Time Nick Message 00:00 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 9218: fix intranet cart email for non english templates <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=c4c5496ec656ee4745587b3cea239cc849d2c09a> 00:10 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 9374: (follow-up) add FIXME suggesting that use of a regexp is not the long-term... <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=8ae61b6a2a6b2c6e27f33d1d32e1849265782530> / Bug 9374: The color should manage all zero format. <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=c523b56bcf0eccb2feb342fe962e590d74baa749> / Bug 9374: Only 0.00 prices must have class error in basket.tt <http:// 00:10 wahanui Hmm. No matches for that, huginn. 00:30 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 10720: fix issue that prevented use of HTML tags in overdue notices <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=394be84dcd65a4569d0467bc12b99dbd6341fc43> / Bug 7684: (follow-up) fix UTF-8 encoding problems in CSV export <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=9abfb7a7645388b159bfb0a249d98f9fe29cde1f> / Bug 7684: (follow-up) use datatables.inc <http://git.koha-community.org/g 00:31 * wizzyrea just noticed the forward/back in the intranet. 00:31 wizzyrea good work! 00:32 mtompset forward/back? 00:39 jenkins_koha Project master_maria build #205: STILL UNSTABLE in 48 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/master_maria/205/ 00:39 jenkins_koha * Nicole C. Engard: Bug 10671: Update Cataloging Help 00:39 jenkins_koha * Nicole C. Engard: Bug 10671: Update Serials Help 00:39 jenkins_koha * Nicole C. Engard: Bug 10671: Update Tools Help Files 00:39 jenkins_koha * Nicole C. Engard: Bug 10671: Update Admin Help Files 00:39 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10671 normal, P5 - low, ---, nengard, ASSIGNED , Koha 3.14 Help Files Update 00:39 jenkins_koha * Nicole C. Engard: Bug 10671: Update patron help files 00:39 jenkins_koha * Nicole C. Engard: Bug 10671: Update Acq Help Files 00:39 jenkins_koha * Nicole C. Engard: Bug 10671: Update patron help files [ FOLLOW-UP ] 00:39 jenkins_koha * Colin Campbell: Bug 11054: Specify UTF-8 encoding when creating a child record 00:39 jenkins_koha * Liz Rea: Bug 10776: fix awkward wording in subscription notification screen 00:39 jenkins_koha * Jonathan Druart: Bug 8307: Set a value for subfields when receiving 00:39 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11054 normal, P5 - low, ---, colin.campbell, Pushed to Master , Creating a child record has problems with accented Latin characters 00:39 jenkins_koha * Marcel de Rooy: Bug 8307: QA Followup for finishreceive.pl 00:39 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: Bug 9044: (follow-up) fix merge conflict typo that broke this script 00:39 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10776 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Subscription notification screen has awkward wording 00:39 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: Bug 8307: DBrev 3.13.00.041 00:39 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8307 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , Set a value for items when receiving 00:39 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9044 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, julian.maurice, Pushed to Master , Allow to select items on catalogue/detail.pl and trigger actions 00:39 jcamins wizzyrea: thanks! 00:39 jenkins_koha Starting build #206 for job master_maria (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #174 9 days 18 hr ago) 00:40 wizzyrea jcamins that was your one? 00:40 wizzyrea I like it :) 00:40 wizzyrea there's a lot to like in pi 00:40 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 11033: Make Save button and Cancel link always visible on basketgroup page <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=eca16da01f2a21dce351ac736e54092972c97f65> 00:45 jcamins wizzyrea: yep. 00:45 talljoy i like pie 00:46 talljoy apple 00:46 talljoy cherry 00:46 talljoy shoofly 00:46 Jwellner pumpkin is coming up :) 00:46 talljoy mmmm..... 00:46 wahanui hmmm... mmmm is right :) 00:46 talljoy i'm really hungry, i guess you can tell 00:46 jcamins talljoy: we have some sweet potato pie in the freezer. 00:47 Jwellner making some spanish rice with beans and veggies right now... 00:47 Jwellner Oooo... sweet potato pie... nom 00:47 talljoy i'd like to go to dinner, but i fear mowing down innocent trick-o-treators in the street 00:47 talljoy sweet potato anything! 00:47 Jwellner Drive faster :) 00:47 talljoy fries, baked, souffle, 00:47 talljoy faster, heh 00:47 talljoy i really want sushi and a martini 00:47 Jwellner sounds good too 00:48 * wizzyrea had perhaps too much tempura for lunch #urp 00:48 talljoy lol 00:48 talljoy tempura before sushi....yiiss.....sounds good. 00:49 Jwellner oh sure... now my machine at work finishes backing up... after 2 days... 00:49 wizzyrea ! 00:49 talljoy that's a lot of data 00:52 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 8307: (follow-up) fix discrepancy in name of the new syspref <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=af4b6c8420bf719b2feb339815a8812e12c32bc1> / Bug 11132: don't clear the results list upon adding a biblio to a list <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=de5d977c499144a39189692e957333620efc73eb> 00:53 Jwellner lots of little files going to a sinology... 00:53 Jwellner synology 00:54 Jwellner RAID wasn't happy about it I guess... 00:55 Jwellner Mavericks didn't like my mail.app having 8 gmail accounts on it.. :) 00:56 talljoy i can barely keep up with 2 emails, let alone 8! 00:56 ashimema anyone here understand the syntax for the bulkmarkimport script when using -match? 00:56 talljoy i don't use the match on bulkmarcimport 00:57 Jwellner a lot of them are reporting accounts for the imaging system, raid card... and after this weekend, Koha :) 00:57 talljoy ashimema: what are you matching on? 00:57 ashimema nor do I usually.. 00:57 ashimema wanting to match 035 subfield a 00:58 ashimema trying to sort out a borked load ;).. why is it people always find a bunch of missing stuff months after the original work.. 00:58 talljoy i know. 00:59 ashimema So.. the syntax I tried was 'bulkmarcimport.pl -t -b -match 035a -v -file Results/bibl.mrc -v >Logs/load_bibl_fix.log' 01:00 ashimema which seems to match the perldoc.. but unfrotunately I just get: Use of uninitialized value $recorddata in pattern match (m//) at /home/koha/kohaclone/misc/migration_tools/bulkmarcimport.pl line 441, 01:00 ashimema from that. 01:00 ashimema hmm 01:00 ashimema have a feeling I'm going to have to resort to the code :% 01:01 talljoy i can't tell precisely what it wants but did you try it without the subfielda? --match 035 01:01 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #1493: SUCCESS in 1 hr 55 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/1493/ 01:01 jenkins_koha * Kyle M Hall: Bug 8015: Add MARC Modifications Templates 01:01 jenkins_koha * Jonathan Druart: Bug 8015: (follow-up) fix copy and move if subfields don't exist. 