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23:51 talljoy yiis
23:50 wizzyrea then drink up ;)
23:50 talljoy except falling asleep.
23:50 talljoy true, but i think i'll be on the couch, so no danger of falling.
23:49 wizzyrea reduces the amount of falling down.
23:49 talljoy not at all.
23:49 wizzyrea eating with wine is encouraged.
23:49 jcamins talljoy: and wine is a bad thing?
23:49 talljoy ok, i'm off for wine. no dinner, just wine. ./blarg
23:46 cait night
23:44 ashimema night y'all
23:36 pianohacker good night :)
23:31 wizzyrea yayee!
23:30 cait yay!
23:26 ashimema yeay.. I unbroked zebra.
23:25 ashimema ack.. and again with my typo's
23:25 ashimema cheers cait
23:24 ashimema pianhacker.. that's me ;)
23:20 * cait sends coffee and cookies
23:18 pianohacker oh hey martin. nice username :)
23:17 * ashimema and is mid fixing a server he broke earlier :(
23:17 * ashimema is also sleepy
23:17 pianohacker sleep, eh
23:14 cait long day should sleep soon
23:11 cait not sure i understand the difference here and there... but a nicer template system would be great
23:11 cait hm
23:10 gmcharlt but such arguments could be confined to the templates, and not touch the code :)
23:10 cait people might still argue about line breaks :)
23:09 gmcharlt *supporting
23:09 gmcharlt as it would ease support all of those options
23:09 gmcharlt hence while a better templating engine (like, conveniently, Template Toolkit) would be nice
23:09 cait i think
23:09 cait but if i have html, i want to dictate the layout with that and not have the program do it'sown thing
23:08 cait and html is great for the slips
23:08 cait i kinda like the option to send text messages... while i can see why some prefer html
23:08 gmcharlt cait: eh, things like 11173 are reasons why overhauling the template system for notices would be a Good Thing
23:05 wizzyrea and 3. if it could be working someday (cuz'n that would be handy)
23:05 wizzyrea and 1. if you knew that and 2. if that was intentional
23:04 wizzyrea it seems not to be.
23:04 wizzyrea was wondering if http cloning was working
23:04 wizzyrea oh gmcharlt - my question was about git.koha-community.org
23:00 cait hm, hope i didn't get but 11173 wrong
22:59 jcamins cait: like corned beef.
22:57 gmcharlt wizzyrea: pong
22:55 cait ah no something else
22:55 cait pickling... like fish?
22:53 jcamins I think it's actually pickling broth.
22:53 jcamins It should've been beef broth.
22:53 jcamins I think this broth was mislabeled.
22:51 jcamins cait: I am starting with something, tasting it, and declaring it needs something else, until it's a completely different soup.
22:50 * cait throws some swiss cheese
22:49 * talljoy throws a clove of garlic jcamins way
22:47 cait :)
22:46 cait if you are not asking villagers for ingredients...
22:46 cait but not really what you are doing :)
22:45 cait jcamins: that does explain history
22:44 jcamins This still needs something else.
22:42 jcamins cait: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stone_Soup
22:42 cait and i always tried to eat them raw...
22:42 cait aaaah
22:42 cjh the boiling will soften them up.
22:41 cait stone?
22:40 * jcamins is making cauliflower-stone soup.
22:34 cait hreh
22:29 talljoy sshhhhh
22:29 wahanui talljoy: what?
22:29 talljoy wahanui, i'm not leaving
22:29 wahanui I'll be waiting for you to come back, talljoy.
22:29 talljoy good night!
22:29 magnuse and with that i bid y'all a good night or other time of the day ;-)
22:28 talljoy hrm...
22:27 magnuse here's a quote y'all can love to hate: "[syslog-ng] has grown over the years from open source software to a full-fledged, commercial-grade software with varying levels of enterprise-level support options available." from http://shop.oreilly.com/product/9781597496353.do
22:24 cait woohoo :)
22:23 * magnuse will soon get to spend much more time on koha - w00t!
22:23 * wizzyrea giggles
22:22 magnuse cait: we all got super busy just to keep you happy :-)
22:22 wizzyrea bug bot
22:22 cait i got 247 mails in my qa inbox from today??ß
22:22 cait oy
22:22 cait your fur is red... so beautifuuul
22:21 cait lol
22:21 magnuse and guardian angels
22:21 talljoy clearly
22:20 talljoy heh
22:20 magnuse talljoy: yeah, we think of them as angels in disguise ;-)
22:20 talljoy are foxes sacred in norway magnuse?
22:20 wizzyrea I think the best bit is where the fox starts scat singing.
22:19 magnuse lol
22:19 cait hehe
22:19 talljoy oy
22:19 talljoy and speaking m-o-o-o-o-rse
22:19 cait but when he meets a friendly horse...
22:19 cait heh
22:19 talljoy yes
22:19 magnuse about foxes?
22:18 talljoy i am going to have nightmares now
22:17 cait of course
22:17 cait s
22:17 wahanui it has been said that that work is pretty complete now, i hope eythian and srdjan will get around to submitting a patch
22:17 cait that work
22:17 cait c is for cookie...
22:16 magnuse cait: blocked? too bad!
22:16 wahanui https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jofNR_WkoCE
22:16 cait what does the fox say?
22:16 magnuse found it ;-)
22:16 cait magnuse: blocked from here :( guess i am stuck with what does the fox say?
22:15 wizzyrea http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BovQyphS8kA
22:15 magnuse ?
22:15 wizzyrea totally better to get 'c is for cookie' stuck in your head.
22:14 wizzyrea lol.
22:14 magnuse we have tried to shield him from it, a bit
22:14 magnuse that is so last month! ;-)
22:14 * wizzyrea bets small-magnuse loves it
22:14 wizzyrea ring ding ding ding dingeringading
22:12 magnuse talking of which: my apologies for torturing y'all with "the fox". here's some norwegian music actually worth listening to: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0kv5RM0kABY and a video worth watching to boot!
22:11 magnuse nah, there's always a party on #koha!
22:10 pianohacker yeah, we're all leaving now
22:10 wizzyrea yeah, naw.
22:10 magnuse always!
22:09 cait did i miss a #koha party?
22:09 cait hi magnuse and pianohacker :)
22:09 wizzyrea this appeals to my literary spirit of course.
22:09 wizzyrea or "I'm a box of fluffy ducks!"
22:09 wizzyrea "how are you?" "i'm a box of birds!" did get me the first time
22:09 pianohacker ahahahahaha
22:09 wahanui hi cait! are you safely back in germany now?
22:09 magnuse hi cait!
22:08 wizzyrea forget hi cait!
22:08 cait hi wizzyrea
22:08 cait heh
22:08 wahanui cait: wish i knew
22:08 cait wahanui - yes?
22:08 wizzyrea !
22:08 cait hi talljoy :)
22:08 wahanui hi cait! are you safely back in germany now?
22:08 talljoy hi cait!
22:08 wizzyrea good natured teasing, of course. :)
22:08 cait hi
22:08 talljoy oh my
22:07 wizzyrea instead of innuhneht
22:07 wizzyrea in ter net
22:07 talljoy clearly?
22:07 wizzyrea pronounce
22:07 wizzyrea i got teased for an entire week about the way I prounce "internet"
22:07 pianohacker took a good minute or two to figure out what they even meant
22:07 pianohacker I remember talking to a couple of floridians that were very confused as to why I said "Coluhrado" instead of "Colorado"
22:05 wizzyrea wullington.
22:01 talljoy i may steal that 'no more beersies for you'
22:01 wizzyrea http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TZXlrkaYXkA
21:59 talljoy i have it growing on my back patio right now.
21:59 wizzyrea http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=srE57FURiZU
21:59 talljoy but i do love chard
21:59 talljoy mmmmm bok choi
21:59 jcamins :D
21:59 jcamins talljoy: bok choi for me, please!
21:59 wizzyrea yeah naw is a great kiwism
21:59 talljoy and getting extra chard in your order
21:58 * wizzyrea imagines you haxxoring them :)
21:58 jcamins Thankfully it requires a login.
21:58 wizzyrea oooo!
21:58 jcamins Hit escape twice, and it brings you to the config page.
21:58 wizzyrea "how you going?" "busy as!"
