Time Nick Message 21:52 cait good night #koha :) 21:35 cait I think you are not in danger to :) 21:34 gmcharlt eek -- I'm not sure I could bear if I personally failed QA! ;) 21:34 cait well your patch does :) 21:34 cait gmcharlt: you pass QA :) 21:31 cait yes, but we would still have figured it out eventually 21:31 cait :) 21:30 * gmcharlt is just glad that your test patron and test hold didn't happen to have the same ID number ;) 21:29 gmcharlt and thank you! 21:29 gmcharlt great! 21:29 cait thx! 21:29 cait will leave a note to that in my testing notes 21:29 gmcharlt indeed 21:29 cait tricky! 21:29 cait :) 21:29 cait and it is not 21:29 cait let me see 21:29 gmcharlt is it the _right_ hold request? :) 21:29 wahanui well, interesting is sometimes good and sometimes bad 21:29 cait interesting 21:29 gmcharlt cait: it could /appear/ to work if the borrowernumber of the patron in question is the same as the reserve_id of a row in the reserves table 21:28 cait no difference, my template is ugly, but there is a reserve slip 21:27 * cait tries title level 21:27 cait should it make a difference? 21:27 cait hm it was an item level hold 21:26 cait yes 21:26 gmcharlt the slip prints fine for you? 21:26 cait it seems i can't reproduce the problem on master 21:26 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10949 normal, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Signed Off , hold request not retrieved when printing hold slip 21:26 cait bug 10949 21:26 cait hm wrong 21:26 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10956 major, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, NEW , Series of OPAC searches can cause a browser crash 21:26 cait I have a question about bug 10956 21:26 gmcharlt cait: yes 21:25 cait gmcharlt: around? 20:57 cait fixing the annoyingly broken translated list email :) 20:57 cait fredericd++ 20:52 huginn cait: The operation succeeded. 20:52 cait @later tell eythian could you maybe take a look at bug 10733? 20:15 cait blou++ 20:13 cait have a nice one 20:13 cait bye oleonard :) 20:13 oleonard Bye #koha 20:13 * oleonard switches to weekend 20:12 * cait switches to qa 20:08 * cait wants chocolate 20:07 cait mmh M&Ms 20:06 jcamins You may have a point on the M&Ms saved for trick-or-treaters. 20:06 jcamins The M&M cookies are for next week. 20:05 oleonard At the end of September? Both will be gone by the time the trick-or-treaters arrive 20:05 jcamins I need to get little bags of M&Ms to A) make M&M cookies and B) give to trick-or-treaters. 20:04 oleonard Lucky for us the overarching rule of RDA seems to be, "You know, do, like, whatever you want." 20:00 jcamins Yeah. "We're all about inclusiveness and open access... NOW PAY US LOTS OF MONEY!" 20:00 oleonard It's particularly galling that the RDA Toolkit costs hundreds of dollars a year to access 19:59 jcamins But no. Unsweetened kool-aid. 19:59 jcamins You'd think that the RDA kool-aid would at least be sweetened. 19:58 jcamins lol 19:58 oleonard "Just lie back and think of FRBR" 19:57 oleonard Seems like it would be easier if I could just drink the RDA kool-aid and get it over with. 19:57 jcamins Well, not arguments that get anywhere near convincing me. 19:56 jcamins oleonard: no. 19:56 oleonard Is there anyone out there who is making even halfway-decent arguments that RDA is a good thing? 19:54 jcamins Yeah, https://github.com/biblionarrator/biblionarrator/blob/master/src/lib/environment/renderer.js#L23 19:53 pianohacker [off] jcamins: I'm guessing #field runs its contents for every matching field? interesting 19:51 jcamins [off] Super-simple MARC21 template: https://github.com/biblionarrator/biblionarrator/blob/master/src/node_modules/bn-schema-isbd/templates/marc21.handlebars and record rendered with it: http://umich.biblionarrator.com/record/5475192 19:48 jcamins For self-describing formats, it's just a matter of walking the record and printing everything out as HTML. 19:48 pianohacker right 19:48 jcamins Well, for non-self-describing formats, anyway. 19:48 jcamins Handlebars, primarily. 19:48 jcamins Record display. 19:48 pianohacker ah, okay. What did you end up using (and for what part of biblionarrator, actually?) 