Time Nick Message 00:19 BobB hi 00:19 wahanui kai ora, BobB 00:19 BobB :) 00:46 rambutan hi BobB 00:47 mtompset Greetings, #koha. 00:47 rambutan hi mtompset 00:47 mtompset Greetings, rambutan. 00:47 mtompset I got my little bit of work done. YAY! :) 00:47 rambutan ah, well good 00:47 mtompset Isn't The 23rd a GBSD? 00:48 rambutan i don't recall 00:48 rambutan there's probably a wahanui trigger for it 00:49 mtompset http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/2013-09-23_Global_bug_squashing_day 00:49 mtompset gbsd? 00:49 wahanui somebody said gbsd was Global Bug Squashing Day 00:50 mtompset Followed by a QA Sprint day. 00:50 mtompset http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/2013-09-24_QA_Sprint_Day 00:50 mtompset given that... 00:50 mtompset feature slush? 00:50 wahanui i think feature slush is the date stuff that got passed-qa makes it into 3.14 with high probability 00:50 mtompset is the 25th. 00:50 rambutan busy week coming up 00:50 mtompset I was hoping that 10900 would be looked at. :) 00:51 mtompset but everyone has their own bugs they are working on too. :) 00:52 mtompset Because I have an enhancement I'd like in 3.14, but if it doesn't hit feature slush, then it won't make it. And it is dependent on two other of my bugs. 00:59 mtompset Greetings, tcohen. 00:59 tcohen hi mtompset 01:00 tcohen busy sunday, i just got home 01:01 mtompset playing tennis? 01:01 mtompset my Sunday's are generally filled with driving from church to church. :) 01:01 tcohen tennis of course :-D 01:02 tcohen plus several family meetings 01:03 tcohen bye mtompset, #koha 01:04 mtompset Come to think of it, 20+20+60+60 = 2.667h, 35+45+60 = 2.333h -- I spend about 2-3 hours driving every Sunday. Strange for a day of rest. ;) 01:04 mtompset Bye, tcohen. :) 01:04 rambutan bye tcohen 01:05 rambutan mtompset: you aren't driving that far to work, are you? 01:05 rambutan ah, no, ic ic 01:06 mtompset Driving during the week gets worse, I spend about 3hours a day M, Th, and F driving my wife to and from school. 01:06 mtompset Work... I work from home generally, so no driving involved. 01:07 mtompset At worst, I drive into the Toronto office once a week and that's only 1 hour round trip. 01:08 rambutan gee, do you live in Yellowknife? 01:08 mtompset Add in my 40 minutes round trips chauffeuring my brother to work, and my driving schedule goes crazy. 01:09 mtompset No, I live in a town where there is no public transit except one provincial one at impossibly useless times. 01:10 mtompset Thankfully, my work schedule is very flexible. 01:10 mtompset The problem is between sleep, driving, and working, there isn't much time for anything else. 01:10 rambutan I would tend to agree! 01:11 mtompset That's why I'm hoping for my wife to get her G2 license, so she can drive herself to school. 01:12 mtompset Then a significant chunk of chauffeuring disappears. 01:19 rambutan what specifically is g2? 01:21 mtompset G1 is learner's permit, must have accompanying fully licensed driver. 01:21 mtompset G2 is licensed, but still not fully. Curfews and other driving restrictions. 01:22 mtompset G is fully licensed. 01:22 rambutan ic 01:22 mtompset As my wife doesn't have classes from midnight to 5am, I don't think there will be a problem. :) 01:22 rambutan and you have a chauffer's license 01:23 mtompset I'm the only fully licensed person in the household. :( 01:23 rambutan <chauffeur> 01:23 rambutan ok, well, I'm going to check out for the evening, cul. 02:54 mtompset Have a great day, #koha. 03:31 tweetbot_ [off] @KohaAloha: "@gmacmanus, for starters, try the Koha mailing-lists or #Koha on irc -> http://t.co/VEVsWau4ji #KohaILS" 03:39 druthb o/ 03:40 * druthb wonders idly if bag is about--it's early there yet, and a little bit of THE crazy would be a nice capper to a nice weekend. :P 03:44 dcook [off] For any Iron Maiden fans, there's a live show on Youtube. Just sayin'... 03:46 eythian link? 03:47 dcook http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mEEcvj6X_h4&feature=inp-lt-rbr 03:52 eythian ta 04:00 eythian anyone know how to get a list of the distinct values in a spreadsheet column? 04:00 eythian Like select distinct or grouping in sql would give you 04:06 dcook Alas, I think that's beyond my spreadsheet fu 04:06 eythian I figured out (by copying the instructions on a website that explained how to do it.) 04:09 dcook internet++ 04:28 dcook I should be eating lunch but...live stream... 04:32 eythian :D 04:33 eythian http://stackoverflow.com/questions/17607624/is-there-a-way-to-upgrade-a-package-of-koha-from-the-opac-instead-of-the-staff <-- I have no idea what this question is even trying to ask. 04:33 cjh koha has gold and diamond classes :o 04:35 wizzyrea errr 04:36 wizzyrea do they think koha is a CMS? 04:37 wizzyrea http://area51.stackexchange.com/ 04:50 wizzyrea http://area51.stackexchange.com/proposals/60300/koha-open-source-library-software?referrer=11ffo9kVFxwA0SJwD4uepg2 < Going to give this a go - pass it on 04:50 wizzyrea no seriously, pass it on 04:53 tweetbot_ [off] @wizzyrea: "Spread that link far and wide, peeps. I wanna see it all over everything. #KohaILS" 04:55 dcook Hmm. Cool beans. 04:55 dcook I had a friend ask last year why we didn't do something on stackexchange 04:55 wizzyrea well, if we get a bit of a critical mass we can. 04:55 wizzyrea we could still use tags to do koha questions 04:55 wizzyrea i thought having our own might be nicer. 04:56 dcook tags? 04:56 wahanui tags are more for flagging a point in time 04:56 wizzyrea oon stack overflow 04:57 mtj wizzyrea++ aweSUMMM!! 04:57 wizzyrea if someone else wants to send that to the list, I'd be happy 04:57 eythian yeah 04:57 wizzyrea because even though I started it and I'm willing to put time towards it, I can't be the only one 04:58 wizzyrea and it will only work if we get a rather big corpus of people asking and answering questions 04:59 dcook I'm down 04:59 wizzyrea also please feel free to create example questions 05:00 mtj fwiw, i do see some advantages to stack-exchange over the mailling-lists 05:00 wizzyrea yep I do too 05:01 wizzyrea and we've been flagging a bit on questions answered on the lists. 05:01 wizzyrea upvoting and downvoting would be super helpful 05:01 wizzyrea and it *seems* more accessible to lay-people maybe? idk 05:01 wizzyrea anyway - gotta fly, I'm depending on you all. :) 05:01 mtj yes, and yes 05:01 eythian I wouldn't put those fake questions in 05:01 eythian like X and Y 05:02 eythian put real ones in. 05:02 wizzyrea Hm they are supposed to be examples though? 05:02 eythian they're supposed to be examples of real things 05:03 eythian > Write an actual question that you might ask on this site. 05:03 dcook ^^ 05:03 eythian you wouldn't ask for a report involving X and Y, and it's harder for people looking at it to see the relevance if it's dummy questions. 