Time Nick Message 23:56 dcook mtj: Just noticed bgkriegel's email about having a script to scrape and parse the LoC MARC sites. That's awesome! 23:48 dcook rangi: Awesome to hear :) 23:47 dcook magnuse++ I quite like the way he wrote that 23:46 cjh open source ILS + open linked data = WIN 23:45 dcook http://libriotech.no/blogs/semantikoha 23:45 dcook Mmm, I'd forgotten a bout semantikoha... 23:44 cjh semantic koha sounds awesome 23:44 rangi but gmcharlt has plans too 23:43 rangi im hoping we head towards magnus' semantikoha 23:43 rangi there definitely are 23:42 dcook I'm wondering if there are any post-MARC plans or if it's more so just on the wishlist atm 23:42 dcook I just remembered that there was that module maintainer idea... 23:42 dcook gmcharlt: Are you around? 23:42 dcook Now that I think about it... 23:41 dcook Pretty much :p 23:41 cjh talking to yourself in public again? 23:41 cjh heh 23:41 dcook That's more an internal/self-directed comment than anything else :p 23:41 dcook Yet another reason to move away from TT templates for search/detail displays... 23:40 * dcook nods 23:40 rangi adn with the xslt, you can easily just type rda in the box to use the rda xslt 23:40 rangi exactly 23:39 dcook Having RDA options will be great (yay mtj and bgkriegel), but I think post-MARC work will be the most valuable going forward 23:38 dcook something to be said for* 23:38 dcook There's something to be keeping up but not dwelling... 23:38 dcook rangi: Pretty much 23:38 dcook Mind you, ideally, a system where librarians/sysadmins could pick and choose which fields to show in a user-friendly way would be awesome 23:38 rangi tick the RDA box 23:38 rangi i want to follow a trend that even the LOC have moved off of 23:37 rangi yep 23:37 dcook But having an option is good 23:37 dcook But yes, I like the idea of not having the default necessarily have those RDA fields 23:37 rangi its why without a crosswalk 23:37 rangi depending on who you get your records from 23:37 dcook Mmm 23:37 rangi and only some 23:37 dcook new books or new editions, I suppose 23:36 rangi is what we are saying 23:36 rangi RDA for new books 23:36 rangi but it does limit the usefulness 23:36 rangi exactly 23:36 dcook rangi: Fortunately no one is that mad? 23:36 papa well hello! 23:36 dcook Mmm, I see what you're saying 23:36 eythian papa: good work on yesterday's sign-off binge :) 23:36 rangi no one afaik is going back through all the already catalogued stuff 23:36 eythian hello papa 23:36 rangi they might have caught up with the amount that arent in aarc2 23:36 dcook So if they're copy cataloguing, they're going to be getting those RDA records 23:36 rangi and in 1038 years 23:36 dcook Especially at places like LoC and LibrariesAustralia 23:35 rangi yep 23:35 dcook An increasing number of people are cataloguing using RDA, me thinks 23:35 rangi its both 23:35 dcook It's that the people won't use them 23:35 dcook It's not that the records won't use them 23:35 dcook Well.. 23:35 * dcook nods 23:35 rangi lets not make the current xslt bigger and slower for fields thatn .0000001% of records will ever use 23:34 rangi and anglophones (and germans) 23:34 dcook rangi: That could work 23:34 rangi only for marc21 23:34 rangi or rda 23:34 dcook It does refer to a new description 'standard' (or anti-standard) and a set of MARC changes 23:34 rangi ppl can type default 23:34 rangi xslt one 23:34 rangi id make a new RDA one 23:34 dcook Well, it's not necessarily a buzzword 23:33 cjh dcook: because RDA is a cool buzzword and koha must be fully buzzword-compliant 23:33 dcook I've seen them in the Library of Congress catalogue, but that's about it 23:33 dcook While I agree in theory, I'm not sure how that information should be presented. As rangi mentioned, I'm not sure anyone actually knows "why" they need RDA fields. 23:32 dcook Oh? 23:32 dcook I suppose with custom XSLTs, there is no reason to change the existing XSLT or TT templates 23:32 mtj dcook, the next task is to update the xslt files, for those new MARC fields too 23:31 eythian s/I.*/yet./ ;) 23:31 dcook mtj: Yay! 23:31 eythian no nothing, I typed the wrong version number 23:31 mtj dcook, yep, i think everyone agrees on that point :) 23:31 cjh what did I break 23:31 eythian rangi: yeah, it was a thinko 23:31 rangi bgkriegel does 3.10.x 23:31 rangi eythian: cjh does 3.8.x 23:30 eythian cheers 23:30 bgkriegel ok, I''ll look asap 23:30 dcook That's why I'm glad that you're deciding to update the frameworks. I think they those fields should be in the default framework since they are part of the official spec 23:30 bgkriegel :) 23:30 eythian 3.10 23:30 eythian err 23:30 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10367 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, robin, Pushed to Stable , Allow packages to work on debian wheezy 23:30 eythian bgkriegel: are you able to have a look into putting bug 10367 into 3.8? 23:29 dcook Yep yep 23:29 mtj dcook, something i have recently realised… the MARC21 update-16 spec, includes all those RDA fields 23:29 wahanui hola, bgkriegel 23:29 bgkriegel hi 23:29 wizzyrea nengard - about? 23:28 pianohacker healed perfect, thanks to having a physical therapist for a mom :) 23:28 pianohacker mtj: Yeah, broke some fingers falling off my bike a few years ago 23:28 mtj yes, indeed 23:27 dcook I don't think it's quite complete but perhaps a good baseline? 23:27 mtj dcook, whats up? 23:27 dcook mtj: Awesome that you want to update the MARC21 fields/subfields :D. I'm sure you already know but I think rangi has already done quite a bit of that in terms of frameworks: http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/MARC_frameworks 23:27 mtj pianohacker, didnt you break your arm falling off your bike? 23:27 eythian bgkriegel: about? 23:26 wahanui bgkriegel was last seen on #koha 3 hours, 28 minutes and 14 seconds ago, saying: Viktor, there is a problem in the translate server. I will look at that, [Mon Jun 3 19:58:45 2013] 23:26 eythian wahanui: seen bgkriegel 23:26 mtj dcook, yes-ish :) 23:26 dcook mtj: You around? 23:26 dcook mtj++ 23:26 eythian probably don't need to do anything. 23:25 tcohen I agree, what can I do to help you? 23:25 eythian that way it's only work for me, not everyone :) 23:25 eythian tcohen: It might be easier if I just made a 3.12.0.1 release, rather than needing to change the release schedule. 23:23 pianohacker oy vey. Firefox's XSLT processor returns the same error code for 25 separate errors... 23:23 tcohen what do u think? is it worth? 23:22 eythian hi 23:22 tcohen hi eythian 23:01 pianohacker mtj: I did have a surgery recently, but you may be thinking of someone else :) 22:55 mtj hey pianohacker, did your busted arm heal up ok? 22:52 mtj ...would be a nice win to sort that 22:52 wizzyrea hehe, no, silly. 22:52 * druthb hides Pixel 22:52 druthb wizzyrea is skinning cats now? 22:51 mtj i'll do some tests with returns, using a 7-days dropbox, and see what happens 22:51 druthb :-O 22:51 wizzyrea so, several ways to skin that cat I think 22:50 mtj yep... 22:50 wizzyrea and give up a weeks worth of fines but not annoy people 22:49 mtj ...its been a while since ive looked at the accountlines code/tables 22:49 wizzyrea OR they could set a fine grace period of the max number of days 22:49 wizzyrea dropbox mode already does that? 22:48 mtj obviously, the biggie is rolling back the fines... 