01:01 jenkins_koha * Kyle M Hall: Bug 8015: (follow-up) move from the Koha to the C4 namespace 01:01 jenkins_koha * Jonathan Druart: Bug 8015: (follow-up) trap exceptions thrown by SetUTF8Flag() 01:01 jenkins_koha * Kyle M Hall: Bug 8015: (follow-up) fix various issues (squashed patch) 01:01 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8015 new feature, P4, ---, kyle.m.hall, Pushed to Master , Add MARC Modifications Templates 01:01 jenkins_koha * Jonathan Druart: Bug 8015: Add unit tests for SimpleMARC and MarcModificationTemplates routines 01:01 jenkins_koha * Kyle M Hall: Bug 8015: (follow-up) add user permissions to all languages 01:01 jenkins_koha * Kyle M Hall: Bug 8015: (follow-up) remove references to C4::Koha::Log 01:01 jenkins_koha * Kyle M Hall: Bug 8015: QA Followup 01:01 jenkins_koha * Kyle M Hall: Bug 8015: QA Followup 2 01:01 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: Bug 8015: DBRev 3.13.00.040 01:01 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: Bug 8015: (follow-up) update DBIx::Class schema classes 01:01 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: Bug 8015: (follow-up) update stage_file.pl 01:01 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: Bug 8015: (follow-up) don't require userenv 01:01 jenkins_koha Starting build #1494 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS) 01:04 ashimema am just about to ;) 01:05 ashimema same error unfortunately.. 01:06 ashimema and now the servers I'm working on seems ot have just slowed to a crawl. 01:06 ashimema right.. think that's a sign it's bedtime. 01:06 ashimema thanks for your thoughts anyways talljoy 01:07 talljoy my reading of the perldoc looks like it wants the indexname,matchpoint so --match 035indexname,035a ?? 01:07 ashimema ahh.. that makes sense.. 01:08 talljoy i always wish they would give specific examples on some of these. 01:08 ashimema now i re-read it that make very good sense 01:08 ashimema now i feel like a muppet.. looks like 'rtfm' only works if you read it right :p 01:09 gmcharlt heh 01:09 Jwellner :) 01:09 gmcharlt as the neural interface to the fine manual is still awaiting signoff... 01:10 ashimema I'm gonna blame my misreading on it being late.. it's late here.. honest. 01:10 talljoy i was just thinking that. 01:11 talljoy it's late here too. 01:11 talljoy of course, time being irrelevant in #koha as someone is always here and it's morning somewhere 01:12 ashimema that is indeed very true.. 01:13 ashimema think I may leave working out what that first param actually needs to be untill the morning.. indexname may make more sense to me on a night sleep ;) 01:14 talljoy true that. 01:14 talljoy i'm headed out for a late dinner. trick or treaters be dammed. i'm hitting the road. 01:15 talljoy lock up the children, i'm heading out. 01:22 ashimema Just in case anyone ever goes through the logs looking for the answer to my question above.. the correct syntax was: bulkmarcimport.pl -t -b -match Local-number,035a -v -file Results/bibl.mrc -v >Logs/load_bibl_fix.log 01:22 ashimema but I had to enable the Local-number index first.. seems to be commented out in zebra config for 3.10.6 01:22 ashimema sure there's a reason.. but I can't remember why.. 01:22 ashimema right.. 01:23 ashimema nighty night #koha 01:28 mtompset @quote add <ashimema> ... looks like 'rtfm' only works if you read it right. :P 01:28 huginn mtompset: Error: You must be registered to use this command. If you are already registered, you must either identify (using the identify command) or add a hostmask matching your current hostmask (using the "hostmask add" command). 01:28 jenkins_koha Project master_maria build #206: STILL UNSTABLE in 48 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/master_maria/206/ 01:28 jenkins_koha * Jonathan Druart: Bug 9218: fix intranet cart email for non english templates 01:28 jenkins_koha * Mathieu Saby: Bug 9780: restrict the ability to delete a bib record associated with an order 01:28 jenkins_koha * Mathieu Saby: Bug 9780: (follow-up) suppress line feeds in javascript 01:28 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9218 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , intranet cart email broken for non english templates 01:28 jenkins_koha * Mathieu Saby: Bug 9374: Only 0.00 prices must have class error in basket.tt 01:28 jenkins_koha * Jonathan Druart: Bug 9374: The color should manage all zero format. 01:28 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: Bug 9374: (follow-up) add FIXME suggesting that use of a regexp is not the long-term solution 01:28 jenkins_koha * Matthias Meusburger: Bug 7684: multiple fixes for inventory 01:28 jenkins_koha * Jonathan Druart: Bug 7684: QA Followup and bugfixes 01:28 jenkins_koha * Jonathan Druart: Bug 7684: (follow-up) fix crash when generating the CSV 01:28 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9780 major, P4, ---, mathieu.saby, Pushed to Master , Restrict the right to suppress a record used in some order 01:28 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: Bug 7684: (follow-up) use datatables.inc 01:28 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9374 minor, P5 - low, ---, mathieu.saby, Pushed to Master , In baskets, prices between 0 and 1 are displayed in red 01:28 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: Bug 7684: (follow-up) fix UTF-8 encoding problems in CSV export 01:28 jenkins_koha * Sophie Meynieux: Bug 10720: fix issue that prevented use of HTML tags in overdue notices 01:28 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7684 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , inventory : datatable fix actions etc. 01:28 jenkins_koha * Mathieu Saby: Bug 11033: Make Save button and Cancel link always visible on basketgroup page 01:28 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10720 normal, P3, ---, sophie.meynieux, Pushed to Master , Substitution term in overdue notices shouldn't be removed even if they don't match 01:28 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11033 minor, P5 - low, ---, mathieu.saby, Pushed to Master , In basketgroup pages, Save button and Cancel link are hidden by chooselanguage bar 01:29 jenkins_koha Starting build #207 for job master_maria (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #174 9 days 19 hr ago) 01:29 mtompset @quote add <ashimema> ... looks like 'rtfm' only works if you read it right. :P 01:29 huginn mtompset: The operation succeeded. Quote #283 added. 01:29 mtompset @quote get 278 01:29 huginn mtompset: Quote #278: "jcamins: ... OMGOMGOMG MUST FIX ALL THE THINGS." (added by mtompset at 03:50 AM, September 17, 2013) 01:29 mtompset @quote get 279 01:29 huginn mtompset: Quote #279: "eythian: steep learning curves are good, because it means in a short time you learn a lot. It's the shallow ones that are bad because over a long time you learn very little." (added by mtompset at 04:06 AM, September 26, 2013) 01:30 mtompset @quote get 280 01:30 huginn mtompset: Quote #280: "<oleonard> Κοηα?" (added by gmcharlt at 02:15 PM, October 25, 2013) 01:30 mtompset @quote get 281 01:30 huginn mtompset: Quote #281: "cait thinks renewable karma makes a lot of sense" (added by gmcharlt at 05:38 PM, October 28, 2013) 01:30 mtompset @quote get 282 01:30 huginn mtompset: Quote #282: "mtompset: there will always be bugs, until the length of code is 0." (added by wizzyrea at 09:12 PM, October 29, 2013) 01:30 mtompset Ah, okay. I didn't realize I got quote added. 01:32 eythian @quote search mtompset 01:32 huginn eythian: 4 found: #208: "<mtompset> Tonight... I tango with git.", #215: "mtompset> So would a Fire Weasel be a...", #259: "<mtompset> What have I found?! The horror! The...", and #282: "mtompset: there will always be bugs, until the..." 01:33 mtompset Hmm... I don't remember the Fire Weasel one. 01:34 eythian @quote random 01:34 huginn eythian: Quote #233: "<oleonard> How about Now that she's three my daughter has terrible authority control" (added by gmcharlt at 05:06 PM, February 14, 2013) 01:34 wahanui i already had it that way, huginn. 01:35 mtompset she? 01:35 wahanui she is here 01:35 mtompset Now that she? 01:36 eythian you're applying far too much semantics to wahanui. 