Time  Nick           Message
23:57 dcook          Mmm chow
23:57 rambutan       time to go forage for chow
23:09 tcohen         :-D
23:06 wizzyrea       no, debate about a pending patch.
23:06 tcohen         cait: problems with serials in production?
22:40 cait           bye all
22:40 cait           but not tonight :)
22:40 cait           maybe i just have to try again
22:31 cait           to discuss
22:31 cait           probably wrong place wrong time
22:27 wizzyrea       fair enough.
22:25 cait           and i want to know how the inner counter field works in the table where we used to have rollover
22:25 cait           things like that
22:25 cait           currently it#s not possible to set up a seasonal pattern in german
22:25 cait           but the locale needs work I think
22:24 cait           i thik gmcharlt said he would take a look
22:24 wizzyrea       I would like to see some proof that it doesn't actually mess up existing subscriptions
22:23 wizzyrea       *unless* it broke existing subs. That would be a problem.
22:23 wizzyrea       so do we - but I think this would probably be an improvement for them.
22:22 cait           we have libraries using serials in production
22:22 cait           wizzyrea: so that is quite confusing, i think there are things out of order here that at least need documentation and more testing
22:22 cait           wizzyrea: and it worked, now it doesn't for me :(
22:21 cait           wizzyrea: well i could
22:21 cait           cjh: it'all ok
22:21 cait           lol
22:21 cjh            I had a nightmare last night where I came on irc and everyone was asking me why I missed a release.
22:21 wizzyrea       I could never explain what the inner counter did. Ever.
22:21 cait           and can you explain what the inner counter line in the small table does?
22:20 cait           i feel like things have been shuffled around here
22:20 cait           and the inner counter was only in the advanced pattern
22:20 cait           there was begins with and rollover
22:20 cait           where now is inner counter in the above table
22:20 cait           we had
22:17 wizzyrea       that I recall
22:17 wizzyrea       we didn't ever have this "begins with" before
22:16 wizzyrea       clearly you feel it should not display issues past the end date
22:16 wizzyrea       it's not bible truth - it's showing you 12 issues from when you start, and not bothering with the end date.
22:16 wizzyrea       because I think this display is only an example
22:15 wizzyrea       does it stop you from receiving more when you get to number 5 in the next year
22:15 wizzyrea       so the real question is
22:15 wizzyrea       I think perhaps the prediction pattern display is not smart enough to honor the end date
22:14 cait           no matter what i put in there
22:14 cait           and the inner counter on the first table never had any effect in my testing
22:14 wizzyrea       it's calculating 12 issues, which we told it to
22:14 cait           although you said subscription end date was december
22:14 cait           it goes into march
22:13 cait           try with 7 issues
22:13 wizzyrea       that pattern doesn't look right?
22:13 cait           i thik we might disagree on this then
22:12 wizzyrea       using the settings I have given it
22:12 wizzyrea       but that prediction pattern looks correct for me
22:12 cait           begins with was when the numbering starts, add 1 to that, ever 1 issue, set back to 1, when more than 12, the current inner counter (where we are) is 4
22:11 cait           hm for me not
22:11 wizzyrea       this seems to work the way you expect it to.
22:11 wizzyrea       that's how it used to work, which I never actually understood
22:11 cait           i think it should be begins with 1 inner counter 4
22:11 wizzyrea       as in the screenshot
22:11 cait           hm
22:11 wizzyrea       then it rolls over when it gets to number 12
22:11 wizzyrea       you open up advanced, and remove 99999, and put in 12 for "when more than"
22:10 wizzyrea       it's just a different method
22:10 cait           hm?
22:10 wizzyrea       this doesn't preclude that
22:10 cait           with receiving serials
22:10 cait           you can start middle of the ear
22:10 wizzyrea       http://img199.imageshack.us/img199/8897/gqz4.png
22:10 cait           hm you don#t have now i think
22:09 wizzyrea       ah you have to do advanced prediction for that
22:09 cait           it should rollover at 12 yes
22:09 wizzyrea       well we told it only 12 issues
22:09 cait           wizzyrea: hm i would like to see the next year
22:08 wizzyrea       unless you meant it to roll over at 12?
22:07 wizzyrea       guess I'm not seeing what's funny there?
22:07 wizzyrea       nz dates of course - keep that in mind.
22:07 wizzyrea       http://img94.imageshack.us/img94/2459/qbf3.png
22:06 wizzyrea       is alright - gonna show you what I see
22:05 cait           had to reset the database to do qa ;)
22:05 cait           i don't have the installation any longer
22:05 * wizzyrea     knows it's late-ish for you
22:04 wizzyrea       number pattern = number?
22:04 wizzyrea       number begins with 4?
22:04 wahanui        december is ok .. some years
22:04 cait           december
22:04 cait           I tried what i normally do when i show serials to libraries
22:04 wizzyrea       or next year?
22:04 wizzyrea       no end date?
22:03 cait           i think
22:03 cait           no january, but issue 4
22:03 cait           with number 4
22:03 wizzyrea       sub start date = april 1?
22:03 cait           but starting to receive in april this year, not starting in january
22:03 cait           12
22:02 wizzyrea       how many issues?
22:01 cait           well, not the first issue, but a later one
22:01 cait           i wanted to set up a serial subscription for monthly, starting with the april issue for that year
22:00 wizzyrea       ok well where did you get stuck?
22:00 wizzyrea       hm
22:00 cait           and i train people in serials currently :(
21:59 cait           maybe you can show me how to do it, because i have no idea.
21:59 wizzyrea       that is not librarian friendly
21:58 wizzyrea       oh locale, well yes
21:58 cait           no, they are even noted in the commit messages
21:58 wizzyrea       the followups didn't catch those?
21:58 cait           and the use of locale is ... not librarian friendly?
21:58 cait           and there is some translation issues
21:58 wizzyrea       yep - hm i didn't have any trouble
21:58 cait           i was not able to set up a subscription pattern and i really tried.
21:57 cait           have you tested it?
21:57 cait           wizzyrea: there are some things about that that really worry me
21:53 wizzyrea       my only real reservation is how does it interact with existing subscriptions
21:52 wizzyrea       people might *actually* be able to use the predictions in a sane fashion
21:51 rangi          it's passed qa, so it stands a chance
21:51 huginn`        04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7688 enhancement, P3, ---, julian.maurice, Passed QA , Change subscriptions numbering pattern and frequencies
21:51 rangi          bug 7688
21:51 wizzyrea       I'd like to see 7688 get in it's quite an improvement.
21:50 huginn`        04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8956 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Signed Off , Split serials enumeration data into separate fields
21:50 rangi          bug 8956
21:50 rangi          rambutan: you cant protect people from being unable to do research im afraid :(
21:50 rambutan       yea! I saw that!
21:50 wizzyrea       YUSS
21:50 wizzyrea       \o/
21:50 rangi          http://www.zdnet.com/new-zealand-bans-software-patents-7000019955/
21:50 rangi          in good news
21:49 rambutan       Note reference to "LibLime Koha" in July/August issue of "Computers in Libraries", article "Going to the Cloud...." by Carson, Botter, Krujelskis
21:34 huginn`        04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10565 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Failed QA , Add a "Patron List" feature for storing and manipulating collections of patrons
21:34 wizzyrea       well when you are - bug 10565 - which I love, has a bug in it. :(
21:29 wizzyrea       khall - about?
20:15 cait           mtompset: i tihnk adding one might make sense - as a note if you want to install other than english sample data
20:12 mtompset       Bye, oleonard.
20:12 oleonard       See y'all later #koha
20:12 mtompset       So a link to the installing additionally languages would be in the installation instructions?
20:10 druthb         yet.
20:09 mtompset       Well, at least druthb has some self-control left. No wiffle-bat use yet.
20:09 * druthb       acts all innocent and stuff.
20:08 wahanui        Well, she finally snapped, like we all knew she would.
20:08 druthb         druthb?
20:07 wahanui        mtompset: what?
20:07 mtompset       Seriously, wahanui?
20:06 mtompset       druthb!
20:05 oleonard       Ebert would let more things slide as long as he liked the overall outcome.
20:05 mtompset       Or would these be new levels?
20:05 mtompset       ^Siskle^Siskel^
20:05 mtompset       oleonard: Would Ebert and Siskle map to -1 and -5, or something similar?
20:04 oleonard       I think you heard me wahanui!
20:03 wahanui        oleonard: excuse me?
20:03 pianohacker    hahahahaha, _that's_ where crunchbang codenames come from!
20:03 oleonard       wahanui spreads all kinds of rumors
20:03 druthb         :P
20:03 mtompset       HEY!
20:03 wahanui        rumour has it mtompset is causing trouble
20:03 druthb         mtompset!
20:03 huginn`        mtompset: Quote #181: "*oleonard imagines perlcritic level Ebert and perlcritic level Siskel *jcamins imagines perlcritic levels Statler and Waldorf." (added by wizzyrea at 05:52 PM, January 13, 2012)
20:03 mtompset       @quote random
20:03 druthb         It also does it if you say "<name>!" sometimes.
20:02 pianohacker    if it were any smarter, it wouldn't be half as funny
20:02 pianohacker    oh heavens no
20:02 druthb         :P  Didn't say it was a *smart* bot.
20:01 mtompset       Well, that was really bad timing in that instance.
20:01 druthb         sometimes it does that.
20:01 mtompset       Why does wahanui respond to "hey <insert person's name>" as if "<insert persons name>?" was typed.
20:00 mtompset       Why does wahanui respond to "hey <insert person's name>" as if "<insert persons name>"
20:00 wahanui        mtompset: I forgot mtompset
20:00 mtompset       wahanui: forget mtompset
19:59 cait           if you dump an old database oyu already are past the sample data installing
19:59 * pianohacker  walks off in a huff
19:59 pianohacker    that's totally out of line
19:59 cait           so what was the question drojf wouldn't answer?
19:59 wahanui        i think mtompset is paid on a donation basis to work on Koha things.
