Time Nick Message
23:48 jenkins_koha Starting build #152 for job master_maria (previous build: FIXED)
23:48 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8798 enhancement, P3, ---, elliott, Pushed to Master , Add the use of DBIx::Class
23:48 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: Bug 8798: (follow-up) remove DBIC_DONT_VALIDATE_RELS
23:48 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10096 new feature, P5 - low, ---, dcook, Pushed to Master , Add a Z39.50 interface for authority searching
23:48 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: Bug 10096: (follow-up) fix typo introduced in previous followup
23:48 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: Bug 10565: (follow-up) ensure that new patron_lists/ CGI directory is installed
23:48 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: Bug 10565: (follow-up) improve navigation aids
23:48 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: Bug 10565: (follow-up) add new user permission for patron list management
23:48 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=15065 was not found.
23:47 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: Bug 10565: (follow-up) make add list/edit list labels sensitive to context
23:47 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: Bug 10565: (follow-up) use datatables.inc
23:47 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: Bug 15065: (follow-up) update license header
23:47 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: Bug 10565: (follow-up) refresh DBIC schema class files
23:47 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10565 new feature, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Pushed to Master , Add a "Patron List" feature for storing and manipulating collections of patrons
23:47 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: Bug 10565: DBrev 3.13.00.031
23:47 jenkins_koha * Kyle M Hall: Bug 10565: (follow-up) don't assume borrowernumber 1 exists in unit test
23:47 jenkins_koha * Kyle M Hall: Bug 10565: Add a "Patron List" feature for storing and manipulating collections of patrons
23:47 jenkins_koha Project master_maria build #151: FIXED in 46 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/master_maria/151/
23:47 jenkins_koha Yippie, build fixed!
23:46 paul_p gmcharlt yep : we had a huge breakfast at 10AM, so decided to go for only a 2nd meal at 5PM today ;-)
23:45 gmcharlt paul_p: are you eating all the meals all at once? ;)
23:45 paul_p I'm hungry... fortunately, time for lunch & afternoon tea & dinner at the same time, in some minuts...
23:35 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Merge branch 'bootstrap-opac' <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=3684de639cfd9b7af0eea5a487f2d59016b886bd> / Bug 10309: (follow-up) apply another follow-up for 10856, improve shelf browser <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=b16cc61e8bc7a5ade7183c3ca4c4d8d7a128ac4b> / Bug 10309: (follow-up) Markup fix from Bug 10566 follow-up <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p
23:21 jenkins_koha Starting build #1447 for job Koha_master (previous build: FAILURE -- last SUCCESS #1444 3 days 17 hr ago)
23:21 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: Bug 8798: (follow-up) add libdbix-class-schema-loader-perl to koha-perldeps
23:21 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: Bug 8798: (follow-up) update the DBIC schema class files
23:21 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10636 normal, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Pushed to Master , patronimage should have borrowernumber as PK, not cardnumber
23:21 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: bug 8798: (follow-up) pass DB connection params to DBIC schema updater explicitly
23:21 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: Bug 10636: DBrev 3.13.00.030
23:21 jenkins_koha * Kyle M Hall: Bug 10636 - patronimage should have borrowernumber as PK, not cardnumber
23:21 jenkins_koha * Chris Cormack: Bug 8798: moving code to Koha::Database and adding tests
23:21 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8798 enhancement, P3, ---, elliott, Pushed to Master , Add the use of DBIx::Class
23:21 jenkins_koha * Kyle M Hall: Bug 8798: (follow-up) update schema files
23:21 jenkins_koha * Elliott Davis: Bug 8798: (follow-up) remove tabs
23:21 jenkins_koha * Kyle M Hall: Bug 8798: (follow-up) rename schema class updater script
23:21 jenkins_koha * Elliott Davis: Bug 8798: DBIx::Class base classes for all Koha tables
23:21 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #1446: FAILURE in 1 hr 46 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/1446/
23:15 wizzyrea gitify is great.
23:12 cait rangi++ # for teaching me to gitify
23:10 eythian heh
23:10 cait it's before dinner here? :)
23:10 cait nope
23:09 eythian shouldn't you be asleep?
23:09 eythian hi cait
23:09 * cait waves
23:05 eythian that's really ungood.
23:05 eythian # spent 2.01s within DBI::st::execute which was called 1718 times, avg 1.17ms/call: # 270 times (259ms+0s) by C4::Branch::GetBranches at line 125 of /usr/share/koha/lib/C4/Branch.pm, avg 959µs/call
23:04 eythian wow
23:04 eythian > Profile of /usr/share/koha/opac/cgi-bin/opac/opac-search.pl for 10.4s, executing 1170022 statements and 297042 subroutine calls in 336 source files and 155 string evals.
23:01 jenkins_koha Starting build #151 for job master_maria (previous build: FAILURE -- last SUCCESS #149 3 days 8 hr ago)
22:55 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 8798: (follow-up) remove DBIC_DONT_VALIDATE_RELS <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=d1ddce95d4730e97e90431b1b71247a822460808> / Bug 10096: (follow-up) fix typo introduced in previous followup <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=96974dc2893d518172672648c49f73ea90b5a7a7> / Bug 10565: (follow-up) ensure that new patron_lists/ CGI directory is installed <http://git.
22:17 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: Bug 8798: (follow-up) add libdbix-class-schema-loader-perl to koha-perldeps
22:17 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: Bug 8798: (follow-up) update the DBIC schema class files
22:17 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10636 normal, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Pushed to Master , patronimage should have borrowernumber as PK, not cardnumber
22:17 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: bug 8798: (follow-up) pass DB connection params to DBIC schema updater explicitly
22:17 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: Bug 10636: DBrev 3.13.00.030
22:17 jenkins_koha * Kyle M Hall: Bug 10636 - patronimage should have borrowernumber as PK, not cardnumber
22:17 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8798 enhancement, P3, ---, elliott, Pushed to Master , Add the use of DBIx::Class
22:17 jenkins_koha * Chris Cormack: Bug 8798: moving code to Koha::Database and adding tests
22:17 jenkins_koha * Kyle M Hall: Bug 8798: (follow-up) update schema files
22:17 jenkins_koha * Elliott Davis: Bug 8798: (follow-up) remove tabs
22:17 jenkins_koha * Kyle M Hall: Bug 8798: (follow-up) rename schema class updater script
22:17 jenkins_koha * Elliott Davis: Bug 8798: DBIx::Class base classes for all Koha tables
22:17 jenkins_koha Project master_maria build #150: FAILURE in 46 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/master_maria/150/
22:13 mtompset Have a great day, #koha.
