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01:31 tweetbot [off] twitter: @gmcharlt: "Koha 3.14 Release Manager's update #2, wherein I hearken back to the 16th century http://t.co/oGqhqDXxJ2 #KohaILS"
01:32 rangi gmcharlt++
01:36 dcook gmcharlt++
01:39 dcook One of these days, I need to figure out how to write tests...
01:40 cjh dcook: today is a good day to start :)
01:40 dcook Well, today has other things on the menu :P
01:43 dcook Having issues with uri encoding at the moment :/
01:46 dcook Aha...think I might have it
01:47 dcook \o/
05:25 dcook When in doubt, re-index.
05:25 * dcook facepalm
05:25 wahanui http://buikitty.files.wordpress.com/2012/02/20120202-094434.jpg
05:25 dcook Damn it
05:26 dcook eythian is getting me even whilst on vacation
05:32 cait heh
05:35 tweetbot [off] twitter: @KohaILS: "#KohaILS Koha 3.14 Release Manager’s Update #2 http://t.co/z2uoAYODJl"
05:58 cait gmcharlt++
06:50 tweetbot [off] twitter: @BibLibre: "Mise à jour du release manager de Koha 3.14 RT @KohaILS: #KohaILS Koha 3.14 Release Manager’s Update #2 http://t.co/gJKtInGxps"
06:58 Joubu hello #koha
07:12 dcook Something is rotten in the state of Denmark...
07:12 dcook Has anyone else encountered the situation where subscriptionid isn't appearing when searching subscriptions in the Serials module?
07:12 dcook I dump out the sql that Koha is running, and I get perfect results from my DB when I run it
07:13 dcook But for some reason...when Koha runs the fetchrow_hashref...it's getting undef instead of the actual subscriptionid...
08:00 * cait waves from the train
08:39 cait quite lonely in #koha this morning
08:56 cait @wunder Hamburg, Germany
08:56 huginn cait: The current temperature in Hamburg Airport, Germany is 18.0°C (10:50 AM CEST on August 12, 2013). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 64%. Dew Point: 11.0°C. Pressure: 29.92 in 1013 hPa (Steady).
09:05 cait @eightball Hamburg?
09:05 huginn cait: _I_ don't know.
09:52 drojf hi #koha
09:55 cait hi drojf
09:55 drojf hi cait
09:55 drojf @wunder berlin, germany
09:55 huginn drojf: The current temperature in Prenzlauer Berg, Berlin, Germany is 20.1°C (11:43 AM CEST on August 12, 2013). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 56%. Dew Point: 11.0°C. Pressure: 29.98 in 1015 hPa (Steady).
10:53 cait drojf++ for being a super secret reviewer :)
10:56 cait oups
11:52 oleonard Hi #koha
11:58 cait hi oleonard
12:00 oleonard cait I didn't know we got to see you during your vacation :)
12:00 * cait is not here
12:11 * cait leaves cookies for the busy koha developers
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12:27 jenkins_koha Nicole C. Engard: add note to overdues about 'Show any items currently checked out'
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12:28 jenkins_koha Nicole C. Engard: add note to overdues about 'Show any items currently checked out'
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12:28 jenkins_koha Nicole C. Engard: add note to overdues about 'Show any items currently checked out'
12:30 tcohen morning
12:37 * tcohen enters rmaint-mode
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12:41 jenkins_koha Nicole C. Engard: add Keats-Shelley Journal sample
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12:43 jenkins_koha Nicole C. Engard: add Keats-Shelley Journal sample
12:43 jenkins_koha Project Koha_Docs build #353: SUCCESS in 9.4 sec: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Docs/353/
12:43 jenkins_koha Nicole C. Engard: add Keats-Shelley Journal sample
12:56 tcohen hi magnus_away, if u jave the time later, could you please take a look at 8507?