19:59 pianohacker    wtf mtompset
19:59 drojf          pianohacker: don't listen to mtompset, he is only going to hurt your feelings
19:59 cait           mtompset: see you get another one to try
19:59 wahanui        it has been said that mtompset is paid on a donation basis to work on Koha things.
19:59 pianohacker    hey mtompset
19:58 mtompset       Greetings, pianohacker. :)
19:58 mtompset       Am I hurting everyone's feelings today?
19:58 mtompset       Oh great.
19:58 drojf          so i finally go for a walkolate :P
19:58 * druthb       gives cait a spare wiffle-bat.
19:57 oleonard       Heh.
19:57 drojf          i won't tell you because you will ask cait
19:57 mtompset       Well, you can add languages after.
19:57 drojf          :P
19:57 drojf          or you could have just believed me
19:57 mtompset       What about the case of an older non-English database dumped before the web install step?
19:56 druthb         hmpf
19:56 cait           hmpf
19:56 mtompset       See. We need your awesomeness. ;)
19:55 cait           mtompset: nope you can't do it after if you want to use translated sample data
19:55 mtompset       If you look at the wiki link I gave, it seems like 3.12 has some vastly improved language scripts.
19:54 mtompset       Though, I do think you can do it after.
19:54 mtompset       before the web installation.
19:53 drojf          because you need to install your base language before the actual installation
19:52 drojf          for language installation i mean
19:52 drojf          there is an example on the debian package installation wiki page
19:52 huginn`        druthb: The current temperature in Greenway Plaza, Houston, Texas is 33.3°C (2:52 PM CDT on August 28, 2013). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 42%. Dew Point: 19.0°C. Pressure: 30.03 in 1017 hPa (Steady).
19:52 druthb         @wunder 77098
19:51 mtompset       http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Installation_of_additional_languages_for_OPAC_and_INTRANET_staff_client
19:50 drojf          no jacket it is
19:50 mtompset       Right... if you install from scratch you only get english.
19:50 huginn`        drojf: The current temperature in Prenzlauer Berg, Berlin, Germany is 19.7°C (9:43 PM CEST on August 28, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 46%. Dew Point: 8.0°C. Pressure: 30.09 in 1019 hPa (Steady).
19:50 drojf          @wunder berlin, germany
19:50 cait           i know wahanui has it somewhere
19:50 cait           hm add additional languages?
19:50 cait           additional languages?
19:50 cait           mtompset: installing languages has its own page - I think linking to that shoudl work
19:48 druthb         you're right about that, fair 'nuf, mtompset.
19:47 mtompset       On another note, should the install instructions include information about installing other languages? what about importing MARC records?
19:45 * mtompset     looks at druthb, "Am I not right about needing her awesome QA powers?"
19:44 cait           hmm
19:43 mtompset       But seriously, you probably should QA. We need your expertise in that regard. :)
19:43 * druthb       wields wiffle-bat
19:43 cait           true!
19:43 cait           hehe
19:43 druthb         double-whammy.  you're outnumbered.  no one messes with teh cait!
19:43 mtompset       Wow. All these women looking at me. :P
19:43 * druthb       glares at mtompset, too
19:43 * cait         glares at mtompset
19:42 cait           ey!
19:42 cait           dinner made me lazy :)
19:42 * mtompset     gives cait a big push. :P
19:42 cait           hm bit more
19:42 * druthb       pushes cait gently
19:41 * cait         might need a little push to start qaing
19:33 * oleonard     wags his finger at Bug 6594 for waking him up
19:32 huginn`        04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6594 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Add schema.org microdata
19:32 jenkins_koha   Galen Charlton: Bug 6594: (follow-up) remove TT directive embedded in tag
19:32 jenkins_koha   Project Koha_master build #1394: FIXED in 1 hr 16 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/1394/
19:32 jenkins_koha   Yippie, build fixed!
19:31 cait           heh
19:31 druthb         :)
19:31 * drojf        contemplates a walk. involving a purchase of chocolate. i shall call it a walkolate.
19:30 * druthb       huggles cait.
19:30 drojf          "this post is for backers only" :P
19:29 cait           meh.
19:29 cait           intended
19:29 cait           hm
19:29 cait           drojf: i am sure it was not attended to appear like that
19:28 druthb         :P
19:28 drojf          planning even
19:28 * drojf        chucks a kohacon planninh gag order at druthb
19:27 * druthb       chucks skittles at drojf.
19:27 drojf          oh. closed source conference. well.
19:27 cait           i think
19:27 cait           nancy sent a mail to those who are registered
19:26 cait           where are all the koha librarians?
19:26 drojf          where do you see these things?
19:26 cait           95 registrations is awesome - but because there are so many koha libraries in the us i had hoped for a bit more? :)
19:26 cait           i am a bit surprised not more libraries are attending so far
19:25 druthb         I want to take some video and pics for the website, anyway, so maybe I could use those, make some flyers.
19:25 cait           illustrating how they are done :)
19:25 cait           maybe bring some photos?
19:24 druthb         The lathe is a leeetle bit heavy to haul.
19:24 druthb         I will be bringing what I have on hand, but won't be doing demos, probably.
19:22 cait           lol
19:21 * druthb       looks at the list of Trail Bosses for KohaCon, and whistles innocently.  A non-library-centric business sponsoring a library geek con?  What's next?  Successful installs on Windows!  Dogs and cats cohabiting! It's a MADHOUSE!  A MADHOUSE!
19:11 mtompset       How did you know #4? ;)
19:11 cait           and make my queue explode again?
19:11 bag            3) drink more coffee
19:11 cait           sign off patches :)
19:11 oleonard       JDatTeTakere: Ideas: 1) Waste time on the internet. 2) Uh...
19:11 cait           :)
19:10 JDatTeTakere   I'm grateful though for the meeting forcing me to get out of bed early.  I have an extra hour up my sleeve now.
19:10 * cait         hands oleonard cookies
19:09 oleonard       Of all the things to be broken in IE, I didn't expect it to be adding items to the Cart.
19:08 oleonard       We mostly discussed how our chairperson got disconnected
19:07 rambutan       ic ic
19:07 oleonard       There wasn't any rambutan, our chairperson got disconnected
19:07 rambutan       I was here sorta, but somehow missed the discussion
19:06 talljoy        indeed.
19:05 rambutan       so the meeting seems to be over and out?
19:04 wahanui        well, nancyk is a slooow typer so please be patient
19:04 mtompset       nancyk?
19:04 wahanui        rumour has it oleonard is not really here.  He said so.  He did
19:04 mtompset       oleonard?
19:04 wahanui        Well, she finally snapped, like we all knew she would.
19:04 bag            druthb?
19:03 wahanui        I LIKE BASEBALL
19:03 druthb         bag?
19:01 bag            awesome
19:01 wahanui        I LIKE SPACE AND MY WIFE
19:01 bag            NateC?
19:00 * druthb       ain't sayin' nuffin'.
19:00 bag            I change my nick to NateC sometimes and leave funny @laters :P
18:59 druthb         bag is sneaky.
18:59 oleonard       Sneaky.
18:59 huginn`        Log:            http://meetings.koha-community.org/2013/kohacon_13_planning_august_meeting.2013-08-28-18.08.log.html
18:59 huginn`        Minutes (text): http://meetings.koha-community.org/2013/kohacon_13_planning_august_meeting.2013-08-28-18.08.txt
18:59 huginn`        Minutes:        http://meetings.koha-community.org/2013/kohacon_13_planning_august_meeting.2013-08-28-18.08.html
18:59 huginn`        Meeting ended Wed Aug 28 18:59:32 2013 UTC.  Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4)
18:59 nancyk         #endmeeting
18:59 bag            #endmeeting
18:59 oleonard       #endmeeting?
18:58 bag            heh
18:58 bag            #end
18:58 wahanui        the command is probably missing there, but it's a misc/migration_tools/rebuild-zebra.pl -b -r -v
18:58 bag            what's the command?
18:57 mtompset       wouldn't bag chris_n gmcharlt jcamins rangi or wizzyrea be able to end the meeting, if nancyk can't come back?
18:56 druthb         lol
18:56 phred_         Wait! What's this trap door in the floor? AAAAAAAHHHHHHHH!
18:51 oleonard       We're trapped in a meeting! Help!
18:40 * cait         wonder if we should end the meeting somehow
18:40 cait           #endmeeting
18:39 * oleonard     will be back
18:39 Lee_in_Butte   back to learning about VPNs...woo hoo--- see you all soon
18:38 colin_in_butte hi oleonard
18:38 colin_in_butte hi cait
18:38 cait           hi colin_in_butte
18:37 colin_in_butte waves hello
18:37 cait           :D
18:37 Lee_in_Butte   Well then I best sign up so we can hang out!
18:37 colin_in_butte yes it works best as an app. you can download it here: https://www.eventbase.com/download then seach for kohacon13-reno in the app's search box.
18:36 cait           yep then
18:36 * oleonard     waves to colin_in_butte
18:36 Lee_in_Butte   <cait> yes Tahoe
18:35 Lee_in_Butte   Hi ya Colin!! new guy on the IRC everyone wave.
18:35 Lee_in_Butte   We will continue to update it so when you arrive you will have everything you need on your phones
18:35 cait           Lee_in_Butte: the trip to lake tahoe?
18:34 JDatTeTakere   The app looks great. I'm looking forward to my first KohaCon
18:34 wahanui        i guess road trip is fine too ;)
18:34 cait           road trip?
18:34 Lee_in_Butte   Excellent- are you doing the road trip?
18:34 cait           yes :)
18:32 Lee_in_Butte   cait are you coming?
18:32 Lee_in_Butte   okay kiddos...lets try this again at a later date. Looking forward to seeing everyone in Reno
18:32 oleonard       Same here in Ohio
18:32 phred_         Hot and muggy in DC. Summer is having its last gasp.
18:32 colin_in_butte here is a link to the schedule in eventspace http://www.eventbase.com/event/eventbase/kohacon13-reno
18:31 cait           JDatTeTakere: should get warmer soon :) getting cold here already
18:31 JDatTeTakere   Coffee sounds like fun for this early bird.  It's freezing this morning!!
