Time  Nick         Message
23:58 drojf        yay, we are down to 140
21:54 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #1352: STILL UNSTABLE in 1 hr 11 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/1352/
21:49 MadMongo     drojf: thanks - about to post to the forums. Just wanted to see if anyone was alive first
21:48 drojf        MadMongo: you will probably have more luck during the week or with a mail to the mailing list. but you can stay around a while to see if somebody is still around
21:47 MadMongo     I am having trouble with LDAP authentication with active directory. Anyone available to help me?
21:08 cait         hm harder to do that than I thought
21:01 cait         ... as soon as I get my owncloud calendar to work in thunderbird again
21:00 gmcharlt     sure
20:59 cait         so i am probably going to ask again some time and still add them for now
20:59 cait         alright :)
20:59 gmcharlt     the final string freeze will be 31 October, but I reserve the right to tweak the others a bit
20:58 cait         was wondering more about the freezes
20:58 cait         was going to add those to my calendar right now :)
20:58 wahanui      release schedule is probably http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Proposal_for_RM_3_14_gmcharlt#Timeline
20:58 cait         release schedule?
20:58 gmcharlt     cait: 20 November? yes
20:56 cait         gmcharlt: as you are here - the dates on the release schedule are still right?
20:56 cait         it comes around on it's own
20:55 cait         but nothing to worry about then at least
20:55 cait         ah
20:55 gmcharlt     the dratted quotes test -- I suspect it dislieks UTC+0
20:50 wahanui      unstable is probably sid
20:50 cait         hm unstable!
20:44 jenkins_koha Starting build #1352 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #1338 15 days ago)
20:42 jenkins_koha Galen Charlton: Bug 10644: (follow-up) remove inadvertant dependence on Perl 5.14
20:42 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #1351: STILL UNSTABLE in 1 hr 15 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/1351/
20:41 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10644 normal, P5 - low, ---, kenza.zaki, Pushed to Master , C4::ClassSource.pm needs unit tests
20:41 jenkins_koha Galen Charlton: Bug 10644: (follow-up) remove inadvertant dependence on Perl 5.14
20:41 jenkins_koha Project master_maria build #31: STILL UNSTABLE in 1 hr 6 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/master_maria/31/
19:37 cait         gmcharlt++
19:35 jenkins_koha Starting build #31 for job master_maria (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE)
19:35 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=2394 major, P3, ---, gmcharlt, Pushed to Master , canreservefromotherbranches preference not working
19:35 jenkins_koha * Julian Maurice: Bug 2394: Use syspref canreservefromotherbranches in CanItemBeReserved
19:35 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: bug 2394: regression test for canreservefromotherbranches
19:35 jenkins_koha Project master_maria build #30: STILL UNSTABLE in 1 hr 17 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/master_maria/30/
19:29 jenkins_koha Starting build #1351 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #1338 15 days ago)
19:27 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=2394 major, P3, ---, gmcharlt, Pushed to Master , canreservefromotherbranches preference not working
19:27 jenkins_koha * Julian Maurice: Bug 2394: Use syspref canreservefromotherbranches in CanItemBeReserved
19:27 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: bug 2394: regression test for canreservefromotherbranches
19:27 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #1350: STILL UNSTABLE in 1 hr 15 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/1350/
19:05 cait         what's guar?
19:05 cait         hm fingers crossed
19:04 drojf        rice and guar flour basically. but it was liquid than i had planned and i think it is not working out
19:01 huginn       New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 10644: (follow-up) remove inadvertant dependence on Perl 5.14 <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=8f933bc040e8e4198f5278253191a7a4233467ce>
18:56 cait         drojf: what's in it?
18:56 drojf        bye tcohen
18:56 drojf        experimenting with the dough…
18:55 tcohen       bye #koha, weekend is waiting!
18:55 drojf        i hope there will be pizza…
18:55 cait         drojf: gluten free pizza?
18:55 tcohen       but u never know
18:55 tcohen       drop me an email if something needs to get fixed, i tested already here
18:54 drojf        tcohen++ # i'll have a look after pizza
18:54 tcohen       hi cait
18:54 cait         vacation!
18:54 * cait       waves
18:54 tcohen       done drojf
18:45 tcohen       basically y generate a better koha-conf.xml file now (using the data you provided)
18:44 drojf        tcohen: i only tried once to manually switch to DOM and failed, the wiki page is all i know about it ;) but i'll give it a try later if you got a new patch
18:44 jwagner      (should confirm it before setting in stone....)