19:47 jcamins Oh, definitely much nicer than XSLT, which I ruled out as well. 19:47 pianohacker It's equivalent functionally, in truth. Just, again, much nicer syntax imo 19:46 jcamins I had looked at using XQuery for Biblionarrator, but ultimately concluded that I couldn't see much of a benefit to it. 19:46 pianohacker 10486 used some of the same code, due to foolish optimism on my part 19:45 cait ah 19:45 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10320 enhancement, P4, ---, jweaver, Pushed to Master , Show results from library's OverDrive collection in OPAC search 19:45 cait bug 10320 19:45 cait but 10320 19:45 cait there is a deadline quite soon.. 19:45 pianohacker cait: gotcha. I've been delaying integrating the five quadrillion changes made to 10320 into 10486, but it will happen soonish :) 19:44 jcamins Not that I remember where I saw it. 19:44 cait the first one more than the latter 19:44 pianohacker Fair enough. I might start looking at advocating a Koha switch to it (with my volunteered time to move the existing stylesheets) 19:43 jcamins pianohacker: I've only seen xquery used in one project. 19:43 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8133 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jweaver, Failed QA , hourly loans doesn't know when library closed 19:43 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10486 new feature, P5 - low, ---, jweaver, Patch doesn't apply , Allow external Z39.50 targets to be searched from the OPAC 19:43 pianohacker cait: on bug 10486 or bug 8133? 19:43 pianohacker Have I been under a rock, though? I never knew that xquery existed, it's like xslt but with a good syntax 19:43 cait as you have made the mistake to show up :) 19:42 cait pianohacker: still waiting for a rebase from you ! 19:42 pianohacker koha++ 19:42 pianohacker xslt-- 19:42 cait koha++ 19:42 pianohacker xquery++ 19:42 * jcamins shudders again. 19:42 oleonard :P 19:42 oleonard php++ 19:42 pianohacker php-- 19:42 oleonard This would make you shudder jcamins, it's my home-grown staff intranet written in years of spaghetti PHP code 19:40 * jcamins shudders. 19:40 cait :) 19:40 oleonard Not that bad ;) 19:40 cait how bad is it? drupal? 19:40 * cait sends cookies 19:40 cait oh god 19:39 oleonard Possibly hours!! 19:39 cait for how much longer? 19:39 cait eek 19:38 * oleonard is cruelly forced to work on non-Koha activities 19:37 cait ah glad to see that ldap patch finally going in 19:36 cait hm that does sound painful 19:36 Dyrcona seams everyone is splitting.... 19:33 cait hm seems everyone is leaving 19:21 tcohen ok, have a nice weekend #koha 19:19 tcohen on chrome it never recovers / acknowledges upload finished 19:17 tcohen we will eventually reach that number huginn 19:17 huginn 04Bug 614304: was not found. 19:17 tcohen jcamins: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=614304 19:04 tcohen http://kiriakakis.net/comics/mused/a-day-at-the-park 19:04 mtompset Interesting, Fartkontroll means Speed Trap in Swedish. 19:01 mtompset Silly [% themelang %] vs. [% interface %] problem in the template files. 18:59 tcohen interesting jcamins 18:57 jcamins tcohen: FF has an interesting feature... hitting the escape key cancels all outstanding network connections. 18:56 tcohen jcamins: sorry, made a silly mistake: it was on frameworks import not patron images 18:55 mtompset AH! Found the error. 18:52 jcamins tcohen: are you using FF? 18:51 tcohen not sure, but bizarre 18:51 mtompset tcohen: Does that do a similarly bizarre thing too? 18:50 cait agreed 18:50 jcamins Sounds like it failed QA. 18:50 tcohen upload a patron image, press Esc in the middle of the process, upload a patron image 18:50 cait jcamins: ah. :) 18:49 mtompset but the code is the same as the code that filled in the URL in the first place. 18:49 mtompset But if you tell it to delete it... the 856$u URL isn't cleared. 18:49 mtompset no problem there... 18:49 mtompset Now... you click the plugin icon again... and it asks about deleting the one you just uploaded. 18:49 mtompset great for when you do it right. 18:48 mtompset there it pops up the window and you select a file to upload... it uploads... and changes the 856$u to a URL. 18:48 jcamins cait: reasons why JS fails. 18:48 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6874 enhancement, P3, ---, julian.maurice, Needs Signoff , File upload in MARC 18:48 mtompset okay... this upload plug in I'm testing for bug 6874... 18:48 cait jcamins: ? 18:48 jcamins Syntax error, incorrect logic, missing dependencies, lack of execution... any number of things. 18:47 cait from what looks like general configuration stuff 18:47 tcohen its just a bunch of stub classes 18:47 cait mtompset: well i only see initial commits 18:47 mtompset What would cause javascript to fail? 18:46 mtompset But you have to hunt for it. 18:46 mtompset There is code. 18:46 mtompset http://jkoha.cvs.sourceforge.net/viewvc/jkoha/ 18:45 cait ah but not really code there 18:44 cait the last update worries me some :) 18:42 mtompset Oh my evilness! 18:40 tcohen http://sourceforge.net/projects/jkoha/ 18:39 cait :) 18:39 jcamins cait: we were going to, until someone decided to use .bat files instead. 18:39 jeff cait: the magic of timezones! 