01:37 mtompset I am just wondering what in the quote triggered wahanui to say that it had it that way. 01:39 mtompset Well, now that I re-read the context for the Fire Weasel, at least my comment was coherent. :) 01:39 Jwellner Ahh... nothing like kicking the UBoat captain off her computer when she's away to get the data... 01:40 eythian mtompset: it's doing some sort of match on 'she's' and turning it in to she is, but I don't think that works completely, so getting it out again may not be possible. 01:41 eythian oh actually, maybe not 01:41 mtompset How about now? 01:41 wahanui now is, like, good time with holidays coming up 01:41 * mtompset grins. 01:42 mtompset Right about now? 01:42 wizzyrea How about Now that? 01:42 wahanui i heard Now that was a christmas party 01:42 wizzyrea lol :) 01:42 eythian I could dump the database and check, but I'd have to take wahanui offline to do that, so I won't :) 01:42 mtompset No need. 01:43 wizzyrea wahanui's a winner. 01:43 mtompset Guessing randomly can be a source of amusement, as long as it isn't floody. 01:43 mtompset The funk? 01:44 mtompset No suprise that wahanui is not sharing in my musical flash back. 01:49 Dyrcona1 Umm, weird... 01:49 wahanui weird is normal after a while :) 01:49 Dyrcona1 Yes. Yes, it is. We're all mad here. 01:50 Jwellner lol :) 01:51 Jwellner problems with your evil twin again? 01:51 mtompset Can we blame verizon? ;) 01:51 Dyrcona Maybe we can blame Verizon. 01:51 Dyrcona It's like two instances of my IRC client started. 01:52 Dyrcona Maybe we should blame Ubuntu? 01:53 Jwellner let's just go for broke and blame the NSA 01:53 Dyrcona Oddly enough, I've been researching writing some crypto software tonight. 01:53 mtompset Shhh.... they're listening. :P 01:54 mtompset Did you know that cryptographic algorithms are considered munitions? 01:54 Jwellner it isn't listening... it's trick or treating... 01:55 Dyrcona In the USA they are, and in France, IIRC, you're supposed to get a license to use them. 01:55 Jwellner i know there were export restrictions but labeling them like that is interesting... 01:55 Dyrcona Or at least, you used to be. 01:55 Dyrcona The USA is messed up. I oughta know, I live there. 01:55 jcamins Dyrcona: to do what? 01:56 Dyrcona jcamins: I've been having problems with duplicity using scp/sftp with paramiko and pexpect backends, ssh-agent, tmux, etc. 01:56 Dyrcona I'm trying to remotely back up 300GB of files via duplicity to a server in San Diego. 01:56 jcamins Yikes. 01:57 Dyrcona I expect it to take a few days, but the process dies every now and then. 01:57 Dyrcona Despite all the suggestions on the web, ssh-agent does not work with tmux. 01:57 Dyrcona So, I thought I'd write a duplicity-alike in C. 01:58 jcamins I use ssh-agent with tmux. 01:58 Jwellner why not rsync via ssh? 01:58 eythian how does that work? 01:58 eythian as soon as you created a new session, the old one wouldn't work 01:58 eythian unless it was smart and tunneled the agent through itself 01:58 eythian which would be _very_ smart and something I could get behind. 01:59 Dyrcona my ssh-agent usually dies very soon after detaching and logging out. 01:59 Dyrcona Jwellner: duplicity also encrypts the files before doing the rsync with ssh. 01:59 Dyrcona I don't own the server where I'm sending the files, so I want to symmetrically encrypt them as well. 02:00 Jwellner Ooo... very nifty :) 02:00 eythian symmetric? Or public? 02:00 eythian I use gpg for encrypting remote backups 02:00 eythian (and make sure the key is safe somewhere else.) 02:00 Dyrcona duplicity does symmetric. 02:01 Dyrcona i have some other files that I backup using tar, gpg and scp. 02:01 Dyrcona 300GB is a bit much to put in a tarball, so i like that duplicity splits them up into chunks. 02:02 Dyrcona plus duplicity handles incremental backup. 02:09 Jwellner very cool... will need to keep this tool in mind... :) 02:18 jenkins_koha Project master_maria build #207: STILL UNSTABLE in 49 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/master_maria/207/ 02:18 jenkins_koha * Jonathan Druart: Bug 11132: don't clear the results list upon adding a biblio to a list 02:18 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: Bug 8307: (follow-up) fix discrepancy in name of the new syspref 02:18 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11132 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , The results list is reset on adding a biblio to a list 02:18 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8307 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , Set a value for items when receiving 02:28 mtompset Dyrcona: You could 'split' the tarball manually. ;) 02:30 Dyrcona uh-huh.... 300GB into 25MB files... 12,000 tar commands and a carpal tunnel syndrome diagnosis later..... ;) 02:33 mtompset no... the split command. 02:33 mtompset 1 tar file, 1 split command. 02:34 mtompset I agree that 12,000 files gets unwieldy, but it makes for rsync-able files. :) 02:35 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 10403: (follow-up) fix test to use vendor created earlier during test <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=9c5e40e4923179bf0b2b630d3e09797dc4c1fdb0> 02:36 Dyrcona I suppose, but wonder what happens when I run out of disk space. 02:37 Dyrcona If it is all done on the same drive, then I'd have the original files, the tar file, the split tar files, then the encrypted copies... 02:38 Dyrcona Of course, the split files could be encrypted, deleted, sent, and then the encrypted version deleted. 02:39 Dyrcona Too bad hardware isn't free. ;) 02:41 Jwellner Depends on where you have rich uncles that have surplus :) 02:42 Jwellner Good hardware, perhaps not... :) I picked up a pair of 16TB arrays today on surplus for work... not sure what to do with them yet, but I'll find them a home :) 02:43 Dyrcona Well, the backups are being done from a computer with an Atom processor, 2GB of RAM, and just under 1TB of disk space on two drives. 02:44 Jwellner A souped up netbook? 02:46 Dyrcona No, one of these: http://www.cappuccinopc.com/buddie-d525.asp 02:47 jenkins_koha Starting build #208 for job master_maria (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #174 9 days 20 hr ago) 02:47 Jwellner oh that's a neat little box... :) 02:48 Dyrcona Yeah, I've used several as network sniffers, a router, and a small office file server. 02:48 Jwellner I was just thinking the network sniffers and such... 02:48 Jwellner especially with the GigE on board... 02:49 Dyrcona Yeah, one of my coworkers uses one as a wireless access point at home. 02:50 Jwellner sweet :) 02:50 Dyrcona I use one at home instead of my ISP's router. 02:50 Jwellner I worked with a Buffalo for that job... 02:50 Jwellner and a Synology for most my other disk stuff 02:51 Jwellner it replicates my 200GB music library pretty well from a sister unit at work. 02:55 mtompset Hmmm... original files, tar it (double), encrypt the tar (3.5x), delete the tar (2.5x), split the encrypted tar (4.0x) ... as long at the original files don't take more than 20% (need to leave lee-way), should barely fit. :) 02:56 mtompset Actually, our backup system uses a mountable encrypted file system on the destination. 