18:44 jwagner      better have someone else look -- I just did a quick peek
18:44 nengard      i'll update the manual
18:44 nengard      good to know
18:43 jwagner      so that would be what the notice triggers use
18:43 nengard      thank you
18:43 jwagner      nengard, the overdues script looks like it's selecting based on patron library
18:43 * tcohen     is putting the pieces together
18:42 drojf        ah
18:42 drojf        the old one or the new one? :)
18:42 tcohen       did't upload the latest patch yet
18:42 tcohen       i fixed the DOM thing
18:42 drojf        in the kitchen mostly
18:42 drojf        tcohen: kind of
18:40 wahanui      well, nengard is fast
18:40 nengard      nengard?
18:40 wahanui      somebody said nicole was not going.
18:40 nengard      nicole?
18:39 wahanui      rumour has it everybody is so enthusiastic today :)
18:39 nengard      where is everybody??
18:36 tcohen       drojf around?
18:36 nengard      we have a question: "are the notice triggers based on the patron's home library or the library the item was checked out at"?
18:35 nengard      say hi
18:35 nengard      i'm here with vokal libraries
18:35 nengard      hi #koha
18:25 oleonard     See you later #koha
18:17 pianohacker  man.  Besides the excellent technique, he has a wonderfully light touch
18:17 jenkins_koha Starting build #30 for job master_maria (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE)
18:17 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10298 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , t::lib::Mocks tries to deal with syspref but doesn not manage to
18:17 jenkins_koha * Jonathan Druart: Bug 10298: Adapt existing code
18:17 jenkins_koha * Jonathan Druart: Bug 10298: Followup: Adapt existing code
18:17 jenkins_koha * Jonathan Druart: Bug 10298: Mock C4::Context->preference
18:17 jenkins_koha Project master_maria build #29: STILL UNSTABLE in 1 hr 19 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/master_maria/29/
18:16 gmcharlt     mind you, the piece is *supposed* to played on a two-manual instrument
18:15 gmcharlt     druthb_away: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=acxipN-HSdc
18:13 jenkins_koha Starting build #1350 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #1338 15 days ago)
18:11 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10298 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , t::lib::Mocks tries to deal with syspref but doesn not manage to
18:11 jenkins_koha * Jonathan Druart: Bug 10298: Adapt existing code
18:11 jenkins_koha * Jonathan Druart: Bug 10298: Followup: Adapt existing code
18:11 jenkins_koha * Jonathan Druart: Bug 10298: Mock C4::Context->preference
18:11 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #1349: STILL UNSTABLE in 1 hr 11 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/1349/
18:11 huginn       New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 2394: Use syspref canreservefromotherbranches in CanItemBeReserved <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=2cbc47a871efc60ae663ecfedf59ec77dda718f4> / bug 2394: regression test for canreservefromotherbranches <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=23e302071efabd824f0a6c69bc68dee4cfc13e5b>
18:07 druthb       I looked at the Pathetique on a synthesia roll one time, and it looks like you have to be a three handed Dark Arts professor to play it, but somehow, lots of pianists learn it.
18:05 gmcharlt     (guess who had to google the opus #)
18:05 druthb       :)
18:04 gmcharlt     agreed re the Pathétique
18:03 druthb       The whole sonata is gorgeous, in the hands of a competent pianist, but a well-done second movment… ah, bliss.
18:01 * druthb     spins up some beautiful music.  Pandora chose Beethoven's Opus 13 #8, second movement.  Perfection.
17:59 druthb       srsly.
17:56 drojf        exactly
17:56 wahanui      week is a *long* time, though.
17:56 drojf        week?
17:56 drojf        wut?
17:55 * druthb     cries
17:54 kf           bye all - cya in a week :)
17:01 oleonard     Yep that seems to have worked. Thanks gmcharlt.
17:00 jenkins_koha Starting build #1349 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #1338 15 days ago)
16:59 gmcharlt     oleonard: I think so, yes
16:59 jenkins_koha * root: Bug 10643: fix inappropriate uses of $sth->finish() in C4::ClassSource.pm
16:59 jenkins_koha * Owen Leonard: Bug 10404: tweak style of staff client previous/next links
16:59 jenkins_koha * Jared Camins-Esakov: Bug 10404: add previous/next browsing to staff client
16:59 oleonard     git-bz apply and -s at the same time?