18:31 Lee_in_Butte   kaboom indeed
18:30 cait           JDatTeTakere: make the best of it and do something fun :)
18:30 JDatTeTakere   In that case, I think I'll wander off and make coffee. Very early.
18:29 mtompset       Lee_in_Butte: http://youtu.be/Ot73XFXagMw (Where's the kaboom...)
18:29 bag            heya Lee_in_Butte
18:29 Lee_in_Butte   aww too bad
18:29 Lee_in_Butte   its called Eventbase if want something to do while we wait
18:29 bag            she's going to send an email out cause she can't connect back in
18:28 bag            "problems with our new county proxy server"
18:28 Lee_in_Butte   downloadable to your smart phone
18:28 bag            I just got an email from nancy
18:28 Lee_in_Butte   We are working on a mobile conference app that has the schedule and speakers on it
18:28 cait           :)
18:27 cait           we don't know yet
18:27 Lee_in_Butte   anything earth shattering happening?
18:26 cait           trains.
18:26 cait           has happened to me a lot of times... trians.
18:26 mtompset       DOH! That would be bad (tm).
18:26 Lee_in_Butte   I can email her....
18:26 Lee_in_Butte   LOL
18:25 * oleonard     hopes nancyk isn't chatting into a disconnected IRC client and wondering why we're so quiet
18:25 Lee_in_Butte   sorry i am late
18:25 Lee_in_Butte   ahhh
18:25 Lee_in_Butte   hmmm. bad connection?
18:25 mtompset       She was saying that they were having proxy server issues.
18:25 Lee_in_Butte   hey Owen
18:25 cait           we lost nancy a little while ago
18:24 cait           hi Lee_in_Butte
18:24 mtompset       oleonard++
18:21 phred_         Phred offers PG Tips. It's not Mountain Dew, beloved by programmers everywhere, but it's pretty good. :-)
18:19 cait           bag: that's not lunch food, you know ... :)
18:19 talljoy        lol
18:18 bag            chocolate covered pretzels sounds better :)
18:18 * cait         can offer a mixed green salad
18:18 * talljoy      passes the ramen to bag
18:18 bag            well I had my mind set on some lunch so I think I will sneak out and grab some - back in a few
18:18 talljoy        hi cait
18:17 cait           bga :)
18:17 bag            :P
18:17 bag            cait
18:17 bag            heya ciat
18:17 * cait         waves to bag
18:16 jenkins_koha   Starting build #1394 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #1391 4 hr 30 min ago)
18:15 huginn`        04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7257 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Stable , Add a link to remove an individual title from a list
18:15 huginn`        04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5652 normal, P5 - low, ---, veron, Pushed to Stable , Patron checkout and holds summary should show subtitles
18:15 jenkins_koha   * Owen Leonard: Bug 7257: Add a link to remove an individual title from a list in the OPAC
18:15 jenkins_koha   * Galen Charlton: Bug 5652: (follow-up) include subtitle in hyperlink
18:15 jenkins_koha   * Marc Veron: Bug 5652: display subtitles on patron checkout and holds summary
18:15 jenkins_koha   Project Koha_3.12.x build #87: SUCCESS in 39 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.12.x/87/
18:15 edveal         looks that way
18:15 bag            so I don't think anyone else has agenda items - we wait for nancy to come back
18:15 bag            well we lost Nancy
18:12 cait           #info Katrin Fischer, BSZ Germany
18:11 JDatTeTakere   #info JD (Joanne Dillon) at Te Takere, Levin NZ
18:11 talljoy        #info Joy Nelson ByWater
18:11 edveal         #info Ed Veal ByWater
18:10 nancyk         #topic conferenc prep progress
18:10 nancyk         #I'm going to report on the conferenc prep progress
18:09 JDatTeTakere   Morning from NZ
18:09 nancyk         proxy server problems
18:09 bag            hello
18:09 nancyk         #info NancyK chair
18:08 huginn`        The meeting name has been set to 'kohacon_13_planning_august_meeting'
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18:08 huginn`        Meeting started Wed Aug 28 18:08:44 2013 UTC.  The chair is nancyk. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.
18:08 nancyk         #startmeeting KohaCon 13 Planning August Meeting
18:08 huginn`        mtompset: The current temperature in Schomberg, Ontario is 34.9°C (2:08 PM EDT on August 28, 2013). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 54%. Dew Point: 24.0°C. Pressure: 29.89 in 1012 hPa (Steady).
18:08 mtompset       @wunder l7e 5y5
18:08 huginn`        mtompset: Error: No such location could be found.
18:08 mtompset       @wunder bolton, ontario, canada
18:08 huginn`        mtompset: Error: No such location could be found.
18:08 mtompset       @wunder bolton, canada
17:52 huginn`        tcohen: The current temperature in Cordoba, Argentina is 30.0°C (2:00 PM ART on August 28, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 12%. Dew Point: -3.0°C. Pressure: 30.12 in 1020 hPa (Falling).
17:52 tcohen         @wunder cordoba, argentina
17:46 * mtompset     grins, "I must be in a really secret place."
17:46 huginn`        mtompset: Error: No such location could be found.
17:46 mtompset       @wunder bolton
17:39 cait           oh good, i am back :)
17:39 huginn`        cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 17.9°C (7:35 PM CEST on August 28, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 78%. Dew Point: 14.0°C. Pressure: 30.09 in 1019 hPa (Steady).
17:39 cait           @wunder Konstanz
17:36 jenkins_koha   Starting build #87 for job Koha_3.12.x (previous build: SUCCESS)
17:36 huginn`        04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9782 trivial, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Cancel button doesn't work when importing MARC bibliographic frameworks
17:36 huginn`        04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10699 normal, P5 - low, ---, kenza.zaki, Pushed to Master , DeleteBranchTransferLimits in C4/Circulation.pm needs return value
17:36 huginn`        04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10693 normal, P5 - low, ---, kenza.zaki, Pushed to Master , CreateBranchTransferLimit's return values in C4::Circulation.pm should be more explicit
17:36 huginn`        04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10692 normal, P5 - low, ---, kenza.zaki, Pushed to Master , UT: Routines about transfers in C4::Circulation.pm need unit tests
17:36 jenkins_koha   * Owen Leonard: Bug 9782: hide cancel button when importing MARC bibliographic frameworks
17:36 jenkins_koha   * Galen Charlton: Bug 10699: (follow-up) fix parameter test in DeleteBranchTransferLimits()
17:36 jenkins_koha   * Kenza Zaki: Bug 10699: add explicit return value for DeleteBranchTransferLimits()
17:36 jenkins_koha   * Galen Charlton: Bug 10693: (follow-up) fix parameter checking in CreateBranchTransferLimit()
17:36 huginn`        04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10566 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Improve OPAC course reserves pages
17:36 jenkins_koha   * Kenza Zaki: Bug 10693: CreateBranchTransferLimit's return value in C4::Circulation.pm should be more explicit
17:36 jenkins_koha   * Kenza Zaki: Bug 10692: add unit tests for C4::Circulation routines about transfers
17:36 jenkins_koha   * Galen Charlton: Bug 10566: (follow-up) fix HTML validation issues
17:36 jenkins_koha   * Owen Leonard: Bug 10566 - Improve OPAC course reserves pages
17:36 jenkins_koha   Project Koha_master build #1393: STILL UNSTABLE in 1 hr 16 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/1393/
17:32 mtompset       mental note: don't use self checkout!
17:26 mtompset       oh wait... found a way to trigger it in firefox.
17:23 mtompset       ie-- # seriously?! Firefox forces a data resend to not get the bug, and you don't?!
17:23 mtompset       ie-- # really hate your handling of CSS and visual display.
17:20 huginn`        04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6594 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Add schema.org microdata
17:20 jenkins_koha   Galen Charlton: Bug 6594: (follow-up) remove TT directive embedded in tag
17:20 jenkins_koha   Project master_maria build #73: FIXED in 37 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/master_maria/73/
17:20 jenkins_koha   Yippie, build fixed!
17:17 cait1          hm and my internet connection at home is broken :(
17:16 mtompset       oh, compatibility view needed.
17:16 cait1          oleonard: my coworker notice some weirdness with the datepicker on specific due date today, but it was not in all installations - probably totally unrelated, but maybe it makes you feel less alone :)
17:15 mtompset       http://catalog.bywatersolutions.com/ has the same ugliness to it... with the downward shifting like steps of boxes.
17:15 mtompset       It's IE.
17:15 mtompset       Ewwww!
17:14 mtompset       Hmmm... I wonder if it is my CSS... need to find another site.
17:13 mtompset       YUCK! IE 10 displays opac ugly.
17:12 gmcharlt       correct -- both from reserve/request.pl and members/moremember.pl
17:12 oleonard       gmcharlt: So it saved a valid date for you?
17:11 gmcharlt       oleonard: works for me (hold suspension)
17:05 oleonard       responsive.mykoha.co.nz isn't my site, but I'm pretty sure it's running master
17:04 mtompset       what version of Koha was your demo site, oleonard?
17:03 mtompset       No good deed goes unpunished, right? :P
17:03 cait           mtompset: you shoudl file those
17:01 mtompset       go to site, click self checkout link, sign in member, click finish, modify address in address bar to be OPACBaseURL, now OPAC is logged in?!
16:57 mtompset       okay... I think I better stop playing with self checkout. I keep finding things I don't like.
16:55 oleonard       ...so all I saw was the single field
16:54 oleonard       mtompset: Yes I don't think I was testing that self checkout configuration before.
16:54 mtompset       Oh, another thing I noticed was username and password are not level in the self-checkout link, oleonard.
16:53 oleonard       When I try it the date is saved as 0000-00-00 00:00:00
16:53 oleonard       Can someone do me a quick sanity check and see if you can suspend a hold until a specific date in the staff client?