22:09 rhcl ltr....
22:08 mtompset Short nap, then wake up again to chat with colleagues in the Philippines.
22:08 rhcl time to get some sleep now?
22:07 mtompset I tweaked a barcode, waited 5 minutes, and it indexed it properly. YAY!
22:06 mtompset YES! We have working indexing again.
21:53 mtompset okay... turning back on the cronjob, and hopefully nothing breaks. :)
21:51 rhcl http://www.rhcl.org/content/jobs
21:41 talljoy hi cait! how's reno?
21:40 wahanui packages is, like, at http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Debian
21:40 cait packages?
21:35 jenkins_koha Starting build #1446 for job Koha_master (previous build: UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #1444 3 days 15 hr ago)
21:31 jenkins_koha Starting build #150 for job master_maria (previous build: SUCCESS)
21:30 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 8798: (follow-up) add libdbix-class-schema-loader-perl to koha-perldeps <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=d33f9b6d8442390d009c2447df18c026f7b9ff1b> / Bug 8798: (follow-up) update the DBIC schema class files <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=da07b41e115fc4d3012a28e3746edaf4242de653> / bug 8798: (follow-up) pass DB connection params to DBIC schema updater expli
21:29 eythian that's a good plan, as that'll stop the limited space affecting anything else, too. Just make sure it gets cleaned out on boot (which may happen automatically, I'm not sure.)
21:28 mtompset So by putting it in /etc/environment and rebooting, it works.
21:28 mtompset Stupid caching of TMPDIR.
21:27 eythian Yeah, I saw
21:27 mtompset Greetings, eythian. I figured out how to get TMPDIR to work. :)
21:25 eythian hi
21:23 mtompset I don't know how the dom lines got into the XML file.
21:23 mtompset Yes, that is what everything else says in the configuration files.
21:23 gmcharlt mtompset: your actual indexing mode is GRS1, I take it?
21:23 mtompset I uncommented them, and that message came back.
21:22 mtompset These are likely the culprits.
21:22 mtompset <zebra_auth_index_mode>dom</zebra_auth_index_mode>
21:22 mtompset <zebra_bib_index_mode>dom</zebra_bib_index_mode>
21:22 mtompset BINGO!
21:13 wizzyrea ooo
21:09 mtompset Also helps that I disabled the 5 minute cronjob while doing the full reindex too, I think. :)
21:07 mtompset And now, i'm going to try to figure out which part of it caused it to work in under 3 hours. :)
21:07 wizzyrea :)
21:06 mtompset http://kohadevreactions.tumblr.com/post/56230429704/remembered-how-to-rebase-onto-first-try
21:06 mtompset No, it's more like that tyra banks one.
21:03 wizzyrea http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m5ji9v52201ry10fwo1_500.gif < probably your face right now
21:02 mtompset Something worked.
21:02 mtompset PRAISE THE LORD!
20:54 mtompset ARG! I've got 3 hours to get my production system working, and indexing has gone to hell. ARG!
20:53 magnuse have fun #koha!
20:49 huginn magnuse: Karma for "ios7" has been increased 0 times and decreased 1 time for a total karma of -1.
20:49 magnuse @karma ios7
20:49 magnuse lonelyplanet-- for only allowing 5 downloads and ios7-- for gobbling them all up without giving me an ebook i can read
20:48 magnuse lonelyplanet++ for having a drm-free ebook about argentina
20:36 rangi i just was talking to nate, paul_p and I are working on our presentation down in the lobby thing by the lifts
20:35 rangi but i found some massive can of iced tea instead, so all was not lost
20:34 rangi closed hehe
20:34 talljoy how was the library rangi
20:33 talljoy hiya!
20:32 wahanui i think talljoy is one of the few women that can see eye to eye with druthb. Almost all the others need to stand on a box.
20:32 rangi hey talljoy
20:19 magnuse hehe, noted
20:16 gmcharlt *collected
20:16 gmcharlt magnuse: a tangential answer to your question: the collective works of Jorge Luis Borges :)
20:12 magnuse can anyone recommend a good guidebook for argentina? ;-)
20:11 magnuse that looks like a setting for the zebra bib index mode ;-)
19:54 mtompset What is this in the koha-conf.xml file?
19:54 mtompset <zebra_bib_index_mode>dom</zebra_bib_index_mode>
19:54 mtompset wait a second...
19:47 huginn druthb: The current temperature in Greenway Plaza, Houston, Texas is 28.3°C (2:47 PM CDT on October 14, 2013). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 58%. Dew Point: 19.0°C. Pressure: 29.96 in 1014 hPa (Falling).
19:47 druthb @wunder 77098
19:46 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 6.0°C (9:20 PM CEST on October 14, 2013). Conditions: Light Rain Showers. Humidity: 93%. Dew Point: 5.0°C. Windchill: 1.0°C. Pressure: 29.92 in 1013 hPa (Steady).
19:46 magnuse @wunder boo
19:46 magnuse :-)
19:46 druthb :)
19:46 cait s
19:46 cait we were walking in t-shirt
19:46 cait it's qute sunny and warm outside
19:41 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in MidTown, Reno, Nevada is 11.8°C (12:30 PM PDT on October 14, 2013). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 50%. Dew Point: 2.0°C. Pressure: 30.24 in 1024 hPa (Falling).
19:41 magnuse @wunder reno, nv
19:37 magnuse hiya cait
19:27 magnuse s/disconcering/disconcerting/
19:27 magnuse they don't seem to do any harm, but it is rather disconcering
19:27 mtompset Because I'm wondering if me editing my koha-conf.xml to have correct paths is causing my problem.
19:26 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9749 normal, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Placeholders in koha-conf.xml generated by the Debian packages
19:26 magnuse Bug 9749
19:26 magnuse there is a bug for it
19:26 magnuse mtompset: it does
19:16 mtompset Just to triple check. The /etc/koha/sites/library/koha-conf.xml file should not have things like __KOHA_CONF_DIR__ in it, right?
19:13 kathryn hi mtompset (I just can't stop saying "morning")
19:12 mtompset Greetings, kathryn.