12:56 tcohen s/j/h/
13:25 oleonard Bug 8507
13:25 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8507 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Signed Off , koha-create should be updated to use DOM indexing for bib
13:26 * oleonard feels sad for the bugs that were created, then a year later commented on for the first time
13:29 nengard i have an interesting question - is it possible with jquery to make it so that every link <a href opens in a new window/tab?
13:34 oleonard nengard: I'm not sure how you would do that in such a way that it didn't interfere with links on the page which are there to trigger other JS-related events
13:34 nengard yeah that's what i thought
13:34 oleonard Plus it would be super-annoying.
13:34 nengard it's what they want
13:34 oleonard They're wrong.
13:34 nengard LOL
13:34 oleonard :P
14:22 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 10511: (follow-up) jQuery .removeAttr() has only one parameter <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=7d6edc6f182009726e9675ae832385f37e16c4e0> / Bug 10511: fix message preference form glitch concerning phone notifications <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=e608f4d48c09e025fc10d47668bb40c0d3d686a7>
14:26 mtompset Greetings, #koha talljoy druthb. :)
14:26 druthb hi, mtompset! :)
14:27 jenkins_koha Starting build #32 for job master_maria (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE)
14:28 tcohen hi mtompset
14:28 mtompset Greetings, tcohen.
14:29 tcohen oleonard: at least that bug got fixed :-D
14:30 talljoy good morning mtompset
14:30 talljoy hi druthb !
14:30 jenkins_koha Starting build #1353 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #1338 18 days ago)
14:30 * druthb waves to talljoy.
14:31 talljoy o/
14:31 druthb \o/
14:31 druthb hm.
14:31 druthb wahanui: talljoy?
14:31 wahanui I CRUNCH DATA or kicking butt at words with friends
14:31 druthb lol
14:32 druthb talljoy is also one of the few women that can see eye to eye with druthb. Almost all the others need to stand on a box.
14:32 wahanui okay, druthb.
14:33 druthb wahanui: talljoy?
14:33 wahanui talljoy is one of the few women that can see eye to eye with druthb. Almost all the others need to stand on a box.
14:33 talljoy LOL
14:33 * druthb chuckles.
14:33 druthb one takes one's pleasures where one can.
14:39 nengard silly question ... can someone remind me what to look for in a file that failed to merge to find the trouble spot?
14:40 nengard it's some character repeated
14:40 oleonard >>>
14:41 druthb >.>
14:41 druthb <.<
14:41 druthb ^.^
14:41 nengard thank you!!!
14:41 oleonard Can someone help a poor Perl-challenged fellow and tell me what's going on around line 137 of opac-tags.pl?
14:42 nengard hmmm ... so i was searching for that
14:42 nengard I got a merge error but that's not in the doc at all
14:42 nengard what does that mean?
14:42 nengard oh
14:42 nengard wait
14:42 nengard duh
14:42 nengard ignore me
14:44 druthb oleonard: What sort of question do you have? I'm looking, but...
14:45 oleonard I understand that the foreach is going through the submitted tags and passing them through the scrubber, but what is the regular expression for, how is it used?
14:45 * druthb looks
14:46 druthb It strips leading and trailing spaces.
14:46 druthb Since no object-to-do-it-to is specified, it's doing it to $_.
14:48 druthb I tend to avoid using $_ in my code, for exactly that readability reason. I'd be saying foreach my $this_value (@values) { $this_value =~ s/ blahblahblah..
14:49 druthb make sense?
14:49 * druthb hopes so; she's not making much sense lately.
14:49 oleonard Yes, that makes sense
14:50 druthb :)
14:50 oleonard What is the regex doing?
14:51 druthb stripping off leading and trailing spaces, if any exist.
14:52 oleonard Okay, that makes sense now too
14:52 druthb :)
14:53 druthb conveniently, it will also toss a tab character, if one exists at the beginning or end.
14:56 mtompset I usually look for <<<, because both that and >>> are used, as well as a === line between the sections.
