Time  Nick         Message
23:59 dcook        Hmm, poor phone
23:59 gmcharlt     it is good to attach oneself to bshum ;)
23:58 dcook        hehe
23:58 jcamins      And they didn't notice.
23:58 jcamins      The flight was empty, so I joined him.
23:58 jcamins      bshum is a valued customer, so he was in Economy Plus.
23:57 dcook        Because the behaviour will just remain constant for grs1
23:57 dcook        I suppose not
23:57 wahanui      http://media.moddb.com/images/groups/1/3/2933/collapsing.gif
23:57 dcook        No?
23:57 rambutan     TNX, will remember that.
23:57 jcamins      dcook: no, but it doesn't matter.
23:57 jcamins      And I wouldn't pay for it.
23:57 dcook        jcamins: That's my thought as well but is there a way to differentiate between the two installs?
23:57 jcamins      But a lot more legroom.
23:56 jcamins      Just more legroom.
23:56 rambutan     jcamins: was EP better in any way other than the obvious--more legroom? And was that enough to be worthwhile?
23:56 jcamins      Fix the bug for DOM, and note that it can't be repaired if you won't upgrade to DOM.
23:56 dcook        I wonder how we deal with that
23:56 jcamins      Yeah, I'd forgotten about that.
23:55 dac          Then Grs1 just remains a problem
23:54 dac          Yeah, changing the record length seemed like the best solution to Martin and I as well
23:54 jcamins      It was really nice.
23:54 jcamins      I got to experience Economy Plus seating yesterday.
23:54 dac          Cheers, gmcharlt
23:51 * gmcharlt   now boards an aeroplane
23:49 gmcharlt     IOW, that is the reason to upgrade to a recent version of MARC::Record
23:48 gmcharlt     <gmcharlt> https://sourceforge.net/p/marcpm/code/ci/3efc45777f8e4bec1cd09beb6ab2968e5fb0e44f/
23:48 gmcharlt     dac: from the IRC logs:
23:48 dac          Gmcharlt: Yeah, I can see record length is irrelevant for reading the record, but I assume that MARC Record caps it at 99999 so that you don't get a 25 character leader?
23:48 jcamins      And I do now remember knowing that it didn't work.
23:47 jcamins      I'm not sure it serializes to ISO2709, but it definitely is parsed as a MARC record.
23:47 dac          With grs1, is it turning marcxml to marc then back?
23:46 jcamins      Yeah, with GRS-1, a record larger than 99999 characters can't be indexed.
23:44 jcamins      dac: oh, yeah, probably.
23:44 dac          Tcohen is thinking it might be a grs1 issue as well?
23:44 gmcharlt     dac: yes, only matters to ISO2709
23:44 dac          To
23:43 dac          I think gmcharlt said record length doesn't matter with marcxml?
23:43 dac          Good summary. Tomas hand edited it to set the record length to 99999
23:42 jcamins      (summary ^^)
23:41 jcamins      dac: so if you install MARC::Record from CPAN, that may fix your problem.
23:41 dac          Tomas is working on my laptop so I missed most of the convo. On my phone now.
23:34 jcamins      dcook: so if you install MARC::Record from CPAN, that may fix your problem.
23:31 gmcharlt     just one that fails less badly
23:31 jcamins      Right, but it doesn't corrupt the MARCXML.
23:31 gmcharlt     but to be clear, that patch still results in an invalid leader
23:31 jcamins      Yeah.
23:30 gmcharlt     https://sourceforge.net/p/marcpm/code/ci/3efc45777f8e4bec1cd09beb6ab2968e5fb0e44f/
23:30 jcamins      julian_m fixed it.
23:30 jcamins      MARC::Record >=2.0.4
23:30 jcamins      Found it.
23:29 jcamins      gmcharlt: I feel like the invalid leader is a bug that you've mentioned before.
23:27 gmcharlt     sorry, paul_p
23:27 gmcharlt     ah, no - dcook
23:27 paul_p       gmcharlt ? don't you mean jcamins ?
23:27 gmcharlt     IMO, that should be done only reluctantly -- i.e., only in those cases where an export specifically requires that
23:26 gmcharlt     paul_p: the leader lenght is relevant only when serializing as ISO2709
23:26 paul_p       jcamins oh yes, left ! I was not happy with leaved, now I understand why...
23:25 jcamins      dcook: ah well, he could've told you which version of MARC::Record was needed for that to work.
23:24 jcamins      left. :)
23:24 paul_p       s/leaves/leaved/
23:24 paul_p       ago
23:24 paul_p       jcamins nope, he leaves 1 hour ag
23:24 jcamins      dcook: if gmcharlt is still there, you should ask him about the leader length.
23:24 paul_p       jcamins (well, I promize i'll ask & try to convince ;-) )
23:23 jcamins      Of course.
23:23 paul_p       jcamins = drop me an email (I'm not promizing anything !)
23:23 * jcamins    will figure that out after making dinner.
23:22 jcamins      I'm not sure.
23:22 jcamins      Hm.
23:22 jcamins      Right. Anything I am willing to do for free, someone would like done, just because it's free.
23:22 paul_p       jcamins = how much ? (I could ask some french libraries)
23:22 paul_p       OK ;-)
23:22 paul_p       jcamins = do you mean "if someone want to fund" ?
23:22 jcamins      paul_p: enough to pay for it to be done? That's the question.
23:21 paul_p       jcamins OK, a lot of ppl want that work to be done !
23:21 jcamins      All Jared was doing was demonstrating that it could be fixed, and he is capable of it, if someone wants that work done.
23:21 jcamins      paul_p: Jared is not working on faceting in Zebra.
23:21 jcamins      Right.
23:20 dcook        Impossible to save big records with an accurate leader, yep
23:20 jcamins      So it looks like it's also impossible to save records in Koha.
23:20 jcamins      Okay.
23:20 dcook        And elements marcxml
23:20 dcook        Nopes. That was with form xml
23:19 jcamins      (that you reported in a comment)
23:18 jcamins      It looks like there is *also* a bug where Koha can't save massive records.
23:18 jcamins      The reason for the patch is that it is impossible to retrieve records from Zebra using usmarc, which is what you appear to have been using.
23:18 jcamins      dcook: when you tested in yaz-client, did you change how you were retrieving the record?
23:16 eythian      marc++ # it can't help its genetics!
23:12 jcamins      marc-- # so true
23:02 dcook        marc--
22:54 jenkins_koha Starting build #1471 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #1451 4 days 23 hr ago)
22:53 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10493 new feature, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Pushed to Master , Add renewal script
22:53 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: Bug 10493: (follow-up) fix unitialized variable warning
22:53 jenkins_koha * Kyle M Hall: Bug 10493: (follow-up) fix various QA issues
22:53 jenkins_koha * Owen Leonard: Bug 10493: (follow-up) fix minor template issues
22:53 jenkins_koha * Kyle M Hall: Bug 10493: Add renewal script
22:53 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #1470: STILL UNSTABLE in 1 hr 48 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/1470/
22:13 harry__      ok
22:13 harry__      ?
22:12 harry__      so i can leave the file as it is
22:12 harry__      so do i need to add the two dns here to the file
22:12 eythian      given you're doing real DNS
22:12 eythian      I'd leave /etc/hosts alone
22:12 harry__      ok
22:12 jcamins      Well, that your network admin set up.
22:11 jcamins      No, you need to use the DNS you just set up.
22:11 harry__      i mean should i replace it with the servers static ip
22:10 harry__      does this ip 127.0.0.1 should be the servers static ip which is in /etc/hosts
22:05 harry__      it  worked
22:03 harry__      sorry
22:02 eythian      just kill it. with the kill command.
