Time  Nick       Message
23:57 mtompset   If I put up the rebased patch, will you sign it off again?
23:57 papa       sure
23:57 mtompset   papa, I just noticed the bug you signed off doesn't apply anymore, and I figured I should rebase it, before QA complains about it not applying.
23:56 mtompset   dcook++ # better pun!
23:56 dcook      make way?
23:56 mtompset   maybe way? :P
23:56 eythian    yes way
23:56 papa       no way
23:55 huginn`    mtompset: papa was last seen in #koha 2 weeks, 3 days, 16 hours, 26 minutes, and 13 seconds ago: <papa> gotta go, have a nice day all of you
23:55 mtompset   @seen papa
23:54 wahanui    OK, eythian.
23:54 eythian    wahanui: george lucas is also george lupus
22:47 maximep    still incredibly hot and humid :/
22:46 huginn`    maximep: The current temperature in lac st-charles, quebec city, Quebec is 19.4°C (6:46 PM EDT on September 12, 2013). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 92%. Dew Point: 18.0°C. Pressure: 29.65 in 1004 hPa (Falling).
22:46 maximep    @wunder cyqb
22:40 cait       good night all :)
22:38 cait       lots nicer than here :)
22:29 wizzyrea   hm nice
22:29 huginn`    wizzyrea: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 14.0°C (10:00 AM NZST on September 13, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 48%. Dew Point: 3.0°C. Pressure: 29.74 in 1007 hPa (Steady).
22:29 wizzyrea   @wunder nzwn
22:29 cait       brb
22:28 huginn`    bag: The current temperature in Westside, Santa Barbara, California is 26.1°C (3:28 PM PDT on September 12, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 52%. Dew Point: 16.0°C. Pressure: 29.87 in 1012 hPa (Falling).
22:28 bag        @wunder 93102
22:28 cait       brr
22:28 huginn`    cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 10.8°C (12:25 AM CEST on September 13, 2013). Conditions: Rain. Humidity: 93%. Dew Point: 10.0°C. Pressure: 30.18 in 1022 hPa (Steady).
22:28 cait       @wunder Konstanz
22:26 cait       hi :)
22:26 eythian    hi
22:10 cait       want to add to our list? :) http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/2013-09-12_QA_Sprint_day
22:09 cait       yep
22:09 bag        ah you are cait and not kf :P
22:09 cait       i will do some more tomorrow morning - long day today, but i checked, it's until short before noon tomorrow :)
22:08 cait       bag++ :)
22:08 huginn`    04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9299 major, P3, ---, nunyo, Signed Off , for loop in Auth_with_ldap.pm requires an extended patron attribute to be set or LDAP logins fail
22:08 bag        working on QA'ing bug 9299 just being careful :)
22:07 huginn`    bag: kf was last seen in #koha 4 hours, 42 minutes, and 33 seconds ago: <kf> #optimism :)
22:07 bag        @seen kf
20:08 magnuse    have fun #koha
20:02 magnuse    oops, we need to have another gbsd soonish
19:56 magnuse    nm
19:55 huginn`    magnuse: downloading the Perl source
19:55 magnuse    @isitdown
19:51 cait       hm twitter down?
19:50 cait       bgkriegel++
19:49 cait       gmcharlt++ :)
19:46 cait       hm probably not
19:37 magnuse    those aren't very useful, are they now?
19:37 magnuse    also some issues where the itemnumber is null
19:35 magnuse    (always easier to blame someone else, innit? :-)
19:34 magnuse    i might have imported it like that, because i did not check the data from the old system thorougly
19:34 magnuse    not really
19:33 cait       can you see how it happened?
19:33 cait       hm that's not ideal
19:31 magnuse    and also borrowernumber = NULL in the issues table,,,
19:30 magnuse    oh my, i have itemnumbers that occur twice in the issues table...
19:29 magnuse    but of course!
19:29 cait       a cute circus horse of course?
19:29 cait       lol
19:27 * magnuse  gets a picture of a circus horse smelling sawdust in his head
19:26 magnuse    druthb: you would have been ashamed of me...
19:26 magnuse    hehe
19:23 * druthb   perks.    Migration?
19:22 magnuse    i'll try one more problem with my migrated data
19:22 cait       hm?