19:09 kathryn morning all :)
18:52 jcamins I can't believe it was a month ago already that it was pushed.
18:51 phasefx yeah, I need to learn how to do all of this :)
18:50 jcamins Or you could even install 3.12.5 and check.
18:50 jcamins Should be pretty obvious.
18:50 jcamins phasefx: I meant you could just take a look at the code, actually.
18:49 * phasefx tries kicking the rust off of his environment
18:48 jcamins I'm not sure, but you could take a look at the patch.
18:48 phasefx and that feature is likely for record creation and record overlay? (same interface?)
18:46 mtompset (unless the comments say otherwise)
18:46 mtompset just because it hit stable doesn't mean it hit master.
18:44 jcamins Oh, looks like it's already been pushed.
18:44 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10678 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Pushed to Stable , Allow framework selection when creating from Z39.50
18:44 wahanui i think bug 10678 is a nice and harmless improvement
18:44 jcamins bug 10678
18:42 phasefx my search-fu was weak
18:42 phasefx 10678
18:40 jcamins It might even be waiting for you to sign off on it.
18:40 phasefx jcamins++ that's what I was wanting to hear, thanks
18:40 jcamins I don't have a bug number, but it's pretty recent.
18:40 jcamins phasefx: there's a patch making it possible to choose a framework for Z39.50.
18:39 wahanui phasefx: that doesn't look right
18:39 phasefx change this?
18:39 phasefx hey folks, I have a library that uses the Fast cataloging feature, and then overlays the records later with Z39.50. The problem is that the incoming data is filtered through the still-set Fast Add framework, so the cataloger loses certain tags if they don't change the framework beforehand. Am I overlooking anything, does it seem bug-database worthy, and/or is there a feature coming that will
18:22 mtompset The /etc/koha's are identical between QA and Live systems.
18:22 mtompset Oh this is very annoying.
17:54 mtompset Bye, cait, cait_m.
17:52 cait_m meeting the others downstairs...going to explore the library :)
17:52 cait_m me too
17:49 mtompset Bye, magnuse.
17:49 mtompset YAY!
17:49 * magnuse has to run
17:49 magnuse w00t!
17:48 cait_m made it safely
17:48 cait_m hi magnuse
17:48 cait_m hi druthb
17:48 magnuse cait_m!
17:48 druthb cait!
17:46 mtompset I'm in / :)
17:46 mtompset Hopefully that will find it.
17:46 mtompset for i in `sudo find .`; do sudo grep collection.abs $i; done
17:39 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=2684 normal, PATCH-Sent (DO NOT USE), ---, nahuel.angelinetti, CLOSED FIXED, CSV report in ISO-8859
17:39 magnuse bug 2684 was fixed way back in 3.2
17:31 magnuse i don't think reports and csv profiles are related
17:30 haxan ok thanks but what i mean is that reports are is ascii not utf-8 i want to change that but i cant create profiles csv
17:29 mtompset Not familiar with that, so I can't say either way.
17:27 haxan but i cant
17:27 haxan i want to create to utf-8
17:27 haxan my saql report is with weird characters
17:27 haxan it doesnt' work
17:27 haxan in koha 3.8
17:27 haxan about profile csv
17:27 haxan Do you if there is a bug
17:27 mtompset Greetings, haxan
17:27 haxan hi guys
17:25 mtompset Hmmm... found a problem in the koha-conf.xml... let's see if that is related... starts reindex again. :)
17:22 mtompset Don't think so.
17:20 magnuse is coellection.abs something you added?
17:20 magnuse i have only heard of record.abs, i think
17:14 mtompset Hmmm... just /etc
17:14 mtompset sudo find / -name "collection.abs" -- finds nothing, as expected.
17:12 magnuse grep through places like /etc for "collection.abs"?
17:03 mtompset I don't get the same error on my QA system, but I get this on my Production system. :(
17:02 mtompset 00:51:57-15/10 zebraidx(32385) [warn] Couldn't open collection.abs [No such file or directory]
17:02 mtompset I'm spinning my wheels on this... Do you know anything about where to find a configuration file that would tell zebraidx to look for a particular .abs file?
17:01 magnuse hiya mtompset
17:00 mtompset Greetings, magnuse.
16:59 * magnuse waves
16:28 * mtompset smiles.
16:28 Oak in that case i'll let you do your thing :)
16:28 mtompset so, I did it on live.
16:27 mtompset It worked on the test machine. :P
16:27 Oak well. always play on a test machine. not on the real thing at midnight with a cold :)
16:27 Oak ah
16:26 Oak *sigh* geeks!
16:26 mtompset No can do... people wake up in 7.5 hours.
16:26 Oak give yourself a break. rest.
16:26 mtompset I need to solve this before I sleep again.
16:26 mtompset This is part of my indexing nightmares.
16:25 Oak mtompset, "slow down you crazy child" (tm)
16:25 mtompset Where is this file supposed to be?
16:25 rangi yep heading down now too
16:25 cait1 i will head down now
16:25 mtompset 00:11:29-15/10 zebraidx(17800) [warn] Couldn't open collection.abs [No such file or directory]
16:25 mtompset Uh oh.
16:25 cait1 :)
16:25 cait1 you shocked me
16:24 rangi sorry in 10 mins
16:24 rangi ok meeting jd at the elevators at 10
16:24 wahanui i already had it that way, paul_p.
16:24 paul_p cait mine is too. That's why parrot is probably OK, because we can have something closer to lunch than http://www.atlantiscasino.com/dining/gourmet-grind/, that is dedicated to coffee & pastry
16:24 paul_p cait1 I said:
16:24 mtompset Since, I just bypassed a major problem. :)
16:24 Oak sleep is good
16:24 mtompset After I finish my lunch and drink some more water and pop some more vitamin C... more sleep. :)
16:24 Oak nah don't worry may be next year...
16:23 Oak uh oh. take good care of yourself mtompset
16:23 mtompset Good thing I was too poor to go to KohaCon. Wouldn't want anyone to have this.
16:23 cait1 hm wifi kicked me off :(
16:23 mtompset Bad allergies and a cold.
16:22 Oak i'm good, how are you mtompset ?