16:46 gmcharlt       no worries -- I think that some tests in xt, including tt_valid.t, ought to be moved to t anyway
16:46 huginn`        New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 6594: (follow-up) remove TT directive embedded in tag <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=4677fa9bd253c4b8a036d52eec4f21e1fbba7301>
16:45 * dbs          apologizes, learns about xt/ in addition to t/
16:44 gmcharlt       no big deal; I've pushed a follow-up to unembed it
16:44 gmcharlt       dbs: no, your patch was indeed the culprit -- prior to your patch, the bit to add the highlight class was not embedded inside the tag
16:42 jenkins_koha   Starting build #73 for job master_maria (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #69 2 hr 45 min ago)
16:41 dbs            Maybe the test only complains if the matching [% END %] is not right before the >? /me needs to look at the test now
16:36 gmcharlt       easily remedied
16:36 * gmcharlt     prepares to push a follow-up
16:36 jcamins        Why the test is only catching it now I am not sure.
16:36 jcamins        The problem is the [% IF ... %] inside the <tr> tag.
16:35 * dbs          goes to dig further
16:35 huginn`        04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9782 trivial, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Cancel button doesn't work when importing MARC bibliographic frameworks
16:35 huginn`        04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10699 normal, P5 - low, ---, kenza.zaki, Pushed to Master , DeleteBranchTransferLimits in C4/Circulation.pm needs return value
16:35 huginn`        04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10693 normal, P5 - low, ---, kenza.zaki, Pushed to Master , CreateBranchTransferLimit's return values in C4::Circulation.pm should be more explicit
16:35 jenkins_koha   * Owen Leonard: Bug 9782: hide cancel button when importing MARC bibliographic frameworks
16:35 jenkins_koha   * Galen Charlton: Bug 10699: (follow-up) fix parameter test in DeleteBranchTransferLimits()
16:35 jenkins_koha   * Kenza Zaki: Bug 10699: add explicit return value for DeleteBranchTransferLimits()
16:35 jenkins_koha   * Galen Charlton: Bug 10693: (follow-up) fix parameter checking in CreateBranchTransferLimit()
16:35 jenkins_koha   * Kenza Zaki: Bug 10693: CreateBranchTransferLimit's return value in C4::Circulation.pm should be more explicit
16:35 jenkins_koha   Project master_maria build #72: STILL UNSTABLE in 37 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/master_maria/72/
16:34 dbs            Oh, hmm.
16:32 jcamins        The complaint is about a line from your patch, but the IF isn't related to the microdata.
16:31 jcamins        Wait... that's odd.
16:30 jcamins        Ugh. Looks like I missed that test when I was signing off.
16:28 dbs            from checking the jenkins console log, I'm pretty sure that the instability in the last build is Serials.pm related and not related to my schema.org commits. although it would be funny/sad if my first contribution ended up breaking the build.
16:22 gaetan_B       bye !
16:20 jenkins_koha   Starting build #1393 for job Koha_master (previous build: UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #1391 2 hr 33 min ago)
16:19 oleonard       http://irc.koha-community.org/koha/2013-08-27#i_1373039
16:19 oleonard       gmcharlt: I was talking to jcamins and cait yesterday about grunt.js and wished you were there to comment
16:18 kf             gmcharlt++
16:18 kf             ok, later all :)
16:18 huginn`        04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10710 normal, P5 - low, ---, kenza.zaki, Pushed to Master , UT : OfflineOperation's routines in C4/Circulation.t need unit tests.
16:18 huginn`        04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10767 normal, P5 - low, ---, kenza.zaki, Pushed to Master , UT: Routines which interact with the table issuingrules in C4/Circulation need unit test
16:18 jenkins_koha   * Galen Charlton: Bug 10710: (follow-up) perltidy new code
16:18 jenkins_koha   * Kenza Zaki: Bug 10710: add unit tests for OfflineOperation's routines in C4/Circulation.pm
16:18 huginn`        04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10629 normal, P5 - low, ---, kenza.zaki, Pushed to Master , Inappropriate uses of $sth->finish() in C4::Branch.pm
16:18 huginn`        04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10508 normal, P5 - low, ---, kenza.zaki, Pushed to Master , UT: C4::Branch.pm needs unit tests
16:18 jenkins_koha   * Galen Charlton: Bug 10767: (follow-up) remove FIXME comments
16:18 jenkins_koha   * Kenza Zaki: Bug 10767: add unit tests for C4::Circulation routines that use issuingrules
16:18 huginn`        04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10690 trivial, P5 - low, ---, magnus, Pushed to Master , Warn about trailing slashes in description of OPACBaseURL and staffClientBaseURL
16:18 huginn`        04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10130 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, campbellreidtait, Pushed to Master , Input fields for branch configuration are too short
16:18 jenkins_koha   * Kenza Zaki: Bug 10629: remove inappropriate uses of $sth->finish() in C4::Branch
16:18 jenkins_koha   * Galen Charlton: Bug 10508: (follow-up) remove Perl 5.14 construct
16:18 jenkins_koha   * Chris Cormack: Bug 10508: (follow-up) fix a typo
16:18 huginn`        04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6594 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Add schema.org microdata
16:18 jenkins_koha   * Kenza Zaki: Bug 10508: add unit tests for C4::Branch
16:18 jenkins_koha   * Magnus Enger: Bug 10690 - Warn about trailing slashes in description of OPACBaseURL and staffClientBaseURL
16:18 huginn`        04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10587 minor, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , HTML errors on authority detail page in OPAC
16:18 jenkins_koha   * Owen Leonard: Bug 10130: widen input fields for library configuration
16:18 jenkins_koha   * Dan Scott: Bug 6594: Schema.org span nesting improvements
16:18 jenkins_koha   * Dan Scott: Bug 6594: Correct schema.org context for item status
16:18 jenkins_koha   * Dan Scott: Bug 6594: Move subject keywords schema.org markup into <span> element
16:18 jenkins_koha   * Dan Scott: Bug 6594: Schema.org structured data for OPAC display
16:18 jenkins_koha   * Owen Leonard: Bug 10587: fix HTML errors on authority detail page in OPAC
16:18 jenkins_koha   Project Koha_master build #1392: UNSTABLE in 1 hr 15 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/1392/
16:17 * kf           should annoucne that
16:17 kf             i guess since we are not having the qa team meeting today, we are going to have it on 3rd
16:17 kf             hm that's true
16:17 jcamins        kf: we've never been able to count before, so why should we start worrying now?
16:17 kf             hm i mistypo smileys today, that's worrying
16:16 kf             should we worry that we can not count?
16:16 kf             maybe that makes up for the missing one? :(
16:15 gmcharlt       we also currently have two "202nd" developers
16:15 gmcharlt       heh
16:15 kf             oleonard: i am working on your update to datatables for staff right now - hope to finish tonight :)
16:15 * kf           took revenge and filed a couple of new bugs today
16:15 kf             you people fill up my queue all the time!
16:15 * oleonard     actually really likes that idea
16:15 kf             now i have to get home and do qa :)
16:15 kf             oleonard: lol :)
16:15 kf             maybe we added with a typo?
16:14 oleonard       kf keeps having to buy new Koha team jerseys with a different number on it
16:14 gmcharlt       :)
16:14 kf             i think it changed twice
16:14 kf             at least this time i get to keep my number )
16:14 gmcharlt       yep, we'll do so again
16:14 kf             but i would have thought he was there.
16:14 kf             we did renumber in the past
16:14 kf             oh.
16:13 gmcharlt       Srikanth Dhondi
16:12 jcamins        Who was it?
16:12 jcamins        Oops!
16:12 gmcharlt       ouch -- I've just discovered that we forgot to list a new committer in docs/history.txt ... in December 2012
16:11 rambutan       Only problem with living in TH is that there is a certain disincentive to drink coffee when the temperature is 137 °F
16:08 rambutan       Wonder of HP or IBM needs a sysadmin in Thailand?
16:07 rambutan       I need a cush job with perks
16:03 mtompset       Oh right lunch.
16:02 druthb         should be nearly lunch-time here; I think I hear them setting up the buffet.
16:01 * druthb       perks up a lil, and nibbles on the chocolate.
16:01 * mtompset     gives druthb chocolate in hope it will make things cheery again.
16:00 * druthb       is not that skeery.
15:59 * druthb       pouts.
15:59 * mtompset     waves back like a bot would do, because he isn't really alive anymore due to druthb's rampant serial scare-ing. ;)
15:58 * druthb       waves to mtompset
15:57 jenkins_koha   Starting build #72 for job master_maria (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #69 1 hr 59 min ago)
15:57 huginn`        04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10692 normal, P5 - low, ---, kenza.zaki, Pushed to Master , UT: Routines about transfers in C4::Circulation.pm need unit tests
15:57 huginn`        04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10566 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Improve OPAC course reserves pages
15:57 huginn`        04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10710 normal, P5 - low, ---, kenza.zaki, Pushed to Master , UT : OfflineOperation's routines in C4/Circulation.t need unit tests.
15:57 jenkins_koha   * Kenza Zaki: Bug 10692: add unit tests for C4::Circulation routines about transfers
15:57 jenkins_koha   * Galen Charlton: Bug 10566: (follow-up) fix HTML validation issues
15:57 jenkins_koha   * Owen Leonard: Bug 10566 - Improve OPAC course reserves pages
15:57 huginn`        04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10767 normal, P5 - low, ---, kenza.zaki, Pushed to Master , UT: Routines which interact with the table issuingrules in C4/Circulation need unit test
15:57 jenkins_koha   * Galen Charlton: Bug 10710: (follow-up) perltidy new code
15:57 jenkins_koha   * Kenza Zaki: Bug 10710: add unit tests for OfflineOperation's routines in C4/Circulation.pm
15:57 jenkins_koha   * Galen Charlton: Bug 10767: (follow-up) remove FIXME comments
15:57 jenkins_koha   * Kenza Zaki: Bug 10767: add unit tests for C4::Circulation routines that use issuingrules
15:57 jenkins_koha   Project master_maria build #71: STILL UNSTABLE in 39 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/master_maria/71/
15:54 huginn`        New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 9782: hide cancel button when importing MARC bibliographic frameworks <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=0779e98ddf482e833936cb4a0f2985dcad2b45f6>
15:50 mmm45          any suggestion why we might experience this issue with the expected? :-)
15:49 mtompset       Oooo... I like the Koha to house logo swap on the resize.
