Time Nick Message 01:33 huginn` New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 10272: (follow-up) add regression test <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=e831a7eb3fe21561264cc756f40c539333e8ebbc> / Bug 10272: make CheckReserves respect ReservesControlBranch <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=78eba2f974ca9e8ff51f64d2356b004e7bfcecff> / Bug 10584 - Hide OPAC biblio details if all items are hidden <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koh 01:43 huginn` New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 10324: fix display of editorial series in normal view (UNIMARC / no XSLT) <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=384566c1295a81dce0d9de001fcde36f2a996dfa> 01:53 huginn` New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 10349 - Don't show empty Descriptions/Title notes tabs in OPAC and staff <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=f5c7badb31dff9afcbb69e4f58155560e98a922f> 02:13 huginn` New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 10333: Labels/t_Batch.t needs to create its own data <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=402435b17a1ae32fb41b6fdde39b94059fdb2c2f> / Bug 10550: DBRev 3.13.00.016 <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=9dc7c378225c1fb1e59b53d7f0245d8f5de07466> / Bug 10550: (follow-up) correct one additional instances of 'wthdrawn' <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a= 02:33 huginn` New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 10325: (follow-up) add test for overriding system preferences <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=3c5e3170b9c62b3f881fdecb15d83a0bc35eed65> / Bug 10325: (follow-up) fix typos and whitespace in httpd.conf example <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=a9719215b45c99e9fa2429992d2b2b1daa1c6cf3> / Bug 10325 - QA Followup - Fix typos <http://git.koha-community.org/gitwe 03:55 * mtompset wonders what to do about a eleven year old comment. 05:13 huginn` New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 10325: (follow-up) restore case-insensivity of syspref cache <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=b4c2ee3d9d22d1be93b6dfca5c251a03ec120125> 05:24 huginn` New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 7478: fix template translation problem in catalogue_out.tt <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=b8e1e7e217363a165275dca46e7d123633a64920> 05:33 mtompset Have a great day, #koha. 05:54 huginn` New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 9531: Make SIP2 message terminator configurable via SIPconfig.xml <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=90e2aafeb538f2d5e52fd1d32fce528f72076df8> 06:04 huginn` New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 9845: correct SIP 08checkin.t <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=6f5eef782cea307da809dfac7a2506a11c2bfda2> 06:15 huginn` New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 9252 - Add option to send patron's home branch in AF field - QA Followup <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=2482819de984200f6c1d0387b3c9fd8ad10940b3> / Bug 9252 - Add option to send patron's home branch in AF field <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=e1de36fbb94c8e4046f564b200a1e8180df5bfcf> 06:36 huginn` New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 10619 - fix errors in sco.css for the CCSR OPAC templates <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=794f0f28c931ae885232c23d02f94bfed66158f5> / Bug 10769 - Simplify clearing of input fields when duplicating a patron <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=1c8c9bb0fe23addc624e2a97331c8ec9cd80a9dd> / Bug 10027: (follow-up) improve display of fine details on printed invoice 07:06 huginn` New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 10320: (follow-up) handle OverDrive authentication failure more gracefully <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=8363e5440ed2cf0f6976ce1e8a965272089ec887> / Bug 10320: DBrev 3.13.00.017 <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=7bc1077763ef0ff84fe658deec59a9c1a961155a> / Bug 10320: (follow-up) tidy up new system preferences <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha. 07:06 cait aah 07:07 cait good morning #koha :) 07:16 huginn` New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 9943: activate "Pay selected" button only when at least one fine is selected <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=6434f9264ac0415e1e52904dc953a00ee0806491> 07:16 cait gmcharlt: still busy? :) 07:26 cait bgkriegel++ 07:27 * magnuse waves 07:27 cait hey magnuse 07:27 cait how is it going? 