02:57 Dyrcona mtompset: I wouldn't trust splitting the encrypted file. 02:58 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #1494: UNSTABLE in 1 hr 56 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/1494/ 02:58 jenkins_koha * Nicole C. Engard: Bug 10671: Update Cataloging Help 02:58 jenkins_koha * Nicole C. Engard: Bug 10671: Update Serials Help 02:58 jenkins_koha * Nicole C. Engard: Bug 10671: Update Tools Help Files 02:58 jenkins_koha * Nicole C. Engard: Bug 10671: Update Admin Help Files 02:58 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10671 normal, P5 - low, ---, nengard, ASSIGNED , Koha 3.14 Help Files Update 02:58 jenkins_koha * Nicole C. Engard: Bug 10671: Update patron help files 02:58 jenkins_koha * Nicole C. Engard: Bug 10671: Update Acq Help Files 02:58 jenkins_koha * Nicole C. Engard: Bug 10671: Update patron help files [ FOLLOW-UP ] 02:58 jenkins_koha * Colin Campbell: Bug 11054: Specify UTF-8 encoding when creating a child record 02:58 jenkins_koha * Liz Rea: Bug 10776: fix awkward wording in subscription notification screen 02:58 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11054 normal, P5 - low, ---, colin.campbell, Pushed to Master , Creating a child record has problems with accented Latin characters 02:58 jenkins_koha * Jonathan Druart: Bug 8307: Set a value for subfields when receiving 02:58 jenkins_koha * Marcel de Rooy: Bug 8307: QA Followup for finishreceive.pl 02:58 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: Bug 9044: (follow-up) fix merge conflict typo that broke this script 02:58 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: Bug 8307: DBrev 3.13.00.041 02:58 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10776 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Subscription notification screen has awkward wording 02:58 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8307 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , Set a value for items when receiving 02:58 jenkins_koha * Jonathan Druart: Bug 9218: fix intranet cart email for non english templates 02:58 jenkins_koha * Mathieu Saby: Bug 9780: restrict the ability to delete a bib record associated with an order 02:58 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9044 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, julian.maurice, Pushed to Master , Allow to select items on catalogue/detail.pl and trigger actions 02:58 jenkins_koha * Mathieu Saby: Bug 9780: (follow-up) suppress line feeds in javascript 02:58 jenkins_koha * Mathieu Saby: Bug 9374: Only 0.00 prices must have class error in basket.tt 02:58 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9218 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , intranet cart email broken for non english templates 02:58 jenkins_koha * Jonathan Druart: Bug 9374: The color should manage all zero format. 02:58 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: Bug 9374: (follow-up) add FIXME suggesting that use of a regexp is not the long-term solution 02:58 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9780 major, P4, ---, mathieu.saby, Pushed to Master , Restrict the right to suppress a record used in some order 02:58 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9374 minor, P5 - low, ---, mathieu.saby, Pushed to Master , In baskets, prices between 0 and 1 are displayed in red 02:58 jenkins_koha * Matthias Meusburger: Bug 7684: multiple fixes for inventory 02:58 jenkins_koha * Jonathan Druart: Bug 7684: QA Followup and bugfixes 02:58 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7684 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , inventory : datatable fix actions etc. 02:58 jenkins_koha * Jonathan Druart: Bug 7684: (follow-up) fix crash when generating the CSV 02:58 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: Bug 7684: (follow-up) use datatables.inc 02:58 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: Bug 7684: (follow-up) fix UTF-8 encoding problems in CSV export 02:58 jenkins_koha * Sophie Meynieux: Bug 10720: fix issue that prevented use of HTML tags in overdue notices 02:58 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10720 normal, P3, ---, sophie.meynieux, Pushed to Master , Substitution term in overdue notices shouldn't be removed even if they don't match 02:58 jenkins_koha * Mathieu Saby: Bug 11033: Make Save button and Cancel link always visible on basketgroup page 02:58 jenkins_koha * Jonathan Druart: Bug 11132: don't clear the results list upon adding a biblio to a list 02:58 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11033 minor, P5 - low, ---, mathieu.saby, Pushed to Master , In basketgroup pages, Save button and Cancel link are hidden by chooselanguage bar 02:58 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: Bug 8307: (follow-up) fix discrepancy in name of the new syspref 02:58 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11132 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , The results list is reset on adding a biblio to a list 02:59 jenkins_koha Starting build #1495 for job Koha_master (previous build: UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #1493 3 hr 53 min ago) 02:59 mtompset Me neither, Dyrcona. Just thinking of a hypothetical way of doing it, not necessarily the best way. 03:00 mtompset we rsync over ssh between vm's and the destination has a mounted encrypted directory which we mount to backup and unmount upon completion... very narrow window of data stealing. :) 03:14 Dyrcona yeah. I use plain rsync over ssh when I control the endpoints. In this case, I don't control one. 03:15 Dyrcona The backup company also strongly encourages their customers to encrypt their files before sending them to the server. 03:17 mtompset Could you do an intermediate stop-over? 03:18 mtompset One that gets it to a secondary point and encrypted somehow (such as a mounted encrypted FS) 03:18 mtompset and then use the secondary point to push the encrypted files to the final destination? 03:19 mtompset perhaps mount an encrypted FS on the first machine, and instead of tar'ing... rsync to the encrypted FS point. 03:19 mtompset unmount the point. 03:20 mtompset rsync the encypted files to the destination. 03:20 Dyrcona Well, I don't want to put my personal stuff on the servers owned by the non-profit where I work during the day. 03:22 Dyrcona I'm not sure that really buys me much, plus I'd rather have the incremental features for these files, since 300GB is a lot to send over every time something changes. 03:22 Dyrcona Granted, these files don't change that often. 03:23 Dyrcona I think using librsync, openssl or libgcrypt, libssh, or libssh2, I should be able to implement what I want. 03:25 Dyrcona It would make for an interesting little project. 03:27 Dyrcona Plus, I could have fun adding support for vcdiff, bsdiff, and other algorithms. 03:36 jenkins_koha Yippie, build fixed! 03:36 jenkins_koha Project master_maria build #208: FIXED in 49 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/master_maria/208/ 03:36 jenkins_koha Galen Charlton: Bug 10403: (follow-up) fix test to use vendor created earlier during test 03:36 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10403 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Pushed to Master , Add ability to set fund/budget on receipt 03:40 Dyrcona Of course, since I started it again a few hours, duplicity has picked up where it left off and is chugging away a the files. 03:40 Dyrcona should be an "ago" in there somewhere. :) 03:40 Dyrcona Oh well, as my daughter used to say, "Nighttime, bed." 04:24 mtompset Have a great day, #koha. 04:53 jenkins_koha Yippie, build fixed! 04:53 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #1495: FIXED in 1 hr 54 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/1495/ 04:53 jenkins_koha Galen Charlton: Bug 10403: (follow-up) fix test to use vendor created earlier during test 04:53 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10403 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Pushed to Master , Add ability to set fund/budget on receipt 06:51 * Oak waves 07:20 * magnuse waves 07:21 magnuse build fixed! woohoo! \o/ 07:22 * cait waves tiredly 07:34 * magnuse sends cait some coffee 07:36 cait thx 08:06 petter good morning koha 08:28 cait good morning petter :) 08:40 magnuse hiya petter 08:40 petter heisann! 