Time Nick Message 00:05 dcook wb tcohen 00:06 tcohen bye dcook! 00:13 dcook Didn't realize you were going. Bye! 00:16 dcook facets? 00:16 wahanui facets are drawn from the records in the search results 00:16 dcook facets? 00:16 wahanui facets are drawn from the records in the search results 00:16 dcook facets is also http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11232 00:16 huginn 04Bug 11232: new feature, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Retrieve facets from Zebra 00:16 dcook facets? 00:16 wahanui facets is probably http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11232 00:16 huginn 04Bug 11232: new feature, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Retrieve facets from Zebra 00:16 dcook Kewl 00:17 WaylonR hmm 00:17 WaylonR forget facets 00:17 wahanui WaylonR: I forgot facets 00:18 WaylonR facets are drawn from the records in the search results and are being worked on in bug 11232: http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11232 00:18 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11232 new feature, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Retrieve facets from Zebra 00:18 huginn 04Bug 11232: new feature, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Retrieve facets from Zebra 00:18 WaylonR facets? 00:18 wahanui facets are drawn from the records in the search results and are being worked on in bug 11232: http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11232 00:18 huginn 04Bug 11232: new feature, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Retrieve facets from Zebra 00:18 WaylonR heheh 00:18 WaylonR Power of the bots. 00:46 WaylonR PKI? 00:46 WaylonR PKIAuth? 00:47 WaylonR ahhh 00:47 WaylonR PKIAuth via SSL certificate? 00:59 mtompset Greetings, #koha. 00:59 eythian WaylonR: yes 01:02 tcohen hi mtompset 01:02 WaylonR hiya mtompset 01:02 WaylonR bug 9055 01:02 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9055 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, wrobertson1981, Patch doesn't apply , Mandumah.com's multiple branch search, multiple branch security mod 01:02 WaylonR awaiting your testing. 01:03 mtompset Greetings, tcohen. Yes, I too am glad that I think we've ironed out the silent warnings from C4/Auth.pm. Just waiting for someone to sign off all the patches. :) 01:03 tcohen which need signing? 01:07 mtompset the last two. 01:07 wahanui the last two are the error messages. 01:07 mtompset both mine and papa's. 01:08 mtompset Sorry, WaylonR. I got distracted by other things. I'll try to get to it this week. 01:08 WaylonR cool. 01:12 eythian http://i.imgur.com/gEFY3dE.png <-- mtompset, we have papa's patches applied here, it's made quite a difference. 01:12 eythian (that's accesses and errors from our koha logs.) 01:13 tcohen what do u use for that graphics? 01:13 mtompset Let me guess, you applied it around 16:00? ;) 01:14 eythian mtompset: I think a little after that on the Friday, yeah 01:14 tcohen what tool is that eythian? 01:14 eythian tcohen: it's a logging thing Catalyst is building internally. 01:15 tcohen ok, looks reallynice :-D 01:15 mtompset eythian: Did that include everything on 11077? 01:15 eythian you haven't seen half of it :) it's full of tables and charts and things giving all sorts of information. 01:16 eythian mtompset: no, just the ccode one I think, maybe one or two other things, but they were put in earlier. 01:16 mtompset tcohen: eythian pointed me to a pretty picture the other day. 01:16 mtompset Oh wait... papa works for the same company as you do, eythian? 01:16 eythian yeah 01:17 mtompset shoot... you can't sign his patch off. :( 01:17 eythian nope 01:18 eythian http://ubuntuone.com/2pr7mZNPOGou5um3i8l4WI <-- tcohen 01:22 WaylonR huh.... DBD::mysql::db do failed: Error on rename of './kohadbdev/patronimage' to './kohadbdev/#sql2-65bc-c5f7f' (errno: 152) at the bug 10636 in updatedatabase.pl 01:22 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10636 normal, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Pushed to Master , patronimage should have borrowernumber as PK, not cardnumber 01:40 papa he can, but he does not like my code 01:41 mtompset Shoot... I just discovered another lack of addendum in my patch on 11077. :( 01:42 dcook gmcharlt++ 01:42 dcook great summary emails for kohacon 01:43 dcook especially the hackfest 01:50 dcook eythian++ 01:53 wizzyrea is there something special you have to do to make OpacHiddenItems work? 01:53 mtompset No, just enter it in YAML format. 01:54 wizzyrea well I did that (yes, the syntax is correct), and it's not working. 01:54 dcook wizzyrea: That's odd. 01:54 mtompset How so? 01:54 mtompset Are you confusing OpacSuppression with OpacHiddenItems? 01:54 wizzyrea i do a search for a known withdrawn item, with a withdrawn rule in, and it shows up 01:54 wizzyrea no I am not. 01:55 mtompset in opac? 01:55 wizzyrea yes. 01:55 dcook Can you cover withdrawn items with that syspref? 01:55 wizzyrea it is in the example. 01:55 mtompset Hmmm.... 01:55 dcook Hmm 01:55 dcook Wasn't withdrawn misspelled at one point? 01:55 dcook As withdrwn 01:56 dcook Or something like that 01:56 wizzyrea this is previous to that fix. 01:56 wizzyrea wthdrawn 01:56 wahanui wthdrawn is that right? 01:56 dcook Hmm, I've just used that syspref with item type before and it worked as expected 01:56 dcook Sorry :/ 01:57 wizzyrea now there is only one item on this particular record, and it's withdrawn, it is the only bib that comes back for this search 01:57 wizzyrea so we're not going through the results. 