22:02 harry__      ok
22:02 jcamins      harry__: please use paste.koha-community.org for pasting.
22:02 harry__      so hopw to kill it
22:02 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: update 3.14 release notes for second alpha
22:02 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: Bug 10493: (follow-up) fix unitialized variable warning
22:02 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10493 new feature, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Pushed to Master , Add renewal script
22:02 jenkins_koha * Kyle M Hall: Bug 10493: (follow-up) fix various QA issues
22:02 jenkins_koha * Owen Leonard: Bug 10493: (follow-up) fix minor template issues
22:02 jenkins_koha * Kyle M Hall: Bug 10493: Add renewal script
22:02 jenkins_koha Project master_maria build #177: STILL UNSTABLE in 45 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/master_maria/177/
22:02 eythian      yeah, you have apache2 still running
22:02 harry__      eythian: pid/program name 32197/mysqld(state listen)(local address : localhost:mysql)  , 30696/apache2  ( listen, local address: *:http) , 784/dhclient3
22:01 eythian      probably also worth adding a -n to stop it trying to resolve things when it doesn't need to.
21:59 jcamins      I always forget about -p
21:58 eythian      harry__: you have to find it first. sudo netstat -lp --inet should get you started
21:57 jcamins      I should go pick up our veggies.
21:57 jcamins      No opinion there.
21:57 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6435 major, P5 - low, ---, dpk, Signed Off , [ENH] Added daemon mode parameters to rebuild_zebra.pl
21:57 jcamins      bug 6435
21:57 dpk          The other bug was 6435 which I think is still awaiting QA.
21:56 jcamins      dpk: rewrite-config.pl is the script that processes koha-conf.xml.
21:55 harry__      how to kill that process
21:55 jcamins      dpk: I'd go with the latter.
21:55 eythian      maybe you somehow have a stray apache process that didn't die.
21:55 dpk          jcamins: We currently don't specify the RUN_DIR anywhere, but I could either infer it from LOG_DIR (sort of ugly) or explicityly generate it based on $(DESTDIR)/var/run and put it into koha-conf.xml, then use C4::Context as you mention.  I already use that to get the db name
21:55 eythian      you have something else listening on port 80 most likely.
21:54 harry__      its a clean install and i did not install any other webserver
21:53 harry__      action 'start' failed
21:53 eythian      harry__: that implies you have another webserver running on that machine.
21:53 harry__      no listening sockets available, shutting down
21:53 harry__      when i used sudo service apache2 restart it gave an error make_sock: could not bind to address0.0.0.0:80
21:52 jcamins      dpk: if this is about the rebuild_zebra.pl script, you can't rewrite the rebuild_zebra.pl script as part of the install process. What you'll need to do is get the lock directory from koha-conf.xml using C4::Context->config('somevariablethatgivesyouthedirectoryyouneed')
21:50 harry__      ok
21:49 eythian      and write it down somewhere safe, but no part of the koha process requires it.
21:49 eythian      I mean, you should set one
21:49 eythian      harry__: no
21:47 dpk          no joy for my bugs.
21:47 harry__      for the root user
21:47 dpk          Sigh.
21:47 oleonard     khall is now travelling home dpk
21:47 harry__      so do i need to give  aroot password for mysql installation
21:47 dpk          khall: yt?
21:46 dpk          khall?
21:45 redbeard45   Thanks!
21:44 eythian      redbeard45: wheresmyserver.co.nz (disclaimer: a friend of mine is part owner)
21:44 harry__      ok ill do it
21:44 jcamins      Except change .myDNSname.org to .ttcils.latech.edu
21:44 harry__      .ttcils.latech.edu is my domain right
21:44 redbeard45   Anyone got suggestions for hosting in New Zealand
21:44 eythian      yep
21:43 harry__      i would use the instance name library
21:43 eythian      those defaults are pretty OK
21:43 eythian      anyway, that looks fairly sane, though really what matters is what ends up in /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/instancename
21:43 harry__      i need help  to fill those
21:42 harry__      ok
21:42 eythian      harry__: use that rather than pasting things here
21:42 harry__      my domains are library-intra.ttcils.latech.edu and library.ttcils,latech.edu
21:42 wahanui      paste is found at http://paste.koha-community.org
21:42 eythian      paste?
21:42 harry__      DOMAIN=".myDNSname.org"  # Change this to be your domain. INTRAPORT="80"  # TCP listening port for the administration interface INTRAPREFIX="" INTRASUFFIX="-intra" DEFAULTSQL="" OPACPORT="80"  # TCP listening port for the users' interface OPACPREFIX="" OPACSUFFIX="" ZEBRA_MARC_FORMAT="marc21"  # Possible values are 'marc21', 'normarc' and 'unimarc' ZEBRA_LANGUAGE="en"
21:27 wahanui      somebody said also that was a giant undertaking
21:27 eythian      also that
21:27 wahanui      mailing list is at http://koha-community.org/support/koha-mailing-lists/
21:27 eythian      mailing list?
21:27 eythian      redbeard45: those places, and here.
21:27 redbeard45   Thanks
21:26 * Dyrcona    hands redbeard45 a lollipop.
21:26 wahanui      eythian: marc =is= the standard that isn't|<reply>http://marc-must-die.info|<reply>The MARC specs live at http://www.loc.gov/marc/bibliographic/ - abandon hope all ye who enter here.
21:26 eythian      wahanui: literal marc
21:26 jcamins      marc documentation?
21:26 jcamins      bib formats?
21:26 jcamins      bibformats?
21:26 wahanui      marc is the standard that isn't
21:26 jcamins      marc?
21:26 wahanui      http://marc-must-die.info
21:26 jcamins      marc?
21:26 wahanui      marc is the standard that isn't
21:26 jcamins      marc?
21:26 wahanui      manual is at http://www.koha-community.org/documentation
21:26 jcamins      manual?
21:26 wahanui      somebody said wiki was http://wiki.koha-community.org
21:26 jcamins      wiki?
21:26 redbeard45   Best place to find resources to get me on my way?
21:25 jcamins      redbeard45: you'll need to convert the data from Excel into MARC, since Koha uses MARC records.
21:25 eythian      jcamins: also Australia.
21:25 eythian      You can't import spreadsheets directly, but there are tools to convert them with a bit of work.
21:25 jcamins      eythian: huh. Learn something new every day.
21:25 jcamins      redbeard45: Koha's web-based so you'll just need a server to put it on.
21:25 eythian      redbeard45: there's not really any admin software, you just need to set it up on a server and then everything works over a web browser.
21:24 redbeard45   So I just need to setup a computer somewhere with the admin software, get some hosting established and go from there? I can import resources from Excel file okay? Might need some massaging depending on fields used?
21:23 eythian      redbeard45: yep, it'll do the job just fine
21:22 redbeard45   I just want on online database where a teacher in one office can look up the resources on a topic and find out what there is in the group as a whole - books, DVDs, software, etc
21:21 redbeard45   Currently no database of resources. They have been recorded onto an Excel spreadsheet
21:21 eythian      (there isn't really a longer answer :)
21:21 eythian      redbeard45: short answer is yes
21:21 redbeard45   Wanting to know if I can use Koha to manage book and media resources for 5 different offices with about 6 people in each spread around a city
21:20 eythian      jcamins: gst is not just a french thing, NZ has it too
21:19 eythian      there might have been a typo in the line when you entered it.
21:19 eythian      harry__: what exactly is the error?
