Time Nick Message
00:00 * dcook ponders meter vs metre for a moment
00:01 dcook We totes use both in Canada...
00:02 ibeardslee different purposes
00:02 dcook Sometimes
00:02 dcook You might notice a person say it was 5 metres
00:02 dcook But 5 kilometers
00:02 dcook Rather than 5 kilometres
00:02 ibeardslee not in modern society ;)
00:03 dcook Modern Canadian society you do :p
00:03 dcook Special rules because we have polar bears?
00:03 dcook Tensions between English, French, and American influences?
00:03 ibeardslee oh, that is a bit more modern than the other other north american country ;)
00:04 dcook Maybe not in all ways, but in some fundamental ones, I would agree
00:05 tcohen hi mtompset
00:05 dcook o/ tcohen
00:05 tcohen \o
00:06 mtompset Hmmm.... meter and metre, you have music, length, and the thing that actually measures.
00:07 mtompset Now that we're thinking about it, I'm totally confused on use. :)
00:07 dcook I know, right?
00:07 jcamins Who was it who said that modernity is the destruction of the soul and the subjugation of labour?
00:07 jcamins Well, whoever it was, they'd disagree with your assertion about the US being less modern. :P
00:07 dcook hehe
00:07 mtompset However, I am clear, in my mind, on center (of a circle), as compared to a centre (for hosting groups).
00:08 dcook Good point, jcamins
00:08 dcook mtompset: What about the centre of town?
00:08 mtompset No, center of town, but there may be a building there called the town centre. :P
00:09 * Oak waves
00:09 dcook For all the non-Canadians, this is how we occupy ourselves in the winter months when we can't leave our igloos
00:09 jcamins lol
00:09 ibeardslee but it is summer over there
00:09 dcook Shhh
00:09 mtompset No, it's autumn. :P
00:09 dcook You'll disturb the sled dogs
00:09 ibeardslee surely you are out hunting moose and preparing for the winter?
00:10 dcook Mmm, yeah, I guess we'd class it as autumn
00:10 mtompset Speaking of which, I have figured out why a lot of newer cars are white. :P
00:10 * dcook tries to remember when moose hunting is
00:10 dcook I think that's a bit later in the year?
00:10 dcook mtompset: They want more car accidents?
00:10 mtompset Hunting is too violent. Violence belongs in hockey rinks. ;)
00:11 ibeardslee moose hunting in a hockey rink, surely that'd be like shooting fish in a bowl?
00:11 mtompset No, they are white to match the magical polar bears that replace the sled dogs occasionally. :P
00:11 jcamins ibeardslee: you'd think that, but mööse are really nästy.
00:11 dcook Mmm, that they are
00:12 dcook Majestic yet powerful
00:12 mtompset The sled dogs are for the summer months, polar bears for winter. ;)
00:12 dcook I was playing hide and seek in the woods once as a child, and a moose walked past me. I was frozen out of fear and wonder.
00:12 jcamins Ëspëcïällÿ ïf yöü trÿ tö clëän thëïr tëëth wïth ä träns-gäläctïc tööthbrüsh.
00:13 ibeardslee but Bullwinkle isn't that scarey
00:13 mtompset jcamins: What is it with you and umlauts?
00:13 * mtompset does an impressions, "That trick never works!"
00:13 dcook ibeardless: But he's a celebrity
00:13 jcamins http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0071853/crazycredits
00:14 dcook One day, I'll get your references, jcamins
00:14 dcook I've even seen that movie, although it was years ago now..
00:15 mtompset http://youtu.be/65t-OzhlmvE
00:15 * dcook actually does know someone who uses sled dogs in the winter...for fun.
00:15 jcamins And I got confused because druthb was talking about umlauts. It's actually the Danish ø.
00:16 dcook Umlauts over the "e" according to the link as well
00:16 jcamins Yep.
00:17 mtompset http://youtu.be/kRW7pITY5Cg (Now here's something I hope you'll really like. ;) )
00:32 Oak @wunder islamabad
00:32 huginn` Oak: The current temperature in Islamabad Airport, Pakistan is 28.0°C (5:00 AM PKT on August 28, 2013). Conditions: Thunderstorm. Humidity: 70%. Dew Point: 23.0°C. Pressure: 29.58 in 1002 hPa.
00:49 mtompset Oak! How are you?
00:49 mtompset DOH!
01:03 mtompset If you are installing from source, would you expect to be doing a port-based install or a name-based install?
01:04 jcamins port-based, since Makefile.PL doesn't configure name-based virtual hosts.
01:04 wizzyrea i think you can't assume either
01:04 wizzyrea but what he said.
01:05 wizzyrea well you can't assume that the human actually knows wtf they want
01:05 jcamins wizzyrea: yes you can. Koha's installer provides no support for name-based, so if you're doing name-based, that immediately means that you're going to be striking off on their own.
01:05 wizzyrea so go with what koha gives you
01:05 jcamins *your
01:05 jcamins That's probably not what's wanted, but until we start using Human::Mind::Reader in our installer, it'll have to do. ;)
01:06 wizzyrea the human probably would *want* name based. THe human probably wouldn't know how to do that though. It's really something that can be handled post-install.
01:07 wizzyrea "make it work" is about all I expect from an install document.
01:07 jcamins Exactly.
01:07 Brooke o/
01:07 wizzyrea hey brooke
01:07 Brooke whaaaazzzzaaaah
01:08 dcook lol
01:08 dcook hey ya Brooke :)
01:08 Brooke @later tell Oak you never ring, you never write, I'll just lick myself in a corner like a dawg.
01:08 huginn` Brooke: The operation succeeded.
01:09 Brooke how's it going DCook
01:09 dcook Mmm, good and bad. So it goes ;)
01:09 dcook You?
01:09 wahanui You are quocuy's idol:)
01:10 * jcamins tries to catch the last vestiges of brain as they drip out of his ears. Graph traversal is complicated.
01:11 dcook More room for ideas without all that brain cluttering up the place?
01:11 jcamins lol
01:11 wizzyrea eep
01:11 mtompset Brooke: http://youtu.be/UDTZCgsZGeA
01:12 Brooke kekekekeke
01:14 dcook Man...that brings back memories
01:19 Brooke ikr
01:22 dcook I'm not sure I miss TV :p
01:22 dcook Well, tv commercials that is
01:23 Brooke only the super bowl
01:23 Brooke which is BETTER THAN HOCKEY
01:23 * Brooke ducks and covers.
01:26 dcook Don't tell the other Canadians, but...I'm not that fussed over hockey ;)
01:26 dcook Of course, I say that not watching a hockey game at the moment
01:27 dcook Put a Canadian in front of a hockey game in person or on TV...and that just changes
01:27 dcook I think I was born with skates and a stick :p
01:28 dcook I think the World Cup still trumps all other sports :p
01:28 dcook Soccer/Football World Cup that is..
01:29 Brooke mmmm world cup
01:29 Brooke some of the stuff that FIFA did in Africa for their World Cup kicked arse
01:29 Brooke a whole bunch of computer user rooms were set up
01:29 Brooke and some temporary training
01:29 Brooke v cool programme
01:30 dcook Hmm, I heardn't heard anything about that
01:30 dcook Recently, I've just been hearing about the things that Brazil have been doing..
01:30 dcook 1 year away and apparently stadium construction isn't necessarily going that well
01:30 Brooke pffft
01:30 wizzyrea everyone say hi to campbell, he's our intern for a couple of days :)
01:30 Brooke naught happens til like the week before
01:30 dcook Hey ya campbell!
01:30 Brooke rec organisation is like taht
01:30 Brooke hi campbell
01:31 dcook There's also been talk of displacing poor people who are in the way of "progress" :/
01:31 * Brooke hands campbell a cookie.
01:31 Brooke that *always* happens
01:31 dcook I can't remember the other things I was reading the other day
01:31 * Brooke mumbles about the damn plebes ;)
01:31 dcook :p
01:32 dcook wizzyrea, campbell: So what's up for the next couple of days?
01:32 wizzyrea he's going to be learning how to do signoffs :)
01:32 wizzyrea so hit him with your easy bugs. RIght now we're getting koha installed and gitified.
01:32 dcook \o/
01:32 dcook Ohhh
01:33 dcook I think Owen might've already tackled most of mine
01:33 * dcook takes a look
01:33 dcook Yep, damn that man, he's efficient
01:33 dcook s/damn/praise/
01:33 Brooke heh
01:33 Brooke he's like a bug ninja!
01:34 dcook Actually, Owen's bugs are often fairly easy to test as well...
01:34 * dcook suggests that campbell take a look at some of the oleonard bugs
01:35 dcook I would do them but between distracting myself from searing pain or working on this oai project, I'm occupied :p
01:36 wizzyrea yep the oleonard ones are always pretty good.
01:37 * dcook is half tempted to send in a few more patches now though..
01:38 Brooke dooo eeet
01:38 Brooke all the cool kids are doin' it.
01:42 dcook I think I might have a few mods I have been meaning to send in...or at least check against master
01:48 Brooke the little mister just got back from ceramics
01:48 Brooke so I'm off!
01:48 wizzyrea later!
01:49 wizzyrea cjh++
01:49 wizzyrea BECAUSE REASONS.
