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23:59 Brooke He rÄ whÄnau koa ki a koe
23:59 Brooke kia ora
23:16 rangi mtj: your 2nd key should be added now
23:02 cjh I still have some local notes I have to put on the wiki at some point
23:01 wizzyrea hi eythian :D
23:01 wizzyrea cjh++ for excellent serials documentation
22:58 wahanui que tal, eythian
22:58 eythian hi
22:56 blahdeblah I'll have a look at it
22:56 rangi like i said, ive never used it
22:56 blahdeblah Does it do bulk changes?
22:56 rangi but people seem to like it
22:55 rangi ive never used marcedit
22:55 blahdeblah s/happy/prefer/
22:55 blahdeblah I'm pretty comfortable with perl scripting, but happy to use another tool if it's going to be fast and easy
22:54 rangi there are lots of perl tools for manipulating MARC records or there is marcedit with is free of cost but proprietary
22:54 rangi not a koha tool
22:54 blahdeblah rangi: Is that a Koha tool, or does it come from somewhere else?
22:53 cait good night all!
22:53 cait thx rangi :)
22:53 rangi you could use something like marcedit
22:53 blahdeblah Any tips on how to do that?
22:52 rangi koha wont do that for you
22:52 rangi yes, you would need to copy it
22:52 blahdeblah cait: jcamins seemed to imply that it would be possible to copy it
22:52 rangi nice :)
22:52 cait hm I am confusing
22:52 cait i mean, the data needs to have it, koha is not going to do anything with it on import
22:51 cait blahdeblah: for koha 852 are useless, you need to map your item data for 952
22:51 tcohen oh, leaving, bye cait
22:51 blahdeblah OK, i'm still not understanding what needs to happen in order to mangle 852 to 952 on import. Is there any further info other than http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Holdings_data_fields_%289xx%29 ?
22:51 bag I feel so much less cool now
22:50 cait tcohen++
22:50 tcohen tomorrow i'll continue with 10178 i guess
22:50 tcohen i started with a really simple one (string patch)
22:48 tcohen rangi, i pushed smth :-D
22:48 rangi heh
22:48 DOOD yeah I'm an idiot I just thought of it - I should have been DOOD before bag
22:47 DOOD rangi: best nick ever ^^^^
22:47 tcohen The Dude
22:39 blahdeblah OK, so it seems to use 852 for holdings as mentioned in that wiki page
22:35 jcamins Yes.
22:35 blahdeblah So if we set up some sort of transform it should be possible to copy the holdings data on import?
22:35 blahdeblah OK
22:35 jcamins It is your responsibility to find that data in your existing records and put it in those places.
22:35 jcamins That page describes what data goes where.
22:34 blahdeblah That page you linked to didn't seem to indicate what needed to be done to allow import of holdings. Am i missing something?
22:33 jcamins You could write a script that would create an item for each bibliographic record.
22:32 jcamins Not really, no.
22:32 jcamins That's what the 952 conversion was for.
22:32 blahdeblah Is there a way to bulk-create matching items?
22:32 blahdeblah There should be 1335 items
22:32 blahdeblah Urrgh - that's not good
22:31 jcamins The former are bibliographic records, the latter would be physical items, with call numbers, etc.
22:31 blahdeblah Not sure what the difference between those is
22:31 blahdeblah It imported 1335 records, and 12 items
22:31 blahdeblah Well, that seemed to go OK
22:20 * blahdeblah rubs hands and has a shot at it
22:19 jcamins They can be concatenated.
22:19 blahdeblah Can MARC files just be concatenated, or is there something i need to do to put everything in one file?
22:19 blahdeblah That seemed to work sweetly
22:17 jcamins Oh, of course.
22:17 blahdeblah I'm going to try staging a record and see what happens
22:17 blahdeblah (to my untrained eye)
22:17 blahdeblah I was able to dump one with marcdump and it appeared sane
22:16 blahdeblah It appears that everything's in raw MARC files
22:16 jcamins blahdeblah: looks like you'll be using yaz to extract the data if there's no export option.
22:13 cait who doesn't? :)
22:12 bag I love birthday parties!
22:12 bag YAY happy birthday rangi
22:12 rangi thanks :)
22:11 cait happy birthday rangi!
22:06 rangi thanks khall_away
22:03 blahdeblah Hmmm.. jcamins: looks like in Emilda all biblio is indeed stored in Zebra - the book table is just a reference to the record id, and they access it via a yaz call
22:02 khall_away happy bday rangi!
21:42 rangi thanks talljoy
21:42 rangi http://perlmaven.com/how-to-capture-and-save-warnings-in-perl <-- that too
21:42 talljoy happy birthday rangi
21:41 rangi ^^ useful
21:41 rangi http://blogs.perl.org/users/kirk_kimmel/2013/05/parallel-forking-and-process-management.html
21:38 wizzyrea that looks pretty yum
21:35 jcamins http://www.myrecipes.com/recipe/onion-fontina-beer-batter-bread-10000001141994/ <-- this one?
21:33 rangi thats what i do on my 40th, upgrade continious integration servers... it's all parties all the time!
21:33 jcamins Well, fermented dandelion batter bread.
21:33 jcamins Okay... what goes into my beer batter bread.
21:32 rangi upgrading jenkins now
21:29 NateC :)
21:29 rangi thanks NateC
21:29 NateC HAPPY BIRTHDAY DOOOD
21:29 NateC hey rangi
21:28 jcamins Cool, thanks!
21:28 wizzyrea ya
21:28 jcamins *tagine
21:28 jcamins wizzyrea: that's the tagin recipe?
21:27 wizzyrea jcamins: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U9v2S49sHeQ
21:26 wizzyrea O.o
21:25 jcamins I have all these fermented dandelion things that I want to use up.
21:25 jcamins Beer batter bread, I guess.
21:22 rangi will do
21:22 gmcharlt rangi: gmcharlt (and if you could do a password reset, that would be great)
21:21 rangi thanks
21:20 jcamins rangi: happy birthday!
21:19 rangi whats your username?
21:19 rangi i can give you jenkins admin access tho
21:19 rangi ill automate it again, and yep you can ask biblibre for access that would be fine (it's their box)
21:18 gmcharlt is there something that can be done to automate it? or alternatively, can I have access?
21:18 gmcharlt rangi: thanks
21:18 rangi gmcharlt: should be fixed now
21:17 jcamins What should I bake?
21:17 jcamins Guess I'd better bake something.
21:16 jcamins I have about a pound and a half of flour that doesn't fit in the bucket.
21:11 * blahdeblah heads to breakfast - thanks for the help, jcamins
21:08 blahdeblah It's all LAMP, so hopefully the worst it could be is that i'll have to do a custom mysql query.
21:07 jcamins Hopefully Emilda has some sort of export function.
21:07 jcamins I'd give even odds that you're remembering correctly.