21:19 eythian      harry__: it should still work
21:16 jenkins_koha Starting build #177 for job master_maria (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #174 14 hr ago)
21:13 harry__      cause when i upgraded ub ubuntu it said failed to obtain from that source error 404
21:13 harry__      for installing on ubuntu 12.04
21:13 harry__      is that command still the same
21:13 harry__      echo deb http://debian.koha-community.org/koha squeeze main | sudo tee /etc/apt/sources.list.d/koha.list
21:11 huginn       New commit(s) kohagit: update 3.14 release notes for second alpha <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=0c219d3dd83e6eb0ef9eb84b02266ab618eade8b> / Bug 10493: (follow-up) fix unitialized variable warning <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=716eaecc6c35b0491ba248ddba27273181f48856> / Bug 10493: (follow-up) fix various QA issues <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=
21:07 blou         I'm in no rush, I'll give him some time to recover (major jet lag).  Thanks again for the direction
21:07 blou         ok
21:07 jcamins      Today's the last day of the hackfest.
21:06 jcamins      blou: tomorrow he'll be traveling, I think.
21:06 * blou       wishes he was in Reno
21:06 blou         I'll bug mister paul_p tomorrow, maybe THEN he'll be back from lunch
21:06 harry__      ok just a sec
21:05 jcamins      harry__: I've seen that before on working systems.
21:05 jenkins_koha Starting build #1470 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #1451 4 days 21 hr ago)
21:05 harry__      is that somehting normal
21:05 harry__      even when i restarted apache
21:05 blou         jcamins: just figured that file was created by BibLibre, not Bywaters like I (thought i) originally saw.
21:04 harry__      when i installed i got messages like host name cannot be resolved
21:04 blou         harry__: since you're playing with alias, monitor the log  /var/log/apache2/other_vhosts_access.log
21:03 blou         harry__: i did play a lot around theses lately, but I can't really tell you the RIGHT solution.  It involves playing with your koha-conf.xml, /etc/hosts (linux) and the /etc/apache2/ports.conf :(
21:03 harry__      ok let me ckeck
21:03 jcamins      The problem is in /etc/apache2/sites_available/library
21:03 jcamins      You don't need to reinstall.
21:02 harry__      i will post the outputs after each installation step
21:02 harry__      ok let me reinstall koha using packages i am sure i made some mistakes.
21:01 jcamins      Yeah, in that case there are no DNS configuration files for you to edit.
21:01 harry__      he routed both the domains to the same ip
21:00 harry__      yes he did that
21:00 jcamins      harry__: your network admin should have configured it.
21:00 harry__      Where is the DNS file located
20:59 blou         jcamins: yeah, apparently, some pay that ... :)
20:59 harry__      yes right now i am restarting the server
20:59 jcamins      You restarted Apache after checking the domain names, eh?
20:58 jcamins      If your DNS is configured, they can be the same.
20:57 harry__      or should they be different
20:57 harry__      and can i leave the ports for OPAC and users as 80
20:57 harry__      yes
20:56 jcamins      blou: apparently you have gst in Canada.
20:56 * jcamins    has a tradition of misspelling domains.
20:56 jcamins      harry__: did you check the virtual hosts in /etc/apache2/sites_available/library to make sure they have the domains spelled correctly?
20:55 harry__      i am using this server just for koha
20:55 jcamins      blou: yeah, gst doesn't mean anything in the US.
20:55 harry__      i asked my network admin to forward both of the domain to 138.47.37.171 which is the server i am installing koha
20:55 harry__      hello all, Here is my problem why I use lynx to configure i am ending up with the maintenance page. My OPAC site is library-intra.ttcils.latech.edu and for users it is library.ttcils.latech.edu
20:55 jcamins      You should ask paul_p when (if) he gets back from lunch.
20:55 blou         is it?  I thought they would have called it VAT
20:54 jcamins      blou: gst is a French thing.
20:54 blou         Or maybe i just don't understand (anything)
20:54 blou         Seems to have been coded by US people, yet in the US, it varies from state to state if the shipping is taxable.  I don't understand the hardcoding...
20:53 blou         hahahahaha, I'll remember that word of wisdom!
20:51 jcamins      :P
20:51 jcamins      Working on acquisitions is always unlucky.
20:51 blou         this is not my lucky week :)
20:47 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11062 minor, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Invoice's shipment/shipping cost should  be included PRE-gst tax (as an option)
20:47 blou         bug 11062?
20:47 blou         trying my luck this week, although I know many are still having fun in Reno:  Anyone with knowledge of Acquisitions in the room?
20:46 blou         hola koha#
20:37 jcamins      He'll presumably be back once he realizes that he just left IRC.
20:37 talljoy      well hopefully that will give him something to chew on
20:37 Guest3156    is it a must for fresh install of os for libki server to work. i'm having difficulty in connecting to the server installed in linux mint 15 through clinet on ubuntu 12.04.
20:36 talljoy      yup
20:36 jcamins      Nah, he disappeared the moment I shared the link.
20:36 talljoy      or thicker skin
20:36 jcamins      Or control.
20:36 jcamins      Should've warned him to hold down shift.
20:36 talljoy      eek
20:36 jcamins      Whoops.
20:35 jcamins      ^^ that document might be helpful.
20:35 wahanui      virtual hosts are http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.0/vhosts/examples.html
20:35 jcamins      virtual hosts?
20:35 jcamins      I can't at the moment, no. I'm working on other things. This isn't really a Koha thing. You're using Apache to serve both the staff client and the OPAC on the same port using virtual hosts. In order for virtual hosts to work, you have to have your system set up so that you can use the DNS names rather than IP addresses.
20:34 dpk          khall: yt?
20:34 harry        i am following the instructions from http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Koha_on_ubuntu_-_packages
20:34 harry        can you be specific, this is the first time ever i am working on koha installation
20:33 jcamins      You'll need to set up DNS, so that the web server can tell you want the staff client and not the OPAC.
20:31 harry        i am ending up with the maintenance page when using lynx to configure
20:31 harry        sure
20:30 talljoy      can you start with a specific error you are encountering?
20:30 talljoy      hi harry - i'm not an expert on that and some folks are at the kohacon conference and not reliably in channel today
20:29 harry        would appreciate any help
20:29 harry        need some help woth the koha installation on ubuntu via packages
20:28 harry        on ubuntu
20:28 harry        need some help with koha installation using packages
20:26 haxan        "hi?
20:24 haxan        the "admin" patron is associated to midway}
20:24 wahanui      I LIKE ALMONDS! HAVE SOME NUTS!
20:24 haxan        rangi?
20:23 * haxan      slaps rangi around a bit with a large fishbot
20:23 haxan        midway branch?
20:23 haxan        and then delete midawy barnch?
20:23 haxan        koha version 3.8
20:23 haxan        Can I delete this admin patron?
20:22 haxan        I deleted the branches FRanklin, Union, Springfield, etc. but Miday is associated to the Admin patron
20:22 haxan        hi
20:21 Dyrcona      Yay! Hackfest!
20:21 * magnuse    wishes the remaining hackfest crew a productive after lunch session
19:58 dpk          khall: back from lunch.  Did you see my annotation on 11078?
19:42 * talljoy    pouts
19:42 talljoy      how did i miss the yerba mate?
19:12 wahanui      salut, nengard
19:12 nengard      hi
19:08 talljoy      i had greek buffet.  ( i missed the buffet at atlantis_
19:08 druthb       :)  the buffet here was nice today, too.
19:08 talljoy      yummy lunch.
19:07 talljoy      o/ druthb
19:07 * druthb     waves to nengard and talljoy.