05:03 wizzyrea I think you all can add them too? 05:03 wizzyrea so please do 05:04 wizzyrea plus this every 3 minutes thing is irritating to me :P 05:04 wizzyrea but! I will fight through this annoyance to soldier on ;) 05:05 wizzyrea and seriously I will need help tending this. 05:05 eythian I can't post anything right now, it tells me to wait 3 minutes. 05:26 cait good morning #koha 05:48 mtj heya cait 05:51 cait hi mtj 05:51 cait mtj: I think i had a question about one of oyur patches, but i can't remember the bug :( 05:52 mtj aaah, bug 10825 , i think... 05:52 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10825 minor, P5 - low, ---, mtj, Failed QA , detail.tt displays duplicated enumchron values for serial items 05:55 cjh wizzyrea++ stack overflow 05:57 marcelr morning #koha 06:04 cait good morning marcelr 06:07 cait hm bug 10808 might just fit in before work 06:07 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10808 minor, P5 - low, ---, fridolyn.somers, Signed Off , Thesaurus search form does not correspond to current search query 06:07 marcelr hi cait 06:08 marcelr i applied bug 8956 but it is quite huge 06:08 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8956 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Signed Off , Split serials enumeration data into separate fields 06:08 marcelr nine patches 06:09 cait marcelr: yeah :( 06:09 cait i marked some as new features, i was pondering this to be one too... but it seems more a restructuring 06:09 cait it sure is huge 06:09 cait i am a bit worried if it will allow the same flexibility 06:09 marcelr yes i think so 06:10 cait i hope to take a look at acq search tonight 06:10 cait just not starting with it this morning 06:10 marcelr :) 06:10 cait because i have to set up all kinds of test cases before i run the database update to check if the correct status gets set 06:11 cait i think we have a historical low in the queue :) let's see if gbsd can bring the numbers back up 06:11 marcelr yes: 35 now 06:12 cait well, a lot of the 'doesn't apply' and 'I have a question' ones will bounce back today probably 06:16 * magnuse waves 06:16 magnuse happy GBSD #koha! 06:20 dcook Hey cait, have time for a quick question? 06:21 cait yep 06:21 dcook With your union catalogue, how are items handled? 06:21 dcook Are they added in OCLC or in Koha? 06:22 magnuse no oclc there, i think 06:22 cait magnuse: well pica is owned by oclc 06:23 magnuse ah, ok. i was thinking about worldcat 06:23 cait dcook: we handle them in koha, because we couldn't update them currently 06:23 cait magnuse: yep, not worldcat :) 06:23 dcook Mmm, ok 06:23 dcook I've re-engineered my OAI-PMH harvester, but it currently can't handle items either 06:23 dcook As far as I know.. 06:23 magnuse hehe 06:25 magnuse submit it anyway and just say items don't work :-) 06:25 dcook Hmm, actually, maybe embedded items are included...that's not good.. 06:26 dcook The embedded 06:26 dcook item, biblioitem, and biblionumber fields from the previous 06:26 dcook version of the bib record replace any such fields of those tags that 06:26 dcook are present in C<$record>. Consequently, ModBiblio() is not 06:26 dcook to be used to try to modify item records. 06:26 dcook O_o 06:26 dcook Oh wait, I think that's a good thing.. 06:27 dcook Ooo.. 06:27 dcook I think AddBiblio will add item records, but ModBiblio strips out the items first... 06:28 dcook Anyway, thanks, cait :) 06:29 * cait is confused now 06:31 dcook I might be able to have the harvester handle items as well 06:31 dcook At the moment, I think it will create/delete items... 06:31 dcook While updates won't touch items 06:32 * dcook thanks cait and magnuse for their encouragement last week 06:33 * cait doesn't know what dcook is talking about :) 06:33 magnuse any time! 06:33 cait last week is just one big blur :) 06:33 dcook heh 06:33 dcook The OAI-PMH harvester 06:33 dcook I ditched the Staged MARC import as it was causing too many problems 06:33 dcook Or rather...could've caused too many problems 06:33 dcook It's much more streamlined and robust now 06:34 magnuse yay! 06:34 dcook :D 06:37 cait @wunder Konstanz 06:37 huginn cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 8.1°C (8:35 AM CEST on September 23, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 96%. Dew Point: 8.0°C. Windchill: 8.0°C. Pressure: 30.33 in 1027 hPa (Steady). 06:37 magnuse @wunder boo 06:37 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 9.0°C (8:20 AM CEST on September 23, 2013). Conditions: Light Rain Showers. Humidity: 87%. Dew Point: 7.0°C. Pressure: 29.89 in 1012 hPa (Rising). 06:37 magnuse hah! 06:37 dcook @wunder syd 06:37 huginn dcook: The current temperature in Sydney, New South Wales is 23.0°C (4:00 PM EST on September 23, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 47%. Dew Point: 11.0°C. Pressure: 29.74 in 1007 hPa (Steady). 06:38 magnuse but autumn is definitely here, including the beautiful colours 06:38 * dcook was just thinking your weather didn't seem very summer-like :p 06:38 cait hm we don't have the colors yet, but it's cooled down quite a bit obviously 06:38 magnuse 2 bugs qa'ed since i checked last night => there is still plenty to feed on for gbsd 06:39 cait i already rearranged the clothes in my wardrobe, pulling the warmer things to the front 06:39 * cait wonders when the qa queue would turn green 06:39 cait passed qa is still green with 55, but we are only yellow with 34 - pff. :) 06:40 * dcook didn't realize the colours had significance 06:41 cait green is good, yellow not so much 06:44 cait ok, time to go to work :) 06:44 cait cya all later 06:44 dcook ta cait 06:45 magnuse hm, the colours on the "badges" that contain the numbers do seem to be hard coded: https://github.com/Koha-Community/koha-dashboard/blob/master/views/bug_status.tt 06:45 magnuse unless there is some js trickry on top of that... 06:45 magnuse kia ora rangi_eifl 06:45 magnuse eifl? 06:46 * magnuse pictures rangi at the top of the eifel tower in paris 06:46 rangi_eifl http://www.eifl.net/events/qa-webinar-koha-developer-chris-cormack 06:46 magnuse http://www.eifl.net/ - ah the web seminar thingy? 06:46 rangi_eifl should be starting in 15 mins or so 06:46 magnuse cool! 06:47 rangi_eifl we'll see, most of the questions I have seen are not really suited to a webinar, i suspect ill be showing a lot of links :) 06:47 magnuse :-) 06:47 rangi_eifl plus computers 06:47 rangi_eifl you know its gonna break somehow 06:48 dcook hehe 06:48 rangi_eifl had to jump through hoops getting java installed, then allowing applets in firefox 06:49 rangi_eifl cos, i had disabled all that .. who does java applets anymore .. people who like to p0wn people, and webinar software 06:50 rangi_eifl so its running in its own vm 06:50 rangi_eifl which can asplode when i finish 06:50 rangi_eifl hence using the oftc web thinger 06:51 magnuse banks tend to like java aplets, but i guess they like to p0wn people... 