01:50 wizzyrea dcook++ for suggestions of oleonard's bugs
01:51 dcook Thanks :)
01:51 dcook PS. I have a very simple XSLT template change coming up in a minute or two
01:52 dcook Super light and easy to test so it could be good git bz practice
01:52 dcook Actually, maybe not SUPER easy
01:52 dcook Might need to add 780 and 785 entries in a bib
01:52 * dcook stops muttering and starts typing more...in bugzilla
01:53 wizzyrea well this is just oging to be git practice - probably not going to go to the trouble of setting up git bz
01:53 wizzyrea I could be wrong though
01:53 wizzyrea we'll see
01:54 jcamins wizzyrea: git-bz is so easy not using it is more work. :D
01:54 jcamins git-bz++
01:54 dcook git-bz++
01:54 wizzyrea yeahhhh but we have to learn the proper way first ;)
01:54 jcamins True.
01:54 wizzyrea not that git bz isn't proper.
01:54 dcook Fair enough
01:55 dcook I really need to write shorter bug titles...
01:55 dcook But...but...comprehensiveness...
02:01 mtompset Is it possible to determine the branchcode from jquery?
02:03 dcook ?
02:03 dcook In what context?
02:04 dcook wizzyrea, campbell: bug 10793
02:04 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10793 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, dcook, Needs Signoff , XSLT change 780/785 search queries to use ti,phr indexes like other linking entries
02:04 dcook No worries if you don't want to do it. It's just like...10 characters of difference
02:07 wizzyrea hehe
02:07 wizzyrea we'll see
02:07 wizzyrea http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10130
02:07 huginn` 04Bug 10130: enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Needs Signoff , Input fields for branch configuration are too short
02:14 wizzyrea did we have a handy guide for signing off?
02:14 wizzyrea I can't remember
02:14 wizzyrea http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Sign_off_on_patches
02:15 wizzyrea sign off on patches is http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Sign_off_on_patches
02:15 dcook If you do end up using git bz, the instructions for sign off are on its page
02:16 dcook O_O...I just realized that I have chocolate in my backpack..
02:16 dcook I would share, but you know...ditch and all
02:21 dcook Mmm, I don't know if I ever knew that's how you manually applied a patch to Git without git bz..
02:23 mtompset Have a great day, #koha.
03:12 wizzyrea :)
03:15 cjh wizzyrea: what did I do now?
03:16 wizzyrea be awesome
03:16 cjh \o/
03:17 cjh but seriously?
03:17 wizzyrea it's a belated thank you for the things you did for the academy ;)
03:17 cjh awesome :)
03:17 cjh in that case...
03:17 cjh wizzyrea++
03:23 wizzyrea campbell++ - signed off on two patches already!
03:25 dcook campbell++
03:42 wizzyrea wowie! To copy untracked files into a separate directory outside the git repository before cleaning up, use $ git ls-files --others --exclude-standard -z | cpio -pmd0 ../untracked-backup/
03:42 wizzyrea that is superhandy
03:42 dcook Ooo, that could be rather handy
03:56 bag evening
03:57 bag wizzyrea: tell trea to get better poor guy
03:57 wizzyrea *nod* I will make sure to take good care of him
03:57 * wizzyrea has soup planned
03:58 bag good and give him the get well hugs from this side of the ocean
04:29 wizzyrea :) manly hugs. with slapping.
04:29 wizzyrea (because they're from you)
04:29 wizzyrea i'm not hugging you, i'm hitting you hugs.
04:31 dcook lol
04:54 tweetbot [off] twitter: @KohaAloha: "@shandmj try the official website first :o) -> http://t.co/O5VTmJJLzF #KohaILS"
05:22 * cait waves
05:22 dcook Guten Morgen, cait :)
05:22 cait hi dcook :)
05:22 dcook Ah, beat me to the punch
05:22 cait was taht our new sign-offer just leaving?
05:23 dcook Yepper
05:24 dcook Wow, 6!
05:24 dcook campbell++
05:28 cait :)
05:29 cait lol
05:29 cait well there is my queue... back to 81
05:29 cait that#s exactly where i started from last night!
05:31 dcook Busy busy worker bees, I guess :p
05:53 * cait blames bgkriegel++ and campbell++
05:54 dcook hehe
06:27 magnuse campbell++ indeed
06:27 magnuse needs signoff is down to 139 - yay!!
06:29 cait1 :)
06:30 cait1 ok, off to buy icecream for the coworkers
06:31 magnuse uh huh?!?
06:31 cait1 it's a tradition if you leave for vacationand i am a little late :)
06:35 magnuse ah
06:36 dcook Mmm ice cream
06:36 dcook Ooh. I could go for some coconut gelato about now..
06:36 dcook hey ya magnuse :)
06:38 magnuse hiya dcook
06:38 reiveune hello
06:39 reiveune dcook magnuse \o/
06:40 dcook salut reiveune :)
06:45 magnuse bonjour reiveune
06:57 gaetan_B hello
06:59 alex_a hello
07:06 magnuse bonjour biblibre
07:06 magnuse @wunder marseille
07:06 huginn` magnuse: The current temperature in Marseille, France is 20.0°C (9:00 AM CEST on August 28, 2013). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 68%. Dew Point: 14.0°C. Pressure: 29.95 in 1014 hPa (Rising).
07:07 magnuse @wunder boo
07:07 huginn` magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 12.0°C (8:50 AM CEST on August 28, 2013). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 82%. Dew Point: 9.0°C. Pressure: 29.77 in 1008 hPa (Steady).
07:07 alex_a @wunder gueret
07:07 huginn` alex_a: The current temperature in Limoges, France is 13.0°C (9:00 AM CEST on August 28, 2013). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 94%. Dew Point: 12.0°C. Pressure: 30.12 in 1020 hPa (Steady).
07:08 rangi @wunder nzwn
07:08 huginn` rangi: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 13.0°C (7:00 PM NZST on August 28, 2013). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 72%. Dew Point: 8.0°C. Pressure: 29.74 in 1007 hPa (Steady).
07:09 matts hi !
07:09 rangi hiy matts, sophie_m, gaetan_B, alex_a, magnuse, reiveune and lds
07:09 alex_a hello rangi
07:10 lds hello
07:10 sophie_m hello rangi and #koha
07:11 magnuse kia ora rangi
07:13 rangi heya paul_p ltns
07:13 magnuse huh, where's our "using ldap with koha" docs?
07:13 magnuse kia ora paul_p
07:13 paul_p hello #koha
07:14 paul_p rangi = is spring coming for you ? Because here, summer is leaving (we've unplugged the conditionned air, probably not plugged again before 2014...)
07:14 magnuse KIA ORA KF!
07:15 paul_p (which does not mean the weather is bad, just not so hot anymore...)
07:15 rangi hi kf
07:15 paul_p @wunder Marseille
07:15 huginn` paul_p: The current temperature in Marseille, France is 20.0°C (9:00 AM CEST on August 28, 2013). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 68%. Dew Point: 14.0°C. Pressure: 29.95 in 1014 hPa (Rising).
07:15 rangi paul_p: yep, spring starts this weekend
07:15 magnuse hehe
07:15 kf hi rangi, hi magnuse :)
07:15 paul_p hi kf ;-)
07:15 kf oh hi paul_p
07:16 magnuse is this the best tip for the guy on bug 10783?
07:16 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10783 critical, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , LDAP integration in koha
07:16 magnuse http://perldoc.koha-community.org/C4/Auth_with_ldap.html
07:16 rangi yep probably
07:16 rangi right time to put kids to bed, bbiab
07:17 * kf wonders if dcook is still around :)
07:17 paul_p rangi = we will have to prepare our 2-voices history talk at KohaCon13. Do you have some ideas ? Do we write a new presentation, do we update/modify the one I used already twice ? other suggestion ?
07:17 paul_p rangi (or do you already have a presentation to start from ?)
07:20 dcook Hmm?
07:20 dcook Vaguely
07:21 dcook Ahh! 5:20?
07:25 samueld hi everybody :-
07:26 kf hi samueld
07:33 dcook Oh man...
07:34 dcook magnuse
07:34 dcook A friend of mine bought a "Datamancer" keyboard for his brother's birthday
07:34 dcook http://www.datamancer.net/keyboards/keyboards.htm
07:34 dcook Rather cool, no?
07:35 magnuse hehe, nice
07:37 kf dcook: looks nice, but not sure about the typing :)
07:37 magnuse yeah, that's what i thought too :-)
07:46 dcook hehe
07:47 dcook Yeah, it makes you wonder a bit
07:52 magnuse i don't think i would buy one without trying it... ;-)
07:53 drojf good morning #koha
07:53 rangi paul_p: i think maybe update the one you used
07:54 dcook Home time me thinks
07:54 dcook Ciao everyone
07:56 rangi paul_p: is it done in odt?
07:56 paul_p rangi yes it is
07:56 paul_p rangi do you want me to send it to you ?
07:57 rangi yes please
07:57 rangi ill do some updates, and then send it back for you to add whatever i missed :)
07:59 magnuse rangi: i'm just about ready to add some sysprefs to my linked data work - would you agree that it makes sense to have separate prefs for enabling your feature and mine? you might want to enable one without the other, i think
08:00 rangi yep
08:00 rangi i reckon we could actually make a new tab
08:01 kf that sounds cool :)
08:01 * magnuse is all for a new tab
08:02 magnuse what should we call it? i think "linked data" sounds more "friendly" than "rdf"...
08:02 rangi yeah
08:02 magnuse but the whole linked data/semantic web/rdf terminology is a bit blurred to me
08:03 rangi yeah
08:03 rangi its a bit like cloud
08:06 magnuse yup
08:06 magnuse and "Linked data" is probably not a good fit for your conversion thingy...