18:38 cait did someone rewrite Koha in Java while i slept? :) 18:36 mtompset Hey, there are some still useful tips, I'm sure for those who want to go old school on the command line. 18:23 tcohen LOL 18:11 jcamins oleonard: great book! 18:10 cait lol 18:10 oleonard I can't believe our copy of The best book of MS-DOS 5 is still checked out 18:06 jcamins Oh, no, it was _saving_ patrons that it was fixed for. 18:05 jcamins Let me see if I can find it. 18:04 jcamins There was a patch for that. 18:04 gmcharlt not sure yet if it matches his situation precisely -- need to wait for the VM to calm down -- but if you enter a patron search and never release the enter key, madness ensues 18:03 jcamins What causes it? 18:03 jcamins Well done! 18:02 * gmcharlt just gave his test VM a case of indigestion by reproducing the load issue eythian wrote about yesterday 18:02 gmcharlt oops 17:58 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10901 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , Filters is needed on the add item page 17:58 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: Bug 10901: (follow-up) add space between 'Edit in host' and 'Delink' 17:58 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10836 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , New layout for placing holds in the OPAC 17:58 jenkins_koha * Jonathan Druart: Bug 10901: (follow-up) make the withdrawn column sortable 17:58 jenkins_koha * Jonathan Druart: Bug 10901: Add datatables to the add item page 17:58 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: Bug 10836: (follow-up) improve display toggles on the OPAC hold request form 17:58 jenkins_koha * Owen Leonard: Bug 10836 - New layout for placing holds in the OPAC 17:58 jenkins_koha Project master_maria build #124: SUCCESS in 43 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/master_maria/124/ 17:58 cait not quite right huginn 17:57 huginn cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 17.3°C (7:55 PM CEST on September 27, 2013). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 89%. Dew Point: 15.0°C. Pressure: 29.95 in 1014 hPa (Steady). 17:57 cait @wunder Konstanz 17:57 cait hm hail storm? 17:29 gmcharlt IOW, it doesn't go by whatever is embedded in the MARC record 17:29 khall Ah, I see. Thanks! 17:28 gmcharlt khall: no, because ModBiblio() does the Right Thing and looks up the biblioitemnumber directly 17:27 khall gmcharlt: you are correct in your points made, but won't touch_all_biblios.pl suffer from this same bug, since the bug is in GetMarcBiblio which touch_all_biblios also uses? 17:24 gmcharlt khall: I've added comments to 10961; upshot, I think another part of the solution is removing batchRebuildBiblioTables.pl 17:22 gmcharlt well, the text is the same 17:22 sophie_m thanks gmcharlt and oleonard 17:21 sophie_m gmcharlt: thanks but I wanted to give the link to a librarian 17:14 jenkins_koha Starting build #124 for job master_maria (previous build: SUCCESS) 17:14 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9299 major, P3, ---, nunyo, Pushed to Master , for loop in Auth_with_ldap.pm requires an extended patron attribute to be set or LDAP logins fail 17:14 jenkins_koha Srdjan: Bug 9299: fix LDAP login breakage when ExtendedPatronAttributes is on 17:14 jenkins_koha Project master_maria build #123: SUCCESS in 44 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/master_maria/123/ 17:10 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 10901: (follow-up) add space between 'Edit in host' and 'Delink' <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=7e3f8e0838584a89f3fbdce8e956880de8556d7a> / Bug 10901: (follow-up) make the withdrawn column sortable <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=eec049492fe52d546f3fdef96e3257aee3292464> / Bug 10901: Add datatables to the add item page <http://git.koha-community.org/gitw 16:57 huginn 04Bug 10961: critical, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Needs Signoff , Error in GetMarcBiblio can cause severe data loss 16:57 khall Just an FYI, if your Koha database has biblios where the biblionumber doesn't equal the biblioitemnumber, DO NOT run misc/batchRebuildBiblioTables.pl, or you'll end up with deleted biblioitem rows! http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10961 16:50 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 10836: (follow-up) improve display toggles on the OPAC hold request form <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=e9c77aaf3acbcf1a2d2d4e492673fe2739685b5d> / Bug 10836 - New layout for placing holds in the OPAC <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=74553d7fef8ebd6059915478bf978596f620a975> 16:45 oleonard So the