06:51 rangi_eifl https://gnu.org/gnu30/celebration 06:51 rangi_eifl we should do something for this 06:52 reiveune hello 06:52 rangi_eifl https://gnu.org/gnu30/gnu30.html 06:56 gaetan_B hello 06:56 wahanui hola, gaetan_B 06:56 rangi_eifl heh, timezone fail, its one more hour 07:06 samueld hi everybody 07:29 magnuse http://area51.stackexchange.com/proposals/60300/koha-open-source-library-software?referrer=Owta03DIt70A0SJwD4uepg2 needs 52 more followers - can we get there? 07:40 kf good morning #koha 07:40 magnuse guten morgen kf 07:41 magnuse signed up for stack exchange yet? 07:41 kf um not yet 07:44 kf bgkriegel++ 07:45 kf @later tell bgkriegel - seeing your po file for the marc frameworks - great idea :) would it be possible to show the field/subfield somehow in a comment? 07:45 huginn kf: The operation succeeded. 07:48 magnuse more po files? 07:48 wahanui more po files are bug 7934 and bug 7939 07:48 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7934 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, frederic, NEW , Separate po file for help pages 07:48 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7939 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, frederic, NEW , Separate po files for different MARC dialects 07:51 magnuse ah, not directly related, i guess 07:51 kf magnuse: not directly... but maybe 07:52 kf tcohen++ bgkriegel++ # all the hard work 08:27 kf hi rangi_eifl :) 08:41 kf magnuse: here? 08:41 wahanui it has been said that here is where I work 09:18 magnuse kf: um yup! 09:23 tweetbot_ [off] @_cjh: "Koha 3.8.18 released #KohaILS http://t.co/M8GinXRreL" 09:25 kf 18 already? wow 09:29 rangi cjh: around? release notes say 3.8.14 09:30 cjh you are kidding, one moment 09:30 cjh oh the 'the last koha release was...' part 09:32 rangi hmm might have just been your email :) 09:33 cjh ohh bugger, I must have loaded the wrong file into my email client :( 09:33 rangi hehe yeah its fine on the website 09:34 cjh ty for catching that. 09:35 rangi no worries 09:39 cjh tlc also appear to be having some network faults(80% packet loss at a node, only getting 60Kb/s to kc), so my upload bailed out at 99% without me noticing, not exactly a smooth release :) 09:40 rangi heh 09:40 rangi yeah its been patchy since the new owners took over 09:41 kf new owners? 09:42 cjh nz isps, vodafone bought telstraclear[C 09:42 kf oh 09:43 * kf curses aobut the daily quotes not moving to the left where i want them to be. 09:43 kf sorry :) 09:45 magnuse sounds like the related css might need a patch? 09:52 cjh and in theory that is all fixed.. sorry about that all, bed time for me I think. 09:52 cjh new email sent, file re-uploaded. 09:53 rangi :) sleep well 10:00 * wizzyrea_web waves 10:02 magnuse half way numbers: http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/2013-09-23_Global_bug_squashing_day#Middle 10:02 magnuse kia ora wizzyrea_web! 10:02 magnuse cjh++ 10:03 magnuse "Failed QA" and "Doesn't apply" are deacreasing, at least 10:03 magnuse :-) 10:11 wizzyrea_web oy I need to get back with her. 10:11 wizzyrea_web so many things to do. 10:13 * kf waves at wizzyrea 10:14 wizzyrea_web hallo kf! 10:26 magnuse wizzyrea++ 10:28 wizzyrea_web http://area51.stackexchange.com/proposals/60300/koha-open-source-library-software nudge nudge 10:29 magnuse wink wink 11:10 drojf hi #koha 11:11 wizzyrea_web hallo 11:11 wizzyrea_web welcome to monday 11:11 drojf :D 11:12 drojf i put up a limesurvey thingy for the kohacon vote. would be nice if some people could try if it works ok and if so i'd start a fresh copy later today and send it to the lists 11:13 drojf http://abunchofthings.net/limesurvey/index.php/968417/lang-en 11:15 drojf have to leave for the library, will check the log later 11:53 magnuse drojf++ 11:53 magnuse @later tell drojf: the limesurvey thingy works nicely for me 11:53 huginn magnuse: The operation succeeded. 11:55 kf @later tell drojf: works fine for me too :) 11:55 huginn kf: The operation succeeded. 12:24 mtompset Greetings, #koha. 12:24 mtompset How goes the bug squashing day? 12:27 oleonard Hi #koha 12:27 mtompset Greetings, oleonard. 12:27 * oleonard doesn't like bug squashing days that start during his weekend--cuts down on bug-squashing time 12:28 mtompset It isn't about quantity. It's about quality. :) 12:30 kf oleonard: i am sure you are going to make up for th emissed time :) 12:31 magnuse oleonard: you still have something like 21.5 hours to go, if you choose hawaii time 12:34 tcohen hi magnuse , #koha 12:34 magnuse hiya tcohen 12:36 magnuse nudge nudge http://area51.stackexchange.com/proposals/60300/koha-open-source-library-software?referrer=Owta03DIt70A0SJwD4uepg2 12:37 tcohen magnuse++ 12:41 magnuse tcohen: are you a follower yet? ;-) 12:42 tcohen indeed 12:42 magnuse yay! 12:42 oleonard Ouch, responsive demo broken. 12:44 magnuse oh noes 12:44 magnuse let's all shout to wake up wizzyrea 12:48 tweetbot_ [off] @shangueh: "WinIBW sous Wine1.4 pose des problèmes avec l'aide en ligne (urlmon.dll). Retour sous Wine1.2.2. #KohaILS" 12:49 tcohen Nahhhh, stick with Wine1.6 instead! 12:50 oleonard What's the connection to Koha? 12:50 tcohen they seem to be using it to run some library stuff 12:54 oleonard Anyone have a patch they'd like to promote? 12:55 mtompset bug 10900 12:55 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10900 normal, P5 - low, ---, mtompset, Needs Signoff , Incorrect calling conventions accessing C4::Context 12:55 * oleonard isn't qualified to evaluate that patch 12:55 mtompset oleonard: read the code, you'll be scared. 12:56 mtompset how about 7764? 12:56 mtompset bug 7764 12:56 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7764 normal, P5 - low, ---, mtompset, Needs Signoff , INSTALL.ubuntu needs to be updated 12:57 jcamins Someone remind me why we need a StackExchange site? 12:58 drojf hello again #koha 12:58 oleonard Because you don't have enough different Koha support venues to follow jcamins 12:58 mtompset Greetings, drojf jcamins oleonard magnuse kf. 12:58 * mtompset chuckles. 12:59 oleonard I hear Koha support questions are not yet being inserted dynamically into your dreams jcamins 12:59 jcamins oleonard: right-o, thanks. 12:59 magnuse because it would give us the possibility to down-vote less-than-ideal answers 12:59 drojf the log says i should be getting @-later-s. yet there are none. funny 13:00 mtompset what log? 13:00 oleonard Someone else signed in as drojf and stole them? 13:00 wahanui log is http://irc.koha-community.org/irclog/koha/ 13:00 oleonard wahanui++ 13:00 mtompset DOH! It must be morning. 