19:07 oleonard     And to you too kind sir.
19:06 jcamins      oleonard: yerba mate.
19:05 oleonard     What is this mate of which you speak?
18:53 tcohen       in life i mean :-P
18:53 tcohen       they are complimentary
18:52 * jcamins    would drink excellent French wine if it were available to him, but mate will have to do.
18:51 tcohen       well, we're now drinking an excellent french wine :-P
18:50 jcamins      I see why you're drinking it all the time.
18:50 jcamins      Yup. :)
18:50 tcohen       did u like it?
18:49 jcamins      And apparently I used the wrong temperature of water. It should be 167 degrees.
18:47 jcamins      It tastes very different from tea.
18:46 jcamins      Not at all what I expected, somehow.
18:41 tcohen       http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wfGN8-bPjU0
18:36 jcamins      tcohen++
18:36 jcamins      That's delicious!
18:36 jcamins      Mmmm.
18:32 jcamins      Ah-ha. Now I understand the straw. :)
18:29 tcohen       :-D
18:27 jcamins      I didn't realize mate was so complicated to prepare.
18:27 jcamins      Oh, goodness.
18:25 jcamins      tcohen: what temperature should the water be for mate?
18:25 jcamins      Ooh! Mate!
18:19 jcamins      Hello.
18:18 tcohen       hi jcamins
17:52 jcamins      The linker script isn't really intended for generating authorities, which is why I didn't think to put in documentation for how to use it to do so (well, that and the fact that it can't really be used for authority generation).
17:51 nengard      okay - i'm going to delete my authorities again :)
17:51 jcamins      That's a good point.
17:51 nengard      and then if you want it on you should turn it on after a reindex
17:51 jcamins      Right.
17:51 nengard      and basically it should be off before you run the linker the first time
17:51 nengard      so the manual needs a warning on that explaining that that's what will happen
17:51 nengard      hmmmm
17:51 jcamins      Every single heading was missing an authority, so it generated one for each (because there's no reindexing in between records).
17:50 jcamins      You ran the linker script.
17:50 jcamins      You had no authorities.
17:50 jcamins      No, the description reflects what happened.
17:50 nengard      so the description isn't right
17:50 jcamins      Well- it is doing exactly what it was designed to do.
17:49 jcamins      It's doing exactly what it's supposed to.
17:49 jcamins      No it's not.
17:49 nengard      it's creating authorities where it shouldn't
17:49 nengard      so it sounds to me like a bug
17:49 nengard      but it says 'When editing records, generate authority records that are missing' ... these aren't missing they are there
17:49 jcamins      AutoCreateAuthorities is the one I leave off.
17:49 nengard      which are you saying i shouldn't have?
17:49 nengard      AutoCreateAuthorities = generate and  BiblioAddsAuthorities  = allow
17:48 jenkins_koha Nicole C. Engard: add ConfirmFutureHolds
17:48 jenkins_koha Project Koha_Docs build #382: SUCCESS in 10 sec: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Docs/382/
17:48 jenkins_koha Starting build #382 for job Koha_Docs (previous build: SUCCESS)
17:48 * jcamins    doesn't use that, and forgets that other people do.
17:48 jcamins      nengard: that's because you have the AutoGenerateAuthorities (or something like that) syspref turned on.
17:44 nengard      jcamins i deleted my authorities, ran the linker and it created a ton of authorities each with only 1 bib attached ... just fyi
17:25 khall        yo
17:23 dpk          khall: yt?
17:22 reiveune     bye
16:48 gmcharlt     cognates FTW
16:48 jcamins      Ah, in French they call it cédille.
16:48 gmcharlt     jcamins: that's what I've always called it too
16:48 jcamins      I've always called it a "cedilla," but that sounds Spanish.
16:47 jcamins      What do you call the accent in the word façade?
16:46 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: Bug 5336: (follow-up) improve setting 'partial' order status during upgrade
16:46 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: Bug 5336: (follow-up) remove unused new parameter to NewOrder() that slipped in
16:46 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: Bug 5336: (follow-up) update DBIC schema class for aqorders
16:46 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: Bug 5336: DBRev 3.13.00.032
16:46 jenkins_koha * Jonathan Druart: Bug 5336: (follow-up) multiple QA fixes
16:46 jenkins_koha * Jonathan Druart: Bug 5336: (follow-up) fix case where partial status was not correctly set
16:46 jenkins_koha * Jonathan Druart: Bug 5336: (follow-up) use understandable codes rather than magic numbers for orderstatus
16:46 jenkins_koha * Jonathan Druart: Bug 5336: (follow-up) miscellaneous changes
16:46 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5336 new feature, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , Acq history search
16:46 jenkins_koha * Jonathan Druart: Bug 5336: (follow-up) add unit tests for 3 acq routines
16:46 jenkins_koha * Jonathan Druart: Bug 5336: (follow-up) merge parent ordernumber and ordernumber columns in display
16:46 jenkins_koha * Jonathan Druart: Bug 5336: (follow-up) don't display deleted orders in late orders search result
16:46 jenkins_koha * Jonathan Druart: Bug 5336: Order search (search and UI enhancements)
16:46 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #1469: STILL UNSTABLE in 1 hr 49 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/1469/
16:46 huginn       oleonard: slef was last seen in #koha 1 week, 6 days, 6 hours, 35 minutes, and 41 seconds ago: <slef> #info MJ Ray, software.coop (England)
16:46 oleonard     @seen slef
16:43 tcohen       around?
16:43 tcohen       slef
16:36 nengard      it's a test system after all
16:36 nengard      can't hurt
16:36 nengard      k
16:35 nengard      well obviously it's corrupted cause the full rebuild isn't fixing it
16:35 jcamins      Hmm... what I'd probably do is delete all the authorities, reindex Zebra so that you get no results, run link_bibs_to_authorities, and *then* reload authorities.
16:35 nengard      heh
16:35 jcamins      So, the answer to your question is "if your authority file isn't corrupted, the cron job or a full rebuild will take care of the indexing. If the authority file is corrupted, you might have a problem."
16:34 nengard      would a new file just mean dumping the old tables and starting over? wouldn't there still be links left to the bibs?
16:34 nengard      :)
16:34 nengard      i just keep upgrading my system
16:33 nengard      it was very possible years ago
16:33 jcamins      nengard: that shouldn't be possible. I think a new authority file might indeed be in order.
16:33 jenkins_koha Nicole C. Engard: change dropbox to book drop
16:33 jenkins_koha Project Koha_Docs build #381: SUCCESS in 13 sec: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Docs/381/
16:33 jenkins_koha Starting build #381 for job Koha_Docs (previous build: SUCCESS)
16:33 gaetan_B     thanks jcamins that's really helpful !
16:33 nengard      all linked to 1 bib record
16:32 nengard      i have hundreds of dups
16:32 nengard      i want to dump my crap authority file and start over
16:32 nengard      hmmm
16:31 jcamins      I'm not sure why it's not working for you then.
16:30 nengard      i did misc/migration_tools/rebuild_zebra.pl -a -r -v
16:29 * cait       waves
16:29 jcamins      Of course, if you did it without the -z or -r right after the merge, you'll now have to do -a -r -x.
16:28 nengard      k let me see what i was running
16:27 jcamins      -b is optional, since that's just for bibs.
16:27 jcamins      Or -a -r -x
16:27 jcamins      rebuild_zebra.pl -a -z -x
16:27 nengard      that might be what i'm doing wrong ;)
16:27 nengard      can you confirm for me the command to rebuild the authorities index
16:26 jcamins      nengard: I don't think so. It always just worked for me.