22:47 wizzyrea "if you'd like to know when we check in your items -> procedure for doing that from the opac" 22:47 mtj eythian++ yeah, good idea 22:47 wizzyrea "we are only here on Tuesday, so you can safely ignore this if your item is in the dropbox" 22:47 wizzyrea ^^ 22:47 eythian it'd be easy enough to add a note saying "if you've already returned it, those fines won't be applied" or something 22:46 wizzyrea and turn on checkin notices, they'd get an email when it's checked in 22:46 mtj that would now be invalid 22:46 wizzyrea but no fines, which is what they're really concerned about 22:45 mtj ...people would have gotten various emails about their overdue item 22:44 mtj hmm, i wonder what are the gotchas around a setting a configable $days value for dropbox? 22:41 wizzyrea heheheheheh 22:40 pianohacker if its mom is a databot, its uncle is a lorebot 22:40 wizzyrea well that would be super fancy 22:39 mtj wizzyrea, thanks for the info - its good to have the SCO behaviour confirmed 22:39 gmcharlt wizzyrea: tell, and to be fancy, deduce the likely last date open from the calendar 22:39 wizzyrea curses. 22:39 wizzyrea doh rogue apostrophe 22:39 huginn` wizzyrea: The operation succeeded. Quote #255 added. 22:39 wizzyrea @quote add <gmcharlt> if wahanui is an infobot, does that make it's mom a databot? 22:39 * wizzyrea giggles 22:39 gmcharlt if wahanui is an infobot, does that make its mom a databot? 22:39 wizzyrea or tell dbm the last date you were open 22:38 wizzyrea you heard me 22:38 wahanui wizzyrea: excuse me? 22:38 wizzyrea it's your mom, wahanui. 22:38 wahanui hmmm... something is fishy 22:38 wizzyrea or something 22:38 wizzyrea "library was last open X days ago" 22:38 wizzyrea if dropbox mode is configurable, they can set the number of days, preferably on the return screen 22:37 mtj hmm, we might have to go for the quifkfix here, and add a syspref to allow this SCO behaviour 22:37 eythian that might be an unusual case though 22:37 eythian it would get confusing when they're open, say, two days. 22:36 * wizzyrea can relate to libraries only open a few days a week 22:35 wizzyrea it would be highly desirable to have dropbox mode be configurable 22:35 mtj hmm, thats a good point wiz 22:35 wizzyrea iirc you can only set dropbox mode for 1 day back? 22:35 mtj ...so this library wants to allow people to return items via the SCO, even if they have fines, etc 22:35 wizzyrea sounds like more of a bug with dropbox mode 22:34 mtj …but the dropboxed items dont get scanned for x days, and accure fines 22:33 wahanui i heard eythian was great at jokes. That everyone else misses them isn't his problem. 22:33 mtj heya eythian 22:33 mtj so they leave their items in the dropbox 22:33 eythian hi 22:33 mtj some punters who have a $1 fine, cant return their items via SCO 22:32 mtj we've got a tricky situ with a library whos librarian works 1 day a week... 22:31 mtj yeah, i totally get that too 22:30 mtj 'SCOAllowReturnIfPatronBlocked' 22:30 wizzyrea I guess the thinking is that the staff want tto talk to people that have books that long overdue? 22:30 mtj so, some syspref would need to be created to override that behaviour 22:29 mtj hmmm, ok... 22:28 wizzyrea people would squeal, I think, if that went away 22:28 wizzyrea at least, for one library's value of intended 22:28 wizzyrea yes, it's intended - especially if the item is missing 22:27 mtj 3/ attempt to return either item, via the sco 22:26 mtj 2/ issue another item, with a datedue set to 1 year ago 22:26 mtj 1/ issue an item 22:25 mtj good news - the bug is pretty easy to reproduce 22:25 mtj . 22:24 mtj …is there a possibility that someone has designed this behaviour, as a intended feature? 22:23 mtj afaict, this is a bug that needs fixing 22:23 mtj i ask, as i have experienced this behaviour in master 22:21 mtj is there any reason why a library would want to stop a patron from returning an item (via the SCO) if that patron has a BLOCKED account? 22:20 mtj hi peeps, i need some koha advice on a SCO bug... 21:48 rangi was just the xisbn test 21:48 jcamins I didn't even know that master was broken. \o/ 21:36 cait1 good night all 21:29 rangi yay 21:28 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #1215: FIXED in 1 hr 17 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/1215/ 21:28 jenkins_koha Yippie, build fixed! 20:22 jvr thank you all 20:22 wahanui jvr: that doesn't look right 20:22 jvr change sql to |date and it works on 3.8 20:21 cait1 <<last seen... 20:20 cait1 hm in 3.10 that might work: <last seen|date>> 20:20 wahanui jcamins: I forgot 3.8 and 3.10 20:20 jcamins wahanui: forget 3.8 and 3.10 20:19 wahanui 3.8 and 3.10 are going along ok - I don't know if there's all that much to say about it 20:19 jvr 3.8 and 3.10 20:19 jvr SELECT b.title, i.barcode, i.itemcallnumber, IF(i.onloan IS NULL, '', 'checked out') AS onloan FROM biblio b LEFT JOIN items i USING (biblionumber) WHERE datelastseen < <<Last seen before (yyyy-mm-dd)>> AND i.homebranch=<<Home branch|branches>> ORDER BY datelastseen DESC, i.itemcallnumber ASC 20:18 jvr until last year it was functioning ok 20:18 cait1 which version of koha are oyu using? 20:18 cait1 so how does the sql look like? 20:18 jvr reports 20:17 wahanui "What are you trying to do?" or "What is the goal?" 20:17 cait1 first question? 20:17 jvr the text box is missing 20:17 jvr Last seen before (yyyy-mm-dd): text 20:17 jvr How do I solve this problem 20:17 jvr Hi, anyone 20:16 * rangi takes kids to school 20:11 jenkins_koha Starting build #1215 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #1210 4 days 4 hr ago) 20:11 jenkins_koha rangi: job koha_master build scheduled now 20:11 rangi !jenkins build koha_master now 20:08 tcohen cya 20:08 tcohen bye mtj, #koha 20:07 mtj indeed :D 20:07 tcohen (more fun that things that were already solved heh) 20:06 tcohen heh 20:06 tcohen i thought i should waste my time in something more fun 20:06 tcohen hi mtj 20:05 tcohen now bash tells me what branch i'm in if its a git repo 20:05 mtj tcohen++, aah yes, i saw your bashrc screenshot - very nice! 20:05 tcohen I managed to use some colors and preserve line-wrap functionality 20:05 tcohen sharing my PS1 from my .bashrc 20:04 Viktor Thanks cait1 20:04 * mtj waves to #koha 20:04 cait1 tcohen: trying to scare us? :) 20:04 cait1 yep 20:04 tcohen PS1='\[\033[01;32m\]\u@\h\[\033[00m\]:\[\033[01;34m\]\W\[\033[00m\]$(__git_ps1 "\[\e[1;33m\](%s)\[\e[0m\]")$ ' 20:03 Viktor Aha - So \\n should be translated to \n instead? :) 20:03 tcohen hi rangi 20:03 cait1 i think file a bug for those you find 20:03 cait1 but somehow somehwere an additional \ gets added 20:03 cait1 no actually it should be \n 20:02 cait1 yeah i have manually edited the po files in the past and then it was right I think, but probably safer to try and avoid 20:02 Viktor So If they se a \n they should translate it to \\n? 20:02 Viktor They translate offline. 20:01 cait1 and that way you end up with \\n which shows as \n 20:01 cait1 pootle or the translation scripts? add an extra \ whatever you do 20:01 cait1 i think yes 20:00 Viktor I've read up on the mail from today. I've told the translators to keep everything as it is, but if I understand correctly they should loose the newlines if they see any? 19:59 Viktor Thanks cait1 19:59 Viktor Thanks bgkriegel ! 