19:22 magnuse    nah, i'll try one more, cait
19:12 magnuse    yup, but they will have to wait, i think :-)
19:11 cait       any more problems? :)
19:11 magnuse    :-)
19:09 cait       yep that looks about right :)
19:09 magnuse    ...and re-index
19:07 magnuse    for the record: update items, issues SET items.onloan = issues.date_due where items.itemnumber = issues.itemnumber;
19:02 cait       been there too ;)
19:01 cait       the availability information is built from that
19:01 magnuse    ah, of course
19:00 cait       magnuse: it's becuse of indexing
18:58 magnuse    not sure it is good db design to have the due date in the items table, though...
18:58 magnuse    yup
18:54 tcohen     problem solved then :-D
18:52 magnuse    s/guily/guilty/
18:52 magnuse    tcohen: yup, guily!
18:52 tcohen     otherwise you might have found a bug (koha not setting the date there)
18:52 magnuse    looks more like it holds the due date, though
18:52 tcohen     is it migrated data?
18:52 magnuse    according to http://schema.koha-community.org/tables/items.html "[onloan] defines if item is checked out (NULL for not checked out, and checkout date for checked out)"
18:50 wahanui    items.onloan is NULL
18:50 tcohen     items.onloan?
18:47 magnuse    hm, it might be missing a value for items.onloan
18:42 magnuse    tcohen: ?
18:40 tcohen     reload the page magnuse :-P
18:39 magnuse    [off] http://hylte.bibkat.se/cgi-bin/koha/opac-detail.pl?biblionumber=41143
18:39 magnuse    in the opac it shows as on loan, but in the intranet it says "available" as well
18:38 magnuse    not sure yet
18:37 cait       do you have set the due date in the item?
18:37 cait       where doe sit show what?
18:37 cait       hm something with the status i guess
18:36 * magnuse  wonders how a book kan be "on loan to x" and "available" at the same time...
18:31 cait       khall++
18:10 * mtompset grumbles about data types.
18:10 mtompset   ARG! CAST(blah as UNSIGNED) is a MySQLism?!
17:49 jcamins    I think it might be. That's what wahanui says, anyway.
17:45 oleonard   Is it named Joachim?
17:42 jcamins    oleonard: yep.
17:42 wahanui    i guess Storm is named Joachim?
17:42 oleonard   jcamins: Storm?
17:42 mtompset   LAST_INSERT_ID() is the other MySQLism.
17:40 jcamins    Oh man. It's *black* out.
17:39 mtompset   Yes, SUBSTR is a MySQLism.
17:38 mtompset   Haven't looked at the code in a long time, I'll re-check.
17:37 khall      mtompset: you documented that reset_everything and get_next_value use mysql'isms. Is the no longer the case?
17:37 oleonard   where's mbalmer when you need him?
17:36 mtompset   is SUBSTR a MySQLism?
17:36 mtompset   khall: What are the MySQLisms in the Koha::Sequence?
17:33 magnuse    i thought i would make it, but things take too much time...
17:32 mtompset   Yes, it was yesterday.
17:31 * magnuse  missed the meeting - gah!
17:31 magnuse    yes, in the sense that i touch the keyboard when i type :-)
17:31 mtompset   magnuse: Are you a touch typist?
17:30 magnuse    ?
17:30 * mtompset smirks, "Interesting typo."
17:28 magnuse    jcamins: luck you :-)
17:28 magnuse    and i left out a couple of columns when i populated the reserves table
17:28 jcamins    Speaking of ironing, I need to do some ironing tonight.
17:28 magnuse    we were unsure about what to base the home-/holdingbranch info on, and we chose the wrong one
17:27 magnuse    still some kinks to iron out
17:27 magnuse    hehe
17:25 kf         #optimism :)
17:25 kf         oleonard++
17:25 kf         how did it go?
17:25 oleonard   Well, what's important is that you're being productive :)
17:24 magnuse    oleonard: i have been busy screwing up the migration for viktor...
17:22 mtompset   Greetings, tcohen. :)
17:21 tcohen     hi #koha
17:21 mtompset   At least it is way better than Crazy Frog (http://youtu.be/6ocMhp4G3I8)
17:18 wahanui    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jofNR_WkoCE
17:18 jcamins    wahanui: what does the fox say?
17:18 jcamins    We should ask wahanui.