21:07 blahdeblah I'm no expert on this - and it's been a long time since i touched it
21:06 jcamins Certainly it's not the master store for Koha, and I would hope it wasn't for Emilda either.
21:06 jcamins Yikes!
21:06 wahanui Really is off now
21:06 jcamins Really?
21:06 jcamins Right.
21:06 blahdeblah I got the impression from reading about Zebra that it was the master store of MARC data.
21:05 blahdeblah So the MARC data will be in the database somewhere?
21:05 blahdeblah ah
21:04 jcamins Zebra is used only for indexing.
21:04 jcamins Nope.
21:04 blahdeblah jcamins: Since it Emilda already uses Zebra, is there a way i can just point Koha at the data and have it pull it in?
21:04 * magnuse does the sensible thing and calls it a day - have fun #koha!
21:02 blahdeblah I just haven't had a chance to look at it for ages, and because the site isn't Internet-exposed, i haven't been too concerned about security.
21:01 blahdeblah It has been for quite some time
21:00 jcamins I see why you're migrating away... looks like abandonware.
20:59 jcamins magnuse: yeah, I noticed that.
20:59 jcamins Well, based on the screenshot on Sourceforge, it's MARC21.
20:59 magnuse oops someone needs to do a little checkup on their webpage http://www.emilda.org/
20:58 blahdeblah I'll see if i can work that out
20:58 jcamins Converting between MARC21 and UNIMARC is very difficult.
20:58 jcamins The question is what format your data is in in Emilda.
20:58 blahdeblah That's what /etc/koha/koha-sites.conf seems to indicate
20:58 jcamins If the titles appear in field 245, it's MARC21.
20:57 jcamins Probably MARC21, then.
20:57 blahdeblah .au
20:57 blahdeblah It's my personal library - only about 1300 items
20:57 jcamins blahdeblah: where are you located?
20:57 blahdeblah It won't be too large
20:57 jcamins blahdeblah: if your file is too large to upload, there's a stage_file.pl script.
20:56 magnuse oh cool
20:56 jcamins magnuse: not to my knowledge. I've done 200k.
20:56 blahdeblah No idea
20:56 jcamins Are you using MARC21 or UNIMARC?
20:56 magnuse is there still a limit on how many records you can stage/import?
20:56 jcamins Yup.
20:56 blahdeblah So all i really need to work out is the 952/995 deal
20:56 blahdeblah cool - thanks
20:55 jcamins And once it's imported you click "Clean," and Koha cleans up after itself so that the batch isn't taking up space (just the records in their final home).
20:55 jcamins Yup.
20:55 blahdeblah I take it a batch can be discarded as well?
20:55 blahdeblah heh
20:55 jcamins I prefer that because it gives me a preview so I can confirm that my records look basically like I expected.
20:55 blahdeblah So it's sort of like a preview-before-import function?
20:54 blahdeblah OK
20:54 jcamins You just click the import button once to import the batch.
20:54 jcamins No.
20:54 blahdeblah Do you have to click on every record?
20:54 jcamins blahdeblah: staging puts the records in a reservoir, and from there you import them by clicking the import button.
20:54 blahdeblah What is the difference between staging and importing?
20:53 jcamins Good. That's easy. You just have to export the MARC, modify the item information from Emilda into Koha's 952/995 fields, and import it using stage MARC records (my preference) or bulkmarcimport (not my preference).
20:52 blahdeblah I only really care about the bibliographic data
20:52 jcamins blahdeblah: however, that leaves all your patrons, circulation records, etc. still in Koha.
20:51 jcamins gmcharlt: yeah, it has to be done manually.
20:51 jcamins That link outlines what data needs to go where in 952 (or 995 if you're a UNIMARC user) for Koha to understand the item record.
20:51 gmcharlt rangi: as near as I can make out, Jenkins did not seem to update the version stamp in its test DB
20:51 huginn jcamins: unknown tag 952
20:51 wahanui The 952 field is used by Koha to store item data in MARC21 and is described at http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Holdings_data_fields_%289xx%29
20:51 jcamins @marc 952
20:50 jcamins For just importing MARC, the only thing you'll have to worry about is the item records.
20:50 blahdeblah So just because it's MARC doesn't mean it will work?
20:50 jcamins blahdeblah: yeah, that's another issue... you'll have to convert the data into something that Koha can use.
20:49 blahdeblah jcamins: I have an Emilda system (which uses zebra), and i'm trying to work out how to bring in the whole database.
20:49 jcamins bulkmarcimport still exists, though, if you're importing a lot of records and don't want the added overhead.
20:48 jcamins Yes, stage MARC is probably your best bet.
20:48 jcamins Oh, was the question just about the actual importing step?
20:48 blahdeblah jcamins: So http://manual.koha-community.org/3.10/en/catalogtools.html#stagemarc ?
20:46 jcamins blahdeblah: I don't think we have any updated documentation aside from the manual.
20:42 msaby jcamins: thank you
20:42 blahdeblah (BTW, I've already got a working 3.10.05-1 installation.)
20:41 blahdeblah Hi. I'm looking for info on importing records from another system (Emilda). http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Import_MARC_to_Koha says it's obsolete - where should i look for current info?
20:41 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10288 trivial, P5 - low, ---, magnus, Pushed to Master , Tiny typo on "Pending offline circulation actions"
20:41 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10251 minor, P5 - low, ---, nengard, Pushed to Master , typos in help/members/member-flags.tt
20:41 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=2774 normal, P3, ---, oleonard, In Discussion , Path to theme is hard-coded in many places
20:41 jenkins_koha * Magnus Enger: Bug 10288 - Fix a tiny typo on "Pending offline circulation actions"
20:41 jenkins_koha * Nicole C. Engard: Bug 10251: Fix typos in Patron Permissions Help
20:41 jenkins_koha * Owen Leonard: Bug 2774 - Path to theme is hard-coded in many places
20:41 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #1187: STILL UNSTABLE in 1 hr 10 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/1187/
20:35 jcamins I don't believe it was, but there are no consequences for libraries that don't go out of their way to set it up.
20:35 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8519 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Pushed to Master , Make koha-index-daemon run on startup
20:35 msaby hi jcamins. I'm looking at bug 8519 (about zebra). not sure to understand the consequences for librairies. The commit message says the documentation will be updated later. Do you know if it was done?
20:32 bag ahhh sweet :D
20:32 jcamins bag: yep. That's why I dedicated 3.12 to the spouses.
20:31 bag I like Shari's play on the word released :P
20:31 bag jcamins: WOW "When I told Shari I'd released, she said "How long was that? Seven months? You know, you could be most of the way to a child by now, and then your parents would have a grandchild for all the suffering."
20:31 msaby hello #koha
20:18 jcamins I don't have gitdm.
20:17 jcamins Oh, now I know why I haven't been running statistics recently.
20:14 magnuse have fun rangi
20:14 jcamins Bye.
