Time  Nick         Message
23:59 jenkins_koha * Tomas Cohen Arazi: Bug 10663: restore ability of active hold requests to block renewal
23:59 huginn`      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10663 critical, P5 - low, ---, katrin.fischer, Pushed to Master , Holds never block renewals
23:59 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: Bug 10663: (follow-up) set circ policy for circulation tests
23:59 jenkins_koha * Katrin Fischer: Bug 10663: Follow-up - Unit tests for CanBookBeRenewed
23:59 jenkins_koha * Tomas Cohen Arazi: Bug 10663: tests for CanBookBeRenewed
23:59 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #1363: UNSTABLE in 1 hr 13 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/1363/
23:31 dcook        morning #koha
23:17 huginn`      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10663 critical, P5 - low, ---, katrin.fischer, Pushed to Master , Holds never block renewals
23:17 jenkins_koha * Tomas Cohen Arazi: Bug 10663: restore ability of active hold requests to block renewal
23:17 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: Bug 10663: (follow-up) set circ policy for circulation tests
23:17 jenkins_koha * Katrin Fischer: Bug 10663: Follow-up - Unit tests for CanBookBeRenewed
23:17 jenkins_koha * Tomas Cohen Arazi: Bug 10663: tests for CanBookBeRenewed
23:17 jenkins_koha Project master_maria build #42: STILL UNSTABLE in 34 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/master_maria/42/
23:16 wizzyrea     no tcohen today. boo.
23:10 cait         gmcharlt++
23:09 wizzyrea     nengard: did you look at this report: http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/SQL_Reports_Library#Overdue_materials
22:45 jenkins_koha Starting build #1363 for job Koha_master (previous build: FIXED)
22:45 wizzyrea     gmcharlt++
22:43 rangi        i really should try to fix those last tests at some point
22:42 jenkins_koha Starting build #42 for job master_maria (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE)
22:41 huginn`      New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 10663: restore ability of active hold requests to block renewal <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=3e387f72a337b36d96e1b0df56965391ffc95213> / Bug 10663: (follow-up) set circ policy for circulation tests <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=51b8deb4d5eceee84ad95b28cac902330b4b12fe> / Bug 10663: Follow-up - Unit tests for CanBookBeRenewed <http://git.koha-communi
20:27 oleonard     Later #koha
20:11 oleonard     Hi rangi
20:02 rangi        morning
19:25 huginn`      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10516 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Improve titles, breadcrumbs, and confirmation messages for Z39.50 server adds and updates
19:25 huginn`      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10578 normal, P5 - low, ---, januszop, Pushed to Master , Escaping CGI breaks results sort feature (librarian's interface)
19:25 huginn`      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10576 normal, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Pushed to Master , Untranslatable strings in additem.js
19:25 huginn`      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10552 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Several preferences missing from OPAC login page
19:25 jenkins_koha * Katrin Fischer: Bug 10516 - Follow up - Fixing capitalization
19:25 huginn`      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10206 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle.m.hall, Pushed to Master , Add Koha TT Plugin
19:25 jenkins_koha * Owen Leonard: Bug 10516 - Improve titles, breadcrumbs, and confirmation messages for Z39.50 server adds and updates
19:25 jenkins_koha * Janusz Kaczmarek: Bug 10578: fix results sorting in staff interface
19:25 jenkins_koha * Owen Leonard: Bug 10576: make strings in additem.js accessible to translation
19:25 jenkins_koha * Owen Leonard: Bug 10552: make several sysprefs available to the OPAC login page
19:25 jenkins_koha * Kyle M Hall: Bug 10206 - Add Koha TT Plugin - Koha.Preference
19:25 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.12.x build #82: SUCCESS in 40 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.12.x/82/
18:50 oleonard     http://www.screencast.com/t/kFHEEnia
18:45 jenkins_koha Starting build #82 for job Koha_3.12.x (previous build: SUCCESS)
18:43 tcohen       bye #koha
18:42 huginn`      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10347 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, NEW , Deactivate "Add item" button when "Add multiple copies" was activated
18:42 * oleonard   will roll that into his patch for Bug 10347
18:42 jcamins      Number of additional items to add.
18:42 oleonard     Or, "Number of additional items to add: "
18:42 jcamins      That's the only way I can think of to make it explicit.
18:41 oleonard     "Add multiple additional copies of this item" ?
18:41 jcamins      Add "additional" to that sentence.
18:40 oleonard     I don't know how you change the interface to make that more explicit.