01:58 dcook Mmm 01:58 dcook That makes (a kind of) sense 01:58 dcook So you're searching for that record and it's taking you directly to the bib 01:58 dcook And not showing the item at the bottom? 02:00 wizzyrea no it is showing the item. 02:01 dcook Hmm, bizarre 02:02 wizzyrea but yes, it's taking me straight to the bib. 02:02 wizzyrea but, if there's nothing special requred to make it work, I will figure out why it's not working ;) 02:02 dcook Yeah, I was going to say, without debugging, I have no idea. Shouldn't be anything special required to make it work. 02:02 dcook Have you tried it with other examples? 02:03 dcook I like using "itype: [ILL-BOOK]" 02:08 wizzyrea eythian++ for spotting the problem on his fancy new log thingie. 02:08 eythian :) 02:08 wizzyrea it gets mad if you only have one entry in there. 02:09 wizzyrea put it in twice and it works just fine. 02:09 mtompset put what in twice? 02:09 wizzyrea > wthdrawn: [1] 02:10 wizzyrea > wthdrawn: [1] 02:10 wizzyrea for example 02:10 dcook Hmm, I just have a oneline entry 02:11 wizzyrea something to do with wthdrawn? idk. 02:11 dcook I'll take a look :) 02:11 wizzyrea this is 3.12 02:11 dcook I'll take less of a look ;) 02:11 wizzyrea is ok I'll try to poke at it. 02:12 mtompset Oh no... try leaving a BLANK line. 02:12 mtompset I think it is a blank line parsing issue. 02:12 wizzyrea mmm I tried that. 02:12 mtompset wthdrawn: [1]\n\n? 02:13 dcook I seem to remember reading that the YAML processor likes at least a few newlines 02:13 wizzyrea I didn't try it with two \n's 02:13 dcook The place I was looking at it in Koha appended the new lines though 02:13 wizzyrea yea there was a patch for that. 02:13 wizzyrea this one may not have it 02:14 wizzyrea nope, that doesn't work 02:15 wizzyrea but a newline in the syspref box does. 02:15 mtompset Are you testing one of my OpacHiddenItem's patches? 02:15 wizzyrea no. 02:16 wizzyrea and newline, in this case, is actually hitting enter a couple of times after your entry. 02:17 dcook ^^makes sense 02:18 dcook But yeah...works fine in 3.8.0 02:18 tcohen papa: did you address the warnings from hitting enter on an empty Checkout form? 02:18 dcook Even without those extra newlines 02:18 wizzyrea yep, it does now - didn't even occur to me that one would have to do that until eythian pointed me to the error message. 02:18 wizzyrea maybe a newer or different yaml parser? idk. 02:19 papa tcohen: not intentionally 02:20 tcohen bye #koha, bedtime :-D 02:20 dcook night tcohen 02:20 dcook Hmm, I think OpacHiddenItems was treated differently in a newer version.. 02:24 wizzyrea could be 02:24 dcook Hmm...instead of being taken straight to the record I seem to get a 404.. 02:25 wizzyrea yea, same 02:25 wizzyrea the net effect is that it's hidden 02:25 dcook I guess so, eh? 02:25 wizzyrea ...perhaps poorly, but the borrower doesn't see it so... 02:25 dcook True true 02:26 * wizzyrea saves concern for that for when the client notes it. 02:26 wizzyrea (if they note it) 02:26 wizzyrea thank you all for your attention :) 02:27 mtompset Hmmm... bug 10584? 02:27 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10584 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, mtompset, Pushed to Master , Hide OPAC bibilo details if all items are hidden. 02:28 mtompset hmm... maybe more of bug 10872 02:28 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10872 minor, P5 - low, ---, mtompset, Pushed to Master , C4::Items GetHiddenItems fix and optimization 02:29 wizzyrea yep I saw those. 02:32 mtompset Because the fix and optimization patch corrects a problem where the YAML code busts in certain contexts causing the hiding to fail completely. 02:32 mtompset I think it was MARCdetail though. 02:42 wizzyrea either way this install won't have those patches ;) 02:46 dcook So wizzyrea...what was the issue again and how did you fix it? 02:47 dcook The code in master looks like it appends those newlines, so I don't imagine that would've been the issue? 02:47 wizzyrea the issue was that it didn't like having only one entry all on one line 02:47 wizzyrea I fixed it by putting in two blank lines after the single entry 02:47 dcook Wait a tic.. 02:47 wizzyrea it might have worked with one. 02:48 wizzyrea i noted that there was a patch to append newlines. 02:48 dcook return () if (! $yaml =~ /\S/ ); 02:48 wizzyrea and that it had been pushed. 02:48 dcook That's not in mine.. 02:48 mtompset that return looks like mine. :) 02:48 mtompset from bug 10872. 02:48 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10872 minor, P5 - low, ---, mtompset, Pushed to Master , C4::Items GetHiddenItems fix and optimization 02:50 mtompset basically, a quick return if the yaml doesn't have printable text. :) 02:50 dcook Yeah 02:50 mtompset that was an optimization. :) 02:51 dcook wizzyrea: I just find it so weird that adding the blank lines did it :S 02:52 wizzyrea yea, I'm not sure. 02:52 dcook Before you had them, were you getting t hat "nable to parse OpacHiddenItems syspref" warning in your logs? 02:52 wizzyrea Code: YAML_PARSE_ERR_SINGLE_LINE was the message 02:53 dcook Filing a bug for it? 02:54 wizzyrea well... I haven't tested it on master. 02:54 wizzyrea only 3.12 02:54 wizzyrea mtompset's stuff may well fix it 02:54 dcook $yaml = "$yaml\n\n"; # YAML is anal on ending \n. Surplus does not hurt 02:54 dcook Should fix it :S 02:54 dcook But it's in 3.8.0 and master 02:54 * mtompset shrugs. 02:55 mtompset I just know that we are particular about using OpacHiddenItems. :) 02:55 mtompset Hence my patches and enhancements. :) 02:55 dcook I suppose if that problem is still around when I upgrade, I'll see it then 02:55 * dcook saunters off to put food in his gut 03:12 mtompset gmcharlt: you here? 03:13 mtompset @later tell gmcharlt Found a minor issue in MARC::File see my comments in bug 11183. 