21:58 jcamins Ooh. I just found an easter egg in the site used by our farm.
21:57 wizzyrea and append any verb with "as"
21:57 talljoy that one confuses me.
21:57 wizzyrea and I might ask you how you're going, and answer you with "yeah... naw"
21:56 wizzyrea you might get the occasional "yiis" for "yes"
21:56 magnuse sweet as...
21:56 talljoy LOL
21:56 magnuse lol
21:56 wizzyrea nor do I have parties on my "dick"
21:56 magnuse wizzyrea: you don't call the place you sleep "biiiiid" yet?!?
21:56 wizzyrea :)
21:55 talljoy then if you ever come back stateside, you must be sure to order beef wellington at every meal
21:55 wizzyrea except for maybe the way I say "wellington"
21:55 * wizzyrea doesn't have much of a kiwi accent
21:55 talljoy opac
21:55 wizzyrea yea, is this for intranet or opac?
21:55 talljoy heh
21:55 talljoy and i didn't get it.
21:55 talljoy but you said it with a NZ accent
21:54 talljoy indeed.
21:54 wizzyrea we just said the same thing :)
21:54 talljoy for a library with floating collections where it is is more important than 'who technically owns it'
21:54 wizzyrea I suppose there's tension between knowing where it is and where it belongs
21:54 talljoy well it does and it doesn't.
21:53 wizzyrea hm that doesn't make a lot of sense, but is good to know
21:53 talljoy heh
21:53 wahanui interesting is sometimes good and sometimes bad
21:53 talljoy interesting
21:53 talljoy so that is holdingbranch then
21:53 talljoy awesome. thanks y'all
21:52 talljoy just saw that pesky tag in there.
21:52 jcamins That's correct.
21:52 wizzyrea 952b
21:51 wizzyrea I think it's in C4::Koha - getfacets
21:50 talljoy my initial tests point to homebranch like you say. but i'd like to verify
21:49 talljoy indeed. any clue what bit that would be in search.pm?
21:49 wizzyrea the code knows :P
21:49 talljoy we need a tie breaker ;-)
21:49 talljoy i've had one guess at holding and now one at home. split decision
21:49 wizzyrea jcamins might know better.
21:49 wizzyrea because that makes more sense than holdingbranch
21:49 * wizzyrea guesses homebranch
21:48 talljoy hey #koha i'm trying to narrow down the search 'facet' for library branch in the OPAC. Does that limit the results based on homebranch or holdingbranch?
21:44 pianohacker no prob, thanks for poking me to update it :)
21:43 wizzyrea <3
21:43 wizzyrea thanks <#
21:43 wizzyrea pianohacker++
21:43 pianohacker wizzyrea: http://github.com/pianohacker/koha.git should be up and running
21:43 wizzyrea :)
21:41 pianohacker fast lane woop woop
21:41 pianohacker 720 kbps woohah
21:39 wizzyrea I'm a bottomless pit of needs today ;)
21:39 pianohacker wizzyrea: one sec
21:38 wizzyrea the official one from github isn't totally up to date.
21:38 wizzyrea lol, pianohacker - which is your github?
21:17 wizzyrea pianohacker++ good idea cloning from github
21:13 pianohacker needed to update that anyway
21:13 pianohacker kk cool :)
21:12 wizzyrea pianohacker: thank you for the offer, I think mtj has a github that's up to date already
21:12 wizzyrea it definitely speaks http
21:11 wizzyrea hm I could try the github clone, that's a good point
21:11 jcamins Or, more likely, I don't remember the secret handshake.
21:11 wizzyrea or I'm doing something wrong (probably more likely)
21:11 pianohacker wizzyrea: I can happily update my github real quick if need be
21:11 wizzyrea cool, that means it must have changed at some point
21:11 jcamins Because I had a server that was firewalled against git, but would allow me to clone with http.
21:10 wizzyrea righty-o. ping gmcharlt
21:10 jcamins At the very least, it used to work.
21:10 wizzyrea and that's the one I need to clone to, naturally.
21:10 * wizzyrea has a server that doesn't allow traffic on git:// but definitely does on http
21:10 jcamins Hm. Then I'm not sure.
21:09 wizzyrea our = koha-community's
21:09 wizzyrea naw, I meant this channel :)
21:09 wizzyrea hm, it just hangs.
21:09 jcamins I think you just replace git:// with http://, but I'm not sure.
21:08 * wizzyrea tries it from a different machine
21:08 wizzyrea i'd been having trouble with http
21:08 jcamins Unless you mean to be asking that on a different channel, in which case I have no idea.
21:08 wizzyrea (and is the url the same on either protocol?)
21:08 jcamins Both are supposed to work.
21:08 wizzyrea can you clone from our git repo via http? or only git://
19:59 * chris_n is out of the office more than in lately
19:58 wahanui well, pianohacker is a Dune fan, it seems.
19:58 chris_n heya pianohacker
19:57 pianohacker chris_n: Hey there. Been a while
19:56 mrenvoize Evening pianohacker
19:56 chris_n quite
19:56 jcamins chris_n: amazing, isn't it?
19:55 * chris_n thanks jcamins for pointing him toward yerba mate
19:55 pianohacker heya mrenvoize
19:55 mtompset Haven't gotten very far.
19:54 mrenvoize How's it going
19:54 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10003 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Needs Signoff , koha-* scripts (packages) should provide tab-completion in bash
19:54 mrenvoize Sounds like your testing bug 10003.. Funnily enough I was also about to start playing with that.
19:50 mtompset tcohen: Didn't you handle the library listing problem?
19:46 mtompset tcohen: I just go to the point where I can test again...
19:28 mtompset AH HA! I had to sudo apt-get install bash-completion in the build environment.
18:45 talljoy all the rain seems to be east and south of me and down your way
18:45 talljoy i imagine so.
18:45 druthb Just enough to make the city emergency management people a little edgy.
18:45 mtompset It was -4 the other night.
18:45 huginn talljoy: The current temperature in Cedar Creek Townhomes, Benbrook, Texas is 21.5°C (1:42 PM CDT on October 30, 2013). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 88%. Dew Point: 19.0°C. Pressure: 29.97 in 1015 hPa (Falling).
18:45 talljoy @wunder 76109
18:45 huginn mtompset: The current temperature in Toronto Pearson Int'L. Ont., Ontario is 10.0°C (2:00 PM EDT on October 30, 2013). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 55%. Dew Point: 4.0°C. Pressure: 30.20 in 1023 hPa (Falling).
18:45 mtompset @wunder l7e 5y5
18:45 talljoy golly
18:44 druthb we're expecting up to 2" in the next 24 hours.
18:44 talljoy eek
18:44 talljoy we are drizzly here. but so far no bayou flooding called for in the Fort.
18:44 druthb "Localized street and bayou flooding."
18:43 druthb off and on, talljoy. We're supposed to get *really* soaked tomorrow.
18:43 trea ha! probably so magnuse
18:43 talljoy you still have rain in houston druthb?
18:43 magnuse or did you use up the summer weather for the next x years last summer?
18:42 magnuse :-)
18:42 huginn druthb: The current temperature in Greenway Plaza, Houston, Texas is 25.6°C (1:42 PM CDT on October 30, 2013). Conditions: Rain. Humidity: 97%. Dew Point: 25.0°C. Pressure: 29.92 in 1013 hPa (Falling).
18:42 druthb @wunder 77098
18:42 trea yeah, suppose to :P
18:42 magnuse trea: aren't you supposed to be approaching summer?
18:42 trea which is putting a cramp in my trick or treating plans later
18:42 trea indeed. we're seeing a patch of that as well today
18:42 druthb brr
18:42 magnuse but apart from that its not too bad :-)
18:41 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 5.0°C (7:20 PM CET on October 30, 2013). Conditions: Light Rain Showers. Humidity: 87%. Dew Point: 3.0°C. Windchill: -2.0°C. Pressure: 29.42 in 996 hPa (Steady).
18:41 magnuse @wunder boo
18:41 magnuse and wet. and cold.
18:41 magnuse windy!
18:41 trea how's Norway today?
18:41 trea kia ora magnuse
18:40 kivilahtio hmm
18:40 kivilahtio Search the catalog?
18:40 magnuse kia ora trea!