17:14 kf         oleonard: but but but... what does the fox say?
17:13 * oleonard is stubbornly refusing to watch that video, whatever it is.
17:11 magnuse    oleonard: um, no not yet ;-)
17:10 oleonard   magnuse: Did you sign off on it yet? ;)
17:10 magnuse    moahahah
17:10 wahanui    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jofNR_WkoCE
17:10 magnuse    and what does the fox say?
17:09 magnuse    hiya mtompset
17:09 mtompset   Greetings, magnuse. :)
17:08 magnuse    the new theme in yet?
17:07 magnuse    kia ora oleonard
17:07 oleonard   Hi magnuse
17:02 * magnuse  waves
16:54 gaetan_B   bye !
16:53 druthb     :P
16:45 gmcharlt   but ... but ... what's the question?
16:45 * mtompset claps his hands like on a game show, "Good answer! Good answer!"
16:45 * druthb   stands up, yells "42!" and sits back down sheepishly.
16:44 mtompset   An appropriate exit message, I think. :)
16:44 mtompset   It's from "So long, and thanks for all the fish"
16:43 mtompset   http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/The_Hitchhiker%27s_Guide_to_the_Galaxy#Chapter_7_3
16:42 oleonard   Oh that's from HHGTTG? *whew*
16:42 mtompset   No, I think oleonard was wondering about the HHGTTG quote.
16:41 * chris_n  is gone for real this time :)
16:41 chris_n    oleonard: http://www.ask.com/answers/76954141/why-do-people-always-say-run-forest-run-i-don-t-get-it
16:40 kf         chris_n: i will... just a bit short of time right now :)
16:40 * oleonard wonders wtf that parting quote meant
16:38 chris_n    mtompset: ;-)
16:38 chris_n    please annotate the bug if it turns out that you have the same issue
16:38 mtompset   Run ,forest, run! ;)
16:37 * chris_n  has to run
16:37 chris_n    at any rate it looks like he installed the koha-common package and things started working
16:36 chris_n    I guess it is the empty pdf he is referring to in his last post
16:36 chris_n    maybe I'm not understanding the notes either
16:35 chris_n    errr
16:35 chris_n    but I do note that Label.pm has contents in the repo, so I suspect something else went wrong to produce empty Label.pm files on his system
16:34 chris_n    I have not actually produced any pdf's from 3.12 recently
16:34 chris_n    all of the tests I ran for the LCCN bug used Label.pm and worked as expected
16:33 kf         I have a report from a library, but haven't got around to really testing it out yet
16:33 kf         did you happen to test in 3.12 recently if it works right?
16:33 kf         i am not sur i understand the notes correctly - if he overwrote the file from another version or if it wasn't there
16:32 chris_n    if so, I think that is a package bug or some such
16:32 huginn`    04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10828 enhancement, P1 - high, ---, cnighswonger, NEW , Label creator returns empty pdf, xml or csv file
16:32 chris_n    kf: are you referring to bug 10828?
16:25 bag        hey oleonard and kf
16:25 kf         hi bag
16:25 oleonard   Good morning bag
16:24 kf         chris_n: but i think we are seeing the same behaviour here actually, i will see if there is a file missing
16:24 kf         chris_n: someone asked about the label printing - i think it was not related
16:23 kf         chris_n: ?
16:20 bag        morning all
16:19 chris_n    otherwise, please open a new bug for them
16:19 chris_n    kf: if the call number splitting issues are related to LCCN they will probably have to wait for a fix for the underlying library used in 3.10.9 and above
16:10 reiveune   bye
16:05 paul_p     kf = I really really really planned to dedicate my day to QAing. But many many phone calls, urgent mails, invoice to sent today-not-tomorrow, ... it's 6PM, and I QAed no patches :(((( It's really sad...
16:00 smeagol    Hi Brendan..can we do a screen session this afternoon?
15:59 * chris_n  works on feeding himself a salad between keystrokes
15:56 * mtompset takes a gasp of breath, before heading back into the crazy schedule!
15:49 chris_n    kf: here momentarily
15:34 jcamins    And just to confirm, you logged out and logged back in to Koha?
15:33 jcamins    Oh, wait, it's looking for offline.tt?
15:33 rambutan   correction, offline.tt
15:32 jcamins    rambutan: is there any javascript error in the console?
