Time  Nick       Message
00:06 rangi      dcook: http://catalyst.net.nz/Library_Technology_Workshop
00:08 dcook      Wow, that sounds awesome
00:08 dcook      Catalyst++
00:09 dcook      PS The breadcrumb link at the bottom is running into and overlapping the footer :/
00:10 rangi      ahh annoying
00:16 dcook      Any ideas for what will come of the ideas from the workshop?
02:01 mtompset   What is mc-itype?
02:03 jcamins    Item-level item-type, I think.
02:04 jcamins    You should check.
02:05 mtompset   I think it is related to the itemtypes table.
02:05 mtompset   I was looking at http://bywatersolutions.com/2012/07/16/new-items-pull-down-in-koha/ which triggered the question.
02:05 jcamins    Why don't you just check the code?
02:06 dcook      ^^
02:07 dcook      ccl.properties and/or records.abs would tell you in a jiffy
02:07 * dcook    thinks it might be a synonym of itype or itemtype or some such
02:10 mtompset   ccl.properties and records.abs are not code they are configuration files. :P
02:11 mtompset   I wouldn't have known what configuration files to go looking in.
02:12 jcamins    mtompset: the easy solution to this is a little utility you may have heard of before.
02:12 jcamins    It's called grep and is incredibly useful.
02:13 mtompset   true enough, but brute forcing a hunt is less efficient than an educated guess.
02:30 * eythian  prefers 'ack' to 'grep' these days.
02:31 dcook      I've heard people mention ack from time to time, but haven't used it yet
02:31 dcook      Any reason for the preference, eythian?
02:31 eythian    mostly because it's better.
02:32 dcook      hehe
02:32 dcook      Fair enough
02:50 dcook      I love Git
02:50 dcook      Just sayin'
03:28 mtompset   dcook: ack is one less keypress too. ;)
03:47 mtompset   Have a great day, #koha.
04:20 dcook      I had forgotten about http://ratings.koha-community.org/...
05:10 * cait     waves
05:11 dcook      hey ya cait :)
05:12 cait       hi dcook
05:12 cait       :)
05:52 * dcook    notices "Search engine configuration" in Koha > Administration
05:52 dcook      That's promising
05:52 dcook      jcamins's work with the QueryParser, I presume?
05:52 cait       solr
05:52 dcook      I thought solr worked had stalled with Koha
05:53 cait       there is an experimental implementation and that's part of it
05:53 dcook      \o/
05:53 dcook      That's awesome
05:53 dcook      Despite having become familiar with Zebra over the past year, I would like to play with Solr...
05:53 dcook      Plus we already use it for Dspace
06:43 reiveune   hello
06:44 dcook      salut reiveune :)
06:56 waylonR    okay, hello all.. i may of screwed up. i did a git pull, and now i have a whole lot of modified files, and git checkout complains of them.. i never modified them... do i just do a rebase to resolve this?
06:57 dcook      Well...
06:57 dcook      When you say that you did a git pull, what did you merge?
06:58 dcook      What I mean is...are your local modifications on a different branch?
06:58 dcook      Actually, it probably doesn't matter.
06:58 waylonR    well, I did git pull, then solved a conflict, commited that, then git pulled again... and now i have this problem.
06:58 dcook      If you're confident that you didn't modify them, you could try git clean : If you're on a branch where you'r
06:58 dcook      Ack
06:58 dcook      https://www.kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-clean.html
06:58 dcook      That's one reason why I never git pull
06:58 dcook      Fetch then Rebase ftw
06:59 paul_p     hello #koha
06:59 waylonR    hmm.. how does one get all of ones commits?
06:59 dcook      salut paul_p
06:59 * waylonR  wants to make sure i have my commits backed up.
06:59 dcook      What do you have for branches?
06:59 waylonR    hmm? branches i created myself.
07:00 dcook      Right
07:00 * dcook    ponders how to explain
07:00 dcook      Git clean will wipe your working directory
07:01 dcook      So that you'll be back to HEAD
07:01 dcook      If you've already committed your changes, you'll be fine
07:01 dcook      To be honest, if you have loads of modified files...
07:02 dcook      That often happens when it struggles to checkout or you interrupt a rebase
07:02 dcook      What remote branch are you tracking?