good news is I figured out why collection codes were showing up in my item type search facets. The bad news is we have 84,000 MARC records with the bad data that causes the problem 16:37 gmcharlt oleonard: fine with me 16:37 oleonard gmcharlt: If you don't mind I'm going to throw a couple of really minor display-related markup changes in with my signoff 16:30 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 9299: fix LDAP login breakage when ExtendedPatronAttributes is on <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=4d75243e27cab93cd84ee6bbfd71362326569c21> 16:30 jenkins_koha Starting build #123 for job master_maria (previous build: SUCCESS) 16:03 gmcharlt sophie_m: it looks like they weren't posted to the website. However, you can find a copy here - http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=blob;f=misc/release_notes/release_notes_3_10_8.txt;h=bae0d81ca8e27cc325ad782f1ea0d8569a0be522;hb=refs/heads/3.10.x 16:03 oleonard It's strange sophie_m, I can find the announcements for 3.10.7 and 3.10.9 but not 3.10.8 16:00 oleonard Thanks gmcharlt, I'll test it today 16:00 gmcharlt oleonard: I've attached my follow-up 15:55 sophie_m Someone ot help me ? 15:54 sophie_m I can't find v3.10.08 release notes on koha-community.org 15:48 gmcharlt oleonard++ 15:48 * oleonard just walked an MLS student through the process of installing Koha 15:48 gmcharlt oleonard: I've since started working on a follow-up patch -- I'll want extra eyes on it, so will be attaching it soon 15:48 oleonard Yes, gmcharlt. Sorry, I was afk. 15:42 blou got to be good at something 15:38 jcamins Hehe. Looks like you're succeeding. 15:37 blou I'm running 3 in parallels, to confuse reviewers, but mostly just to confuse myself 15:36 jcamins There was a different bug that just added a syspref. 15:36 blou I'll add more comments on that in the commit/patch. 15:36 jcamins blou: ah, then yes, kohastructure change. 15:34 blou I did not code the change, I'm the commiter :) But it uses a new table to store the unique id sent to the user in email, for future validation 15:31 jcamins Also, that patch should not require a change to kohastructure.sql. Just sysprefs.sql. 15:31 mtompset okay, guess I never noticed it before then. :P 15:31 blou well, file is bigger :) 15:30 jcamins Not at present. And the Pg version is much older. 15:30 mtompset Good question though. :) 15:30 mtompset blou: Considering the Pg version is newer, I don't know. 15:30 blou Yeah! 15:29 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8753 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, philippe.blouin, Failed QA , Add forgot password link to OPAC 15:29 blou kf, mtompset, oleaonard: When modifying kohastructure.sql, do I need to do the Pg version as well? (Bug 8753?) 15:14 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10836 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Passed QA , New layout for placing holds in the OPAC 15:14 gmcharlt oleonard: could you look at my last comment on bug 10836? 15:07 rambutan But just a few minutes ago I was checking to see the state of Prolog on Linux, so that's on my mind for next quarter. 15:06 reiveune byec 15:06 rambutan There, now we're good for two or three months. 15:06 rambutan I think Koha should be rewritten in Ada. 15:04 jcamins Maybe three. 15:03 jcamins kivilahtio__: people suggest rewriting Koha in a different language about once every two months. 14:48 kivilahtio__ mtompset: prolly, I am not a Koha specialist 14:48 mtompset Haven't looked, so I can't properly comment. :) 14:47 mtompset if there was different processing based on different information content, then perhaps going the object route would make sense. 14:46 mtompset Perhaps it is a matter of having some base data, and any thing extra is irrelevant. In which case doing the object thing is pointless. 14:45 kivilahtio__ mtompset: not complaining, I feel things are pretty straightforward here, but I think there would be benefit in defining object for databse types. 14:44 kivilahtio__ mtompset: could this maybe be resolved usig a PAtron-object? 14:43 kivilahtio__ mtompset: =item C<$borrower> is a hash with borrower informations (from GetMember or GetMemberDetails). 14:43 mtompset Are you referring to the type checking for the date, kivilahtio__? 14:37 kivilahtio__ kf: so true :) Just noticed some polymorphism in C4::Circulation::AddIssue and was wondering how easily these could be maintained using object inheritance. 