18:37 oleonard     Well, it's been like that for at least two years according to git
18:32 nengard      I don't think that's how it always worked
18:32 nengard      but the number you enter +1
18:32 nengard      so it's not adding the number you enter
18:32 nengard      oh ... i didn't realize that
18:31 oleonard     nengard has that one ever caused confusion in your experience?
18:31 oleonard     "Number of items to add: [ x ]", where x+1 is the number of items you will end up with.
18:30 druthb       >.<
18:30 oleonard     So maybe the button should say "Add multiple additional copies of this item, that is to say in addition to the item you put in the item form up there."
18:29 oleonard     Is it just me, or is it confusing that the "add multiple items" option adds those extra items *in addition to* the one in the entry form?
18:23 nengard      looking for a report that shows me what was overdue as of a specific date - i think i'm missing a piece  http://paste.koha-community.org/173
18:21 oleonard     All in favor, indicate your approval by remaining silent.
18:18 oleonard     I think it should read "Add multiple copies of this item" ...although that is wordy.
18:18 huginn`      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10346 trivial, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Stable , "Add multiple copies" should be labelled "Add multiple items"
18:17 oleonard     I think now that Bug 10346 is wrong.
17:58 wahanui      anyone is free to organize one at any time :-)
17:58 tcohen       anyone?
17:57 tcohen       # plugin error - Koha: plugin not found
17:56 huginn`      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10552 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Several preferences missing from OPAC login page
17:56 tcohen       i'm trying to cherry-pick bug 10552 into 3.12.x and tests fail
17:54 tcohen       is there a special param to pass xt/author/valid-templates.t so it finds the needed template plugins? (Koha)
17:52 magnuse      ooh, thanks!
17:51 khall        that'll work well for me. Thanks for the help! Also, happy belated birthday!
17:51 magnuse      guess he is mostly here during european office hours, so maybe your earlyish morning khall
17:50 huginn`      khall: The operation succeeded.
17:50 khall        @later tell marcelr I'd like to chat with you about bug 10325 when you have a moment
17:50 huginn`      khall: I'll give you the answer as soon as RDA is ready
17:50 khall        @laterl tell marcelr I'd like to chat with you about bug 10325 when you have a moment
17:50 khall        thanks magnuse!
17:50 magnuse      looks like he is off
17:50 magnuse      khall: marcelr
17:45 khall        hey all, is Marcel de Rooy around? I don't know what his usual nick is.
17:28 * tcohen     wishes cait the best possible evening
17:01 oleonard     What is this world coming to?
17:01 * oleonard   is shocked--*shocked*--that cait isn't spending her vacation fixing Koha bugs
16:58 cait         bye all - time to go and enjoy my last vacation evening :)
16:48 tcohen       hi drojf cait
16:46 talljoy      nom nom
16:43 * druthb     has the fumbly fingers today.
16:43 * druthb     offers one to talljoy, too
16:43 * druthb     offers a cookie to talljouy
16:35 cait         still not here :)
16:35 cait         hi oleonard
16:35 oleonard     Hi cait!
16:04 druthb       drojf! ;-)
16:04 drojf        druthb! ;)
16:04 drojf        hi #koha
16:02 oleonard     It would fit well with the "How many barcodes can I attach to one item" preference
16:01 * druthb     waves to drojf.
16:01 jcamins      lol
16:00 druthb       bad_library_ideas--
15:57 druthb       oleonard:   >.<
15:57 oleonard     Because I'm sure there's a library who wants their invoice numbers duplicated only up to two times.
15:56 oleonard     jcamins I'm disappointed your solution was not a new system preference, "HowManyInvoicesCanHaveTheSameNumber"
15:40 oleonard     Hi khall
15:31 jcamins      Patch uploaded.
15:14 jenkins_koha Nicole C. Engard: Modified title of Hebrew serial sample.
15:14 jenkins_koha Project Koha_Docs build #360: SUCCESS in 8.8 sec: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Docs/360/
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15:14 jenkins_koha Nicole C. Engard: Modified title of Hebrew serial sample.
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15:14 jenkins_koha Nicole C. Engard: Modified title of Hebrew serial sample.
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15:12 jenkins_koha Nicole C. Engard: Modified title of Hebrew serial sample.
15:12 jenkins_koha Project Koha_Docs_3.12.x build #12: SUCCESS in 10 sec: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Docs_3.12.x/12/
15:12 jenkins_koha Starting build #12 for job Koha_Docs_3.12.x (previous build: SUCCESS)
15:09 jcamins      Thanks.