03:13 huginn mtompset: The operation succeeded. 03:15 gmcharlt mtompset: not a bug in MARC::Field, a bug in Koha calling that routine incorrectly and not verifying that it's passing a valid subfield label 03:15 gmcharlt the warning is showing up only because I recently enabled the warnings stricture in MARC::Record and friends 03:16 mtompset You have no explicit error checking in the code, though. Intentionally done for speed? 03:17 gmcharlt nope, legacy -- but note that it would not have been out of line for that method to throw an exception if called incorrectly 03:19 mtompset So, how would I find the code that calls it badly? 03:20 gmcharlt or to put it another way: although I'll surely paper over that warning at some point in a future MARC::Record release, the fact that it shows up signals an error in calling code, that MARC::Field 03:20 mtompset the Koha code that is. 03:21 eythian http://search.cpan.org/~dapm/perl-5.14.4/lib/Carp.pm <-- die using this to get a backtrace 03:22 gmcharlt well, either trawl logs or go through all of the calls to MARC::Field->subfield() and look for ones that can possibly be invoked without a defined subfield code being passed to it 03:30 mtompset C4/Search.pm 1838. :) 03:36 eythian http://eventcinemas.co.nz/movie/The-Hobbit-The-Desolation-Of-Smaug# <-- wizzyrea, tickets available now :) 03:37 wizzyrea oooOOOoooo 03:40 * dcook hopes the second one is better than the first... 03:40 * dcook says only slightly hypercritically 03:41 gmcharlt yes, the paradox of middle-movie-syndrome 03:41 mtompset Okay... this is weird. 03:41 gmcharlt for a film that is part of a set... based on one book 03:41 wizzyrea it's got the barrel bit in it and the elf kingdom 03:41 wizzyrea I think it's gonna rock. 03:41 wizzyrea possibly spiders too, not sure. 03:41 mtompset What if $item->{$code} was never set? Shouldn't $item->{$code} return undef? 03:42 gmcharlt and roll, even, if I remember that chapter correclty ;) 03:42 eythian mtompset: it would, yes 03:50 mtompset Ah... it doesn't nest errors on STDERR. :) 03:51 mtompset print STDERR "blah: " . undef . "\n"; 03:51 eythian it should 03:52 eythian $ perl -e 'use warnings; print STDERR "blah: " . undef . "\n";' 03:52 eythian Use of uninitialized value in concatenation (.) or string at -e line 1. 03:52 eythian blah: 03:53 mtompset inside of C4/Search.pm? 03:53 eythian It shouldn't make a difference. 03:53 * mtompset shrugs. 03:53 eythian so long as use warnings is on. 03:54 mtompset At least I know it is undef, which means a simple if check around the call should silence up that 314 MARC::File warning. 03:54 mtompset and still give the same behaviour. 04:23 dcook frameworks? 04:23 wahanui frameworks are a big topic 04:23 dcook frameworks? 04:23 wahanui frameworks are a big topic 04:24 mtompset advanced visibility options on frameworks. :P 04:25 dcook That's what I'm thinking about at the moment :p 04:25 WaylonR how can i manually set the dbversion of koha? 04:27 Oak Ahoy me hearties 04:28 Oak hello mtompset 04:28 Oak time to sleep for you. 04:28 mtompset Greetings, Oak. 04:28 Oak :) 04:28 mtompset No, just one more patch. :) 04:28 Oak okay one more. 04:28 wahanui one more is better than one less but yeah they should be the same 05:01 dcook visibility options...ugh 05:12 mtompset dcook: Yep. Ugh. :) 05:12 mtompset Oh, and for everyone that was paying attention to Haiyan (Yolanda). The Philippines is getting hit with ANOTHER shortly. 05:12 mtompset http://www.pagasa.dost.gov.ph/wb/tcupdate.shtml 05:13 mtompset Thankfully only signal 1 as compared to signal 5. 05:25 * dcook wonders why "installer-data-mysql-en-marcflavour-marc21-mandatory-marc21_framework_DEFAULT.sql" doesn't seem to insert rows in order 05:25 dcook Or that they are retrieved out of order on a select... 05:26 dcook Mmm the tab column perhaps.. 05:26 dcook for some reason.. 05:28 dcook What the.. 05:28 wahanui it has been said that the is a stop word 05:30 eythian dcook: there is no such thing as order for sql tables 05:30 eythian or for rows in sql tables, more accurately perhaps 05:31 dcook I've heard that said before, but I'm not sure that I've ever understood 05:31 dcook Order by changes the order 05:31 dcook At least the order that is displayed 05:32 eythian yeah, that lets you apply a sort 05:32 eythian but if you don't, there's no favoured ordering. 05:32 dcook It seems that primary key is sometimes used as a favoured ordering 05:32 eythian it might be 05:32 dcook But not always? 05:32 eythian but it's not a given 05:32 dcook I think that's the scenario I'm running into now 05:33 eythian if you delete some rows in the middle of a table, and then insert some rows, they may go into the emptied space. 05:33 dcook I noticed that my framework export wasn't writing out the rows "in order", but then I removed my where clause, ran the query, added the where clause again, and now it does.. 05:33 eythian if you need order, always use order by. If you don't care about order, don't worry about it. 05:34 dcook Right, that's usually what I would do 05:34 eythian It is usually the case that they will come out in the order that they were added in, but not always. 