15:32 rambutan   this is using the new offline.pl file, BTW
15:32 huginn`    04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10856 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , Improve the previous and next items on the shelf browser
15:32 oleonard   Joubu++ # for Bug 10856
15:30 rambutan   yea, I'm looking for that too -- "cgi-bin" maybe?
15:30 jcamins    Lemme just check that I didn't get a path switched.
15:30 rambutan   we get the "loading records, please wait", then spin spin spin
15:29 rambutan   yep, nope, that's right
15:28 rambutan   uhhh, stand by one sec....
15:27 rambutan   the link (with the IP) is correct -- the path to that file is correct, and the file is there and appears intact.
15:26 jcamins    *says
15:26 jcamins    I mean, does what it say match what it should say?
15:25 rambutan   no, I've taken out the IP of course for high security obfuscation
15:25 jcamins    Does server:8080 actually match your server?
15:24 rambutan   and on opensuse using FF 23.x
15:24 rambutan   Thats on linux mint which worked last night and on XP, both using FF 23.x
15:23 wahanui    any ideas are welcome :)
15:23 rambutan   any ideas?
15:23 rambutan   this morning that's refusing to download any records, the spinner just sits there and spins
15:22 oleonard   kf: Just the quiet
15:22 rambutan   in the offline module, "download records" calls 'server:8080/cgi-bin/koha-oc/circ/offline.pl#'
15:21 rambutan   hey...
15:21 jcamins    Hello.
15:21 kf         why wouldn't we?
15:21 * oleonard is glad to know some people are alive
15:20 kf         hi oleonard :)
15:19 rambutan   ping jcamins
14:57 oleonard   Hi again #koha
14:49 kf         :)
14:49 * khall    didn't mean to yell ; )
14:49 khall      OK, CAN DO!
14:49 kf         I'd be ok if you added my sign off in that case - because i am quite sure i tested the complete patch and just messed up something in my branch before uploading
14:49 kf         not right now :(
14:48 khall      can you re-sign, then I qa?
14:47 khall      confirmed, that one works!
14:47 kf         i just uploaded the wrng patch i guess :(
14:46 kf         can you try this one?
14:46 khall      yeah, the previous one looks much different
14:46 kf         this patch doesn't look complete
14:46 kf         i must have messed up something
14:45 kf         puzzled
14:45 kf         gmcharlt didn't do a follow up
14:45 kf         ah no, actually one
14:45 khall      there's only one on the bug
14:45 kf         it hsould be 2 patches
14:45 khall      10792
14:45 kf         accidentally deleted the mail already
14:45 khall      koha-tmpl/intranet-tmpl/prog/en/modules/acqui/acqui-home.tt:                <td class="data"><span title="[% loop_budge.budget_amount %]">[% loop_budge.formatted_budget_amount %]</spankoha-tmpl/intranet-tmpl/prog/en/modules/acqui/acqui-home.tt:                <td class="data"><span title="[% loop_budge.budget_amount %]">[% loop_budge.formatted_budget_amount %]</span
14:45 khall      08:17 ~/kohaclone (bug8015-qa *$%|AM u+12)$ git grep formatted_budget_amount
14:45 khall      not what I meant to post
14:45 kf         can you give me the bug number?
14:44 khall      koha-tmpl/intranet-tmpl/prog/en/modules/acqui/acqui-home.tt:                <td class="data"><span title="[% loop_budge.budget_amount %]">[% loop_budge.formatted_budget_amount %]</spankoha-tmpl/intranet-tmpl/prog/en/modules/acqui/acqui-home.tt:                <td class="data"><span title="[% loop_budge.budget_amount %]">[% loop_budge.formatted_budget_amount %]</span
14:44 khall      08:17 ~/kohaclone (bug8015-qa *$%|AM u+12)$ git grep formatted_budget_amount
14:44 kf         shoudl all be on this bug
14:44 khall      I feel like I'm missing a patch, where does formatted_budget_amount come from?
14:44 kf         it really worked for me. hm.
14:44 kf         if you look at the source, are the numeric values in the table?
14:37 khall      CurrencyFormat doesn't change the behavior
14:36 kf         khall: any javascript errors? and doy ou have the numeric values in the html table? (that's the change, similar to hw we handle dates)
14:36 kf         doest hat make a difference?