18:40 kivilahtio where do I type this rcn,st-numeric>1000 ?
18:39 kivilahtio how do I make CCL queries in Koha?
18:39 talljoy lol
18:39 talljoy that rt joke went flat - helps if i type it in the right window.
18:38 talljoy :-D
18:38 talljoy or rt time.
18:38 talljoy egad moving 440 to 490/830 on aarome. and it is taking forever. must be on italian time
18:37 mtompset I don't have packages installed on my git machine.
18:37 mtompset that's not working?
18:33 tcohen git checkout origin/master -b qa_10003 ; git bz apply 10003 ; . debian/koha-common.bash-completion ; test
18:29 mtompset grab new file?
18:28 magnuse mtompset++
18:24 tcohen to inject it to your env
18:24 tcohen you already tested the file is included/installed, just grab the new file and use . file
18:23 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10003 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Needs Signoff , koha-* scripts (packages) should provide tab-completion in bash
18:23 mtompset so, tcohen, if I build a .deb from master+bug 10003, then try testing, it should work now?
18:22 tcohen i managed to run the tests but they all seem to fail
18:21 tcohen is it easy to test SIP related patcheS?
18:19 * rangi has to make breakfast for kids now, bbiab
18:18 rangi cool
18:17 mtompset I obsoleted my signed off version, with the comment as to why I did so, and then unobsoleted the unsigned version.
18:17 rangi (the qa tools are really not very stringent at all, most fails are just an accident and easy to fix)
18:16 rangi that at least gives me a cahnce to fix it
18:16 rangi personally i would much prefer an early fail, than a patch that sits for ages :)
18:16 jcamins I can confirm that, from my experience as RM.
18:15 rangi cos then someone else will just do the same thing
18:14 rangi but seriously, people have limited time, about the worst thing you can do is find a problem, not fail it, and not comment
18:14 tcohen yes, of course, don't sign on it
18:14 rangi or leave it needs signoff
18:13 rangi and fail it
18:13 tcohen and contact the developer directly for minor tweaks he/she might do
18:13 tcohen if you take the time to test, please test the funtionality if you can
18:13 mtompset woo hoo! fail them all! ;)
18:13 rangi anyone in the world can fail a patch
18:12 rangi no
18:12 rambutan but only a QA person can fail a patch, right
18:12 rangi and qa people do (and most defintely should) check functionality too
18:12 mtompset True... but this was an after thought, while testing a secondary patch in a 4 patch series.
18:12 rangi if you dont know, thats fine
18:12 rangi that just wastes everyones time
18:12 rangi don't sign off on something you know is going to fail qa
18:11 rangi if the qa tools report throws errors definitely mark it failed qa, unless you are going to fix them yourself
18:11 mtompset Well, the my hiding the scope inside of the little test is inconsequentially, really.
18:11 tcohen for people writing large pieces of code it is not helpful to start polishing that
18:11 tcohen mtompset: i would first test the patch functionality, then comment about that AND maybe about the qa tools report
18:11 magnuse it should all be there ^
18:10 wahanui workflow is described at http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Bug-enhancement-patch_Workflow
18:10 magnuse workflow?
18:10 rambutan trying to recall Paul's (and Brendan's) presentation
18:10 magnuse yep, any problems with a patch results in failed qa
18:10 rangi why waste the qa teams time
18:10 rangi yes
18:09 mtompset does it make sense to jump from needs signoff to failed qa?!
18:09 rambutan so QA (should?) comes before signoff?
18:09 magnuse mtompset: it's never too late to fail qa ;-)
18:08 mtompset oh shoot. I should have run the qa-test-tool on the patch before signing off. DOH!
17:59 rambutan somehow, though my computer didn't lose power, my nick spontaneously changed
17:59 mtompset saan?
17:58 rambutan mtompset: we had quite a thunderstorm for a short period of time--it just gooshed rain, and we had a power outage, so I was running around checking equipment
17:47 tcohen np
17:46 mtompset I'm just about to finish signing off the second unsigned piece.
17:46 mtompset I switched to 9788.
17:46 mtompset Haven't had a chance to play further, sorry.
17:45 tcohen did it work mtompset ?
17:24 mtompset http://youtu.be/HPIos2mXbUE (Who am I? Les Mis)
17:23 kivilahtio nice to meet you Jean!
17:23 kivilahtio awsum!
17:22 kivilahtio lol I got the child records to show!
17:21 wahanui Jean Valjean!
17:21 jcamins whoami?
17:19 reiveune1 bye
17:17 kivilahtio macros?
17:17 kivilahtio whoami
17:12 mtompset rambutan: whoami? You have some identity crisis? :)
17:08 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9822 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , No alert appears on adding an order to a basket if the budget has exceeded
17:08 jenkins_koha Jonathan Druart: Bug 9822: Alert on adding an order to a basket if budget s exceeded
17:08 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #1485: STILL UNSTABLE in 1 hr 47 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/1485/
17:08 rambutan whoami
16:48 kivilahtio ccl.properties defines the title-sort-az as a valid parameter but no idea how to call it
16:45 kivilahtio CCL manual @ http://www.indexdata.com/yaz/doc/tools.html#CCL is pretty tight on how these sort options are called
16:45 kivilahtio But I get no results
16:45 kivilahtio my ($error, $childRecordISOs, $resultSetSize) = C4::Search::SimpleSearch("rcn=$biblionumber title-sort-az");
16:45 kivilahtio C4::Search::SimpleSearch takes a CCL query, but I don't know how to correctly call the sort argument: I am trying this and some other permutations:
16:23 kivilahtio thanks jcamins!
16:23 kivilahtio but child record is a good one
16:22 kivilahtio it's not analytics for sure
16:22 kivilahtio ok
16:22 jcamins I don't know. Maybe "child record," since we use that in other places.
16:21 kivilahtio and whatnot naming monsters can be found
16:21 kivilahtio so i dont go mixing up book with item and item with title
16:21 kivilahtio or when naming variables, I need to know the proper terms
16:21 kivilahtio but when i name HTML elements
16:20 jcamins They're all librarian-only terms. No patron is going to be able to underestand them.
16:19 kivilahtio And I have a feeling there is a lot of ambuguity about those terms
16:19 kivilahtio but haven't heard it used anywhere else
16:19 kivilahtio our english to finnish bibliographic dictionary says they are Component Parts
16:19 kivilahtio or child records?
16:19 kivilahtio or component records?
16:18 kivilahtio or are they component parts
16:18 kivilahtio Should I call records linked via 773w -> 001 as analyitc records, if there are no items attached?
16:17 kivilahtio jcamins: I mean he finished it
16:17 jcamins Yeah, I noticed that.
16:17 kivilahtio jcamins: so I am just happy to know that things can be translated. Pasi did the OPAC I believe
16:16 jcamins Actually, Finnish is a lot farther along than I'd realized.
16:16 kivilahtio jcamins: I can't deal with everything on my own
16:16 kivilahtio jcamins: Pasi is responsible for the translations is is currently pretty pissed off :)
16:15 jcamins Ah.
16:15 kivilahtio I hope I don't haveto dig into translating
16:15 kivilahtio I am just happy to know that it can be translated and there are no code inside the translatable strings
16:14 jcamins You're going to have to. If you want something translated, it has to be done through Pootle.
16:13 kivilahtio I'm nottouching that :)
16:13 jcamins ^^ that may help you to see what's translated in the XSLT.
16:13 kivilahtio jcamins: I hope not :)
16:13 wahanui somebody said pootle was http://translate.koha-community.org/
16:13 jcamins pootle?
16:13 jcamins translate?
16:12 jcamins You can, unless you are doing something "clever."
16:10 kivilahtio even from the XSLT templates
16:10 kivilahtio can I just trust the translationtool to catch these barewords?
16:10 kivilahtio this Publisher is displayed in the OPAC
16:10 huginn rambutan: The current temperature in Wyatt Park, St Joseph, Missouri is 16.5°C (11:10 AM CDT on October 30, 2013). Conditions: Heavy Thunderstorms and Rain. Humidity: 97%. Dew Point: 16.0°C. Pressure: 29.87 in 1011 hPa (Steady). Severe Thunderstorm Watch 549 in effect until 5 PM CDT this afternoon...