05:34 dcook But I was wondering what the SQL export in the frameworks was doing 05:35 dcook This is certainly a case in point for what you're saying :) 05:37 dcook Hmm, was able to do it again by deleting all the rows and then re-running the SQL file from the installer 05:37 dcook Hmm, then it went away...interesting 05:38 dcook eythian: The only reason it mattered is that I was doing a diff between two frameworks and the order was causing issues 05:39 dcook But I couldn't apply an order by in that case 05:40 dcook But thanks :) 05:44 eythian np :) 05:44 eythian hello cait 05:44 wahanui hello cait are you here? 05:44 mtompset Greetings, cait. :) 05:45 * dcook waves to cait 05:46 cait hello all 05:46 cait :) 06:31 mtompset be rangi? 06:31 wahanui Send a patch! 06:31 mtompset be eythian? 06:31 wahanui Sod it all, let's head to the pub! 06:31 dcook Good advice 06:31 dcook On that note, I'm out 06:31 dcook Nice being back. See everyone later (eventually) 06:31 mtompset Bye, dcook. 06:31 mtompset I'm very overdue for sleep. 06:38 mtompset Have a great day, #koha cait eythian Oak WaylonR and whoever else may be lurking. :) 07:41 * magnuse waves 07:55 marcelr hi #koha 07:58 kf hi #koha 08:01 magnuse kia ora kf and marcelr 08:05 marcelr hi magnuse and kf 08:06 kf hi magnuse and marcelr 08:12 kf BobB++ 08:38 kf good morning ashimema 08:43 ashimema Good morning kf 08:44 ashimema brb 09:03 ashimema Good morning #koha 09:20 magnuse hiya ashimema 09:20 ashimema hello magnuse 09:22 ashimema Yowsers.. I did not expect this: http://www.librarytechnology.org/ltg-displaytext.pl?RC=18587 09:22 kf and here i was hoping that you would know something :) 09:22 kf the press release on their website reads quite different 09:23 kf no mention of koha 09:23 kf [off] http://www.ptfs.com/ptfs-awarded-prime-contract-for-the-u-s-federal-government-ils-next-program3?journal=68 09:24 magnuse wow, that's weird 09:25 magnuse is COTS Digital Library System (DLS) a renaming of their fork? 09:27 magnuse [off] another version: http://www.liblime.com/u-s-federal-government-awards-multi-million-dollar-multi-year-contract-to-liblime-and-ptfs-for-koha?a=1&c=1254 09:31 kf i guess it's other products and koha only being a small part 09:31 magnuse yeah, probably 10:25 ashimema hey magnuse.. do you understand how koha-shell works.. (could you point me to some docs for it?) 10:28 magnuse ashimema: hm, i don't think there are a lot of docs, apart from the source and the man page 10:28 magnuse have you looked at the man page? 10:28 ashimema just asked my colleagues about the PTFS stuff.. it was news to them too.. But.. they do understand what DLS is (as Inc were trying to sell it to us..) 10:29 ashimema DLS is just a pretty interface atop ArchivalWare and Koha. 10:30 magnuse s/koha/their fork of koha/ i presume... 10:31 ashimema sorry.. yeah.. their fork. 10:32 ashimema The stuff atop it is very new.. this'll be the first user fomr the sounds. 10:32 ashimema anywho.. I thought they were slowing down their koha efforts.. show what I know. :( 10:32 ashimema aha.. the man page has a bit mroe detail. 10:33 ashimema aha.. found what I was doing wrong... I was using 'koha_dev' instead of 'dev' as the instance.. 10:33 ashimema silly me. 10:53 magnuse hehe, yeah that would mess things up 12:35 kf jcamins: around? 13:21 tcohen morning #koha 13:28 kf hi tcohen 13:31 tcohen hi kf 13:31 kf tcohen: hwen is the big day? or was it already? 13:31 tcohen Nov 24th 13:31 tcohen :-D 13:32 kf :) 13:32 kf going on honeymoon too? 13:33 tcohen europe, on march 13:33 kf nice! 13:33 kf where are you going in europe? 13:33 kf france? ;) 13:34 tcohen spain, france, england, maybe germany 13:34 tcohen after the wedding we will make our desicion 13:35 kf cool :) 13:36 tcohen we are too anxious right now :-D 13:51 tcohen @later tell mtompset are you sure bug 10876 depends on bug 10584? 13:51 huginn tcohen: The operation succeeded. 14:03 magnuse tcohen: norway is nice too! ;-) (bloody expensive, though...) 14:04 tcohen i'm considering Norway too 14:04 tcohen Petter invited me to visit 14:09 magnuse w00t! 14:09 magnuse when will the trip be? 14:09 tcohen march 14:09 magnuse nice 14:09 jenkins_koha Starting build #114 for job Koha_3.12.x (previous build: SUCCESS) 14:10 * magnuse recommends northern norway 14:10 magnuse it will be late winter in march, but that can be nice too :-) 14:10 * magnuse wanders off 14:10 tcohen Aurora :D 14:13 tcohen @later tell rangi: jenkins seems to still want to read t/ILSDI_Services.t, which was moved to db_dependet (sort of) 14:13 huginn tcohen: The operation succeeded. 14:31 oleonard Hi #koha 14:45 kivilahtio hi! Do you have a working overdue notifications print service? 14:45 kivilahtio we need to send our overdue notifications to our patrons twice a week. 14:45 kf libraries here use mostly email nos 14:45 kf now 14:45 kf and print themselves 14:45 kf daily 14:46 mtompset Greetings, #koha. 14:46 kivilahtio we merge all the notifications for one patron to one letter which is printed 14:46 kivilahtio hi mtompset 14:46 kivilahtio kf: Just curious if anyone has such a service available 14:46 kf yeah, just telling you how it works here - to explain why we have not 14:47 kivilahtio kf: Ok, I'll start working on a print service interface 14:47 mtompset tcohen: You here? 14:47 kivilahtio or maybe Joubu knows something about that? 14:47 oleonard wtf, Bug 11233 14:47 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11233 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , testing development 14:50 * kf hands oleonard the cookie jar 14:50 kivilahtio bribery! 14:50 kf you can have one too ;) 14:50 kivilahtio is it a CGICOOKIE? 14:50 kivilahtio I already have quite a few :) 14:51 kf it's just a chocolate chip peanut butter coconot oatmeal cookie :P 14:51 mtompset ^not^nut^ ;) 14:51 kivilahtio peanut butter coconut 14:51 kivilahtio sounds wicked 14:53 jcamins kf: you added peanut butter to the coconut oatmeal chocolate chip cookie? 