16:59 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #1348: STILL UNSTABLE in 1 hr 14 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/1348/
16:58 gmcharlt     oleonard: git-bz has an -s switch, so you could apply with that, and git-reset if you don't like them after all
16:57 oleonard     What's the most efficient way to sign off on multiple patches on one bug?
16:57 jenkins_koha Starting build #29 for job master_maria (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE)
16:57 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10643 normal, P5 - low, ---, kenza.zaki, Pushed to Master , Inappropriate uses of $sth->finish() in C4::ClassSource.pm
16:57 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10404 new feature, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Pushed to Master , Add previous/next browsing to staff client search results
16:57 jenkins_koha * root: Bug 10643: fix inappropriate uses of $sth->finish() in C4::ClassSource.pm
16:57 jenkins_koha * Owen Leonard: Bug 10404: tweak style of staff client previous/next links
16:57 jenkins_koha * Jared Camins-Esakov: Bug 10404: add previous/next browsing to staff client
16:57 jenkins_koha Project master_maria build #28: STILL UNSTABLE in 1 hr 15 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/master_maria/28/
16:53 gmcharlt     kf: thanks
16:53 kf           the latter were written for GetReserveStatus initially.. but when i reverted I rewrote them
16:53 kf           gmcharlt: all tests i have writen were for CanItemBeRenewed and CheckReserves
16:50 kf           gmcharlt: sorry no - there is lots to test in that area... and not many existing tests
16:47 gmcharlt     (I'm about to write one, just want to double-check before duplicating work)
16:46 gmcharlt     tcohen: kf: in your recent works on holds vs. renewals, do either of you happen to written test cases that exercise CanItemBeReserved?
16:41 huginn       New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 10298: Adapt existing code <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=950906207237d8056e9f8b775e1d52223a757729> / Bug 10298: Followup: Adapt existing code <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=a765d5f88e125e0f43e2e5cfe766bc22f0fd0d08> / Bug 10298: Mock C4::Context->preference <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=eb90241c7941760a79c48c745c8fd938
16:34 kf           saat: look for the serial collection link on the left side of your subscription detail page - there are edit links from there
16:19 saat         can someone tell me how to edit received loose issue details if there is any typing mistake while receiving issues from serials module
16:00 paul_p       oleonard = I haven't booked my flight yet
16:00 oleonard     How about you paul_p?
15:55 kf           i think 13th or 14th
15:54 kf           last time in nz i lost 24 hours somewhere.. not risk this time
15:54 bag          for Friday night and Saturday night
15:54 bag          I think maybe during the weekend
15:54 * oleonard   arrives on the 15th
15:54 kf           paul_p: bit earlier than the conf
15:54 oleonard     You bringing the family bag?
15:51 bag          if I remember correctly on the 14th
15:51 paul_p       heya bag. Same question for you = when do you reach Reno for the KohaCon ?
15:50 bag          heya paul_p
15:49 paul_p       kf = when do you arrive in reno ?
15:45 kf           bug terminator :)
15:45 kf           oleonard++ again
15:45 jenkins_koha Starting build #1348 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #1338 15 days ago)
15:42 jenkins_koha Starting build #28 for job master_maria (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE)
15:35 huginn       New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 10643: fix inappropriate uses of $sth->finish() in C4::ClassSource.pm <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=5cba6457aa00f3f3b2038f70057df300d9c6b9c3> / Bug 10404: tweak style of staff client previous/next links <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=8acce47efc0b6f9dd35115b76756c4cf42be1975> / Bug 10404: add previous/next browsing to staff client <http://git.koha-commu
15:27 kf           oleonard++
15:11 wahanui      oleonard is, like, still here, if you just wish hard enough. or Koha's master UI designer
15:11 druthb       wahanui:  oleonard?
15:06 wahanui      something is fishy
15:06 drojf        something?
15:06 wahanui      okay, oleonard.
15:06 oleonard     wahanui: something is also sketchy
15:06 kf           we will all be hanging around in irc during the day i woudl think from past experience
15:06 wahanui      something is, like, fishy
15:06 kf           or something
15:06 kf           drojf: we can also do a live chat report
14:57 drojf        lol
14:57 drojf        :)
14:57 oleonard     Please start a wiki page listing names of those who want a glass raised to them
14:56 oleonard     We will raise a glass to you drojf, FWIW
14:56 drojf        :P
14:56 drojf        jealousycon. at home. with myself. and cookies.