14:36 kf         there is a pref for currency format
14:36 kf         could you try something?
14:36 khall      yes, I cleared my cache
14:35 kf         khall: interesting - did you shift refresh?
14:02 kf         Joubu++ :)
13:49 kf         http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/2013-09-12_QA_Sprint_day
13:49 kf         the qa list on the wiki fills up a bit :)
13:49 kf         and khall++ :)
13:49 kf         Joubu: thx!
13:08 druthb     g'day.
13:07 khall      g'day druthb!
13:06 khall      excellent!
13:06 druthb     o/
13:06 huginn`    04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8015 new feature, P4, ---, kyle.m.hall, Failed QA , Add MARC Modifications Templates
13:06 Joubu      kf, khall: I will provide a followup and rebased patches for bug 8015
13:06 huginn`    04Bug 10820: minor, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Signed Off , Lost items on search results don't jive with record details
13:06 khall      qa suggestion: http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10820
13:03 xekhz      ok, i will keep reporting :)
13:03 kf         i can't look for it right now, but reporting everything you know on the bug is the best you can do right now I think and that looks good to me
13:03 kf         yeah i think we have to find the source of the problem
13:02 xekhz      i have tried to find out why, i the items hash are return empty on execution from Label.pm
13:02 kf         ping chris_n
13:01 kf         there has been another report about problems with label printing and how the numbers are split
13:01 xekhz      dowloaded from the koha website
13:01 xekhz      and the file from version 3.12.02 was in the koha.tar.gz
13:01 kf         i think we'd need to look at the diff to see why it fixed that
13:01 xekhz      but the file in version 3.06.04 was from package koha-common...deb
13:00 xekhz      to version 3.12.02 and it worked
13:00 xekhz      it copy the file from version 3.06.04
13:00 xekhz      from my prior instalation,
13:00 xekhz      i updated it with an old one
12:59 kf         hm yes, i was not sure i understood that one - was the file missing or did you update it with a newer one?
12:59 xekhz      it works. i would apretiate any  input in this bug
12:59 xekhz      i dont know if it correct or not,
12:58 xekhz      i have posted the bug here and the solution i have found
12:58 huginn`    04Bug 10828: enhancement, P1 - high, ---, cnighswonger, NEW , Label creator returns empty pdf, xml or csv file
12:58 xekhz      http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10828
12:58 wahanui    bugzilla is found at http://bugs.koha-community.org
12:58 kf         bugzilla?
12:58 kf         logging bugs should be done in bugzilla
12:58 xekhz      ok, i will try to explain
12:58 kf         or a configuration issue or whatever
12:58 kf         we can try and help you to figure out if what you see is a bug
12:57 xekhz      to report a bug ?
12:57 xekhz      is this the correct place
12:57 kf         hi xekhz
12:57 xekhz      hello ppl
12:57 kf         and the second comment is a good one :) i thought about that last night
12:57 kf         just wanted to say i am already on that one
12:57 kf         nope
12:56 khall      ahh, I see. I started another bug that depends on this one, and just had a couple qa relevant questions. I didn't change the status did I?
12:54 kf         khall: you are aware that i have been qaing that one for days? ;)
12:54 khall      I see you already replied to my questions, thanks!
12:54 Joubu      sorry, really busy this morning
12:54 Joubu      khall: yep :)
12:54 Joubu      hi #koha
12:52 khall      hey kf!
12:52 kf         hi khall
12:50 * oleonard Meeting; bbl
12:37 khall      is Joubu around?
12:35 oleonard   Hi #koha
12:16 kf         yw :)
12:12 Viktor     Thanks kf I found it and had a look around. Still not easy but better :)
12:10 mtompset   druthb_away: Oh... you're away. :(
11:55 Viktor     kf I see - I'll look into it.
11:54 kf         the advanced search can do that, but you need a login
11:54 wahanui    hmmm... lib-web-cats is a good source, but to limit my search to koha and school library you need to get a free account :(
11:54 kf         lib-web-cats?
11:54 kf         Viktor: do you have an account at libwebcasts?
11:54 Viktor     kf I've been browsing Lib-web-cats, but it's not all that easy to search for both Koha and geographic region.