16:26 nengard      i faked the manual update for now :)
16:26 nengard      is there a step i'm missing
16:26 nengard      jcamins i was testing the authority merge yesterday and i'm not seeing it work - i merge with no errors and then i rebuilt the search and the 2 merged records are still listed as 2 on the results
16:26 BobB         :)
16:26 nengard      hiya BobB
16:26 oleonard     Not often I can say good morning to BobB and have it be time zone correct for both of us
16:25 oleonard     Good morning BobB
16:25 BobB         good morning #koha
16:24 jcamins      It's not blazing fast, but it works.
16:23 jcamins      I think the instructions say you have to use 3.6, but I actually ran 3.12.
16:23 tcohen       morning #koha !
16:22 wahanui      jcamins: huh?
16:22 jcamins      wahanui does know.
16:22 gaetan_B     yes this makes a lot of sense now that i think ok it
16:22 jcamins      Woohoo!
16:22 wahanui      Raspberry Pi embedded computers run Koha just fine. :) See http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Koha_on_a_Raspberry_Pi
16:22 jcamins      raspberry pi?
16:22 gaetan_B     it looks pretty nice
16:22 jcamins      Yeah, drojf was talking about that too.
16:22 gaetan_B     ah ok
16:22 gaetan_B     the reason i am asking is i was dreaming of a "koha box" that could be shipped to developping countries for setting up a library quickly
16:22 jcamins      Since I don't circulate my dictionaries, that's not a problem for me.
16:21 jcamins      You have to use it with Koha (or another ILS) if you want to do circulation.
16:21 gaetan_B     ok
16:21 gaetan_B     i'll have to have a look at this
16:21 jcamins      Nope- catalogue/discovery layer.
16:21 gaetan_B     i see you created a whole new ils !
16:20 * gaetan_B   was joking
16:20 jcamins      Evergreen barely runs on a VM for me.
16:20 jcamins      I'm using a Raspberry Pi!
16:20 jcamins      lol
16:20 jcamins      Biblionarrator.
16:20 gaetan_B     evergreen ? :p
16:20 jcamins      Now it's infinitely slow, because it's not running at all.
16:19 gaetan_B     oh what do you use now then ?
16:19 gaetan_B     jcamins: ahah, that's very interesting :)
16:19 jcamins      Well, it was until I stopped using Koha for my home library. :D
16:19 jcamins      I mean, yeah, it's slow, but for my home library, it's fast enough.
16:19 jcamins      gaetan_B: not really.
16:19 gaetan_B     anyone tried that here and could tell me more ?
16:18 gaetan_B     on a scale that actually stopped them from going further
16:18 gaetan_B     but i think they had performance issues
16:18 gaetan_B     i know some people have tried putting koha on a raspberry pi
16:18 gaetan_B     hey there
15:34 nengard      yeah i was busy moving the other days :(
15:34 oleonard     Not sure how many newbies we have left today, but we'll have a few
15:33 nengard      since they're tiny string patches
15:33 nengard      just thought i should do them with a bunch of hackers in one room looking to teach newbies how to sign off :)
15:32 nengard      i do them before every release
15:32 nengard      routine
15:32 oleonard     nengard: Did some KohaCon discussions lead to these updates or are they routine?
15:31 sophie_m     oups
15:31 * sophie_m   pause, je repasse plus tard
15:29 nengard      more coming
15:29 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10671 normal, P5 - low, ---, nengard, Needs Signoff , Koha 3.14 Help Files Update
15:29 nengard      hackfesters want easy patches to sign off on to pad their numbers? :) bug 10671
15:29 oleonard     Maybe even try to do a joint Koha/Evergreen hackfest since we have Evergreen libraries in our area
15:28 oleonard     bag and I are talking about trying to put together an American hackfest next year some time in my neck of the woods
15:26 oleonard     :(
15:25 oleonard     :(
15:25 * oleonard   leaves in the morning :(
15:25 druthb       reasonably smooth, yes.  Long.
15:24 oleonard     Smooth travels I hope?
15:24 * oleonard   should have been paying better attention
15:24 oleonard     Hi druthb, I'm sorry I didn't get to say goodbye to you!
15:22 * druthb     wriggles happily
15:22 druthb       hi, oleonard! :)
15:16 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8236 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, fridolyn.somers, Signed Off , Prevent renewing if overdue or restriction
15:16 oleonard     When I started reading the comments on Bug 8236 I didn't realize I should have brought food and water with me.
15:04 mtompset     Greetings, oleonard. :)
15:04 oleonard     Hi #koha
15:02 mtompset     I thought I saw some kind of bug report for that enhancement.
15:01 mtompset     Wasn't there some force upgrade option to reattempt previous updates somewhere?
14:57 jenkins_koha Starting build #1469 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #1451 4 days 15 hr ago)
14:57 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10403 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Pushed to Master , Add ability to set fund/budget on receipt
14:57 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11097 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Hide duplicate patron button if logged in user lacks CAN_user_borrowers permission
14:57 jenkins_koha * Jared Camins-Esakov: Bug 10403: Show inactive but unlocked budgets on orderreceive
14:57 jenkins_koha * Jared Camins-Esakov: Bug 10403: add ability to change fund on receipt
14:57 jenkins_koha * Owen Leonard: Bug 11097 - Hide duplicate patron button if logged in user lacks CAN_user_borrowers permission
14:57 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #1468: STILL UNSTABLE in 1 hr 52 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/1468/
14:55 gmcharlt     we could add something that warns on the staff home page or something if there's changes left to do for 030 (after data cleanup0
14:54 gmcharlt     yeah, I'll be curious to see how often that happens in the real world
14:52 mtompset     True, which could cause a problem updating later.
14:52 gmcharlt     hmm, though DBRrevs after that will be able to call their SetVersion()
14:52 mtompset     Guess I need more caffeine. :)
14:51 mtompset     AH! Didn't see it.
14:50 gmcharlt     3.13.00.030 can fail, and it doesn't call SetVersion if it does
14:50 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5336 new feature, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , Acq history search
14:50 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: Bug 5336: (follow-up) improve setting 'partial' order status during upgrade
14:50 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: Bug 5336: (follow-up) remove unused new parameter to NewOrder() that slipped in
14:50 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: Bug 5336: (follow-up) update DBIC schema class for aqorders
14:50 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: Bug 5336: DBRev 3.13.00.032
14:50 jenkins_koha * Jonathan Druart: Bug 5336: (follow-up) multiple QA fixes
14:50 jenkins_koha * Jonathan Druart: Bug 5336: (follow-up) fix case where partial status was not correctly set
14:50 jenkins_koha * Jonathan Druart: Bug 5336: (follow-up) use understandable codes rather than magic numbers for orderstatus
14:50 jenkins_koha * Jonathan Druart: Bug 5336: (follow-up) miscellaneous changes
14:50 jenkins_koha * Jonathan Druart: Bug 5336: (follow-up) add unit tests for 3 acq routines
14:50 jenkins_koha * Jonathan Druart: Bug 5336: (follow-up) merge parent ordernumber and ordernumber columns in display
14:50 jenkins_koha * Jonathan Druart: Bug 5336: (follow-up) don't display deleted orders in late orders search result
14:50 jenkins_koha * Jonathan Druart: Bug 5336: Order search (search and UI enhancements)
14:50 jenkins_koha Project master_maria build #176: STILL UNSTABLE in 48 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/master_maria/176/
14:49 gmcharlt     mtompset: which DBrev?