13:00 mtompset Not enough caffeine yet. 13:00 magnuse wahanui++ yeah that was impressive 13:00 drojf oleonard: oh, that evil @laternapping i have heard of 13:01 drojf i did not know it found its way to #koha ;) 13:04 marcelr oleonard: a small patch waiting for some time already? bug 10092 13:04 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10092 trivial, P5 - low, ---, m.de.rooy, Needs Signoff , Small improvements on serial missinglist and receivedlist 13:11 drojf you can still test run the kohacon vote and complain about whatever you like ;) http://abunchofthings.net/limesurvey/index.php/968417/lang-en 13:11 drojf magnuse++ kf++ for trying 13:12 jcamins drojf: I need more cowbell! 13:12 marcelr drojf: complain about whatever you like? a dutch site? 13:13 drojf jcamins: cowbell? :D 13:14 drojf ah, leo has a link to that reference, can't watch it here ;) 13:14 drojf oh, it's also no longer available due to copyright. so much for that 13:15 jcamins It's an SNL skit. 13:15 drojf yes i have found out that much :) 13:17 * magnuse wanders off to make dinner - happy bug squashing #koha! 13:20 oleonard http://vimeo.com/62471659 13:24 kf dinner... it's so early! 13:25 drojf rofl. thanks oleonard 13:25 drojf hi kf 13:25 kf hi drojf 13:25 drojf dinner at 15:30? 13:26 oleonard He didn't specify how long it would take him to make dinner 13:26 kf hm 13:27 * kf imagines an opulent feast 13:27 drojf oh i did not read that magnuse was going to make some. i thought kf was havong dinner 13:27 drojf well, in norway you probably have to go and hunt that bear first and that count as part of the preparation? :P 13:27 drojf or a nice moose 13:28 * drojf would like an opulent feast 13:30 drojf i am not sure if i want to record the IP addresses of the votes. i'm not planning to do real checking (and multiple votes from an ip can of course be normal), but it might be useful to see if hundreds of votes come from the same place. on the other hand, i don't think anybody cared about that the last years, so i'm not sure. opinions? 13:31 drojf i would not publish the addresses afterwards of course 13:31 jcamins drojf: may as well because disk space is cheap? 13:32 kf jcamins: that's not the question here - it's a privacy question 13:32 kf :) 13:32 nengard drojf in past years i didn't track IPs just emails - you had to have a unique email address 13:32 kf drojf: I think we required a name and email address in the past 13:32 nengard and asked for organization but didn't require it 13:32 nengard I have the old surveys still on my server 13:32 kf drojf: I think a unique email address would make sense to me, and a note ont he front page that it won't be published, ip addresses not tracked etc. 13:34 drojf i was thinking of email addresses, but since they are not checked you could fill that with anything too ;) 13:34 samueld hi everybody 13:34 jcamins You need some sort of identifying information, for when someone challenges the results, and IP address is probably the least identifiable. 13:35 nengard drojf i checked them 13:35 nengard and i had a validation script set up 13:35 nengard to make sure it was valid 13:35 drojf in limesurvey? or manually? 13:35 nengard validation in limesurvey 13:35 nengard and skimmed them with my eyes for fake ones (@test.com) or whatever 13:36 drojf and by validation you mean the format of an email address or something that checks if you can send an email to it? 13:36 nengard if you all need i can just recreate the old one ... no one asked me to this time ... but I have it all set on my server still from the last 2 13:36 * oleonard pities the poor survey participants who work for test.com 13:36 nengard :) 13:36 nengard validation = make sure it's formatted as an actual email address 13:37 * jcamins has a friend who uses example.tld for his mail server. 13:37 samueld i've a question : as member of the team for the next release, i 've been elected as vm manager (and for the documentation).I begin to work on it but i 'd like to know where this vm could be hosted and how to plan the release of the vm. I've vm for 3.12 but in french for the moment :-) 13:37 drojf ok then i'll add the field. gotta run. see you later 13:37 kf nengard: i think drojf is almost done 13:38 kf nengard: it hink maybe you we should delete the data from the old surveys at some point 13:39 marjorieCCSR hi, i have a question for deleted biblio 13:40 nengard kf i have the format saved for easy recreation - not the data 13:41 kf marjorieCCSR: you will have to ask it for us to answer :) 13:41 marjorieCCSR ok thanks, it's the first time i use tchat 13:42 marjorieCCSR i'm french so excuse for my poor english 13:42 marjorieCCSR how to recover a biblio deleted 13:43 kf marjorieCCSR: it's currently not possible, the data is still there, but there is no functionality to recover it using the interface 13:43 kf marjorieCCSR: such things were possible in very early version of Koha (so I have been told), but some of it got lost along the way. it would be a nice feature to bring back 13:44 kf marjorieCCSR: you can query the information of your deleted biblios using reports and the deletedbiblio, deletedbiblioitems and deleteditems tables 13:44 tcohen oh, koha-perldeps, not koha-deps 13:44 tcohen testing 3.12.5 tarball install 13:45 marjorieCCSR i tried to use stage marc record, the biblio was imported very well but not the items 13:46 kf marjorieCCSR: aah, then i might have misunderstood what you meant with deleted 13:46 kf marjorieCCSR: i think we need more information about what you want to do 13:47 marjorieCCSR ok, i will try to explain 13:49 marjorieCCSR I can export the good biblio with the items from a backup and i tried to import it 13:51 marjorieCCSR import was successful but the items were not created. 13:59 kf marjorieCCSR: did you select that items hsould be created in staged marc import? 14:00 marjorieCCSR yes 14:00 kf marjorieCCSR: oh. did you check your record has items actually? 14:00 kf marjorieCCSR: if you are using marc21 there shoudl be 952 fields 14:05 marjorieCCSR yes but they are not in the biblio. When i made the import, the message for the items was good "Number of items added 703" 14:10 gmcharlt @quote random 14:10 huginn gmcharlt: Quote #144: "library_systems_guy: (xslt) looks like html and lisp had an ugly baby." (added by wizzyrea at 08:48 PM, June 30, 2011) 14:18 tweetbot_ [off] @tomasitonone: "Koha 3.12.5 released #KohaILS http://t.co/g8fLNtdPew" 15:15 oleonard Hooray! An hour and fifteen minutes talking about RDA! 15:15 * oleonard keels over 15:16 marjorieCCSR kf: sorry. in the file mrc imported there is no 952 but when i did the export i choose to export items. 15:20 druthb oleonard: I'd rather do that, than what I'm doing. 15:20 druthb wahanui: ruby on rails? 15:20 wahanui druthb: i don't know 15:20 druthb oh. 15:21 druthb Ruby on Rails is a poor perversion of Perl done by people who apparently didn't think the Perl community was "nice" enough. 15:21 druthb ruby on rails? 