11:53 kf         hm
11:53 Viktor     kf And it's public libraries.
11:53 kf         if you run the web installer you can install patrons and the like and there are sql files for that, so you can also load them after installing
11:53 Viktor     kf: Mainly they are interested in libraries that has been up and running for a while
11:53 kf         we have some sample data, but not items and records
11:53 kivilahtio kf: I don't want to write migration scripts for our data as I have a feeling there is a precofnigured and populated Koha demo virtual image lying around somewhere
11:52 kf         kivilahtio: there is some example data, but not for everything
11:52 kf         Viktor: i am not sure if one of our libraries would be able to host - and we only have special and academic - what are you looking for?
11:52 kivilahtio kf: Already did that, but I need example data
11:52 kf         and it's really easy with the packages
11:51 wahanui    packages is at http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Debian
11:51 kf         packages?
11:51 kf         kivilahtio: look at doing a migration from scratch - i think it would be worthwhile
11:40 kivilahtio I could ofc migrate up to v3.12 but that might be a tad hard
11:39 kivilahtio I would really much like to test Koha with records, patrons, items, serials etc already in-db
11:39 kivilahtio Do you have any more recent virtual appliances for Koha than the 3.8 I found here? http://kylehall.info/index.php/projects/koha/koha-virtual-appliance/
11:37 Viktor     They are thinking of migrating to Koha and have taken an interest in our migration.
11:37 Viktor     I have a bunch of libraries here in Sweden who want's to go visiting other libraries (in Europe I think) who has been running Koha for a while. Do you have any recommendations?
11:35 kivilahtio Ki ora #Koha!
11:34 Viktor     Hi #koha!
09:40 kf         rangi++
08:06 kf         agreed :)
08:04 rangi      is awesomesauce
08:04 rangi      git bisect run
08:04 kf         automagic!
08:03 rangi      automagically
08:03 rangi      and it will find the commit that cause the test to fail
08:03 rangi      git bisect run prove -l t/some/test.t
08:03 rangi      do this
08:03 rangi      got something that breaks a test
08:03 rangi      its not just for warns too
08:02 rangi      http://blogs.perl.org/users/ovid/2013/09/using-git-bisect-to-track-down-warnings-in-your-test-suite.html
08:02 rangi      you wanna know something even cooler?
07:58 kf         rangi++ # teaching me how to use git rebase --onto :)
07:57 kf         ah before i forget
07:53 * rangi    sets up some overdues
07:52 rangi      oh this one is pretty easy
07:50 kf         thx :)
07:49 rangi      k
07:49 kf         maybe you can add a bit to the wiki too? http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/2013-09-12_QA_Sprint_day - the idea was to show some activity
07:48 kf         hehe
07:48 rangi      anythign is better than looking at c files
07:48 kf         cool - i will try to up 10365 on my list
07:47 huginn`    04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9372 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, sophie.meynieux, Signed Off , Automatic carriage return in message_queue where content_type is html
07:47 rangi      ill look at bug 9372 then
07:45 kf         yeah, i looked at that - but have to figure out the meaning of the different date fields myself first
07:45 huginn`    04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10365 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, chrish, Signed Off , Using published date on routing slips
07:45 rangi      bug 10365
07:45 rangi      hmm the oldest bug in the signed off queue, i cant qa, its a catalyst one
07:43 kf         i think it's a question of your ldap confguration
07:43 samueld    we have sql error and i think the problem is that in one side (koha), i've a categorycode "EMPLOYE" and in the other side , i've "employee"
07:41 kf         samueld: hm, i am not sure it should be aproblem - don't you tell it what you get and what to translate it to?
07:40 samueld    ok, that's for why i've problem for matching categories with categories of our ldap
07:40 kf         that's the reason you can't change it - it's referenced in other tables, so too dangerous
07:40 kf         it's the safest way - then you will have to add new configuration for your catecory - circulation rules, notice triggers, etc.
07:39 kf         you will have to add a new patron category and move your patrons over
07:39 kf         because they are codes - not to be seen by the end user
07:39 kf         and they will always be upper case
07:39 kf         the codes are internal
07:39 kf         but not the code
07:39 kf         you can modify the description
07:38 samueld    i've a sql question: is it possible to modify the name of a categorycode. There's a problem with one in our db. I would like "employee" instead of "EMPLOYE".