16:10 rambutan @wunder 64507
16:10 kivilahtio <xsl:with-param name="label">Publisher: </xsl:with-param>
16:09 kivilahtio how are the XSLT templates localized?
16:05 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9822 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , No alert appears on adding an order to a basket if the budget has exceeded
16:05 jenkins_koha Jonathan Druart: Bug 9822: Alert on adding an order to a basket if budget s exceeded
16:05 jenkins_koha Project master_maria build #192: STILL UNSTABLE in 48 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/master_maria/192/
16:02 mtompset There... CPL, and Holds.t runs just fine.
16:02 Joubu marcelr: discussionhad to be launched in a topic sent to koha-devel (date:Â June 4 2013 16:53 objet:Â Where are we on unit tests?). But no answer...
16:01 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9788 minor, P5 - low, ---, m.de.rooy, Needs Signoff , Improvements for calling GetReservesFromItemnumber
16:01 marcelr mtompset: thanks for looking into bug 9788; have to go now
16:00 mtompset Yes, what does the status "In Discussion" mean then?
16:00 marcelr you could change the status, you mean?
15:59 Joubu marcelr: no discussion...
15:58 marcelr what is the discussion? joubu
15:58 marcelr good report
15:58 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10337 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, In Discussion , UT: The unit tests cannot be launched by everyone
15:58 Joubu mtompset: bug 10337
15:58 Joubu mtompset: I made a script for creating a new db with sample data. Sample data are required (at least at the moment) for launching ut
15:57 marcelr and mpl
15:57 mtompset I'll temporarily add that.
15:57 marcelr if you just add a cpl to your db, you will have less problems
15:57 mtompset MPL.
15:57 marcelr the reserves.t checks for it, holds.t does not
15:57 marcelr yeah it is adding items to cpl
15:56 marcelr etc
15:56 marcelr cpl mpl etx
15:56 mtompset Goodness! That's probably it.
15:56 marcelr stumbled over that more times already
15:56 marcelr some unit tests assume some branch codes
15:56 marcelr branch does not exist?
15:55 mtompset ideas about what is wrong, marcelr?
15:55 pastebot "mtompset" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "Ideas, marcelr?" (21 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/254
15:55 gaetan_B bye !
15:54 mtompset The holds.t is boming big time.
15:54 mtompset Oh sucky.
15:53 mtompset Well, the test portion ran. :)
15:51 marcelr yeah
15:51 mtompset I guess that is to be expected.
15:51 mtompset considering I have no circulation rules, and this is basically a default install.
15:50 marcelr prefs or circ rules..
15:49 marcelr it works for me
15:49 marcelr looks like this test is depending on some other prefs too, i guess
15:47 mtompset I don't think it is related to your test.
15:47 marcelr let me look; it is not my test?
15:47 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10272 critical, P5 - low, ---, kyle.m.hall, Pushed to Stable , CheckReserves returns not respecting ReservesControlBranch
15:47 mtompset not ok 7 - restrictive library's items only fill requests by own patrons (bug 10272)
15:47 marcelr test 7
15:47 mtompset Hmmm... I just tried a prove -v t/db_dependent/Reserves.t test, and test 7 failed.
15:46 marcelr but it still is a good question
15:46 mtompset That's the part I missed. :)
15:46 marcelr so nothing is changed
15:45 marcelr mtompset: there is a rollback in the test
15:45 mtompset Whew. sometimes it is good to make a mistake. :)
15:44 mtompset Oops... I missed the lines not in the patch. ;)
15:44 pastebot "mtompset" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "Don't these change the system preference permanently?" (2 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/253
15:43 marcelr mtompset: what is your question?
15:43 marcelr yes?
15:43 mtompset marcelr: I've been reading the code, since I read code better than run things I'm unfamiliar with... I have a question about your test.
15:40 tcohen bbl,
15:40 tcohen test this one
15:39 tcohen it doesn't contain the substract method for already used instances
15:35 mtompset Let me know when you have it fixed.
15:35 mtompset Ah. Okay.
15:34 tcohen mtompset: i noticed my patch was wip, wasn't the right version
15:30 marcelr place a hold=run opac-reserve.pl
15:30 marcelr this is a learning opportunity :)
15:30 mtompset And therein is my problem.
15:29 marcelr but you should know something of holds
15:28 marcelr mtompset: not that much
15:28 mtompset marcelr: I fear the nine step plan probably has various sub-steps which I, knowing nothing of library things, probably wouldn't be able to figure out.
15:26 mtompset Yes, that would make more sense.
15:26 tcohen and have koha-* --{disable|enable}
15:26 tcohen i'd remove all the koha-{disable|enable}-* commands at all
15:25 marcelr kill -15 ;)
15:24 mtompset I was looking at the list of commands you have for bash completion... We have a koha-enable-sip, but we don't have a koha-disable-sip?!
15:23 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9788 minor, P5 - low, ---, m.de.rooy, Needs Signoff , Improvements for calling GetReservesFromItemnumber
15:23 marcelr does anyone see a chance to test bug 9788; run two unit tests and follow a nine-step test plan ?
15:23 mtompset Regardless of enabled or not, it always lists library.
15:22 mtompset I don't think that is the problem.
15:21 tcohen let me swap them and re-send
15:20 jenkins_koha Starting build #1485 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #1481 22 hr ago)
15:20 mtompset i.e. koha-disable lists library.
15:20 mtompset Mmm.... disabled library, and got the same problem with koha-disable.
15:19 tcohen otherwise every iteration takes months
15:18 tcohen it would be handy that you could sumarize what works and what doesn't so I finish polishing it
15:18 mtompset The removal of --help when -h is already on command line, nice.
15:18 mtompset The removal of opposite flags, nice.
15:18 mtompset But I like the tab completion testing I did for koha-list. :)
15:17 tcohen thansk
15:17 mtompset Yes.
15:17 tcohen and sudo koha-enable <tab> incorrectly shows 'library'
15:17 jenkins_koha Starting build #192 for job master_maria (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #174 8 days 8 hr ago)
15:16 mtompset Yes.
15:16 tcohen so library is enabled
15:16 mtompset sudo makes the permission denied error go away, same results.
15:16 mtompset permission denied followed by nothing.
15:16 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 9822: Alert on adding an order to a basket if budget s exceeded <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=ea3b5aad217fa38d6f35738e9d049597bf1faa8a>
15:16 tcohen ok, can u use sudo in front of is?
15:15 tcohen and also `koha-list --disabled`
15:15 mtompset permission denied, followed by library.
15:15 tcohen what does `koha-list --enabled` say?
15:15 mtompset What do you suggest I check to see where that is coming from?
15:14 mtompset I'm getting "library", which is my one instance.
15:14 tcohen nothing
15:14 mtompset tcohen: What should I expect when I try to bash complete koha-enable and all the instances are enabled?
15:13 pastebot "mtompset" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "Testing 10003 question" (8 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/252
14:57 tcohen from sysprefs.sql and the yaml files, comparing to the DB
14:57 tcohen of course it will be calculated
14:56 mtompset +infinity. ;)
14:56 tcohen missing, obsolete, wrong values
14:56 tcohen i'm working on sysprefs
14:55 mtompset What kind of inconsistencies would it catch, tcohen?
14:46 gmcharlt +1
14:41 * tcohen always struggles when starting from scratch
14:41 tcohen thx
14:40 ashimema tcohen.. sounds like a good idea to me.
14:38 druthb +1
14:38 tcohen does this make sense at all Koha::Util::SystemCheck ? it will contain stuff for checking system consistency
14:36 * druthb takes the blue pill
14:35 magnuse you can never log out - we are all trapped in the matrix...
14:34 druthb need a cookie-shredder to actually really log out.
14:34 huginn rambuten: The current temperature in Wyatt Park, St Joseph, Missouri is 15.3°C (9:34 AM CDT on October 30, 2013). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 97%. Dew Point: 15.0°C. Pressure: 29.88 in 1012 hPa (Falling).
14:34 rambuten @wunder 64507
14:29 mtompset oleonard: That doesn't mean they haven't signed you out. I just means they are tracking your userid. :P
14:28 * oleonard notices these things because he doesn't like being tracked by Google
14:27 oleonard If you click "sign out" from GMail you're redirected to a sign in form where it remembers your login but asks only for a password
14:26 mtompset What do you mean it doesn't sign you out?