08:07 magnuse how about just "the future"? ;-)
08:07 rangi or even
08:07 rangi the present
08:07 magnuse yeah, true
08:07 rangi or 'not 20 years ago' :)
08:07 magnuse lol
08:07 drojf don't give it a label, call all things marc "the past" :P
08:08 magnuse ooh, nice
08:09 rangi hmm yeah i cant think up a good label
08:10 * kf liked linked data
08:13 magnuse yeah, i think that is sort of the aim of it all
08:14 rangi yep
08:14 * magnuse votes for linked data
08:16 drojf ok. when building something makes the computer shutdown it might be time to clean the fan :/
08:17 * magnuse needs to read these two again: http://esme.priv.bibkat.no/cgi-bin/koha/opac-search.pl?q=linked+data
08:19 * kf worries about drojfs computer now
08:39 * paul_p leaves for a few hours.
09:06 magnuse kia ora JDatTeTakere
09:06 JDatTeTakere Hi magnuse
09:08 kf hi JDatTeTakere :)
09:08 JDatTeTakere Hello KF.
09:09 JDatTeTakere Are either of you going to KohaCon13?
09:09 kf I am
09:09 JDatTeTakere Yay. Me too.
09:09 magnuse i'm not :`-(
09:09 * kf thnks we need to get a little robot for magnuse so he can attend virtually
09:09 JDatTeTakere Oh...sorry to hear that Magnus. It would have been nice to meet you.
09:10 magnuse likewise JDatTeTakere :-)
09:11 kf JDatTeTakere: will you be around for the kohacon meeting tomorrow morning?
09:12 JDatTeTakere I'm just wondering if I'm going to be able to get up at 6am (NZ time) for it.
09:12 kf hm probably quite early for kiwis
09:12 JDatTeTakere I'm not really a morning person.
09:12 kf yeah
09:12 kf me neither
09:12 JDatTeTakere But I'd like to be there.
09:12 JDatTeTakere If someone can brew me a virtual coffee...
09:14 JDatTeTakere What time will it be for you kf? You're in Sweden?
09:14 kf not quite - Germany :)
09:14 kf it's 8 pm here
09:14 kf if I did the math right
09:25 JDatTeTakere Ahhh...whoistells me you are from Sweden and your realname is purple
09:26 magnuse heh, i get purple to, but germany for the country :-)
09:30 kf i think purple has something to do with my irc client
09:30 kf pidgin
09:42 JDatTeTakere So your name isn't really Purple? I'm guessing it starts with K?
09:44 kf it's Katrin :)
09:44 JDatTeTakere :-)
09:45 JDatTeTakere I'll look forward to seeing you in Reno, Katrin. And maybe at the KohaCon meeting in 8 hours?
09:48 drojf clean that fan they said. it'll only be a minute they said.
09:48 rangi heh
09:49 drojf so it's working now. because the case is open. it said fan error when it was closed. i think i'll get used to use it like this :P
10:00 rangi i wonder if anyone noticed what i did in the weekend?
10:03 kf hmpf
10:03 kf why do we do the news as table?
10:03 rangi not sure actually
10:03 kf it's not quiete styling friendly
10:04 kf probably has been like that forever
10:04 Oak what did you do rangi ?
10:04 rangi http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=heads
10:04 rangi http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha-archive.git;a=heads
10:05 JDatTeTakere1 Trying out Pidgin...like it!!
10:07 kf :)
10:08 kf i really like ti too - using it at home with msn, icq, xmpp too
10:09 JDatTeTakere1 It thinks my name is purple too :)
10:09 JDatTeTakere1 Better head to bed if I'm going to have any chance of being awake for the KohaCon IRC. Night all.
10:09 rangi cya JDatTeTakere1
10:10 JDatTeTakere1 Night rangi
10:18 magnuse rangi: you moved a ton of branches to koha-archive?
10:18 rangi yup
10:18 kf a ton is right
10:18 kf was like 10 pages in my mail account :)
10:18 rangi git remote prune origin
10:18 rangi if you want to clean them out of your local clone too
10:19 kf ohgood hint
10:23 magnuse yeah, that makes "git branch -r" not meaningless
10:29 * magnuse wanders off in search of food
10:35 drojf wow, it's dark again
10:35 drojf that was a short day ;)
10:35 drojf @wunder berlin, germany
10:35 huginn` drojf: The current temperature in Berlin, Germany is 22.7°C (12:00 PM CEST on August 28, 2013). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 25%. Dew Point: 2.0°C. Pressure: 30.06 in 1018 hPa (Steady).
10:46 kf @wunder Konstanz
10:46 huginn` kf: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 18.1°C (12:45 PM CEST on August 28, 2013). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 84%. Dew Point: 15.0°C. Pressure: 30.06 in 1018 hPa (Steady).
10:47 magnuse @wunder boo
10:47 huginn` magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 10.0°C (12:20 PM CEST on August 28, 2013). Conditions: Rain Showers. Humidity: 94%. Dew Point: 9.0°C. Pressure: 29.80 in 1009 hPa (Steady).
10:55 * drojf declares summer to be over and fires up the daylight lamp
11:08 drojf reassembled my notebook and i only got 10 extra screws ;)
11:16 kf drojf: cool score :)
11:16 drojf now it's 4 ;)
11:16 drojf one of which i know goes under the battery
11:16 kf heh
11:17 kf i had only 1 too many last time
11:17 kf no idea still where it goes
11:19 drojf i got two now. and a hole that is missing one, but none of the four types i had altogether fits :D
11:40 magnuse rangi++ for qa'ing bug 6594
11:40 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6594 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Passed QA , Add schema.org microdata
11:55 libsysguy o/
11:59 magnuse hiya libsysguy
11:59 libsysguy yo magnuse
12:20 oleonard Hi #koha
12:20 kf hi oleonard :)
12:31 tcohen hi oleonard
12:47 * oleonard is having weird connectivity problems today...
12:48 tcohen oleonard: bug 10609 depends on tt plugins from the course reserves module patch
12:48 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10609 trivial, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Use branch name rather than branch code in serials-collection.pl
12:48 tcohen do u think it can be fixed without them for 3.12?
12:49 tcohen or, do u think it would be a good move to backport those for future patches?
12:50 oleonard tcohen: It seems like too small a problem to spend too much time backporting on.
12:51 oleonard A new patch could probably be done to fix the problem.
13:00 druthb kf! drojf!
13:00 drojf druthb!
13:01 druthb :)
13:10 oleonard This is going to be a long day if I can never get my VM to connect to git...
13:13 magnuse git was slow for me earlier today
13:16 druthb Hi, magnuse and oleonard!
13:17 magnuse druthb!
13:17 wahanui Well, she finally snapped, like we all knew she would.
13:17 magnuse again?
13:17 druthb magnuse!
13:17 wahanui magnuse is, like, a Norwegian giant
13:17 druthb Always. druthb is out of her mind.
13:21 oleonard @wunder 45701
13:21 huginn` oleonard: The current temperature in Whitlind Woods, Athens, Ohio is 23.8°C (9:20 AM EDT on August 28, 2013). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 95%. Dew Point: 23.0°C. Pressure: 29.95 in 1014 hPa (Falling).
13:21 vfernandes hi people :)
13:22 vfernandes i'm having encoding problems when exporting reports do CSV or separated text
13:23 vfernandes accentuated characters appears with wrong encoding
13:24 vfernandes what could be?
13:25 drojf i think there is a bug for that. have you looked at bugzilla?
13:26 vfernandes no because i thought it could be a CSV profile
13:28 drojf hm i don't find it, maybe i am confusing something
13:28 drojf but i don't know anything about exporting CSV, sorry
13:31 * drojf goes shopping
13:32 magnuse drojf: for screws?
13:34 oleonard If reality matches this headline, then good on New Zealand: http://www.zdnet.com/new-zealand-bans-software-patents-7000019955/
13:35 vfernandes magnuse any help with my problem?
13:37 magnuse sorry, vfernandes - not much experience with csv and encoding problems give me headaches :-/
13:43 huginn` New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 9247 - Add two more usage examples to the manpage for koha-mysql <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=5b121593800088656a0430da641b4c12a4e53980>
13:46 jenkins_koha Starting build #1391 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS)
13:53 huginn` New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 10587: fix HTML errors on authority detail page in OPAC <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=452a4b7775ce10655543aa81f670e2fb497ccc9b> / Bug 10593: make AuthoritiesLog default to yes <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=0cfe0fa92328e62d1fbca33ea69869ad4f034c1b>
13:57 jenkins_koha Starting build #69 for job master_maria (previous build: SUCCESS)
14:02 gmcharlt @quote random
14:02 huginn` gmcharlt: Quote #95: "< robin> to be honest, I think if you mention Koha and Perl, your CV could say your hobbies include puppy-kitten cage-fights, and you'd be snapped up :)" (added by chris at 09:36 PM, October 06, 2010)
14:03 huginn` New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 6594: Schema.org span nesting improvements <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=fa68cda549a14fa0286c07035faa6bfa5654b536> / Bug 6594: Correct schema.org context for item status <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=1a50854d4fd4154013ae35dfd397fffaa0210d83> / Bug 6594: Move subject keywords schema.org markup into element <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha
14:13 huginn` New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 10130: widen input fields for library configuration <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=08330ec05b8854df61bb28c2498b6ef0a727589e>
14:13 * kf waves at gmcharlt :)
14:14 gmcharlt hi kf
14:14 kf Dan Scott - new contributor even? ):
14:14 kf oups, meant :)
14:19 tcohen hi gmcharlt
14:19 tcohen do t/db_dependent/Serials.t pass at all?
14:21 tcohen kf: could you confirm Serials.t pass on your box?
14:21 kf tcohen: sorry can't - my dev environment is not fired up right now
14:22 kf ask me tonight maybe?