15:47 mmm45          and the issue seems to have started after the upgrade from 3.10
15:46 mmm45          we have Koha 3.12.4
15:46 mmm45          it never goes away
15:46 mmm45          Under serials I have a title that keeps two expected issues.. When I delete either one of the expected issues, it immediately brings another one
15:45 mtompset       click home.
15:45 mtompset       click back twice
15:45 mtompset       use member, member sign in.
15:45 mtompset       click self checkout link.
15:45 mmm45          hello
15:44 mtompset       login member,member.
15:44 mtompset       go to site.
15:44 mtompset       Was just working on that.
15:44 oleonard       mtompset: What are the steps you're following?
15:43 huginn`        New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 10699: (follow-up) fix parameter test in DeleteBranchTransferLimits() <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=ac11a5d9ff982d89ed1f00ca585e1ecb9e0195eb> / Bug 10699: add explicit return value for DeleteBranchTransferLimits() <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=88f15db30a9da6a24cf575759a97e8765be61ad4>
15:42 mtompset       yep, that's weird!
15:41 mtompset       I think my koha self checkout link click and going back triggered a change to who is logged in.
15:41 mtompset       I was logged in as member, member
15:40 wahanui        the is, like, a stop word
15:40 mtompset       WHAT THE?!
15:39 drojf          i'll see if they have it. thanks :)
15:38 drojf          a friend recommended rosamonte too
15:38 drojf          looks like they don't have that. Amanda, CBSé, Cruz de Malta, Nobleza Gaucha, La Tranquera, La Hoja, Rosamonte, Taragüi
15:37 tcohen         "La Merced" would be a premium brand
15:37 tcohen         I like Rosamonte, the best for me is "La Merced" ("de campo" flavour)
15:36 mtompset       Hmmm... isn't the "submit and close this window" button supposed to close the window?
15:35 drojf          tcohen: do you have recommendations for yerba mate brands? i'm trying to get some from argentina at a restaurant today
15:29 oleonard       If I'm lucky it will be "10th time out of 10"
15:28 oleonard       If my "git fetch" is going to time out 9 times out of 10, would it--statistically speaking--sometimes connect on the first or second try?
15:23 huginn`        New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 10693: (follow-up) fix parameter checking in CreateBranchTransferLimit() <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=6751c5dc7c963defd0a31adfd46d0665abf41cd6> / Bug 10693: CreateBranchTransferLimit's return value in C4::Circulation.pm should... <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=3c61f95fb41152994ca2807eee87dc8e13ba219d>
15:23 oleonard       I'm pretty sure it's a problem with that test system
15:23 jcamins        Also, weirdly, the login link at the top doesn't work in FF 3.6.
15:23 oleonard       Oh yeah I keep forgetting to ask wizzyrea about that
15:22 jcamins        Does the opac search history die dramatically for anyone else?
15:22 oleonard       Some of the media query related JS things seem to be broken in FF3.6
15:22 jcamins        oleonard: yeah, that's why we want FF 3.6.x to at least sort of work.
15:21 oleonard       I've never really thought about it. But I do recall that Firefox 4+ is incompatible with not-very-old versions of OSX
15:21 jcamins        Well... the responsiveness works.
15:21 jcamins        And it does.
15:21 mtompset       "Your personal details" wraps lines, when it goes bold.
15:21 jcamins        oleonard: well, I think we want it to work, at least.
15:19 oleonard       Do we support Firefox 3.6.x?
15:18 oleonard       Thanks mtompset
15:18 jenkins_koha   Starting build #71 for job master_maria (previous build: UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #69 1 hr 20 min ago)
15:18 huginn`        04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10629 normal, P5 - low, ---, kenza.zaki, Pushed to Master , Inappropriate uses of $sth->finish() in C4::Branch.pm
15:18 huginn`        04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10508 normal, P5 - low, ---, kenza.zaki, Pushed to Master , UT: C4::Branch.pm needs unit tests
15:18 huginn`        04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10690 trivial, P5 - low, ---, magnus, Pushed to Master , Warn about trailing slashes in description of OPACBaseURL and staffClientBaseURL
15:18 jenkins_koha   * Kenza Zaki: Bug 10629: remove inappropriate uses of $sth->finish() in C4::Branch
15:18 jenkins_koha   * Galen Charlton: Bug 10508: (follow-up) remove Perl 5.14 construct
15:17 huginn`        04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10130 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, campbellreidtait, Pushed to Master , Input fields for branch configuration are too short
15:17 jenkins_koha   * Chris Cormack: Bug 10508: (follow-up) fix a typo
15:17 jenkins_koha   * Kenza Zaki: Bug 10508: add unit tests for C4::Branch
15:17 jenkins_koha   * Magnus Enger: Bug 10690 - Warn about trailing slashes in description of OPACBaseURL and staffClientBaseURL
15:17 jenkins_koha   * Owen Leonard: Bug 10130: widen input fields for library configuration
15:17 huginn`        04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6594 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Add schema.org microdata
15:17 jenkins_koha   * Dan Scott: Bug 6594: Schema.org span nesting improvements
15:17 jenkins_koha   * Dan Scott: Bug 6594: Correct schema.org context for item status
15:17 jenkins_koha   * Dan Scott: Bug 6594: Move subject keywords schema.org markup into <span> element
15:17 jenkins_koha   * Dan Scott: Bug 6594: Schema.org structured data for OPAC display
15:17 jenkins_koha   Project master_maria build #70: UNSTABLE in 39 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/master_maria/70/
15:17 oleonard       Resize the browser to make sure the layout changes at different viewport sizes
15:17 oleonard       Go to http://responsive.mykoha.co.nz/, poke around.
15:16 mtompset       Give me a test plan, and I'll test 11 for you.
15:16 mtompset       I have a VM running with 11.
15:16 mtompset       Windows 8 has 11.
15:14 jcamins        I only have 8 and 10, sorry.
15:13 huginn`        New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 10692: add unit tests for C4::Circulation routines about transfers <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=a58c5334c96105315ee3bf1cbb62d8c1aab82f0c> / Bug 10566: (follow-up) fix HTML validation issues <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=e1bde425d88629fe714e0317b09e0f2bea152fe1> / Bug 10566 - Improve OPAC course reserves pages <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p
15:12 oleonard       IE 10 seems to be fine. I'm going to test IE 9 next, but I need to get a new VM set up for it.
15:09 mtompset       Let me see what my virtualized Windows 8 is.
15:09 mtompset       I have an IE 10.
15:09 oleonard       mtompset: You're volunteering to test?
15:08 drojf          oleonard: that's better support than anyone could expect
15:08 mtompset       But it breaks in IE9, IE10, and IE11? (I think there is 11)
15:07 dbs            took me long enough...
15:07 dbs            tf: I guess so! (re: Dan Scott, new contributor)
15:06 oleonard       ...last updated February 22, 2011
15:05 oleonard       ...released on March 19, 2009
15:04 oleonard       The good news is that things seems to be working decently in IE8
15:03 jenkins_koha   Starting build #1392 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS)
15:02 reiveune1      bye
15:01 huginn`        04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10593 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Pushed to Master , AuthoritiesLog should default to yes
15:01 huginn`        04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9247 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, magnus, Pushed to Master , Add two more usage examples to the manpage for koha-mysql
15:01 jenkins_koha   * Tomas Cohen Arazi: Bug 10593: make AuthoritiesLog default to yes
15:01 jenkins_koha   * Magnus Enger: Bug 9247 - Add two more usage examples to the manpage for koha-mysql
15:01 jenkins_koha   Project Koha_master build #1391: SUCCESS in 1 hr 14 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/1391/
14:58 oleonard       But specifically, I'm testing the new Bootstrap theme in IE and wish I didn't have to.
14:58 oleonard       ^^
14:58 jcamins        It exists.
14:56 mtompset       What is wrong with IE this time?
14:55 jcamins        ie--
14:55 oleonard       grumble grumble Internet Explorer grumble
14:53 huginn`        New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 10710: (follow-up) perltidy new code <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=35b83e540ea6d2f9856de827cfcad7c3b2b07f82> / Bug 10710: add unit tests for OfflineOperation's routines in C4/Circulation.pm <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=87890bc366d566685f1484cb476200f5ca302e91> / Bug 10767: (follow-up) remove FIXME comments <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=ko
14:41 mtompset       Greetings, #koha.
14:38 jenkins_koha   Starting build #70 for job master_maria (previous build: SUCCESS)
14:38 huginn`        04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10587 minor, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , HTML errors on authority detail page in OPAC
14:38 huginn`        04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10593 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Pushed to Master , AuthoritiesLog should default to yes
14:38 huginn`        04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9247 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, magnus, Pushed to Master , Add two more usage examples to the manpage for koha-mysql
14:38 jenkins_koha   * Owen Leonard: Bug 10587: fix HTML errors on authority detail page in OPAC
14:38 jenkins_koha   * Tomas Cohen Arazi: Bug 10593: make AuthoritiesLog default to yes
14:38 jenkins_koha   * Magnus Enger: Bug 9247 - Add two more usage examples to the manpage for koha-mysql
14:38 jenkins_koha   Project master_maria build #69: SUCCESS in 40 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/master_maria/69/
14:33 huginn`        New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 10629: remove inappropriate uses of $sth->finish() in C4::Branch <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=4287fd9d1c3ae16a0496b6261de44642bc92ab9c> / Bug 10508: (follow-up) remove Perl 5.14 construct <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=7fa8e92e8e261f822b610da65b28a094e21e452c> / Bug 10508: (follow-up) fix a typo <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=com
14:29 tcohen         moving on then, thanks for the feedback
14:28 kf             tcohen: I think i agreew ith jcamins - also i wouldn't trust the tests to show you that anyway :(
14:27 jcamins        tcohen: I'd say that if oleonard wants to backport it, that's great, but it doesn't have to be backported.