14:29 kf i think most people would have known waht you meant, but since blou is new, i wanted to save him headache :) 14:28 mtompset Thanks for the correction, kf. :) 14:28 kf kivilahtio__: i think you can write bad code in any language 14:20 kivilahtio__ Not looking for a friday night firefight regarding the issue tho ;) 14:19 kivilahtio__ I'm sure you have but just asking if someone has a opinion 14:18 kivilahtio__ have you thought about rewriting Koha with a real object oriented language? Like Java? Which actually forces many good design practices? 14:16 magnuse w00t! 14:16 tcohen pizza for magnuse! 14:14 kivilahtio__ happy weekend magnuse! 14:14 * magnuse calls it a week - happy pizza day #koha! 14:00 magnuse kivilahtio__: yay! 13:59 kivilahtio__ just wanted to tell someone ! :) 13:59 kivilahtio__ not production ready but still. gg 13:58 kivilahtio__ phew got the Bibs and Items in DB 13:54 kf i thik i will postpone it to monday 13:54 magnuse kf: alas, no time for testing, but if you want to test on http://head.bibkat.no:8080/ you can log in as demo/demo 13:48 kf now the library added more and they look perfect and it stopped showing 13:48 kf when there was only 1 quote it worked 13:46 kf we recently updated this instllation to the latest 3.12.x 13:46 kf could someone do me a tiny favour and check if it shows on master? 13:46 kf oh 13:46 kf but thx ;) 13:46 kf hmpf 13:46 magnuse kf: no clue then, i'm afraid 13:46 kf magnuse: and i turned it on and off again to make sure 13:44 * jcamins heads into the city. 13:44 jeff didn't actually mean to go into that here, but now that i think about it #koha seems almost an appropriate place. 13:43 kf magnuse: yup 13:43 jeff that just seems... wow. 13:43 jeff HP apparently region-locks their inkjet printer cartridges. 13:42 magnuse kf: simple questions first: did you enable the feature? 13:39 kf [off] https://hshl.bsz-bw.de/ 13:39 kf i have no idea why it doesn't show! 13:39 kf grr. 13:38 kf jcamins: true 13:37 kf the qotd feature seems a bit fragile 13:37 tcohen +1 13:37 jcamins Though companies should maybe renamed "organizations." 13:37 tcohen not that i care too much about this, just clarifying 13:37 jcamins tcohen: UNC should be listed in both companies and libraries. 13:36 tcohen oh, and "individuals" 13:36 tcohen we have "companies" and "libraries" (users) 13:35 kf end user and developer 13:35 kf i think you are really both 13:35 tcohen jcamins: how should i list UNC in the release notes ? 13:34 tcohen ebegin: exactly 13:34 kf to differentiate 13:34 kf that's good 13:34 kf ah end users 13:34 ebegin tcohen, the .gitmessage.txt is a template and is can be edited at commit time, right ? 13:34 jcamins And as the end users, I have no problem with Lyons and Rennes listed in sponsored-by. 13:33 jcamins kf: yeah, I added Sponsored-by for that reason. 13:33 mtompset Greetings, kf. :) 13:33 kf tcohen: hm i think they have been sending patches and are also biblibre customers, so might have sponsored something 13:33 mtompset Greetings, magnuse. :) 13:32 magnuse hiya mtompset 13:32 magnuse but Lyon and Rennes do their own development? or not? 13:32 mtompset Greetings, #koha. 13:32 ebegin jcamins, I see. In case where the dev is not sponsored, we wont put Sponsored-by 13:32 tcohen Lyon and Rennes always appear as companies for example 13:32 kf jcamins: same feeling here somehow... but I don't think we have written it down somewhere. I think the initial idea of the sponsored-by was to have way to mention the libraries spnsoring? 13:31 jcamins It misses the point of that enhancement to the release notes, which was to highlight *users* that were sponsoring development. 13:31 jcamins Though my feeling is that it doesn't make sense for vendors to use Sponsored-by, even if they did sponsor the development. 13:31 tcohen kf: the script that generates the release notes, sorry 13:31 kf easy to confuse and can't type apparently 13:31 kf sorry, it's friday, i am consued 13:31 kf get-bugs? 13:30 jcamins ebegin: in that case, for some you could have both sponsored-by and non-sponsored by. 13:30 tcohen kf: i think i'll check the get-bugs script 13:30 kf ebegin: I think mailmap would be the first thing to change - so you go in the stats with a good name -.the sponsored by just adds to a list in the rlease notes :) 13:30 jcamins The Sponsored-by and mailmap show in different places. 13:30 ebegin jcamins, we sponsored a lot of them actually :-) 13:29 kf i think the spnsored by shows up as sponsoring institutions and libraries or something like that 13:29 kf maybe addtionally add to the mailmap? 13:29 tcohen on the release notes 13:29 tcohen yeah, but it seems that because of the sponsored-by line UNC always appears in a weird place 13:29 jcamins inLibro is probably not sponsoring many of its developments. 