19:58 bgkriegel Viktor, there is a problem in the translate server. I will look at that, 19:55 cait1 we had a mailing list mail about that i answered tody 19:55 cait1 better use single quotes in that case or no quotes 19:55 Viktor Aha! 19:55 cait1 they create problems 19:55 cait1 try to get rid of the \ 19:54 Viktor The translators had a question I couldn't answer myself. Do you translate the full string when it's formated like: "\"Basic Parameters\" is where library policies are set and governed. It is best to set your system preferences a..." 19:53 Viktor Uploading (slowly) just now. 19:51 Viktor Ok - I'll give it a try. Thanks 19:50 cait1 hm that usually works fine 19:50 Viktor I did an overwrite. 19:50 cait1 it looks like the file is not there, maybe upload it again? 19:50 cait1 Viktor: did yo uoverwrite or merge on upload? 19:50 cait1 it went ot german when i logged in.. *sigh* 19:49 cait1 oh 19:49 cait1 just the counter seems off? 19:49 cait1 it looks fine when you go to the page 19:49 cait1 h 19:48 Viktor They did the opac just fine. 19:48 Viktor cait1 Yep. Just tried to upload the first delivery from our translators of the staff interface. 19:47 cait1 Viktor: hm have you uploaded a new file? 19:47 Viktor A little embarrassed - did I break something with the staff interface translation? http://translate.koha-community.org/sv/312/ 19:43 cait1 yah :( 19:41 rangi anti features ftw! 19:41 rangi that is why proprietary software sux 19:41 rangi We have a limited number of licenses, so your access may be blocked if 5 other libraries are logged in. <-- that 19:40 cait1 [off] aah 19:40 rangi [off] scls are running fauxha 4.14 or something 19:40 rangi [off] no amount of nicely asking will make them stop implying its actual koha either, 4 years of code divergence now 19:40 cait1 [off] fauxha? 19:39 rangi [off] looks like the fauxha people are crystal reports users http://scls.typepad.com/link2koha/2013/06/access-to-the-crystal-reports-dashboard-now-available.html 19:39 rangi hmm 19:38 rambutan1 locks onto the channel and nick, rather 19:37 rambutan1 yea, daem chat in thunderbird locks on to the chat, even if I don't have chat open there 19:37 rangi hi cait1 and druthb 19:37 rangi you have to wait for that to time out 19:37 rangi rambutan [~Thunderbi@rhclbsc.rhcl.org] 19:37 * druthb waves to pianohacker and jcamins and rangi 19:36 * jcamins didn't know that. 19:36 cait1 morning rangi 19:36 wahanui interesting is sometimes good and sometimes bad 19:36 jcamins Interesting. 19:36 jcamins Oh, that's because kick is for channels. 19:36 pianohacker oh jeeze 19:36 rangi kick only kicks you out of the channel, the nick is server wide 19:36 rambutan1 no, and in fact it is registered to somebody else, which is clearly the problem 19:36 pianohacker rambutan1: Do you have your nick registered? If so, you can tell nickserv to knock rambutan off the server 19:35 jcamins Apparently that kick wasn't effective enough. 19:35 rambutan1 oh well 19:35 rambutan1 can't 19:35 rambutan1 well, I still can change my nick to rambutan 19:34 wahanui it has been said that next time is in 87 years or something... ;-) 19:34 jcamins Next time. 19:34 jcamins Hm. I should've gone with /kick rambutan Bwahahahaha! 19:31 rambutan1 jcamins: can you kick rambutan plz and tnx 19:31 cait1 :) 19:31 cait1 hi druthb 19:30 druthb o/ 19:28 cait1 hi tcohen :) 19:28 tcohen hi cait1 19:26 * cait1 waves 19:19 tcohen its a pity i wasted those valiable minutes! 19:16 jcamins Not necessarily. 19:16 tcohen oh, I didn't find it, I thought everything related to validity was inside xt 19:15 jcamins t/00-valid-xml.t :) 19:15 jcamins tcohen: we already have a unit test for valid XML. 19:00 rambutan1 no 18:59 tcohen is it holiday on the US? 17:31 jcamins Nifty. 17:30 pianohacker huh, but screen does: http://www.gnu.org/software/screen/manual/html_node/Digraph.html 17:30 tweetbot [off] twitter: @jsicot: "des gens qui utilisent la fcté "mise à dispo" dans Koha avec notification par mail ? #KohaILS" 17:28 jcamins Doesn't look like it. 17:28 jcamins l 17:28 jcamins I didn't think so, but I guess it's possible. 17:27 pianohacker no kidding. Does irssi have builtin digraph support, like vim? 17:27 jcamins Weird, eh? 17:27 jcamins Yeah, I was on my phone. 17:27 pianohacker what? 17:27 pianohacker oh. wait 17:27 jcamins Yeah, but my phone doesn't have one! 17:26 pianohacker compose key ftw 17:26 jcamins And I don't really know how I ended up with ł. 17:26 jcamins pianohacker: right, the reason for that was surely that I hit ł instead of slash when changing windows earlier... right? 17:25 pianohacker I was talking about jvr, but accidental <Compose>-/-l ? 17:25 jcamins pianohacker: Apparently if you use a ł instead of a slash, weird things happen. 17:24 pianohacker ... ? 17:22 * jvr slaps jvr around a bit with a large fishbot 17:14 jcamins łwin 3 17:09 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10184 trivial, P5 - low, ---, colin.campbell, Pushed to Stable , Circulation History reverses sort order 17:09 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10193 trivial, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Stable , Copies should be holdings as label for items on MARC view 17:09 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7368 trivial, P5 - low, ---, m.de.rooy, ASSIGNED , General staff client typo omnibus 17:09 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10284 minor, P5 - low, ---, katrin.fischer, Pushed to Stable , Missing spaces between label and content in XSLT view for 785/780 17:09 jenkins_koha * Colin Campbell: Bug 10184 - Circulation History reverses sort order 17:09 jenkins_koha * Owen Leonard: Bug 10193 - Copies should be holdings as label for items on MARC view 17:09 jenkins_koha * Connor Fraser: Bug 7368: Correct three typos in history.txt 17:09 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10120 major, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Pushed to Stable , Fine recalculation on return needs to be a system preference 17:09 jenkins_koha * Katrin Fischer: Bug 10284: Add missing spaces between label and content in XSLT view (780/785) 17:09 jenkins_koha * Tomas Cohen Arazi: Bug 10120: DBRev 3.12.00.001 17:09 jenkins_koha * Chris Cormack: Bug 10120: Adding a syspref to control if overdue charges are updated on return 17:09 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.12.x build #50: SUCCESS in 42 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.12.x/50/ 16:27 jenkins_koha Starting build #50 for job Koha_3.12.x (previous build: SUCCESS) 16:26 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9744 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, pelletiermaxime, Pushed to Master , Add a column Fund name on the home page of acquisitions 16:26 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10290 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , UT: VirtualShelves.t needs to create its own data 16:26 jenkins_koha * Owen Leonard: Bug 9744 - Add a column Fund name on the home page of acquisitions 16:26 jenkins_koha * Marcel de Rooy: Bug 10290: Followup for Virtualshelves.t 16:26 jenkins_koha * Jonathan Druart: Bug 10290: UT: VirtualShelves.t needs to create its own data 16:26 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #1214: STILL UNSTABLE in 1 hr 15 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/1214/ 15:59 tcohen c'mon jenkins_koha, launch that 3.12.x build 15:11 jenkins_koha Starting build #1214 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #1210 3 days 23 hr ago) 15:11 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10313 normal, P5 - low, ---, colin.campbell, Pushed to Stable , selecting an invoice from the historic orders page does not take you to that