14:48 jenkins_koha Nicole C. Engard: add merging authorities
14:48 jenkins_koha Project Koha_Docs build #380: SUCCESS in 13 sec: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Docs/380/
14:48 jenkins_koha Starting build #380 for job Koha_Docs (previous build: SUCCESS)
14:42 mtompset     gmcharlt, do you see that?
14:41 mtompset     Only caught that, because I had to rebase a patch I'm working on.
14:40 mtompset     Missing SetVersion call in updatedatabase.pl
14:40 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10636 normal, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Pushed to Master , patronimage should have borrowernumber as PK, not cardnumber
14:40 mtompset     bug 10636
14:40 mtompset     10636
14:39 mtompset     BUG!
14:01 huginn       New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 5336: (follow-up) improve setting 'partial' order status during upgrade <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=eb0e1e6bba31a2e741ed9b074ba7e1c9dd0c6083> / Bug 5336: (follow-up) remove unused new parameter to NewOrder() that slipped in <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=904f9b06e05448c341fb407ecaac8ef237578242> / Bug 5336: (follow-up) update DBIC schema class for aq
14:01 jenkins_koha Starting build #176 for job master_maria (previous build: UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #174 7 hr 39 min ago)
13:50 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10403 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Pushed to Master , Add ability to set fund/budget on receipt
13:50 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11097 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Hide duplicate patron button if logged in user lacks CAN_user_borrowers permission
13:50 jenkins_koha * Jared Camins-Esakov: Bug 10403: Show inactive but unlocked budgets on orderreceive
13:50 jenkins_koha * Jared Camins-Esakov: Bug 10403: add ability to change fund on receipt
13:50 jenkins_koha * Owen Leonard: Bug 11097 - Hide duplicate patron button if logged in user lacks CAN_user_borrowers permission
13:50 jenkins_koha Project master_maria build #175: UNSTABLE in 49 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/master_maria/175/
13:09 huginn       New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 10403: Show inactive but unlocked budgets on orderreceive <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=d910cee85c30cd3981662fd8ae6483d3e4749e0e> / Bug 10403: add ability to change fund on receipt <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=480841965e08a6cf5ddf7086cc9a210223cffecb>
13:06 mtompset     If I signed something off, and it needs a rebase, can I rebase and squash patches without having to get it signed off again?
13:05 mtompset     Greetings, magnuse.
13:05 jenkins_koha Starting build #1468 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #1451 4 days 13 hr ago)
13:05 magnuse      hiya mtompset and jcamins
13:02 mtompset     Greetings, #koha.
13:01 jcamins      We got in around 11:30.
13:01 jenkins_koha Starting build #175 for job master_maria (previous build: SUCCESS)
12:59 talljoy      i'm sure.  i'm exhausted and i got home at 6pm
12:58 * druthb     is a tired geek.
12:57 huginn       New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 11097 - Hide duplicate patron button if logged in user lacks CAN_user_borrowers... <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=cb75b239215714416c43282b573ae653e55e29a8>
12:57 magnuse      :-)
12:54 talljoy      hi magnuse!
12:54 * magnuse    waves to talljoy
12:54 talljoy      heh
12:54 wahanui      i heard magnuse was a Norwegian giant.
12:54 druthb       magnuse!
12:53 wahanui      Well, she finally snapped, like we all knew she would.
12:53 magnuse      druthb!
12:53 druthb       on-time landing at BPT at 9:30, then the drive...
12:53 talljoy      ouch
12:53 druthb       got home about midnight
12:53 druthb       yep
12:52 talljoy      hi druthb you made it home in good time?
12:41 huginn       gmcharlt: Quote #117: "<druthb> basking ? You bask on the beach...one does not bask in the Potomac River basin...you melt or swelter or something, but you don't bask. :P" (added by jwagner at 01:17 PM, January 24, 2011)
12:41 gmcharlt     @quote random
11:11 keithsptr_   :)
11:11 keithsptr_   tks
10:57 mtj          if you have problems manually setting up your zebra and cron stuff… use the packages ;)
10:56 mtj          cool, well done
10:53 keithsptr_   manually
10:52 keithsptr_   I have changed the config file
10:52 keithsptr_   it worked now
10:44 mtj          keithsptr_, ok, no probs :)
10:28 keithsptr_   ok I will wait a bit
10:27 mtj          …or they might tell you to use the packages
10:27 mtj          fwiw, people in USA will be waking up soon - they might help your with your apache config problem
10:26 keithsptr_   thanks
10:26 keithsptr_   ok tks
10:25 mtj          the solution is to use the packages
10:25 mtj          your problem is a very common problem
10:24 mtj          …which does the apache config 'automagically'
10:23 mtj          you can solve it, by installing koha using the 'packages' method
10:22 keithsptr_   ??
10:22 keithsptr_   and how can I solve it
10:22 mtj          you have an apache config problem
10:21 keithsptr_   issue
10:21 keithsptr_   it is a problem with network issu
10:21 keithsptr_   so it is not a problem with how I installed it
10:21 keithsptr_   and externally it workd (the front end site)
10:20 keithsptr_   and as I said.. all works
10:20 mtj          …as Oak said, its too difficult to troubleshoot
10:19 mtj          the truth is… most people (myself included) wont help you if you install koha using a tar file, instead of using the packages
10:12 keithsptr_   I just want to access it externally
10:11 keithsptr_   locally it worked
10:11 huginn       keithsptr_: I'll give you the answer just as soon as RDA is ready
10:11 keithsptr_   @oak IT IS NOT A PROBLEM WITH THE INSTALLATON
10:11 keithsptr_   tks
10:11 huginn       keithsptr_: I'll give you the answer just as soon as RDA is ready
10:11 keithsptr_   @oak
10:09 * Oak        goes to watch birds on trees
10:09 keithsptr_   ?
10:09 keithsptr_   so the result is that it is not possible to get the user to log in to the admin from the outside
10:08 keithsptr_   from another pc
10:08 keithsptr_   sorry have logged
10:06 Oak          one the other hand, with the tarball method, we can't do guesswork about which of the hundreds of things you may have done wrong.
10:05 Oak          Keithsptr, because if you install from the package, it help us to resolve issues you may be facing easily... because a) it narrows down the problem from us b) most of us set-up Koha that way
10:01 mtj          if you get stuck, just hop on #irc and ask for help
10:00 mtj          Keithsptr, meaning…install koha with the 'package' installation method
09:51 Keithsptr    ??
09:47 Keithsptr    meaning
09:33 mtj          yeah, try a package install first
09:28 mtj          hmmm....
09:25 Keithsptr    the problem is that I want the users to access the admin externally
09:25 Keithsptr    and works fine
09:25 Keithsptr    it is already installed
09:25 mtj          ...look out for the 'Configure and Start Apache' section
09:24 mtj          if you insist on installing koha with a tar file, i recommend following these instructions -> http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Koha_on_ubuntu_-_tarball
09:22 mtj          if you are new to koha, use the debian packages
09:20 Keithsptr    so how do you currently log in the cataloging part
09:20 Keithsptr    you never had this issue
09:20 Keithsptr    so you don't know
09:17 mtj          ah, ok...