14:54 kf           KOHACON! :)
14:53 oleonard     And then, KOHACON! Woo!
14:53 * druthb     was about to get the locks and chain, but guesses not.
14:52 oleonard     Not counting evenings and weekends ;)
14:52 oleonard     For me, no more time away from this desk until KohaCon
14:48 druthb       :)
14:48 kf           going on vacation next week :)
14:48 * druthb     takes one, nibbles.
14:48 * kf         hands out cookies to everyone around
14:47 druthb       This is a problem how, precisely?
14:47 kf           druthb: you've spend too much time with librarians :)
14:46 druthb       Maybe hack the karma plugin to provide for "authority control."  If someone ++s one, it automatically adds…and if they @karma one, it lists the synonyms, and the total.
14:46 * druthb     still thinks gmcharlt oughta dooo eeet.
14:45 kf           mmhmhmm
14:45 * druthb     looks innocent
14:44 kf           gmcharlt: not sure it would be fair, somepeople gave both
14:44 tcohen       +1
14:43 druthb       dooo eeeeet.
14:43 gmcharlt     not sure about this kf person ;)
14:42 gmcharlt     druthb: for cait, I would do that
14:41 * druthb     thinks gmcharlt oughta write a script to combine those to automagically, put kf where she belongs in the pantheon of Koha royalty.
14:40 oleonard     You're a karma powerhouse kf :)
14:40 wahanui      744
14:40 oleonard     434 + 310 ?
14:40 kf           :P
14:40 kf           this cait person has a lot of karma
14:40 druthb       whoa!  I finally got to 200!  woop woop!
14:40 * kf         doesn't want to know
14:40 huginn       druthb: "rangi": 875, "oleonard": 749, "jcamins": 634, "gmcharlt": 456, "cait": 434, "wizzyrea": 431, "chris_n": 315, "kf": 310, "paul_p": 280, "magnuse": 254, "sekjal": 247, "nengard": 246, "eythian": 235, "druthb": 200, "slef": 180, "tcohen": 147, "drojf": 119, "marcelr": 103, "bgkriegel": 98, "fredericd": 96, "mtj": 77, "biblibre": 71, "hdl": 69, "mveron": 68, and "hdl_laptop": 60
14:40 druthb       @most increased
14:39 oleonard     I wonder what happened to the big irc stats page rangi used to maintain
14:39 drojf        <!++
14:39 drojf        ie--
14:38 huginn       drojf: Highest karma: "rangi" (868), "oleonard" (744), and "jcamins" (632).  Lowest karma: "<!" (-115), "ie" (-107), and "failed" (-104).  You (drojf) are ranked 17 out of 2586.
14:38 drojf        @karma
14:36 drojf        we should increase the kf speed!
14:36 wahanui      somebody said kf speed was an issue.
14:36 slef         kf speed?
14:33 wahanui      kf is probably cait or really, really sweet. or <reply>she gives me memory loss or a holds expert.
14:33 druthb       kf?
14:33 wahanui      drojf is from Germany and developing Koha on a raspberry pi!
14:33 druthb       drojf?
14:33 drojf        lol
14:32 wahanui      it has been said that whoa is it a bug or a feature that the address bar search in firefox now uses the search you have selected in the search box
14:32 slef         whoa?
14:32 slef         mm45's question?
14:32 wahanui      Well, she finally snapped, like we all knew she would.
14:32 druthb       druthb?
14:31 druthb       hm.
14:31 wahanui      Germany is very cool
14:31 druthb       Germany?
14:31 slef         right, time to start working at kf speed!
14:31 wahanui      hmmm... the primary problem is that yous is such an edge case that it doesn't make sense to modify Koha to cover it
14:31 slef         The primary problem?
14:31 wahanui      it has been said that Problem is it's human beings doing it. Rebuild your indexes.
14:31 slef         Problem?
14:31 wahanui      rumour has it unimarc is http://www.ifla.org/en/publications/unimarc-formats-and-related-documentation
14:31 slef         unimarc?
14:30 wahanui      i guess the unimarc problem is interesting though
14:30 slef         the unimarc problem?
14:30 wahanui      the good news is, like, it looks like it's running properly
14:30 slef         the good news?
14:30 wahanui      the bots are listed at http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/IRC_Regulars
14:30 slef         the bots?