07:30 magnuse guten morgen cait 07:30 magnuse just about to get started 07:30 magnuse but everything takes soooo much time... 07:31 magnuse as i said on twitter recently: why have libraries not forced vendors to agree on a common format for data export/import between ILSes? 07:35 cait magnuse: guess there are many not so nice about libraries reasons for that 07:35 magnuse yeah... 07:43 gmcharlt magnuse: well, one issue is that they would get used only sporadically 07:44 gmcharlt e.g. lots of reasons to exchange MARC records all the time, fewer reasons to do batch import/exports of anything else 07:44 magnuse gmcharlt: yeah, but maybe more often if migrations were easier to do - and they are hard because there is no common format... ;-) 07:44 gmcharlt (I'm treated things like NCIP, SIP2, OAI-PMH, as fulfilling a different application need) 07:45 gmcharlt magnuse: yeah, but there's always a shorter term need that provides more immediate payoff 07:45 magnuse hehe, true 07:46 cait yeah 07:46 gmcharlt i.e., given a choice between developing a feature that patrons can use "now" versus something that may only be useful to the library five years later, when they get sick of their current ILS... the longer-term considerations is not likely to win 07:47 magnuse well, libraries should force vendors to implement a common format out of their own pocket: "we will not buy this unless it supports import/export with formatX" 07:48 gmcharlt also ... too much emphasis on a common interchange format could run the risk of ossifying ILS R&D even more than it is already 07:48 magnuse but then like every other library standard there would of course be vendor specific versions and implementations of formatX... 07:48 gmcharlt heh 07:48 gmcharlt can you imagine the committee meetings? :) 07:48 magnuse hehe 07:49 cait maybe we really better concentrate on something else :) 07:49 gmcharlt to be honest, IMO it's really sufficient if libraries just get all the vendors to use standard DBMSes, document their database schemas, and provide tools to get *everything* out in text/XML/something-sensible format 07:49 cait also there might be information loss if you tried to define a common format 07:50 cait gmcharlt++ 07:50 cait good morning drojf :) 07:51 gmcharlt and now, to bed ... this time... FOR REAL, I tell you! really, truly! 07:51 cait :) 07:51 magnuse sleep tight gmcharlt 07:52 cait sleep well :) 07:52 * drojf passes gmcharlt the baton of sleep 07:52 drojf good morning #koha 07:52 * magnuse is working on a migration now where i have the whole db i text format, and it is not fun 07:52 magnuse moin drojf 07:52 * cait hands drojf some green tea to start the morning with 07:53 drojf :) 07:53 drojf hi magnuse and cait 07:54 drojf magnuse: i imagined that text db to be on paper and had to laugh. i hope it is not. ;) 07:54 magnuse drojf: not quite :-) 07:54 drojf good :) 07:55 cait hm queue back to 74 07:55 cait i had it down to 69 last night.. 07:55 cait i better get started 07:56 magnuse hehe 08:08 cait one down... 73 to go 08:16 magnuse cait++ 08:16 cait better keep that karma :) 08:16 magnuse @karma cait 08:16 huginn` magnuse: Karma for "cait" has been increased 453 times and decreased 1 time for a total karma of 452. 08:16 magnuse :-) 08:17 magnuse @karma 08:17 huginn` magnuse: Highest karma: "rangi" (895), "oleonard" (768), and "jcamins" (638). Lowest karma: "ie" (-120), "<!" (-114), and "failed" (-104). You (magnuse) are ranked 10 out of 2622. 08:17 magnuse hehe "poor" ie 08:17 magnuse <!++ 08:17 magnuse @karma <! 08:17 huginn` magnuse: Karma for "<!" has been increased 14 times and decreased 127 times for a total karma of -113. 