07:03 waylonR    ooo.. i can git log --all --author="Waylon"
07:03 dcook      Yep
07:05 dcook      bonjour alex_a et lds
07:06 alex_a     bonjour dcook
07:08 lds        hello
07:10 waylonR    so, just git clean, should do the trick eh dcook?
07:12 dcook      You might need to use one of the other switches like -x or -d I think, but yeah
07:12 dcook      Or...
07:12 dcook      git reset --hard HEAD
07:13 dcook      Actually, probably reset
07:13 * dcook    is trying to remember why he suggested clean
07:13 dcook      Reset is the way to go
07:13 dcook      :p
07:13 dcook      That'll take you back to your last commit
07:14 dcook      You might also have to do something like...git rebase --am or git rebase --abort...it should've let you know on the screen though
07:15 waylonR    9055?
07:15 waylonR    bug 9055?
07:15 huginn`    04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9055 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, wrobertson1981, Patch doesn't apply , Mandumah.com's multiple branch search, multiple branch security mod
07:16 waylonR    waylonR?
07:16 wahanui    you are the 34rd developer of Koha, currently working for Mandumah.com, a digital library archive. Hes currently porting koha 3.0 modifications to Koha 3.10. So far so good, with one patch on bugzilla already. Bug 9055
07:16 dcook      34rd?
07:17 waylonR    yup.
07:17 waylonR    oh..
07:17 dcook      hehe
07:17 waylonR    i was the 33rd.. but
07:17 waylonR    someone missed out someone on a list.
07:18 dcook      So you originally committed some patches back in 2005?
07:19 waylonR    back before git i think...svn...? i spotted a flaw in the new marc system? its been a while.
07:19 dcook      Quite the hiatus
07:20 dcook      Well, welcome back ;)
07:20 dcook      I don't envy you porting 3.0 to 3.10
07:20 dcook      Wait...3.10...
07:20 dcook      So Mandumah is currently on 3.10 and you're porting over all the old 3.0 commits?
07:20 dcook      Sounds like exactly the situation I was in before with 3.8
07:20 waylonR    nope
07:21 dcook      no?
07:21 wahanui    http://i.imgur.com/hVVuP.jpg
07:21 waylonR    mandumah is currently using koha3.0.0pre2
07:21 waylonR    modded.
07:21 dcook      Poor mandumah
07:21 waylonR    cherrypicked fixes, before i got to it.
07:22 dcook      You were saying that people are wanting your recent fixes...
07:22 dcook      But if mandumah is still running 3.0, what's the time crunch?
07:22 dcook      If you don't mind me asking :p
07:23 waylonR    whenever, we just upgraded to a two server system, and its currently running quite well.
07:24 waylonR    ideally though, i want to get it done before end of year. my wife and I are about to spin up a internet cafe... hoping that I'll be able to do devel still, but we'll see.
07:24 dcook      Were you recently saying that your boss was thinking of moving to a different system or was that someone else?
07:25 waylonR    that was me
07:53 * magnuse  waves
07:53 dcook      hey ya magnuse :)
07:54 magnuse    hiya dcook
07:54 magnuse    dcook++ for research on bug 10421
07:54 huginn`    04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10421 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle.m.hall, Failed QA , Add cron script to delete deleted records
07:57 dcook      :D
07:57 dcook      Thanks, magnuse
07:57 dcook      It's something I've wondered about for years
07:57 magnuse    hehe
07:57 dcook      Seemed like a good time to figure out some stuff
07:57 magnuse    yay
07:57 dcook      Still not sure that I get it 100% but...better than nothing
07:58 dcook      Latest iteration of the oai-pmh harvester...
07:58 dcook      1626 insertions
07:59 dcook      And there I was thinking that I never write any patches that aren't tiny :p
08:01 dcook      salut sophie_m :)
08:01 sophie_m   hello dcook and #koha
08:12 waylonR    okay, back from a long call with a webhoster wanting some support, installing cpanel... oh fun, trying to explain to him that it might be best to set up a domain name server with domains that it'll serve, before actually pointing the domain name registration at it.... ah... oh well.. its only for one domain currently, so i let him do it...