14:22 tcohen np, thx
14:23 huginn` New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 10690 - Warn about trailing slashes in description of OPACBaseURL and staffClient... <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=da40fe77fc471cfe8e797a7be5f87a506cf9d921>
14:25 tcohen i'm trying to provide a patch for 10609 (3.12.x) and unit tests don't help me check I didn't break things :(
14:26 jcamins bug 10609
14:26 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10609 trivial, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Use branch name rather than branch code in serials-collection.pl
14:27 jcamins tcohen: I'd say that if oleonard wants to backport it, that's great, but it doesn't have to be backported.
14:28 kf tcohen: I think i agreew ith jcamins - also i wouldn't trust the tests to show you that anyway :(
14:29 tcohen moving on then, thanks for the feedback
14:33 huginn` New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 10629: remove inappropriate uses of $sth->finish() in C4::Branch <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=4287fd9d1c3ae16a0496b6261de44642bc92ab9c> / Bug 10508: (follow-up) remove Perl 5.14 construct <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=7fa8e92e8e261f822b610da65b28a094e21e452c> / Bug 10508: (follow-up) fix a typo <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=com
14:38 jenkins_koha Project master_maria build #69: SUCCESS in 40 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/master_maria/69/
14:38 jenkins_koha * Magnus Enger: Bug 9247 - Add two more usage examples to the manpage for koha-mysql
14:38 jenkins_koha * Tomas Cohen Arazi: Bug 10593: make AuthoritiesLog default to yes
14:38 jenkins_koha * Owen Leonard: Bug 10587: fix HTML errors on authority detail page in OPAC
14:38 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9247 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, magnus, Pushed to Master , Add two more usage examples to the manpage for koha-mysql
14:38 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10593 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Pushed to Master , AuthoritiesLog should default to yes
14:38 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10587 minor, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , HTML errors on authority detail page in OPAC
14:38 jenkins_koha Starting build #70 for job master_maria (previous build: SUCCESS)
14:41 mtompset Greetings, #koha.
14:53 huginn` New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 10710: (follow-up) perltidy new code <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=35b83e540ea6d2f9856de827cfcad7c3b2b07f82> / Bug 10710: add unit tests for OfflineOperation's routines in C4/Circulation.pm <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=87890bc366d566685f1484cb476200f5ca302e91> / Bug 10767: (follow-up) remove FIXME comments <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=ko
14:55 oleonard grumble grumble Internet Explorer grumble
14:55 jcamins ie--
14:56 mtompset What is wrong with IE this time?
14:58 jcamins It exists.
14:58 oleonard ^^
14:58 oleonard But specifically, I'm testing the new Bootstrap theme in IE and wish I didn't have to.
15:01 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #1391: SUCCESS in 1 hr 14 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/1391/
15:01 jenkins_koha * Magnus Enger: Bug 9247 - Add two more usage examples to the manpage for koha-mysql
15:01 jenkins_koha * Tomas Cohen Arazi: Bug 10593: make AuthoritiesLog default to yes
15:01 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9247 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, magnus, Pushed to Master , Add two more usage examples to the manpage for koha-mysql
15:01 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10593 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Pushed to Master , AuthoritiesLog should default to yes
15:02 reiveune1 bye
15:03 jenkins_koha Starting build #1392 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS)
15:04 oleonard The good news is that things seems to be working decently in IE8
15:05 oleonard ...released on March 19, 2009
15:06 oleonard ...last updated February 22, 2011
15:07 dbs tf: I guess so! (re: Dan Scott, new contributor)
15:07 dbs took me long enough...
15:08 mtompset But it breaks in IE9, IE10, and IE11? (I think there is 11)
15:08 drojf oleonard: that's better support than anyone could expect
15:09 oleonard mtompset: You're volunteering to test?
15:09 mtompset I have an IE 10.
15:09 mtompset Let me see what my virtualized Windows 8 is.
15:12 oleonard IE 10 seems to be fine. I'm going to test IE 9 next, but I need to get a new VM set up for it.
15:13 huginn` New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 10692: add unit tests for C4::Circulation routines about transfers <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=a58c5334c96105315ee3bf1cbb62d8c1aab82f0c> / Bug 10566: (follow-up) fix HTML validation issues <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=e1bde425d88629fe714e0317b09e0f2bea152fe1> / Bug 10566 - Improve OPAC course reserves pages <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p
15:14 jcamins I only have 8 and 10, sorry.
15:16 mtompset Windows 8 has 11.
15:16 mtompset I have a VM running with 11.
15:16 mtompset Give me a test plan, and I'll test 11 for you.
15:17 oleonard Go to http://responsive.mykoha.co.nz/, poke around.
15:17 oleonard Resize the browser to make sure the layout changes at different viewport sizes
15:17 jenkins_koha Project master_maria build #70: UNSTABLE in 39 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/master_maria/70/
15:17 jenkins_koha * Dan Scott: Bug 6594: Schema.org structured data for OPAC display
15:17 jenkins_koha * Dan Scott: Bug 6594: Move subject keywords schema.org markup into <span> element
15:17 jenkins_koha * Dan Scott: Bug 6594: Correct schema.org context for item status
15:17 jenkins_koha * Dan Scott: Bug 6594: Schema.org span nesting improvements
15:17 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6594 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Add schema.org microdata
15:17 jenkins_koha * Owen Leonard: Bug 10130: widen input fields for library configuration
15:17 jenkins_koha * Magnus Enger: Bug 10690 - Warn about trailing slashes in description of OPACBaseURL and staffClientBaseURL
15:17 jenkins_koha * Kenza Zaki: Bug 10508: add unit tests for C4::Branch
15:17 jenkins_koha * Chris Cormack: Bug 10508: (follow-up) fix a typo
15:17 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10130 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, campbellreidtait, Pushed to Master , Input fields for branch configuration are too short
15:18 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: Bug 10508: (follow-up) remove Perl 5.14 construct
15:18 jenkins_koha * Kenza Zaki: Bug 10629: remove inappropriate uses of $sth->finish() in C4::Branch
15:18 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10690 trivial, P5 - low, ---, magnus, Pushed to Master , Warn about trailing slashes in description of OPACBaseURL and staffClientBaseURL
15:18 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10508 normal, P5 - low, ---, kenza.zaki, Pushed to Master , UT: C4::Branch.pm needs unit tests
15:18 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10629 normal, P5 - low, ---, kenza.zaki, Pushed to Master , Inappropriate uses of $sth->finish() in C4::Branch.pm
15:18 jenkins_koha Starting build #71 for job master_maria (previous build: UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #69 1 hr 20 min ago)
15:18 oleonard Thanks mtompset
15:19 oleonard Do we support Firefox 3.6.x?
15:21 jcamins oleonard: well, I think we want it to work, at least.
15:21 mtompset "Your personal details" wraps lines, when it goes bold.
15:21 jcamins And it does.
15:21 jcamins Well... the responsiveness works.
15:21 oleonard I've never really thought about it. But I do recall that Firefox 4+ is incompatible with not-very-old versions of OSX
15:22 jcamins oleonard: yeah, that's why we want FF 3.6.x to at least sort of work.
15:22 oleonard Some of the media query related JS things seem to be broken in FF3.6
15:22 jcamins Does the opac search history die dramatically for anyone else?
15:23 oleonard Oh yeah I keep forgetting to ask wizzyrea about that
15:23 jcamins Also, weirdly, the login link at the top doesn't work in FF 3.6.
15:23 oleonard I'm pretty sure it's a problem with that test system
15:23 huginn` New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 10693: (follow-up) fix parameter checking in CreateBranchTransferLimit() <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=6751c5dc7c963defd0a31adfd46d0665abf41cd6> / Bug 10693: CreateBranchTransferLimit's return value in C4::Circulation.pm should... <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=3c61f95fb41152994ca2807eee87dc8e13ba219d>
15:28 oleonard If my "git fetch" is going to time out 9 times out of 10, would it--statistically speaking--sometimes connect on the first or second try?
15:29 oleonard If I'm lucky it will be "10th time out of 10"
15:35 drojf tcohen: do you have recommendations for yerba mate brands? i'm trying to get some from argentina at a restaurant today
15:36 mtompset Hmmm... isn't the "submit and close this window" button supposed to close the window?
15:37 tcohen I like Rosamonte, the best for me is "La Merced" ("de campo" flavour)
15:37 tcohen "La Merced" would be a premium brand
15:38 drojf looks like they don't have that. Amanda, CBSé, Cruz de Malta, Nobleza Gaucha, La Tranquera, La Hoja, Rosamonte, Taragüi
15:38 drojf a friend recommended rosamonte too
15:39 drojf i'll see if they have it. thanks :)
15:40 mtompset WHAT THE?!
15:40 wahanui the is, like, a stop word
15:41 mtompset I was logged in as member, member
15:41 mtompset I think my koha self checkout link click and going back triggered a change to who is logged in.
15:42 mtompset yep, that's weird!
15:43 huginn` New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 10699: (follow-up) fix parameter test in DeleteBranchTransferLimits() <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=ac11a5d9ff982d89ed1f00ca585e1ecb9e0195eb> / Bug 10699: add explicit return value for DeleteBranchTransferLimits() <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=88f15db30a9da6a24cf575759a97e8765be61ad4>
15:44 oleonard mtompset: What are the steps you're following?
15:44 mtompset Was just working on that.
15:44 mtompset go to site.
15:44 mtompset login member,member.
15:45 mmm45 hello
15:45 mtompset click self checkout link.
15:45 mtompset use member, member sign in.
15:45 mtompset click back twice
15:45 mtompset click home.