invoice 15:11 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10310 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Stable , Prevent submit form pressing enter should be improved 15:11 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9507 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Stable , Some code used to prevent form from being unexpectedly submitted is duplicated 15:11 jenkins_koha * Colin Campbell: Bug 10313 Fix link to invoice from orders 15:11 jenkins_koha * Jonathan Druart: Bug 10310: Followup Prevent submitting form with enter does not work with IE 15:11 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10036 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Stable , adding header search to additem page 15:11 jenkins_koha * Jonathan Druart: Bug 10310: Prevent submitting form with enter does not work with IE 15:11 jenkins_koha * Jonathan Druart: Bug 9507: prevent submit: refactor some code in a js file 15:11 jenkins_koha * Owen Leonard: Bug 10036 - adding header search to additem page 15:11 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.12.x build #49: SUCCESS in 45 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.12.x/49/ 14:55 huginn` New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 9744 - Add a column Fund name on the home page of acquisitions <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=ed8e506953b78de0a09b87011709281054641ab0> 14:44 huginn` New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 10290: Followup for Virtualshelves.t <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=1ef99ace2043d75889830c4c0af8af3e9e36104e> / Bug 10290: UT: VirtualShelves.t needs to create its own data <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=44905ac99cee8ddca6c63752d948a74afae20194> 14:35 Joubu Joubu: yep :) 14:34 tcohen jonathan druart around? 14:26 jenkins_koha Starting build #49 for job Koha_3.12.x (previous build: SUCCESS) 14:14 tcohen bgkriegel++ # you'll see #koha 14:11 huginn` gmcharlt: Quote #167: "<sekjal> yes, major project. very important" (added by chris_n at 07:58 PM, November 18, 2011) 14:11 gmcharlt @quote random 14:01 tcohen (and reports) 14:01 tcohen to our librarians, and focus on acq 14:01 tcohen i'll introduce 3.12 next week 14:00 kf we got 2 out of 11 who do 14:00 tcohen as we still don't use them 14:00 kf i know ther are not so many libraries using acq right now 14:00 tcohen its my weakest bit 14:00 kf feel free to ask me if you have any more problems :) 14:00 tcohen i'll study them from now 14:00 kf oh good 14:00 tcohen i never used acq before 14:00 tcohen yes, it worked 14:00 kf ? 14:00 kf tcohen: did it work 13:48 kf for acq that's quite important 13:48 kf oh yes 13:48 tcohen oh, I should create a user 13:48 kf i think it might be consuing budget/fund 13:48 kf and a fund that is usable by your user? 13:48 tcohen yes 13:48 kf did yo define one? 13:48 kf hm not so far 13:48 tcohen did u see that? 13:47 tcohen kf: acq keeps telling me I have to define a budget 13:45 kf tcohen: hm not sure, i would maybe check git for how it's been done in the past 13:15 tcohen how should I handle the DB numbering? 13:15 tcohen gmcharlt. kf: 10120 add a new syspref 13:12 tcohen besides that, the marc record checker plugin is nice 13:12 tcohen is it possible to tell marc::lint not to warn about $9 fields? 13:02 tcohen like "we wan't packages to work on wheeze" 13:02 tcohen #koha, are there experiences of out-of-schedule releases? 12:58 kf tcohen: thanks :) 12:54 tcohen i'll take a look 12:50 kf but the change itself is pretty clear, just adding an if construct in the right place 12:50 kf it missed 3.12 because it has a string change (new pref) 12:49 kf could you consider this for 3.12.x? 12:49 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10120 major, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Pushed to Master , Fine recalculation on return needs to be a system preference 12:49 kf bug 10120 12:49 tcohen :) 12:49 kf tcohen: I've got a request :) 12:48 kf hi tcohen :) 12:47 tcohen morning #koha 12:26 kf now the only question that remains is if my comments made any sense:) 12:26 kf yeah 12:21 jcamins Figured it out? 12:19 kf jcamins++ 12:11 kf jcamins: I did 12:08 jcamins It is somewhere in the vicinity of Union Square, but no matter how many times I go to events there, I forget exactly where. 12:08 jcamins There is something about Metro that makes it impossible for me to remember where it is. 12:06 nengard heh 12:06 kf ew :) 12:06 jcamins Right, you have to click that link and add content. 12:05 kf nly adds red links 12:05 kf hm that doesn't look right 12:04 jcamins Double brackets: [[User:kf|Katrin Fischer]] 12:04 * kf gives up 12:03 kf hm [] didn't work 12:03 jcamins kf: if you mean on the wiki, you put it in square brackets, I think. 12:00 kf hm no magnuse 11:59 kf or how do i create a link to my user? 11:56 kf khall: done - look for KF :) 11:56 nengard thanks 11:56 nengard good stuff 11:55 jcamins nengard: that looks okay to me. 11:55 jcamins [off] https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-frc1/485610_10100171809629169_1509993331_n.jpg 11:54 nengard updated: http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=kohadocs.git;a=commit;h=ceca7766b638435aeba4cd87a4349d1d10addfc7 11:54 kf spoiling myshkin's fun again? 11:54 kf heh 11:50 * jcamins unplugs his mouse to protect his computer from excessive cat clicking. 11:50 jcamins And I always encourage people to use packages, but if you're using packages you're a lot less likely to have gotten your system into that situation. 11:50 nengard thanks!! 11:49 nengard see .. that's why I asked :) 11:49 jcamins Right. 11:49 nengard so it's only specific for pacakge sites 11:49 jcamins What I'd say is add the suggested changes under the heading "If you are using packages, run..." 11:48 jcamins nengard: re: your e-mail: I'm not comfortable with that change. 11:47 khall kf: that's fine. thanks! 11:47 dcook Bonne nuit, tout le monde. I'll be back in...11.25 hours 11:47 kf khall: i will put it under the headings if that's ok 11:47 kf good night dcook 11:47 dcook On that note, I think it's time for bed 11:46 nengard hehe 11:46 dcook I forget sometimes that #koha has a whole 'nother life at a different time of day 11:46 dcook hey ya nengard 11:44 nengard and all 11:44 nengard hi dcook 11:34 khall that way we can keep everything centralized 11:34 khall df: yeah, just mark up whatever you want, or just add the comments to the top or bottom of the page. 11:33 kf khall: do you just want to note on the wiki page itself? 11:33 jcamins kf: ^^ that was for you 11:33 jcamins khall: yeah, I think so. 11:33 kf it might be worth checking what information we need to keep to abide by laws and the like 11:33 khall I believe we have a CPA on staff, so I can ask her! 11:33 kf iirc 11:33 kf i think that was what they did for koha 1.0 11:32 khall jcamins: that's a good idea. 11:32 khall all the new tables have primary keys. Fees in one table, payments in one table, a fee_payments join table, and an account offsets table 11:32 jcamins khall: The one concern I have is that the structure follow generally-acceptable accounting practices. Have you run this by a CPA? (and preferably their equivalent in a Civl Law country as well?) Because that seems like it would be really important. 