08:13 waylonR    dcook, git clean cleaned all the files that didn't exist in the git... but prehaps you mean git reset --hard HEAD?
08:16 dcook      Yeah, I posted that earlier ;)
08:16 dcook      <waylonR> so, just git clean, should do the trick eh dcook?
08:16 dcook      <dcook> You might need to use one of the other switches like -x or -d I think, but yeah
08:16 dcook      <dcook> Or...
08:16 dcook      <dcook> git reset --hard HEAD
08:16 dcook      <dcook> Actually, probably reset
08:16 dcook       dcook is trying to remember why he suggested clean
08:16 dcook      <dcook> Reset is the way to go
08:16 dcook      <dcook> :p
08:16 waylonR    thanks.. yeah.. long phonecall.. and got lost
08:16 dcook      No worries. I shouldn't even be here right now :p
08:17 dcook      Just catching up on email before I meet up with my wife for dinner
08:17 waylonR    don't be late
08:17 dcook      Git reset --hard HEAD almost always solves the problem
08:17 dcook      I've only had to use git clean...once or twice
08:17 dcook      I can't remember why in hindsight
08:17 waylonR    fatal: Could not reset index file to revision 'HEAD'.
08:17 dcook      Some sort of hiccup while changing versions I think
08:17 waylonR    ack.
08:18 dcook      That's...not good
08:18 dcook      Mmm, you might need to cancel the rebase
08:18 waylonR    no, its not. now every file is modified.
08:18 waylonR    didn't start the rebase in the first place.
08:18 dcook      Ah right, git pull does a fetch+merge, doesn't it
08:19 dcook      I never pull myself. I always fetch then rebase
08:19 waylonR    oh wait
08:19 waylonR    git status only lists three changed files.
08:21 waylonR    fixed it.
08:21 waylonR    using git checkout -- koha-tmpl/intranet-tmpl/lib/tiny_mce/plugins/advhr/editor_plugin.js
08:21 waylonR    oh.. maybe the second git reset did it too.
08:22 dcook      Probs
08:23 dcook      You said that you were tracking against the git.koha-community.org website before...but you didn't mention the branch
08:23 dcook      If you're submitting to the community, master would make sense
08:23 dcook      But if you have mods which won't be submitted back (which you indicated to me before), you'll probably want to choose a stable version
08:23 dcook      But I'll drop it there. I know I've said that to you repeatedly for the last couple hours :p
08:24 waylonR    well... both then... ill develop it on HEAD, then drop it to a stable version once all the mods are done.
08:24 waylonR    shouldn't be that difficult to take it back to whatever stable version there is at the time.
08:25 waylonR    Could take a while as it is anyway.
08:25 dcook      You'd be surprised
08:25 waylonR    by the time this is done, there might be a 3.14
08:25 dcook      I sincerely imagine so
08:25 dcook      feature freeze?
08:25 wahanui    feature freeze is, like, 3 October 2013
08:25 dcook      3.14?
08:25 wahanui    well, 3.14 is coming out in November, so anything that gets bumped shouldn't be waiting too long.
08:25 waylonR    ah... damn.
08:26 waylonR    So, i should focus on bug 9055 and get it done for 3.14 eh?
08:26 huginn`    04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9055 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, wrobertson1981, Patch doesn't apply , Mandumah.com's multiple branch search, multiple branch security mod
08:26 * dcook    shrugs
08:26 dcook      However you want to do things
08:27 * dcook    takes a look at the bug
08:28 waylonR    6 users waiting for it, one being nengard.. .so its nothing to be sneezed at.
08:28 waylonR    nengard?
08:28 wahanui    nengard is fast
08:28 waylonR    dpavlin?
08:28 wahanui    Taking over the world is trivial for this one...
08:28 waylonR    ...
08:28 waylonR    elliot?
08:28 waylonR    elliott?
08:29 waylonR    eliott?
08:29 dcook      I've pondered this one before
08:29 waylonR    mirko?
08:29 wahanui    well, mirko is drojf
08:29 waylonR    drojf?
08:29 wahanui    i guess drojf is from Germany and developing Koha on a raspberry pi!
08:29 dcook      What to you do for people who aren't signed in ?