14:25 jcamins It doesn't? I never use that button.
14:23 oleonard I notice "sign out" from GMail doesn't really sign you out anymore either
14:20 jcamins Oh. I didn't try it.
14:20 oleonard Then you have to click a little "sign in" link in the corner.
14:19 oleonard No, it goes the the "sign up" page with a giant slideshow of reason to join the google hive
14:18 jcamins oleonard: doesn't mail.google.com go to the Gmail login screen if you're not logged in?
14:16 gmcharlt heh
13:51 * oleonard doesn't recall kf getting permission to leave early
13:51 kf bye all
13:41 druthb lol
13:41 wahanui i heard trouble was it seems to always give a false positive on a few fields
13:41 kf trouble!!
13:41 kf you don't know what you are asking for :)
13:38 wahanui Well, she finally snapped, like we all knew she would.
13:38 magnuse druthb!
13:30 druthb moar Germans!
13:25 kf yep
13:23 druthb seems to be a drojf shortage hereabouts.
13:23 kf i hope he didn't
13:22 kf hmm.
13:22 huginn kf: drojf was last seen in #koha 6 days, 1 hour, 9 minutes, and 10 seconds ago: <drojf> hm. looks like i seriously broke something
13:22 kf @seen drojf
13:22 huginn kf: I have not seen drofj.
13:22 kf @seen drofj
13:22 kf druthb!
13:22 kf druthb1
13:22 druthb tcohen! magnuse! kf!
13:22 magnuse s/hla/hola/
13:22 magnuse hla tcohen
13:18 kivilahtio hi tcohen
13:17 tcohen hi #koha
13:16 ashimema yup.. lots of conflicts.. poor Julian has rebased it for me once today already..
13:14 kf cnflicts?
13:14 kf it doesn't?
13:10 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8993 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, julian.maurice, Needs Signoff , LDAP authentication improvements: multiple branch and transformation modules
13:10 ashimema bug 8993
13:10 ashimema ack.. this bug really doesn't want me to test it today.
13:10 ashimema indeed.. :)
13:09 kf ashimema: great team, eh? :)
13:09 kivilahtio song of my day : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b1-_XPWixSw
13:08 kivilahtio are you having fun?
13:08 kivilahtio it's fun
13:08 kivilahtio I just rolled the Koha zebra indexes O_o
13:06 magnuse that's just how we roll :-)
13:05 ashimema wow.. kf and magnuse are on a role here.. ;)
13:04 kivilahtio kf: magnuse: roger that
13:03 kf and it needs a rebase because of conflicts
13:03 magnuse ...so you can't even test it
13:03 kf yep
13:02 magnuse "patch doesnt apply" is only for when git refuses to apply the patch
13:02 kf else the developer might get grumpy :)
13:02 kf but of course only do so after noting why :)
13:02 magnuse what she says :-)
13:02 magnuse anyone can fail QA
13:02 kf everyone can - it means that the patch needs more work
13:02 kf you can always fail qa
13:01 kivilahtio kf: it hasnt passed the sign off phase so I don't think I can alter the QA state
13:01 kivilahtio kf: or patch doesnt apply?
13:01 kivilahtio kf: so failed QA?
13:01 kf it hoguth one note read like a problem, but ihaven't taken a look at the whole feature yet
13:01 kf because else they won't get fixed :)
13:00 kivilahtio kf: Ok, ill do that now
13:00 kf then you shoudl fail it
13:00 kivilahtio kf: I didn't sign off because the patch had issues
13:00 kivilahtio kf: I thought you sign off pathes by doing git bz -singoff
13:00 kivilahtio kf: it was just my test result :) what should I have done?
12:59 kf but was not sure if it was a sign off or a fail from one of the notes
12:59 kivilahtio kf: that's not much
12:59 kf i saw your comments on rotating collections
12:59 kivilahtio kf: thanks for the help anyway
12:58 kivilahtio kf: too bad I don't know if we are going to proceed with Koha yet or not so I am kinda struggling to get as much done as possible
12:58 kivilahtio kf: I know
12:58 kf kivilahtio: it helps when you sign off on other people's patches too ;)
12:57 kivilahtio ashimema: I'll hold on to that :)
12:56 ashimema You build the patch.. I'll happily test it ;)
12:55 kivilahtio magnuse: working on that. If just someone would sign them off :D
12:54 magnuse patches welcome ;- )
12:54 kivilahtio I think it should be part of the core Koha distribution out of box
12:54 kivilahtio kf: I am just really surprised that even if you have all the functionality to add more child records, there is no way to effectively display them from the parent?
12:53 kivilahtio kf: I'll try to figure this out. Ajax is a extra layer of complexity, and it adds more load for apache2 than non-ajax
12:53 kf i haven't done any ajaxy things myself yet
12:53 kivilahtio kf: ok
12:53 kf there is some in koha, but nothing for search yet i think
12:51 kivilahtio kf: Do you have any code I could study for the ajax request?
12:51 kivilahtio kf: But I'll see what I cook up
12:51 kivilahtio kf: imho ajax is always pretty complex
12:51 kivilahtio kf: but you have to make zebra searches afterward for ajax
12:49 kf not sure about your idea, you woul dhave to make another zebra search i guess, before you can embed data
12:48 kf the page load would not be affected
12:48 kf kivilahtio: as it's ajax it should not matter if it takes a moment longe than the page load
12:45 kivilahtio jcamins: thanks !
12:45 * jcamins goes to be productive.
12:45 kivilahtio jcamins: yeah that might be a pain
12:45 jcamins Not easily. You might want to read through the Zebra documentation.
12:44 jcamins I suppose you could, if you really want to.
12:44 kivilahtio could I index an aggregate value to a zebra index? like the record id from 001, and the record title ?
12:43 kivilahtio to include a check for bibliographic children?
12:43 kivilahtio Why can't i just patch the XSLTParse4Display() ?
12:43 jcamins Wait, you want to embed the entire child record? I thought you wanted a list of titles.
12:43 kivilahtio if more than n
12:42 kivilahtio jcamins: So only show part of the child records?
12:42 kivilahtio well it is a problem regardless
12:42 jcamins kivilahtio: no, AJAX the resultset.
12:42 kivilahtio Imagine a record with 100 child records. Ajax all of them?
12:41 kivilahtio kf: then the child record details can be fleshed out if they are found, this is way faster than ajax
12:41 kivilahtio kf: should be zero performance hit for a single index search
12:41 kivilahtio kf: make a zebra query for the 773w index, if it has the same 001-value as the record in question
12:40 kivilahtio the xslt template gets extra variables from these two places
12:40 kf e
12:40 kf kivilahtio: not sure how much of a performance killer that might b
12:40 kivilahtio my $xmlrecord = $record->as_xml(C4::Context->preference('marcflavour'));
12:40 kivilahtio my $itemsxml = buildKohaItemsNamespace($biblionumber, $hidden_items);
12:40 kivilahtio in XSLTParse4Display()
12:40 jcamins Use AJAX.
12:40 kivilahtio what if I add the analytic children's titles to the parent record for the xslt processing duration?
12:39 kf well using ajax and replacing the link with a list or similar, but we haven't done that yet
12:39 magnuse yeah, ajax might be an option
12:39 jcamins kivilahtio: I think you might be mistaken.
12:39 kf there are different ways you could do that, like using an ajax search
12:39 kivilahtio kf: I think adding that might be pretty easy, I am just looking ionto how the XSLT-templates are processed, doesn't look too bad
12:39 magnuse kf: not so easy to pull in the actual titles of the child records, into the parent record
12:39 kf yes, because the parend does not know it has children
12:39 kf what we don't have (because our records are from a union catalog) is a link from the host to the analytic item
12:38 kivilahtio kf: but you don't list the titles of child records in the parent record detailed view?
12:38 kf htat would be easy to customize
12:38 kf koha will do that for serial records right nw
12:38 kf what we do is display a link: show analytics
12:38 kivilahtio kf: damn my expalantions ;)
12:38 kivilahtio kf: display analytic record children in the host biblio details
12:38 kf yeah, but i still don't understand :)
12:38 kivilahtio kf: look a bit higher, 10 rows
12:38 kf sorry, quite busy here, might have missed it
12:37 kf kivilahtio: what do you want to do?