14:29 drojf        druthb: :)
14:28 magnuse      slef: yeah, something like that ;-)
14:28 wahanui      irc logs are http://irc.koha-community.org/irclog/koha/
14:28 slef         irc logs?
14:28 slef         magnuse: hehe just saw arctic race highlights of stage one. They were in some strange place called something like Bødø
14:27 * druthb     gives drojf a cookie.
14:27 drojf        druthb!
14:26 druthb       drojf!  kf!  oleonard!
14:25 oleonard     Help. You know, with Koha. :)
14:24 magnuse      :-)
14:24 magnuse      ah
14:24 wahanui      i think help is at http://koha-community.org/support/ if no-one here can help.
14:24 magnuse      help?
14:24 oleonard     Thanks for the help magnuse
14:23 kf           bye magnuse
14:21 * magnuse    calls it a week - good luck with the squashing, folks!
14:20 magnuse      yeah, true
14:20 kf           we got too many... because some would not be strictly necessary, but I rather have more than less :)
14:20 kf           we want placeholders like %s
14:19 kf           or you will end up with lots of sentence parts out of context
14:19 kf           that we don't want it to split text when it finds a tt variable
14:19 kf           the problem is
14:19 kf           magnuse: how woud it?
14:18 magnuse      i guess the problem is that the script that parses the templates does not distinguish between TT constructs that add actual text to the page and those that do not?
14:17 * magnuse    never worried about that yet
14:17 magnuse      ah
14:16 kf           sometimes when you want to move the variable for the count or so :)
14:16 magnuse      but does that matter?
14:14 kf           i mean which are TT directives and which are not
14:14 kf           you can figure out what the $s are too... with some looking at he comments
14:14 magnuse      yeah, i'm sure the code responsible for that could do with some tweaking, but i tried to have a look and it was scary...
14:13 oleonard     It just seems odd that it works that way magnuse
14:06 magnuse      ...and that was for oleonard
14:00 magnuse      but when you get e.g. msgid "%s %s No barcode %s " from somewhere else (with one less %s) it gets annoying
13:59 magnuse      (is what i do)
13:59 magnuse      not really, just ignore the %s's and focus on the text
13:48 oleonard     That must be a point of confusion for translators
13:48 oleonard     msgid "%s %s %s No barcode %s "
13:47 oleonard     Why does the translation tool build a string like this in the po file?
13:47 oleonard     ...
13:47 oleonard     If I have a construction in the template like this: [% IF ( loopro.barcode ) %][% loopro.barcode %][% ELSE %]No barcode[% END %]
13:16 * tcohen     needs more coffee, looks like
13:16 tcohen       oh, agreed
13:16 jcamins      I think a substitution is necessary. :(
13:16 jcamins      You'd need four of those.
13:16 jcamins      Ehhh.
13:15 tcohen       what do u think jcamins if I added koha-conf-grs1-site.xml.in and koha-conf-dom-site.xml.in to the packages instead of doing some weird substitutions?
13:14 jcamins      But it won't work if someone chooses GRS-1.
13:13 tcohen       oh, then is not an issue
13:13 jcamins      tcohen: by default, authorities are indexed with DOM.
13:13 * tcohen     crosses fingers
13:12 tcohen       so rebuild zebra is run in DOM mode?
13:12 tcohen       my $auth_index_mode = C4::Context->config('zebra_auth_index_mode') || 'dom';
13:12 kf           tcohen: just got the report from my coworker that the fix for 10663 is now in the live system... cross fingers?
13:11 tcohen       damn
13:11 jcamins      Yes.
13:10 tcohen       do we need entries like  <zebra_auth_index_mode>dom</zebra_auth_index_mode> in the packages?
13:09 kf           it's too wet outside here for fresh air
13:03 jcamins      magnuse: no, speed is not one of the primary concerns with the search rewrite. I just was being appalled by the speed. :)
13:01 * magnuse    needs some fresh air
13:01 Viktor       That was the one yes :)
13:01 tcohen       finally i can connect
13:01 magnuse      i don't think speed is one of the primary concerns there, though?
13:01 magnuse      jcamins should know a bit about that ;-)
13:00 wahanui      search rewrite is probably http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/C_&_P_Search_Rewrite_RFC
13:00 magnuse      search rewrite?
12:59 Viktor       Isn't there a fundraiser somewhere to rewrite search functionality that was picking up speed?