08:29 waylonR    damn..
08:29 waylonR    mtompset?
08:29 wahanui    i think mtompset is disliking finding bugs while testing.
08:30 waylonR    well, this is for a private library, so im thinking, for people who arn't signed in, they're limited to the virtualhost/branch they accessed
08:30 waylonR    for a public library thatis.
08:31 dcook      Mmm, so it would require OpacPublic to be disabled first...ok. Makes sense.
08:31 dcook      Yeah, I think this could be neat.
08:31 dcook      Focus on it ;)
08:32 waylonR    nope... doesn't need opacpublic to be disabled. koha having branch variable in its virtualhost, and CSS overrides... each library can have different css, and branch will set it so only those books in that branch can be seen.
08:32 waylonR    or searched.
08:33 waylonR    so, for instance, a township could have a branch loaded in a cities koha system, and the users would not know it, all they see is their towns koha, as long as they are using the towns library virtualhost
08:33 waylonR    makes sense?
08:34 dcook      Yep. I saw some of that code a while ago, but never really had reason to really delve into it myself. Interesting.
08:35 dcook      Then with your patch they could bypass that a bit?
08:35 dcook      You'll definitely need a detailed test plan for that one
08:36 waylonR    hmm? if they put in branches in the virtualhost, more than just the one, then they could be selected, prehaps yeah. but thats not what you mean?
08:36 waylonR    what do you mean?
08:39 waylonR    what time do you have to be gone, dcook?
10:05 waylonR    okay.. what is the SearchableBranches pref?
10:05 waylonR    SearchableBranches?
10:06 waylonR    ah.. thats my change, i think.
10:52 waylonR    okay, gotta go. laters all.
12:30 mtompset   Greetings, #koha.
12:35 mtompset   Hmmm... what's up with the mass delete of t/db_dependent/lib/KohaTest pm's?
12:38 jcamins    They're useless.
12:38 jcamins    Therefore we might as well remove them.
12:39 mtompset   Were they useful at some point?
12:40 jcamins    I presume they must have been, but honestly I couldn't tell you when or why.
12:40 jcamins    @wunder 11375
12:40 huginn`    jcamins: The current temperature in Glendale, Glendale, New York is 16.3°C (8:28 AM EDT on September 06, 2013). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 53%. Dew Point: 7.0°C. Pressure: 30.25 in 1024 hPa (Rising).
12:40 jcamins    It is absolutely gorgeous today.
12:41 mtompset   @wunder l7e 5y5
12:41 huginn`    mtompset: The current temperature in Schomberg, Ontario is 12.7°C (8:41 AM EDT on September 06, 2013). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 88%. Dew Point: 11.0°C. Pressure: 30.30 in 1026 hPa (Rising).
12:42 mtompset   It's nice in the sun, but a little cool in the mornings now.
12:42 * jcamins  likes cool.
12:42 jcamins    I even like cold.
12:42 jcamins    Cold = bread baking weather
12:43 mtompset   Interesting association.
12:43 mtompset   Second day of JK for my son. Riding the bus is a new experience for him.
12:44 jcamins    JK = Junior Kindergarten?
12:44 mtompset   Yes.
12:44 jcamins    How's that different from preschool?
12:44 mtompset   JK = 4 years old.
12:45 jcamins    Preschool = 3yo?
12:45 mtompset   I believe preschool is 2 and 3 year olds.
12:45 jcamins    Ah.
12:45 jcamins    Interesting.
12:45 wahanui    interesting is sometimes good and sometimes bad
12:45 mtompset   Given the country hopping I have done, Ezra really hasn't done pre-school.
12:45 mtompset   Though, we did put him in daycare to get interaction with other kids.
12:48 jcamins    Wow. Based on this article, Oyster sounds like what book borrowing should be like.
12:49 mtompset   "this article" is not a URL. ;)
12:53 oleonard   Hi #koha
12:53 * oleonard would have been here sooner but had to listen to the catalogers rant about RDA for a while
12:57 jcamins    oleonard: you mean they haven't decided that RDA is a good idea?
12:57 jcamins    Weird.