15:21 wahanui somebody said ruby on rails was a poor perversion of Perl done by people who apparently didn't think the Perl community was "nice" enough. 15:21 * druthb nods. 15:22 druthb wahanui: botsnack Ruby on Rails trainer 15:22 wahanui :) 15:24 * druthb blames nengard. 15:24 druthb ohai, nengard! 15:24 * druthb looks innocent. 15:24 nengard um 15:25 * druthb is in a Ruby on Rails class today and tomorrow, so the snark may be running thick. Beware. 15:26 reiveune bye 15:29 kf marjorieCCSR: I am sorry, i am at work and couldn't check IRC for a while. 15:29 marjorieCCSR kf: ok thanks 15:29 gaetan_B bye ! 15:29 kf marjorieCCSR: not sure about your problem - if the record has no items, that's the problem. Depending on the version you come from it might be a bug fixed 15:30 marjorieCCSR i think there is a problem to export 15:30 kf marjorieCCSR: yes, it looks like it 15:30 kf i am sorry, i have to run 15:31 marjorieCCSR ok bye, thanks 15:48 druthb Ruby is a language where they have a fetish about not using standard development terms: threads are called "fibers", libraries are "gems"…wait, what? 15:48 druthb wahanui: ruby? 15:48 wahanui ruby is probably easy to install. Any > 1.8.7 works fine 15:48 druthb puh 15:54 rambuten I've known Ruby developers that are just totally worshipers of the language, and claim to do great and wonderous works with it. 15:56 druthb Oh, I'm listening to one of those now. She's done everything but solve world hunger, apparently, but didn't know what cPanel does as a business. 16:03 gmcharlt jcamins: apropos of bug 8952, what /is/ the canonical way for a Plack application to tell if a given request was made over HTTP or HTTPS? 16:03 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8952 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Passed QA , Add http:// to url in social media links on opac-detail 16:14 jenkins_koha Starting build #115 for job master_maria (previous build: SUCCESS) 16:14 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 10847: Open link to vendor's website in new window <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=d67ef01814fb4ba1519d66d9ad749dfa64e62a76> / Bug 10305 - _increment_barcode is called twice <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=449fc4e168368cc3b1991152f32a2862b578a04c> 16:35 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 10465: remove useless reference to fields 780 and 785 in UNIMARC XSLT files <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=54befcf59ed85be0041d72760eb1771bcce0492e> 16:35 druthb oh, gods…now she's teaching a room full of coders who use git *every day* about git. 16:35 oleonard Someone stop her 16:36 druthb do not tempt me in that fashion, oleonard. 16:36 druthb Do not. 16:36 cait hm? 16:36 cait who is? 16:37 oleonard Why not, druthb? Raise you hand and politely say that she's covering something you're familiar with? 16:38 druthb That's been done, by someone else. She even asked, "you guys familiar with git?" "yep." 16:43 druthb oh, and now she's carrying on about a ruby gem that acts as a wrapper for git… can we do that with Koha, gmcharlt, and confuse *everyone*? Pleeeeeeease? 16:43 gmcharlt druthb: no 16:43 druthb darn. 16:43 * gmcharlt is still traumatized by the executable line noise that is edi4r 16:44 mtompset druthb: Who is teaching? 16:44 druthb @quote random 16:44 huginn druthb: Quote #173: "rangi: there is so much stuff in Koha that is a result of 'omg my staff wont do what they are told to. Please punish the whole world for me.'" (added by wizzyrea at 05:10 PM, December 09, 2011) 16:45 druthb mtompset: lady named Renée De Voursney. Owns her own Ruby consultancy in Seattle. 16:46 druthb I just kind of wonder if we're actually going to see any Ruby code. We haven't, yet. 16:46 druthb (almost 3 hours in…and haven't seen a *line* of Ruby code. 16:48 cait druthb: what's the training about officially? 16:48 druthb Ruby on Rails deployment and administration. 16:51 druthb Inadequate preparation, lack of knowledge about our company, lack of listening to our needs… not impressed. 16:52 rambuten Sometimes it's important to judge such training sessions by the amenities. How are the hors d'oeuvres? Good coffee? Variety of fruit juices? Nice, clean restrooms? Free pens, notepaper, coffee cups? 16:54 druthb I agree, rambuten…but this one is in our shop, so all the usual amenities are here—catered lunch, free sodas, our usual restroom, and smokin' fast wifi. 16:54 rambuten well 16:55 druthb we're paying her for this? Lordy. 16:55 druthb uhm. 16:56 druthb She's teaching us how to test Ruby code—before we've actually seen any Ruby code. 16:56 jenkins_koha Project master_maria build #115: SUCCESS in 41 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/master_maria/115/ 16:56 jenkins_koha * Kyle M Hall: Bug 10305 - _increment_barcode is called twice 16:56 jenkins_koha * Katrin Fischer: Bug 10847: Open link to vendor's website in new window 16:56 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10305 trivial, P5 - low, ---, kyle.m.hall, Pushed to Master , _increment_barcode is called twice 16:56 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10847 trivial, P5 - low, ---, katrin.fischer, Pushed to Master , Open external link to website of a vendor in new tab/window 16:56 jenkins_koha Starting build #116 for job master_maria (previous build: SUCCESS) 16:57 druthb omg. I just *told* her she has put the cart before the horse….and she totally isn't getting it. 16:59 * druthb bangs her head against the desk 17:01 jenkins_koha Starting build #368 for job Koha_Docs (previous build: SUCCESS) 17:01 jenkins_koha Project Koha_Docs build #368: SUCCESS in 11 sec: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Docs/368/ 17:01 jenkins_koha Nicole C. Engard: update cover images w/ delete 17:04 * mtompset can imagine druthb flaying the speaker with a prosthetic leg screaming, "We already know git. Where is the Ruby Code?!" 17:05 druthb tempting, mtompset. Very, very tempting. 17:06 mtompset Your self-control is admirable. 17:07 druthb One of the Ruby 'thangs' is called 'test-driven development". Write your tests before you write your code. 17:07 cait mtompset: she just got new skin on that, so it doesn't seem like a good idea 17:08 mtompset True, but if you are frustrated, sometimes you are pushed to do not so good things. 17:09 druthb I'm just *stunned* more than frustrated. 17:15 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 10911: fix invalid links when displaying records that have 880 fields <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=115a3e6b60cab0e5000483575ca69736bb40ee2c> 17:15 mtompset Wasn't that bot for checking "Needs Signoff" going to be running? 17:16 mtompset I found a bug that needed sign off, but it didn't apply. 17:18 cait mtompset: i think it might still be wip 17:18 mtompset wip? 17:19 rambuten whiskey in progress? 