Time Nick Message 03:20 mtompset Greetings, #koha. 03:20 mtompset How do you discover why a line is deleted? 03:21 mtompset git blame -L30,38 .../prog/en/.../opac-facets.inc 03:22 mtompset (v3.12.04) 03:22 mtompset git blame -L30,35 ... 03:22 mtompset (master) 03:22 mtompset Why did the [% OPACResultsSidebar %] disappear?! 03:23 mtompset Even more confusing... why is the div still there?! 03:38 mtompset Ah there it is... commented on the patch. 03:55 mtompset Have a great weekend, #koha. :) 04:54 Oak kia ora #koha 06:36 * magnuse waves 07:02 magnuse Oak 07:47 Oak magnuse 07:50 lakshmi_ does ddc haveto be different for each book 07:59 lakshmi_ am trying to use dewey decimal in koha, but as one catalogs it takes a long time to find DDC for each book, is it ok if one catagory has one number? can any one throw some light 08:05 drojf good morning #koha 08:11 lakshmi_ am trying to use dewey decimal in koha, but as one catalogs it takes a long time to find DDC for each book, is it ok if one catagory has one number? can any one throw some light 08:25 cait good morning #koha 08:37 drojf @later tell jcamins oh, good idea. encrypting the history would be nice! 08:37 huginn` drojf: The operation succeeded. 08:37 drojf hi cait 08:37 cait hi drojf :) 08:54 * magnuse waves again 08:54 cait hey magnuse :) 08:55 magnuse kia ora cait 11:04 magnuse @wunder boo 11:04 huginn` magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 12.0°C (12:50 PM CEST on September 07, 2013). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 82%. Dew Point: 9.0°C. Pressure: 30.21 in 1023 hPa (Steady). 11:04 magnuse @wunder marseille 11:04 huginn` magnuse: The current temperature in Marseille, France is 28.0°C (1:00 PM CEST on September 07, 2013). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 58%. Dew Point: 19.0°C. Pressure: 30.04 in 1017 hPa (Steady). 11:05 magnuse wow! 11:05 magnuse @wunder konstanz 11:05 huginn` magnuse: The current temperature in Konstanz, Germany is 24.0°C (1:00 PM CEST on September 07, 2013). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 44%. Dew Point: 14.0°C. Pressure: 30.01 in 1016 hPa (Falling). 11:05 magnuse yikes! 11:17 cait hm? 11:30 magnuse 24 degrees? 11:31 cait ah yes 11:31 cait summer is back 11:31 cait a bit :) 11:32 magnuse we just had a couple of relatively warm days too 11:32 magnuse but a bit more chilly today 14:50 mtompset Greetings, #koha. 14:52 mtompset Could someone eyeball the diff file for bug 10405? 14:52 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10405 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , User-editable sections should have ids 15:33 mtompset Hmmm... Hello? I'm getting a git bz error, and thought someone might be able to help me get it configured correctly. 15:34 jcamins What error? 15:34 mtompset NameError: global name 'host' is not defined. 15:34 mtompset What value is it expecting? 15:35 jcamins It needs configuration. 15:35 jcamins Will find. 15:36 jcamins http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Git_bz_configuration#Configure_git-bz 15:36 jcamins Non-global 15:38 jcamins Much better. You need to set bz.default-tracker, most likely. 15:39 mtompset I think I made a typo. 15:39 mtompset I typed bug instead of bugs. 15:43 jcamins Yeah, that would do it. 15:44 mtompset multiple times even. ARG! Fixed. 15:46 mtompset There. Care to check bug 10840, jcamins? It's the one line patch you suggested I put on a new bug. 15:46 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10840 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Needs Signoff , Re-add missing [% OPACResultsSidebar %] 15:46 jcamins Will do. 17:47 cait @later tell khall - could you take a look at my follow up for bug 10626 please? 17:47 huginn` cait: The operation succeeded. 18:10 * magnuse waves 18:13 * cait waves back :) 18:31 huginn` New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 10742: improve converting simple search to Z39.50 search <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=0ab71d32641d092d11228f0e2282dd8805198720> 18:33 cait gmcharlt++ :) 18:36 magnuse talking of which... 18:36 magnuse cait: have you had trouble doing z39.50 searches for e.g. titles that contain umlauts? 