12:58 oleonard   their trouble is that the records they get from Z39.50 are all a weird mishmash of RDA and AACR2 and they're trying to figure out what to do with them
12:58 * jcamins  suggests cleansing with fire.
12:58 oleonard   Even OCLC is putting out Frankenstein records
13:00 oleonard   Do they take out the RDA and make it straight AACR2? Do they take out the AACR2 and make it as RDA as they know how? Do they keep it a mix?
13:00 oleonard   They want to do it *correctly* but they don't know what is the best way
13:02 * jcamins  suggests picketing in protest of MARC.
13:02 oleonard   :P
13:15 tcohen     morning #koha
13:19 mtompset   Greetings, oleonard tcohen.
13:20 mtompset   oleonard: Sometimes perfection gets in the way of good?
13:21 oleonard   True, but you still have to figure out where good is.
13:21 mtompset   Yes. Good counter point.
13:22 * mtompset grumbles about things not working when he is actually trying to make the test plan for a bug report.
13:25 mtompset   Greetings, maximep cait. :)
13:26 * cait     waves
13:26 tcohen     hi cait"
13:26 cait       hi tcohen
13:26 cait       :)
13:26 cait       on my way home now... long train ride
13:27 tcohen     wifi?
13:29 mtompset   ARG! I hate pop-up windows that lose focus.
13:29 maximep    good morning =)
13:31 tcohen     gmcharlt around?
13:37 * mtompset mutters about forgetting to follow all the test plans steps and being frustrated pointlessly for a couple minutes.
13:39 cait       tcohen: umts :)
13:42 tcohen     so lots of fun :-D
13:45 mtompset   umts?
13:46 oleonard   http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Universal_Mobile_Telecommunications_System maybe?
13:48 cait       tcohen: better than no internet :)
13:48 cait       ... but right now it's too slow to open that wiki page to check
13:48 cait       @wunder Konstanz
13:48 huginn`    cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 26.7°C (3:15 PM CEST on September 06, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 59%. Dew Point: 18.0°C. Pressure: 29.89 in 1012 hPa (Steady).
13:49 tcohen     if you already have the koha-qa tools, you might have some fun
13:50 cait       i will try later, when i get into th enicer train
13:52 cait       oleonard: i think that one yes
13:53 * cait     tries a git pull
13:55 cait       bbiab
14:00 * mtompset grumbles about javascripts failing.
14:02 druthb     Hi, grumbly mtompset!
14:02 mtompset   A grumbly mtompset is a productive mtompset. :P
14:03 mtompset   Greetings, druthb. :)
14:03 druthb     :)
14:03 * mtompset grumbles some more.
14:04 druthb     If you were working on javascript, and *not* grumbling, I'd be worried.
14:04 mtompset   Okay, I am no javascript expert, but why would one script work and one script not work when the difference is the value being set?!
14:04 druthb     evil magics.
14:05 mtompset   When javascript is involved, maybe.
14:05 mtompset   when javascript?
14:05 mtompset   When javascript?
14:05 oleonard   If the value is the only difference, then the problem is the value?
14:05 druthb     javascript?
14:05 wahanui    javascript is an implementation of INTERCAL on Interstates
14:05 druthb     wahanui:  javascript is also super, super evil.
14:05 wahanui    okay, druthb.
14:05 mtompset   it's an upload plug in for 856$u.
14:06 mtompset   The upload portion works fine in populating the field.
14:06 oleonard   evil?!
14:06 mtompset   The delete portion which is to blank the field doesn't.
14:06 druthb     not just a little evil.  The awesome JS wranglers (like you, oleonard) are the true genius mages.
14:08 mtompset   Ah... okay... debugging idea.
14:08 mtompset   How do I do an annoying popup dialogue box in javascript?
14:08 oleonard   alert("foo");
14:09 oleonard   But use the Firebug (or similar) console for less annoyance and more detail
14:09 tcohen     console.log()
14:09 mtompset   firebug in a popup window?
14:10 oleonard   The firebug console can display debugging information for you without having to use an alert()
14:10 oleonard   console.log("foo"); as tcohen said
14:11 oleonard   That works in any browser that has a decent developer tool built in
14:11 mtompset   okay... back to the debugging.