08:18 cait @karma kf 08:18 huginn` cait: Karma for "kf" has been increased 312 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 312. 08:18 cait @karma cait 08:18 huginn` cait: Karma for "cait" has been increased 453 times and decreased 1 time for a total karma of 452. 08:19 cait @karma gmcharlt 08:19 huginn` cait: Karma for "gmcharlt" has been increased 482 times and decreased 5 times for a total karma of 477. 08:19 cait gmcharlt++ # totally needed 08:19 cait hm totally deserved :) 08:25 cait hi connor_dewar :) 08:25 connor_dewar Hello! :) 08:26 cait still learning python? :) 08:27 connor_dewar i am , still my favouite langauge! :), iv also got php under my belt and im about to start working on ruby 08:27 connor_dewar maybe perl to 08:29 connor_dewar so i was wanting to do some work with koha, so i got koha using git but am unsure whats next :/ 08:33 cait :) 08:34 cait hm, where are you stuck? and what have you used as instructions to install? 08:35 connor_dewar i used this link : http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Version_Control_Using_Git . and im not sure what it is i can contribute haha. 08:38 magnuse connor_dewar: have a look around bugzilla and you can probably find plenty to do ;-) 08:41 connor_dewar Will have a look thanks magnuse :) 08:43 cait connor_dewar: you will want to take a look at intallation instructions next i think, if you cloned the git repo 08:43 cait like running Makefile.PL 08:44 cait magnuse++ # developer's handbook 08:44 cait hm qa'd one and signed off one... remaining at 73... doh. 08:44 connor_dewar Where would i find installation instructions? 08:45 cait what OS have you installed on? 08:46 connor_dewar ubuntu 12.04 08:47 cait hm this doesn't look too bad: http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Koha_on_ubuntu_-_git 08:47 cait you probably have done the git steps, but you still might want to install the packages to get the depenencies 08:48 cait hi druthb_away :) 08:49 connor_dewar thanks will do. so with bugzilla, i find a bug that doesnt look too hard, and well fix it? 08:49 cait yep 08:49 cait basically that is it :) 08:50 cait we might have suggestions when you get your koha runnng ;) 08:52 connor_dewar Thanks for the help ill get it going now :) 09:48 drojf @wunder berlin, germany 09:48 huginn` drojf: The current temperature in Prenzlauer Berg, Berlin, Germany is 20.9°C (11:43 AM CEST on September 08, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 41%. Dew Point: 7.0°C. Pressure: 30.09 in 1019 hPa (Steady). 09:49 drojf so the weather lied to me and i spent the last 26° day in a cold library. thanks, weather 10:00 cait sip2 is confusing 10:27 cait yay 10:27 * cait deterines 10817 works as expected 10:44 magnuse bug 10817 10:44 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10817 normal, P5 - low, ---, colin.campbell, Passed QA , SIPserver does not return holds info when requested 10:44 magnuse yay 10:57 cait ColinC++ for providing a test script 11:01 cait and the test script even worked like a charm 11:25 magnuse ColinC++ then :-) 11:28 cait how is the migration? 11:52 * cait laughsl maly having checked out and checked in an item via sip! 11:52 cait lol 11:52 * cait laughs madly of course 12:20 * magnuse thought "laughsl maly" was kinf of appropriate for sip ;-) 12:21 magnuse the migration is slogging along - 80% of the data takes 20% of the time, and then the remaining 20% of the data takes 80% of the time... 12:22 magnuse s/kinf/kind/ 12:23 magnuse heh "cait laughs madly of course" is nice when you take it out of context :-) 12:28 cait :) 12:48 magnuse what does the fox say? 12:48 wahanui https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jofNR_WkoCE 12:48 magnuse moahahahaha 12:49 cait hehe 12:54 magnuse i just had another listen and the view count went up by ~40k while i was watching... 13:22 * magnuse needs some fresh air 13:26 magnuse and a new brain 13:40 cait new brain sounds good 14:08 jcamins magnuse is right. What does the fox say? is horrifyingly catchy. 14:10 magnuse moahahahaha 14:32 jcamins What should I do with a squid? 14:35 magnuse use it as a proxy? 