14:26 huginn`        04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10609 trivial, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Use branch name rather than branch code in serials-collection.pl
14:26 jcamins        bug 10609
14:25 tcohen         i'm trying to provide a patch for 10609 (3.12.x) and unit tests don't help me check I didn't break things :(
14:23 huginn`        New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 10690 - Warn about trailing slashes in description of OPACBaseURL and staffClient... <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=da40fe77fc471cfe8e797a7be5f87a506cf9d921>
14:22 tcohen         np, thx
14:22 kf             ask me tonight maybe?
14:21 kf             tcohen: sorry can't - my dev environment is not fired up right now
14:21 tcohen         kf: could you confirm Serials.t pass on your box?
14:19 tcohen         do t/db_dependent/Serials.t pass at all?
14:19 tcohen         hi gmcharlt
14:14 kf             oups, meant :)
14:14 kf             Dan Scott - new contributor even? ):
14:14 gmcharlt       hi kf
14:13 * kf           waves at gmcharlt :)
14:13 huginn`        New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 10130: widen input fields for library configuration <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=08330ec05b8854df61bb28c2498b6ef0a727589e>
14:03 huginn`        New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 6594: Schema.org span nesting improvements <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=fa68cda549a14fa0286c07035faa6bfa5654b536> / Bug 6594: Correct schema.org context for item status <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=1a50854d4fd4154013ae35dfd397fffaa0210d83> / Bug 6594: Move subject keywords schema.org markup into element <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha
14:02 huginn`        gmcharlt: Quote #95: "< robin> to be honest, I think if you mention Koha and Perl, your CV could say your hobbies include puppy-kitten cage-fights, and you'd be snapped up :)" (added by chris at 09:36 PM, October 06, 2010)
14:02 gmcharlt       @quote random
13:57 jenkins_koha   Starting build #69 for job master_maria (previous build: SUCCESS)
13:53 huginn`        New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 10587: fix HTML errors on authority detail page in OPAC <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=452a4b7775ce10655543aa81f670e2fb497ccc9b> / Bug 10593: make AuthoritiesLog default to yes <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=0cfe0fa92328e62d1fbca33ea69869ad4f034c1b>
13:46 jenkins_koha   Starting build #1391 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS)
13:43 huginn`        New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 9247 - Add two more usage examples to the manpage for koha-mysql <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=5b121593800088656a0430da641b4c12a4e53980>
13:37 magnuse        sorry, vfernandes - not much experience with csv and encoding problems give me headaches :-/
13:35 vfernandes     magnuse any help with my problem?
13:34 oleonard       If reality matches this headline, then good on New Zealand: http://www.zdnet.com/new-zealand-bans-software-patents-7000019955/
13:32 magnuse        drojf: for screws?
13:31 * drojf        goes shopping
13:28 drojf          but i don't know anything about exporting CSV, sorry
13:28 drojf          hm i don't find it, maybe i am confusing something
13:26 vfernandes     no because i thought it could be a CSV profile
13:25 drojf          i think there is a bug for that. have you looked at bugzilla?
13:24 vfernandes     what could be?
13:23 vfernandes     accentuated characters appears with wrong encoding
13:22 vfernandes     i'm having encoding problems when exporting reports do CSV or separated text
13:21 vfernandes     hi people :)
13:21 huginn`        oleonard: The current temperature in Whitlind Woods, Athens, Ohio is 23.8°C (9:20 AM EDT on August 28, 2013). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 95%. Dew Point: 23.0°C. Pressure: 29.95 in 1014 hPa (Falling).
13:21 oleonard       @wunder 45701
13:17 druthb         Always.  druthb is out of her mind.
13:17 wahanui        magnuse is, like, a Norwegian giant
13:17 druthb         magnuse!
13:17 magnuse        again?
13:17 wahanui        Well, she finally snapped, like we all knew she would.
13:17 magnuse        druthb!
13:16 druthb         Hi, magnuse and oleonard!
13:13 magnuse        git was slow for me earlier today
13:10 oleonard       This is going to be a long day if I can never get my VM to connect to git...
13:01 druthb         :)
13:00 drojf          druthb!
13:00 druthb         kf!  drojf!
12:51 oleonard       A new patch could probably be done to fix the problem.
12:50 oleonard       tcohen: It seems like too small a problem to spend too much time backporting on.
12:49 tcohen         or, do u think it would be a good move to backport those for future patches?
12:48 tcohen         do u think it can be fixed without them for 3.12?
12:48 huginn`        04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10609 trivial, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Use branch name rather than branch code in serials-collection.pl
12:48 tcohen         oleonard: bug 10609 depends on tt plugins from the course reserves module patch
12:47 * oleonard     is having weird connectivity problems today...
12:31 tcohen         hi oleonard
12:20 kf             hi oleonard :)
12:20 oleonard       Hi #koha
11:59 libsysguy      yo magnuse
11:59 magnuse        hiya libsysguy
11:55 libsysguy      o/
11:40 huginn`        04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6594 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Passed QA , Add schema.org microdata
11:40 magnuse        rangi++ for qa'ing bug 6594
11:19 drojf          i got two now. and a hole that is missing one, but none of the four types i had altogether fits :D
11:17 kf             no idea still where it goes
11:17 kf             i had only 1 too many last time
11:16 kf             heh
11:16 drojf          one of which i know goes under the battery
11:16 drojf          now it's 4 ;)
11:16 kf             drojf: cool score :)
11:08 drojf          reassembled my notebook and i only got 10 extra screws ;)
10:55 * drojf        declares summer to be over and fires up the daylight lamp
10:47 huginn`        magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 10.0°C (12:20 PM CEST on August 28, 2013). Conditions: Rain Showers. Humidity: 94%. Dew Point: 9.0°C. Pressure: 29.80 in 1009 hPa (Steady).
10:47 magnuse        @wunder boo
10:46 huginn`        kf: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 18.1°C (12:45 PM CEST on August 28, 2013). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 84%. Dew Point: 15.0°C. Pressure: 30.06 in 1018 hPa (Steady).
10:46 kf             @wunder Konstanz
10:35 huginn`        drojf: The current temperature in Berlin, Germany is 22.7°C (12:00 PM CEST on August 28, 2013). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 25%. Dew Point: 2.0°C. Pressure: 30.06 in 1018 hPa (Steady).
10:35 drojf          @wunder berlin, germany
10:35 drojf          that was a short day ;)
10:35 drojf          wow, it's dark again
10:29 * magnuse      wanders off in search of food
10:23 magnuse        yeah, that makes "git branch -r" not meaningless
10:19 kf             ohgood hint
10:18 rangi          if you want to clean them out of your local clone too
10:18 rangi          git remote prune origin
10:18 kf             was like 10 pages in my mail account :)
10:18 kf             a ton is right
10:18 rangi          yup
10:18 magnuse        rangi: you moved a ton of branches to koha-archive?
10:10 JDatTeTakere1  Night rangi
10:09 rangi          cya JDatTeTakere1
10:09 JDatTeTakere1  Better head to bed if I'm going to have any chance of being awake for the KohaCon IRC. Night all.
10:09 JDatTeTakere1  It thinks my name is purple too :)
10:08 kf             i really like ti too - using it at home with msn, icq, xmpp too
10:07 kf             :)
10:05 JDatTeTakere1  Trying out Pidgin...like it!!
10:04 rangi          http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha-archive.git;a=heads
10:04 rangi          http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=heads
10:04 Oak            what did you do rangi ?
10:04 kf             probably has been like that forever
10:03 kf             it's not quiete styling friendly
10:03 rangi          not sure actually
10:03 kf             why do we do the news as table?
10:03 kf             hmpf
10:00 rangi          i wonder if anyone noticed what i did in the weekend?
09:49 drojf          so it's working now. because the case is open. it said fan error when it was closed. i think i'll get used to use it like this :P
09:48 rangi          heh
09:48 drojf          clean that fan they said. it'll only be a minute they said.
09:45 JDatTeTakere   I'll look forward to seeing you in Reno, Katrin.  And maybe at the KohaCon meeting in 8 hours?
09:44 JDatTeTakere   :-)
09:44 kf             it's Katrin :)
09:42 JDatTeTakere   So your name isn't really Purple?  I'm guessing it starts with K?
09:30 kf             pidgin
09:30 kf             i think purple has something to do with my irc client
09:26 magnuse        heh, i get purple to, but germany for the country :-)
09:25 JDatTeTakere   Ahhh...whoistells me you are from Sweden and your realname is purple
09:14 kf             if I did the math right
09:14 kf             it's 8 pm here
09:14 kf             not quite - Germany :)
09:14 JDatTeTakere   What time will it be for you kf?  You're in Sweden?
09:12 JDatTeTakere   If someone can brew me a virtual coffee...
09:12 JDatTeTakere   But I'd like to be there.
09:12 kf             me neither
09:12 kf             yeah
09:12 JDatTeTakere   I'm not really a morning person.
09:12 kf             hm probably quite early for kiwis
09:12 JDatTeTakere   I'm just wondering if I'm going to be able to get up at 6am (NZ time) for it.
09:11 kf             JDatTeTakere: will you be around for the kohacon meeting tomorrow morning?
09:10 magnuse        likewise JDatTeTakere :-)
09:09 JDatTeTakere   Oh...sorry to hear that Magnus. It would have been nice to meet you.
09:09 * kf           thnks we need to get a little robot for magnuse so he can attend virtually
09:09 magnuse        i'm not :`-(
09:09 JDatTeTakere   Yay.  Me too.
09:09 kf             I am
09:09 JDatTeTakere   Are either of you going to KohaCon13?
09:08 JDatTeTakere   Hello KF.
09:08 kf             hi JDatTeTakere :)
09:06 JDatTeTakere   Hi magnuse
09:06 magnuse        kia ora JDatTeTakere
08:39 * paul_p       leaves for a few hours.