14:21 mtompset   Nope... that theory is out the window... the value of the parameter is set correctly. I don't get why the field isn't blanking.
14:28 oleonard   mtompset: Do a paste of the code if you'd like more eyes on it
14:28 mtompset   just about to do that. :)
14:28 pastebot   "mtompset" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "My javascript frustration." (23 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/199
14:29 mtompset   And [% index %] is set properly.
14:31 oleonard   You getting an error?
14:33 mtompset   No.
14:33 mtompset   It just doesn't blank the field.
14:34 mtompset   Hmm... there is a jquery.js file not found.
14:34 mtompset   But I think that's a side error, not the cause error.
14:35 oleonard   You can't use jquery if jquery is not found
14:35 mtompset   Hmmm... dollar is not defined?!
14:35 mtompset   Is there a space?!
14:35 oleonard   $ is the jquery object
14:36 mtompset   Okay... that explains why it fails to blank.
14:37 mtompset   BINGO!
14:37 mtompset   I think I found it.
14:38 oleonard   Oh?
14:39 mtompset   It wasn't a side error.
14:39 mtompset   There was wrong jquery.js line in one template, but not the other.
14:39 mtompset   fixed it... solved my problem.
14:40 mtompset   Using [% interface %] not [% themelang %]
14:41 mtompset   oleonard++ # thanks for the eyes.
14:41 gmcharlt   tcohen: what's up?
14:42 mtompset   Saverio Pialli's request is reasonable, but I really dislike what they did to the Koha logo on their page.
14:45 oleonard   I agree, however I don't think that's something we can control
14:49 gmcharlt   well, as a trademark image it would be better if at the very least asked
14:50 gmcharlt   as a data point, that modification of the logo would absolutely not fly in Evergreen-land, and would eventually turn into a matter for the SFC if requests to adhere to Evergreen's TM policy were ignored
14:51 mtompset   Not to mention "Koha by <company name>" implies they wrote it.
14:51 oleonard   ...which is a reason why Koha needs better institutional structure if we want to be able to handle things like that
14:51 gmcharlt   obviously, we're in a different situation here (*sigh*) but I'm willing to make the request
14:51 oleonard   I don't take it that way mtompset, but I suppose some might
14:52 mtompset   "provided by" "via"... or other phrasings are clearer.
14:58 mtompset   SFC?
14:58 mtompset   Scottish Funding Council?
14:58 mtompset   Ah... Software Freedom Conservancy
14:59 oleonard   Although we might try the Scottish Funding Council if the  Software Freedom Conservancy doesn't work out
15:00 mtompset   As long as we don't resort to the System File Checker under Windows. ;)
15:01 mtompset   I'm having difficulty connecting to the SFC's website.
15:01 huginn`    New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 10574 - mute the "upgrading from 3.2" message <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=598a830af0f97aef39bae36265c06a6f8ed73f10>
15:10 mtompset   Welcome back, cait. :)
15:21 mtompset   jcamins: question for you regarding 6874's behaviour, and perhaps a tweak I need to do before submitting my test plan and such... The current functionality prevents uploading the same file twice, even if you choose different sub-directories. Does that make sense?
15:21 reiveune   bye
15:31 mtompset   Well, time for lunch... crazy schedule, here I come! :)
15:31 mtompset   Have a great day, #koha.
15:54 oleonard   javascript?
15:54 wahanui    i think javascript is super, super evil.
15:54 * oleonard is feeling that at the moment
15:55 tcohen     gmcharlt: I managed to write a unit test for "flat cookie array" :-D
15:55 * druthb   comforts oleonard.
15:55 gmcharlt   tcohen++
15:56 oleonard   I know a unit test for a flat cookie array,but when I'm done they're all gone: http://imgur.com/e71MZ7e
15:57 tcohen     heh
15:57 gmcharlt   oleonard++
15:58 gmcharlt   @quote add <oleonard> I know a unit test for a flat cookie array, but when I'm done they're all gone: http://imgur.com/e71MZ7e
15:58 huginn`    gmcharlt: The operation succeeded.  Quote #275 added.