14:53 jcamins Interesting. 14:53 wahanui interesting is sometimes good and sometimes bad 14:53 kf ... 14:54 * jcamins thinks it would be good in this situation. 14:54 jcamins But it's an unusual addition. 14:54 tcohen hi mtompset 14:54 oleonard The nice thing about virtual cookies is that you can add anything you want and the recipe still works for you 14:56 mtompset Oops... looking further, tcohen. There was an issue with YAML not being loaded properly. 14:57 mtompset 10872 fixes that for MARCdetail. 14:57 mtompset That's why I put the depends. 14:57 mtompset Because 10584 was sort of umbrella-ish. 14:57 tcohen yes, but 10584 changes the current behaviour 14:59 mtompset Yes, you could data mine before. 15:00 * druthb waves to mtompset and jcamins and oleonard and tcohen and kf, and then passes out again. 15:01 tcohen hi druthb! 15:03 tcohen gmcharlt: around? 15:13 ashimema damn you kf.. you've made me crave a cookie now. 15:16 kf *muahahaha* 15:18 jcamins I have a container full of chocolate-white chocolate chip cookies. 15:21 jcamins oleonard: why are you here? Isn't it a holiday? 15:21 oleonard Instead of having today off we have the day after Thanksgiving off. 15:22 jcamins Ooh, that's a lot more useful. 15:23 oleonard In order to mimic the denial of service usually associated with being closed we're having an impromptu failure of OverDrive service authentication :| 15:23 oleonard And waiting for a response on a support ticket from those guys is interesting on a national holiday. 15:42 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.12.x build #114: SUCCESS in 1 hr 32 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.12.x/114/ 15:42 jenkins_koha * Mark Tompsett: Bug 10872 - C4::Items GetHiddenItems fix and optimization 15:42 jenkins_koha * Tomas Cohen Arazi: Bug 10872: UT for GetHiddenItemnumbers and POD fix 15:42 jenkins_koha * Kyle M Hall: Bug 10731 - IntranetSlipPrinterJS is not working for hold slips [v3.10/v3.12] 15:42 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10872 minor, P5 - low, ---, mtompset, Pushed to Stable , C4::Items GetHiddenItems fix and optimization 15:42 jenkins_koha * Marcel de Rooy: Bug 10376: fix ability to print cart from IE9 & 10 15:42 jenkins_koha * David Roberts: Bug 10894: Add ID to main address in member entry form 15:42 jenkins_koha * Katrin Fischer: Bug 10871: Make confirmation message for deleting news translatable 15:42 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10731 minor, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Pushed to Stable , IntranetSlipPrinterJS is not working for hold slips 15:42 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10376 normal, P5 - low, ---, m.de.rooy, Pushed to Stable , Printing cart does not work under IE9 15:42 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10894 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, colin.campbell, Pushed to Stable , ID required for mainaddress fieldset in create new patron 15:42 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10871 trivial, P5 - low, ---, katrin.fischer, Pushed to Stable , Confirmation message for deleting news entries is not translatable 16:20 slef hi all 16:20 druthb hi slef. :) 16:23 slef Is biblibre's 2011 unilim template/css still the latest mobile browser stuff for koha? 16:24 oleonard The latest mobile browser stuff for Koha is the new Bootstrap theme 16:24 slef ccsr? 16:24 wahanui rumour has it ccsr is not behaving 16:25 nengard ha 16:26 kf slef: bootstrap is the latest and greatest :) 16:26 kf oleonard++ 16:26 slef there's actually a theme called "bootstrap" now? 16:26 slef I've been away from the front-end for a while 16:26 kf it will be in 3.14 16:27 kf responsive opac? 16:27 kf bootstrap opac? 16:27 kf bootstrap? 16:27 wahanui an up to date demo of the Bootstrap OPAC can be found at http://responsive.mykoha.co.nz - it's tracking from oleonard's branch bootstrap-opac on gitorious. Bug reports should be filed on bug 10309. 16:27 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10309 new feature, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , New OPAC theme based on Bootstrap 16:27 oleonard I wonder if that demo is still tracking my repo? If it is then it's out of date now :( 16:28 kf oleonard: nothing that can't be fixed? :) and also still good for a first impression 16:30 slef looks a lot better than the last time I saw it 16:30 slef a few text overflows but nothing fatal 16:35 mtompset Greetings, druthb. I was wearing my chauffeur hat. 16:46 mtompset gmcharlt++ # for appropriately thanking people for their patches. :) 16:55 mtompset tcohen++ # for copying Galen's good example. :) 17:59 tcohen bye #koha 18:47 cait hi 18:47 druthb cait! 18:49 mtompset Greetings, cait. :) 18:57 mtompset okay, question. 18:57 wahanui question is, like, "What is the meaning of life, the universe and everything?" 18:57 mtompset Why is the use_ok() inside of a BEGIN{ }, in a lot of the tests? 18:57 mtompset Does it have to be? 19:00 jcamins Yes. 19:00 jcamins Because use happens at compile time. 19:09 * mtompset starts work on improving test coverage for t/NewsChannels.t 19:49 mtompset Sorry, slef. 19:51 slef heh no problem mtompset... I just got confused while catching up 19:52 mtompset Consider I don't use a threaded email reader (is Windows Live Mail even capable?!) I didn't see the problem, but I know it exists. 19:52 mtompset ^Consider^Considering^ 19:53 slef mtompset: see http://koha.1045719.n5.nabble.com/Summary-of-Open-session-at-KohaCon13-with-a-focus-on-Funding-the-Future-of-Koha-tp5777436.html 19:54 slef mtompset: didn't you realise that developers didn't put multiple buttons to write emails just for the fun of it? ;-) Developers love metadata too baby yeah 19:55 mtompset Ah... Yucky. 