09:16 Keithsptr    it is a network issue
09:16 Keithsptr    it's no use re-install it again
09:16 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10954 minor, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Pushed to Master , Payment receipt does not display the payment made
09:16 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10785 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, ketan, Pushed to Master , dropbox should be book drop
09:16 jenkins_koha * Kyle M Hall: Bug 10954: ensure that payment receipt displays the payment made
09:16 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: Bug 10785: (follow-up) fix one last bit of capitalization
09:16 jenkins_koha * Ketan Kulkarni: Bug 10785: change 'Dropbox' labels to 'Book drop'
09:16 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #1467: STILL UNSTABLE in 1 hr 50 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/1467/
09:16 mtj          if you get stuck using the packages, just hop on #irc and ask for help
09:15 mtj          use the packages
09:14 Keithsptr    that didn't work for me... that is why I used makefile.PL
09:13 mtj          ok, try using these installation instructions, here -> http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Koha_3.x_on_Debian_Squeeze
09:12 Keithsptr    nothing
09:12 mtj          so, what do you get on port 8080?
09:11 Keithsptr    it is not working
09:11 mtj          well, thats how you do it ;)
09:10 Keithsptr    yes and that is what I want
09:10 mtj          access your koha's admin interface from port 8080
09:10 mtj          cataloguing is done from the 'admin' interface
09:09 Keithsptr    not where the cataloging is to be done
09:09 Keithsptr    but that gives me the external part
09:08 Keithsptr    meaning?
09:08 mtj          http://1.2.3.4:8080, etc...
09:08 mtj          Keithsptr, use your koha system's ip number, not 127.0.0.1
09:06 Keithsptr    me too. I don't know anything about networking
09:05 magnuse      i'm not very good at networking, i'm afraid
09:05 magnuse      then it's more of a general networking problem than a koha problem
09:05 magnuse      ah
09:04 Keithsptr    what I want is to be able to access it externally
09:04 Keithsptr    that works on a local pc
09:03 magnuse      just try 127.0.0.1:8080
09:03 magnuse      ok
09:03 Keithsptr    127.0.0.1
09:03 magnuse      where do you access the public part of koha? http://localhost/ ?
09:03 magnuse      there should be a file there with the apache config for your koha installation
09:02 magnuse      you need to figure out what you need to use instead of ...
09:02 magnuse      try to open /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/...
09:02 Keithsptr    where the cataloging is done
09:02 Keithsptr    the problem that I have is that I cannot access the back end
09:02 magnuse      hm, it's been a while since i did that
09:02 Keithsptr    installation was successfull
09:01 magnuse      ok
09:01 Keithsptr    I think it was tarball
09:01 Keithsptr    the one with makefile.PL
09:01 magnuse      ?
09:01 magnuse      which instructions did you follow
09:01 magnuse      ok
09:00 Keithsptr    on a local ubuntu laptop
09:00 magnuse      from packages or git or tarball?
09:00 magnuse      how did you install koha?
09:00 magnuse      i can try
09:00 Keithsptr    magnuse
09:00 Keithsptr    can you help me
08:59 Keithsptr    ok no problem
08:49 magnuse      Keithsptr: sorry for the quiet channel - a lot of the people who are usually here are at a conference in reno, usa and they are sleeping now :-)
08:37 Keithsptr    ohh ok
08:36 redbeard45   Only me but no one is answering my question either!
08:36 Keithsptr    etc
08:36 Keithsptr    I am able to connect to the front end where the user can change personal data
08:36 Keithsptr    is somebody there?
08:35 Keithsptr    where the cataloging is done
08:35 Keithsptr    can you tell me how I can connect to the back-end of Koha
08:34 Keithsptr    I have a small problem
08:34 Keithsptr    Hello
08:23 redbeard45   ...management tool We have an Excel spreadsheet of these resources. Is it possible to import this into Koha. Cheers and thanks
08:23 redbeard45   Just looking at using Koha but not as Library Management Software but for the managment of paper and media resources for specialist teachers who are located in 5 different offices around a city. The resources are stored in each location and often a suitable resource is in another location but no one expect those in that specific location. So I am looking for an online booking and resource...
07:30 magnuse      Oak
07:25 jenkins_koha Starting build #1467 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #1451 4 days 8 hr ago)
07:25 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10982 normal, P5 - low, ---, frederic, Pushed to Master , Link to IFLA UNIMARC documentation in Cataloging
07:25 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11099 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonetem, Pushed to Master , Label in Staff Client - series on facets not easily css selectable
07:25 jenkins_koha * Frédéric Demians: Bug 10982: fix link to IFLA UNIMARC documentation in Cataloging
07:25 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11002 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , Mandatory fields are not translatable
07:25 jenkins_koha * Jonet Moore: Bug 11099: fixed bug in Label in Staff Client - series on facets not easily css selectable
07:25 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: Bug 11002: (follow-up) use jQuery validator plugin
07:25 jenkins_koha * Jonathan Druart: Bug 11002: simplify patron mandatory field validation
07:25 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #1466: STILL UNSTABLE in 1 hr 50 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/1466/
07:23 Oak          magnuse
07:23 Oak          hello samueld
07:22 samueld      hello everybody
07:12 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10954 minor, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Pushed to Master , Payment receipt does not display the payment made
07:12 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10785 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, ketan, Pushed to Master , dropbox should be book drop
07:12 jenkins_koha * Kyle M Hall: Bug 10954: ensure that payment receipt displays the payment made
07:12 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: Bug 10785: (follow-up) fix one last bit of capitalization
07:12 jenkins_koha * Ketan Kulkarni: Bug 10785: change 'Dropbox' labels to 'Book drop'
07:12 jenkins_koha Project master_maria build #174: SUCCESS in 50 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/master_maria/174/
07:10 gaetan_B     hi magnuse :)
07:09 magnuse      bonjour gaetan_B
07:09 gaetan_B     hello
06:54 * magnuse    waves
06:42 wahanui      privet, reiveune
06:42 reiveune     hello
06:26 Guest3091    does koha implement "did you mean this feature" in opac in it's true sense?
06:22 jenkins_koha Starting build #174 for job master_maria (previous build: SUCCESS)
06:21 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10982 normal, P5 - low, ---, frederic, Pushed to Master , Link to IFLA UNIMARC documentation in Cataloging
06:21 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11099 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonetem, Pushed to Master , Label in Staff Client - series on facets not easily css selectable
06:21 jenkins_koha * Frédéric Demians: Bug 10982: fix link to IFLA UNIMARC documentation in Cataloging
06:21 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11002 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , Mandatory fields are not translatable
06:21 jenkins_koha * Jonet Moore: Bug 11099: fixed bug in Label in Staff Client - series on facets not easily css selectable
06:21 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: Bug 11002: (follow-up) use jQuery validator plugin
06:21 jenkins_koha * Jonathan Druart: Bug 11002: simplify patron mandatory field validation
06:21 jenkins_koha Project master_maria build #173: SUCCESS in 50 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/master_maria/173/
05:56 huginn       New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 10954: ensure that payment receipt displays the payment made <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=50e25d212a0298910a5b4322b475df550985fbea>
05:46 huginn       New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 10785: (follow-up) fix one last bit of capitalization <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=e0829b1a353ae69abcf026b50a47933cb992494b> / Bug 10785: change 'Dropbox' labels to 'Book drop' <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=5750f32519aa701cdf0cd158b6d9576e3a45f2a8>
05:35 huginn       New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 10982: fix link to IFLA UNIMARC documentation in Cataloging <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=814c463c24510ac0c1e7e240100833714089e86f> / Bug 11099: fixed bug in Label in Staff Client - series on facets not easily css selec... <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=ef6185d31f454a4766194cc4d823fe0210fefd21> / Bug 11002: (follow-up) use jQuery validator plugin <http
05:35 jenkins_koha Starting build #1466 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #1451 4 days 6 hr ago)
05:31 jenkins_koha Starting build #173 for job master_maria (previous build: SUCCESS)
05:11 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11003 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , JS error on the cart page
05:11 jenkins_koha Jonathan Druart: Bug 11003: fix JS error on the staff cart page
05:11 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #1465: STILL UNSTABLE in 1 hr 47 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/1465/
04:23 Oak          oh good.