15:08 huginn`      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10736 critical, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , AcqWarnOnDuplicateInvoice doesn't warn for duplications - just triplications+
15:08 nengard      Bug 10736 added
15:06 nengard      coming your way
15:06 jcamins      Yes please.
15:06 nengard      you want the new bug for that?
15:06 nengard      teamwork++
15:06 jcamins      Now that I know to try it with new invoice numbers.
15:06 nengard      :)
15:06 jcamins      Okay, I can definitely fix this.
15:06 nengard      hmmm
15:05 jcamins      Already.
15:05 jcamins      And the library that first tested it wanted the development because they have two of every single invoice.
15:04 jcamins      Ah-ha.
15:04 nengard      :)
15:04 nengard      jcamins oleonard i get a warning that 2 other invoices have that number
15:04 nengard      yup
15:02 jcamins      Ooh, nengard, could you try entering that same invoice number again?
15:02 jcamins      Could someone open a new bug for that?
14:57 oleonard     I've been trying to figure out if there is an error with the query but I can't see it.
14:57 jcamins      An off by one error.
14:57 * nengard    is happy she's not crazy (at least not about this)
14:57 wahanui      interesting is probably sometimes good and sometimes bad
14:57 jcamins      oleonard: oooh, interesting.
14:57 oleonard     jcamins: I find that I only get the warning if there are already *two* invoices with that number. If there is just one I don't.
14:57 jcamins      I was just watching nengard's screencast and trying to figure out why I don't see that.
14:57 huginn`      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10366 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Pushed to Master , Alert librarian if an invoice number is duplicated
14:56 oleonard     I've been talking to nengard about Bug 10366
14:56 jcamins      oleonard: I am.
14:56 oleonard     jcamins around?
14:44 jenkins_koha Nicole C. Engard: added .png to keats serial images' filenames and changed links
14:44 jenkins_koha Project Koha_Docs_3.10.x build #57: SUCCESS in 10 sec: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Docs_3.10.x/57/
14:44 jenkins_koha Nicole C. Engard: added .png to keats serial images' filenames and changed links
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14:42 jenkins_koha Nicole C. Engard: added .png to keats serial images' filenames and changed links
14:42 jenkins_koha Project Koha_Docs_3.12.x build #11: SUCCESS in 10 sec: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Docs_3.12.x/11/
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14:41 pianohacker  Good morning
14:13 nengard      looking for some report help ^^
14:13 pastebot     "nengard" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "looking for a report that shows me what was overdue as of a specific date - i think i'm missing a piece" (5 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/173
14:07 * magnuse    wanders off
13:59 jenkins_koha Nicole C. Engard: add AllowTooManyOverride to implementation checklist
13:59 jenkins_koha Project Koha_Docs build #358: SUCCESS in 10 sec: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Docs/358/
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13:57 nengard      lots of things to update
13:57 nengard      I've fallen way behind cause of all of the travel but i'm home now
13:57 nengard      hehe
13:55 magnuse      uptodate_docs++ :-)
13:54 nengard      :)
13:54 magnuse      nengard++
13:44 jenkins_koha * Nicole C. Engard: add itemBarcodeFallbackSearch to implementation checklist
13:44 jenkins_koha * Nicole C. Engard: add reference to itemBarcodeFallbackSearch to the checking out section
13:44 jenkins_koha * Nicole C. Engard: add itemBarcodeFallbackSearch
13:44 jenkins_koha Project Koha_Docs build #357: SUCCESS in 9.4 sec: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Docs/357/
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13:38 oleonard     Hm, Bugzilla says this might be the least of our worries for ordering from a staged file. Looks like it needs work.
13:36 oleonard     :)
13:36 * tcohen     hands oleonard some of cait's cookies he had for special moments
13:35 * oleonard   wishes cait were here, she would be able to comiserate
13:35 oleonard     How can you use the "import all" option when ordering from a staged file if your barcode field is marked as mandatory? You can't add multiple items with the same barcode!
13:16 magnuse      hm, i'm super busy at the moment, so i can't promise anything, but i would certainly want to
13:14 * tcohen     is in negotating-mode
13:14 tcohen       magnuse, would you sign that followup you're asking for if I wrote it? ;)
13:14 jenkins_koha Nicole C. Engard: add AllowTooManyOverride warnings to circ module
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13:06 magnuse      ah "the repeatability/nonrepeatability code (R or NR)"
13:05 magnuse      thanks oleonard
13:05 magnuse      guess that is non-repeatable, so yeah that makes sense
13:05 huginn`      magnuse: The title and statement of responsibility area of the bibliographic description of a work. [a,b,c,f,g,h,k,n,p,s,6,8]
13:05 magnuse      @marc 245
13:05 magnuse      hm, could be
13:03 * oleonard   guesses "non-" ?