11:31 kf and i have ot use evil javascript to make it a little better 11:31 kf and the user sees it in the opac 11:31 khall kf: I completely agree 11:31 kf because it's not translatable 11:31 kf we actually write payment thanks there... for example. which is horrible 11:31 kf not only for selecting fines, but also for storing information for display there 11:30 kf khall: one big request i have is to stop the misuse of the description column 11:30 khall kf: done 11:28 khall yeah, one moment 11:27 kf I don't want to interfere 11:27 kf tell me when you updated the wiki page? 11:27 kf that's ok 11:27 kf :) 11:27 khall kf, that is. It's too early to be typing 11:27 dcook \o/ 11:27 khall df: you can just put them on the wiki with your nick appended. 11:26 khall One thing I promise is the rewrite will be rock solid with a full suite of unit tests. 11:26 kf where to best leave my notes? 11:26 kf khall: cool 11:26 khall I'll go ahead and fix it now 11:26 kf so I can draw on it 11:26 kf looking at the printout right now :) 11:25 kf i did 11:25 khall kf: did you find the rfc? http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Accounting_system_rewrite 11:25 jcamins Right. It looked fine to me. 11:24 kf sorry, i must have missed it 11:24 jcamins Ah. 11:24 kf ah 11:24 * dcook waves to nengard 11:24 khall I sent a mail about it to the dev list. I don't think I received either any replies to the email, or any edits to the RFC 11:24 kf i missed it totally until running into the bug - that's why I wondered if maybe a mail to the mailing list would help 11:23 kf khall: probably not a lot of people saw it :) 11:23 khall the accounts/fines rewrite 11:23 jcamins I'm not even sure what RFC you're talking about? 11:23 khall kf that is ^ 11:23 khall df: comment 32 pretty much sums it up. I received 0 comments from the RFC writeup. 11:20 kf 9129 11:20 kf 0129 11:20 kf i am not good with numbers 11:20 kf it was... the maxfine thing 11:20 kf hmm 11:20 khall do you remember the bug number off hand? 11:19 kf and i left you a note on the bug - asking if maybe you could send a link to an updated page to the mailing list? 11:19 khall sure! 11:19 kf and wondering at a couple of things :) 11:19 kf just looking at your rfc 11:19 khall what's up? 11:19 khall heh, very lucky timing! 11:18 kf good morning 11:18 kf magic :) 11:18 kf aah 11:18 khall good morning! 11:18 kf khall: around? 11:14 dcook Anyway, night, wizzyrea :) 11:13 dcook There's more than one? 11:13 dcook Small people? 11:12 wizzyrea like a person with small people 11:12 wizzyrea pft 11:12 wizzyrea I know you can do it! 11:12 dcook Like a reasonable person ;) 11:11 wizzyrea 7 or so hours :P 11:11 wizzyrea from now until...... later 11:11 dcook Sure 11:11 wizzyrea dcook - pm me the name of the thinger you're lookin at eh? 11:11 dcook Well, I can't promise because I don't know how long you'll be sleeping :p 11:11 wizzyrea don't kill koha-community.org while I'm sleeping. 11:11 dcook :S 11:11 dcook I said that I wanted to learn the basics... 11:10 wizzyrea oh dear. 11:10 wizzyrea ok to bed with me 11:10 dcook I'm sure it'll be useful once we get past the difference between strings and numbers... 11:10 wizzyrea for some value of productive 11:10 wizzyrea that probably qualifies as productive 11:10 dcook Partner has a friend over, so I'm minding my business in the study. Watching programming videos rather than doing anything productive... 11:09 dcook Only 9:09 11:09 kf ^^ 11:09 jcamins Isn't it kind of late for you? 11:09 jcamins Neither do I. 11:09 jcamins Hehe. 11:09 dcook Go to bed late and get up early? I don't know how you and kf do it. 11:08 dcook O_O 11:08 dcook I think that's usually when I'm looking at my emails on my phone in bed and dreading the trip from the bedroom to the shower. 11:08 jcamins I guess you weren't around any of the days I was around at 5am. 11:08 jcamins Heh. 11:07 dcook Technically :p. 11:07 jcamins That's morning. 11:07 jcamins Ah, good. 11:07 dcook jcamins: That sounds right to me 11:07 jcamins Is the clock wrong? 11:07 jcamins I think. 11:07 jcamins dcook: it's 7am? 11:05 dcook Was it the mention of pumpkin risotto? 11:05 dcook jcamins: Why are you awake? 11:05 dcook Sweet :D 11:05 wizzyrea I can see that it's serving pages lickety split 11:05 dcook I still don't know if I can type out that handle :p 11:04 kf papa++ 11:04 dcook kf: Took me a while to figure that out as well 11:04 dcook wizzyrea: I also have a super slow internet connection at home :) 11:04 kf :) 11:04 kf i have been wondering about that for a while 11:04 kf oh! 11:04 wizzyrea srdjan 11:04 kf hm who is papa? :) 11:04 wizzyrea caching++ 11:04 wizzyrea that's looking nice and fast actually 11:03 wizzyrea papa++ because... it's papa. 11:03 jcamins papa++ 11:03 kf wizzyrea++ btw 11:03 wizzyrea linode 11:03 dcook Where is it hosted? 11:02 dcook I just accidentally closed Chromium as well, so everything I was doing was closed anyway.. 11:02 wizzyrea hehe - LOL 11:02 kf we will try 11:02 * dcook does all the clicks 11:02 kf well we canclick fast tho 11:02 wizzyrea now don't go killing it while I'm sleeping 11:02 dcook Probably :p 11:01 wizzyrea and not overwhelmed, though probably only two of you at once :P 11:01 kf looks quite good to me 11:01 kf :) 11:01 wizzyrea i like fast! 11:01 wizzyrea woot! 11:01 kf like really fast even 11:01 kf wizzyrea: fast for me! :) 11:00 wizzyrea (what's the address) 11:00 wizzyrea ping it please? 11:00 dcook Maybe faster 11:00 dcook Mmm 5-6 seconds to load? 11:00 * wizzyrea likes how this is looking 10:59 wizzyrea (then tell me if it's fast or slow) 10:59 wizzyrea everybody hit koha-community.org at once... go! 10:48 dcook I suppose I'm not entirely sold on the online classes yet though. I haven't found myself very motivated to do these courses, when I could just start experimenting with the technologies... 10:47 dcook Exactly :) 10:47 kf instead of only learning by trial and error :) 10:46 kf that's why I do the distance study... trying to get some basics 10:46 kf :) 10:45 dcook While I can patch Koha just fine and do a reasonably good job with my own programs, I figure it wouldn't hurt to learn the basics, since I sort of just jumped into programming... 10:45 dcook This systematic program design one from UBC (the last uni I went to) on Coursera. 10:44 kf what kind of MOOC are you trying out? :) 10:41 tweetbot [off] twitter: @kohails: "#KohaILS Newsletter communautaire de Koha de mai 2013 http://t.co/CsPyydGUEN" 10:40 dcook I'm trying out these MOOC things, so I figured I could use some extra happy... 10:40 dcook Chocolate definitely helps with the happy 10:40 dcook I think I did get extra kisses because of the chocolate *nod* *nod* 10:39 wizzyrea and I'm sure it doesn't hurt your animal magnetism either. 10:39 dcook I read that as magnetism for a moment ;) 10:39 wizzyrea and makes you feel happy. 10:39 wizzyrea no shame in chocolate, it gives you necessary magnesium :P 10:39 wizzyrea nomnomnomnomnom 10:39 dcook I grabbed a couple bars on the way home from work...*shameface* 10:39 kf yum 10:38 dcook It has whole hazelnuts in it :D 10:38 * kf offerst to take the chocolate off of your hands... 10:37 dcook Now all I need is a new monitor and either to move my tower or get longer headphones...\ 10:37 dcook Thanks :). I was munching on chocolate but this is...yummm 10:36 kf enjoy :) 10:36 kf aah 10:35 dcook My partner just brought some to me :) 10:34 kf what brought that up? 10:33 dcook Mmm, pumpkin risotto... 