14:36 jcamins Hehe. 14:36 jcamins I was thinking of the edible kind. 14:36 magnuse ah, sorry 14:36 cait carefuly cut it criss cross and then pan fry? 14:36 magnuse what kind? the classical one from the cartoons, with a big head in the middle and arms all around? 14:37 magnuse or the kind with a long tube-like body? 14:37 cait magnuse: i think you think octopus :) 14:37 jcamins Squid = tube-like body. 14:37 magnuse ah, ok 14:37 jcamins I'm not quite ready to try cooking an octopus yet. 14:37 magnuse hehe 14:37 cait octopus is good raw 14:37 cait :) 14:37 * jcamins shudders 14:37 cait so you don't have to cook it :P 14:37 magnuse first thing i think of is calamares a la romana 14:38 magnuse cut the body into rings, dunk them in some kind of uhm batter and deep fry them 14:38 magnuse yummy with a squeeze of lemon and a salad 14:38 jcamins Yeah, that's the first thing that came to my mind too. :) 14:38 magnuse ooh, great minds think alike ;-) 14:39 * cait likes the healthier variant without batter :P 14:39 cait but fried is yummy 14:39 jcamins cait: I'm thinking about something like this, to avoid the unhealthiness of frying: http://blog.foodnetwork.com/healthyeats/2012/05/07/fried-calamari-the-healthy-eats-way/ 14:40 magnuse i once had dinner at a fish restaurant in barcelona. on the next table were a young japanese (?) couple with a dictionary. when they were served large bowls of more or less whole octopus they almost fainted ;-) 14:41 jcamins magnuse: you'd think a young Japanese couple would know how to deal with an octopus. 14:41 magnuse yeah, and they might have done, but it was definitely not what they expected, judging by the looks on their faces 14:42 jcamins Hehe. 14:42 * jcamins wouldn't have expected it either. 14:42 cait that looks very yummy 14:42 cait i will need to buy panko at some point 14:42 cait magnuse: hm raw octopus is janpanese... 14:42 cait japanese 14:43 cait maybe they were unhappy it was cooked? :P 14:43 jcamins magnuse: but you know how it is with octopi: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=7WJXHY2OXGE#t=36 14:45 jcamins cait: yeah, looks like I need to buy panko breadcrumbs too. 14:54 magnuse @wunder boo 14:54 huginn` magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 16.0°C (4:20 PM CEST on September 08, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 59%. Dew Point: 8.0°C. Pressure: 30.21 in 1023 hPa (Steady). 14:54 magnuse @wunder oslo 14:54 huginn` magnuse: Error: No such location could be found. 14:54 magnuse @wunder oslo, norway 14:54 huginn` magnuse: The current temperature in Holter, Holter, Norway is 23.0°C (4:52 PM CEST on September 08, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 60%. Dew Point: 14.0°C. Pressure: 30.18 in 1022 hPa (Steady). 14:54 magnuse @wunder osl 14:54 huginn` magnuse: The current temperature in Oslo Airport, Norway is 21.0°C (4:20 PM CEST on September 08, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 43%. Dew Point: 8.0°C. Pressure: 30.18 in 1022 hPa (Steady). 17:09 * jcamins has squid. :D 17:09 cait yay :) 17:09 jcamins Frozen squid rings, actually, because it was the same price as fresh, and I figured one step at a time. 17:09 cait do you have a teleportert too? 17:09 jcamins Nope. 17:09 jcamins Just squid. 17:09 jcamins And panko breadcrumbs. 17:09 cait ooh 17:12 cait i am trying to test a packages patch 17:41 jcamins This is incredibly awesome: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ywWBy6J5gz8 17:43 cait hi drojf 17:45 * jcamins thinks that all algorithms classes should be taught by Hungarian folk dancers. 17:45 cait :) 17:45 cait bubble sort is nice 19:26 huginn` New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 10331 - Little errors in unimarc_field_4XX.pl (punctuation) <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=86c08e63a25afa86c9051f070d819ddac675425d> / Bug 9924: (follow-up) ensure that correct error message is displayed <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=46bbfa12a1d20cfaea2c61ad9bf1fdb47a25435a> / Bug 9924 - Simplify and rename patron card creator error message include <h 19:33 cait oh looks like gmcharlt is awake again? :) 19:36 huginn` New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 10564 - use OPACURLOpenInNewWindow in UNIMARCslim2OPACResults.xsl <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=bc240a908d0fbc50b099df04e61da9fbb55fab52> 19:56 huginn` New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 10817: return hold items info in SIP Patron Info Response <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=63820d3973dae7514556172665a46c0584aaefc8> 20:13 cait hi Viktor 20:14 Viktor Hi cait! 20:36 huginn` New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 10630: give DelBookseller() a return value <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=995a270dd10bd2dd56222fcdcb29ab033fad567e> / Bug 10718: fix items with no checkouts report <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=ec09fe092e302dfbaf8ddf2a26ab361be9ea915e> 20:46 huginn` New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 10320: (follow-up) remove stray merge conflict marker <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=d3a0e603fb2baa7aef9f1243739b243d0aaff657> / Bug 10640: (follow-up) bump up the number of expected tests in Bookseller.t <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=c26ab35be632e7130a13e94e5767d182a42a2595> / Bug 10640: give ModBookseller() an explicit return value. <http://git.koha 20:58 bgkriegel Hi 21:00 cait oh no 21:00 cait bgkriegel is back to push my queue over 70 again! 21:00 cait ;) 21:00 bgkriegel hehe 21:00 cait just joking, bgkriegel++ for weekend sign offs 21:00 bgkriegel Hi cait :) 21:00 * wizzyrea waves 21:01 bgkriegel Hi wizzyrea 21:01 bgkriegel Hey kiwis, Team NZ 3 - Oracle USA 0, in reality (3 , -2), on America's Cup :) 21:02 jcamins bgkriegel: -2? 21:02 wahanui -2 is good enough for me 21:03 bgkriegel yes, penalized befor start 21:03 bgkriegel something abut the boat 21:04 cait hi wizzyrea 21:05 * cait needs someone to take a look at bug 10667 :D 21:05 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10667 normal, P5 - low, ---, katrin.fischer, Needs Signoff , ILS-DI: AuthenticatePatron should also work with cardnumber 21:05 bgkriegel looking 21:06 cait well, probably not the first in the queue :) just happy that i got the patches done 21:08 cait @wunder Konstanz 21:08 huginn` cait: The current temperature in Konstanz, Germany is 16.0°C (11:00 PM CEST on September 08, 2013). Conditions: Rain. Humidity: 96%. Dew Point: 15.0°C. Pressure: 30.07 in 1018 hPa (Falling). 21:09 bgkriegel @wunder cordoba, argentina 21:09 huginn` bgkriegel: The current temperature in Cordoba, Argentina is 28.0°C (6:00 PM ART on September 08, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 20%. Dew Point: 3.0°C. Pressure: 30.01 in 1016 hPa (Falling). 21:09 bgkriegel not bad for winter :) 21:09 cait you couldsay so :) 21:11 bgkriegel cait: all test pass, that's all? 21:12 cait bgkriegel: the first patch is just adding unit tests - the second is a change and can be tested with IlS-DI too 21:12 cait and running the tests 21:12 bgkriegel ok 21:12 cait you have to turn on the ils-di feature, then if you access the opac page there is documentation on how to craft the URLs 21:13 cait the ils-di documentation page in opac 21:21 bgkriegel ok, works using cardnumber as username :) 21:24 cait sorry, i should have written more about the ils-di part of testing 21:32 bgkriegel cait: done :) 21:33 cait wow - thx bgkriegel! 21:56 eythian hi 21:56 wahanui bonjour, eythian 21:56 cait hi eythian 21:56 eythian hello 22:10 rangi morning 22:11 cait morning rangi 22:24 eythian http://www.niwa.co.nz/niwa-photography-competition/2013 22:37 huginn` New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 10678 - Update addbooks help page <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=6fcb6712fe5411b182b6f0d23c40d3ce6d44f3eb> / Bug 10678 - Allow framework selection when creating from Z39.50 <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=a2e7e6ef1cc4306e5429ca99317b96479cfa26d2> 22:37 wizzyrea what no pictures of the librarians? 22:38 eythian apparently they don't go into icy places so much 23:05 dcook morning #koha 23:06 rangi hiya dcook 23:06 dcook hey rangi 23:06 dcook Good weekend? 23:07 rangi busy but pretty good 23:40 dcook UMontreal++ 23:40 dcook I guess that's only tangentially related to Koha... 23:40 dcook They shared their Dspace MARC export files with me :)