16:22 paul_p cait mine is too. That's why parrot is probably OK, because we can have something closer to lunch than http://www.atlantiscasino.com/dining/gourmet-grind/, that is dedicated to coffee & pastry
16:22 mtompset Oak: How are you? :)
16:22 Oak np :)
16:21 cait aw thx Oak
16:21 * Oak give one cookie back to cait
16:21 cait so i already missed... breakfast and lunch? :)
16:21 cait i think my meal schedule is still on german time
16:20 * cait has been for a while
16:20 paul_p and yes, i'm hungry now ;-)
16:20 paul_p cait parrot is OK for me
16:18 * cait just throws something out there to speed things up
16:18 cait have we decided on the parrot? :)
16:18 Oak :)
16:18 * cait sends Oak cookies
16:18 Oak i can imagine
16:17 * Oak is jelous
16:17 cait Oak: fun and a little hm surreal?
16:17 Oak this must be fun.... one moment you are on IRC (just like the whole year) and the next moment you are on a breakfast table....
16:17 cait saw it after i replied to your tweet :)
16:16 cait oh jd answered
16:16 Oak french for micro must have been closer to nano... hence the.... nano-usb right
16:16 cait it's from my phone,so i guess itshould work
16:15 cait i am bringing it to breakfast
16:15 paul_p cait yes I do. And i'll buy one asap.
16:15 paul_p (micro usb)
16:14 cait do you have a power adapter?
16:14 cait bringing it down, but might need it tomorrow
16:14 cait hm i think i might have one
16:14 paul_p rangi / cait = do you have a nano-usb <=> usb cable ? I forgot mine, and can't recharge my galaxy S4 :(
16:12 rangi if we dont hear from her soon, i figure we will grab breakfast and catch up with her later
16:12 rangi i just tweeted jd
16:12 rangi storify is annoying me, trying rebelmouse instead
16:09 reiveune bye
16:05 cait not helpful :)
16:05 rangi 15 something something
16:05 cait we could try knocking or calling
16:05 cait do you have her room number?
16:05 cait hm
16:04 rangi hmm i wonder if jd is still asleep, or cant get on irc
16:03 cait paul_p: 7th floor
16:02 rangi cya rambutan
16:02 rambutan rambutan_off
16:02 rambutan I need to get my day started, visit the community gardens, buy coffee, pack... see some of you tomorrow
16:02 rangi im in same tower 604
16:01 jcamins Huh. It's actually cooler in Reno than in Forest Hills.
16:00 paul_p rangi cait which rooms are you ? I'm dolphin tower, room 844
16:00 paul_p cait I would "medium" hunger
16:00 cait paul_p: how hungry are you? :)
15:59 rangi i can see popeyes chicken from here, but im not mean enough to suggest that for breakfast
15:59 rambutan better dig out a jacket
15:59 rangi it got to 0
15:59 rangi yeah cars were all iced up this morning
15:59 rambutan oh, bit chilly
15:59 huginn rambutan: The current temperature in MidTown, Reno, Nevada is 1.8°C (8:45 AM PDT on October 14, 2013). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 66%. Dew Point: -4.0°C. Windchill: 2.0°C. Pressure: 30.29 in 1026 hPa (Rising).
15:59 rambutan @wunder reno, nv
15:58 rangi the other restaurants open around 11
15:57 cait there are also 2 smaller things where you can get coffee and pastries
15:57 rangi are open this morning, as well as the coffee places
15:57 rangi http://www.atlantiscasino.com/dining/toucan-charlies-buffet
15:57 rangi that and
15:57 rangi paul_p: http://www.atlantiscasino.com/dining/purple-parrot
15:56 rambutan nothing
15:56 rangi paul_p: i think probably the purple parrot
15:56 cait what did he do? :)
15:56 rangi heh
15:56 rambutan rangi: dude, you've been on it since July 16, 2004
15:55 paul_p cait / rangi = do you know where we can have breakfast ?
15:55 cait jcamins: i was thinking something similar :)
15:55 paul_p hi cait !
15:55 jcamins At least your next flight is *out* of the country.
15:55 jcamins lol
15:54 rangi im pretty sure my latest tweet just put me on the nsa watch list
15:54 cait storify worked for me :)
15:53 cait hm.
15:53 cait and now it suddenly connected...
15:53 rangi i had to reload 3 times then it showed up
15:53 rambutan yep, there it is
15:53 rangi reload it might show
15:53 rangi storify is having some issues it seems
15:52 rambutan off to a slow start? it 404's
15:51 rangi http://storify.com/ranginui/kohacon13 ill be trying to keep this up to date
15:50 rangi just waiting for jd to show up on irc then we can meet somewhere
15:50 cait_m paul_p: ready for breakfast?
15:50 cait_m i still have problems connecting to irc :( using the web thing now
15:50 cait_m ah there he is
15:49 rangi nope not sleeping
15:49 cait_m he said he would be on irc again later
15:49 cait_m paul_p: hm we wandered around the arcade earlier
15:49 paul_p rangi still sleeping ?
15:49 mtompset And no, that isn't me. just a random photo from the internet.
15:48 mtompset A field like that.
15:48 mtompset http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-sdCcVNpZ0lw/T5d1U1ptLII/AAAAAAAAA18/5XGev7EwY6o/s1600/tulip+fields+Kevin.jpg
15:47 rambutan or the coca-cola song is more better maybe?
15:46 mtompset Or tall grass.
15:46 mtompset I don't usually think of tulips, more like marigolds. :)
15:45 rambutan a la tiny tim?
15:45 mtompset Why do I feel there is supposed to be music with people running through a field towards each other? ;)
15:44 rambutan meliss!
15:44 mtompset Woo hoo! The temp files are created in /var/tmp now! YAY!
15:44 druthb mtompset! :D
15:44 mtompset druthb! :)
15:43 druthb rambutan!
15:43 rambutan druthb!
15:42 rambutan ah, ok, well, yea
15:41 mtompset Well, the server is in Singapore, but the People using it are in India and the Philippines (to give the breadth of timezones)
15:41 rambutan so you're working on a remote server there?
15:40 mtompset If so, I can do it live, since everyone in the Philippines is asleep. :)
15:40 mtompset Rebooting the QA server, and seeing if this bypasses the problem. :)
15:39 mtompset I think we have a hack now.
15:38 mtompset That has got to be the dumbest, annoying bug there is.
15:37 huginn mtompset: The operation succeeded.
15:37 mtompset @later tell eythian I found it: https://rt.cpan.org/Public/Bug/Display.html?id=74349 version 3.33 is what I have installed.