07:35 kf         hi samueld :)
07:35 samueld    hi everybody
07:32 kf         hm someone around who could point out the qa sprint in motd?
07:32 kf         :)
07:32 kf         good morning #koha .)
07:11 wahanui    goodnight dcook. You'll be back.
07:11 dcook      night all
07:11 * dcook    heads out while the sun is still up
07:10 dcook      DC now...next MARC21...
07:10 dcook      Got AgriOcean Dspace exporting using custom XSLTs...
07:10 dcook      \o/
06:59 alex_a     salur dcook
06:58 gaetan_B   hello all :)
06:58 dcook      It's raining ;)
06:58 dcook      Ah, kf is on the way
06:58 dcook      I originally started that as just paul_p :p
06:58 paul_p     kf/cait not here ? surprising !
06:58 dcook      salut paul_p et alex_a et gaetan_B
06:58 paul_p     hello #koha
06:38 cait       bbl
06:32 cait       grr.
06:32 cait       hm ok, it just started raining again
06:32 wahanui    que tal, reiveune
06:32 reiveune   hello
05:47 dcook      No doubt..
05:47 dcook      lol
05:47 cait       hm that explains a few things
05:47 dcook      Dspace is written in Java :/
05:47 cait       but why java??
05:47 cait       ok
05:46 dcook      It's a Java class that converts the qualified Dublin Core in Dspace into MARC21 :)
05:46 dcook      Java crosswalk, I mean
05:46 cait       java transform??
05:42 dcook      Although I think I'd prefer XSLT...
05:42 dcook      I think I have an idea how to implement the Java transform that the University of Montreal sent me as well..
05:42 dcook      It certainly is :)
05:41 dcook      hehe
05:41 cait       it's a start :)
05:35 dcook      Not life the universe and everything
05:35 dcook      With Dspace that is
05:34 dcook      I finally figured it all out :)
05:34 dcook      Mmm cookies
05:34 dcook      Thanks :)
05:33 * cait     sends cookies
05:33 cait       ah tomcat...
05:32 * dcook    counts how many times he's had to restart Tomcat today...
05:25 * druthb   sips.
05:25 * cait     gives druthb some milk with honey
05:25 cait       meh.
05:25 druthb     probably, but I'm not, so meh.
05:24 cait       shouldn't you be sleeping?
05:23 druthb     hi.
05:23 cait       hi druthb :)
05:22 druthb     o/
04:54 cait       hi eythian :)
04:53 eythian    hi cait
04:53 * cait     waves to dcook
04:53 * dcook    waves to cait
04:07 mtompset   Have a great day (24 hour period), #koha.
04:06 mtompset   But thanks for that suggestion. I may do that on another day.
04:06 mtompset   Long day today.
04:06 mtompset   It's late. I'm not awake enough to do it.
03:56 eythian    well, you could always sign off on the first one and make a followup to fix it.
03:54 mtompset   I guess I didn't get my first sign off ever. :(
03:40 mtompset   Okay, commented on the bug with my test cases used. :)
03:16 eythian    then I'd throw an error, otherwise people will wonder why it's not working
03:16 mtompset   Correctly and as expected.
03:15 eythian    So, if --use-memcache was provided, they'd be filled in?
03:14 pastebot   "mtompset" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "test case: sudo koha-create --create-db memctest3 --memcached-servers "machinea:911"" (8 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/214
03:14 jcamins    The second "the script" in that sentence refers to koha-create.
03:14 jcamins    To me, your command line seems reasonable, if we are allowing the user to enable/disable memcached using a script. If we are not, then the script should just throw an error.
03:13 eythian    I'd throw an error if command line options don't make sense.
03:13 mtompset   blank is, but weird should be, if no error is given.
03:13 eythian    oh, so valid but not matching the options?
03:13 mtompset   weird isn't generated.
03:13 jcamins    What's the weird configuration that is being generated?
03:13 eythian    as it indicates someone made a mistake somewhere.
03:12 eythian    "can't use --memcached-servers without --use-memcache" or something
03:12 eythian    in that case I'd error out
03:12 eythian    it shouldn't let your system get into a weird state, whether that's through defaults or errors.
03:12 mtompset   the server name, which is expected to be blank, because --use-memcached wasn't set.