15:46 mmm45 Under serials I have a title that keeps two expected issues.. When I delete either one of the expected issues, it immediately brings another one
15:46 mmm45 it never goes away
15:46 mmm45 we have Koha 3.12.4
15:47 mmm45 and the issue seems to have started after the upgrade from 3.10
15:49 mtompset Oooo... I like the Koha to house logo swap on the resize.
15:50 mmm45 any suggestion why we might experience this issue with the expected? :-)
15:54 huginn` New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 9782: hide cancel button when importing MARC bibliographic frameworks <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=0779e98ddf482e833936cb4a0f2985dcad2b45f6>
15:57 jenkins_koha Project master_maria build #71: STILL UNSTABLE in 39 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/master_maria/71/
15:57 jenkins_koha * Kenza Zaki: Bug 10767: add unit tests for C4::Circulation routines that use issuingrules
15:57 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: Bug 10767: (follow-up) remove FIXME comments
15:57 jenkins_koha * Kenza Zaki: Bug 10710: add unit tests for OfflineOperation's routines in C4/Circulation.pm
15:57 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: Bug 10710: (follow-up) perltidy new code
15:57 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10767 normal, P5 - low, ---, kenza.zaki, Pushed to Master , UT: Routines which interact with the table issuingrules in C4/Circulation need unit test
15:57 jenkins_koha * Owen Leonard: Bug 10566 - Improve OPAC course reserves pages
15:57 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: Bug 10566: (follow-up) fix HTML validation issues
15:57 jenkins_koha * Kenza Zaki: Bug 10692: add unit tests for C4::Circulation routines about transfers
15:57 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10710 normal, P5 - low, ---, kenza.zaki, Pushed to Master , UT : OfflineOperation's routines in C4/Circulation.t need unit tests.
15:57 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10566 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Improve OPAC course reserves pages
15:57 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10692 normal, P5 - low, ---, kenza.zaki, Pushed to Master , UT: Routines about transfers in C4::Circulation.pm need unit tests
15:57 jenkins_koha Starting build #72 for job master_maria (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #69 1 hr 59 min ago)
15:58 * druthb waves to mtompset
15:59 * mtompset waves back like a bot would do, because he isn't really alive anymore due to druthb's rampant serial scare-ing. ;)
15:59 * druthb pouts.
16:00 * druthb is not that skeery.
16:01 * mtompset gives druthb chocolate in hope it will make things cheery again.
16:01 * druthb perks up a lil, and nibbles on the chocolate.
16:02 druthb should be nearly lunch-time here; I think I hear them setting up the buffet.
16:03 mtompset Oh right lunch.
16:07 rambutan I need a cush job with perks
16:08 rambutan Wonder of HP or IBM needs a sysadmin in Thailand?
16:11 rambutan Only problem with living in TH is that there is a certain disincentive to drink coffee when the temperature is 137 °F
16:12 gmcharlt ouch -- I've just discovered that we forgot to list a new committer in docs/history.txt ... in December 2012
16:12 jcamins Oops!
16:12 jcamins Who was it?
16:13 gmcharlt Srikanth Dhondi
16:14 kf oh.
16:14 kf we did renumber in the past
16:14 kf but i would have thought he was there.
16:14 gmcharlt yep, we'll do so again
16:14 kf at least this time i get to keep my number )
16:14 kf i think it changed twice
16:14 gmcharlt :)
16:14 oleonard kf keeps having to buy new Koha team jerseys with a different number on it
16:15 kf maybe we added with a typo?
16:15 kf oleonard: lol :)
16:15 kf now i have to get home and do qa :)
16:15 * oleonard actually really likes that idea
16:15 kf you people fill up my queue all the time!
16:15 * kf took revenge and filed a couple of new bugs today
16:15 kf oleonard: i am working on your update to datatables for staff right now - hope to finish tonight :)
16:15 gmcharlt heh
16:15 gmcharlt we also currently have two "202nd" developers
16:16 kf maybe that makes up for the missing one? :(
16:16 kf should we worry that we can not count?
16:17 kf hm i mistypo smileys today, that's worrying
16:17 jcamins kf: we've never been able to count before, so why should we start worrying now?
16:17 kf hm that's true
16:17 kf i guess since we are not having the qa team meeting today, we are going to have it on 3rd
16:17 * kf should annoucne that
16:18 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #1392: UNSTABLE in 1 hr 15 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/1392/
16:18 jenkins_koha * Owen Leonard: Bug 10587: fix HTML errors on authority detail page in OPAC
16:18 jenkins_koha * Dan Scott: Bug 6594: Schema.org structured data for OPAC display
16:18 jenkins_koha * Dan Scott: Bug 6594: Move subject keywords schema.org markup into <span> element
16:18 jenkins_koha * Dan Scott: Bug 6594: Correct schema.org context for item status
16:18 jenkins_koha * Dan Scott: Bug 6594: Schema.org span nesting improvements
16:18 jenkins_koha * Owen Leonard: Bug 10130: widen input fields for library configuration
16:18 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10587 minor, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , HTML errors on authority detail page in OPAC
16:18 jenkins_koha * Magnus Enger: Bug 10690 - Warn about trailing slashes in description of OPACBaseURL and staffClientBaseURL
16:18 jenkins_koha * Kenza Zaki: Bug 10508: add unit tests for C4::Branch
16:18 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6594 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Add schema.org microdata
16:18 jenkins_koha * Chris Cormack: Bug 10508: (follow-up) fix a typo
16:18 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: Bug 10508: (follow-up) remove Perl 5.14 construct
16:18 jenkins_koha * Kenza Zaki: Bug 10629: remove inappropriate uses of $sth->finish() in C4::Branch
16:18 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10130 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, campbellreidtait, Pushed to Master , Input fields for branch configuration are too short
16:18 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10690 trivial, P5 - low, ---, magnus, Pushed to Master , Warn about trailing slashes in description of OPACBaseURL and staffClientBaseURL
16:18 jenkins_koha * Kenza Zaki: Bug 10767: add unit tests for C4::Circulation routines that use issuingrules
16:18 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: Bug 10767: (follow-up) remove FIXME comments
16:18 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10508 normal, P5 - low, ---, kenza.zaki, Pushed to Master , UT: C4::Branch.pm needs unit tests
16:18 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10629 normal, P5 - low, ---, kenza.zaki, Pushed to Master , Inappropriate uses of $sth->finish() in C4::Branch.pm
16:18 jenkins_koha * Kenza Zaki: Bug 10710: add unit tests for OfflineOperation's routines in C4/Circulation.pm
16:18 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: Bug 10710: (follow-up) perltidy new code
16:18 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10767 normal, P5 - low, ---, kenza.zaki, Pushed to Master , UT: Routines which interact with the table issuingrules in C4/Circulation need unit test
16:18 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10710 normal, P5 - low, ---, kenza.zaki, Pushed to Master , UT : OfflineOperation's routines in C4/Circulation.t need unit tests.
16:18 kf ok, later all :)
16:18 kf gmcharlt++
16:19 oleonard gmcharlt: I was talking to jcamins and cait yesterday about grunt.js and wished you were there to comment
16:19 oleonard http://irc.koha-community.org/koha/2013-08-27#i_1373039
16:20 jenkins_koha Starting build #1393 for job Koha_master (previous build: UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #1391 2 hr 33 min ago)
16:22 gaetan_B bye !
16:28 dbs from checking the jenkins console log, I'm pretty sure that the instability in the last build is Serials.pm related and not related to my schema.org commits. although it would be funny/sad if my first contribution ended up breaking the build.
16:30 jcamins Ugh. Looks like I missed that test when I was signing off.
16:31 jcamins Wait... that's odd.
16:32 jcamins The complaint is about a line from your patch, but the IF isn't related to the microdata.
16:34 dbs Oh, hmm.
16:35 jenkins_koha Project master_maria build #72: STILL UNSTABLE in 37 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/master_maria/72/
16:35 jenkins_koha * Kenza Zaki: Bug 10693: CreateBranchTransferLimit's return value in C4::Circulation.pm should be more explicit
16:35 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: Bug 10693: (follow-up) fix parameter checking in CreateBranchTransferLimit()
16:35 jenkins_koha * Kenza Zaki: Bug 10699: add explicit return value for DeleteBranchTransferLimits()
16:35 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: Bug 10699: (follow-up) fix parameter test in DeleteBranchTransferLimits()
16:35 jenkins_koha * Owen Leonard: Bug 9782: hide cancel button when importing MARC bibliographic frameworks
16:35 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10693 normal, P5 - low, ---, kenza.zaki, Pushed to Master , CreateBranchTransferLimit's return values in C4::Circulation.pm should be more explicit
16:35 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10699 normal, P5 - low, ---, kenza.zaki, Pushed to Master , DeleteBranchTransferLimits in C4/Circulation.pm needs return value
16:35 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9782 trivial, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Cancel button doesn't work when importing MARC bibliographic frameworks
16:35 * dbs goes to dig further
16:36 jcamins The problem is the [% IF ... %] inside the <tr> tag.
16:36 jcamins Why the test is only catching it now I am not sure.