15:36 mtompset partially.
15:34 rambutan did you get your vserver issues resolved?
15:30 mtompset Greetings, rambutan.
15:30 rambutan morning mtompset
15:13 huginn mtompset: eythian was last seen in #koha 10 hours, 10 minutes, and 7 seconds ago: <eythian> Hopefully it works, I'll catch you later.
15:13 mtompset @seen eythian
15:13 mtompset Greetings, #koha.
15:03 jenkins_koha Nicole C. Engard: add overdrive prefs
15:03 jenkins_koha Project Koha_Docs build #373: SUCCESS in 10 sec: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Docs/373/
15:02 jenkins_koha Starting build #373 for job Koha_Docs (previous build: SUCCESS)
14:08 paul_p magnuse going back to bed though = 23 hours flight (including almost 2 hours delay for last connexion), 9 hours jet lag. It deserve a "grasse matinée" ;-) (and I've breakfast planned at 9 with rangi)
14:03 jenkins_koha * Nicole C. Engard: fix typo
14:03 jenkins_koha * Nicole C. Engard: add info about z searching to authorities
14:03 jenkins_koha Project Koha_Docs build #372: SUCCESS in 10 sec: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Docs/372/
14:03 jenkins_koha Starting build #372 for job Koha_Docs (previous build: SUCCESS)
14:01 jenkins_koha Nicole C. Engard: add more to z39.50 admin
14:01 jenkins_koha Project Koha_Docs_3.12.x build #19: SUCCESS in 10 sec: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Docs_3.12.x/19/
14:01 jenkins_koha Starting build #19 for job Koha_Docs_3.12.x (previous build: SUCCESS)
13:48 jenkins_koha Nicole C. Engard: add authority z info
13:48 jenkins_koha Project Koha_Docs build #371: SUCCESS in 11 sec: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Docs/371/
13:48 jenkins_koha Starting build #371 for job Koha_Docs (previous build: SUCCESS)
13:36 magnuse 7am sounds like a normal morning, though :-)
13:35 paul_p hi magnus. Yes, I'm in Reno. It's 7AM here, but I can't sleep anymore (jetlag...)
13:35 magnuse paul_p: not in reno yet?
13:28 magnuse lucky you :-)
13:27 nengard not til later - but yes :)
13:27 magnuse kia ora nengard! travaeling today? :-)
13:13 druthb sorta.
13:12 magnuse hehe
13:12 druthb yes.
13:12 * druthb scratches herself.
13:12 magnuse just itching to go to reno, eh?
13:12 wahanui Well, she finally snapped, like we all knew she would.
13:12 magnuse druthb!
13:10 wahanui magnuse is a Norwegian giant.
13:10 druthb magnuse!
13:04 magnuse no problem!
13:00 pug thanks though!
12:59 pug and yeah magnuse = !(cataloguer)
12:59 pug The description on the wiki link didnt suffice hence I thought Id check on the IRC .. $z tip is useful! .. Thanks .. magnuse++
12:56 * magnuse is not a cataloguer
12:56 magnuse you might want to consider "952$z - Public note" for your purposes. put "disc 2 of a 3 disc set" or something
12:55 magnuse pug: this is what i use whenever i wonder about something related to 952: http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Holdings_data_fields_%289xx%29
12:50 pug Also I couldnt find if total number of dvds should go into 952$3? .. COuldnt find the exact function of 952$3. Can you help on that?
12:49 pug so in effect for a 3dvd-movie set ... have 3 * (all 952 fields ) ..
12:48 pug ok ...
12:48 magnuse so the workaround will be to have one 952 per barcode, so to speak
12:47 magnuse none of the 952 fields are repeatable. they map directly to the db so that would be hard to do...
12:47 pug absolutely
12:47 magnuse pug still around?
11:19 huginn mtompset: The operation succeeded.
11:19 mtompset @later tell eythian "File::Spec::Unix checks $ENV{TMPDIR} (unless taint is on) and /tmp." -- could taint be on, and thus prevent the checking of TMPDIR?
11:18 mtompset eythian: Are you concious?
11:18 mtompset Greetings, #koha.
11:08 pug so if one has more than one DVD for a movie, with 2 separate barcodes for 2 dvds -- do you repeat 952$h or do you repeat the complete 952 holdings tag?
11:07 pug Do you know how if 952$h (serial information) is repeatable in 952?
11:06 pug kivilahtio: SOrry, not sure
10:53 kivilahtio simply paramerters/test material are 150 LOC
10:53 kivilahtio simply paramerters are 150 LOC
10:52 kivilahtio I could use a relative path but that might be a pretty poor solution
10:51 kivilahtio Any idea how to make cross-directory Testing libraries? I need a central UseBranchTransferLimits.pm library to hold the parameters and stuff for the complex TransferLimits tests. The thing is that the test scripts in t/db_dependent/* && C4/SIP/t/* need to share the same test settings and parameters
07:35 samueld i'm preparing some vm with koha 3.12
07:29 kivilahtio hi samueld
07:29 samueld hi everybody
07:21 kivilahtio but I guess you can undo a HARD reset?
07:21 kivilahtio no HARD resets
07:21 kivilahtio WaylonR: I was thinkking about copying code between branches originating from master
07:21 WaylonR should be enough?
07:20 WaylonR commit.
07:20 WaylonR copy changed files back.
07:20 WaylonR git reset --hard origin/master
07:20 WaylonR copy all the files i changed to somewhere else..
07:20 WaylonR ah
07:18 kivilahtio WaylonR: but like my post suggests, I am not a git expert
07:18 kivilahtio then you can just remove the old branch
07:17 WaylonR right.
07:17 kivilahtio I just redo my commit hisotry manually based on the difference between master and my current work
07:16 kivilahtio WaylonR: What I am about to do is have the code I have and some mess of commits, and just split all these modifications I have to reasonable commits manually. So just git diff master..branchName and then make new proper commits to a new branch from master
07:11 WaylonR or, if removing that file from the old commit will even work, to show the correct diff for the current syspref... might have to delete this current commit and commit the files again, for a different diff.
07:10 WaylonR so.. how you fix? i have no idea how many commits ago, the change was made. from old syspref format to new.
07:09 WaylonR kivilahtio, I probably did git fetch and failed to merge the old with the new.. probably ignored it, thinking that the new mysqldump format was the old version.. and committed overtop.