12:37 kivilahtio IF I am processing XSLT-templates, is the only way to add extra-record fields by altering the XSLTParse4Display to pull extra data from Zebra to the xml-record?
12:29 kivilahtio kf: can you give me a hint from where to start looking for a solution?
12:29 kivilahtio kf: It is just a matter of displaying those index results
12:29 kivilahtio kf: afaik, 773w is already indexed as a search index in Zebra
12:28 kivilahtio kf: Any ideas if I wanted to show the analytic children a analytic record has, should I modify the xslt-templates or do I need to make a extra Zebra search for records containing hte 773w analytic link?
12:24 marcelr hi mtompset
12:23 mtompset Greetings, marcelr oleonard. :)
12:21 marcelr hi #koha
12:19 mtompset Greetings, magnuse.
12:19 magnuse hiya mtompset
12:10 mtompset Greetings, #koha.
10:54 huginn kf: The operation succeeded.
10:54 kf @later tell oleonard - can you maybe take a look at bug 5031?
10:16 kivilahtio kf: agreed
10:13 kf Koha is not so bad even I think, at least it seemed a lot simpler than Horizon in the database structure
10:13 petter anyway, we must first discuss with our libraries what use cases they have
10:12 petter kf: ok, I'm begining to realize that. It looks quite messy!
10:12 magnuse wow, i'm properly confused by the memcached configs now
10:09 kf petter: there are standards in MARC, but Koha and lots of other ILS don't follow them. I think serials is always a bit of a problematic migration - no mater what the ILS are
10:08 kivilahtio I mean really need them for other stuff than making the predictions
10:07 kivilahtio magnuse: hopefully Koha doesn't really need them
10:07 kivilahtio But I have gut feeling faking the serial prediction patterns might be hard
10:06 magnuse that sounds like a good starting point
10:06 kivilahtio magnuse: I was planning to use the C4::Serials module
10:04 magnuse here is one example: https://gitorious.org/koha-migration-toolbox/koha-migration-toolbox/source/de548e83f516bbdb27e97055db7be6771da1a615:migration/Millenium/serials_loader.pl it might at least be interesting to see which db tables are involved etc
10:03 petter sorry, can't type
10:03 magnuse hehe
10:03 petter googling?
10:03 petter googing
10:03 petter ok, I'll do some gooling first!
10:02 magnuse or ask for tips and tricks related to serials on the mailing lists
10:02 magnuse ask druthb_away when she show up - she has done lots of migrations
10:02 magnuse dunno :-/
10:01 petter I mean, is there even a serial marc standard?
10:01 petter magnus: so is there no standard import method for serials?
10:00 magnuse petter: i think it is just a question of getting the data and formatting them as items
10:00 petter luckily its not me!
10:00 petter someone has to decide what direction we are going
09:59 petter but its a question of leadership
09:59 petter its hard to let them go
09:59 petter hehe, everyone has their darlings
09:59 petter olli: yepp, will do
09:59 kivilahtio petter: We have some VERY passionatel serials people here
09:59 petter do some spring cleaning!
09:59 kivilahtio petter: talk with your serials cataloguers
09:58 petter yea, maybe we can just skip it!
09:58 petter i dont even know what serial history records are
09:58 kivilahtio but quite frankly I don't understand what the big deal with migrating Serials is atm, but I think I will soon find out :)
09:58 kivilahtio or thats what I heard
09:58 kivilahtio petter: In koha it is easy to impor the serial history records
09:57 petter our serials are not for check-out, so hardly anyone look at them
09:57 petter OK, i think i need to talk to our cataloguers first, about who, if any, actually uses the serials module
09:54 petter ah, thanks
09:54 kivilahtio magnuse: the serial names change occaionally so it is pretty hard to merge multiple bibliographic records which deal with the same subscription
09:54 magnuse might be some nice things in there
09:54 wahanui migration toolbox is https://gitorious.org/koha-migration-toolbox
09:54 magnuse migration toolbox?
09:54 kivilahtio magnuse: for us merging the serial numbers is hard
09:54 * magnuse is perfectly happy writing his migration tools in perl
09:53 petter yeah, we couldnt get the perl:marc module to work so we, or Benjamin actually, did the conversion script in ruby
09:53 kivilahtio but little did I know back then
09:53 kivilahtio I should have never started writing my migration scripts with Perl :(
09:52 kivilahtio because for larger projects Java is way better
09:52 kivilahtio the Serials part and all the newer pieces are made with Groovy/JAva
09:52 magnuse i might have to try my hand at importing some serials from BIBSYS soonish, so i'll be interested in sharing experiences
09:52 kivilahtio but I can send you the tar if you want
09:52 kivilahtio petter: They are for our Finnish ILS PallasPro
09:51 kivilahtio and extremely complex
09:51 kivilahtio and undocumented
09:51 kivilahtio petter: no i dont unfortunatelym since they are a huge mess
09:51 petter as an inspiration:)
09:50 petter Olli, do you share your import-scripts somewhere?
09:50 kivilahtio I am looking forward to solving the serials migration in Koha
09:49 kivilahtio the serials thing is very complex
09:49 kivilahtio petter: I started to migrate them to Evergreen, but there were some functional limitations in EG I couldn't figure out
09:49 magnuse hehe
09:49 petter yea, its quite a mystery in bibliofil as well , and I dont think anyone uses it much
09:48 magnuse but i'm not quite sure how it plays along with the periodicals module and subscriptions there...
09:48 magnuse but if you just import issues as items it should not be too different from importing other items, i think
09:47 magnuse petter: i don't think i have done it
09:47 kivilahtio but then I'll look into serials. But be aware that importing serials IS A HUGE TASK and supposedly it can't be done
09:47 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8836 new feature, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Signed Off , Resurrect Rotating Collections
09:47 kivilahtio petter: I can write a scirpt to do that, first I sign off bug 8836
09:46 kivilahtio petter: I am about to go importing serials
09:46 petter magnus: har du importert periodika? er det bare å bruke bulkmarcimport?
09:46 petter i first need some serials in order to test 111129
09:45 magnuse "i'll sign off this for you if you sign off this for me"
09:45 magnuse or you can try to trade signoffs
09:45 petter I'm actually just now looking at importing serials, so as soon as I get it done, I can actually test your patch olli!
09:44 magnuse basically you just have to wait for someone to want to sign off
09:44 magnuse guess we should have one soon, to squash some bugs before 3.14 freezes
09:44 petter the easy ones is quickly signed off, but more complicated remains
09:44 magnuse we have the odd bug squashing day, but the last few have not created a lot of activity
09:44 petter it was like that at the hackfest
09:43 kivilahtio Is there a sign-off day when everyone just runs aroundsigning off stuff?
09:42 kivilahtio How are sign offs generally achieved here?
09:42 kivilahtio anyone interested in signoffs?
09:41 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11129 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Needs Signoff , Filtering Items based on type in opac-detail.pl
09:41 kivilahtio bug 11129 is complete and its dependencies
09:41 kivilahtio phew finally
09:10 magnuse done: http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Debian_packages_script_library
09:04 kf hi magnuse :)
09:03 magnuse kia ora kf
09:02 kf hello #koha
08:54 magnuse i'll create one
08:53 magnuse yup
08:53 kivilahtio a script library
08:52 kivilahtio magnuse: sounds likea good idea
08:50 * magnuse wonders if there would be any interest in a wiki page for small scripts that build on the commands provided by the packages
08:38 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10725 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , Add filters on the pending orders table
08:38 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10078 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, dcook, Pushed to Master , show location facet for all
08:38 jenkins_koha * Jonathan Druart: Bug 10725: Add filters on the pending orders table
08:38 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: Bug 10078: (follow-up) add regression test
08:38 jenkins_koha * David Cook: Bug 10078: show location facet regardless of singleBranchMode setting
08:38 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #1484: STILL UNSTABLE in 1 hr 53 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/1484/
08:38 wahanui privet, gaetan_B
08:38 gaetan_B hello
08:33 magnuse morn morn
08:29 petter go morn
08:29 petter hei magnus!
08:27 magnuse kia ora petter!
08:04 magnuse memcached config fixed, now i can look forward to watching how it plays out...