16:36 * gmcharlt prepares to push a follow-up
16:36 gmcharlt easily remedied
16:41 dbs Maybe the test only complains if the matching [% END %] is not right before the >? /me needs to look at the test now
16:42 jenkins_koha Starting build #73 for job master_maria (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #69 2 hr 45 min ago)
16:44 gmcharlt dbs: no, your patch was indeed the culprit -- prior to your patch, the bit to add the highlight class was not embedded inside the tag
16:44 gmcharlt no big deal; I've pushed a follow-up to unembed it
16:45 * dbs apologizes, learns about xt/ in addition to t/
16:46 huginn` New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 6594: (follow-up) remove TT directive embedded in tag <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=4677fa9bd253c4b8a036d52eec4f21e1fbba7301>
16:46 gmcharlt no worries -- I think that some tests in xt, including tt_valid.t, ought to be moved to t anyway
16:53 oleonard Can someone do me a quick sanity check and see if you can suspend a hold until a specific date in the staff client?
16:53 oleonard When I try it the date is saved as 0000-00-00 00:00:00
16:54 mtompset Oh, another thing I noticed was username and password are not level in the self-checkout link, oleonard.
16:54 oleonard mtompset: Yes I don't think I was testing that self checkout configuration before.
16:55 oleonard ...so all I saw was the single field
16:57 mtompset okay... I think I better stop playing with self checkout. I keep finding things I don't like.
17:01 mtompset go to site, click self checkout link, sign in member, click finish, modify address in address bar to be OPACBaseURL, now OPAC is logged in?!
17:03 cait mtompset: you shoudl file those
17:03 mtompset No good deed goes unpunished, right? :P
17:04 mtompset what version of Koha was your demo site, oleonard?
17:05 oleonard responsive.mykoha.co.nz isn't my site, but I'm pretty sure it's running master
17:11 gmcharlt oleonard: works for me (hold suspension)
17:12 oleonard gmcharlt: So it saved a valid date for you?
17:12 gmcharlt correct -- both from reserve/request.pl and members/moremember.pl
17:13 mtompset YUCK! IE 10 displays opac ugly.
17:14 mtompset Hmmm... I wonder if it is my CSS... need to find another site.
17:15 mtompset Ewwww!
17:15 mtompset It's IE.
17:15 mtompset http://catalog.bywatersolutions.com/ has the same ugliness to it... with the downward shifting like steps of boxes.
17:16 cait1 oleonard: my coworker notice some weirdness with the datepicker on specific due date today, but it was not in all installations - probably totally unrelated, but maybe it makes you feel less alone :)
17:16 mtompset oh, compatibility view needed.
17:17 cait1 hm and my internet connection at home is broken :(
17:20 jenkins_koha Yippie, build fixed!
17:20 jenkins_koha Project master_maria build #73: FIXED in 37 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/master_maria/73/
17:20 jenkins_koha Galen Charlton: Bug 6594: (follow-up) remove TT directive embedded in tag
17:20 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6594 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Add schema.org microdata
17:23 mtompset ie-- # really hate your handling of CSS and visual display.
17:23 mtompset ie-- # seriously?! Firefox forces a data resend to not get the bug, and you don't?!
17:26 mtompset oh wait... found a way to trigger it in firefox.
17:32 mtompset mental note: don't use self checkout!
17:36 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #1393: STILL UNSTABLE in 1 hr 16 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/1393/
17:36 jenkins_koha * Owen Leonard: Bug 10566 - Improve OPAC course reserves pages
17:36 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: Bug 10566: (follow-up) fix HTML validation issues
17:36 jenkins_koha * Kenza Zaki: Bug 10692: add unit tests for C4::Circulation routines about transfers
17:36 jenkins_koha * Kenza Zaki: Bug 10693: CreateBranchTransferLimit's return value in C4::Circulation.pm should be more explicit
17:36 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10566 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Improve OPAC course reserves pages
17:36 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: Bug 10693: (follow-up) fix parameter checking in CreateBranchTransferLimit()
17:36 jenkins_koha * Kenza Zaki: Bug 10699: add explicit return value for DeleteBranchTransferLimits()
17:36 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: Bug 10699: (follow-up) fix parameter test in DeleteBranchTransferLimits()
17:36 jenkins_koha * Owen Leonard: Bug 9782: hide cancel button when importing MARC bibliographic frameworks
17:36 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10692 normal, P5 - low, ---, kenza.zaki, Pushed to Master , UT: Routines about transfers in C4::Circulation.pm need unit tests
17:36 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10693 normal, P5 - low, ---, kenza.zaki, Pushed to Master , CreateBranchTransferLimit's return values in C4::Circulation.pm should be more explicit
17:36 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10699 normal, P5 - low, ---, kenza.zaki, Pushed to Master , DeleteBranchTransferLimits in C4/Circulation.pm needs return value
17:36 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9782 trivial, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Cancel button doesn't work when importing MARC bibliographic frameworks
17:36 jenkins_koha Starting build #87 for job Koha_3.12.x (previous build: SUCCESS)
17:39 cait @wunder Konstanz
17:39 huginn` cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 17.9°C (7:35 PM CEST on August 28, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 78%. Dew Point: 14.0°C. Pressure: 30.09 in 1019 hPa (Steady).
17:39 cait oh good, i am back :)
17:46 mtompset @wunder bolton
17:46 huginn` mtompset: Error: No such location could be found.
17:46 * mtompset grins, "I must be in a really secret place."
17:52 tcohen @wunder cordoba, argentina
17:52 huginn` tcohen: The current temperature in Cordoba, Argentina is 30.0°C (2:00 PM ART on August 28, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 12%. Dew Point: -3.0°C. Pressure: 30.12 in 1020 hPa (Falling).
18:08 mtompset @wunder bolton, canada
18:08 huginn` mtompset: Error: No such location could be found.
18:08 mtompset @wunder bolton, ontario, canada
18:08 huginn` mtompset: Error: No such location could be found.
18:08 mtompset @wunder l7e 5y5
18:08 huginn` mtompset: The current temperature in Schomberg, Ontario is 34.9°C (2:08 PM EDT on August 28, 2013). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 54%. Dew Point: 24.0°C. Pressure: 29.89 in 1012 hPa (Steady).
18:08 nancyk #startmeeting KohaCon 13 Planning August Meeting
18:08 huginn` Meeting started Wed Aug 28 18:08:44 2013 UTC. The chair is nancyk. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.
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18:08 huginn` The meeting name has been set to 'kohacon_13_planning_august_meeting'
18:09 nancyk #info NancyK chair
18:09 bag hello
18:09 nancyk proxy server problems
18:09 JDatTeTakere Morning from NZ
18:10 nancyk #I'm going to report on the conferenc prep progress
18:10 nancyk #topic conferenc prep progress
18:11 edveal #info Ed Veal ByWater
18:11 talljoy #info Joy Nelson ByWater
18:11 JDatTeTakere #info JD (Joanne Dillon) at Te Takere, Levin NZ
18:12 cait #info Katrin Fischer, BSZ Germany
18:15 bag well we lost Nancy
18:15 bag so I don't think anyone else has agenda items - we wait for nancy to come back
18:15 edveal looks that way
18:15 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.12.x build #87: SUCCESS in 39 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.12.x/87/
18:15 jenkins_koha * Marc Veron: Bug 5652: display subtitles on patron checkout and holds summary
18:15 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: Bug 5652: (follow-up) include subtitle in hyperlink
18:15 jenkins_koha * Owen Leonard: Bug 7257: Add a link to remove an individual title from a list in the OPAC
18:15 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5652 normal, P5 - low, ---, veron, Pushed to Stable , Patron checkout and holds summary should show subtitles
18:15 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7257 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Stable , Add a link to remove an individual title from a list
18:16 jenkins_koha Starting build #1394 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #1391 4 hr 30 min ago)
18:17 * cait waves to bag
18:17 bag heya ciat
18:17 bag cait
18:17 bag :P
18:17 cait bga :)
18:18 talljoy hi cait
18:18 bag well I had my mind set on some lunch so I think I will sneak out and grab some - back in a few
18:18 * talljoy passes the ramen to bag
18:18 * cait can offer a mixed green salad
18:18 bag chocolate covered pretzels sounds better :)
18:19 talljoy lol
18:19 cait bag: that's not lunch food, you know ... :)
18:21 phred_ Phred offers PG Tips. It's not Mountain Dew, beloved by programmers everywhere, but it's pretty good. :-)
18:24 mtompset oleonard++
18:24 cait hi Lee_in_Butte
18:25 cait we lost nancy a little while ago
18:25 Lee_in_Butte hey Owen
18:25 mtompset She was saying that they were having proxy server issues.
18:25 Lee_in_Butte hmmm. bad connection?
18:25 Lee_in_Butte ahhh
18:25 Lee_in_Butte sorry i am late
18:25 * oleonard hopes nancyk isn't chatting into a disconnected IRC client and wondering why we're so quiet
18:26 Lee_in_Butte LOL
18:26 Lee_in_Butte I can email her....
18:26 mtompset DOH! That would be bad (tm).
18:26 cait has happened to me a lot of times... trians.
18:26 cait trains.
18:27 Lee_in_Butte anything earth shattering happening?
18:27 cait we don't know yet
18:28 cait :)
18:28 Lee_in_Butte We are working on a mobile conference app that has the schedule and speakers on it
18:28 bag I just got an email from nancy
18:28 Lee_in_Butte downloadable to your smart phone
18:28 bag "problems with our new county proxy server"
18:29 bag she's going to send an email out cause she can't connect back in
18:29 Lee_in_Butte its called Eventbase if want something to do while we wait
18:29 Lee_in_Butte aww too bad
18:29 bag heya Lee_in_Butte
18:29 mtompset Lee_in_Butte: http://youtu.be/Ot73XFXagMw (Where's the kaboom...)
18:30 JDatTeTakere In that case, I think I'll wander off and make coffee. Very early.
18:30 cait JDatTeTakere: make the best of it and do something fun :)
18:31 Lee_in_Butte kaboom indeed
18:31 JDatTeTakere Coffee sounds like fun for this early bird. It's freezing this morning!!