17:20 mtompset Ah... because I did see it run once on a bug that I commented on. 17:21 mtompset rambuten: I think it only becomes a whiskey in progress at beer o'clock. 17:21 * druthb perks. 17:21 druthb Whiskey? 17:22 cait druthb: alcohol is no solution 17:22 cait chocolate is :) 17:23 druthb good plan! 17:24 mtompset Cherry and rum filled chocolate balls? ;) 17:31 tweetbot_ [off] @KohaILS: "#KohaILS Koha 3.12.5 released http://t.co/vxwKpLyR88" 17:38 jenkins_koha Project master_maria build #116: SUCCESS in 41 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/master_maria/116/ 17:38 jenkins_koha Mathieu Saby: Bug 10465: remove useless reference to fields 780 and 785 in UNIMARC XSLT files 17:38 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10465 trivial, P5 - low, ---, mathieu.saby, Pushed to Master , Reference to fields 780 and 785 in UNIMARC XSLT should be removed 17:38 jenkins_koha Starting build #117 for job master_maria (previous build: SUCCESS) 17:50 marjorieCCSR hi, export data tool do not export items of one record ? on the other side, it works when i save on marcUTF8 directly in a biblio record. Is anyone tested export data tool with item? 17:50 tcohen do we need to properly answer the questions at SE magnuse? 17:51 tcohen i mean, if this gets approved: will this go public? 17:52 cait tcohen: i think it already is public - on twiter and everywhere? 17:52 cait marjorieCCSR: which version of koha are you on? 17:52 tcohen cait: ok, thanks 17:53 marjorieCCSR cait: 3.08.05 17:54 cait marjorieCCSR: that's qute old by now 17:55 tcohen =~ /CCSR// 17:56 cait marjorieCCSR: checking if i can find a bug in bugzilla 17:56 marjorieCCSR ok thanks 17:57 cait hm 17:57 cait bug 9046 17:57 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9046 critical, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, RESOLVED FIXED, Items are not exported with the tools/export.pl 17:58 marjorieCCSR huginn : ok thanks 17:58 cait marjorieCCSR: huginn is a bot :) he reacted to my 'bug 9046' :) 17:58 cait saves us from copying bugzilla links :) 17:59 cait the problem is, the bug was only fixed in 3.10 17:59 cait I think updating might be problematic for you (customizations?), but maybe it could be backported 18:00 huginn marjorieCCSR: I'll give you the answer just as soon as RDA is ready 18:00 mtompset But comment 7 says it was pushed to master, cait. 18:00 mtompset oh, never mind. 18:00 mtompset we're talking about 3.8.5 18:01 wahanui Good, I'm glad you figured it out. I didn't understand, and probably never will, being a bot. 18:01 marjorieCCSR cait: ok 18:01 cait hm it might be also affected by this bug 18:01 cait but you coudl try sending yourself a cart with your records from the opac 18:01 cait it attaches a marc file - but i tmight be missing the item data too 18:02 marjorieCCSR cait: we will have 3.12 soon, so i will wait. 18:03 cait marjorieCCSR: ok :) 18:04 marjorieCCSR cait: thanks for your help. bye 18:06 mtompset Actually the bug is easy enough to backport. 18:06 mtompset Just a tiny conflict to resolve. 18:07 mtompset Should I submit the backport? 18:08 mtompset What do you think, cait? 18:09 tcohen bye #koha 18:09 tcohen tough day here 18:10 mtompset Well, you got a release done. 18:10 mtompset tcohen++ 18:10 bgkriegel go relax tcohen 18:10 cait mtompset: if she will update to 3.12 soon i am not sure it will be used 18:10 cait hm we still maintain 3.8... right? 18:10 mtompset yes. 18:10 cait tcohen++ 18:10 mtompset 3.8.18 was just released. 18:11 cait i only confuse numbers these days :) 18:13 mtompset Which frankly is a really long support cycle for 3.8.x 18:14 oleonard We support releases as long as there is a release maintainer who wants to do it 18:15 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 10924: fix updating contact note from OPAC <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=4713a27280b9ee0956c4f2d9ee0e63b12260db01> 18:21 jenkins_koha Project master_maria build #117: SUCCESS in 42 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/master_maria/117/ 18:21 jenkins_koha Kyle M Hall: Bug 10911: fix invalid links when displaying records that have 880 fields 18:21 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10911 normal, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Pushed to Master , Records with 880 fields have broken details links in intranet search results using XSLT. 18:21 jenkins_koha Starting build #118 for job master_maria (previous build: SUCCESS) 18:22 mtompset So, if I decide to post the backport, should I start a new bug for the 3.8.x version, or do I change the status of RESOLVED FIXED on the old one? 18:24 oleonard In the past I've seen patches for previous versions go on the same bug mtompset 18:24 maximep I just love when my client asks questions here :D 18:24 maximep save me from doing it lol 18:24 maximep *saves 18:25 mtompset maximep: You trained them well then. :) 18:25 maximep would be better if I could have time to do the 3.8 backport myself, but oh well 18:25 mtompset Seriously... 2 minutes. 18:28 druthb finally, getting to hack some Ruby code! wahoo! 18:32 mtompset maximep: patch posted on the bug 9046. 18:32 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9046 critical, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, REOPENED , Items are not exported with the tools/export.pl 18:32 mtompset The second patch is basically identical. 18:32 mtompset The first patch is an addition of one line. 18:33 mtompset vs. changing one line (3.10.x) 18:33 mtompset Though, I suppose the use of any over grep wasn't a big thing back then. :) 18:40 maximep mtompset++ 18:41 mtompset You're welcome. :) 18:44 cait gmcharlt++ :) 18:46 jenkins_koha Starting build #369 for job Koha_Docs (previous build: SUCCESS) 18:46 jenkins_koha Project Koha_Docs build #369: SUCCESS in 10 sec: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Docs/369/ 18:46 jenkins_koha Nicole C. Engard: update staff list image 18:48 jcamins gmcharlt: unfortunately, it's kind of difficult. 18:50 jcamins gmcharlt: indeed, I'm not entirely sure it can be done from within the CGI-emulated system. 18:51 mtompset ??? 18:51 gmcharlt short of baking in https://github.com/plack/Plack/wiki/How-to-detect-reverse-proxy-and-SSL-frontend in the default Plack config, I suppose? 18:52 mtompset Ah, that question. 18:52 jcamins Yeah. 18:53 gmcharlt jcamins: any reason not to do that? 18:54 jcamins Every time I bring up reverse proxies, it seems like someone objects. Other than that, no. 18:54 jcamins I already use ReverseProxy middleware for myself. 18:56 gmcharlt I'm inclined to run with that, then -- reasonably supporting SSL-only is too important, IMO 18:57 jcamins Makes sense to me. 18:58 gmcharlt could you work up a patch for that? 18:58 jcamins There's not really anywhere in Koha for that patch to go. 18:58 jcamins Just the wiki. 19:00 gmcharlt hmm, yeah 19:00 gmcharlt ought we to take up 7844 again and just ship a Plack config? 