14:56 jenkins_koha Starting build #10 for job Koha_Docs_3.12.x (previous build: SUCCESS)
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14:57 jenkins_koha Nicole C. Engard: Fixed typos and replaced/removed several characters.
14:57 rambutan @seen jcamins
14:57 huginn rambutan: jcamins was last seen in #koha 3 days, 1 hour, 40 minutes, and 45 seconds ago: <jcamins> I think a substitution is necessary. :(
14:58 jenkins_koha Starting build #56 for job Koha_Docs_3.10.x (previous build: SUCCESS)
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14:58 jenkins_koha Nicole C. Engard: Fixed typos and replaced/removed several characters.
14:59 jenkins_koha Starting build #354 for job Koha_Docs (previous build: SUCCESS)
14:59 jenkins_koha Project Koha_Docs build #354: SUCCESS in 10 sec: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Docs/354/
14:59 jenkins_koha Nicole C. Engard: Fixed typos and replaced/removed several characters.
15:03 jenkins_koha Project master_maria build #32: STILL UNSTABLE in 36 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/master_maria/32/
15:03 jenkins_koha * Kyle M Hall: Bug 10511: fix message preference form glitch concerning phone notifications
15:03 jenkins_koha * Kyle M Hall: Bug 10511: (follow-up) jQuery .removeAttr() has only one parameter
15:03 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10511 minor, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Pushed to Master , Odd behavior for messaging preferences with Talking Tech enabled
15:12 jenkins_koha Starting build #33 for job master_maria (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE)
15:12 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 10247: show warning if hold blocked due to maxreserves syspre <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=4f263b3a909b420e31b5c43a17331d0231260003>
15:22 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 10362: ensure that all messages and alerts are shown upon checkin <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=5192fd81adaccf9b0f4a01dcc0ffc689edc9468f>
15:43 oleonard Okay, I'm back to that regex again, wondering how to add trimming of quotes too. If I say "s/^\s*"(.+)"\s*$/$1/;" that doesn't catch quotes in the middle of the string (unlikely as it may be)
15:43 jenkins_koha Yippie, build fixed!
15:43 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #1353: FIXED in 1 hr 12 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/1353/
15:43 jenkins_koha * Kyle M Hall: Bug 10511: fix message preference form glitch concerning phone notifications
15:43 jenkins_koha * Kyle M Hall: Bug 10511: (follow-up) jQuery .removeAttr() has only one parameter
15:43 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10511 minor, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Pushed to Master , Odd behavior for messaging preferences with Talking Tech enabled
15:43 jenkins_koha Starting build #78 for job Koha_3.12.x (previous build: SUCCESS)
15:44 druthb you want to toss all quotes, no matter where they appear?
15:44 druthb oleonard: ^^
15:44 oleonard yes
15:45 druthb couple of ways to do that, but the easiest would be to add a second regex: s/"//g;
15:45 oleonard Okay, so I'm not missing an easy way to roll that into the existing one
15:45 druthb no. you'd need to change (.+) to "anything *but* '"', and that's going to be nigh-on unreadable.
15:46 druthb I would rather see two or three nice easy-to-read regexes than have a really painful one that no one can maintain.
15:46 oleonard druthb++
15:46 druthb :)
15:47 druthb Theoretically, there's a minor performance hit there—but given the scope of the problem, I wouldn't rate it as worth the suffering caused by a hard-to-maintain bit of code.