12:59 jcamins      I mean, obviously a lot of the time is spent searching, but we can't avoid that.
12:59 * oleonard   impatiently demands why we don't rule the world yet!
12:58 jcamins      Mostly C4::Search.
12:58 Viktor       True.
12:58 jcamins      One forgets, living in a Koha bubble, that as badly as this system works some times, it's head-and-shoulders above the other systems.
12:58 Viktor       Is this due to bad code in search.pm or other factors?
12:57 jcamins      I mean, non-Koha.
12:57 jcamins      Viktor: I've been pointed to several OPACs that are a lot slower.
12:57 Viktor       Sadly this is quicker than the one we are migrating from.
12:56 Viktor       jcamins I did put it on the wish list when I learned about it :)
12:54 jcamins      Viktor: that's because Plack is so much faster.
12:54 Viktor       (on the ones I'm trying)
12:53 Viktor       I'm a bit surprised - but it does take at least 2seconds until rendering of layout starts and scripts start running.
12:52 jcamins      oleonard: oh, I thought you were surprised it was so high. :P
12:51 oleonard     Better than the 10 I got :P
12:51 jcamins      6.07s.
12:51 * jcamins    tries oleonard's.
12:50 jcamins      Now, that may be specific to the catalogs I knew the URLs for off the top of my head.
12:50 jcamins      oleonard: yeah.
12:50 oleonard     jcamins: 6+ seconds from submitting the search form to having results?
12:49 magnuse      "it's a library opac, this wil take some time"
12:49 Viktor       what?
12:49 magnuse      i guess i somehow don't expect it to be super fast, but that might just be a bad habit
12:49 jcamins      6+ seconds.
12:49 jcamins      I just tried a couple of random catalogs I had a URL for.
12:48 jcamins      Don't you want to know how fast it is without Plack?
12:48 Viktor       jcamins That surprises me
12:48 jcamins      It does.
12:48 magnuse      oh, i thought that was supposed to make it faster
12:48 jcamins      magnuse: with Plack.
12:47 magnuse      jcamins: with or without plack?
12:47 jcamins      Okay, so I'm just really, really impatient. Gotcha. :)
12:47 Viktor       jcamins Faster is always better, but it's not agonizing.
12:43 kf           jcamins: not especially bothered, but faster would be nice of course
12:39 jcamins      (the nice thing about memorizing all the bib numbers... no searches = faster experience)
12:38 jcamins      I'm just wondering if I'm the only one who finds it problematic when doing research in a Koha catalog.
12:38 jcamins      I'm not proposing to fix it.
12:38 jcamins      Hey, I have a question. Is anyone bothered by how long search pages take to load in Koha? I knew it was slow, but I'd forgotten that it takes over two seconds.
12:26 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10421 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle.m.hall, Needs Signoff , Add cron script to delete deleted records
12:26 * magnuse    takes a shot at bug 10421
12:25 magnuse      heh, true
12:22 oleonard     I'm pretty sure they all get QA'ed :P
12:22 oleonard     Having someone say which bugs they wanted QA'ed was not exactly the point of my message yesterday.
12:21 magnuse      yay
12:20 oleonard     magnuse++ # for rallying the troops
12:20 oleonard     rangi++ # for signoffs
12:19 oleonard     That makes more sense.
12:17 jcamins      oleonard: 10704 is badly labelled. It's not on the results page. It's the details page.
12:17 kf           magnuse++ great wrk on gbsd reporting :)
12:17 kf           un
12:17 kf           small difference :)
12:17 kf           oh!
12:17 oleonard     One complains that highlight is carried over even if unhighlight was triggered on the first page. The other complains that highlight isn't carried over at all.
12:16 kf           hm?
12:15 magnuse      contradiction?
12:15 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10704 trivial, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Needs Signoff , Search term highlighting doesn't work beyond the first results page
12:15 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10121 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, NEW , unhighlight doesn't carry over to other pages
12:15 oleonard     Bug 10121 seems to be in contradiction of Bug 10704
12:14 * magnuse    tries to rally the troops
12:06 drojf        hi oleonard
12:01 oleonard     Hi #koha
11:49 kf           heh
11:48 magnuse      nah, he'll get an email from bz, i thought i'd just nag him a little extra here ;-)
11:46 magnuse      ah, ok, i'll do that then
11:42 drojf        magnuse: he does not have a look here often and once told me to better contact him by email
11:38 magnuse      you don't think he will be back, eventually?