13:01 magnuse      so when marc21 says some field is NR, i guess R = repeatable, but what is N?
12:59 jenkins_koha * Nicole C. Engard: add images to AllowTooManyOverride
12:59 jenkins_koha * Nicole C. Engard: add AllowTooManyOverride
12:59 jenkins_koha Project Koha_Docs build #355: SUCCESS in 10 sec: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Docs/355/
12:59 jenkins_koha Starting build #355 for job Koha_Docs (previous build: SUCCESS)
12:58 magnuse      a nice followup to that would be "koha-memcached-{enable,disable} <instance>" ;-)
12:55 * magnuse    is all for making things fit better with other things
12:54 magnuse      tcohen++
12:54 tcohen       what do u think about that magnuse?
12:54 tcohen       i'm fixing my memcached patch so it fits better with koha-sites.conf schema
12:53 magnuse      hiya tcohen
12:26 tcohen       morning #koha
12:23 Viktor       Yay! magnuse oleonard Thanks!
12:20 oleonard     Since I don't remember my  memory being terrible, I'm going to assume it was the former.
12:19 oleonard     Someone claiming to be me posted a comment on that bug. How very strange. Either that or my memory is terrible.
12:18 * magnuse    needs a break
12:18 huginn`      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10067 major, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , decreaseLoanHighHolds messes with specify due date
12:18 magnuse      and since no good deed goes unpunished, there is also bug 10067
12:17 huginn`      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7751 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, martin.renvoize, CLOSED FIXED, Decrease loan period on items with a high number of holds
12:17 magnuse      ah, Bug 7751
12:17 magnuse      Viktor wanted something like it
12:17 magnuse      maybe we are not?
12:14 oleonard     It doesn't look like it's enabled by default. How are we all stumbling upon it?
12:13 magnuse      thanks oleonard, i thought i was going crazy there for a bit
12:13 magnuse      Viktor: it's even in 3.12 :-)
12:12 magnuse      http://manual.koha-community.org/3.12/en/administration.html#decreaseLoanHighHolds
12:11 magnuse      ah, cool
12:10 oleonard     "enable/don't enable the reduction of loan period to X days for items with more than X holds. "
12:09 oleonard     decreaseLoanHighHolds is the new preference
12:08 * oleonard   wonders if he turned that on or if it came switched on
12:06 magnuse      ah
12:06 oleonard     Yes, I've been seeing that in master lately.
12:06 magnuse      oleonard: "shorter loan periods for items with many reservations" does that sounds familiar?
12:05 magnuse      hiya oleonard
12:04 oleonard     Hi #koha
12:04 magnuse      Viktor: i have a feeling khall was involved, but i can't seem to find it
11:56 magnuse      hm, where's cait when you need her... ;-)
11:54 Viktor       And even better if it's possible to create some kind of flexible system for people to express their own weird rules without the need to explicitly code support for it into Koha.
11:52 Viktor       I hope not :) But if you are I'd be interested in funding this.
11:51 magnuse      Viktor: i have a hunch that is something that is under development, but i might be wrong
11:21 Viktor       I do hope shorter loans when there is a queue on items is not another of our mad schemes :)
11:20 Viktor       Guys - I can't find any column in smart-rules.pl saying "Loan and renewal period when item is reserved". Might be a noob question but how do one handle this?
10:48 magnuse      it is!
10:48 wahanui      i heard lunchtime was a terrible time for a meeting
10:48 magnuse      lunchtime!
08:25 Viktor       hi magnuse
08:25 magnuse      hiya Viktor
08:23 cait         bye all
08:22 marcelr      h->g
08:22 marcelr      i will try but can't promise anythinh
08:22 cait         I am always trying to look at as many things as possible, but righ tnow I can't do more before the weekend
08:21 cait         10663 is a bad bug neither I nor rangi can look at
08:21 huginn`      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9761 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, m.de.rooy, Passed QA , Make it possible to confirm future hold requests at checkin time
08:21 marcelr      not to mention bug 9761
08:21 huginn`      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9788 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, m.de.rooy, Signed Off , Improvements for calling GetReservesFromItemnumber
08:21 marcelr      what about bug 9788?