19:56 mtompset Oh good... on a positive note, I have the listed in my address list, so I should be able to avoid this in the future. 20:10 jcamins gmcharlt: around? 20:10 gmcharlt jcamins: on my way out the door for a couple hours 20:11 jcamins Okay. Ping me next time you're around? 20:11 jcamins (today, tomorrow, whenever) 20:27 rangi morning 20:28 oleonard Hi rangi 20:33 mtompset Greetings, rangi oleonard 20:39 mrx Hi All, I'm just experimenting a simple query to dig an isbn 9781927147986 20:39 mrx Below query work just fine in reporting module of koha but when I try to use same through script it is returning null(0E0), any ideas? 20:39 mrx SELECT biblionumber FROM biblioitems where isbn=9781927147986 20:39 mrx my $context = C4::Context->new(); 20:39 mrx my $dbh = $context->dbh(); 20:39 mrx my $query = "SELECT biblionumber FROM biblioitems where isbn=9781927147986"; 20:39 mrx my $sth = $dbh->prepare($query); 20:39 mrx my $rc = $sth->execute(); 20:39 mtompset is ISBN a varchar? Where's the single quotes? 20:41 rangi or better yet 20:42 rangi use placeholders 20:42 rangi and let dbi do it for you 20:42 rangi where isbn=? 20:42 rangi $sth->execute(9781927147986); 20:42 rangi then if it needs '' dbi will do it 21:11 mrx actually tried both ways with and without single quotes, but it a bit strange still no results 21:29 mrx $sth->excute(9781927147986); still returining nada... 21:29 oleonard Bye #koha 21:44 mtj mrx, after your execute - do you actually fetch the result? 21:47 mrx Yeap, using $sth->fetchrow_hashref() 21:48 mtj hmm, weird... 21:48 wahanui weird is normal after a while :) 21:48 mtj when i get stuck with dbi, i turn the tracing on 21:49 mtj DBI->trace(3); etc... 21:49 mtj you might be connecting to the wrong database, and not realising 21:50 mtj http://search.cpan.org/~timb/DBI-1.630/DBI.pm#DBI_TRACE 21:52 mrx I think database is ok because interestingly enough, I'm scanning a list of isbns and few records are returning just fine but this one and few others as just not coming up. Although reporting module is picking them up. Let me look into tracing, it might help. 21:53 eythian trailing spaces or something like that? 21:55 mtj yeah, sql sounds fine - its prolly the record thats the problem 21:56 mrx nope, query is exactly as I wrote. Also used place holders, no spaces. Could it be some kind of indexing issue in my instance of koha, shouldn't be because report module is picking it as it is like the same record is popping up with same query there. Sorry, unable to get my head around it and just ranting, I guess. Any help is much appreciated, thx 21:56 ashimema anyone here understand the finer points of matching with bulkmarkimport? 21:57 jcamins ashimema: I know that it never worked for me. 21:58 cait unrelated, but an interesting read about matching 21:58 cait http://bywatersolutions.com/2013/07/23/match-points-in-koha/ 21:59 ashimema Hmmm... 22:00 ashimema Well, I've added my index and it appears to be searching.. although not exactly as I expected.. 22:00 ashimema but I can't get the bulkmarcimport to work with it 22:01 jcamins ashimema: yeah, I just refuse to support bulkmarcimport. 22:01 ashimema care to give me a fly by rundown on how to use your usual import scripts indtead cait? I still havent had a chance to get my head around them 22:02 ashimema what do you use instead of bulkmarkimport then Jared? 22:02 cait ashimema: normally i don't do the importing, but i have run them successfully 22:02 cait you need to add your matching rules to the gui first, then you use the number it got there for the command line job 22:03 ashimema oh.. I see 22:03 cait our rule is normally number 3 - matching on 001, but the article shows you can do more complicated things 22:03 jcamins ashimema: I use stage-file and commit-file. 22:03 ashimema same as cait then.. 22:03 ashimema humm.. am I the only one still using bulkmarcimport.. 22:04 jcamins Hi Martin! 22:04 eythian I've had little luck with the matching in bulkmarcimport, it seemed to work mostly, but be very fragile. I have a deduplication script I use to tidy things up after. I do use it for imports though. 22:04 mtj mrx, if you're really curious -- you can always enable dbi tracing around the reporting code, and see what SQL is allowing the reporting module to succeed, too 22:06 ashimema haha.. you suddenly got who I am then jcamins ;) 22:06 jcamins ashimema: yeah, I asked cait. 22:06 cait :P 22:06 ashimema :) 22:06 cait i also told him to be nice... but not sure if that will work 22:06 jcamins I figured I must've met you since you used my name. 22:06 mtj mrx, … and if you compare the 2 trace files, you'll definitely get to the bottom of your mystery :) 22:07 mrx mtj, yea working on tracing at the moment. Fingers, toes everything crossed 22:07 bag :) 22:07 ashimema yeah.. your name slipped instead of your nick.. 22:07 * jcamins responds to both. 22:07 ashimema eythian, is this the kind of syntax you used?.. ~/kohaclone/misc/migration_tools/bulkmarcimport.pl -t -b -match NFER-number,035a -v -file Results/bibl.mrc -v >Logs/load_bibl_fix.log 22:07 ashimema that's good to know.. 22:08 eythian jcamins: I note that a whois would also tell you :) 22:08 jcamins Well, I respond to four of the five options from [name,nick] 22:08 jcamins eythian: interesting. 