15:49 jenkins_koha Project master_maria build #33: STILL UNSTABLE in 37 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/master_maria/33/
15:49 jenkins_koha Fridolyn SOMERS: Bug 10247: show warning if hold blocked due to maxreserves syspre
15:49 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10247 normal, P5 - low, ---, fridolyn.somers, Pushed to Master , Too many reserves due to syspref does not show warning
15:50 jenkins_koha Starting build #34 for job master_maria (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE)
16:23 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.12.x build #78: SUCCESS in 40 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.12.x/78/
16:23 jenkins_koha * Sophie Meynieux: Bug 10127 : Printoverdues.sh should tar only pdf files
16:23 jenkins_koha * Owen Leonard: Bug 5766 - Add configuration for excluding articles from DataTables sorting
16:23 jenkins_koha * Fridolyn SOMERS: Bug 7019: fix sorting by return date in Circulation History
16:23 jenkins_koha * Katrin Fischer: Bug 10563: Fix broken 'Edit' link on check expiration page
16:23 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10127 normal, P5 - low, ---, fridolyn.somers, Pushed to Stable , Printoverdues.sh should tar only pdf files
16:23 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5766 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Add configuration for excluding articles from jQuery table sorter
16:23 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7019 normal, P5 - low, ---, fridolyn.somers, Pushed to Master , Circulation History Sort Order Wrong
16:24 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10563 normal, P5 - low, ---, katrin.fischer, Pushed to Master , Link to edit subscription from 'check expiraton' page is broken
16:24 jenkins_koha Starting build #1354 for job Koha_master (previous build: FIXED)
16:26 jenkins_koha Project master_maria build #34: STILL UNSTABLE in 36 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/master_maria/34/
16:26 jenkins_koha Fridolyn SOMERS: Bug 10362: ensure that all messages and alerts are shown upon checkin
16:26 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10362 normal, P5 - low, ---, fridolyn.somers, Pushed to Stable , on return with reserve or transfer the alerts are not shown
16:45 oleonard Man, Firefox is lurching around like a $%*& cow today
17:37 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #1354: UNSTABLE in 1 hr 13 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/1354/
17:37 jenkins_koha * Fridolyn SOMERS: Bug 10247: show warning if hold blocked due to maxreserves syspre
17:37 jenkins_koha * Fridolyn SOMERS: Bug 10362: ensure that all messages and alerts are shown upon checkin
17:37 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10247 normal, P5 - low, ---, fridolyn.somers, Pushed to Master , Too many reserves due to syspref does not show warning
17:37 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10362 normal, P5 - low, ---, fridolyn.somers, Pushed to Stable , on return with reserve or transfer the alerts are not shown
17:50 tcohen gmcharlt: are u pushing 10663 soon?
17:51 tcohen i want to write some regression tests for 9362 on top of that
17:53 gmcharlt tcohen: ask me again after it passes QA? :) but seriously, once it does, I'm inclined to push it fairly quickly
17:53 tcohen ok, in that case i'll write those on top of that
17:53 tcohen thanks
18:38 oleonard Anyone know of any reason we have itemtypeimg outside the images directory?
18:40 bag to excite you on a monday oleonard
18:41 bag just a guess ^^^
18:41 oleonard To awaken the bee in my bonnet, so to speak?
18:56 mtompset speaking of images...
18:57 mtompset the triangle and cart images were message up in one of the packages install.
18:57 mtompset for OPAC.
18:57 mtompset ^message^messed^
19:40 mtompset Have a great day, #koha oleonard bag gmcharlt druthb etc. :)
19:40 bag :)
19:41 druthb :)
19:48 oleonard bye #koha
20:56 jcamins example opacs?
20:56 jcamins example catalogs?
20:56 jcamins example opacs is http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Gallery_of_customized_OPACs
20:57 * cait waves from hamburg
20:57 jcamins How is Hamburg?
21:06 cait dark right now :)
21:47 gmcharlt tossing out a proposition: OPACBaseURL should not be a system preference -- it should be an environment variable set in the virtual host config
21:47 gmcharlt discuss/throw tomateos :)
21:48 wizzyrea why not in the koha_conf?
21:48 jcamins gmcharlt: one of my libraries would argue against that because they have a preferred domain, but often switch to the DNS I provide because my DNS doesn't go down for days on end.
21:48 wizzyrea out of curiosity
21:48 jcamins wizzyrea: presumably because the domain is set in the Apache configuration file.