18:37 cait hm it depends on the target 18:37 magnuse i think there is a problem with æøå... 18:37 magnuse ah, ok 18:37 cait currently i think you have to search with the base character in our union catalog 18:37 cait results look ok 18:38 * magnuse wonders if that is genuine problem with the target, or if it could be fixed with the encoding for the query we send 18:38 gmcharlt magnuse: I can test with a different Z39.50 client if you give me the coordinates of the target and an example search 18:40 mtompset Greetings, magnuse cait gmcharlt. :) 18:40 cait hi gmcharlt and mtompset 18:40 cait gmcharlt: i have problems with your patch for bug 10792 :( 18:40 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10792 minor, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Signed Off , Amounts in funds table on acquisitions home page not sorting correctly 18:40 magnuse gmcharlt: z3950.bibsys.no:2100, as described here: http://www.bibsys.no/files/out/z39.50/bibz.html - let me find an example search... 18:41 gmcharlt cait: could you attach the HTML source of the generated funds table? 18:41 cait sure, give me a second to switch back to my branch 18:42 gmcharlt thanks 18:43 cait http://paste.koha-community.org/202 18:43 magnuse gmcharlt: a z39.50 search for "døden" ("death") gives 2 pages of results in koha, but none of them are in norwegian 18:45 gmcharlt cait: OK, looks like I missed adding the necessary spans for rows where the fund was inactive (which, in my defense, does point to a redundancy in the template that shouldn't exist) -- I'll update the attachment tot he bug report in a moment 18:46 cait cool (or not for the redundancy) 18:46 cait but I am standby to give this another try :) 18:58 gmcharlt cait: all set -- please try again 18:58 gmcharlt cait++ 18:58 cait thx for the follow up :) gmcharlt++ 18:58 magnuse gmcharlt++ cait++ 18:59 cait hmm 18:59 cait gmcharlt: it would have been a bit easier as a follow up patch :) 18:59 cait and keeping the sign off 19:00 gmcharlt meh, my bias is for the ease of folks who need to read the patches later, after we've all forgotten the initial chrun that led to a good one 19:01 gmcharlt but... 19:01 gmcharlt magnuse: busy at the moment? :) 19:01 cait hehe 19:01 cait guess he is 19:01 cait if he is still working at this ungodly hour 19:01 cait i will obsolete the first patch as a start 19:02 magnuse gmcharlt: working on a migration - got 24 hours left to do it in, max 19:03 magnuse banging my head against reserves at the moment 19:03 cait ouch 19:03 cait don't do that 19:03 cait and tell me if i can help 19:04 cait i have done those a few times by now - if the problem is on Koha side 19:05 * cait waits for the tests to finish 19:06 magnuse trying to figure out how to identify records with reserves but without items at the moment... 19:07 cait ? 19:07 cait can you describe it a bit more? 19:08 cait records with no items or title level holds? 19:09 magnuse title level holds 19:10 magnuse and no good record id that carries over from the old to the new system 19:10 magnuse could perhaps have used 001, but they seem to be random 19:10 cait so you need to identify in the old system? 19:11 magnuse so i use a random barcode and then look up the biblionumber connected to that barcode when i import into koha 19:11 cait in koha i thnk the only difference is no itemnumber but only a biblionumber in reserves 19:11 magnuse but that only works for records that have at least one barcode 19:11 cait but how would you add a reserve to a record without any items? 19:12 magnuse the old system has title level reserves on records that are "on order" and have no items 19:12 magnuse that's possible in koha too, right? 19:12 cait @later tell rangi - could you take a look at bug 10792 please? I found a problem with inactive funds not sorting correctly and now it needs another person for QA :) 19:12 huginn` cait: The operation succeeded. 19:12 magnuse or do you have to add a dummy item to be able to reserve? 19:13 cait no reserves without items 19:13 cait how would that reserve be ever filled? 