11:35 kf           magnuse: i don'tthink he will see it - maybe mail?
11:17 huginn       magnuse: The operation succeeded.
11:17 magnuse      @later tell dpavlin: could you have a look at the latest comments on bug 7844 please?
11:09 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7292 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, julian.maurice, Needs Signoff , new permission for claims
11:09 magnuse      poor old bug 7292 has not been updated since 2013-01-10...
11:03 khall        mornin magnuse!
11:02 magnuse      hiya khall
10:22 * magnuse    sends the qa team cookies
10:22 kf           and QA list exploding?
10:22 drojf        yay!
10:22 kf           :)
10:22 magnuse      Signed Off 90 -> 112
10:21 magnuse      Needs Signoff 157 -> 144
10:21 drojf        oh
10:21 * magnuse    was thinking interms of time, not numbers, sadly...
10:20 drojf        72? woohoo! go magnuse! :)
10:19 magnuse      gbsd is half way done
09:56 kf           drojf++
09:55 kf           heh
09:55 drojf        :P
09:55 drojf        magnuse: only 144 more and you are done \o/
09:53 drojf        magnuse++
09:51 magnuse      yay, finally managed to do a signoff
09:42 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10404 new feature, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Needs Signoff , Add previous/next browsing to staff client search results
09:42 * magnuse    looks at bug 10404
09:37 magnuse      [off] lol
09:36 drojf        [off] dear mailinglist, please provide step by step video tutorial on how to set up amazon server.
09:35 magnuse      [off] we could still earn money off support, though ;-)
09:34 magnuse      [off] i think new aws customers get some ec2 time for free? maybe a month or so?
09:34 magnuse      [off] it *could* be good for testing though, sort of kind of similar to a livecd/dvd
09:34 drojf        [off] i have an excellent idea about that. what if amazon offered that service for free for a year? that would give everybosy else some time to lose customers and drop out of business
09:33 magnuse      [off] hehe yeah
09:32 drojf        [off] i'm looking forward to amazon developing koha then
09:32 slef         http://www.channel4.com/news/government-to-include-amazon-in-its-zero-hours-probe-video and http://www.theguardian.com/business/2013/jul/14/us-tax-avoidance-google-amazon
09:32 drojf        [off] magnuse: that sounds fantastic!
09:32 magnuse      [off] but do we want to recommend that libraries run their own ec2 instances? i think not...
09:31 magnuse      [off] i think the idea is to have an image/ami with koha already on it, so libraries kan just "spin up an instance of koha" and just pay a low fee directly to amazon, without a vendor getting a cut
09:26 slef         ooh there is tv of the arctic race http://tv.eurosport.de/home.shtml
09:25 slef         [off] drojf: yeah, we work for amazon for free so they can keep dodging taxes and abusing workers with "zero-hour" contracts.
09:22 drojf        [off] looks like slef understood it the same way :)
09:21 drojf        [off] i don't understand manos' business idea. we provide appliances to amazon so they can offer koha as a service? maybe i misunderstand completely…
08:38 magnuse      and today is lofoten: http://www.letour.com/arctic-race-of-norway/2013/us/stage-2.html yay!
08:37 magnuse      the weather is much better today than it was yesterday, at least
08:37 magnuse      slef: too bad ;-)
08:32 slef         magnuse: I'm not following the arctic race too closely.
08:18 huginn       magnuse: The operation succeeded.
08:18 magnuse      @later tell tcohen: maybe you can have a look at my followup on bug 10622?
08:12 christophe_c hello #koha
07:48 kf           hi paul_p
07:43 paul_p       kia ora magnuse & others
07:43 magnuse      kia ora paul_p
07:35 kf           magnuse:  :)
07:32 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10622 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Needs Signoff , Add --sip and --nosip switches to koha-list
07:32 * magnuse    looks at bug 10622
07:31 magnuse      hiya kf
07:29 kf           good morning #koha
07:24 magnuse      hm, looks like dcook forgor to do a signoff before he left ;-)
07:21 dcook        Hope the GBSD goes well!
07:21 dcook        Time for me to haul it on out of here
07:06 magnuse      still some work to do, but i call that progress
07:05 dcook        \o/
06:57 magnuse      yay, "needs signoff" is down from 157 to 145!