20:14 rangi bb from work
20:14 magnuse lol
20:14 rangi ok now it is actually time for school
20:13 jcamins When I told Shari I'd released, she said "How long was that? Seven months? You know, you could be most of the way to a child by now, and then your parents would have a grandchild for all the suffering."
20:13 jcamins lol
20:13 rangi "most likely to go insane and volunteer for another release"
20:13 jcamins With one fewer "stagger*."
20:12 rangi heh
20:12 rangi like a yearbook
20:12 jcamins And I'd be okay with staggering the names being staggered.
20:12 rangi :-)
20:12 rangi and then ppl could sign their box at kohacon
20:12 jcamins Yeah, but that's okay.
20:12 rangi maybe have to do it landscape
20:12 rangi yeah you could actually fit that i think
20:12 jcamins I'll run stats.
20:11 jcamins Something like that.
20:11 jcamins ... I don't remember.
20:11 rangi 40ish?
20:11 rangi how many authors in 3.12.0 ?
20:11 jcamins And a printed version of the release notes is of vital importance right this moment? ;)
20:11 rangi *nod*
20:11 rangi but would take some time
20:11 jcamins Like, not just "Patch author" but "Chris Cormack," etc., etc.
20:11 rangi that would totally be doable
20:10 rangi good idea
20:10 rangi ohhh
20:10 rangi that slide was my answer to the 'platform' spiel
20:10 jcamins I want an organization chart that shows *everyone* who contributed.
20:10 jcamins Ooh, I know what I want.
20:10 rangi based on a picture cait did
20:09 rangi https://gitorious.org/chrisc_presentations/chrisc_presentations/blobs/raw/master/intro_pres/index.html#api <-- i like too
20:09 rangi or grab from there )
20:09 rangi https://gitorious.org/chrisc_presentations/chrisc_presentations/blobs/raw/master/intro_pres/index.html#release
20:08 jcamins Ooh, thanks!
20:08 rangi you can clone the repo if you want jcamins
20:08 rangi https://gitorious.org/chrisc_presentations/chrisc_presentations
20:08 rangi cya oleonard
20:08 oleonard Bye everyone
20:07 rangi http://blog.bigballofwax.co.nz/2010/11/05/pretty-graph-showing-the-last-weeks-worth-of-merges/ is a fun one too
20:06 rangi yeah tidy that up
20:06 rangi oh right
20:06 jcamins rangi: I was thinking of the one in your presentation showing the relationships.
20:06 rangi http://blog.bigballofwax.co.nz/2011/11/04/nice-visualisation-of-when-work-is-done-on-koha/
20:05 wahanui it has been said that this one is cool as long as someone *wants* acknowledgement
20:05 rangi this one?
20:03 jcamins Possibly a little more than I want to spend on printing.
20:01 magnuse well, a couple thousand pages might be cool too? ;-)
20:01 magnuse [off] /me looks out the window and sees http://www.flickr.com/photos/enger/8758209005/in/photostream/lightbox/
20:01 jcamins I only want to add two pages.
20:00 jcamins lol
20:00 magnuse or print the gource visualaization as a flip-book-movie
19:59 jcamins magnuse: I was thinking of the cluster thing rangi had in his history... do one for the date of the release of 3.12.0
19:59 magnuse how would you do that?
19:58 jcamins Ooh, or maybe a full-page visualization of Koha's development history.
19:56 magnuse ooh, cool idea!
19:56 jcamins Or, I suppose, bring it to KohaCon and get it signed by folks.
19:56 magnuse leave a couple pages for "your own notes" at the end
19:56 jcamins So I'm trying to think of two more pages worth of content to add to the copy I have printed.
19:55 jcamins Much.
19:55 jcamins Yup.
19:55 magnuse ah, 16 would have been better?
19:54 jcamins Well, not printed and bound, that is.
19:54 jcamins magnuse: you can't get a 14p booklet printed.
19:54 magnuse why?
19:53 jcamins Alas, I should have made the illustrated release notes just a little bit longer.
19:50 * rangi goes to take the kids to school
19:47 magnuse hm, i have plenty of space on my "misc" linode, but no time to look at it now
19:46 rangi its pretty cool, needs updating, but worked when i tried it last
19:45 rangi yep that was corsair__
19:45 * magnuse googles and finds http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Install_Koha_via_Chef_and_Vagrant
19:45 rangi gimme a server running debian and i will :)
19:44 rangi heh no more space on my linode
19:44 * magnuse is trying to trick rangi :-)
19:44 magnuse oh yeah? if it's so easy why don't you just do it?
19:43 rangi its super easy to install with vagrant
19:43 magnuse yay!
19:43 rangi goals.koha-community.org
19:43 rangi might be nicer
19:43 rangi https://github.com/berekuk/play-perl
19:43 rangi we could run our own
19:42 rangi :)
19:42 jcamins Right... now I shall figure out what it does.
19:42 jcamins Perfect!
19:42 magnuse that woul dbe neat
19:42 rangi that url does
19:42 rangi jcamins: ^^
19:42 rangi can do
19:41 rangi http://questhub.io/perl/explore/latest/tag/Koha
19:41 magnuse rangi: while you are in there, could you add the number for "in discussion"?
19:41 jcamins I'd love something that enables people to set personal goals and track them...
19:41 rangi speaking of which
19:41 rangi monthly target
19:40 rangi i might add a new bit to the dashboard
19:40 magnuse yay :-)
19:40 rangi 0 queue :)
19:40 rangi if everyone matched that
19:40 rangi awesome jcamins
19:40 bag that would be sweet
19:40 jcamins I aim to sign off on approximately ten patches per month.
19:40 rangi that would be pretty sweet
19:39 rangi for the the whole release cycle
19:39 rangi i want to get it under 100, both queues
19:39 bag true that :D
19:39 rangi ill probably start again after 3.10.6
19:39 bag just let me know
19:39 bag or get pianohacker and khall to help out now :)
19:39 rangi oh true
19:39 bag rangi if you sign off - let me know and I can QAA now :)
19:39 * rangi needs someone to sub in for him
19:38 rangi anythign i sign off i cant qa
19:38 rangi as im QAA for 3.14
19:38 rangi magnuse: the needs signoff has been building up since ive stopped signing off
19:37 magnuse jcamins: you're freeeee!
19:36 magnuse success! \o/ tcohen++
19:35 jcamins Hey, you know what's nice? I no longer have to worry about jenkins!
19:34 nengard hey all - i'm looking for some report help - i need a report for items that haven't circulated - the one I have is getting no results so any ideas?
19:33 huginn rangi: The operation succeeded.