19:13 cait if you want on order records to be hodable, you need to create on order items, using AcqCreateItem = on order later 19:13 magnuse when the item arrives and is no longer "on order" 19:13 cait so you'd need dummy items, as many as the order is if you migrate those too 19:13 cait and link them 19:14 cait hm maybe it works - but it's not possible with Koha right now 19:14 cait i mean, maybe it works if you migrate that way, but you can't do that with Koha's UI 19:14 magnuse huh? but arn't reserves on the record level? 19:15 cait but determining if you can reserve something is item level :) 19:15 cait for example if all items are notforloan, you can never place a reserve 19:15 * magnuse gets dizzy 19:15 cait in hope there once will be an item where you can... 19:15 cait maybe time to take a break and try again tomorrow? 19:15 cait I think i have talked to Viktor about this 19:16 cait about the on order items that have to be created in order to place holds on things that are in the acquisition process 19:16 magnuse well, just adding a reserve to the reserves table, with a biblionumber and borrowernumber should work 19:16 cait it might 19:16 cait i would give it a test 19:17 cait but the user won't see it's an on order record in Koha later - might be confusing. Adding on order items is what i would recommend for the future 19:23 cait jcamins: still around? 19:23 cait i have a search question :) 19:23 jcamins Vaguely. 19:23 jcamins What's up? 19:23 gmcharlt magnuse: I have an idea regarding getting that target to work -- pursuing it now 19:23 cait looking at dcooks patch for 10793 19:24 jcamins bug 10793 19:24 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10793 minor, P5 - low, ---, dcook, Signed Off , XSLT change 780/785 search queries to use ti,phr indexes like other linking entries 19:24 cait and i have doubts that a ti,phr: search will work over multiple subfields correctly 19:24 jcamins You are correct, it will not work. 19:24 cait but i wonder if that's a real problem or only one with my records having a and t filled 19:24 cait 780 0 0 _iVorg. 19:24 cait _aFachinformationszentrum Technik / f 19:24 cait _tFIZ Technik / Maschinenbau 19:24 cait it gives me results... so I am a bit confused here 19:25 cait could you help me out? 19:25 jcamins Why? 19:25 cait why what? 19:25 cait why help me? :) 19:25 jcamins Why do you need help? 19:25 cait because it seems to work... somehow, but it shouldn't 19:25 cait well, it's probably not really exact - or works with some caveats 19:27 jcamins Yeah, just a peculiarity of Zebra, I think. 19:28 cait hm. 19:29 * cait is still confused 19:29 cait *sigh* 19:41 cait ok, left a comment 19:42 * cait updates her UNIMARC installation 19:42 cait jcamins++ 19:58 cait hm 19:58 * cait feels like picking on dcook tonight 19:59 cait well... not really feeling like it... just seems that i found another problem in one of his patches 20:03 magnuse cait++ 20:04 magnuse there is no way in the opac to see if a record has reserves, right? 20:05 cait hm there is 20:05 cait look at system preferences 20:05 cait but it shows up below the items table normally 20:05 magnuse ah 20:05 cait it's something with holds or reserves in it 20:05 cait but it might be inside the items IF 20:07 magnuse OPACShowHoldQueueDetails 20:07 magnuse cait++ for being awesome 20:07 * cait is not 20:07 cait and it seems like dcook's patch works :) 20:09 magnuse yay, even better 20:16 cait and it was oleonard's patch really... i guess i better stop qa'ing after this one for tonight :) 20:23 magnuse cait: kick back with the latest cultural export from norway: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jofNR_WkoCE ;-) 20:29 cait omg. 20:31 magnuse hehe 20:31 magnuse they are comedians 20:31 magnuse it's a "commercial" for their weekly tv show, and a parody of pop music :-) 20:32 cait oh good :) 20:33 magnuse quite catchy though :-) 20:33 cait yeah, that tune might stay with me for a while 20:33 magnuse sorry about that ;-) 20:36 cait could be worse :) 20:39 magnuse hehe 20:40 magnuse what does the fox say is <reply>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jofNR_WkoCE 20:40 magnuse what does the fox say? 20:40 magnuse oh well, time to catch some sleep 20:41 