06:56 wahanui      GBSD is Global Bug Squashing Day
06:56 dcook        GBSD?
06:56 * dcook      tries to recall the time
06:56 dcook        How goes it?
06:56 alex_a       bonjour dcook magnuse
06:55 magnuse      hiya dcook
06:55 dcook        salut alex_a
06:55 dcook        hey ya magnuse
06:54 * magnuse    waves
05:58 cait         :)
05:58 dcook        The Keyword -> Marc mapping allows for a fair bit of flexibility when it's implemented beyond just subtitle..
05:57 dcook        Well, pretty much.
05:57 dcook        I figured out some tricky customizations, so we are able to emulate all the past behaviours we added to the old templates...while still exploiting the power of the XSLT, so...best of both worlds :D
05:57 cait         heh
05:56 * dcook      is hearting the XSLTs
05:55 dcook        If not, folks can always change it
05:55 dcook        I think Enumeration/Chronology sums that up pretty well :)
05:55 huginn       cait: Contains the beginning/ending date(s) of an item and/or the sequential designations used on each part. Dates to be used in this field are chronological designations that identify individual issues of the continuing resource. The sequential designations are usually numeric but can be alphabetic as well. The information may be formatted or unformatted. If the date information has been obtained from a source (1 more message)
05:55 cait         @marc 362
05:55 cait         hi dcook
05:31 dcook        Enumeration/Chronology
05:30 dcook        "Enumeration" might make sense..
05:29 dcook        "Dates of publication/sequential designation" seems like a mouthful and  bit esoteric..
05:28 * dcook      wonders what a good label for the marc 362 would be
05:23 * dcook      waves to cait
05:23 * cait       waves
03:58 dcook        Intriguing
03:56 drojf        https://www.noisebridge.net/pipermail/noisebridge-discuss/2013-August/038824.html
03:41 drojf        sure, why not wake up at half past 5?
02:01 dcook        night tcohen :)
02:01 tcohen       see u tomorrow
02:01 tcohen       bye dcook, #koha
01:54 dcook        hehe
01:53 tcohen       she's not that pissed, looks like we're still getting married anytime soon
01:53 dcook        That sounds valid to me!
01:53 dcook        hehe
01:53 dcook        Yeah, it's been a while since I've gone on IRC or done Koha things at home, as  my wife isn't a huge fan of the koha-hol :p.
01:52 * tcohen     is washing the dishes *and* reading IRC at the same time
01:52 dcook        lol
01:52 tcohen       i've just turned my head to read the IRC, and have been acused of being koha-holic
01:50 dcook        Hmm, that reminds me of the stack waiting me at home..
01:49 tcohen       i'm about to wash the dishes :-D
01:49 dcook        Maybe lunch time can be sign off time :p
01:48 * dcook      has way too many email for a Friday...
01:48 tcohen       :-D
01:48 dcook        It's only 11:48am here
01:48 dcook        If I get some time later in the day, I'll look at it :)
01:47 dcook        :p
01:47 * tcohen     thoght no one would notice :-P
01:47 dcook        Or rather the autofill didn't work..
01:47 tcohen       it isn't GBSD here yet
01:47 dcook        I clicked on the wrong cordoba :p
01:47 dcook        Ah, my mistake
01:47 tcohen       no no, its 22:47
01:47 dcook        Is it really nearly 4am there, tcohen?
01:46 dcook        Holy...
01:46 dcook        Cool beans
01:46 dcook        Mmm
01:46 tcohen       yes, its a couple of clicks/reload less
01:46 dcook        I remember you can change your framework after you click "Import" on a record
01:45 tcohen       about what dcook?
01:45 tcohen       says oleonard email
01:45 tcohen       "Global bug squashing day 2013-08-09"
01:45 dcook        Now that I think about it, I totally get the value of this
01:45 * dcook      is remarkably unaware today
01:44 dcook        Is it GBSD today?
01:44 tcohen       heh
01:44 tcohen       if we are on GBSD i cannot be hammered for mentioning bugs i'm interested to get signed
01:44 dcook        Oh..
01:44 * dcook      looks at the bug
01:43 dcook        I thought that was already there though?
01:43 dcook        Nice one!
01:43 dcook        Sweet
01:43 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10678 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Needs Signoff , Allow framework selection when creating from Z39.50
01:43 tcohen       bug 10678 is a nice and harmless improvement
01:36 tcohen       hi drojf