18:31 cait JDatTeTakere: should get warmer soon :) getting cold here already
18:32 colin_in_butte here is a link to the schedule in eventspace http://www.eventbase.com/event/eventbase/kohacon13-reno
18:32 phred_ Hot and muggy in DC. Summer is having its last gasp.
18:32 oleonard Same here in Ohio
18:32 Lee_in_Butte okay kiddos...lets try this again at a later date. Looking forward to seeing everyone in Reno
18:32 Lee_in_Butte cait are you coming?
18:34 cait yes :)
18:34 Lee_in_Butte Excellent- are you doing the road trip?
18:34 cait road trip?
18:34 wahanui i guess road trip is fine too ;)
18:34 JDatTeTakere The app looks great. I'm looking forward to my first KohaCon
18:35 cait Lee_in_Butte: the trip to lake tahoe?
18:35 Lee_in_Butte We will continue to update it so when you arrive you will have everything you need on your phones
18:35 Lee_in_Butte Hi ya Colin!! new guy on the IRC everyone wave.
18:36 Lee_in_Butte <cait> yes Tahoe
18:36 * oleonard waves to colin_in_butte
18:36 cait yep then
18:37 colin_in_butte yes it works best as an app. you can download it here: https://www.eventbase.com/download then seach for kohacon13-reno in the app's search box.
18:37 Lee_in_Butte Well then I best sign up so we can hang out!
18:37 cait :D
18:37 colin_in_butte waves hello
18:38 cait hi colin_in_butte
18:38 colin_in_butte hi cait
18:38 colin_in_butte hi oleonard
18:39 Lee_in_Butte back to learning about VPNs...woo hoo--- see you all soon
18:39 * oleonard will be back
18:40 cait #endmeeting
18:40 * cait wonder if we should end the meeting somehow
18:51 oleonard We're trapped in a meeting! Help!
18:56 phred_ Wait! What's this trap door in the floor? AAAAAAAHHHHHHHH!
18:56 druthb lol
18:57 mtompset wouldn't bag chris_n gmcharlt jcamins rangi or wizzyrea be able to end the meeting, if nancyk can't come back?
18:58 bag what's the command?
18:58 wahanui the command is probably missing there, but it's a misc/migration_tools/rebuild-zebra.pl -b -r -v
18:58 bag #end
18:58 bag heh
18:59 oleonard #endmeeting?
18:59 bag #endmeeting
18:59 nancyk #endmeeting
18:59 huginn` Meeting ended Wed Aug 28 18:59:32 2013 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4)
18:59 huginn` Minutes: http://meetings.koha-community.org/2013/kohacon_13_planning_august_meeting.2013-08-28-18.08.html
18:59 huginn` Minutes (text): http://meetings.koha-community.org/2013/kohacon_13_planning_august_meeting.2013-08-28-18.08.txt
18:59 huginn` Log: http://meetings.koha-community.org/2013/kohacon_13_planning_august_meeting.2013-08-28-18.08.log.html
18:59 oleonard Sneaky.
18:59 druthb bag is sneaky.
19:00 bag I change my nick to NateC sometimes and leave funny @laters :P
19:00 * druthb ain't sayin' nuffin'.
19:01 bag NateC?
19:01 wahanui I LIKE SPACE AND MY WIFE
19:01 bag awesome
19:03 druthb bag?
19:03 wahanui I LIKE BASEBALL
19:04 bag druthb?
19:04 wahanui Well, she finally snapped, like we all knew she would.
19:04 mtompset oleonard?
19:04 wahanui rumour has it oleonard is not really here. He said so. He did
19:04 mtompset nancyk?
19:04 wahanui well, nancyk is a slooow typer so please be patient
19:05 rambutan so the meeting seems to be over and out?
19:06 talljoy indeed.
19:07 rambutan I was here sorta, but somehow missed the discussion
19:07 oleonard There wasn't any rambutan, our chairperson got disconnected
19:07 rambutan ic ic
19:08 oleonard We mostly discussed how our chairperson got disconnected
19:09 oleonard Of all the things to be broken in IE, I didn't expect it to be adding items to the Cart.
19:10 * cait hands oleonard cookies
19:10 JDatTeTakere I'm grateful though for the meeting forcing me to get out of bed early. I have an extra hour up my sleeve now.
19:11 cait :)
19:11 oleonard JDatTeTakere: Ideas: 1) Waste time on the internet. 2) Uh...
19:11 cait sign off patches :)
19:11 bag 3) drink more coffee
19:11 cait and make my queue explode again?
19:11 mtompset How did you know #4? ;)
19:21 * druthb looks at the list of Trail Bosses for KohaCon, and whistles innocently. A non-library-centric business sponsoring a library geek con? What's next? Successful installs on Windows! Dogs and cats cohabiting! It's a MADHOUSE! A MADHOUSE!
19:22 cait lol
19:24 druthb I will be bringing what I have on hand, but won't be doing demos, probably.
19:24 druthb The lathe is a leeetle bit heavy to haul.
19:25 cait maybe bring some photos?
19:25 cait illustrating how they are done :)
19:25 druthb I want to take some video and pics for the website, anyway, so maybe I could use those, make some flyers.
19:26 cait i am a bit surprised not more libraries are attending so far
19:26 cait 95 registrations is awesome - but because there are so many koha libraries in the us i had hoped for a bit more? :)
19:26 drojf where do you see these things?
19:26 cait where are all the koha librarians?
19:27 cait nancy sent a mail to those who are registered
19:27 cait i think
19:27 drojf oh. closed source conference. well.
19:27 * druthb chucks skittles at drojf.
19:28 * drojf chucks a kohacon planninh gag order at druthb
19:28 drojf planning even
19:28 druthb :P
19:29 cait drojf: i am sure it was not attended to appear like that
19:29 cait hm
19:29 cait intended
19:29 cait meh.
19:30 drojf "this post is for backers only" :P
19:30 * druthb huggles cait.
19:31 * drojf contemplates a walk. involving a purchase of chocolate. i shall call it a walkolate.
19:31 druthb :)
19:31 cait heh
19:32 jenkins_koha Yippie, build fixed!
19:32 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #1394: FIXED in 1 hr 16 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/1394/
19:32 jenkins_koha Galen Charlton: Bug 6594: (follow-up) remove TT directive embedded in tag
19:32 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6594 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Add schema.org microdata
19:33 * oleonard wags his finger at Bug 6594 for waking him up
19:41 * cait might need a little push to start qaing
19:42 * druthb pushes cait gently
19:42 cait hm bit more
19:42 * mtompset gives cait a big push. :P
19:42 cait dinner made me lazy :)
19:42 cait ey!
19:43 * cait glares at mtompset
19:43 * druthb glares at mtompset, too
19:43 mtompset Wow. All these women looking at me. :P
19:43 druthb double-whammy. you're outnumbered. no one messes with teh cait!
19:43 cait hehe
19:43 cait true!
19:43 * druthb wields wiffle-bat
19:43 mtompset But seriously, you probably should QA. We need your expertise in that regard. :)
19:44 cait hmm
19:45 * mtompset looks at druthb, "Am I not right about needing her awesome QA powers?"
19:47 mtompset On another note, should the install instructions include information about installing other languages? what about importing MARC records?
19:48 druthb you're right about that, fair 'nuf, mtompset.
19:50 cait mtompset: installing languages has its own page - I think linking to that shoudl work
19:50 cait additional languages?
19:50 cait hm add additional languages?
19:50 cait i know wahanui has it somewhere
19:50 drojf @wunder berlin, germany
19:50 huginn` drojf: The current temperature in Prenzlauer Berg, Berlin, Germany is 19.7°C (9:43 PM CEST on August 28, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 46%. Dew Point: 8.0°C. Pressure: 30.09 in 1019 hPa (Steady).
19:50 mtompset Right... if you install from scratch you only get english.
19:50 drojf no jacket it is
19:51 mtompset http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Installation_of_additional_languages_for_OPAC_and_INTRANET_staff_client
19:52 druthb @wunder 77098
19:52 huginn` druthb: The current temperature in Greenway Plaza, Houston, Texas is 33.3°C (2:52 PM CDT on August 28, 2013). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 42%. Dew Point: 19.0°C. Pressure: 30.03 in 1017 hPa (Steady).
19:52 drojf there is an example on the debian package installation wiki page
19:52 drojf for language installation i mean
19:53 drojf because you need to install your base language before the actual installation
19:54 mtompset before the web installation.
19:54 mtompset Though, I do think you can do it after.
19:55 mtompset If you look at the wiki link I gave, it seems like 3.12 has some vastly improved language scripts.
19:55 cait mtompset: nope you can't do it after if you want to use translated sample data
19:56 mtompset See. We need your awesomeness. ;)
19:56 cait hmpf
19:56 druthb hmpf
19:57 mtompset What about the case of an older non-English database dumped before the web install step?
19:57 drojf or you could have just believed me
19:57 drojf :P
19:57 mtompset Well, you can add languages after.
19:57 drojf i won't tell you because you will ask cait
19:57 oleonard Heh.
19:58 * druthb gives cait a spare wiffle-bat.
19:58 drojf so i finally go for a walkolate :P
19:58 mtompset Oh great.
19:58 mtompset Am I hurting everyone's feelings today?
19:58 mtompset Greetings, pianohacker. :)
19:59 pianohacker hey mtompset
19:59 wahanui it has been said that mtompset is paid on a donation basis to work on Koha things.