08:19 * kf           worries about drojfs computer now
08:17 * magnuse      needs to read these two again: http://esme.priv.bibkat.no/cgi-bin/koha/opac-search.pl?q=linked+data
08:16 drojf          ok. when building something makes the computer shutdown it might be time to clean the fan :/
08:14 * magnuse      votes for linked data
08:14 rangi          yep
08:13 magnuse        yeah, i think that is sort of the aim of it all
08:10 * kf           liked linked data
08:09 rangi          hmm yeah i cant think up a good label
08:08 magnuse        ooh, nice
08:07 drojf          don't give it a label, call all things marc "the past" :P
08:07 magnuse        lol
08:07 rangi          or 'not 20 years ago' :)
08:07 magnuse        yeah, true
08:07 rangi          the present
08:07 rangi          or even
08:07 magnuse        how about just "the future"? ;-)
08:06 magnuse        and "Linked data" is probably not a good fit for your conversion thingy...
08:06 magnuse        yup
08:03 rangi          its a bit like cloud
08:03 rangi          yeah
08:02 magnuse        but the whole linked data/semantic web/rdf terminology is a bit blurred to me
08:02 rangi          yeah
08:02 magnuse        what should we call it? i think "linked data" sounds more "friendly" than "rdf"...
08:01 * magnuse      is all for a new tab
08:01 kf             that sounds cool :)
08:00 rangi          i reckon we could actually make a new tab
08:00 rangi          yep
07:59 magnuse        rangi: i'm just about ready to add some sysprefs to my linked data work - would you agree that it makes sense to have separate prefs for enabling your feature and mine? you might want to enable one without the other, i think
07:57 rangi          ill do some updates, and then send it back for you to add whatever i missed :)
07:57 rangi          yes please
07:56 paul_p         rangi do you want me to send it to you ?
07:56 paul_p         rangi yes it is
07:56 rangi          paul_p: is it done in odt?
07:54 dcook          Ciao everyone
07:54 dcook          Home time me thinks
07:53 rangi          paul_p: i think maybe update the one you used
07:53 drojf          good morning #koha
07:52 magnuse        i don't think i would buy one without trying it... ;-)
07:47 dcook          Yeah, it makes you wonder a bit
07:46 dcook          hehe
07:37 magnuse        yeah, that's what i thought too :-)
07:37 kf             dcook: looks nice, but not sure about the typing :)
07:35 magnuse        hehe, nice
07:34 dcook          Rather cool, no?
07:34 dcook          http://www.datamancer.net/keyboards/keyboards.htm
07:34 dcook          A friend of mine bought a "Datamancer" keyboard for his brother's birthday
07:34 dcook          magnuse
07:33 dcook          Oh man...
07:26 kf             hi samueld
07:25 samueld        hi everybody :-
07:21 dcook          Ahh! 5:20?
07:20 dcook          Vaguely
07:20 dcook          Hmm?
07:17 paul_p         rangi (or do you already have a presentation to start from ?)
07:17 paul_p         rangi = we will have to prepare our 2-voices history talk at KohaCon13. Do you have some ideas ? Do we write a new presentation, do we update/modify the one I used already twice ? other suggestion ?
07:17 * kf           wonders if dcook is still around :)
07:16 rangi          right time to put kids to bed, bbiab
07:16 rangi          yep probably
07:16 magnuse        http://perldoc.koha-community.org/C4/Auth_with_ldap.html
07:16 huginn`        04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10783 critical, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , LDAP integration in koha
07:16 magnuse        is this the best tip for the guy on bug 10783?
07:15 kf             oh hi paul_p
07:15 paul_p         hi kf ;-)
07:15 kf             hi rangi, hi magnuse :)
07:15 magnuse        hehe
07:15 rangi          paul_p: yep, spring starts this weekend
07:15 huginn`        paul_p: The current temperature in Marseille, France is 20.0°C (9:00 AM CEST on August 28, 2013). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 68%. Dew Point: 14.0°C. Pressure: 29.95 in 1014 hPa (Rising).
07:15 paul_p         @wunder Marseille
07:15 rangi          hi kf
07:15 paul_p         (which does not mean the weather is bad, just not so hot anymore...)
07:14 magnuse        KIA ORA KF!
07:14 paul_p         rangi = is spring coming for you ? Because here, summer is leaving (we've unplugged the conditionned air, probably not plugged again before 2014...)
07:13 paul_p         hello #koha
07:13 magnuse        kia ora paul_p
07:13 magnuse        huh, where's our "using ldap with koha" docs?
07:13 rangi          heya paul_p ltns
07:11 magnuse        kia ora rangi
07:10 sophie_m       hello rangi and #koha
07:10 lds            hello
07:09 alex_a         hello rangi
07:09 rangi          hiy matts, sophie_m, gaetan_B, alex_a, magnuse, reiveune and lds
07:09 matts          hi !
07:08 huginn`        rangi: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 13.0°C (7:00 PM NZST on August 28, 2013). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 72%. Dew Point: 8.0°C. Pressure: 29.74 in 1007 hPa (Steady).
07:08 rangi          @wunder nzwn
07:07 huginn`        alex_a: The current temperature in Limoges, France is 13.0°C (9:00 AM CEST on August 28, 2013). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 94%. Dew Point: 12.0°C. Pressure: 30.12 in 1020 hPa (Steady).
07:07 alex_a         @wunder gueret
07:07 huginn`        magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 12.0°C (8:50 AM CEST on August 28, 2013). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 82%. Dew Point: 9.0°C. Pressure: 29.77 in 1008 hPa (Steady).
07:07 magnuse        @wunder boo
07:06 huginn`        magnuse: The current temperature in Marseille, France is 20.0°C (9:00 AM CEST on August 28, 2013). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 68%. Dew Point: 14.0°C. Pressure: 29.95 in 1014 hPa (Rising).
07:06 magnuse        @wunder marseille
07:06 magnuse        bonjour biblibre
06:59 alex_a         hello
06:57 gaetan_B       hello
06:45 magnuse        bonjour reiveune
06:40 dcook          salut reiveune :)
06:39 reiveune       dcook magnuse \o/
06:38 reiveune       hello
06:38 magnuse        hiya dcook
06:36 dcook          hey ya magnuse :)
06:36 dcook          Ooh. I could go for some coconut gelato about now..
06:36 dcook          Mmm ice cream
06:35 magnuse        ah
06:31 cait1          it's a tradition if you leave for vacationand i am a little late :)
06:31 magnuse        uh huh?!?
06:30 cait1          ok, off to buy icecream for the coworkers
06:29 cait1          :)
06:27 magnuse        needs signoff is down to 139 - yay!!
06:27 magnuse        campbell++ indeed
05:54 dcook          hehe
05:53 * cait         blames bgkriegel++ and campbell++
05:31 dcook          Busy busy worker bees, I guess :p
05:29 cait           that#s exactly where i started from last night!
05:29 cait           well there is my queue... back to 81
05:29 cait           lol
05:28 cait           :)
05:24 dcook          campbell++
05:24 dcook          Wow, 6!
05:23 dcook          Yepper
05:22 cait           was taht our new sign-offer just leaving?
05:22 dcook          Ah, beat me to the punch
05:22 cait           hi dcook :)
05:22 dcook          Guten Morgen, cait :)
05:22 * cait         waves
04:54 tweetbot       [off] twitter: @KohaAloha: "@shandmj try the official website first :o) -> http://t.co/O5VTmJJLzF #KohaILS"
04:31 dcook          lol
04:29 wizzyrea       i'm not hugging you, i'm hitting you hugs.
04:29 wizzyrea       (because they're from you)
04:29 wizzyrea       :) manly hugs. with slapping.
03:58 bag            good and give him the get well hugs from this side of the ocean
03:57 * wizzyrea     has soup planned
03:57 wizzyrea       *nod* I will make sure to take good care of him
03:57 bag            wizzyrea: tell trea to get better poor guy
03:56 bag            evening
03:42 dcook          Ooo, that could be rather handy
03:42 wizzyrea       that is superhandy
03:42 wizzyrea       wowie! To copy untracked files into a separate directory outside the git repository before cleaning up, use $ git ls-files --others --exclude-standard -z | cpio -pmd0 ../untracked-backup/
03:25 dcook          campbell++
03:23 wizzyrea       campbell++ - signed off on two patches already!
03:17 cjh            wizzyrea++
03:17 cjh            in that case...
03:17 cjh            awesome :)
03:17 wizzyrea       it's a belated thank you for the things you did for the academy ;)
03:17 cjh            but seriously?
03:16 cjh            \o/
03:16 wizzyrea       be awesome
03:15 cjh            wizzyrea: what did I do now?
03:12 wizzyrea       :)
02:23 mtompset       Have a great day, #koha.
02:21 dcook          Mmm, I don't know if I ever knew that's how you manually applied a patch to Git without git bz..
02:16 dcook          I would share, but you know...ditch and all
02:16 dcook          O_O...I just realized that I have chocolate in my backpack..
02:15 dcook          If you do end up using git bz, the instructions for sign off are on its page
02:15 wizzyrea       sign off on patches is http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Sign_off_on_patches
02:14 wizzyrea       http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Sign_off_on_patches
02:14 wizzyrea       I can't remember
02:14 wizzyrea       did we have a handy guide for signing off?
02:07 huginn`        04Bug 10130: enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Needs Signoff , Input fields for branch configuration are too short
02:07 wizzyrea       http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10130
02:07 wizzyrea       we'll see
02:07 wizzyrea       hehe
02:04 dcook          No worries if you don't want to do it. It's just like...10 characters of difference
02:04 huginn`        04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10793 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, dcook, Needs Signoff , XSLT change 780/785 search queries to use ti,phr indexes like other linking entries
02:04 dcook          wizzyrea, campbell: bug 10793
02:03 dcook          In what context?
02:03 dcook          ?
02:01 mtompset       Is it possible to determine the branchcode from jquery?
01:55 dcook          But...but...comprehensiveness...
01:55 dcook          I really need to write shorter bug titles...
01:54 dcook          Fair enough
01:54 wizzyrea       not that git bz isn't proper.
01:54 jcamins        True.