08:20 marcelr      :)
08:20 marcelr      o no circulation
08:20 huginn`      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10663 critical, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Signed Off , Holds never block renewals
08:20 wahanui      hmmm... bug 10663 is still puzzling me
08:20 marcelr      bug 10663
08:20 cait         marcelr: coudl you take a look at 10663 maybe?
08:19 cait         i better go on that city bus tour then :)
08:18 rangi        only good ones :)
08:17 marcelr      no bad jokes allowed here ? :)
08:17 marcelr      hi cait, magnuse and rangi
08:10 magnuse      [off] :-)
08:09 cait         [off] i was making a bad joke i guess :)
08:09 magnuse      [off] there are stats?
08:00 cait         [off] sorry, i can't - i don't want to ruin my stats
07:51 magnuse      [off] heh indeed :-)
07:50 rangi        [off] can you file a bug for me because i dont want to make a bugzilla account
07:49 magnuse      ?
07:48 rangi        heh
07:25 magnuse      hiya marcelr
07:17 marcelr      hi #koha
06:45 drojf        yay :)
06:45 magnuse      yeah, next year, maybe? :-)
06:44 drojf        lacks semantikoha ;)
06:44 magnuse      looks awesome, as usual
06:43 magnuse      drojf: i'd love to, but probably not
06:41 drojf        magnuse: are you going there? http://swib.org/swib13/programme.php
06:41 magnuse      moin drojf
06:40 drojf        hei magnuse
06:32 magnuse      hiya dcook
06:29 dcook        hey ya magnuse :)
06:15 * magnuse    waves
05:46 dcook        hehe
05:40 drojf        lol
05:40 drojf        "Soylent SemWeb Is People! Bringing People to Linked Data"
05:39 drojf        hi dcook
05:38 dcook        morning drojf
05:36 drojf        good morning #koha
03:24 wizzyrea     and wondered what it was smitten with.
03:24 * wizzyrea   read "smit"
02:04 jcamins      Maybe if I move its data file to a different partition.
02:02 jcamins      *in a snit
02:02 jcamins      Cassandra is in snit.
02:02 jcamins      Okay, this is a problem.
01:53 dcook        Although the premise of taking apart the ipod and replacing the headphone jack is...enticing. Even if I would need to buy a billion tools to work on the thing.
01:52 * dcook      would enjoy ditching his last remaining tie to Apple
01:52 dcook        wizzyrea: Apparently the Nexus 4 is only a 1-1.5 cm longer/wider than the ipod classic. That doesn't seem too bad.
01:51 jcamins      And swap didn't mount.
01:51 jcamins      Uh-oh.
01:51 wizzyrea     eep
01:49 dcook        Hmm, not promising at all
01:49 jcamins      Importing ERIC.
01:49 jcamins      That does not seem promising for when I hit the data files that are 6-8 times larger.
01:49 dcook        What's this, jcamins?
01:49 dcook        Ouch...
01:48 jcamins      96 major and 343105 minor pagefaults.
01:48 * dcook      backs away slowly
01:48 dcook        Not that I really believe in the singularity...
01:46 dcook        "I can't believe I have to go to the American network. Ughhh. That's going to take forever."
01:46 dcook        Even post-singularity, I bet we'll still have these discussions
01:45 dcook        hehe
01:45 cjh          australia is just a nexus-4 throws away.
01:45 wizzyrea     I think you mean damned sydney for being far away
01:45 * cjh        imagines dcook catching a plane just to hold wizzyrea's phone.
01:44 dcook        I think we need teleporters or highspeed tunnels...
01:44 dcook        Damned Wellington being far away...
01:44 cjh          adn... and... close enough.
01:44 wizzyrea     hehe that would be fine. :)
01:44 dcook        hehe
01:44 cjh          wizzyrea: so Rachel may appear at your desk adn ask to hold your phone :)
01:44 wizzyrea     I don't even carry 6
01:44 wizzyrea     me too then I realised, I don't really carry 64gb of stuff with me
01:44 dcook        Yeah, I was a bit annoyed by the lack of microSD
01:44 wizzyrea     it's largish.
01:43 cjh          wizzyrea: and the only thing that worries her is the physical size of the thing :p
01:43 cjh          wizzyrea: I think Rachel and I will probably be getting nexus 4s, the only thing that worries me is the lack of a microSD
01:43 dcook        Perhaps you're part of the 6.5% :p
01:43 dcook        Maybe a typo on their part
01:43 dcook        hehe
01:43 wizzyrea     heh
01:43 cjh          wizzyrea: you are off the charts!