07:34 magnuse and they are not in /tmp
07:32 magnuse nope, looks like the session tables are empty
07:31 wahanui hello, reiveune1
07:31 reiveune1 hello
07:31 rangi not sure, easy way to find out tho :)
07:30 magnuse but i set sessions to be stored in memcached - does that mean they are defaulting to the database? hm...
07:26 rangi :)
07:23 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10733 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Pushed to Master , Memcached on package installs
07:23 magnuse so hooray for bug 10733!
07:21 magnuse wow, looks like i got the memcached config all wrong - i thought it was done in the apache configs...
07:21 magnuse kia ora rangi!
07:21 rangi hi magnuse
07:15 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7131 new feature, P3, ---, kyle.m.hall, Pushed to Master , way to overlay items in in marc import
07:15 magnuse bug 7131
07:14 * magnuse waves
06:45 jenkins_koha Starting build #1484 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #1481 14 hr ago)
06:45 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: Bug 7131: (follow-up) update the command-line import tools
06:45 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: Bug 7131: (follow-up) update DBIx::Class schema classes
06:45 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7131 new feature, P3, ---, kyle.m.hall, Pushed to Master , way to overlay items in in marc import
06:45 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: Bug 7131: DBRev 3.13.00.034
06:45 jenkins_koha * Kyle M Hall: Bug 7131: (follow-up) initialized some variables properly
06:45 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10733 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Pushed to Master , Memcached on package installs
06:45 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10962 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, bgkriegel, Pushed to Master , Update MARC21 frameworks to Update Nr. 17 (September 2013)
06:45 jenkins_koha * Kyle M Hall: Bug 7131: (follow-up) allow overlaying by barcode
06:45 jenkins_koha * Kyle M Hall: Bug 7131: (follow-up) perltidy BatchCommitItems
06:44 jenkins_koha * Elliott Davis: Bug 7131: teach MARC import how to overlay items
06:44 jenkins_koha * Tomas Cohen Arazi: Bug 10733: Follow up - unset variables from koha-sites.conf if USE_MEMCACHED=no
06:44 jenkins_koha * Tomas Cohen Arazi: Bug 10733: Memcached on package installs
06:44 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10243 major, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Pushed to Master , Holds queue is making transfer requests that contradict the branch holds policy
06:44 jenkins_koha * Tomas Cohen Arazi: Bug 10733: add 'memcached' as suggested dependency
06:44 jenkins_koha * Bernardo Gonzalez Kriegel: Bug 10962 - Update MARC21 frameworks to Update Nr. 17 (September 2013)
06:44 jenkins_koha * Kyle M Hall: Bug 10243: (follow-up) prevent TransportCostMatrix from overriding library holds policy
06:44 jenkins_koha * Kyle M Hall: Bug 10243: (follow-up) add unit tests
06:44 jenkins_koha * Kyle M Hall: Bug 10243: prevent holds queue from making transfer requests that contradict library holds policy
06:44 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #1483: STILL UNSTABLE in 1 hr 49 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/1483/
06:28 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10725 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , Add filters on the pending orders table
06:28 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10078 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, dcook, Pushed to Master , show location facet for all
06:28 jenkins_koha * Jonathan Druart: Bug 10725: Add filters on the pending orders table
06:28 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: Bug 10078: (follow-up) add regression test
06:28 jenkins_koha * David Cook: Bug 10078: show location facet regardless of singleBranchMode setting
06:28 jenkins_koha Project master_maria build #191: STILL UNSTABLE in 51 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/master_maria/191/
05:37 jenkins_koha Starting build #191 for job master_maria (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #174 7 days 23 hr ago)
05:36 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: Bug 7131: (follow-up) update the command-line import tools
05:36 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: Bug 7131: (follow-up) update DBIx::Class schema classes
05:36 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: Bug 7131: DBRev 3.13.00.034
05:36 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7131 new feature, P3, ---, kyle.m.hall, Pushed to Master , way to overlay items in in marc import
05:36 jenkins_koha * Kyle M Hall: Bug 7131: (follow-up) initialized some variables properly
05:36 jenkins_koha * Kyle M Hall: Bug 7131: (follow-up) allow overlaying by barcode
05:36 jenkins_koha * Kyle M Hall: Bug 7131: (follow-up) perltidy BatchCommitItems
05:36 jenkins_koha * Elliott Davis: Bug 7131: teach MARC import how to overlay items
05:36 jenkins_koha Project master_maria build #190: STILL UNSTABLE in 51 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/master_maria/190/
05:12 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 10725: Add filters on the pending orders table <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=5d7aa7e4356e0d014a31c43d4784c2a8d14d843f> / Bug 10078: (follow-up) add regression test <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=a0b042b8a276ddacf3be13fa1666454b9b1d3903> / Bug 10078: show location facet regardless of singleBranchMode setting <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha
04:55 jenkins_koha Starting build #1483 for job Koha_master (previous build: UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #1481 12 hr ago)
04:55 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: Bug 7688: (follow-up) update license statements
04:55 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: bug 7688: (follow-up) add authentication checking
04:55 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: Bug 7688: (follow-up) update DBIx::Class schema classes
04:55 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: Bug 7688: (follow-up) correct SQL to create the subscription table
04:55 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: Bug 7688: (follow-up) update test cases to reflect change in NewSubscription()
04:55 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: Bug 7688: (follow-up) fix typo
04:55 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: Bug 7688: DBRev 3.13.00.033
04:55 jenkins_koha * Julian Maurice: Bug 7688: (follow-up) rewrite 'for' loop in unit tests
04:55 jenkins_koha * Julian Maurice: Bug 7688: (follow-up) add unit tests for C4::Serials::GetNextSeq()
04:55 jenkins_koha * Julian Maurice: Bug 7688: (follow-up) add unit tests for C4::Serials::GetNextDate()
04:55 jenkins_koha * Julian Maurice: Bug 7688: (follow-up) add unit tests for C4::Serials::Numberpattern
04:55 jenkins_koha * Julian Maurice: Bug 7688: (follow-up) add unit tests for C4::Serials::Frequency
04:55 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7688 enhancement, P3, ---, julian.maurice, Pushed to Master , Change subscriptions numbering pattern and frequencies
04:55 jenkins_koha * Julian Maurice: Bug 7688: (follow-up) rewrite t/db_dependant/Serials.t
04:55 jenkins_koha * Julian Maurice: Bug 7688: (follow-up) set firstacquidate in updatedatabase if it's not set
04:55 jenkins_koha * Julian Maurice: Bug 7688: Change subscription numbering pattern and frequencies
04:55 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #1482: UNSTABLE in 1 hr 49 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/1482/
04:49 eythian I have exactly 15,000 messages in my Koha email folder.
04:45 jenkins_koha Starting build #190 for job master_maria (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #174 7 days 22 hr ago)
04:45 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10733 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Pushed to Master , Memcached on package installs
04:45 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10962 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, bgkriegel, Pushed to Master , Update MARC21 frameworks to Update Nr. 17 (September 2013)
04:45 jenkins_koha * Tomas Cohen Arazi: Bug 10733: Follow up - unset variables from koha-sites.conf if USE_MEMCACHED=no
04:45 jenkins_koha * Tomas Cohen Arazi: Bug 10733: Memcached on package installs
04:45 jenkins_koha * Tomas Cohen Arazi: Bug 10733: add 'memcached' as suggested dependency
04:45 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10243 major, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Pushed to Master , Holds queue is making transfer requests that contradict the branch holds policy
04:45 jenkins_koha * Bernardo Gonzalez Kriegel: Bug 10962 - Update MARC21 frameworks to Update Nr. 17 (September 2013)
04:45 jenkins_koha * Kyle M Hall: Bug 10243: (follow-up) prevent TransportCostMatrix from overriding library holds policy
04:45 jenkins_koha * Kyle M Hall: Bug 10243: (follow-up) add unit tests
04:45 jenkins_koha * Kyle M Hall: Bug 10243: prevent holds queue from making transfer requests that contradict library holds policy
04:45 jenkins_koha Project master_maria build #189: STILL UNSTABLE in 50 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/master_maria/189/
04:42 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 7131: (follow-up) update the command-line import tools <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=997a502c2293ed466178e86f091d9b7d7ce9f6ff> / Bug 7131: (follow-up) update DBIx::Class schema classes <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=15fb1c5bb4b25c5b035942b2fba7bf329f884ef9> / Bug 7131: DBRev 3.13.00.034 <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=5
04:31 eythian dpk1: looks good to me. I'll probably get the chance to test it out tomorrow. This'll also be good for migrations, as I do a bulkmarcimport and rebuild-zebra, and half way through realise I have about 5 processes all trying to index at the same time making everything slow.