10:25 tweetbot [off] twitter: @BibLibre: "La version française de la newsletter #Kohails de Mai 2013 vient de sortir - http://t.co/7G6os6WL1x" 10:25 tweetbot [off] twitter: @BibLibre: "For our english followers RT @KohaILS: #KohaILS Koha Community Newsletter: May 2013 http://t.co/ZUbGcnELxq" 10:18 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9761 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, m.de.rooy, Passed QA , Make it possible to confirm future hold requests at checkin time 10:18 marcelr rangi++ for bug 9761 09:49 vfernandes I'm pretty sure it is a configuration issue but let's see :P 09:44 kf i know nothing about ldap - but hoping you can figure out what's going on :) 09:42 vfernandes but I've tested without anonymous search and everything worked fine 09:41 vfernandes ldap can be configured to authorize or not the anonymous bind and search 09:38 kf somoen commented it might be an ldap configuration thing 09:37 vfernandes yes... i've tested with the two forms (anonymous bind and default bind) and everything worked 09:36 gerundio I've already asked for feedback on something, but still waiting for an answer 09:35 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7973 new feature, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, RESOLVED FIXED, Allow for new type of LDAP authentication 09:35 gerundio did you see someone commented on bug 7973 saying it doesn't work in some cases? 09:35 gerundio well thanks, you? 09:34 vfernandes how are you gerundio? 09:33 gerundio hey vfernandes :) 09:28 vfernandes hi :) 09:23 Buddhist saves typos. 09:22 Buddhist then.... I can use for instance the ccodes .. where they can 'choose from a list' 417 Ajahn Chah 09:22 francharb hi dcook 09:22 Buddhist I don't want them to type 417 Ajahn Chah ..... 09:22 Buddhist the thing about 952 o or p is that it is free input, so i prefer it to be short, like 3 decimal,417. 09:21 Buddhist hm.. 09:21 kf but the search options for collection codes are a bit nicer 09:21 kf Buddhist: I was wondering if that info shoudl go rather into the field for itemcallnumber - I think o or p 09:21 Buddhist ?? 09:21 Buddhist ..more confused.... 09:20 wahanui problem is, like, it's human beings doing it. Rebuild your indexes 09:20 Buddhist what problem? 09:20 Buddhist ...? 09:20 * dcook waves to francharb 09:20 Buddhist basically we need to direct the patrons to the 'right shelf'.. 09:20 dcook From the sound of it, you're going to still have the same problem with "417" as you will with "417 Ajahn Chah" 09:19 Buddhist so our 'call' number is not unique (small library) 09:19 Buddhist all the books here are stickerd on their spine with the 'shelf location number', 417 for instance. 09:19 Buddhist well..they don't do that here... 09:19 kf individual call numbers separate from the classification 09:19 Buddhist ..? 09:18 kf hm Buddhist - didn't ask you if you also have callnumbers for your items 09:18 Buddhist before yo uarrived, i was suggested using for instance authorised values...I might use ccodes 09:17 Buddhist the second 'challenge' was to understand how to be able to setup our selfmade classification scheme into koha. 09:17 Buddhist first of all i need the 'correct' call number....therefore in each marc record the librarian has tuck it away in 942. so I just need to copy it out. 09:17 dcook But, in terms of your immediate goals, maybe try Marcedit. I've used it before for wrangling non-standard data, and it works pretty well. 09:16 Buddhist ah... 09:16 Buddhist ... 09:16 dcook Human error is no fun, but I'm not sure that I understand what you're trying to do classification-wise overall. 09:15 dcook Mmm, sort of. 09:15 Buddhist (does that make sense?) 09:15 Buddhist *sigh* 09:15 Buddhist (BECAUSE there are 'also' typos.... in many many many records... 09:14 Buddhist so I want to copy this field 942a to 952o, but inly the decimal, not texts 09:14 Buddhist so... our call number is actually 417. 09:13 Buddhist But never added a 'call number' 09:13 Buddhist the librarian here has imported marcdata in the koha system using for instance z39.50. And added this classification scheme of ours (not standard). So for instance in 942a "417 Ajahn Chah". 09:12 Buddhist well....'sigh'.... 09:12 dcook Just out of curiosity, why are you wanting to do this? 09:12 dcook Hmm, marcedit/writing a script is probably your best bet 09:11 Buddhist (I have few thousand records) 09:11 Buddhist I just wondered how to 'delete' partial data 09:10 Buddhist but I don't want the text bit, "Ajahn Chah", I want only 417 09:10 Buddhist i have a subfield in our marcdata that says for instance "417 Ajahn Chah". 09:10 dcook hi... 09:10 Buddhist hello...dcook 09:08 dcook What are you trying to do, Buddhist? 09:08 * dcook is intrigued 09:08 Buddhist good point! I shall look foir a marcedit mailing list.... 09:08 Buddhist I am skilled in excel..so I might do some exporting importing thing.... 09:08 kf not sure if there is a marcedit mailing list? 09:08 kf but there might also be a way in marcedit - i just don't know it 09:08 kf I think some people would say you could write a script to do that 09:07 kf ah 09:07 Buddhist was just playing with the whois/query and.....trout slapping... 09:07 kf hm h 09:07 Buddhist I figured... :) 09:06 * kf is German 09:06 Buddhist haha... ik ben een nederlander 09:06 kf ah, was wondering about the German :) 09:06 Buddhist near Hemel Hempstead (UK) 09:06 kf Buddhist: where are you located btw? 09:04 Buddhist anyone that knows how to copy partial fieldata form one subfield to another in a marc-record? (or delete parts of subfield with multiple records....) 09:03 Buddhist ok..... 09:02 kf not sure how you can do that with marcedit - sorry 09:02 kf Buddhist: I am at work - so sometimes i have to pay attention to other things ;) 09:02 Buddhist tut mir leid! 09:02 Buddhist haha 09:02 Buddhist didn't know how to get some attention. 09:02 wizzyrea hm yea we don't do much trout slapping round here 09:02 Buddhist sorry about that. 09:02 Buddhist haha 09:02 kf guess i missed the joke? 09:01 kf huh? 09:01 * Buddhist slaps kf around a bit with a large fishbot 08:59 Buddhist ......... 08:57 Buddhist one more question: I am using marcedit to correct the item fields 952. However, I need to copy from another field some data, let's say "942a 417 Ajahn Chah" to a 952c, but I only want 417, not the text. Is there a clever way? 08:54 Buddhist thank you kf, got it, just watch a youtube explanations by bywaters..they are pretty helpful with those vids! 08:47 Buddhist ah.. batch item edit...let's see 08:47 Buddhist I will use 3 numerical numbers as code... thanks for the tip 08:46 Buddhist in the past (we are migrating now) they have used 942 to input this classification (e.g. =942 \\$k190-195 Islam$a190 Islam). 08:46 kf if you can get a list of the barcodes/items you can do it that way 08:45 kf there is a batch item edit feature 08:45 kf to get the search results you want later on - no hyphens - or spaces, best only use short codes made of numbers/letters 08:45 Buddhist also a quick way of adding the 'right' ccode to the right biblio? or do I really need to do this 1 by 1 08:45 kf you should make sure you use good codes 08:45 kf if you are using ccodes or authorized values in general 08:44 kf in general youshouldn't do that to Koha.. but for that table it should be pretty save to do 08:44 kf i have done it in the past when I had a long list 08:44 kf authori[z|s]ed_values or similar 08:43 Buddhist so need to peek in SQL...hm... 08:43 kf if you are good with sql you could add them to the right table 08:42 Buddhist is there also a way to input those ccodes all at once instead of using the web application (adding one by one) 08:42 Buddhist yes.. that would do! 08:41 kf search links... not perfect, but maybe might serve your purpose? 