07:04 kivilahtio WaylonR: Sounds like an git issue, you could try this. http://gitimmersion.com/index.html I know I am doing that today.
06:57 kivilahtio hyvää huomenta
06:53 alex_a bonjour
06:46 WaylonR just need to work on test plan, then submit new patch.. though.. I kinda messed up, seems that I commited a old syspref.sql file awhile ago.. and only now fixed it, so... my last commit totally replaces sysprefs.sql.... with the current one + my mods to it... oops
06:44 WaylonR Updated for current origin/master
06:43 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9055 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, wrobertson1981, Patch doesn't apply , Mandumah.com's multiple branch search, multiple branch security mod
06:43 WaylonR bug 9055
06:43 WaylonR ?
06:43 WaylonR hiya all. anyone able to help me out with creating a test plan for a bugzilla update on 9055
06:42 marcelr hi #koha
06:42 magnuse bonjour reiveune
06:40 reiveune hello
06:40 magnuse all went well?
06:40 magnuse hehe
06:37 cait and check twitter for the other travellers
06:37 cait before i can sleep :)
06:37 cait just have to make sureinternet works
06:37 cait yep i am here
06:27 magnuse no, it says you are logging in from reno - woohoo!
06:27 magnuse kia ora cait! where in the world are you? sleepless in seatle?
06:22 magnuse master has db updates that are not in any of the released versions, but if the released version is installed from packages or git or tarball does not matter
06:21 kivilahtio magnuse: ah but gitify will solve the issue, thanks how could I forget the wonderful gitify :)
06:20 kivilahtio magnuse: master could have some extra nut pushed to packages?
06:20 wahanui i heard gitify was at https://github.com/mkfifo/koha-gitify
06:20 magnuse gitify?
06:20 magnuse have you looked at gitify?
06:20 magnuse the databases should be the same no matter how you installed, as long as the versions are the same
06:18 kivilahtio but I have a gut feeling this might not be so easy
06:18 kivilahtio magnuse: Any idea if it is ok to migrate from Koha-from-packages to Koha-from-source? I guess I need to upgrade the database and replace the dev-db with the old packages-db
06:17 magnuse hiya kivilahtio
06:17 kivilahtio gooood moornig!
06:10 magnuse where in the world are you? sleepless in seatle?
06:10 magnuse kia ora cait-m!
06:08 * magnuse waves
05:50 mtompset Have a great day, #koha. And again, Happy Canadian Thanksgiving. :)
05:49 mtompset Greetings, laurence. :)
05:07 mtompset It did... but got other zebra errors now?!
05:03 eythian Hopefully it works, I'll catch you later.
05:01 mtompset records exported.
05:00 mtompset Soon... soon we'll see if it works.
04:57 mtompset vserver++ # some of my hatred was misplaced.
04:57 mtompset The file is nearly double in size.
04:57 mtompset AND!
04:57 mtompset I put -f library after -d=/path and it is working.
04:54 eythian really? That surprises me.
04:53 mtompset -f must be last parameter.
04:53 mtompset AH!
04:46 eythian In that case, I'd dig around the code to allow the dir to be changed.
04:46 eythian that would be a problem.
04:46 eythian ah
04:45 pastebot "mtompset" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "Why vserver sucks" (2 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/246
04:45 mtompset This is why I really hate this VM environment.
04:45 eythian why?
04:44 mtompset Nope... can't even umount /tmp
04:43 eythian and make sure the permissions on the root /tmp are still correct.
04:43 eythian to do that, you just umount /tmp
04:43 eythian Sometimes people link it to /var/tmp is that's got more space.
04:42 eythian If you have enough space on /, you would just leave it as a dir there.
04:42 eythian right, so you can't mount it anywhere.
04:42 mtompset I don't have access to /dev even as root.
04:42 mtompset as long as if I reboot it should mount back the way it is... I don't care. :)
04:42 eythian you just have block devices lying around?
04:41 mtompset anywhere else?
04:40 eythian Wherelse would you mount it? Or would you leave it so that it's just a directory under '/'?
04:38 mtompset what command(s) would you use to unmount /tmp and remount it elsewhere?
04:35 eythian well, I'd have a look through the code, it should be using File::Spec and that should respect $TMPDIR, but it might be hardcoding something somewhere.
04:33 mtompset I tried both.
04:33 eythian not TMP
04:33 eythian TMPDIR
04:33 mtompset sudo env TMP=/home/mtompset/tmp koha-rebuild-zebra -v -f library -d /home/mtompset/tmp
04:33 mtompset both TMPDIR and TMP make no difference either.
04:32 eythian in that case, use the TMPDIR variable.
04:31 eythian hmm OK
04:31 mtompset Yes. same problem.
04:30 eythian ?
04:30 eythian did you try -d /path
04:29 mtompset all generated /tmp/newdirs
04:29 mtompset -d:/path
04:29 mtompset -d=/path
04:29 mtompset -d/path
04:29 mtompset I tried.
04:29 eythian tbh, I'm surprised it's not catching the error and notifying you. It really should.
04:26 wahanui eythian: that doesn't look right
04:26 eythian or, change the mounting of /tmp to not be a ramdisk
04:26 eythian then add the -d whenever you do a reindex
04:25 mtompset I can't get the temp directory to be something other than /tmp
04:25 mtompset BUT...
04:25 mtompset eythian: I think the /tmp full theory is good.
04:17 mtompset 12:16:56-14/10 zebraidx(30774) [warn] d1: 1: Malformed tag
04:16 mtompset okay.
04:15 eythian Anything else is passed directly to rebuild_zebra.
04:15 eythian -...
04:15 eythian from the man page:
04:14 mtompset -d isn't listed in the script.
04:14 eythian mtompset: yeah, though the -d ought to work also.
04:13 mtompset Does that sound about right, eythian?
04:13 mtompset Okay... triggering reindex on QA system to see error, and then will try sudo env TMPDIR=/some/other/dir koha-rebuild-zebra -v -f instance
04:11 cjh that is amazing, I only noticed that building site a week or two ago...
04:10 eythian http://static2.stuff.co.nz/1381723037/754/9281754_600x400.jpg <-- it sure is windy today
04:10 cjh interesting, I had only ever used that with gzip, ty.
04:08 eythian some things do TMP, but File::Temp doesn't claim to use it.