22:08 wahanui interesting is sometimes good and sometimes bad 22:08 jcamins Does whois have anything about me? 22:08 eythian ashimema: it's along those lines, yeah. Part of the problem I had was that I was matching on ISBN and the whole import would abort if it saw a record without one. 22:08 eythian it has your name, yes 22:09 jcamins Cool. 22:09 jcamins I don't remember configuring that to work. 22:09 eythian but matching by ISBN is always unreliable anyway, causes more problems than it solves. 22:10 cait night :) 22:10 eythian later cait 22:13 ashimema I was using direct matching upon a number from their old system (i'm in the habit of dumping old uid's in the 035).. I had to re-add the 035a index to zebra.. which worked.. but there will be a number of new records with no 035.. and that should be fine.. 22:14 ashimema hmm 22:14 * dcook waves to ashimema 22:15 ashimema I just get: unable to search the database for duplicates : No query entered at /home/koha/kohaclone/misc/migration_tools/bulkmarcimport.pl line 220, <GEN13> line 1506. 22:15 ashimema so frustrating. 22:15 eythian I used to put them in 024a, but now I just find somewhere in 998 22:15 ashimema maybe I'll try those other import scripts jcamins and cait recommend 22:15 ashimema 998 is actually a pretty nice place.. I like that idea.. doesn't polute the records as much 22:16 ashimema hey dcook :) 22:16 pianohacker hey dcook 22:16 dcook hey guys :) 22:17 ashimema pianohacker.. hows that shibboleth stuff coming.. I was thinking of writting a followup somtime in the next couple of weeks to do the update/replicate procedures.. but was holding off incase you were going places with it? 22:18 pianohacker ashimema: It's going well, have the autocreate in place (rebased against 3.12.06) on my github 22:18 ashimema awesome.. 22:18 wahanui That'll be $1 for the awesome jar, ashimema 22:18 pianohacker ashimema: https://github.com/pianohacker/koha/tree/shibboleth-v3.12.06 22:19 Koha_rookie Hi, anyone that can help with some issues in language settings? Koha v3.12.01, on Mint / Sql and perl installed 22:20 ashimema Is it based upon matthias's work?.. be good to get it submitted as dependant upon that initial foray rather than in amongst it.. I'm a big fan of breaking these things into smaller chunks for the whole sign-off/qa routine. 22:20 ashimema what the problem Koha_rookie.. i may or may not be able to shed some light 22:21 Koha_rookie any help is appreciated ;) 22:23 Koha_rookie here is the symptom, I´ve entered in the administration/preferences/Global settings and I tried to check "Español" as a default language (currently is English) but once I did that I receive "Internal server error"....very generic error 22:23 pianohacker ashimema: I'm in the process of doing just that for my own bugs, yeah... And yes, it is based on his stuff, just rebased. 22:25 ashimema Koha_rookie: OK, lets go back a couple of steps.. what version of koha are we talking about and how did you install it. Packages? 22:25 ashimema excellent.. I'm looking after that bug now.. trying to keep it rebased in the hopes someone will come along and test it.. fixed a bug regardin reverseDNS too.. I think. 22:26 Koha_rookie We followed the tutorial, v3.12.01 22:26 jcamins What tutorial? 22:27 ashimema point us at the tutorial Koha_rookie.. unfortunately there are now an abundance of tutorials for various versions and methods.. many of which are now a bad idea (i'm working on getting rid of some on the wiki some time soon) 22:29 Koha_rookie let me find it 22:30 Koha_rookie wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Koha_on_ubuntu_-_tarball 22:31 jcamins So you installed a while ago? 22:31 Koha_rookie not really, a couple of months ago 22:31 jcamins That's what I meant. 22:32 jcamins Just making I understood why you had v3.12.01 instead of v3.12.06. 22:32 jcamins Are you able to switch languages when it's not the default? 22:33 Koha_rookie Nope, I just see two checkboxs in the I18N/L10N, English (checked) and Spanish (unchecked) 22:34 ashimema pianohacker: that's looking like some great work there.. can't wait to test it once you submit it :) It took me so long to get over that fist hurdle of getting a connection working, that my time dried up for the extra development. 22:35 jcamins Koha_rookie: and when you check Spanish and click Save, you get the error? 22:35 pianohacker ashimema++ 22:35 Koha_rookie jcamins: exactly 22:35 pianohacker the pointer to shibboleth was a huge boon; it's a big overcomplicated pain in the ass, but still easier than doing it in perl 22:35 jcamins This is language or opaclanguage you're trying to change? 22:36 Koha_rookie both of it 22:37 jcamins Did you try changing them separately? 22:37 Koha_rookie moreover, we are trying to change any parameters and it raise the same error.... 22:37 jcamins Oh. 22:37 jcamins In that case it has nothing to do with the translations. 22:37 ashimema OH.. that's a endemic of more serious problems. 22:38 * ashimema scratch head 22:38 eythian use the logs, luke :) 22:38 jcamins Or, it may have something to do with translations, but that pref isn't at fault. 22:38 jcamins You'll need to check your web server logs. 22:38 Koha_rookie yep...I guess so, we are looking the logs... 22:40 Koha_rookie and the koha logs? We checked that one (koha-error_log) and we have the following error "Premature end of scripts header: systempreferences" 22:42 jcamins Someone else gets to tell that person that The koha-community.org website is for the Koha project. 22:42 rangi heh 22:42 jcamins Koha_rookie: were you ever able to change system preferences? 22:43 Koha_rookie nope, everytime we tried we get the same error 22:44 rangi jcamins: im doing so off list 22:46 ashimema ack.. now what could be wrong with my marc records for the stage marc import to say they're bad :( 22:46 jcamins Koha_rookie: maybe your missing some dependencies? 