08:41 kf with links that look for more than one code 08:41 kf i think you can also construct a html page 08:41 Buddhist advanced search 08:41 Buddhist ah.... 08:41 kf so the user could check one or more to search for at once 08:40 kf like the itemtypes - with checkboxes 08:40 kf Buddhist: you can make collections searchable in advanced search 08:40 Buddhist It more about showing the user 'relevant' sections of the library 08:40 kf welcome back kenza :) 08:39 kf Buddhist: hm not sure I understand what you want to do 08:37 Buddhist BTW: I am very happy with the shelf browser... that is really cool 08:37 Buddhist ok! and is it possible for koha to aggregrate multiple ccodes into one 'bigger' section? let's say ccode 253 Buddhist in country A until ccode 259 Buddhist in Country Z, aggregrate them into 253-259 Buddhist in specific country 08:36 Buddhist hm.... 08:35 kf i think without programming the browse feature won't be useful - it's been not in use for a while I think and never left experimental status 08:35 kf they get used for all kinds fo things :) classification would probably be a good one 08:34 kf you could 08:34 Buddhist since I don't make use of ccodes, is it wise to use the ccode for this purpose? 08:34 kf there was a start made here I think: http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Opac_browse_feature 08:33 Buddhist before i do that, I wanted to check with you that there is no option in koha made for this purpose (anymore?) 08:32 kf you could define a new authorized value and link it to the item field you use 08:32 Buddhist both please! :) 08:32 kf or do you just want to make it easier to type them in? 08:32 kf some kind of hierarchical browsing the classification? 08:32 Buddhist I wondered whether that can be avoided (using ccodes or loc?) 08:32 kf Buddhist: hmm there was once a feature that might do what you want 08:31 Buddhist The solution at this moment is to 'key in' in every item this 253 - Buddhist in China... sounds like a tedious job. 08:31 Buddhist (we use a 'self-made' classification: example 253 - Buddhist in China 254 Buddhist in Japan... is that possbile to be reflected in koha? 08:30 slef Buddhist: what sort of classification overview? 08:30 Buddhist The thing is, I got some question marks about marc-data, I have adapted the 952 fields and it shows up correctly (after import), but I can't figure out whether KOha allows me to input a classification overview. 08:28 Buddhist hello! 08:28 slef hi kenza 08:28 slef Buddhist: it's one possibility. Others are listed on the website. 08:28 kf hi Buddhist 08:28 kf yes it is 08:27 Buddhist hello! Is this the place to discuss things on using Koha? 08:10 marcelr welcome kenza 08:09 wizzyrea we will try to make it fun ^.^ 08:09 wizzyrea :) 08:09 wizzyrea Hi kenza : 08:07 kf hope you have a good time working on koha :) 08:07 kf hi kenza 08:07 drojf hi kenza! welcome to #koha 08:06 paul_p say hello to kenza, our student starting this morning his 3 months time with BibLibre, to work on Koha 07:37 kf #fixing all the bugs 07:37 kf oleonard++ 07:29 kf oh no germs today? 07:29 dcook night #koha 07:29 * dcook waves to christophe_c 07:24 christophe_c hello #koha 07:21 tweetbot [off] twitter: @kohails: "#KohaILS May 2013 Koha Bugzilla statistics http://t.co/o2AawMBksI" 07:15 marcelr hi gaetan_B 07:15 gaetan_B hello 07:14 marcelr rangi++ 07:08 matts hi ! 07:08 reiveune hi rangi 07:07 rangi hi reiveune and matts 07:07 rangi marcelr: rolled it over 07:05 tweetbot [off] twitter: @paul_poulain: "@kenanscott24 Hi Kenan, nice news about #KohaILS PS : Note our hashtag: #KohaILS, #Koha used by some others (iirc, hockey team)" 07:05 tweetbot [off] twitter: @ranginui: "May 2013 Koha Bugzilla statistics #KohaILS http://t.co/CGcvmhZx0N" 07:01 asaurat hi! 06:58 reiveune hello 06:51 rangi http://bugs.koha-community.org/BAM/index.php?s=Koha&p=Koha&c= 06:51 rangi also 06:51 rangi its all counting anyway in the background :) 06:50 rangi ill roll it over as soon as i do that (tonight once the kids are asleep) 06:50 rangi nope ive left it in may because i havent done my may statistics blogpost yet 06:45 marcelr should send a patch for that ;) 06:45 marcelr rangi: dashboard is still in may :) 06:45 marcelr srdjan++ for signing off 06:42 rangi that qa plugin thread makes me want to not read koha mail 06:37 cait bbl 06:34 cait and still about 250 bug mails to read... ew. 06:33 marcelr hi cait 06:33 * cait just worked thorugh the qa plugin thread 06:32 cait hi marcelr 06:31 marcelr morning #koha 06:09 * cjh was eating dinner 06:09 cjh cait: cake sounds delightful :) 06:05 drojf :) 06:05 drojf YES! 06:04 cait drojf: cake for breakfast? :) 06:02 drojf cake for me please 05:59 dcook Mmm cake 05:58 cait ok... no cake? 05:54 cait with birthday cake? :) 05:51 * dcook concurs 05:51 * cjh wouldnt mind celebrating them all 05:51 dcook But we each only celebrate for one queen 05:51 cjh dcook: well there were a lot of queens... 05:51 drojf lol 05:50 dcook It was late May in Canada 05:50 dcook It's the queen's birthday in Australia on June 10th 05:50 * dcook loves how the queen has a million birthdays 05:50 * cjh wanders off to eat dinner 05:50 cait oh 05:50 cjh yes, queens birthday :) 05:49 * dcook really expected wahanui to weigh in on that one 05:49 dcook holiday? 05:49 cait so today was a holiday in nz? 05:49 cjh damnit. 05:49 cait ;) 05:49 * cait nods 05:49 dcook I think Chris makes a 3 for not morning :p 05:49 drojf lol 05:49 wahanui i heard by default was off 05:49 drojf by default 05:48 drojf that means we win 05:48 dcook Well, 2 for morning and 2 for not morning 05:48 dcook I think it was 2-2 05:48 dcook What? 05:47 cait cjh: too late sorry, we already had the votes and morning won 05:47 drojf cjh: so late that it is already morning :P 05:46 * cjh is a bit late to the party 05:46 cjh cait: it is very clearly night, haven't you looked outside? :p 05:45 cait drojf: and the parking lot and lower apartments of one of my friends has been flooded a bit over the weekend - was ok when she got home yesterday 05:45 cait drojf: it's not bad, but there has been some on the news 05:45 dcook But...blankets 05:45 dcook Mind you, it might be colder at home... 05:44 cait me too 05:44 dcook I like this idea, drojf 05:41 drojf i'm close to declaring this 'work from bed week'. not sure what my bosses think about that though. 05:35 huginn` drojf: The current temperature in Prenzlauer Berg, Berlin, Germany is 11.8°C (7:12 AM CEST on June 03, 2013). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 69%. Dew Point: 6.0°C. Pressure: 30.12 in 1020 hPa (Steady). 05:35 dcook Nice enough outside, but my fingers are turning into icy poles... 05:35 drojf @wunder berlin, germany 05:35 wizzyrea 38% humidity, puh. 05:35 huginn` dcook: The current temperature in Sydney Airport, New South Wales is 17.0°C (3:00 PM EST on June 03, 2013). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 38%. Dew Point: 6.0°C. Pressure: 30.09 in 1019 hPa (Falling). 05:35 dcook @wunder sydney, australia 05:35 wizzyrea but it's grey and sprinkly. 05:34 wizzyrea oh well temp it's alright 05:34 huginn` wizzyrea: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 14.0°C (5:00 PM NZST on June 03, 2013). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 77%. Dew Point: 10.0°C. Pressure: 29.65 in 1004 hPa (Steady). 