08:40 magnuse morndu! 08:44 * magnuse wishes someone would put bug 6554 out of it's misery 08:44 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6554 critical, P3, ---, ketan, Failed QA , Resolve encoding problems with corrected UTF8 handling in templates 08:45 cait i think tcohen has some ideas about this one 08:45 cait we should ask him when he shows up :) 08:46 petter yes, it really bugs me too 08:46 petter It seams particullary to be a problem with the latin1 subset 08:46 petter including norwegian characters æøå 08:46 cait i think colin fixed another issue some days ago 08:46 petter It looks like text sometimes get double encoded 08:47 cait where it seems part of latin1 was the problem? 08:49 petter cait: do you know which bug his fix is? 08:49 cait hmm i can find it, but not totally sure it#s related or helpful, so don't be disappointed 08:51 cait bug 11054 08:52 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11054 normal, P5 - low, ---, colin.campbell, Pushed to Master , Creating a child record has problems with accented Latin characters 08:55 petter thanks! 09:49 petter is there a good reason not to have all koha files in UTF-8? 09:49 ashimema waking up to poor rancid milk on my shreddies. This will be a thing of the paste when my new fridge arrives! 09:50 petter I don't know Perl, but in other languages like Python & Ruby encoding problems are solved by having UTF-8 everywhere 09:50 petter bug 6654 really bugs me! 09:50 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6654 critical, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, CLOSED FIXED, [security] Authentication issues 09:50 petter bug 6554 i mean 09:50 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6554 critical, P3, ---, ketan, Failed QA , Resolve encoding problems with corrected UTF8 handling in templates 09:51 cait ashimema: morning :) 09:51 petter god morning 09:51 petter good morning 09:51 petter let's kep God out of it 09:52 magnuse lol 09:53 magnuse petter: yeah, i'd say everything ought to be utf-8, but then i'm far from being an expert... 09:53 ashimema Morning all. 09:53 magnuse so you see files that are not? 09:53 magnuse hiya ashimema 09:54 ashimema petter, magnuse.. likewise.. I'de go with everything should be in utf-8 09:54 petter yes most of the files are ASCII actually 09:54 petter and a few are utf-8 encoded 09:55 petter just go into a template directory for example 09:55 ashimema interesting.. never noticed that before. 09:55 petter and to 09:55 petter ls | xargs file 09:55 petter you'll see ASCII text mostly, and sometimes UTF-8 unicode 09:56 ashimema by jove 09:58 magnuse yeah, that looks really random 09:58 magnuse i have no idea what the implications are, though 09:59 petter me neither 10:01 kivilahtio lol I got the child records working! Also found a bug from our child record data migration tool 10:01 kivilahtio our database jumped from 350 000 to 1 100 000 :) 10:01 kivilahtio records 10:01 kivilahtio had to do some virtual guest restructuring to facilitate that :D 10:01 petter congratulations! 10:01 kivilahtio this is SO big! 10:01 petter :) 10:01 cait it is 10:02 kivilahtio 62.148.106.91/cgi-bin/koha/opac-detail.pl?biblionumber=20396 10:02 kivilahtio there is a issue with the returning link from child record to the parent record 10:02 kivilahtio it makes a funny zebra query based on everything else than the parents $001 10:03 kivilahtio this is odd 10:03 kivilahtio 001 should be forced to match the biblionumber in DB 10:03 kivilahtio also those title, author searches dont work for us 10:04 ashimema kivilahtio: lol.. at the moment there's no way to do that (force 001 to match biblionumber) 10:04 kivilahtio I mean when you try to access the parent record from hte child record, we get no search results 10:04 kivilahtio ashimema: I made that possible in 6113 10:04 kivilahtio bug_6113 10:04 kivilahtio ashimema: regarding bibliographic data migration tho 10:05 kivilahtio ashimema: but what real barriers there are for that? 10:05 * ashimema goes to find the bug. 10:05 cait kivilahtio: also it can't be forced by default 10:05 cait we have wonderful 001 i won't give up for a biblionumber 10:05 kivilahtio cait: Wee when you create a new record how is the 001 defined? 10:05 ashimema should be a syspref... but I know we'de love it. 10:05 magnuse bug 6113 10:05 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6113 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, olli-antti.kivilahti, In Discussion , enhancement to keep previous ids 10:05 cait all our records are from a union catalog and they contain the numbers anduse them for linking 10:06 kivilahtio but hte Koha cataloguing tool doesnt add any 001 10:06 cait no it doesn't 10:06 kivilahtio this is a big issue regarding child record linking 10:06 ashimema your in a pretty privileged position there cait 10:06 cait just saying we need a flexible solution here 10:06 cait :) 10:06 cait yep 10:06 cait i know 10:06 kivilahtio cait I understand your point 10:06 ashimema needs to be syspref driven.. 10:06 magnuse bug 9921 10:06 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9921 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, nunyo, In Discussion , Make it possible to force 001 = biblionumber 10:06 kivilahtio bug 11175 already has a ystem preference should the child record data be injected to the xslt transformation source xml 10:06 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11175 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Show the parent records child records (aka. component parts) in the detailed views. 10:06 cait ok 10:07 cait please someone send me packing? 10:07 magnuse cait: go packing! 10:07 kivilahtio I can write the XSLT default templates to have 001 link optionally 10:07 cait magnuse: i know you are not really mean... 10:07 kivilahtio actually that was just what I was about to do 10:08 kivilahtio but 001 is not the same as biblionumber 10:08 magnuse there is a syspref related to that, i think 10:08 cait kivilahtio: hm, they already fall back if there is no link? 10:08 kivilahtio this is so bad 10:08 kivilahtio magnuse: really? 10:08 cait if there is no $w subfield, then it falls back to a search 10:08 kivilahtio cait: I understand now what you mean with union catalog 10:08 kivilahtio cait: well it doesnt fall back for me 10:09 kivilahtio cait: I always get the search even if $773w is present 10:09 cait oyu have to turn on UseControlNumber 10:09 magnuse "UseControlNumber [Use/Don't use] record control number ($w subfields) and control number (001) for linking of bibliographic records." not sure if you could/should reuse that 10:10 kivilahtio lol I thought I set it on?!? 10:10 kivilahtio There is a ghost in our Koha system := 10:10 kivilahtio now it works 10:10 ashimema UseControlNumber and EasyAnalytics are very different sysprefs and seem to be pretty misunderstood. 10:10 cait and not compatible with each other i think 10:10 ashimema haha.. glad you got it working 10:10 ashimema yeah.. they're not really compatible. 10:11 ashimema we deffo need to put mutual exclusiveness into the syspreffs. 10:11 ashimema is there a bug for that open yet cait? 10:11 kivilahtio just found a bug related to UseControlNumber 10:11 cait for the mutual exclusiveness? 