19:33 rangi @later tell bgkriegel I wont be pushing any more things to 3.10.x before the 3.10.6 release so you might want to mark where its at so you can start in a day or 2, ill be doing the release tomorrow or the day after
19:30 rangi already pushing to 3.12.x
19:30 jenkins_koha Starting build #1187 for job Koha_master (previous build: UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #1185 3 hr 4 min ago)
19:30 rangi tcohen++
19:30 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10186 trivial, P5 - low, ---, mathieu.saby, Pushed to Stable , Typo in subscription-add.tt (years vs year)
19:30 jenkins_koha Mathieu Saby: Bug 10186: Fix a typo in subscription-add.tt : 2/years should be 2/year
19:30 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.12.x build #41: SUCCESS in 41 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.12.x/41/
19:27 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 10288 - Fix a tiny typo on "Pending offline circulation actions" <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=3e76b1ac71a9652c06ddac09d81dcef4e5adaddf>
19:08 magnuse we got some work to do...
19:07 magnuse and 138 failed qa
19:07 magnuse and 140 needs signoff
19:07 magnuse wow 103 in discussion? that's crazy
19:07 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 10251: Fix typos in Patron Permissions Help <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=6577645073a8670f67f4be2f544857a89a9cb245>
19:00 jcamins tcohen++
18:56 oleonard And wow we have more in-discussion bugs than I thought. 103.
18:55 gmcharlt fair enough
18:52 oleonard I think of "in discussion" to be "we can't do anything with this bug because no one agrees on the proper solution"
18:52 gmcharlt oleonard: mostly because I tend to consider 'in discussion' to be more of an 'in progress' status, but if you prefer new, feel free to change it
18:51 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=2774 normal, P3, ---, oleonard, In Discussion , Path to theme is hard-coded in many places
18:51 oleonard gmcharlt: why "in discussion" for Bug 2774 instead of putting it back to "New" ?
18:49 jenkins_koha Starting build #41 for job Koha_3.12.x (previous build: SUCCESS)
18:49 jenkins_koha Galen Charlton: DBrev 3.13.00.000 -- onwards to Koha Pi!
18:49 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #1186: UNSTABLE in 1 hr 11 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/1186/
18:16 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 2774 - Path to theme is hard-coded in many places <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=bfe6dc88d208e3622e3637665c62dcabf4e1d892>
18:01 tcohen ok, first push looks like worked
17:58 druthb :P
17:58 huginn druthb: bag was last seen in #koha 2 minutes and 20 seconds ago: <bag> @seen cait
17:58 druthb @seen bag
17:58 * tcohen is in fear
17:56 huginn bag: cait was last seen in #koha 2 hours, 55 minutes, and 8 seconds ago: <cait> maybe drojf
17:56 bag @seen cait
17:38 jenkins_koha Starting build #1186 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS)
17:36 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9508 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , the dateformat variable is not standardized in template files
17:36 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6399 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , tooltip for tags that says 'separate by comma'
17:36 jenkins_koha * Paul Poulain: Bug 9508 follow-up : replacing tabs by spaces
17:36 jenkins_koha * Jonathan Druart: Bug 9508: Standardize the dateformat value from C4::Auth
17:36 jenkins_koha * Owen Leonard: Bug 6399 - tooltip for tags that says 'separate by comma'
17:36 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #1185: SUCCESS in 1 hr 10 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/1185/
17:32 huginn druthb: The current temperature in Briargrove Park, Houston, Texas is 31.9°C (12:29 PM CDT on May 20, 2013). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 53%. Dew Point: 21.0°C. Pressure: 29.87 in 1011 hPa (Falling).
17:32 druthb @wunder 77063
17:31 * magnuse wanders off to devour that pizza
17:31 magnuse w00t!
17:31 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 17.0°C (7:20 PM CEST on May 20, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 55%. Dew Point: 8.0°C. Pressure: 29.92 in 1013 hPa (Steady).
17:31 magnuse @wunder boo
17:31 magnuse gmcharlt++ for 3.13
17:30 druthb http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xn-xTJQbR3g&feature=youtu.be&t=44s
17:27 * druthb takes her anvil, and tosses it around playfully
17:27 * gmcharlt sproings back, like a cartoon character after the anvil is removed
17:26 druthb Anything goes right, you're to blame for that, too.
17:26 druthb Awr!
17:26 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: DBrev 3.13.00.000 -- onwards to Koha Pi! <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=d51d6c5feb8e960f1080b686c298082799061ef8>
17:26 * gmcharlt is now squished flat
17:26 * gmcharlt staggers
17:25 druthb does it matter? You're a very responsible #koha person. Anything goes wrong, you're responsible. :P
17:25 gmcharlt druthb: for what? :)
17:25 * druthb blames gmcharlt.
17:24 jcamins gmcharlt: thanks! No great rush, I just keep on forgetting to ask you.
17:23 gaetan_B bye !
17:22 gmcharlt jcamins: yeah, I'll toss that on my stack
17:22 jcamins gmcharlt: speaking of commit rights -- and then I'm really going -- any chance you could put a sanitized version of the EG working repo gitolite/gitowhatever config somewhere?
17:21 magnuse huh, what'd i do now?
17:18 gmcharlt magnuse: hmm, that reminds me...
17:17 * magnuse thinks tcohen should be happy he is not in the ny area now ;-)
17:16 tcohen .. kidding :-P
17:16 tcohen jcamins, u still have commit rights for 3.12, right? because I need that you
17:15 * jcamins wanders off for a shopping trip.
17:12 magnuse if so: woohoo! :-)
17:12 magnuse btw: was that "Project Koha_master build #1184" the first patches pushed by gmcharlt for 3.13?
17:11 magnuse gmcharlt: i never looked too closely at how 8947 was solved, but that order seems to make sense, yes
17:09 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10292 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, NEW , XSLT files always taken from 'prog' theme for English
17:09 gmcharlt also relevant is bug 10292
17:09 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8947 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, RESOLVED FIXED, Search does not work with CCSR theme and language = nb-NO
17:09 magnuse bug 8947
17:09 * magnuse looks
17:08 pastebot "gmcharlt" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "for magnuse, related to 8947 -- do you like the candidate order?" (44 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/20
17:08 magnuse :-)
17:06 oleonard Well you're safe from me magnuse, I'm not filing any bugs.
17:06 magnuse oleonard: i am actually preparing a frozen pizza as we speak :-)
17:05 * magnuse lols at the mention of "competing ILSes which have good mobile sites"
16:52 jcamins Yes indeed.