19:01 jcamins Seems reasonable to me. 19:02 jenkins_koha Project master_maria build #118: SUCCESS in 41 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/master_maria/118/ 19:02 jenkins_koha Owen Leonard: Bug 10924: fix updating contact note from OPAC 19:02 cait bug 7844 19:02 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10924 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Contact note not updating via opac 19:02 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7844 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, dpavlin, In Discussion , plack scripts for developers 19:03 mtompset Will packages eventually use Plack by default? 19:05 jcamins Presumably. 19:06 jcamins gmcharlt: Jonathan's third patch looks reasonable to me, though. 19:06 jcamins i.e. I would probably push as-is, and kick the can down the road a little further on Plack+HTTPS-only. 19:07 gmcharlt jcamins: OK, to be clear, does $using_https get computed correctly under Plack with his patch? 19:08 jcamins Let me check. 19:08 jcamins No. 19:08 jcamins Okay, I probably wouldn't push it then. 19:09 jcamins Hm. Hold on. 19:11 cait hm hope people agree with the idea... i started a wiki page for the hackfest: 19:11 cait http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Kohacon13/Hackfest 19:12 jcamins This is... odd. 19:13 jcamins How do I find out the version of a Perl module? 19:13 gmcharlt hope that $Foo::Bar::VERSION is defined 19:13 jcamins Hm. 19:14 jcamins Looks like it was. 19:14 jcamins CGI::Emulate::PSGI 0.12. 19:17 jcamins This is odd. I'm seeing status changes from the bot but no messages. 19:18 jcamins I wonder if it's my e-mail or a change in bot behavior. 19:18 cait no messages if the patch applies i think 19:18 cait just updating the date in the new field 19:18 jcamins Ah. 19:18 jcamins I see. 19:19 jcamins That makes sense. 19:20 jcamins gmcharlt: okay, I have figured it out. 19:20 jcamins If you are using a reverse proxy with Plack, HTTPS is not set at all. 19:20 jcamins The ON/OFF thing is only for if you are not using a reverse proxy. 19:21 jcamins Which is... weird. 19:21 jcamins And seems improbable. 19:21 * jcamins kicks his server repeatedly. 19:22 gmcharlt one thing I'm seeing is that it looks like psgi.url_scheme would get set correctly if one is using starman >= 0.4000 19:22 jcamins How do I see _all_ environment variables that are set? 19:22 jcamins %ENV seems not to be doing the trick here. 19:22 gmcharlt as that's when it starts explicitly supporting SSL 19:24 jcamins $input->https() returns 'HTTPS' 19:26 jcamins But $ENV{'HTTPS'} returns OFF. 19:26 jcamins And %ENV doesn't show an HTTPS member at all. 19:26 cait @wunder Reno 19:27 huginn cait: Error: No such location could be found. 19:27 cait @wunder Reno, Nevada 19:27 huginn cait: The current temperature in MidTown, Reno, Nevada is 18.5°C (12:15 PM PDT on September 23, 2013). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 43%. Dew Point: 6.0°C. Pressure: 30.00 in 1016 hPa (Falling). 19:27 gmcharlt jcamins: not keys %ENV ? 19:28 jcamins Hm. 19:28 rambuten @wunder RNO 19:28 huginn rambuten: The current temperature in Reno, Nevada is 19.0°C (11:55 AM PDT on September 23, 2013). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 34%. Dew Point: 3.0°C. Pressure: 30.00 in 1016 hPa (Falling). 19:28 jcamins I was using Data::Dumper. I'll try keys. 19:29 druthb @wunder 77098 19:29 huginn druthb: The current temperature in Greenway Plaza, Houston, Texas is 31.1°C (2:29 PM CDT on September 23, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 51%. Dew Point: 20.0°C. Pressure: 29.73 in 1007 hPa (Rising). 19:29 jcamins Huh. That lists it. 19:32 jcamins Ah-ha! 19:32 jcamins gmcharlt: the patch is fine. 19:33 jcamins CGI->https() uses some sort of disturbing wizardry that doesn't play nicely with Data::Dumper. 19:33 gmcharlt but upshot is that $using_https is set correctly for you? what's your overall Plack setup? 19:34 gmcharlt in particular, what version of Starman? 19:34 jcamins Starman 0.2014. 19:35 jcamins Wait... this is weird. 19:35 gmcharlt which is weird, because looking at https://metacpan.org/source/MIYAGAWA/Starman-0.2014/lib/Starman/Server.pm, psgi.url_scheme is forced to http 19:35 jcamins Oh, never mind. 19:35 wahanui Good, I'm glad you figured it out. I didn't understand, and probably never will, being a bot. 19:35 jcamins Oh, no, it definitely doesn't work with HTTPS. 19:36 jcamins I mean, it doesn't break regular HTTP, so I'd be fine with the patch. 19:36 jcamins What I thought was weird a moment ago was that despite the links saying http:// I ended up at https:// but that's because the login pages redirect to https. 19:36 * gmcharlt is still inclined to try it with Starman 0.4-latest 19:40 cait bgkriegel++ coming up with new ideas to make translator's lifes easier! 19:54 pianohacker Woohah. Got everything nailed down. See you all in Reno! 19:55 cait :) 19:55 cait cool 19:55 cait did you see the wiki page for arrivals? http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Kohacon13/Arrivals 19:56 pianohacker ah, yes. Still need to pick flight times, but will put that down once I do, thanks 19:56 drojf finally sent out the email for kohacon voting. sorry for the delay 19:57 cait pianohacker: i am waiting on feedback/rebases for some of your patches... *hint* :) 19:57 cait drojf++ 19:57 rangi right, the bot is now skipping stuff that has been recently checked 19:57 cait rangi++ 19:57 rangi Skipping bug, was checked 0 days ago 19:57 cait seems i am not stopping giving out karma tonight :) 19:57 cait koha++! 19:57 pianohacker You have one heck of a transfer set up cait 19:57 cait pianohacker: well not worse than rangi's it seems 19:58 pianohacker heh true 19:58 cait counting the stops 19:58 rangi http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7288 19:58 huginn 04Bug 7288: enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , Invoice improvements - Show only subscriptions 19:58 cait or tcohen's :) 19:58 rangi see the new field, that tracks when the bot last looked at it 19:58 pianohacker as far as 8133, well, still figuring out what to do about that 20:02 * mtompset puts on his chauffeur hat again. 20:02 rangi bbiab school run 20:33 pastebot "gmcharlt" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "not actually a huge deal" (20 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/223 20:35 cait gmcharlt: what are we looking at? :) 20:35 cait btw 20:35 cait i just noticed: It's already QA sprint day! and still GBSD! 20:35 pianohacker gmcharlt: re: my-variables-in-file-scope-kills-plack mail from earlier? 