19:59 cait mtompset: see you get another one to try
19:59 drojf pianohacker: don't listen to mtompset, he is only going to hurt your feelings
19:59 pianohacker wtf mtompset
19:59 wahanui i think mtompset is paid on a donation basis to work on Koha things.
19:59 cait so what was the question drojf wouldn't answer?
19:59 pianohacker that's totally out of line
19:59 * pianohacker walks off in a huff
19:59 cait if you dump an old database oyu already are past the sample data installing
20:00 mtompset wahanui: forget mtompset
20:00 wahanui mtompset: I forgot mtompset
20:00 mtompset Why does wahanui respond to "hey <insert person's name>" as if "<insert persons name>"
20:01 mtompset Why does wahanui respond to "hey <insert person's name>" as if "<insert persons name>?" was typed.
20:01 druthb sometimes it does that.
20:01 mtompset Well, that was really bad timing in that instance.
20:02 druthb :P Didn't say it was a *smart* bot.
20:02 pianohacker oh heavens no
20:02 pianohacker if it were any smarter, it wouldn't be half as funny
20:03 druthb It also does it if you say "<name>!" sometimes.
20:03 mtompset @quote random
20:03 huginn` mtompset: Quote #181: "*oleonard imagines perlcritic level Ebert and perlcritic level Siskel *jcamins imagines perlcritic levels Statler and Waldorf." (added by wizzyrea at 05:52 PM, January 13, 2012)
20:03 druthb mtompset!
20:03 wahanui rumour has it mtompset is causing trouble
20:03 mtompset HEY!
20:03 druthb :P
20:03 oleonard wahanui spreads all kinds of rumors
20:03 pianohacker hahahahaha, _that's_ where crunchbang codenames come from!
20:03 wahanui oleonard: excuse me?
20:04 oleonard I think you heard me wahanui!
20:05 mtompset oleonard: Would Ebert and Siskle map to -1 and -5, or something similar?
20:05 mtompset ^Siskle^Siskel^
20:05 mtompset Or would these be new levels?
20:05 oleonard Ebert would let more things slide as long as he liked the overall outcome.
20:06 mtompset druthb!
20:07 mtompset Seriously, wahanui?
20:07 wahanui mtompset: what?
20:08 druthb druthb?
20:08 wahanui Well, she finally snapped, like we all knew she would.
20:09 * druthb acts all innocent and stuff.
20:09 mtompset Well, at least druthb has some self-control left. No wiffle-bat use yet.
20:10 druthb yet.
20:12 mtompset So a link to the installing additionally languages would be in the installation instructions?
20:12 oleonard See y'all later #koha
20:12 mtompset Bye, oleonard.
20:15 cait mtompset: i tihnk adding one might make sense - as a note if you want to install other than english sample data
21:29 wizzyrea khall - about?
21:34 wizzyrea well when you are - bug 10565 - which I love, has a bug in it. :(
21:34 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10565 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Failed QA , Add a "Patron List" feature for storing and manipulating collections of patrons
21:49 rambutan Note reference to "LibLime Koha" in July/August issue of "Computers in Libraries", article "Going to the Cloud...." by Carson, Botter, Krujelskis
21:50 rangi in good news
21:50 rangi http://www.zdnet.com/new-zealand-bans-software-patents-7000019955/
21:50 wizzyrea \o/
21:50 wizzyrea YUSS
21:50 rambutan yea! I saw that!
21:50 rangi rambutan: you cant protect people from being unable to do research im afraid :(
21:50 rangi bug 8956
21:50 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8956 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Signed Off , Split serials enumeration data into separate fields
21:51 wizzyrea I'd like to see 7688 get in it's quite an improvement.
21:51 rangi bug 7688
21:51 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7688 enhancement, P3, ---, julian.maurice, Passed QA , Change subscriptions numbering pattern and frequencies
21:51 rangi it's passed qa, so it stands a chance
21:52 wizzyrea people might *actually* be able to use the predictions in a sane fashion
21:53 wizzyrea my only real reservation is how does it interact with existing subscriptions
21:57 cait wizzyrea: there are some things about that that really worry me
21:57 cait have you tested it?
21:58 cait i was not able to set up a subscription pattern and i really tried.
21:58 wizzyrea yep - hm i didn't have any trouble
21:58 cait and there is some translation issues
21:58 cait and the use of locale is ... not librarian friendly?
21:58 wizzyrea the followups didn't catch those?
21:58 cait no, they are even noted in the commit messages
21:58 wizzyrea oh locale, well yes
21:59 wizzyrea that is not librarian friendly
21:59 cait maybe you can show me how to do it, because i have no idea.
22:00 cait and i train people in serials currently :(
22:00 wizzyrea hm
22:00 wizzyrea ok well where did you get stuck?
22:01 cait i wanted to set up a serial subscription for monthly, starting with the april issue for that year
22:01 cait well, not the first issue, but a later one
22:02 wizzyrea how many issues?
22:03 cait 12
22:03 cait but starting to receive in april this year, not starting in january
22:03 wizzyrea sub start date = april 1?
22:03 cait with number 4
22:03 cait no january, but issue 4
22:03 cait i think
22:04 wizzyrea no end date?
22:04 wizzyrea or next year?
22:04 cait I tried what i normally do when i show serials to libraries
22:04 cait december
22:04 wahanui december is ok .. some years
22:04 wizzyrea number begins with 4?
22:04 wizzyrea number pattern = number?
22:05 * wizzyrea knows it's late-ish for you
22:05 cait i don't have the installation any longer
22:05 cait had to reset the database to do qa ;)
22:06 wizzyrea is alright - gonna show you what I see
22:07 wizzyrea http://img94.imageshack.us/img94/2459/qbf3.png
22:07 wizzyrea nz dates of course - keep that in mind.
22:07 wizzyrea guess I'm not seeing what's funny there?
22:08 wizzyrea unless you meant it to roll over at 12?
22:09 cait wizzyrea: hm i would like to see the next year
22:09 wizzyrea well we told it only 12 issues
22:09 cait it should rollover at 12 yes
22:09 wizzyrea ah you have to do advanced prediction for that
22:10 cait hm you don#t have now i think
22:10 wizzyrea http://img199.imageshack.us/img199/8897/gqz4.png
22:10 cait you can start middle of the ear
22:10 cait with receiving serials
22:10 wizzyrea this doesn't preclude that
22:10 cait hm?
22:10 wizzyrea it's just a different method
22:11 wizzyrea you open up advanced, and remove 99999, and put in 12 for "when more than"
22:11 wizzyrea then it rolls over when it gets to number 12
22:11 cait hm
22:11 wizzyrea as in the screenshot
22:11 cait i think it should be begins with 1 inner counter 4
22:11 wizzyrea that's how it used to work, which I never actually understood
22:11 wizzyrea this seems to work the way you expect it to.
22:11 cait hm for me not
22:12 cait begins with was when the numbering starts, add 1 to that, ever 1 issue, set back to 1, when more than 12, the current inner counter (where we are) is 4
22:12 wizzyrea but that prediction pattern looks correct for me
22:12 wizzyrea using the settings I have given it
22:13 cait i thik we might disagree on this then
22:13 wizzyrea that pattern doesn't look right?
22:13 cait try with 7 issues
22:14 cait it goes into march
22:14 cait although you said subscription end date was december
22:14 wizzyrea it's calculating 12 issues, which we told it to
22:14 cait and the inner counter on the first table never had any effect in my testing
22:14 cait no matter what i put in there
22:15 wizzyrea I think perhaps the prediction pattern display is not smart enough to honor the end date
22:15 wizzyrea so the real question is
22:15 wizzyrea does it stop you from receiving more when you get to number 5 in the next year
22:16 wizzyrea because I think this display is only an example
22:16 wizzyrea it's not bible truth - it's showing you 12 issues from when you start, and not bothering with the end date.
22:16 wizzyrea clearly you feel it should not display issues past the end date
22:17 wizzyrea we didn't ever have this "begins with" before
22:17 wizzyrea that I recall
22:20 cait we had
22:20 cait where now is inner counter in the above table
22:20 cait there was begins with and rollover
22:20 cait and the inner counter was only in the advanced pattern
22:20 cait i feel like things have been shuffled around here
22:21 cait and can you explain what the inner counter line in the small table does?
22:21 wizzyrea I could never explain what the inner counter did. Ever.
22:21 cjh I had a nightmare last night where I came on irc and everyone was asking me why I missed a release.
22:21 cait lol
22:21 cait cjh: it'all ok
22:21 cait wizzyrea: well i could
22:22 cait wizzyrea: and it worked, now it doesn't for me :(
22:22 cait wizzyrea: so that is quite confusing, i think there are things out of order here that at least need documentation and more testing
22:22 cait we have libraries using serials in production
22:23 wizzyrea so do we - but I think this would probably be an improvement for them.
22:23 wizzyrea *unless* it broke existing subs. That would be a problem.
22:24 wizzyrea I would like to see some proof that it doesn't actually mess up existing subscriptions
22:24 cait i thik gmcharlt said he would take a look
22:25 cait but the locale needs work I think
22:25 cait currently it#s not possible to set up a seasonal pattern in german
22:25 cait things like that
22:25 cait and i want to know how the inner counter field works in the table where we used to have rollover
22:27 wizzyrea fair enough.
22:31 cait probably wrong place wrong time
22:31 cait to discuss
22:40 cait maybe i just have to try again
22:40 cait but not tonight :)
22:40 cait bye all
23:06 tcohen cait: problems with serials in production?
23:06 wizzyrea no, debate about a pending patch.
23:09 tcohen :-D
23:57 rambutan time to go forage for chow
23:57 dcook Mmm chow