01:54 wizzyrea       yeahhhh but we have to learn the proper way first ;)
01:54 dcook          git-bz++
01:54 jcamins        git-bz++
01:54 jcamins        wizzyrea: git-bz is so easy not using it is more work. :D
01:53 wizzyrea       we'll see
01:53 wizzyrea       I could be wrong though
01:53 wizzyrea       well this is just oging to be git practice - probably not going to go to the trouble of setting up git bz
01:52 * dcook        stops muttering and starts typing more...in bugzilla
01:52 dcook          Might need to add 780 and 785 entries in a bib
01:52 dcook          Actually, maybe not SUPER easy
01:52 dcook          Super light and easy to test so it could be good git bz practice
01:51 dcook          PS. I have a very simple XSLT template change coming up in a minute or two
01:51 dcook          Thanks :)
01:50 wizzyrea       dcook++ for suggestions of oleonard's bugs
01:49 wizzyrea       BECAUSE REASONS.
01:49 wizzyrea       cjh++
01:48 wizzyrea       later!
01:48 Brooke         so I'm off!
01:48 Brooke         the little mister just got back from ceramics
01:42 dcook          I think I might have a few mods I have been meaning to send in...or at least check against master
01:38 Brooke         all the cool kids are doin' it.
01:38 Brooke         dooo eeet
01:37 * dcook        is half tempted to send in a few more patches now though..
01:36 wizzyrea       yep the oleonard ones are always pretty good.
01:35 dcook          I would do them but between distracting myself from searing pain or working on this oai project, I'm occupied :p
01:34 * dcook        suggests that campbell take a look at some of the oleonard bugs
01:34 dcook          Actually, Owen's bugs are often fairly easy to test as well...
01:33 Brooke         he's like a bug ninja!
01:33 Brooke         heh
01:33 dcook          s/damn/praise/
01:33 dcook          Yep, damn that man, he's efficient
01:33 * dcook        takes a look
01:33 dcook          I think Owen might've already tackled most of mine
01:32 dcook          Ohhh
01:32 dcook          \o/
01:32 wizzyrea       so hit him with your easy bugs. RIght now we're getting koha installed and gitified.
01:32 wizzyrea       he's going to be learning how to do signoffs :)
01:32 dcook          wizzyrea, campbell: So what's up for the next couple of days?
01:31 dcook          :p
01:31 * Brooke       mumbles about the damn plebes ;)
01:31 dcook          I can't remember the other things I was reading the other day
01:31 Brooke         that *always* happens
01:31 * Brooke       hands campbell a cookie.
01:31 dcook          There's also been talk of displacing poor people who are in the way of "progress" :/
01:30 Brooke         hi campbell
01:30 Brooke         rec organisation is like taht
01:30 dcook          Hey ya campbell!
01:30 Brooke         naught happens til like the week before
01:30 wizzyrea       everyone say hi to campbell, he's our intern for a couple of days :)
01:30 Brooke         pffft
01:30 dcook          1 year away and apparently stadium construction isn't necessarily going that well
01:30 dcook          Recently, I've just been hearing about the things that Brazil have been doing..
01:30 dcook          Hmm, I heardn't heard anything about that
01:29 Brooke         v cool programme
01:29 Brooke         and some temporary training
01:29 Brooke         a whole bunch of computer user rooms were set up
01:29 Brooke         some of the stuff that FIFA did in Africa for their World Cup kicked arse
01:29 Brooke         mmmm world cup
01:28 dcook          Soccer/Football World Cup that is..
01:28 dcook          I think the World Cup still trumps all other sports :p
01:27 dcook          I think I was born with skates and a stick :p
01:27 dcook          Put a Canadian in front of a hockey game in person or on TV...and that just changes
01:26 dcook          Of course, I say that not watching a hockey game at the moment
01:26 dcook          Don't tell the other Canadians, but...I'm not that fussed over hockey ;)
01:23 * Brooke       ducks and covers.
01:23 Brooke         which is BETTER THAN HOCKEY
01:23 Brooke         only the super bowl
01:22 dcook          Well, tv commercials that is
01:22 dcook          I'm not sure I miss TV :p
01:19 Brooke         ikr
01:14 dcook          Man...that brings back memories
01:12 Brooke         kekekekeke
01:11 mtompset       Brooke: http://youtu.be/UDTZCgsZGeA
01:11 wizzyrea       eep
01:11 jcamins        lol
01:11 dcook          More room for ideas without all that brain cluttering up the place?
01:10 * jcamins      tries to catch the last vestiges of brain as they drip out of his ears. Graph traversal is complicated.
01:09 wahanui        You are quocuy's idol:)
01:09 dcook          You?
01:09 dcook          Mmm, good and bad. So it goes ;)
01:09 Brooke         how's it going DCook
01:08 huginn`        Brooke: The operation succeeded.
01:08 Brooke         @later tell Oak you never ring, you never write, I'll just lick myself in a corner like a dawg.
01:08 dcook          hey ya Brooke :)
01:08 dcook          lol
01:07 Brooke         whaaaazzzzaaaah
01:07 wizzyrea       hey brooke
01:07 Brooke         o/
01:07 jcamins        Exactly.
01:07 wizzyrea       "make it work" is about all I expect from an install document.
01:06 wizzyrea       the human probably would *want* name based. THe human probably wouldn't know how to do that though. It's really something that can be handled post-install.
01:05 jcamins        That's probably not what's wanted, but until we start using Human::Mind::Reader in our installer, it'll have to do. ;)
01:05 jcamins        *your
01:05 wizzyrea       so go with what koha gives you
01:05 jcamins        wizzyrea: yes you can. Koha's installer provides no support for name-based, so if you're doing name-based, that immediately means that you're going to be striking off on their own.
01:05 wizzyrea       well you can't assume that the human actually knows wtf they want
01:04 wizzyrea       but what he said.
01:04 wizzyrea       i think you can't assume either
01:04 jcamins        port-based, since Makefile.PL doesn't configure name-based virtual hosts.
01:03 mtompset       If you are installing from source, would you expect to be doing a port-based install or a name-based install?
00:49 mtompset       DOH!
00:49 mtompset       Oak! How are you?
00:32 huginn`        Oak: The current temperature in Islamabad Airport, Pakistan is 28.0°C (5:00 AM PKT on August 28, 2013). Conditions: Thunderstorm. Humidity: 70%. Dew Point: 23.0°C. Pressure: 29.58 in 1002 hPa.
00:32 Oak            @wunder islamabad
00:17 mtompset       http://youtu.be/kRW7pITY5Cg (Now here's something I hope you'll really like. ;) )
00:16 jcamins        Yep.
00:16 dcook          Umlauts over the "e" according to the link as well
00:15 jcamins        And I got confused because druthb was talking about umlauts. It's actually the Danish ø.
00:15 * dcook        actually does know someone who uses sled dogs in the winter...for fun.
00:15 mtompset       http://youtu.be/65t-OzhlmvE
00:14 dcook          I've even seen that movie, although it was years ago now..
00:14 dcook          One day, I'll get your references, jcamins
00:13 jcamins        http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0071853/crazycredits
00:13 dcook          ibeardless: But he's a celebrity
00:13 * mtompset     does an impressions, "That trick never works!"
00:13 mtompset       jcamins: What is it with you and umlauts?
00:13 ibeardslee     but Bullwinkle isn't that scarey
00:12 jcamins        Ëspëcïällÿ ïf yöü trÿ tö clëän thëïr tëëth wïth ä träns-gäläctïc tööthbrüsh.
00:12 dcook          I was playing hide and seek in the woods once as a child, and a moose walked past me. I was frozen out of fear and wonder.
00:12 mtompset       The sled dogs are for the summer months, polar bears for winter. ;)
00:12 dcook          Majestic yet powerful
00:11 dcook          Mmm, that they are
00:11 jcamins        ibeardslee: you'd think that, but mööse are really nästy.
00:11 mtompset       No, they are white to match the magical polar bears that replace the sled dogs occasionally. :P
00:11 ibeardslee     moose hunting in a hockey rink, surely that'd be like shooting fish in a bowl?
00:10 mtompset       Hunting is too violent. Violence belongs in hockey rinks. ;)
00:10 dcook          mtompset: They want more car accidents?
00:10 dcook          I think that's a bit later in the year?
00:10 * dcook        tries to remember when moose hunting is
00:10 mtompset       Speaking of which, I have figured out why a lot of newer cars are white. :P
00:10 dcook          Mmm, yeah, I guess we'd class it as autumn
00:09 ibeardslee     surely you are out hunting moose and preparing for the winter?
00:09 dcook          You'll disturb the sled dogs
00:09 mtompset       No, it's autumn. :P
00:09 dcook          Shhh
00:09 ibeardslee     but it is summer over there
00:09 jcamins        lol
00:09 dcook          For all the non-Canadians, this is how we occupy ourselves in the winter months when we can't leave our igloos
00:09 * Oak          waves
00:08 mtompset       No, center of town, but there may be a building there called the town centre. :P
00:08 dcook          mtompset: What about the centre of town?
00:08 dcook          Good point, jcamins
00:07 mtompset       However, I am clear, in my mind, on center (of a circle), as compared to a centre (for hosting groups).
00:07 dcook          hehe
00:07 jcamins        Well, whoever it was, they'd disagree with your assertion about the US being less modern. :P
00:07 jcamins        Who was it who said that modernity is the destruction of the soul and the subjugation of labour?
00:07 dcook          I know, right?
00:07 mtompset       Now that we're thinking about it, I'm totally confused on use. :)
00:06 mtompset       Hmmm.... meter and metre, you have music, length, and the thing that actually measures.
00:05 tcohen         \o
00:05 dcook          o/ tcohen
00:05 tcohen         hi mtompset
00:04 dcook          Maybe not in all ways, but in some fundamental ones, I would agree
00:03 ibeardslee     oh, that is a bit more modern than the other other north american country ;)
00:03 dcook          Tensions between English, French, and American influences?
00:03 dcook          Special rules because we have polar bears?
00:03 dcook          Modern Canadian society you do :p
00:02 ibeardslee     not in modern society ;)
00:02 dcook          Rather than 5 kilometres
00:02 dcook          But 5 kilometers
00:02 dcook          You might notice a person say it was 5 metres
00:02 dcook          Sometimes
00:02 ibeardslee     different purposes
00:01 dcook          We totes use both in Canada...
00:00 * dcook        ponders meter vs metre for a moment