04:04 * jcamins    has made it home.
04:03 Oak          Ahoy me hearties on a land far far away...
03:24 jenkins_koha Starting build #1465 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #1451 4 days 4 hr ago)
03:24 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11058 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, colin.campbell, Pushed to Master , Compile time warning issued by C4/Record.pm
03:24 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11070 minor, P5 - low, ---, fridolyn.somers, Pushed to Master , typo in UNIMARC 115a plugin
03:24 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11098 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, andrewlockettnz, Pushed to Master , Label in Opac - topics on facets not easily css selectable
03:24 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11102 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Pushed to Master , Label in Staff Client - places on facets not easily css selectable
03:23 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11106 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Label item type facet in staff client
03:23 jenkins_koha * Colin Campbell: Bug 11058: fix compilation warning in C4::Record
03:23 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11107 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, sue.tunnicliff, Pushed to Master , Label  in staff client - authors on facets not easily accessible
03:23 jenkins_koha * Bernardo Gonzalez Kriegel: Bug 11070: followup to correct tabs
03:23 jenkins_koha * Fridolyn SOMERS: Bug 11070: fix typo in UNIMARC 115a plugin
03:23 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11100 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Pushed to Master , Label in staff client - Topics on facets not easily css selectable
03:23 jenkins_koha * Andrew Lockett: Bug 11098: fixed bug in label in opac - topics on facets not easily css selectable
03:23 jenkins_koha * Gab Hikaka: Bug 11102: fixed bug in Label in Staff Client - places on facets not easily css selectable
03:23 jenkins_koha * Katherine Chisholm: Bug 11106: make label for Item types facet easily CSS selectable
03:23 jenkins_koha * Sue Tunnicliff: Bug 11107: make label for authors facet easily CSS selectable
03:23 jenkins_koha * raewyn adams: Bug 11100: make label for Topics facet easily CSS selectable
03:23 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #1464: STILL UNSTABLE in 1 hr 56 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/1464/
03:11 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11003 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , JS error on the cart page
03:11 jenkins_koha Jonathan Druart: Bug 11003: fix JS error on the staff cart page
03:11 jenkins_koha Project master_maria build #172: SUCCESS in 48 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/master_maria/172/
02:22 jenkins_koha Starting build #172 for job master_maria (previous build: SUCCESS)
02:22 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11058 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, colin.campbell, Pushed to Master , Compile time warning issued by C4/Record.pm
02:22 jenkins_koha Colin Campbell: Bug 11058: fix compilation warning in C4::Record
02:22 jenkins_koha Project master_maria build #171: SUCCESS in 48 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/master_maria/171/
01:49 huginn       New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 11003: fix JS error on the staff cart page <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=f66f34a4200593f07b596d02b880aaf456b0c3fa>
01:34 jenkins_koha Starting build #171 for job master_maria (previous build: SUCCESS)
01:34 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11070 minor, P5 - low, ---, fridolyn.somers, Pushed to Master , typo in UNIMARC 115a plugin
01:34 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11098 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, andrewlockettnz, Pushed to Master , Label in Opac - topics on facets not easily css selectable
01:34 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11102 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Pushed to Master , Label in Staff Client - places on facets not easily css selectable
01:34 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11106 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Label item type facet in staff client
01:33 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11107 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, sue.tunnicliff, Pushed to Master , Label  in staff client - authors on facets not easily accessible
01:33 jenkins_koha * Bernardo Gonzalez Kriegel: Bug 11070: followup to correct tabs
01:33 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11100 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Pushed to Master , Label in staff client - Topics on facets not easily css selectable
01:33 jenkins_koha * Fridolyn SOMERS: Bug 11070: fix typo in UNIMARC 115a plugin
01:33 jenkins_koha * Andrew Lockett: Bug 11098: fixed bug in label in opac - topics on facets not easily css selectable
01:33 jenkins_koha * Gab Hikaka: Bug 11102: fixed bug in Label in Staff Client - places on facets not easily css selectable
01:33 jenkins_koha * Katherine Chisholm: Bug 11106: make label for Item types facet easily CSS selectable
01:33 jenkins_koha * Sue Tunnicliff: Bug 11107: make label for authors facet easily CSS selectable
01:33 jenkins_koha * raewyn adams: Bug 11100: make label for Topics facet easily CSS selectable
01:33 jenkins_koha Project master_maria build #170: SUCCESS in 47 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/master_maria/170/
01:29 huginn       New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 11058: fix compilation warning in C4::Record <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=6bad4db6a76d719ad6ac7fec2d4c7ec87ec8aa95>
01:27 jenkins_koha Starting build #1464 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #1451 4 days 2 hr ago)
01:27 cait         wizzyrea: around?
01:27 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11015 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , Copyright headers are missing in some packages
01:27 jenkins_koha Jonathan Druart: Bug 11015: add copyright headers to some files
01:27 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #1463: STILL UNSTABLE in 1 hr 47 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/1463/
01:15 cait         thank you!
01:15 gmcharlt     cait: 7791, looks like
01:13 cait         hi eythian :)
01:13 cait         haven't found the mail yet :) pointers welcome
01:13 eythian      hi cait
01:13 gmcharlt     cait++
01:11 cait         having another go and that git reject thing hopefully
01:09 cait         :)
01:09 cait         boo
00:47 huginn       New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 11070: followup to correct tabs <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=481eb9b284a55906367888045e092edc1f062a96> / Bug 11070: fix typo in UNIMARC 115a plugin <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=9039c8bb74b80eb7d9e32698ec6f15a5673d7de4>
00:46 jenkins_koha Starting build #170 for job master_maria (previous build: SUCCESS)
00:43 dpk          I am about to head home.   I have updated the bug with a possible path forward.
00:42 oleonard     dpk: Everyone is breaking for dinner now
00:41 dcook        ^^ above added by tcohen himself :p
00:41 dcook        marcxml_master branch at https://github.com/tomascohen/koha.git
00:40 dcook        #koha: preliminary work on moving away from ISO to MARCXML can be found on tcohen's github branch
00:37 huginn       New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 11098: fixed bug in label in opac - topics on facets not easily css selectable <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=cc3469eff7f5ae2fb7ff9b57b7eb6c1d0d4bc161> / Bug 11102: fixed bug in Label in Staff Client - places on facets not easily css selec... <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=acdf8df3709c0c9c3e5cf0dae463b39071dfe6d0> / Bug 11106: make label for Item types
00:18 rangi        great feedback for them to get a mail on the same day
00:18 rangi        oleonard: it really helps there were all a bunch of librarians learning how to be a developer in 90 seconds
00:14 dpk          I have not found any good examples under misc/*
00:14 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11078 enhancement, P4, ---, dpk, Failed QA , rebuild_zebra.pl can lose updates due to race condition during full rebuilds
00:14 dpk          Does anyone now how I can change the string in a perl script to reflect an alternate DESTDIR/"configuration directory setting" per khall's recent comment on bug 11078?
00:10 oleonard     Whoops I did too many
00:10 oleonard     I did a few and then stopped because I didn't want to jump to the top of the scoreboard for signing off on single-line patches
00:08 rangi        110somethingsomething
00:08 rangi        they are all in the 11k range
00:07 cait         someone got bug numbers for me?
00:07 cait         didn't get to see those yet
00:07 cait         oleonard++
00:01 rangi        oleonard++ #signing off all the lianza patches