05:34 wizzyrea @wunder nzwn 05:34 wizzyrea oy t was cloudy and nastyish here 05:32 drojf cait: is there flood in your area? 05:31 drojf meh. it's grey, as it has been for weeks 05:31 cait after like 72 hours of rain during the weekend... 05:30 drojf haven't opened my curtains yet ^^ 05:30 cait no rain! 05:30 dcook Nice blue skies and a setting sun 05:29 drojf hi dcook ;) 05:29 dcook afternoon, drojf ;) 05:29 dcook mmm popcorn.. 05:28 drojf it's definitely morning. and an early one too ;) 05:28 cait we are having an argument about the time of the day - are you backing me up it's morning? ;) 05:27 cait hi drojf 05:27 drojf good morning #koha 05:24 wizzyrea to be fair, it's dark here :P 05:24 wahanui http://i.imgur.com/p3cHE.gif 05:24 wizzyrea get the popcorn 05:22 dcook Just stating my point of view ;) 05:21 cait do you want to argue? :) 05:20 dcook afternoon, cait :) 05:20 cait a 05:20 cait good morning #koh 04:54 huginn` wizzyrea: Quote #7: "Snow_Fox: a rift opens in space the information is shuffled to dev_hyperspace rift then closes" (added by wizzyrea at 03:28 PM, June 18, 2009) 04:54 wizzyrea @quote random 04:24 huginn` wizzyrea: Quote #169: "<wizzyrea> sometimes the answer is just the answer... even if you don't like it ;)" (added by chris_n at 07:22 PM, December 06, 2011) 04:24 wizzyrea @quote random 04:24 * wizzyrea nods 04:24 huginn` wizzyrea: Quote #247: "<eythian> Only cockroaches and Search.pm will survive the nuclear apocalypse." (added by wizzyrea at 11:54 PM, May 08, 2013) 04:24 wizzyrea @quote random 04:24 huginn` wizzyrea: Quote #200: "chris_n: usually the problem is either too much time and not enough cookies or not enough time and too many cookies" (added by wizzyrea at 03:24 PM, April 12, 2012) 04:24 wizzyrea @quote random 04:24 huginn` wizzyrea: Quote #132: "<oleonard> nengard: It depends what time zone Jesus uses I think" (added by druthb at 02:07 PM, May 20, 2011) 04:24 wizzyrea @quote random 04:24 huginn` wizzyrea: Quote #69: "<schuster> Now if I could only figure out how to control those daemons... or at least the ones in my head..." (added by jwagner at 02:02 PM, March 17, 2010) 04:24 wizzyrea @quote random 04:24 huginn` wizzyrea: Quote #44: "<thd> People make bugs fairly much in the degree to which they contribute to the code" (added by gmcharlt at 08:07 PM, October 30, 2009) 04:23 wizzyrea @quote random 04:23 wizzyrea hehehehehe 04:23 huginn` wizzyrea: Quote #142: "Pianohacker: hrm. What's the plural of ILS again? Rangi: ILSESESESESESES" (added by wizzyrea at 08:54 PM, June 08, 2011) 04:23 wizzyrea @quote random 04:23 wizzyrea that's cute 04:23 wizzyrea before he was libsysguy 04:23 cjh howdy :) 04:23 huginn` wizzyrea: Quote #144: "library_systems_guy: (xslt) looks like html and lisp had an ugly baby." (added by wizzyrea at 08:48 PM, June 30, 2011) 04:23 wizzyrea @quote random 04:22 wizzyrea HEE 04:22 huginn` wizzyrea: Quote #159: "slef: WELCOME TO HOOGERLAND. POPULATION: HEROES" (added by wizzyrea at 05:00 PM, September 23, 2011) 04:22 wizzyrea @quote random 04:22 huginn` wizzyrea: Quote #58: "<jdavidb> I prefer killing bugs, not kitties." (added by gmcharlt at 04:38 PM, February 17, 2010) 04:22 wizzyrea @quote random 04:22 wizzyrea lol 04:22 huginn` wizzyrea: Quote #177: "oleonard: If Buck Rogers used IRC he'd put bip on Twiki and tell Twiki to never sleep." (added by wizzyrea at 04:43 PM, January 10, 2012) 04:22 wizzyrea @quote random 04:22 huginn` wizzyrea: Quote #96: "< owen> If your vendor calls it KOHA you know it's not really Koha." (added by wasabi at 05:56 AM, October 08, 2010) 04:22 wizzyrea @quote random 04:22 huginn` wizzyrea: Quote #55: "<jdavidb> Harrrrumph!" (added by gmcharlt at 12:38 PM, February 11, 2010) 04:22 wizzyrea @quote random 04:21 wizzyrea oh hey :) 04:21 cjh ahhhh 04:21 huginn` wizzyrea: Quote #103: "<cait>: Nobody can find you hiding in Search.pm ;)" (added by wizzyrea at 09:18 PM, November 13, 2010) 04:21 wizzyrea @quote random 04:21 huginn` wizzyrea: Quote #56: "* jdavidb makes sure no kitty carcasses are among the dead bugs." (added by gmcharlt at 01:34 PM, February 11, 2010) 04:21 wizzyrea @quote random 04:21 huginn` wizzyrea: Quote #52: "<wizzyrea> Ahh, it's like putting on your slippers" (added by gmcharlt at 08:50 PM, January 28, 2010) 04:21 wizzyrea @quote random 03:00 wizzyrea ewps 03:00 jcamins And a couple where I had the syntax wrong so the tag has a commit hash as a name. 03:00 wizzyrea koha-notspecialanymore :( :( 03:00 jcamins Though I do have a couple "notspecialanymore" 03:00 jcamins No, actually. 03:00 jcamins wizzyrea: hehe. 02:53 wizzyrea lots of branches with swear words. 02:53 wizzyrea because if my repo was public, that's what you'd see :P 02:53 wizzyrea lots with swear words? 02:46 jcamins Wow. I have some weird tag names. 02:41 jcamins I guess if I've already muddled things, I might as well just push all the tags, too. 02:41 jcamins So much for keeping it neat and tidy... 02:41 jcamins I should pushed several hundred unnecessary branches to my github. 02:40 jcamins Well, drat. 02:39 jcamins I threw salt over my shoulder, so I should be safe. 02:39 jcamins gmcharlt: lol 02:31 gmcharlt jcamins: that's a powerful invocation of Murphy you started, just now ;) 02:27 jcamins Not that I would, but talk about pleasantly painless. :D 02:27 jcamins I could probably run an upgrade at 11am on a Thursday (busiest time for the maximum number of libraries), and no one would notice. 02:24 jcamins packages++ # easiest upgrade ever, seriously. 00:25 gmcharlt :) 00:17 wizzyrea on. 00:17 wizzyrea I could go one. 00:17 wizzyrea or the adipose one... shudder 00:17 wizzyrea Or Donna with the bug on her back. 00:17 wizzyrea or Rose Tyler standing in the middle of the road with a gigantic gun. That was memorable. 00:15 gmcharlt *nod* 00:14 wizzyrea that was memorable. 00:14 wizzyrea it's not like amy pond running about with hash marks all over herself from counting silences 00:13 wizzyrea I don't even remember most of the first half, how sad is that. 00:13 wizzyrea and the one with the pseudo ghost 00:13 wizzyrea the akhaten one was alright 00:12 wizzyrea I thought this last half of this season was really quite weak 00:12 wizzyrea *nod* 00:10 gmcharlt or rather, I'd be perfectly happen if he went back to just writing a couple cool episodes each series 00:09 * gmcharlt can just leave Moffatt 00:08 wizzyrea oh man, idk. I could take or leave moffitt tbh 00:08 wizzyrea i wasn't SO keen on matt smith 00:07 gmcharlt who should be the next showrunner? 00:07 gmcharlt now for a loaded question 00:07 wizzyrea oh true. 00:07 gmcharlt which if they show that, may also answer things like my question about Susan 00:07 wizzyrea to me anyway 00:07 wizzyrea *nod* that would be weird. 00:07 gmcharlt I've been reading some speculation that John Hurt will be playing the regeneration of the Doctor active during the Time War 00:06 wizzyrea we've got half timelords all over the place. 00:06 wizzyrea goooood question. 00:06 gmcharlt (and speaking of relatives, whatever happened to Susan?) 00:06 gmcharlt indeed 00:06 wizzyrea :P 00:05 wizzyrea or, we bring back the doctor's daughter 00:05 wizzyrea oh I LOVE THAT too 00:05 * gmcharlt has the wild idea of ... Catherine Tate 00:05 gmcharlt :) 00:05 wizzyrea your stunned silence either means I'm out of my mind or brilliant. 00:04 wizzyrea but they'll getsomeone less known and hipper. 00:03 * wizzyrea votes for Richard Ayoade