01:42 wizzyrea     oh, my nexus is actually running 4.3, which is not on that chart.
01:42 dcook        No wonder I didn't see it at the shops..
01:42 dcook        Hmm, looks like the Nexus 4 might be sold out around here..
01:42 dcook        Mmm
01:42 wizzyrea     it was the only one they had
01:41 wizzyrea     I got mine from a shop.
01:41 wizzyrea     that's about what I know about them.
01:41 wizzyrea     and it's fine. Google sells them.
01:41 dcook        hehe
01:41 wizzyrea     heh, I only just got one yesterday
01:41 dcook        Any recommmendations on case/screen protector?
01:41 dcook        Wow...that is amazing!
01:40 dcook        The 16gb can't really compete with the 120gb of the ipod but...*shrug*
01:40 wizzyrea     I actually Don't worry too much if I forget to plug it in at night, because it will probably be ok the next day
01:40 dcook        The headphone jack on my ipod is starting to go, so I'm thinking of getting a Nexus and retiring my Optimus and ipod
01:40 wizzyrea     and that's using it and stuff.
01:40 wizzyrea     can go at least 2 days without charging it
01:40 wizzyrea     amazing.
01:40 wizzyrea     samsung is my specific "pants android UI"
01:39 dcook        What's the battery life like on your Nexus?
01:39 wizzyrea     jelly bean is awesome.
01:39 dcook        Sony*
01:39 dcook        Samsung or Song?
01:39 dcook        Yeah, I remember you mentioning that
01:39 dcook        I'm still hovering over the Nexus 4 idea though
01:39 wizzyrea     and then you had people putting on vendor ui's that were even more terrible.
01:39 dcook        I wouldn't disagree ;)
01:39 wizzyrea     gingerbread was the first android that didn't feel terrible... but it was still terrible.
01:39 dcook        I'm 33% rather than .1%
01:38 dcook        Ah, 2.3.3
01:38 * dcook      banks on the former
01:38 dcook        Although is mine 2.3.2 or 2.3.3
01:38 dcook        Closely followed by Gingerbread
01:38 dcook        Jelly bean is the most widely used now
01:38 dcook        The stats have changed
01:38 dcook        Oh hoh
01:37 dcook        http://developer.android.com/about/dashboards/index.html
01:37 wizzyrea     it's still terrible
01:37 dcook        It's a bit better than froyo :/
01:37 dcook        It's also the most widely used, me thinks
01:37 wizzyrea     gingerbread was terrible :P
01:37 dcook        ?
01:37 wizzyrea     ...it's gingerbread!
01:37 dcook        Well, the iphone OSes I've seen are certainly more flexible than my Gingerbread OS
01:36 dcook        lol
01:36 dcook        Perhaps we can offer a default that most libraries will never change, but...for those libraries that actually do usability studies (or those subsequent libraries who profit from their work)...it might make sense to have flexibility
01:36 wizzyrea     oh, wait.
01:36 wizzyrea     heh. That must be why people love their iphones.
01:35 dcook        Than for us to decide what the best bet is
01:35 dcook        As software developers, I am starting to think that it makes more sense for us to offer flexible interfaces
01:34 dcook        But on occasion I see more complex queries in the OPAC (usually done by students)
01:34 dcook        I see a lot of kw,wrdl and ti,wrdl
01:34 dcook        I imagine the difference between different types of individual borrowers is also rather vast
01:34 dcook        Very probably
01:33 wizzyrea     I think the difference between what borrowers do, and what librarians do, is vast.
01:33 dcook        wizzyrea: My thoughts exactly
01:33 * dcook      thinks this is the first time he has ever said this
01:33 dcook        Rather than talking about our preferences, maybe it wouldn't be a bad idea to look at stats instead..
01:32 dcook        I was looking over the discussion of what search indexes people are likely to use in the OPAC that oleonard initiated last year (http://lists.koha-community.org/pipermail/koha-devel/2012-September/038042.html)
01:32 wizzyrea     i haven't heard of any. That doesn't mean there aren't some
01:32 dcook        I wonder how many Koha libraries out there perform stats analysis on their search histories...
01:11 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #1362: FIXED in 1 hr 13 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/1362/
01:11 jenkins_koha Yippie, build fixed!
00:40 dcook        night tcohen
00:40 tcohen       a
00:40 tcohen       night #koh