16:03 * cait     waves
16:03 cait       [off] fell asleep on the train in front of the laptop :(
16:04 cait       now i missed the cookies? :)
16:04 cait       tcohen: would you be able to help me mock a cgi object? *wonders* i need to write a unit test for a change to the ils-di  auth
16:04 tcohen     np
16:06 cait       tcohen: hmmm! :)
16:06 cait       tcohen: i might work on it a bit during the weekend, i have the patch with the change and a test plan... just really stuck on how to test it :(
16:06 cait       automated tested :)
16:07 tcohen     i know nothing about ils-di, but can manage to create a proper context for testing a CGI script
16:08 cait       :)
16:21 * druthb   saved a cookie for cait.
16:22 cait       yay!
16:44 * cait     thinks tcohen has fled now
16:55 * cait     lays out a cookie trap
16:55 huginn`    New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 10727: Replace carriage return with when printing hold notices <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=30b32d99381a8296e41e6843c440cd9e3594eb8a> / Bug 10656: (follow-up) handle OPAC sorting of authvals where lib_opac is NULL <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=0c67e94c8b8dbe1912fd5ba4b503cf53789b75a5> / Bug 10656: improve sorting of shelving location and collections
16:57 rambutan   a Malaise trap baited with cookies?  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malaise_trap
16:59 cait       rambutan: mate cookies - for tcohen :)
17:05 oleonard   Oh Olivia Leonard, why don't you know your own email address?
17:06 tcohen     back from lunch
17:14 pastebot   "tcohen" at 172.16.248.213 pasted "cait: a sample CGI parameters set test" (11 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/201
17:17 tcohen     cait1?
17:17 wahanui    i think cait1 is not sure how much they paid :(
17:19 cait1      oh?
17:19 * cait1    has on idea what wahanui is talking about
17:19 cait1      tcohen:  :)
17:19 cait1      tcohen: was just wondering if you saw my link and might have na idea - but have to switch trains soon now
17:19 * cait1    hands tcohen the mate cookie
17:20 tcohen     it will of course depend on what you need on your environment, but it should look like in http://paste.koha-community.org/201
17:21 tcohen     oh, that sample test doesn't pass koha-qa :-(
17:22 tcohen     :-P
17:22 cait1      tcohen: :P
17:22 cait1      it's a draft!
17:24 tcohen     on my UT for the language selection by URL parameter I had to mock the 'C4::Auth::checkauth' method
17:24 cait1      can't load the page, internet too slow :(
17:24 cait1      did you see my pm?
17:24 tcohen     yes, my sample is based on what you sent
17:30 tcohen     #koha: why all { ref($_) eq 'CGI::Cookie' } @cookies
17:30 tcohen     raises: "Can't call method "all" without a package or object reference"
17:31 jcamins    tcohen: use List::MoreUtils qw(all)?
17:31 tcohen     why?
17:32 tcohen     oh, I want to use a class method as a static function...
17:32 tcohen     thanks jcamins!!
18:06 * cait     waves
18:09 cait       tcohen: that looks so easy!
18:09 cait       i will test it right away
18:09 tcohen     :-D
18:10 cait       cross fingers? :)
18:10 tcohen     how can I cast a veriable to a class?
18:10 cait       um
18:10 cait       no idea?
18:10 cait       :(
18:10 tcohen     bless $_, 'CGI::Cookie' ????
18:10 cait       no idea?
18:10 cait       sorry, but i am not sure if I understand the question even
18:10 jcamins    tcohen: what are you trying to do?
18:11 jcamins    That would work, I think, but it scares me.
18:11 tcohen     any { ($_->name eq 'KohaOpacLanguage') and ($_->value eq 'es-ES') } @cookies
18:11 tcohen     looks like I cannot do that on $_
18:12 tcohen     its a CGI::Cookie array
18:12 jcamins    How about $_->{'name'}?
18:13 tcohen     do u like beer jcamins?
18:13 tcohen     i owe u one :-D
18:13 * jcamins  does not, actually.
18:13 jcamins    :D
18:13 tcohen     oh
18:13 jcamins    I can't drink anything with bubbles.
18:13 jcamins    It's really weird.
18:13 jcamins    A friend of mine actually brews bubble-less beer for me.
18:13 tcohen     heh
18:16 * cait     is grateful jcamins showed up
18:19 cait       tcohen: looks promising
18:27 mtompset   Greetings, #koha.