16:50 * gmcharlt notes that the XSLT stylesheet selection code has several traps for the unwary
16:36 oleonard Sadly I am no modern Leonardo, despite all the efforts of my art school teachers
16:33 slef oleonard: is this about you? ;-) https://m.facebook.com/groups/6381238597?view=permalink&id=10151475771493598&_rdr Giovedì 23 maggio, in diretta streaming su www.biblionext.it, conosceremo i "Modern Leonardos"
16:26 jenkins_koha Starting build #1185 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS)
16:24 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10178 trivial, P5 - low, ---, bgkriegel, Pushed to Master , Typos in plugins for 006 and 008 in MARC21
16:24 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10191 trivial, P5 - low, ---, mathieu.saby, Pushed to Master , 2 option tags are not closed in unimarc_field_115a.tt and unimarc_field_116.tt
16:24 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10186 trivial, P5 - low, ---, mathieu.saby, Pushed to Master , Typo in subscription-add.tt (years vs year)
16:24 jenkins_koha * Bernardo Gonzalez Kriegel: Bug 10178 - Typos in plugins for 006 and 008 in MARC21
16:24 jenkins_koha * Mathieu Saby: Bug 10191: Close 2 option tags in unimarc_field_115a.tt and unimarc_field_116.tt
16:24 jenkins_koha * Mathieu Saby: Bug 10186: Fix a typo in subscription-add.tt : 2/years should be 2/year
16:24 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #1184: SUCCESS in 1 hr 11 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/1184/
16:16 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 9508 follow-up : replacing tabs by spaces <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=791a1474162b74cd1317078d194a5c9c455c2f30> / Bug 9508: Standardize the dateformat value from C4::Auth <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=537c66403855437d2ce52eeb758fc009c7105633>
16:03 * jcamins dies of laughter
16:03 jcamins oleonard: ummm...
16:03 oleonard Are there any competing ILSes which have good mobile sites?
16:02 oleonard Twitter and Facebook both have full-width buttons on their login, Amazon and Google have a smaller left-aligned button.
15:58 oleonard CCSR rearranged the dropdowns so that they could come after the text input and be side by side. Looks nice in mobile but I'm not sure I like that as well at desktop width.
15:58 jcamins Hmm... that is a bit weird, yeah.
15:57 oleonard Not sure about the search form... Wide submit button too weird?
15:57 jcamins oleonard: nice!
15:57 oleonard Haven't touched the top menu yet.
15:57 oleonard Working on the responsive aspect of the layout now: http://www.screencast.com/t/hPeeMN7WtONm
15:21 tcohen so what i said doesn't apply
15:20 tcohen i guess longblob doesn't have an encoding set
15:19 drojf i was testing a cataloging script and it did not work as it did on my vm. turns out i retrieve broken umlauts from mysql and the matching does not work
15:18 drojf that is how i found out about it
15:18 drojf tcohen: not sure. they are broken now i guess
15:18 drojf oleonard: if it is that big i think it's cool ;)
15:16 oleonard Extinction of all life on Earth?
15:16 tcohen wouldn't it break the MARC/binary records?
15:16 drojf how devastating would it be to convert a koha mysql database from latin1 to utf8?
15:16 drojf omg
15:16 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 6399 - tooltip for tags that says 'separate by comma' <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=14ac6cf11b19c3f1ca64c58bf520e7a9e5cf2f37>
15:13 jenkins_koha Starting build #1184 for job Koha_master (previous build: FIXED)
15:12 tcohen .init .cron.daily, and so on)
15:12 tcohen yes, there are several reserved file names that make it work as one would expect
15:12 drojf *you
15:12 drojf yeah i think it is just copied to the respective folder when oyu do that
15:11 tcohen and looks like just naming it koha-common.default will make it :-D
15:11 tcohen i want to propose a file /etc/default/koha-common for init scripts general configuration
15:10 tcohen i was looking at the koha-common.cron.d file as an example, and couldn't find references to it in the whole codebase
15:09 tcohen jcamins gave me the right answer, I wanted to add a file for packages, and couldn't figure how to make the package building script handle it
15:08 drojf (or something else)
15:08 drojf tcohen: what do you mean by "how" they are installed? how it works in the installation process or where they end up?
15:07 reiveune bye
15:07 tcohen thanks jcamins, figured it out: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/maint-guide/dother.en.html#initd
15:05 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 10178 - Typos in plugins for 006 and 008 in MARC21 <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=10098fbcc55aac04d7986a8ab799f1bf729172e5> / Bug 10191: Close 2 option tags in unimarc_field_115a.tt and unimarc_field_116.tt <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=9b92e35492c74cb2bd7c1d386bc5d3542bbd7123>
15:05 jcamins cron.d is automatically installed.
15:05 jcamins tcohen: I think that's just the way Debian packages work.
15:05 tcohen ^o)
15:04 drojf ah, you need help, not me. that is less confusing :)
15:04 tcohen (i thought koha-common.cron.d would be a good one)
15:03 tcohen i want to add a new file, but couldn't find an example
15:03 tcohen i wanted to know how the cron.* files are installed by the debian scripts
15:03 drojf who? what? hi #koha :)
15:02 tcohen need some help with packages install scripts, drojf?
15:01 wahanui i think maybe drojf is more of a tinfoil hat person, but it sounds like that feature makes whoever runs that cover url caching server get paid by amazon?
15:01 cait maybe drojf
14:56 tcohen need some help with packages install scripts, anyone?
14:55 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 10186: Fix a typo in subscription-add.tt : 2/years should be 2/year <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=cf2f95f0607f5bc20f757a6de7effd93334576fa>
14:55 tcohen heh
14:54 oleonard That response is timeless because magnuse will always be eating pizza
14:53 wahanui i think magnuse is afraid that we added another 10000 bugs while he was eating pizza.
14:53 tcohen magnuse?
14:50 druthb hehehe
14:50 oleonard It should be known also as the Internet Explorer hall of shame.
14:48 oleonard Yeah, checked that the other day when I couldn't remember who supported PNG alpha transparency
14:47 druthb oleonard and others who monkey with browser-centricism…check this out: http://caniuse.com
14:46 tcohen s/anyone/anyone knows/
14:46 tcohen does anyone what script puts koha-common.cron.d at /etc/cron.d/koha-common ?
14:39 druthb Two books. One patron. Good to go.
14:39 Dyrcona hah!
14:39 jcamins Dyrcona: just so long as they only have four books...
14:39 Dyrcona Well, if you used a Jabber server with a smaller memory usage than ejabberd, it might work for a stand alone, very small public library.
14:38 Dyrcona jcamins: That is what I thought, but I've never really verified it for myself.
14:37 jcamins Dyrcona: yes.
14:37 jcamins And by "dubious" I mean "absolutely convinced it's going to be too painful to even get OpenSRF to *start* much less use it."
14:37 Dyrcona Koha in general has a smaller memory foot print than EG, no? <- Legitimate question.
14:36 jcamins I look forward to seeing the attempt, but I am dubious.
14:36 Dyrcona :)
14:36 gmcharlt which of course implies the exciting possiblity of max_children = 2 or something like that :)
14:35 Dyrcona The drones don't typically go much over 150MB each.
14:35 Dyrcona Our ejabberd uses the most RAM on our server, then all of the apaches.
14:34 gmcharlt not sure about ever (realistically) using one for PostgreSQL for anything larger than Concerto, of course
14:33 gmcharlt Dyrcona: indeed -- as long as one never gets to the point where a single drone process intentionally needs more RAM than the Pi can provide, a bunch of them should serve
14:30 Dyrcona EG might work on a whole pile of Pi machines....We've wanted to try running multiple ejabberd servers for the communications, but I'm getting way off topic.