04:08 eythian cjh: you're right, TMPDIR is more right
04:07 cjh eythian: I thought it was TMPDIR for gzip, does TMP work as well? or is that koha specific?
04:07 eythian * ebegin is now known as EEND
04:06 * ebegin is going to sleep. 00:06 in Montreal. Good luck mtompset chasing your problem !
04:05 eythian oh, or that
04:05 ebegin sorry, -d, not -directory
04:05 eythian try: sudo env TMP=/some/other/dir koha-rebuild-zebra instance
04:05 ebegin mtompset, you can quickly test this assumption setting the -directory=<path with enough space> when calling rebuild_zebra
04:05 cjh 16MB for /tmp is the same setup for our vservers, it had caused lots of issues.
04:05 eythian it wouldn't even need that, 16MB isn't a whole log of data.
04:04 mtompset you would fail, even though you should have enough memory/diskspace.
04:04 mtompset when you have multiple people filling up their quotas.
04:04 eythian that's not a terribly uncommon sort of configuration
04:04 mtompset vserver....
04:04 mtompset oh @#@#. A worse yet...
04:03 eythian I bet it's filling up
04:03 eythian your /tmp dir is a 16MB ramdisk
04:03 eythian none on /tmp type tmpfs (size=16m,mode=1777)
04:03 pastebot "mtompset" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "mount output" (4 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/245
04:02 mtompset How can I tell, eythian?
04:00 eythian mtompset: is /tmp a ramdisk?
04:00 ebegin during the zebra indexation or while generating the data that will be send to zebra ?
04:00 mtompset BUT... no error on a zebraqueue reindex.
04:00 mtompset full reindexing.
03:59 ebegin hmmm... when do you get your malformed tag error ?
03:59 mtompset Somehow bulk processing all the records breaks at that point.
03:59 mtompset The records are fine.
03:58 mtompset ebegin: I hunted it down, and discovered there was no problematic record.
03:58 ebegin mtompset, have you tried the rebuild_zebra_sliced.sh script ? it may help to identify the problematic record
03:58 mtompset wizzyrea: My local 2GB RAM VM is running on a i7-3770 with 32GB RAM. And it does take about 15-20. :)
03:57 wizzyrea ;)
03:57 wizzyrea on the machines I use, it would.
03:56 mtompset wizzyrea: Did you not say you would expect that to take about 20 minutes to reindex? ;)
03:55 eythian most likely, yeah
03:55 mtompset laptops have sucky bus speeds.
03:55 mtompset eythian: Probably your bus speed.
03:55 eythian Just because desktops have more "grunt"
03:55 ebegin on v3.12 ?
03:54 eythian A package build is faster on my (old) desktop machine than my laptop, despite my laptop being newer, i7 vs. i5, SSD-hybrid HD, etc etc.
03:54 mtompset 45-46K.
03:54 wizzyrea it's cool if you just want to complain ;)
03:54 ebegin mtompset, how many records ?
03:54 mtompset I guess.
03:54 eythian There's many factors involved.
03:54 eythian different IO, different RAM amounts/speed, etc etc.
03:53 mtompset vs. 3hours for our other one.
03:53 mtompset and indexes in 30 minutes.
03:53 mtompset Our Digital Ocean VM works just fine.
03:52 * wizzyrea has personally observed no good very bad things when the fast indexer runs during a full reindex
03:52 mtompset But here's my complaint.
03:52 eythian Have you also tried adding a brazillion '-v's to the command line?
03:52 mtompset I didn't try that.
03:52 eythian but hey, worth a shot maybe.
03:52 eythian this shouldn't make a difference though, as they work in different temp dirs
03:51 mtompset eythian: I wouldn't doubt something awful like that.
03:51 eythian have you tried disabling the cron job for the duration of the reindex?
03:51 eythian And so things are getting stomped on.
03:51 eythian Perhaps your filesystem has locking issues.
03:51 eythian if you are doing it with -f, the zebraqueue isn't consulted.
03:50 mtompset I did discover I needed the zebraqueue to be cleared recently, but even that isn't helping now.
03:49 mtompset But lately, that hasn't helped.
03:49 mtompset Even after the full reindex failure.
03:49 mtompset Normally that works.
03:48 mtompset I run that script and have it put the records in the zebraqueue for anything not indexed.
03:48 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6566 enhancement, P3, ---, christophe.croullebois, CLOSED FIXED, Checking if DB records are properly indexed
03:48 mtompset ebegin: Actually, there is a nice script from bug 6566 (if I recall), that is included.
03:48 * ebegin just trowing some idea
03:48 eythian actually, you should try with the -u flag, as -x is on by default.
03:48 eythian mtompset: actually, it sounds more like a z39.50 thing
03:47 ebegin have you tried reindexing with the -x flag ?
03:47 ebegin mtompset, do you have some record with large descriptions like table of content, summary, etc ?
03:47 eythian I don't know.
03:47 mtompset eythian: So, the question is... would that make a difference in the indexing at all?
03:47 mtompset All the recordtype sort of fields are grs...
03:46 mtompset The file was /etc/koha/sites/library/zebra-biblios.cfg
03:46 ebegin mtompset, the zebra-biblios search should lead you to a file zebra-biblio-dom.cfg of zebra-biblio.cfg located in /etc/zebradb/ directory
03:46 mtompset ebegin: Both are grs.
03:44 eythian (I could be wrong in my understanding though.)
03:44 eythian I'd be like saying "what do you prefer, HTTP or HTML?"
03:44 eythian I hate that usmarc/marc21 difference. As I understand it, one is a schema, and one is a format.
03:43 ebegin mtompset, you can take a look at your koha-conf.xml file. search for zebra-biblios
03:42 mtompset which is the newer one?
03:42 mtompset <retrieval syntax="marc21" name="F"/>
03:42 mtompset <retrieval syntax="usmarc" name="F"/>
03:41 mtompset Oh, that does remind me of a question I was going to ask here.
03:40 mtompset how do I tell grs-1 vs dom indexing is enabled?
03:40 mtompset But... let's check.
03:39 mtompset whatever the defaults are.
03:39 ebegin grs-1 vs dom ?
03:38 mtompset vserver-- # Oh how I hate you so much, because of things like rsyslog busting.
03:38 mtompset eythian: Yes, yes it is...
03:38 mtompset ebegin: base package installations with no index tweaks.