13:28 kf tcohen: so employer and library are the same :) 13:28 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7167 new feature, P1 - high, ---, jonathan.druart, Passed QA , updatedatabase improvements 13:28 magnuse hm, the database updates page says "Now that bug 7167 has been pushed..." wasn't that pulled out again? 13:28 jcamins Sponsored-by and the gitdm file are two different things. 13:28 kf tcohen: hm no I don'tthink so., because you are working for a library and doing features for it... 13:27 tcohen kf: as UNC's employee should i stop pasting patches with "Sponsored-by" line then? 13:27 blou i need to learn to abuse those little bots 13:27 magnuse my pleasure! 13:26 blou magnuse: thanks!! 13:26 blou kf: ha! Excellent! Thanks a lot! 13:26 wahanui OK, tcohen. 13:26 tcohen wahanui: database updates is http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Database_updates 13:26 magnuse blou: http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Database_updates 13:25 ebegin tcohen, cool trick ! 13:25 kf the RM will add the number when it goes in 13:25 tcohen database updates? 13:25 kf and set the version there to 3.13.00.XXX 13:25 kf blou: you create a new entry 13:25 kf tcohen: i think inLibro is the company, so maybe better doing it with the mailmap 13:24 blou How do we modify this for a patch? It doesn't seem right hardcode a db version in it (ex: 3.13.00.023) 13:24 tcohen with a single line: Sponsored-by: inLibro 13:24 tcohen ebegin: put a file ~/.gitmessage.txt 13:23 blou Question about installer/data/mysql/updatedatabase.pl 13:23 kf hi blou 13:23 blou Holà #koha 13:22 tcohen .mailmap 13:22 kf sorry :) 13:22 kf down 13:22 kf oh right...s crolling sown 13:22 jcamins kf: yeah, magnuse provided a link earlier. 13:22 jcamins ebegin: no. 13:22 kf jcamins: i think there is a mailmap file somewhere in koha... but not sure 13:20 ebegin jcamins, does git have a kind of 'Organization' setting ? 13:17 jcamins ebegin: you only need to add to the mailmap if you don't set your git environments up consistently. 13:17 ebegin magnuse was close though, and I think we will add entries in there too 13:16 ebegin jcamins++ 13:16 ebegin jcamins,++ 13:15 ebegin Thanks ! We will add inLibro since we are planning to do much more check ins 13:14 ebegin jcamins, that's it ! 13:14 jcamins But I think rangi has his own. 13:14 jcamins I used this as RM: http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=release-tools.git;a=blob;f=gitdm/domain-map;h=79318c7b1bd64033f743f4fa9b2ad54286f7e831;hb=HEAD 13:14 magnuse i think maybe rangi has one that he uses when he runs the statistics? 13:13 jcamins I don't recall seeing anything like that in Koha. 13:12 magnuse ebegin: this? http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=blob;f=.mailmap;hb=HEAD 13:09 ebegin Hi there ! I remember having seen a list of domain name vs company name in order to get the company credited for a commit. Anybody can point me where this is ? 13:08 tcohen morning #koha 12:54 magnuse kf! 12:54 kf druthb! 12:54 wahanui Well, she finally snapped, like we all knew she would. 12:54 magnuse druthb! 12:54 druthb kf! 12:31 kf hi oleonard :) 12:24 magnuse kia ora oleonard 12:21 oleonard Hi #koha 10:26 kivilahtio__ magnuse: thanks magnuse for caring! 10:04 magnuse kivilahtio__: hope you make the right decision, then :-) 09:19 kivilahtio__ kf: However it goes, I am sure it will turn out ok for me, atleast ;) 09:18 kf hope your meeting goes well 09:18 kf ah 09:18 kivilahtio__ just extended the UseBranchTransferLimits to limit holds as well. Took me 4h! Yay! That was one thing that COULD NEVER be done with Koha :D 09:17 kivilahtio__ I hope I can do it during the weekend. We are having a Evergreen vs Koha final meeting next monday 09:17 kivilahtio__ I can get into migrating our data 09:17 kivilahtio__ thanks! 09:16 kivilahtio__ rok on! 09:16 kf after you have changed the item data yes 09:16 kivilahtio__ rebuild_zebra.pl 09:16 kf important is the full reindex 09:16 kivilahtio__ so I just run the reindexZebra.pl? 09:15 kivilahtio__ ok 09:15 kf what sophie_m says :) 09:15 kf in ealrier times item information was also held in the marcxml and marc fields in the database, so that needed to be synched 09:15 sophie_m kivilahtio__: this script was used to synchronised marc in biblioitems with items data. As biblioitems doesn't contains items info anymore, it is deprecated 09:15 kf you fill the items table directly, then you do a full reindex 09:15 kf but it shoudl not be necessary i think 09:15 kf kivilahtio__: not sure, we have never used it 09:03 kivilahtio__ I would like to migrate holdings to Koha directly to the items table 09:03 kivilahtio__ does this script still exists? misc/maintenance/sync_items_in_marc_bib.pl 08:20 huginn kf: The current temperature in Konstanz, Germany is 16.0°C (10:00 AM CEST on September 27, 2013). Conditions: Light Fog. Humidity: 92%. Dew Point: 15.0°C. Pressure: 29.99 in 1015 hPa (Rising). 