18:27 huginn`    New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 10771: remove disused statistical reports cronjobs <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=ad5d9ca1696dab233ac39fd909f2c1ed7a384bd1>
18:36 oleonard   Dear everyone: If you're posting a screencast, consider resizing your browser to just below "freakin' huge" in case someone wants to watch it in a non-maximized window.
18:37 senator    oleonard++
18:37 senator    pet peeve of mine too
18:39 huginn`    New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 10426: Remove unused sub GetCcodes from Koha.pm <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=26b2bd1fe02012115a5bf9736e8d446f4bc52a9e>
18:41 cait       tcohen++
18:41 cait       got it working!
18:41 tcohen     cait++
18:44 mtompset   karma hug fest!
18:44 wahanui    hug fest! has neutral karma
18:44 mtompset   oleonard++
18:44 mtompset   cait++
18:44 mtompset   tcohen++
18:45 mtompset   oleonard: What screen size would be best? 800x600?
18:46 oleonard   Myself, I choose the smallest size that will most comfortably display the information I'm trying to convey
18:47 mtompset   So even 640x480 would okay sometimes?
18:47 oleonard   Why not?
18:47 * mtompset shrugs, "I don't see a reason why not."
18:47 mtompset   I just know that my 1280x1024 is probably too large for many people.
18:48 jcamins    mtompset: a good rule is to take up as little space as possible and as much space as necessary, and make sure that your page will look good at any resolution, smaller or larger.
18:48 cait       lol - I wondered why hte test kept failing, then noticed, that of course i haven't changed the routine yet :) tests first!
18:55 oleonard   Hi pianohacker
18:56 mtompset   Greetings, pianohacker. :)
18:58 tcohen     hi mtompset
18:58 tcohen     leaving now #koha, have a nice weekend everyone
18:59 oleonard   You too tcohen
18:59 mtompset   Have a good weekend. :)
19:00 mtompset   Better get to the bus stop. Can't afford to be late for my son. :)
19:00 mtompset   Have a great day (24 hour period), #koha. :)
19:03 cait       tcohen++ again :)
19:04 cait       gmcharlt++ too :)
19:06 rambutan   Anybody using Perfect Forward Secrecy on their Koha servers? Anybody see a need for PFS on an ILS server?
19:21 huginn`    Oh no, not this fool again
19:59 oleonard   Bye #koha
23:44 tcohen     hi every1
23:45 jcamins    tcohen: I thought you were out for the weekend?
23:45 tcohen     almost :-D
23:46 tcohen     gotta cook some knishes for granma's birthday tomorrow
23:47 jcamins    :)
23:47 * jcamins  loves knishes.
23:48 * tcohen   too
23:49 tcohen     i've just read in wikipedia that knishes are popular in NYC
23:49 tcohen     "The first knish bakery was founded in New York in 1910"
23:50 jcamins    I didn't realize that they existed outside of the New York area, actually.
23:50 jcamins    Do you bake them or fry them?
23:51 jcamins    BTW, l'shana tovah.
23:51 tcohen     baked
23:51 tcohen     toda rava
23:52 * jcamins  likes fried knishes best.
23:53 jcamins    Not that I ever make them.
23:53 tcohen     never tried actually
23:53 jcamins    Actually, we have a knish restaurant a few blocks away.
23:53 tcohen     i might try to fry some
23:53 jcamins    http://knishnosh.com/
23:53 * tcohen   just remembered he got invited to jcamins' if he's around in NYC
23:54 jcamins    Indeed you did. You just have to make it to NYC, and you get a nice dinner. :)
23:54 tcohen     :)
23:54 tcohen     this time its reno, i'm getting closer
23:54 jcamins    :)
23:54 jcamins    Mmm. Rugelach.
23:55 jcamins    I should have planned ahead and made challah.
23:55 tcohen     :-D
23:56 tcohen     gotta run before the shop closes
23:56 tcohen     bye jcamins!
23:56 jcamins    So long.
23:56 jcamins    Enjoy your knish.
23:59 jcamins    *knishs
23:59 jcamins    I always forget that knish as a Yiddish word has -s for the plural.