10:11 kivilahtio our records have only $773, $7 = nn && $w = 9326 10:11 cait hm, not that I am aware of... but my brain ran out of memory for the bug database 10:11 kivilahtio this doesnt work 10:11 kivilahtio needs to be more data to make the link 10:12 cait you need a link text 10:12 cait $t i think 10:12 kivilahtio cait: ah yeah that was it 10:12 kivilahtio now I remeber 10:12 kivilahtio I was supposed to fix it to our data migrationtool :) 10:12 ashimema you need an upgrade cait 10:12 magnuse i think tcohen was working on some sanity checks for sysprefs 10:12 cait i do. 10:12 kivilahtio I think it is a good practice to include them when you introduce new sysprefs 10:14 ashimema hmm.. if we're getting picky about linking.. really we should be ensuring uniqueness of 001+003 as apposed to just 001 (for mark21 at least).. and then linking upon that.. 10:14 ashimema but at the moment we don't ;) 10:14 magnuse and there is the "System information" tab under "About Koha" 10:15 cait ashimema: yeah, but sitll good thinking 10:17 ashimema magnuse: what was that related to.. I don't follow? 10:17 kivilahtio ashimema: what do you mean with 001 + 003? 10:18 cait 001 + 003 are a pair 10:18 cait 003 defines the source of the 001 10:18 ashimema 001 - Record Control Number, 003 - Control Number Identifier 10:18 kivilahtio cait: ah 10:18 kivilahtio who cares? 10:18 ashimema haha.. cait beat me to it. 10:18 kivilahtio :) 10:18 cait so when you download records from different catalogs that include 001 they don't overlap 10:19 kivilahtio understood 10:19 cait ashimema: but your answer was more perfect :) 10:19 magnuse ashimema: mutual exclusiveness of sysprefs 10:19 cait ashimema: I will show you a trick :) 10:19 cait @marc 001 10:19 huginn cait: The control number assigned by the organization creating, using, or distributing the record. The MARC code for the organization is contained in field 003 (Control Number Identifier). [] 10:19 cait @marc 003 10:19 huginn cait: The MARC code for the organization whose control number is contained in field 001 (Control Number). [] 10:19 magnuse huginn++ 10:20 kivilahtio huginn++ 10:20 ashimema huggin is awesome! 10:20 kivilahtio btw what IDE do you use for Perl developing 10:20 kivilahtio how do youo debug Koha and make new devs? 10:20 kivilahtio how about git? 10:20 cait geany - mostly a text editor 10:20 kivilahtio you just use command line git? 10:20 cait command line 10:20 ashimema vim ;) 10:21 cait lol 10:21 cait okok, you win 10:21 ashimema though i've been thinking of moving to a proper IDE for a while.. never found one for perl i've been happy with. 10:21 kivilahtio ashimema: try Eclipse + EPIC 10:21 ashimema yup.. command line git.. 10:21 kivilahtio ashimema: or Komodo IDE 10:21 magnuse gedit + command line git for me 10:21 kivilahtio ashimema: I am using Komodo IDE 8.5 and it is superb 10:21 ashimema if you're on windows/mac you could use atlasian's sourcetree.. I hear great things about it all the time. 10:22 ashimema i tired padre and exlipse+epic 10:22 kivilahtio ashimema: I can emulate CGI-calls and run an active debugger through whole Koha 10:22 ashimema not tried komodo 10:22 ashimema nice 10:22 kivilahtio ashimema: That is INSANELY powerfull, brings lots of java-like debugging features 10:22 kivilahtio not code hot-swap 10:22 kivilahtio but otherwise pretty good 10:23 kivilahtio I couldn't use those for Evergreen, I tried hard, but the system was just structured in a really difficult way 10:23 kivilahtio but For Koha! Bam, my productivity has easily tripled 10:24 kivilahtio btw gotta go and pay my Komodo licence for this year, 300€ 10:25 ashimema may have to try it out.. 10:26 ashimema hmm.. not doing much coding though at the moment :(.. a 21 day trial would be a waste right now. 10:27 cait i think the word license will scare lots of people around #koha off 10:34 * magnuse installs geany 10:41 ashimema snap 10:50 magnuse ? 11:04 cait it's just an editor 11:04 cait with a nice icon 11:05 magnuse well, it seems to be a bit more advanced than gedit, with projects etc 11:05 magnuse but when i have tried for 10 minutes to create a koha project, without success, i kind of give up on it... 11:06 cait ah, i don't work with a project 11:06 cait i just use it as an editor heh 11:11 ashimema wow.. just finished reading the comments on all those bugs.. there's allot going on in the sequential number space.. hadn't realised. 11:12 magnuse yeah, sadly it seems to have stalled the 001 = biblionumber thing a bit, i think? 11:15 ashimema yeah.. kinda. 11:16 ashimema though I'm actually in the camp of I'de live to see it based upon sequence number as opposed to actually keep 001 = biblionumber.. 11:17 ashimema I would also love to see a bug that implements the full spec of linking to 001+003 as an addition to the options we've already got of link on 001 OR link on biblionumber. 11:18 cait ashimema: i think the linkings should still work if you also use 003 11:18 cait so cataloguing like hat should be oki 11:18 cait just nothing automatic 11:19 cait i mean it doesn't break if you do $w(003)001 11:19 cait which would be the standard 11:19 cait ok, leaving now - have a nice weekend everyone :) 11:22 ashimema Hmm.. think I need to test that.. maybe it's changed since I last tried it out. 11:52 * cait-m_ waves 11:53 * magnuse waves to cait-m_ 11:54 cait-m_ hm wonder why the underscore keeps happening 11:57 cait-m_ @wunder konstanz 11:57 huginn cait-m_: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 7.3°C (12:55 PM CET on November 01, 2013). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 96%. Dew Point: 7.0°C. Windchill: 7.0°C. Pressure: 30.12 in 1020 hPa (Falling). 11:58 cait-m_ chilly 12:13 Oak @wunder islamabad 12:13 huginn Oak: The current temperature in Islamabad, Pakistan is 23.0°C (5:00 PM PKT on November 01, 2013). Conditions: Haze. Humidity: 44%. Dew Point: 10.0°C. Pressure: 30.01 in 1016 hPa (Steady). 12:16 ashimema @wunder london 12:16 huginn ashimema: Error: No such location could be found. 12:17 ashimema are there any doc out there for our bots? 12:43 tcohen morning 12:47 magnuse ashimema: i guess there are many londons 12:47 magnuse @wunder london, uk 12:47 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in London, United Kingdom is 14.0°C (12:20 PM GMT on November 01, 2013). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 88%. Dew Point: 12.0°C. Pressure: 29.80 in 1009 hPa (Falling). 12:48 magnuse @wunder boo 12:48 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 6.0°C (1:20 PM CET on November 01, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 66%. Dew Point: 0.0°C. Windchill: 2.0°C. Pressure: 29.33 in 993 hPa (Steady). 12:48 magnuse airport codes work too :-) 12:51 tcohen @wunder cordoba, argentina 12:51 huginn tcohen: The current temperature in Cordoba Aerodrome, Argentina is 15.0°C (9:00 AM ART on November 01, 2013). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 97%. Dew Point: 15.0°C. Pressure: 29.83 in 1010 hPa (Rising). 12:57 cait-m_ @wunder haigerloch 12:57 huginn cait-m_: The current temperature in Rottenburg, Germany is 8.7°C (1:48 PM CET on November 01, 2013). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 90%. Dew Point: 7.0°C. Windchill: 9.0°C. Pressure: 30.09 in 1019 hPa (Steady). 