08:20 kf @wunder Konstanz 07:40 dcook Have a good day and a good weekend! 07:40 dcook thanks :) 07:40 dcook Hope not. My saturday is tomorrow ;) 07:40 kf and have anice evening! 07:40 kf cya tomorrow :) 07:39 dcook But I really need to run :( 07:39 dcook Hmm, I'm not sure 07:39 dcook Wait, that's the one I want apparently... http://www.indexdata.com/zebra/doc/querymodel-zebra.html#querymodel-pqf-apt-mapping 07:37 dcook http://www.indexdata.com/zebra/doc/character-map-files.html 07:36 kf it's been a long while since 07:36 kf i think someone said there was a problem with utf8 data there, but not sure it's still a problem 07:36 kf yes it does 07:36 dcook I think Jared mentioned that once 07:36 dcook http://www.indexdata.com/zebra/doc/special-retrieval.html#special-retrieval-types 07:36 dcook Hmm, apparently Zebra does facets as well.. 07:34 magnuse just search, as opposed to "prhrase search"? 07:34 dcook Can't remember the difference between w and s 07:34 dcook I know there is title:w, title:p, and title:s 07:34 kf at least we understoood each other :) 07:33 dcook I can't remember the correct term either 07:33 dcook It might be string search 07:33 kf was not sure about the correct term 07:33 dcook Ok...I get what you're saying now 07:33 kf guess so 07:33 dcook You mean word search? 07:32 kf not phrase where the sequence would matter 07:32 kf it's like a title search 07:32 dcook Hmm 07:32 dcook Ah, I see what you mean by prefix now 07:32 kf dcook: hm i don't think so 07:32 samueld hi everybody 07:32 dcook Basically, we'd need an index for every permutation 07:32 kf hm that would only be one I think? 07:32 kf item: branchsomething locationsomething ... 07:31 dcook We'd need a lot of extra indexes though 07:31 kf maybe need to add a prefix not sure, to avoid colliosions 07:31 dcook Yeah, if the logic was there, I could see that working 07:31 kf yeah 07:31 dcook Like that? 07:31 dcook item: branch itemtype 07:31 dcook so item: branch location 07:31 dcook Mmm, I think I getcha now 07:31 kf it's doable, but not easy i guess 07:31 kf so it would require a bit of new logic for the facets to change the links according to what you searched before 07:30 kf well you would construct something like item:branch location as a search term 07:30 kf i think it would be an additional index probably 07:30 dcook It would probably work for single facet searches (but the current indexing does too) 07:29 dcook But I don't know how that would work either 07:29 dcook Instead of having itemtype indexes, you could just have item indexes, and then search those I guess.. 07:29 dcook But you could still run into problems, I would think 07:28 dcook Maybe 07:28 dcook Hmm...now that I think about it...maybe that could work 07:28 kf I think the trick is to have an index where the different infromation is indexed together ... in one term? 07:27 * dcook waits? 07:25 dcook sec? 07:25 kf sec 07:25 dcook No beer o'clock for this guy... 07:25 dcook I should already be on my way to the gym! 07:24 dcook Anyway, I should probably get going 07:23 dcook The only way I can imagine this problem going away is if the items were able to keep their integrity 07:22 dcook Items dissolve into the bib record when indexing 07:21 dcook No, that wouldn't work either.. 07:21 dcook I assume that it would mean the introduction of more indexes? 07:20 dcook Ah, yes, there is that :p 07:20 dcook I don't know how item level facetting could ever work as expected :S 07:20 kf dcook: yeah but it seems i failed to explain how dom could fix it :) 07:20 dcook You and Jared explained the problem a while ago though :) 07:19 dcook Not the solution 07:19 dcook Just the problem 07:16 kf dcook: seems you understand now? about item level facetting? 07:13 kf kia ora magnuse 07:13 magnuse kia ora kf 07:13 kf good morning again :) 07:10 magnuse :-) 07:07 dcook An amazing man, but still only one 07:07 dcook He's only one man 07:07 dcook money, time, and energy :p 07:07 dcook hehe 07:06 magnuse give all your money to jcamins? ;-) 07:05 dcook I wish I can do a fix for search :p 07:03 magnuse oh, and "can day" is short for "can do day", of course 07:03 sophie_m :-) 07:03 magnuse or cannes day, if you are in the south of france 07:02 magnuse it's can day! 07:02 sophie_m yep magnuse and 25° during the day 07:02 dcook Mmm, actually, maybe not 07:02 dcook Or could fix it 07:02 dcook I think I might have just realized how DOM indexing might fix it though.. 