21:49 gmcharlt wizzyrea: consortial systems having multiple OPACs, each scoped to a library
21:49 rangi if you can make it work with plack + nginx
21:49 wizzyrea erm, jcamins that doesn't actually compute - opacbaseurl is only used to provide the links to subjects and such?
21:49 rangi as well as with apache
21:49 rangi im interested
21:49 wizzyrea but gmcharlt's statement makes sense.
21:50 rangi i dislike apache only things
21:50 rangi like the caching variables etc
21:50 jcamins wizzyrea: OPACBaseURL is used for linking between intranet and OPAC.
21:51 jcamins And reference managers.
21:52 * jcamins knows this is an issue for them, because they called to ask how to fix it last week.
21:52 jcamins [off] And yes, I suggested "find someone to manage your DNS who can keep it up for more than a half hour," but that's not within their power.
21:53 rangi to rephrase, i like the env idea, but id like it to be set somewhere and then imported/used in the apache conf rather than defined only in the apache conf
21:53 rangi if that makes sense?
21:53 wizzyrea what if opacbaseurl were per library, defined with the library?
21:54 cait hm i think we also use it to create the links from staff to opac
21:54 jcamins cait: yup. :)
21:54 wizzyrea that's it's main purpose.
21:54 rangi apache could of course fetch it directly from the db, you can embed a snippet of perl in the apache conf to do just that
21:54 cait also the links in the opac cart and lists mails... I think
21:54 cait and i should be sleeping :)
21:55 jcamins Yes you should.
21:57 jcamins cait?
21:57 wahanui cait: go to bed
22:03 cait i am :)
22:03 jcamins I have a question on a completely different subject.
22:03 rangi heya ebegin ltns
22:03 cait good night all :) i have to visit a minuature wonderland, a dungeon and maybe a musical tomorrow :D
22:05 jcamins I've been thinking about facet ordering. It seems to me that A) a facet is more likely to be useful the closer it is to covering the entire result set, and B) the facet is more likely to be useful the fewer choices it offers. Does this make sense to y'all?
22:06 gmcharlt rangi: to answer your question, yes, it appears that environment variables can be used as a least common denominator
22:06 rangi gmcharlt: sweet
22:06 rangi jcamins: it does to me
22:07 jcamins gmcharlt: but doesn't that mean that you have to edit your PSGI file or the startup script?
22:08 jcamins rangi: thanks. Ordered by position-in-associative-array and ordered by label were both pretty useless, since the facets that appear change depending on the search.
22:08 rangi yeah
22:09 jcamins [off] You were just helping with this: http://screencast.com/t/YKvXKHlV
22:09 gmcharlt jcamins: at the moment, yes, but it would be fairly easy to extract the desired variables into a common config that plackup or an Apache handler could parse
22:10 jcamins gmcharlt: but... in that case how's that different from koha-conf.xml?
22:10 gmcharlt jcamins: there's some currently unused faceting fucntionatlity in Zebra that could gives us facets that cover the entire result set, rather than the hits that are currently displayed
22:10 jcamins I mean, I can see why putting it in koha-conf doesn't make a lot of sense.
22:10 jcamins gmcharlt: I know, but this isn't Koha. :)
22:11 gmcharlt jcamins: same thing I said to wizzyrea, stated differently: multii-OPAC sites sharing a single Koha DB
22:11 gmcharlt i.e,. koha-vhost.conf.notxml
22:12 jcamins gmcharlt: but if plackup is parsing the configuration file, you still end up with one setting per database.
22:12 jcamins Or did I misunderstand what you meant?
22:15 gmcharlt jcamins: well, it may require some hackery with Plack::App::URLMap or the like
22:17 gmcharlt and it wouldn't be necessary to pass all of the potential env vars we might want directly (see bug 10325 for why we might want to do bunches) -- potentially just enough to tell the Perl code what vhost is in effect
22:17 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10325 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle.m.hall, Needs Signoff , Allow system preferences to be overridable from koha-httpd.conf
22:50 bag pianohacker: rancor