03:11 eythian    most things have sensible defaults
03:11 eythian    what is blank?
03:11 mtompset   eg. sudo koha-create --create-db memctest3 --memcached-servers "machinea:911"  -- this generates blank configuration variables.
03:10 mtompset   Hmm... if I use a parameter which implies another parameter should be used, should an error message be given, or should weird configuration be generated?
02:43 jcamins    Unless we're tokenizing it at some point, we can't really do any sort of sanity checking.
02:43 jcamins    I'd think, unfortunately, probably not.
02:42 huginn`    04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10733 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Needs Signoff , Memcached on package installs
02:42 mtompset   Should the port number be parsed, in your opinion, for bug 10733?
02:36 jcamins    A large number. Large enough that I didn't bother counting. :)
02:36 jcamins    Whatever.
02:36 mtompset   >1200
02:36 jcamins    We should.
02:36 eythian    We should have updatedatabase catch that.
02:36 jcamins    Something like that.
02:36 jcamins    I expect you have about... 800?
02:35 eythian    yeah, that's expected.
02:35 mtompset   That's just a snippet of them.
02:35 jcamins    That's because you never set up the instance.
02:35 mtompset   Use of uninitialized value in numeric lt (<) at /usr/share/koha/intranet/cgi-bin/installer/data/mysql/updatedatabase.pl line 75.
02:35 mtompset   DBD::mysql::db selectrow_array failed: Table 'koha_memctest.systempreferences' doesn't exist at /usr/share/koha/lib/C4/Context.pm line 562.
02:34 eythian    I don't know what the errors are.
02:34 mtompset   But if I have a koha-common instance installed, I get a whack load of errors.
02:34 mtompset   I totally uninstalled everything, and then installed the package and got no errors.
02:33 eythian    I have no idea.
02:31 mtompset   Hmm... I didn't uninstall properly perhaps?
02:30 mtompset   okay... I'm having a problem with a rolled package. :(
01:29 dcook      Mmm, good point
01:29 eythian    the last part is actually true
01:29 dcook      Beautiful views ;)
01:29 * dcook    actually had strange dreams where Australia resembled Italy and people transformed into monsters in the dark
01:28 dcook      I sort of love it though
01:28 dcook      You'd think that I would dream about metadata and OAI-PMH these days...
01:28 dcook      Also so that the Australian discovery service Trove can properly harvest from DSpace as well
01:27 dcook      Err export
01:27 dcook      So that I can import the best info from DSpace to Koha
01:26 dcook      Looking at setting up custom crosswalks for the DSpace OAI-PMH server
01:25 dcook      Dspace
01:25 mtompset   crosswalk plugin?
01:25 dcook      I'd like to actually understand this crosswalk plugin mechanism but whatever...if it works that's the most important thing
01:25 dcook      Yep, hehe
01:25 jcamins    You'll need to try either way. :P
01:24 dcook      It might also be that I didn't read the documentation close enough
01:23 jcamins    That is very true.
01:22 dcook      There comes a time when reading documentation gets you nowhere and you just need to try a thing out...
01:12 dcook      A poutine burrito on the other hand...
01:12 * dcook    isn't too fussed on them either
01:11 dcook      I think Nanaimo Bar is a Canadian name. I think they have that dessert in the US with another name
01:10 jcamins    I don't really like layer desserts.
01:09 mtompset   I figured I had to suggest something Canadian. ;)
01:09 mtompset   jcamins: http://www.nanaimo.ca/EN/main/visitors/NanaimoBars.html
01:09 jcamins    I'm quite impressed by the custard. I wasn't actually anticipating it coming out.
01:01 dcook      \o/
01:00 jcamins    Very tasty.
00:46 jcamins    Starting to set.
00:43 dcook      I'm starving now and it's only 10:40am
00:43 dcook      I'm not sure why I'm encouraging you
00:43 * dcook    thumbs up
00:33 jcamins    I figure that's a promising start.
00:33 jcamins    The custard looks like uncooked custard.
00:21 dcook      Just over a month...
00:21 * dcook    is looking forward to jcamins' Kohacon baking
00:08 * jcamins  will make it up as he goes along.
00:08 jcamins    Hehe.
00:08 dcook      I need to wash the pot my wife made lemon curd in?
00:07 * dcook    's got nothing