04:24 eythian dpk1: cool
04:24 dpk1 eythian: final tweak added.
04:24 eythian and it's pretty much realtime.
04:24 eythian it's pretty cool. It also has a graph of requests/errors by time, a map of where requests are coming from, the top 10 404s (caused by custom themes typically), relative usage of the sites on our shared platform, and the last 100 log entries across all server, among other things.
04:21 mtj eythian++, thats an awesome idea! :p
04:03 * eythian is getting some nice log stats from our Koha servers, which (among other things) tells me what error messages are most common in the logs, so we can start getting rid of the worst offenders.
03:54 jenkins_koha Starting build #189 for job master_maria (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #174 7 days 21 hr ago)
03:54 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: Bug 7688: (follow-up) update license statements
03:54 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: bug 7688: (follow-up) add authentication checking
03:54 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: Bug 7688: (follow-up) update DBIx::Class schema classes
03:54 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: Bug 7688: (follow-up) correct SQL to create the subscription table
03:54 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: Bug 7688: (follow-up) update test cases to reflect change in NewSubscription()
03:54 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: Bug 7688: (follow-up) fix typo
03:54 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: Bug 7688: DBRev 3.13.00.033
03:54 jenkins_koha * Julian Maurice: Bug 7688: (follow-up) rewrite 'for' loop in unit tests
03:54 jenkins_koha * Julian Maurice: Bug 7688: (follow-up) add unit tests for C4::Serials::GetNextSeq()
03:54 jenkins_koha * Julian Maurice: Bug 7688: (follow-up) add unit tests for C4::Serials::GetNextDate()
03:54 jenkins_koha * Julian Maurice: Bug 7688: (follow-up) add unit tests for C4::Serials::Numberpattern
03:54 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7688 enhancement, P3, ---, julian.maurice, Pushed to Master , Change subscriptions numbering pattern and frequencies
03:54 jenkins_koha * Julian Maurice: Bug 7688: (follow-up) add unit tests for C4::Serials::Frequency
03:54 jenkins_koha * Julian Maurice: Bug 7688: (follow-up) rewrite t/db_dependant/Serials.t
03:54 jenkins_koha * Julian Maurice: Bug 7688: (follow-up) set firstacquidate in updatedatabase if it's not set
03:54 jenkins_koha * Julian Maurice: Bug 7688: Change subscription numbering pattern and frequencies
03:54 jenkins_koha Project master_maria build #188: STILL UNSTABLE in 52 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/master_maria/188/
03:35 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 10733: Follow up - unset variables from koha-sites.conf if USE_MEMCACHED=no <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=fb1748ee8ba8003742e497e059c187b64bde7fa2> / Bug 10733: Memcached on package installs <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=c6f091cc2348512e5a707cc9e0d8286b8e2ada0c> / Bug 10733: add 'memcached' as suggested dependency <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb
03:25 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 10962 - Update MARC21 frameworks to Update Nr. 17 (September 2013) <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=2234ef3ebda67d8397c855e6af9c5cd44b78c08f> / Bug 10243: (follow-up) prevent TransportCostMatrix from overriding library holds... <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=06ea76c3c2c9afcc324166c12b0510fdad0d77f1> / Bug 10243: (follow-up) add unit tests <http://git.koha
03:05 jenkins_koha Starting build #1482 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS)
03:03 jcamins (which is bad, because websites on my phone feel bad)
03:03 jcamins But it feels kind of like websites on my phone.
03:03 jcamins Well... it works.
03:03 eythian oh well. No one really uses them now anyway.
03:03 jcamins Answer: no.
03:02 jcamins eythian: I wanted to know Biblionarrator worked on iPhones.
03:02 eythian jcamins: what are you even doing with iOS?
03:02 jenkins_koha Starting build #188 for job master_maria (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #174 7 days 20 hr ago)
03:01 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 7688: (follow-up) update license statements <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=cec91b4a2c32bb620b8db35728fd3c1079485162> / bug 7688: (follow-up) add authentication checking <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=241a091f59757c170b159df4335e3bbf9eeb6c99> / Bug 7688: (follow-up) update DBIx::Class schema classes <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=com
02:49 jcamins Have I mentioned my great hatred for iOS recently?
02:49 jcamins Fixed it.
02:40 jcamins I have a 14px white bar along the right side of my page on an iOS simulator, obscuring the very end of each line.
02:32 mtj bonus points for adding a 'reduce' icon to the train :)
02:30 jcamins Thanks. That's what I was thinking of.
02:30 mtj anyhoo… just a idea :)
02:29 mtj so, click on a image with the 'expand' icon, which creates a 'train' caro
02:28 jcamins mtj: yeah, maybe.
02:28 mtj lots of small/tiny images to save space - and images expand on hover
02:27 mtj jcamins, this would work -> http://106.187.50.84/pubi/virtual-bookshelf/examples/train.html
02:21 jcamins Yeah, but that's basically just making a simple slider-y thing.
02:21 mtj http://fortawesome.github.io/Font-Awesome/icon/caret-right/
02:20 mtj i was seeing the images expand vertically in my head, despite jcamins saying otherwise
02:19 mtj there you go :)
02:18 mtj yeah, better :p
02:18 eythian it should be pointing to the right to indicate something can be opened.
02:18 eythian it's for sorting
02:17 mtj …most people know that icon usually expands 'something'
02:15 mtj oooh, i think this is all you need -> http://fortawesome.github.io/Font-Awesome/icon/sort-asc/
02:14 jcamins Yeah, that's probably what I'll do.
02:13 mtj jcamins, take a look here, for a suitable icon -> http://fortawesome.github.io/Font-Awesome/icons/
02:07 mtj …or some 'stack' icon, overlaid top-left on the image
02:05 mtj hmm, yeah thats a little tricky… perhaps an offset dark square (or 2) under the image, to show there's 'multiple' images?
01:49 jcamins I want some way to make it clear there may be multiple images, without taking lots of vertical space until someone clicks to expand the images.
01:46 mtj eythian, but yeah - i dislike most uses of caros on websites too :p
01:44 mtj this one's cool -> http://106.187.50.84/pubi/virtual-bookshelf/examples/bookshelf-substitutes.html
01:42 mtj …its the 1st caro i've seen, written specifically to display bibs/books/media, etc
01:41 mtj [off] here's some curtin-caro examples - some are quite impressive -> http://106.187.50.84/pubi/virtual-bookshelf/examples/
01:37 eythian probably, I was just putting it out there.
01:36 mtj hey eythian, the points of your caro link don't really apply for a 'new books' lists, tho?
01:35 jcamins Aww. That's too bad. I don't think a carousel will work for me, sadly.
01:34 mtj hey, i did try - but sadly, it was way beyong my JS fu :/
01:32 jcamins You should fix the bug. :)
01:29 mtj (the CF caro has some very subtle bug with occasional images not loading, so… next :/ )
01:28 jcamins Yeah, that's pretty cool.
01:27 mtj but, the curtin caro looks a little nicer, i think -> http://caro1.kohaaloha.com/
01:26 mtj i did some experimenting with the 'content-flow' caro, too - for CALYX -> http://demo.calyx.net.au/
01:25 jcamins mtj++
01:23 mtj jcamins ^^
01:23 mtj [off] i have a mirror here… -> https://github.com/KohaAloha/virtual-bookshelf
01:23 eythian http://shouldiuseacarousel.com/ <-- mtj :)
01:21 mtj hell yes, me too... O_o
01:20 jcamins I have issues with any open source projects that require you to register.
01:20 jcamins mtj: nice!
01:19 mtj ...it has an MIT license, so can be used with Koha :)
01:19 mtj http://bookshelf.library.curtin.edu.au/newbooks
01:19 mtj http://library.curtin.edu.au/
01:19 mtj hey jcamins, heres a nice caro i discovered recently…