20:37 gmcharlt pianohacker: er, what such email? in the coding guidelines and plack thread? if so, I don't see a rsponse from you. 20:38 pianohacker oh, no, just wondering if that's what the paste was about 20:38 gmcharlt pianohacker: ah, misunderstood -- I had read it as ' re: *my* my-variables-in-file-scope-kills-plack mail from earlier?' 20:38 gmcharlt but yes, that's the thread I mean 20:42 pianohacker gmcharlt: Curses, sorry. Talking about perl can be confusing like that :) 20:55 pastebot "gmcharlt" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "subroutines referring to package-level lexicals in C4" (91 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/224 20:56 * cait is still confused :) 20:57 gmcharlt cait: I've now sent the email to koha-devel that should make it more clear :) 20:57 cait wrk mail kicks me out in 3 mins... that's just in time :) 20:57 * jeff yawns 20:57 jeff greetings. 20:57 cait hi 20:57 gmcharlt jeff: wake up! 20:57 gmcharlt ;) 20:58 jeff :-) 20:58 jeff Dyrcona++ for reminding me (unintentionally) that I'd not re-joined #koha recently 21:01 Dyrcona heh. 21:01 Dyrcona Dyrcona-- # for forgetting to sign off rangi's commits in another project 21:01 huginn Dyrcona: Error: You're not allowed to adjust your own karma. 21:01 Dyrcona hah. 21:01 Dyrcona Saved by the hall monitor. :) 21:04 * cait will take cookies to decrease karma 21:04 cait ;) 21:05 Dyrcona Being told not "to karma yourself" makes it sound ... dirty. 21:06 wizzyrea hallo 21:09 cait hi wizzyrea :) 21:40 pianohacker I think I've found a cheap, JS-compatible regex that doesn't match anything, and I love it: /^.^/ 21:42 jcamins pianohacker: some regex parsers will only treat ^ as special at the beginning of the string. 21:42 pianohacker jcamins: Thankfully not including at least firefox's regex parser, but good catch 21:44 pianohacker jcamins: PHP for one will do that, no? 21:44 * jcamins converts MARC to JSON in one terminal, and loads the JSON in another terminal. 21:44 jcamins This is such a terrible idea I can hardly express it. 21:44 jcamins Let's see what happens, shall we? 21:45 jcamins pianohacker: yep. 21:45 pianohacker eenteresting 21:45 pianohacker jcamins: Felt like being the pipe(2) system call today, hmm? :) 21:47 jcamins pianohacker: I got bored of waiting for the MARC->JSON conversion to complete. 21:47 jcamins I figured, 4-core system, might as well use more than one of 'em. 21:48 pianohacker jcamins: What tool are you using? I can't remember which project it was, but I was looking for a good MARC-as-JSON "schema" 21:48 jcamins MARC::File::MiJ 21:50 pianohacker oh hi galen 21:51 gmcharlt pianohacker: what's up? 21:51 pianohacker just another MARC-related .pm that you wrote :) 21:51 jcamins Hmmm... where's the data going? 21:53 gmcharlt pianohacker: nuh-uh! Bill Dueber wrote it -- I just worked with him to fold it into the MARC/Perl umbrella :) 21:53 jcamins It went... nowhere. 21:53 jcamins Odd. 21:53 pianohacker I'm not sure if I should believe you, gmcharlt... 21:54 gmcharlt I'm not BillDueber! I swear it! ;) 21:54 pianohacker It's like saying there's a .tt owen hasn't touched 21:54 rangi whoops 21:54 cait hi rangi 21:54 rangi http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7683#c33 21:54 huginn 04Bug 7683: enhancement, P5 - low, ---, julian.maurice, Needs Signoff , statistic wizard: cataloging 21:54 cait whoops 21:54 cait heh 21:54 rangi i probably dont need to put that message on for all the patches 21:55 wizzyrea hehe 21:55 rangi just once is enough :) 21:55 cait I'd think so :) 21:55 cait rangi: hm another idea for an enh 21:56 cait could it mark patches that dpeend on something that can't be tested (does not apply, in discussion etc.) as blocked? and unblock it later on? 21:56 cait we had a lot of those dependencies in the list of patches in the past and it was sometimes a bit hard to untangle where you could actually start 21:57 rangi it might do block at some point 21:57 rangi for now it will note it on the bug 21:57 cait yep that's already great 21:57 rangi but if it seems to be being not false positives it could start blocking 21:57 jcamins Okay, there's the data. 21:58 jcamins I'm not 100% sure where it was writing the data to earlier. 21:59 jcamins I suppose to a folder with several gigabytes of unidentifiable data. 22:00 rangi ill just iron the kinks out first 22:01 cait rangi: we will keep an eye on it :) 22:01 cait should the new bot get a name? 22:03 jcamins Gesamtkunstwerk. We should talk about Gesamtkunstwerk more often on #koha. 22:03 rangi hmm? 22:03 wizzyrea i am afraid to google that 22:03 rangi http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8064#c24 22:03 huginn 04Bug 8064: enhancement, P5 - low, ---, julian.maurice, Needs Signoff , Merge several biblio records 22:03 rangi thats better 22:04 cait hm native speakers 22:04 jcamins We need an animated gif for the tumblr. I shall ponder. 22:04 cait is 'issues claims' a good name for the sql profile for exporting late issues as csv file? 22:06 cait noone? 22:06 wahanui noone is, like, here 22:06 eythian hi 22:06 wahanui kai ora, eythian 22:06 cait morning eythian 22:07 eythian what are "late issues"? 22:07 cait serial issues that didn't arrive when they should have 22:07 eythian oh right 22:08 eythian then it seems reasonable to me. More or less what it already is called in the interface. 22:33 gmcharlt cait: serial "claims", at least as used by NA libraries, don't occur until the library has actually requested delivery or replacement of a late issue 22:34 cait gmcharlt: i think koha does not differentiate here 22:35 gmcharlt yeah, at least not currently, though it could be enhanced to do so 22:35 cait gmcharlt: I am still pondering bug 10807 and the subs in the new module 22:35 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10807 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Signed Off , OPAC: There is no authority search history 22:35 gmcharlt maybe "issues to claim" as the name of the profile? 22:36 cait hm i think for the profile it would look not quite right, but just a feeling 22:36 cait or maybe it would 22:36 cait i will suggest it 22:41 cait ... and now i better sleep :) 22:41 cait good night all 23:14 tweetbot_ [off] @nzKoha: "September #KohaILS updates and fixes for your downloading pleasure at http://t.co/qA73lKSXIB Cheers maintainers!" 23:42 * dcook didn't need to sign up to follow the Koha Stackexchange... 23:43 dcook Just an email address 23:43 * dcook realizes how out of the blue those comments are 23:43 * eythian prefers to use openid, though SE's interface for that needs some work. 23:45 dcook Hmm, not sure I'm a fan of all the info it would take... 23:47 eythian that's why openid lets you provide whatever info you like 23:48 dcook O_o 23:48 eythian but also my openid provider requires the use of two-factor auth, which is nice. 23:51 dcook Which provider do you use? 23:53 wizzyrea also USE YOUR VOTES