14:29 magnuse druthb: or they have a short memory...
14:28 magnuse so we have 6 months to figure out something fun to do with the raspberry pi + koha 3.14 combo :-)
14:28 druthb oh, totally, Dyrcona. Anyone who takes RM more than once *must* be.
14:28 magnuse druthb: if it works it works :-)
14:28 Dyrcona gmcharlt is mad, don't you know.... :)
14:27 druthb Beastly slow.
14:27 druthb (I succeeded. Sort of. It ran, and would search, even and properly return hits from the four (!) db records I could put in there.
14:27 jcamins druthb: that's a whole lot more than 512MB of RAM.
14:27 druthb If I can try to get Koha breathing on an Asus EeePC 900A, with 2 GB of RAM and a 4 GB SSHD… hey, gmcharlt can doo eeet!
14:26 jcamins gmcharlt: ah, so Postgres will be on a real computer?
14:26 rambutan reports on another pi
14:26 gmcharlt exactly
14:26 rambutan EG on one PI, the indexer on another PI, the db on another pi....outta work
14:26 gmcharlt to be clear, I'm not planning on running the database on it
14:26 gmcharlt jcamins: yes, but what does that have to do with anything? :)
14:26 jcamins I was on #evergreen begging for help finding services to disable with a 1GB VM!
14:25 jcamins Are you nuts?
14:25 jcamins gmcharlt: seriously?
14:25 gmcharlt magnuse: heh - at the moment, it's running OpenSRF and I'm planning on sticking Evergreen on it just to see how well it does
14:25 * jcamins chucks the robe and sceptre at gmcharlt.
14:25 jcamins Oh, right.
14:25 oleonard jcamins: Did you give gmcharlt the robe and sceptre?
14:24 magnuse gmcharlt: does it run koha?
14:23 jcamins Hehe.
14:19 druthb lol
14:19 cait yay!
14:18 * gmcharlt has done the obvious ... and set the hostname of my Raspberry Pi to 'kohapi'
14:18 cait welcome to your release 3.14 :)
14:18 gmcharlt hi cait
14:18 cait hi gmcharlt :)
14:16 gmcharlt jcamins++ # release
14:16 jcamins Nice, eh?
14:16 jcamins Hey, I can start fixing the bugs that _I_ want to fix now.
14:02 MathieuTCZ jcamins, that seems to have fixed my problem... I am not sure how itemsbad got in there, but I managed to delete the table after removing all offending fck's
14:02 jcamins :)
14:01 cait maybe tonight
14:01 cait to turn of email
14:01 cait i will need rangi for that
14:00 jcamins By all means. Please, help yourself. :)
14:00 magnuse yay
14:00 * cait sees batch changes coming
14:00 * cait thinks it's time to tidy up bugzilla a bit? :)
13:57 wilfrid Mathieu, I see you too, but I'm connect with irssi :-)
13:50 oleonard Sounds good to me.
13:49 jcamins oleonard: we should use a <ul> for #moresearches.
13:47 magnuse heh
13:46 jcamins Okay... I have determined that using a responsive framework to match a non-responsive site's styling is probably not such a good idea.
13:39 jcamins So you end up giving your custom elements negative margins because if you change #header-wrapper, the search bar gets screwed up.
13:39 oleonard Yeah I remember that.
13:39 jcamins oleonard: the problem is the margins get weird.
13:38 oleonard Hm, I don't remember that being difficult, but it's been a while.
13:38 jcamins And that seems a pretty normal thing to do.
13:38 jcamins I figured it out, but it wasn't fun.
13:37 jcamins The problem I have encountered is that changing the background above the search bar is not fun.
13:37 oleonard jcamins: At this point in my work members and opacheader are in separate divs but not contained by any common div
13:35 jcamins oleonard: I have something that you should fix in the Bootstrappy OPAC: there should be a div that contains members and the user header but not #opac-main-search.
13:34 jcamins Ohhhh.
13:34 jcamins Unfortunately, changing the height of the OPAC header would appear to be for the exceptionally clever.
13:34 tcohen hehe
13:33 jcamins Sleep is for the weak.
13:32 druthb Didn't think so.
13:31 druthb Did *anyone* really think that jcamins would slow down when he was no longer RM? Anyone? Anyone?
13:31 jcamins Why can't I change the height of my header?
13:31 * jcamins glares at the OPAC.
13:31 wahanui thanks druthb :)
13:31 druthb wahanui: botsnack cookie
13:31 wahanui jcamins is insane.
13:31 druthb wahanui: jcamins?
13:24 jcamins lol
13:13 druthb poor ex-RM…so befuddled, didn't know what version he was on.
13:11 * magnuse imagines the look on jcamins's face when he realizes he accidentally released 3.10 as 3.12 ;-)
13:09 druthb lol
13:08 jcamins I'm on 3.10.
13:07 jcamins Oh, wait.
13:07 jcamins Hm.
13:07 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9863 trivial, P5 - low, ---, peterAtKohaBugzilla, Pushed to Stable , 'import' button in web installer should read 'Import'
13:07 oleonard Bug 9863
13:02 cait there was a patch for htat
13:01 cait jcamins: actually i thoght i fixed that
13:00 jcamins Hey, has anyone commented recently on the fact that the "import" button on the web installer is capitalized wrong?
12:59 cait hi oleonard :)
12:58 cait have we investigated that yet? ;)
12:58 cait medical uses of koha releases?
12:55 oleonard 3.12 lowered my cholesterol!
12:54 jcamins Thanks. :)
12:52 tcohen jcamins++ # 3.12 is awesome
12:51 jcamins tcohen: hehe.
12:51 * tcohen is in fear after this early release jcamins
12:36 oleonard Not me, sorry
12:36 arihant any ideas on how to solve this?
12:35 arihant http://koha.1045719.n5.nabble.com/Sending-eMail-via-Amazon-SES-td5755125.html
12:35 arihant i am getting a header charset error when trying to send emails via Amazon SES
12:34 oleonard arihant: I'm curious: Why?
12:34 arihant ok thank you
12:33 jcamins I don't know how to do that, sorry.
12:33 arihant i am interested in changing the headers of the email
12:33 jcamins And then Koha just uses sendmail to send messages.
12:33 jcamins arihant: Tools -> Notices or something like that.
12:32 arihant I am looking to edit the file that koha uses to generate email...Where can i find this file
12:32 jcamins The fact that table exists means that someone manually made changes to your database, and I have no idea what they might be.
12:31 MathieuTCZ Koha version: 3.10.02.000 OS version ('uname -a'): Linux tcz 2.6.32-45-server #101-Ubuntu SMP Mon Dec 3 15:54:27 UTC 2012 x86_64 GNU/Linux Perl interpreter: /usr/bin/perl Perl version: 5.010001 Perl @INC: /usr/share/koha/lib /etc/perl /usr/local/lib/perl/5.10.1 /usr/local/share/perl/5.10.1 /usr/lib/perl5 /usr/share/perl5 /usr/lib/perl/5.10 /usr/share/perl/5.10 /usr/local/lib/site_perl . MySQL version: mysql Ver 14.14 Distrib 5.1.66, for debi
12:31 MathieuTCZ here is my server info
12:31 jcamins I can't really offer advice because I'm not sure what changes were made to your installation.