12:58 ashimema indeed 12:59 magnuse rottenburg?!? ;-) 12:59 cait-m_ what? 13:00 cait-m_ might be the closest weather station 13:00 magnuse a rotten burg? that does not sound too nice 13:04 ashimema hmm.. I'm playing with sandboxes.. I wonder if I can get them to work with a package install and koha-gitify 13:08 cait-m_ smells nicer ten rotorua 13:08 cait-m_ ashimena: trying to set up your own? 13:09 magnuse cait-m_: that is good to hear :-) 13:11 ashimema yep.. I had a go when they were introduced at last years kohacon.. didn't get especially far.. but I've been given the go ahead to have another go 13:12 magnuse cool 13:16 cait-m_ :) 13:18 ashimema the only piece I can see there being issues with so far for packages is the call to updatedatabase.pl 13:18 ashimema I'm not exactly sure how packages handle this. 13:19 ashimema hmm. the calls to rebuild zebra may also need minor modification.. though I'm not sure. 13:20 magnuse ashimema: look at debian/scripts/koha-upgrade-schema 13:21 ashimema cheers magnuse 13:21 cait-m_ there are some things sandboxrd cant handle yet i think 13:21 ashimema yeah.. a fari few things I think.. 13:21 ashimema another reason another pair of eyes can only be good ;) 13:26 cait-m_ :) 13:26 Barrc Howd'y. Does anyone have any thoughts on why Koha checks in an item that has a hold on it before asking the staff what to do with it? 13:26 Barrc as opposed to asking first, then checking it it!? 13:27 cait-m_ why should it not check ot in? 13:28 jcamins Barrc: because if it asked first, the book would still be on the previous patron's record. 13:28 Barrc Well, it's not that it shouldn't check it in, it's just that it might always want to check it in! 13:29 Barrc It's casuing me problems with SIP to be honest. SIP gets a return code back to say the book has been checked in from AddReturn 13:29 cait-m_ if someone checks in abook its returnef 13:29 Barrc It makes it difficult to stop the SelfCheck transaction happening, as well, it's already happened!" 13:29 cait-m_ phone typoeing 13:29 cait-m_ why do you want to stop it? 13:30 Barrc Because the returning borrower is putting into a shelving trolloy and the hold notice is never being triggered. 13:30 Barrc It effectivly makes Holds usless. 13:31 cait-m_ our libraries just go abd pick thrm up 13:31 cait-m_ they show up in holds to pull 13:31 cait-m_ and we have a report to list the items with holds on the cart 13:31 Barrc Yeah, the workflow is different in this library, and not how it happened on "...their old system" !!! 13:32 cait-m_ well 13:32 ashimema sounds more of a sip issue than a checkin issue 13:32 cait-m_ koha is not their old system 13:32 Barrc If fairness, they do have a point. It was the same for transits too, I had to change the logic their too! 13:32 Barrc ashimema: But SIP calls the same routine as a normal checking 13:33 Barrc there is no way, at present, to differentiate between the two. 13:33 cait-m_ i think as a patron it would annoy me to have to return books with holds sep 13:34 cait-m_ but check bugzilla there was some discussion about holds handlong a while ago 13:35 Barrc cait-m: I agree. However, I can see an argument for having an option. At the moment it is possible for an item to be checked in at, say 13:00 shelved at 13:10 and checked out again, even with a hold on it! 13:35 cait-m_ sorry client died 13:37 Barrc The only way I can think of is adding a SystemPref for all things SIP (which should be implemented anyway , I think) then passing an extra argument to the various methods indicating SIP or Staff etc.... 13:38 Barrc which will be a nightmare! 13:44 magnuse anyone using gather_print_notices.pl? 13:48 magnuse i'm getting: print() on closed filehandle $OUTPUT at /usr/share/koha/bin/cronjobs/gather_print_notices.pl line 129. 13:49 cait-m_ sorry tested ages ago but not using it 14:06 magnuse ah, i was trying to write the file to a dir i did not have permissions on... (or rather, since i was using koha-shell, the koha_instance user did not have permissions) 14:10 mtompset Greetings, #koha. 14:17 gmcharlt @quote random 14:17 huginn gmcharlt: Quote #119: "<wasabi> wow, and a pig!!! -> http://www.blainefranger.com/blog/uploaded_images/IMG_6368_nepali_food.jpg" (added by wasabi at 10:22 AM, January 27, 2011) 14:18 * gmcharlt blinks 14:18 druthb lulz 14:18 gmcharlt MOVING ON! 14:23 mtompset http://youtu.be/MMR5JVo21wQ 14:25 tcohen :-D 14:26 ashimema :) 14:27 gmcharlt mtompset++ 14:27 * druthb sings, "Movin' right along, dubby-dub-dubby-dub…" 14:30 rambutan I hope the image of a skinned red pig clears my mind before lunch. I hope also the same for druthb and gmcharlt. Skinned red pig. 14:30 gmcharlt rambutan: you're not helping! ;) 14:30 rambutan no? 14:31 rambutan @wunder 64507 14:31 huginn rambutan: The current temperature in Wyatt Park, St Joseph, Missouri is 6.1°C (9:31 AM CDT on November 01, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 91%. Dew Point: 5.0°C. Windchill: 6.0°C. Pressure: 29.78 in 1008 hPa (Rising). 14:37 druthb @wunder 77098 14:37 huginn druthb: The current temperature in Greenway Plaza, Houston, Texas is 18.9°C (9:37 AM CDT on November 01, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 72%. Dew Point: 14.0°C. Pressure: 29.90 in 1012 hPa (Rising). 14:46 tcohen has anyone experienced problems git recent git versions 1.8.x and previously working gitolite setups? 14:47 mtompset Sorry. :( 15:08 mtompset http://idibon.com/the-weirdest-languages/ 15:13 jcamins I am so glad I always carry extra socks. 15:23 gmcharlt tcohen: I have not, but for obvious reasons, I'll be interested to hear details 15:58 gmcharlt are there any UNIMARC users around who would be interested in smoke-testing installation of the beta tarball? 16:21 ashimema so.. remind me.. whose the master of the sandbox's ? I'm having issues with setting my system up for it. 16:23 ashimema aha.. I'm an idiot.. I left 'mysql_database_name' in the cron instead of replacing it with the actualy database name! 16:23 gmcharlt create database mysql_database_name... 16:23 gmcharlt ;) 16:25 talljoy has anyone used an open source 'digital library' that they can recommend? 16:28 jcamins talljoy: presumably rangi would recommend Kete, if that's what you mean. 16:28 rambutan DSpace 16:28 talljoy i thought of that ;-) 16:28 talljoy Dspace is the other i thought of. 16:28 talljoy Vudl ? 16:28 druthb I worked with DSpace in a prior life. 16:28 jcamins I didn't like DSpace when I tried it out. 16:28 jcamins Fedora seemed much more promising. 16:28 jcamins Less clunky. 16:29 talljoy i need something that will take high res images and be able to zoom in and around. 16:29 jcamins Greenstone was just unpleasant. 16:30 druthb In early incarnations, Fedora was just the object-store framework, and you had to bolt everything onto it. The Fedora team cleverly realized this put them behind DSpace on the adoption curve, even with DS being so clunky and evil and (at that time) married to QDC format. 16:30 talljoy vudl is now fedora is it not jcamins 16:31 rambutan I also cannot recommend greenstone, although it might have improved in the 4 years since I previously used it 16:31 jcamins talljoy: it's a front end, yeah. 16:32 jcamins I've heard people swear by Islandora, too, as a front end. 16:33 talljoy thansk jcamins 16:33 talljoy good info all. Thanks! 16:34 rambutan I thought that at one time DSpace and Fedora were going to merge. This page -> http://www.duraspace.org/web_seminars has some DSpace cf. Fedora webinars at the bottom 16:34 jcamins talljoy: of course, if all you need is an image viewer, you might be able to just stick an image viewer JS widget on top of Koha. 16:36 rambutan there's clearly some collaboration still going on: "DuraSpace news highlights DSpace and Fedora community information." http://www.dspace.org/duraspace-blog/duraspace-blog.html 16:39 jcamins I ask you: what is the point of arranging a bibliography by author main entry, and including a main author index, but not a title index? 16:40 rambutan trying to save paper costs? 16:41 jcamins rambutan: in that case, don't print a fifty page index that just repeats the order of the bibliography. 16:42 jcamins Or publish it as an ebook. 