magnuse what does the fox say is<reply> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jofNR_WkoCE 20:41 magnuse what does the fox say? 20:41 magnuse yeah, definitely 20:41 jcamins \what does the fox say is <reply> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jofNR_WkoCE 20:41 jcamins what does the fox say? 20:41 jcamins does the fox say is <reply> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jofNR_WkoCE 20:41 jcamins what does the fox say? 20:41 wahanui https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jofNR_WkoCE 20:43 gmcharlt @later tell magnuse http://git.librarypolice.com/?p=koha-galen.git;a=commit;h=7892d45f631403abd8018dd969db4f6d0a9794fb 20:43 huginn` gmcharlt: The operation succeeded. 20:44 jcamins ... I don't even know... 20:44 mtompset It is catchy. 20:47 cait gmcharlt++ :) 20:52 huginn` New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 7143: history.txt and about page updates <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=dd367efddf887e3197492f11996a36c0d6c5e4c4> 20:57 * cait tries her hand on unimarc cataloguing 21:02 huginn` New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 10793: XSLT change 780/785 search queries to use ti,phr indexes like other linkin... <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=275dfd2fac59c824d9591644fe982e9008032407> / Bug 10218: Add individual CSS classes for bibliographic information in OPAC (UNIMARC) <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=3d6bec745536a3e91e960d55542ec7233c17cfce> / Bug 10835: fix patron search for 21:03 cait coming back? 21:03 magnuse nope 21:03 magnuse clicked the wrong button 21:03 magnuse have fun! 21:12 huginn` New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 10672 - Add subtitle to display of checkouts, overdues, and holds on the patron... <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=ec070fa8375d9001041fc089ff193b17f87ae4c1> / Bug 10721 - Improve DataTables configuration on transfers to receive report <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=8c3d3eb01a91c073aa9a5f2cb016bba01f0529ab> 21:14 * cait fails at adding an authority :( 21:24 cait *grrr* 21:24 cait Unsupported UNIMARC character encoding [] for XML output for UNIMARCAUTH; 100$a -> a at /usr/share/perl5/MARC/File/XML.pm line 505. 21:24 cait it says i have to enter 100$a - then it tells me that whatever i enter there is wrong *sob* 21:25 jcamins 100$a is coded. 21:26 cait there is no plugin or so 21:26 gmcharlt yeah, it's the equivalient of the MARC21 008 IIRC 21:26 jcamins There probably should be. 21:26 jcamins gmcharlt: except a million times worse. 21:26 gmcharlt how so? 21:26 jcamins It's not a fixed length. 21:27 gmcharlt ah 21:27 jcamins There are several different UNIMARC formats, differentiated by the length of the 100$a. 21:27 * jcamins still can't get over this. 21:28 gmcharlt heh 21:28 gmcharlt bbiab 21:49 mtompset is a bit over, gmcharlt? 21:55 mtompset Greetings, druthb. Escaped the clutched of Gauntlet addiction? ;) 21:55 cait hey druthb 21:55 cait :) 22:01 mtompset I take that lack of answer as, "only for a tiny moment". ;) 22:08 druthb Hi, mtompset and cait. :) 22:08 druthb Played Galaga for a while, then went seriously old-school...Berzerk! 22:10 * cait does better not ask :) 22:10 druthb old, old video games, cait. 22:13 druthb Did a little turning today, too....a nice fountain pen, in cocobolo, and a birthday present for my brother. 22:14 cait :) 22:25 druthb Carpe Lignum! Torne Lignum! :D 22:46 cait ? 22:46 cait drojf? 22:46 wahanui rumour has it drojf is from Germany and developing Koha on a raspberry pi 22:46 drojf ыеÑ_ 22:46 drojf ох 22:47 drojf he 22:47 drojf wrong script 22:47 cait lol bgkriegel++ 22:47 cait every single time i get my queue below 70 - bgkriegel pops up and starts adding more patches :) 23:15 cait bgkriegel: i was just talking about you :) 23:15 cait (00:47:12) cait: lol bgkriegel++ 23:15 cait (00:47:27) cait: every single time i get my queue below 70 - bgkriegel pops up and starts adding more patches :) 23:15 cait and now i go to sleep :) bye all 23:15 bgkriegel Hi cait 23:16 bgkriegel late 23:20 * drojf still wonders what cait wanted from him