12:31 jcamins You can try it.
12:30 jcamins However, that's just speculation.
12:30 MathieuTCZ hmmm... so should I delete (after having made a backup) itemsbad?
12:30 jcamins I would speculate that the problem is the foreign key, and that you need to change it to point to the items table.
12:30 jcamins MathieuTCZ: ^^ there's a list of tables that I have in my installation.
12:29 pastebot "jcamins" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "Tables in a working Koha installation." (170 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/19
12:29 oleonard itemsbad may be there MathieuTCZ, but it's not a table that is used by Koha. What version are you using?
12:29 MathieuTCZ this table records, among other things, accession dates
12:28 MathieuTCZ no, itemsbad is there.
12:28 jcamins MathieuTCZ: there's no such table in regular Koha, so I have no idea.
12:28 MathieuTCZ I have traced the problem, but I am wondering what I need to do to get my biblios into the itemsbad table in the koha database... I can add items to label batches if they appear there, but if a book ( or other resource) is not yet recorded in itemsbad, batch.pm gives an error.
12:27 jcamins I suspect the reason no one's reported the problem on Bugzilla is that at some point someone altered the names of tables in your installation.
12:27 jcamins there's no such table as itemsbad.
12:27 jcamins Wait...
12:27 MathieuTCZ here is the error: [Mon May 20 11:34:18 2013] [error] [client 127.0.0.1] [Mon May 20 11:34:18 2013] label-edit-batch.pl: Database returned the following error on attempted INSERT: Cannot add or update a child row: a foreign key constraint fails (`koha`.`creator_batches`, CONSTRAINT `creator_batches_ibfk_3` FOREIGN KEY (`item_number`) REFERENCES `itemsbad` (`itemnumber`) ON DELETE CASCADE) at /usr/share/koha/lib/C4/Creators/Batch.pm line 72., referer: h
12:26 jcamins I'm out of ideas then, I fear. :(
12:26 jcamins Okay.
12:26 MathieuTCZ logged into Koha as superlibrarian (not kohauser)
12:26 jcamins Are you logged in as the database user?
12:26 MathieuTCZ I can issue the books without a problem though
12:25 MathieuTCZ It would appear that some of my biblios, though captured in the items table are not appear in itemsbad. This is throwing an error with the perl script which looks in that table for the record.
12:24 MathieuTCZ Hello everyone... I am having a problem with the LabelCreator. As far as I can tell my particular problem is not in bugzilla...
12:24 * oleonard hopes jcamins can adjust to civilian life
12:21 oleonard jcamins++
12:21 jcamins Thanks.
12:21 oleonard Congratulations jcamins
12:20 oleonard Hi #koha
11:59 * magnuse needs some fresh air
11:51 paul_p back from lunch
11:51 * magnuse would think so
11:50 jcamins Much easier to configure than PKI, too.
11:50 jcamins Exactly.
11:50 magnuse (if i have understood it correctly)
11:47 magnuse i think persona is pretty neat, though. if koha has your email you can create a persona account and use that to log in to koha, without needing a separate password in koha
11:46 magnuse ah yes
11:46 jcamins PKI?
11:45 magnuse what are the single sign-on options in 3.12? cas, ldap, persona?
11:13 cait ;)
11:11 magnuse oh, i forgot who the qam is - yeah being qaa must be hell ;-)
11:10 cait magnuse: you have no idea *muahaha*
11:09 magnuse and good morning jcamins - hope you had a refreshing night :-)
11:08 magnuse jcamins: true, but i imagine that to be slightly less stressfull than being rmaint. i moght be wrong, though!
11:05 cait creepy wahanui
11:04 jcamins magnuse: he went and volunteered to be QAA for 3.14, though...
11:04 wahanui I watch you sleep.
11:04 jcamins Good night.
11:03 magnuse sleep tight rangi - soon you will be a free man too ;-)
11:01 * rangi heads off to sleep
10:52 msaby bye
10:45 * paul_p head to lunch
10:33 rangi ive emailed the list in the past, they are helpful
10:33 rangi yep
10:32 cait could imagine thy are happy about constructive feedback and maybe some helping hands
10:29 rangi and free software is ethically always better than free of cost proprietary software
10:29 rangi but id much prefer we interact with the pootle devs, its an active free software project
10:28 cait that's a really good idea
10:28 cait yeah :)
10:24 rangi they cant read our minds :)
10:24 rangi log an issue for it, or search to see if there is one already
10:22 msaby that's not fixed in 2.5.0 version. maybe in next?
10:21 cait not sure if that would impact speed tho
10:21 msaby missing feature for me : real advanced search, phrase search, exact search
10:21 cait i see that our admin interface suggests adding lucene or something
10:21 cait i thik we are also not using all possible features
10:21 wahanui i heard bgkriegel was on a signoff spree
10:21 cait bgkriegel
10:21 msaby aboot pootle
10:21 msaby i just send a message to translate list
10:20 magnuse who's the new tm again?
10:18 rangi worth trying at least
10:18 rangi yep
10:18 cait keyboard shortcuts too
10:17 rangi fast
10:17 rangi http://pootle.locamotion.org/
10:16 wahanui the memory is fine
10:16 rangi and the memory
10:16 rangi i like the timeline
10:15 rangi yeah
10:15 cait maybe could make the translators bit happier? :)
10:15 cait it looks really nice from what I see
10:15 rangi http://docs.translatehouse.org/projects/pootle/en/stable-2.5.0/changelog.html
10:14 rangi things like alerts too
10:14 rangi lots of good UI fixes
10:14 rangi yep
10:14 rangi http://docs.translatehouse.org/projects/pootle/en/stable-2.5.0/releases/2.5.0.html
10:14 msaby new features in Pootle 2.5?
10:13 msaby ho ho
10:13 rangi http://docs.translatehouse.org/projects/pootle/en/stable-2.5.0/
10:13 rangi we are running 2.1.6
10:13 rangi pootle 2.5.0 is out
10:12 rangi msaby++
09:57 * magnuse wonders if Amazon SNS could be used for sending text messages from koha
09:54 rangi our live dvd manager
09:51 cait rangi: which guy?
09:48 magnuse hiya rangi
09:44 rangi evening all
09:44 rangi wow that guy is pretty annoying
09:41 tweetbot [off] twitter: @27point7: "@KohaAloha that's me ;-) #KohaILS"
09:40 msaby magnus : not a lot of librarians have access to command line ;-)
09:38 msaby magnus : well, it could be a usefull enh
09:36 magnuse msaby: and you will also see jenkins reporting here when new patches have been pushed and are being tested
09:35 msaby yep, understood!