07:01 dcook Not a difficult explanation per se but not a fun one 07:00 dcook Yeah...fun times :/ 07:00 * dcook wonders why magnuse and cait are both talking about cans today :p 07:00 magnuse dcook: ooh, that sounds like a can of fun! 07:00 huginn dcook: The current temperature in Bardwell Park, Sydney, New South Wales is 20.0°C (5:00 PM EST on September 27, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 37%. Dew Point: 5.0°C. Pressure: 29.95 in 1014 hPa (Steady). 07:00 dcook @wunder syd 07:00 magnuse hm, is marseille stuck on 20? 07:00 dcook Because even though branch and item type are technically item-level, they're indexed at the bib-level... 07:00 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Marseille, France is 20.0°C (8:30 AM CEST on September 27, 2013). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 83%. Dew Point: 17.0°C. Pressure: 29.95 in 1014 hPa (Steady). 07:00 magnuse @wunder marseille 06:59 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 3.0°C (8:50 AM CEST on September 27, 2013). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 100%. Dew Point: 3.0°C. Windchill: 0.0°C. Pressure: 30.01 in 1016 hPa (Steady). 06:59 magnuse @wunder boo 06:59 dcook For instance, if you look for Item Type A and Branch B, you'll get results for bib records that may or may not contain items that have Item Type A at Branch B 06:59 magnuse bonjour sophie_m 06:59 dcook They don't work very well :/ 06:58 sophie_m hi magnuse 06:57 * magnuse waves pacifyingly to dcook 06:57 sophie_m why should you be angry ? 06:57 sophie_m hello dcook :-) 06:56 * dcook also waves to sophie_m in a non-angry way :) 06:56 * dcook waves to magnuse in a not angry way but goes back to glaring at facets 06:56 dcook Item-level facets :@ 06:52 dcook I imagine that's the problem with my discussion idea as well. There will never be a time when every (regular) contributor is in the same room 06:52 dcook It's not a bad idea, Oak, although it might be tough to get everyone's opinion 06:49 cait have to run :) bbiab 06:49 cait kill the bug! 06:47 wahanui Good, I'm glad you figured it out. I didn't understand, and probably never will, being a bot. 06:47 Oak never mind 06:47 Oak high five 06:47 Oak yes, find the most annoying bug that most of present here name, then on the hackfest, you guys will get the once a year chance of being physicaly present in the same room... and then you kill that bug 06:45 cait something like the most annoying bug or missing enhancement 06:45 * magnuse waves back 06:45 * cait waves 06:45 * magnuse waves 06:45 magnuse cait++ 06:44 Oak we should that from experienced Koha users here as well. 06:43 cait maybe we should ask the libraries what they like least and like best about Koha and take that into the hackfest with us 06:42 cait i was just thinking 06:42 cait yep valid one too 06:37 dcook It's just an idea ;) 06:36 dcook Oh? 06:36 cait dcook: looks like you intend to open the can or worms 06:35 wahanui okay, cait. 06:35 cait hackfest is also http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Kohacon13/Hackfest 06:35 cait thx :) 06:35 dcook Idea for discussion added, cait :p 06:29 wahanui hi, reiveune 06:29 reiveune hello 06:26 dcook I don't know if I have any ideas for tutorials or group work, but maybe some discussion 06:24 dcook Hmm 06:24 dcook http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Kohacon13/Hackfest 06:23 wahanui hackfest is, like, awesome! Group motivated koha hacking is the best koha hacking :) 06:23 dcook hackfest? 06:23 dcook What's the URL again? 06:23 dcook I think I've been nudged enough for one conference :p 06:22 * cait is nudging people to fill the website a bit 06:22 cait you should write something there :) 06:20 dcook Mmm, a little while ago, but not recently 06:18 cait dcook: have you seen the hackfest page on hte wiki? 05:37 cait hi dcook :) 05:37 dcook hey ya cait 05:36 cait good morning #koha 05:16 mtompset Have a great day, #koha. 04:20 mtompset But aren't firefox and other browers dropping plug-in support? 03:36 wizzyrea that is fantastic 02:52 dcook Coool 02:48 eythian http://lwn.net/Articles/568517/ <-- copying images with attribution automatically. 02:48 wahanui No one expects the Spanish Inquisition! 02:48 jcamins Didn't expect that! 02:38 eythian mtompset: randomness doesn't mean giving a different response, just that it might give a different response :) 01:42 wizzyrea totes. 01:42 wahanui You should blog about it. 01:42 wizzyrea it works! 01:25 * dcook waves 01:20 mtompset Greetings, dcook. :) 01:19 mtompset bah, wahanui, you've become boring. I thought you had some randomness in there. 01:19 wahanui For now... 01:19 mtompset it works! 01:19 mtompset it works maybe! 01:19 wahanui For now... 01:19 mtompset it works? 01:19 wahanui For now... 01:19 mtompset it works? 01:19 wahanui For now... 01:19 mtompset it works? 00:01 dcook morning folks