03:37 eythian but if you can't install things like rsyslog, your system is a bit buggered anyway.
03:37 wizzyrea you made it!
03:37 wizzyrea cait!
03:37 wahanui hello cait are you here?
03:37 eythian hello cait
03:37 eythian mtompset: dmesg is a kernel ring buffer that's not dependent on rsyslog.
03:36 ebegin it should unless you have some difference in your config that you are not aware of :)
03:36 mtompset eythian: It won't note it in those logs if your rsyslog is busted, because you don't have access to /dev as root, and trying to update rsyslog busted half way during an install. :)
03:34 mtompset (as far as I know).
03:34 mtompset a full reindex of identical data would generate the same XML.
03:33 ebegin did you tried to use the problematic generated xml and index it on your server ?
03:33 mtompset I did, and it is valid.
03:33 wahanui eythian: I forgot disk space
03:33 eythian wahanui: forget disk space
03:33 ebegin have you look at the generated xml ?
03:33 mtompset no disk space is NOT the issue.
03:32 mtompset vserver-- # I can't curse you enough, you ancient virtualization technology.
03:32 wahanui disk space is NOT the issue.
03:32 ebegin disk space ?
03:32 ebegin disk space ^
03:32 mtompset I can use less memory on my local VM and it still works.
03:31 ebegin both server using the same settings ?
03:31 eythian it'll note that in the syslog/dmesg if it does that.
03:31 mtompset I suspect the linux kernel is auto-magically killing a process somehow, and that cascades into interesting problems.
03:30 mtompset I have data that gives me a "malformed tag" error on a full reindex (under vserver), but works just fine on a local VirtualBox VM with half the memory and no swap.
03:29 eythian wind at 90kph and apparently climbing. I'm almost getting seasick here on the 7th floor.
03:28 ebegin mtompset, what kind of indexing problems are you facing ?
03:28 eythian yeah, my second finger slipped by a row
03:28 mtompset That explains the typo. ;)
03:28 eythian mostly, yeah
03:28 mtompset Are you a touch typist, eythian?
03:28 eythian it really needs the wind speed on that
03:27 huginn eythian: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 15.0°C (4:00 PM NZDT on October 14, 2013). Conditions: Light Rain Showers. Humidity: 82%. Dew Point: 12.0°C. Pressure: 29.44 in 997 hPa (Falling).
03:27 eythian @wunder nzwn
03:27 huginn eythian: I'll give you the answer just as soon as RDA is ready
03:27 eythian @wuncer nzwn
03:26 mtompset Kind of hard to work with colleagues unless you keep strange hours a little. :)
03:26 mtompset It's Monday morning there.
03:26 mtompset I'm looking at my colleague's indexing problems (he's in the Philippines), and cursing vserver.
03:26 ebegin but wait... what are YOU doing around ? :)
03:26 ebegin I'm about to go to sleep.
03:25 ebegin to see if there are no problem.
03:25 ebegin Just looking at one of my client's authorities getting reindexed :)
03:24 mtompset Neat.
03:24 ebegin I'm inLibro's owner actually :-0
03:24 mtompset So, what's your excuse for being awake at this ridiculous hour? Can't be Koha problems, can it?
03:23 ebegin Yes
03:23 mtompset I think I noticed your name or email on a bug report somewhere.
03:22 mtompset Hmmm... Do you work with blou?
03:22 ebegin really ? I didn't know that.
03:22 mtompset I'm near Toronto.
03:22 ebegin are you ?
03:21 mtompset Sweet! :)
03:21 ebegin Yes I am. Montreal
03:21 mtompset ebegin: Are you a fellow Canadian? :)
03:20 * mtompset smiles.
03:20 ebegin mtompset, thanks for the Canadian Thanks Giving wishes :-)
03:07 jcamins Which is good, since I have three 5# yogurt containers full of them.
03:05 jcamins Nah, it's still pretty delicious.
02:58 wizzyrea icky
02:54 jcamins I did not.
02:53 jcamins But the bran is so noticeable that Shari thought I had added coconut.
02:53 jcamins Very.
02:49 wizzyrea weeird
02:48 jcamins Very much unlike the exact same type of flour that I baked with last week.
02:48 jcamins Or maybe too moist, despite it being dessicatingly dry in here.
02:48 jcamins Too large, or something.
02:47 jcamins The pieces of bran were way to large, and the flour seemed heavy.
02:36 wizzyrea hm define "wrong"
02:35 jcamins Next time I open up a bag of flour and think "this seems to have been milled wrong," I shall listen to my instincts.
02:19 huginn wizzyrea: The current temperature in Channel 6 Downtown, Lawrence, Kansas is 14.3°C (9:19 PM CDT on October 13, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 59%. Dew Point: 6.0°C. Pressure: 30.31 in 1026 hPa (Steady).
02:19 wizzyrea @wunder 66044
02:15 jcamins It's fancy organic flour from the co-op.
02:14 jcamins I am very displeased.
02:14 jcamins This is substandard flour.
02:13 jcamins Okay, it wasn't the temperature.
01:10 huginn rambutan: The current temperature in Wyatt Park, St Joseph, Missouri is 15.4°C (8:10 PM CDT on October 13, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 47%. Dew Point: 4.0°C. Pressure: 30.32 in 1026 hPa (Steady).
01:10 rambutan @wunder 64507
01:09 huginn rambutan: The current temperature in MidTown, Reno, Nevada is 10.7°C (6:00 PM PDT on October 13, 2013). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 46%. Dew Point: -0.0°C. Pressure: 30.11 in 1020 hPa (Rising).
01:09 rambutan @wunder reno, nv
00:55 mtompset Greetings, #koha.
00:50 eythian later
00:50 cjh have fun
00:50 rangi spotyas later
00:50 rangi right time for a nap and a shower before dinner
00:49 rangi yeah, timed it just right
00:48 eythian lucky too, most flights in/out of wellington are cancelled.
00:47 rangi right, made it to reno
00:17 jcamins And it's tasty.
00:17 jcamins ibeardslee: true.
00:16 ibeardslee caramelised is still better than carbonised?
00:15 jcamins And caramelized.
00:15 jcamins So the first 44 cookies are a bit over-flat.
00:14 jcamins Yeah, I failed to take into account how much longer it would take to mix a double batch, and the commensurately increased temperature of the dough.