22:46 rangi emailed 22:46 jcamins *you're 22:46 wizzyrea rangi++ 22:47 jcamins What should we have for dinner? 22:47 dcook ashimema: I think there is a script that can check that out for you 22:47 ashimema mm. somewhere maybe :s 22:47 Koha_rookie is it recommendable to update my version to 3.12.06 and start from scratch? I didn any data conversion 22:47 * dcook has a little look 22:48 ashimema bulkmarcimport wouldn't have complained.. that mark file has been imported with minimal changes before ;) 22:48 dcook MARC21_parse_test.pl, I think 22:48 ashimema Koha_rookie.. if your will to start again, then the prefered install method these days is to use packages. 22:49 ashimema they're muhc more of a 'Just Works' approach. 22:49 ashimema cheer dcook 22:49 Koha_rookie ok, great, do you have the latest wiki for the latest version? 22:49 wizzyrea packages? 22:49 wahanui packages is at http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Debian 22:50 dcook ashimema: cronjobs/MARC21_parse_test.pl. I'm not sure when it was introduced but it's floating around in master 22:51 Koha_rookie I´d really appreciate your help ashimena and wahanui I´ll try with those packages 22:52 ashimema wahanui is a bot Koha_rookie.. but yeah... I'll be about for a bit.. can't go to bed until this import works :( 22:52 ashimema yeah.. I've found it.. looks like it acts upon records already in the DB though.. my import fails before I get that far 22:53 Koha_rookie thanks a lot, I hope I will share my experience, Have a good import ;) 22:53 peggy What is a reasonable expectation for the amount of time it should take between entering a barcode and having Koha confirm the checkin? 22:54 ashimema anyone happen to know what throws : 'records not staged because of MARC error' It seemed to come up awefully quick to have actually checked much 22:54 wizzyrea peggy - that depends a lot on what the connection to the server is like, what the current load is on the system, and lots of factors 22:55 peggy Right. My question is how good can it be? 22:55 wizzyrea but usually you would expect something within 1-10 seconds 22:55 wizzyrea over that and something, somewhere, is funny. 22:55 dcook ashimema: Ah, right. Dinger. Hmm. I don't think I've encountered that error myself. 22:55 ashimema yeah.. tis a bit of a bugger 22:55 * wizzyrea guesses from your question that it's taking longer than you think it should 22:56 peggy We are around 2 seconds, I know the delay is not due to network, since I can change a logging preference in half a second 22:57 peggy I would go to a bigger server and/or more memory if that would help. 22:57 dcook ashimema: Are you loading up marcxml or iso marc? 22:57 eythian peggy: it probably would help, but it's hard to quantify by how much. 22:57 wizzyrea ^ 22:58 rangi peggy: also the browser makes a difference, and also how long the css/js is set to be cached by 22:58 rangi have you tried in different browsers, firefox faster than ie 9 or less, chrome faster than firefox is what i would expect 22:58 peggy HOw long the css/js is set to be cahed? 22:58 peggy cached 22:58 ashimema isomarc 22:58 eythian it depends totally on your configuration 22:58 ashimema though it's easy enough to switch to marcxml 22:58 eythian and how you've installed, etc. 22:58 peggy We use firefox, I can try chrome 22:59 wizzyrea what version of firefox? 22:59 dcook ashimema: I was hoping you were going to say marcxml, because I think the bulk import only handles iso marc :/ 22:59 eythian chrome and firefox are more or less the same speed these days 22:59 peggy Current version 22:59 wahanui Current version is probably 3.2.5 22:59 eythian wahanui: forget current version 22:59 wahanui eythian: I forgot current version 22:59 pianohacker well that's probably not right 23:00 dcook ashimema: Is it giving you a number? Like '42 records not staged because of MARC error'? 23:01 ashimema hmm.. interesting.. looks like the first file was actually a gziped isomarc.. oops. 23:01 dcook That could do it 23:01 ashimema but.. that gave: 1903 in file, 1903 failed due to MARC error 23:02 ashimema unzipping it give 1 and 1.. interesting.. 23:05 dcook Looks like it throws an error only if it is a MARC::Record object with no fields 23:05 rangi http://blogs.perl.org/users/jeff_thalhammer1/2013/11/announcing-perl-critic-1121-with-cert-themes.html 23:06 dcook Looks like MarcToUTF8Record returns an empty object if it can't parse the record 23:06 ashimema cheers dcook.. I'm gin over my marc file again now. 23:07 dcook gin? 23:09 jcamins ashimema: gin is only 40% alcohol. MARC requires more. 23:09 ashimema :) 23:09 dcook But so tasty... 23:09 ashimema hmm.. it really doesn't like my marc file.. 23:10 jcamins dcook: tasty enough, but not tasty enough to offset the MARC. 23:11 dcook jcamins: true true 23:12 * ashimema heads downstairs to grab a large scotch 23:12 dcook ashimema: After that, I'd probably throw in a billion warns into ImportBatch.pm and Charset.pm 23:13 ashimema glad to see someone else resorts to a crap load of warns on ocassions. 23:13 dcook hehe 23:14 jcamins ashimema: that's the ticket. 190 proof. 23:15 wizzyrea no su after 2 23:15 dcook hehe 23:15 jcamins wizzyrea: hehe. 23:17 * ashimema sets 'alias su='ECHO Noooooo!!!' 23:19 dcook Mmm double-encoded ampersands...that's fun... 23:20 pianohacker &amp; ? 23:20 dcook yarp 23:20 dcook The browser handles it just find but my script doesn't.. 23:26 dcook Interesting...we encode ampersands at the bib-level but not at the item-level