16:42 rambutan ah 16:43 jcamins My initial thought was saving paper as well, then it struck me that if they really wanted to save paper, they wouldn't have printed an index that provided no new information. 16:48 ashimema ack.. how would: Run->new( qq|mysql -e "drop database $databasename;create database $databasename;"| ); 16:48 ashimema ever work. 16:49 ashimema surely you need a mysql username/password somewhere in there.. 16:50 talljoy i would think so 16:51 ashimema the sandbox code executes the above somehow on biblibres servers I assume.. wondering now if the contrib git is up to date with their stuff. 16:51 ashimema maybe they don't set mysql root passwords? 16:52 gmcharlt hmm 16:52 ashimema anyone know whose in charge of their sandbox servers?.. i can see lots of commiters against contrib 16:52 gmcharlt it's not clear to me if we set a firm date for elections for 3.16 roles 16:56 gmcharlt but I guess by timing and custom, it's either going to have to be the next general meeting, scheduled for 11/6, or a special mid-November meeting 17:06 cait-m_ its on the agenda i think 17:06 nengard hey all - do we have a bug/enhancement about tabbing through pull down menus in Koha? 17:06 nengard sounds familiar and I don't want to report a new one 17:06 nengard but I can't find the old one (if there is one) 17:06 jcamins nengard: with bootstrap the arrow keys work. 17:06 jcamins You mean on the staff client, right? 17:06 nengard k- pre-bootstrap and yes 17:07 jcamins I think it just works in 3.12+. 17:07 cait-m_ it shoukd i think 17:08 nengard k 17:08 nengard thanks 17:17 gmcharlt cait-m_: indeed it is -- good enough 17:50 jenkins_koha Starting build #103 for job Koha_3.12.x (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #98 24 days ago) 17:58 magnuse ashimema: i think paul_p has done a lot of work on the sandboxen 18:30 magnuse make pizza 18:30 magnuse oops, wrong window ;-) 18:30 jcamins magnuse: you have an IRC channel that takes instructions like that? 18:30 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.12.x build #103: STILL UNSTABLE in 40 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.12.x/103/ 18:30 jenkins_koha * Kyle M Hall: Bug 10027: include fine details when printing a fine 18:30 jenkins_koha * Kyle M Hall: Bug 10027: (follow-up) tidy members/printinvoice.pl 18:30 jenkins_koha * Kyle M Hall: Bug 10027: (follow-up) improve display of fine details on printed invoice 18:30 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10027 normal, P5 - low, ---, kyle.m.hall, Pushed to Stable , Fine details not showing when printing a fine 18:30 jenkins_koha * Owen Leonard: Bug 10619 - fix errors in sco.css for the CCSR OPAC templates 18:30 jenkins_koha * Owen Leonard: Bug 9943: activate "Pay selected" button only when at least one fine is selected 18:30 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10619 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Stable , sco.css missing for CCSR OPAC templates 18:30 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9943 minor, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Stable , Pay fines page "Pay selected" button give invalid amount when nothing is selected 18:38 magnuse jcamins: nah, i was aming for my terminal, where i just unzipped pizza_ingredients-2.0.zip 19:02 mtompset @later tell tcohen I posted some of my test results for bug 10003. 19:02 huginn mtompset: The operation succeeded. 21:09 rambutan @seen jcamins 21:09 huginn rambutan: jcamins was last seen in #koha 2 hours, 38 minutes, and 47 seconds ago: <jcamins> magnuse: you have an IRC channel that takes instructions like that? 21:10 jcamins o/ 21:10 rambutan the FF offline circ module--where does the transaction file live, or what is the name of it? 21:11 rambutan and when is it deleted, at the next download of records? 21:11 jcamins It is stored in the browser's indexeddb, and transactions are kept until they've been uploaded. 21:11 rambutan hummm, 'k 21:12 jcamins So if you don't upload transactions, they will hang around for months, and then confuse you terribly when you try to test other things and get a handful of transactions from six months ago. 21:12 gmcharlt a minor enhancement idea occurs 21:13 gmcharlt "You appear to have been very dilatory about uploading your offline circulation transaction. Are you /quite/ sure about this?" 21:13 gmcharlt ;) 21:13 gmcharlt Jeeves accent optional 21:13 jcamins Heh. 21:15 rambutan the issue we're addressing is that a nervous bookmobile person is ready to upload records, and hasn't kept a separate manual record as usual, and wants to backup the transaction record on the computer before uploading 21:16 jcamins rambutan: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/5358704/where-are-firefox-indexeddb-files-stored 21:17 jcamins If you copy the indexedDB directory out, you can always put it back in. 21:30 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: updated release notes for 3.14.0 beta <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=a1d4af3d73bacd552fa7411e29b4963c9350ea20> / DBRev 3.13.00.042: mark Koha 3.14 beta <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=0cb4f09eb25f8636e77e4ea0cfa5c96ed185821e> 21:32 jenkins_koha Starting build #209 for job master_maria (previous build: FIXED) 21:36 jenkins_koha Starting build #1496 for job Koha_master (previous build: FIXED) 22:02 rambutan you know, the koc sql sometimes creates a lock file that can screw things up, I haven't quite figured out what does it when uploading transactions 22:20 jenkins_koha Project master_maria build #209: SUCCESS in 48 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/master_maria/209/ 22:20 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: DBRev 3.13.00.042: mark Koha 3.14 beta 22:20 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: updated release notes for 3.14.0 beta 22:23 nengard :) 22:25 ChilhoweeLibrar I have a few questions and was wondering if someone can answer them for me 23:27 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #1496: SUCCESS in 1 hr 51 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/1496/ 23:27 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: DBRev 3.13.00.042: mark Koha 3.14 beta 23:27 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: updated release notes for 3.14.0 beta 23:30 Jwellner @drnoe hi 23:30 huginn Jwellner: I suck 23:31 drnoe howdy jwellner 23:31 Jwellner Geez... that's what I get for being rusty with my IRC... 23:31 Jwellner How are you doing David? 23:32 drnoe pretty good. just updating little things whilst waiting on the data. you? 23:34 Jwellner Getting ready to do the extraction 23:35 drnoe right on. just let me know. I will work on getting ready tonight and liekly load it in the morning. 23:37 pianohacker saml-- 23:38 pianohacker I need something like 23:38 pianohacker self check 23:38 pianohacker self check? 23:38 pianohacker dammit wahanui 23:44 joels68 NAMES [#koha] 23:44 joels68 Hello. 23:48 joels68 @wunder Worthington MN 23:48 huginn joels68: The current temperature in Worthington, Minnesota is 7.0°C (6:35 PM CDT on November 01, 2013). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 66%. Dew Point: 1.0°C. Windchill: 3.0°C. Pressure: 29.81 in 1009 hPa. 23:51 joels68 @info 23:51 huginn joels68: Error: The command "info" is available in the Factoids and RSS plugins. Please specify the plugin whose command you wish to call by using its name as a command before "info". 23:53 joels68 @recent 23:53 huginn joels68: Error: You don't have the admin capability. If you think that you should have this capability, be sure that you are identified before trying again. The 'whoami' command can tell you if you're identified.