09:35 mtj what magnuse said :)
09:35 magnuse tweetbot listens to twitter, and reports any tweets with the #kohails tag
09:35 mtj msaby, it picks up tweets with the #KohaILS hashtag
09:34 magnuse no, i *think* you can only do iso2709 in the staff interface
09:34 msaby hé, what's that bot?
09:33 msaby but does not seem to work
09:33 tweetbot [off] twitter: @KohaAloha: "hi to msaby on irc, from the twitterverse #KohaILS"
09:33 msaby I thought i was possible
09:33 msaby i mean in staff interface
09:32 magnuse with the misc/migration_tools/bulkmarcimport.pl script
09:31 magnuse i think yo have to do it on the command line?
09:31 msaby do you know if I can import direclty MARCXML records in Koha?
09:30 magnuse yay!
09:30 msaby héhé
09:30 * msaby is typing
09:30 * msaby
09:27 * magnuse does something else
09:27 * cait does something
09:27 cait if you start something with /me
09:26 msaby for the "waves to...", you type it, or there is a trick?
09:26 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=1234 enhancement, P2, ---, paul.poulain, CLOSED WORKSFORME, Parameter: Bar Code # Prefix for book / patron searching
09:26 mtj bug 1234
09:26 mtj yep, thats it ^^
09:25 magnuse yup
09:25 cait yes
09:25 msaby and bug XXXX to get the link of a bug?
09:25 cait we don#t bite... as long as there are enough cookies
09:25 mtj msaby, its great to finally see you on #koha :D
09:25 msaby brrr 13 °C. I won't open my window ;-)
09:24 msaby yes!
09:24 huginn msaby: The current temperature in Rennes, France is 13.0°C (11:00 AM CEST on May 20, 2013). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 77%. Dew Point: 9.0°C. Pressure: 29.98 in 1015 hPa (Steady).
09:24 msaby @wunder Rennes
09:24 * mtj waves to magnuse and cait
09:18 magnuse msaby: that link tells you who some of the nicks are :-)
09:18 wahanui somebody said irc regulars was at http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/IRC_Regulars
09:18 magnuse irc regulars?
09:17 magnuse w00t!
09:17 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 17.0°C (10:50 AM CEST on May 20, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 55%. Dew Point: 8.0°C. Pressure: 30.01 in 1016 hPa (Steady).
09:17 magnuse @wunder boo
09:16 huginn cait: The current temperature in Marseille, France is 16.0°C (11:00 AM CEST on May 20, 2013). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 55%. Dew Point: 7.0°C. Pressure: 30.06 in 1018 hPa (Steady).
09:16 cait @wunder Marseille
09:16 huginn cait: The current temperature in Konstanz, Germany is 12.0°C (11:00 AM CEST on May 20, 2013). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 51%. Dew Point: 5.0°C. Pressure: 29.93 in 1014 hPa (Rising).
09:16 cait @wunder Konstanz
09:16 cait and there are things like @wunder Konstanz
09:15 cait and then you just start talking :)
09:15 cait imean to connect
09:14 cait hm not really, i htink people use different clients
09:11 msaby is there a howto for IRC somewhere?
09:08 msaby hi cait and magnuse!
09:05 * cait waves to msaby
09:05 magnuse hiya msaby and welcome to #koha :-)
09:00 mtj ...in other release news, koha-win32 is now fixed and works well -> http://lists.koha-community.org/pipermail/koha-win32/2013-April/thread.html
08:51 mtj yes, he has done a great job! :)
08:50 msaby happy the bug for opac display in french could be corrected. I discovered it very late :(
08:49 msaby especially Jared!
08:49 msaby I wanted to thank everybody for the work done on 3.12
08:48 arihant hi
08:48 mtj hi arihant, msaby
08:48 msaby don't know how it works...
08:48 mtj arihant, i dont have any suggestions for that problem :/
08:48 msaby 1st steps in IRC
08:48 msaby hello #koha
08:34 arihant Any suggestions on this one http://koha.1045719.n5.nabble.com/Sending-eMail-via-Amazon-SES-td5755125.html
08:21 Joubu magnuse: :) you're welcome
08:19 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10283 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , Hide "many items" on second tab when using OpacSeparateHoldings
08:19 magnuse Joubu++ for a quick patch for bug 10283
08:13 tweetbot [off] twitter: @libriotech: "@xmacex Can you tell us more about @kungbib looking at #KohaILS? Curious! :-)"
07:55 dcook night #koha
07:49 tweetbot [off] twitter: @BibLibre: "The version 3.12 of Koha has been released today, learn more about it here : http://t.co/Kuj93Vf8kw #Kohails"
07:39 mtj some nice icons -> http://www.wpzoom.com/wpzoom/new-freebie-wpzoom-developer-icon-set-154-free-icons
07:39 mtj hi #koha
07:30 cait hi wilfrid
07:30 wilfrid Hi anybody / selut tout le monde
07:26 wahanui privet, reiveune
07:26 reiveune hello
07:23 christophe_c hello #koha
07:22 cait heute ist ein feiertag :)
07:22 cait gut :)
07:19 gaetan_B hey cait :) wie geht's ?
07:18 cait :)
07:18 cait hi gaetan_B
07:17 gaetan_B hello
07:12 magnuse moahaha ;-)
07:11 huginn cait: The current temperature in Konstanz, Germany is 11.0°C (9:00 AM CEST on May 20, 2013). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 59%. Dew Point: 5.0°C. Pressure: 29.94 in 1014 hPa (Rising).
07:11 cait @wunder Konstanz
07:08 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 16.0°C (8:50 AM CEST on May 20, 2013). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 59%. Dew Point: 8.0°C. Pressure: 30.01 in 1016 hPa (Steady).
07:08 magnuse @wunder boo
07:06 * dcook went for a walk in a t-shirt yesterday even though it is supposed to be autumn/winter...
07:04 cait sunny saturday, half of sunday with lots of rain, then sunny again
07:04 cait the other way around here
07:02 paul_p fortunatly, we had a sunny sunday.
07:02 paul_p we had an awful saturday. so many water/rain ! really astonishing !
07:02 huginn paul_p: The current temperature in Marseille, France is 13.0°C (8:30 AM CEST on May 20, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 72%. Dew Point: 8.0°C. Pressure: 30.04 in 1017 hPa (Steady).
07:01 paul_p @wunder marseille
07:01 huginn paul_p: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 11.1°C (9:00 AM CEST on May 20, 2013). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 74%. Dew Point: 7.0°C. Pressure: 29.95 in 1014 hPa (Steady).
07:01 paul_p @wunder konstanz
07:01 cait hi paul_p
07:01 paul_p magnuse = isn't it today the date for the RFP we spoke of last week ? Do you still want to answer it ?
07:00 paul_p good morning #koha
06:56 dcook howdy cait and magnuse :)
06:56 magnuse g'day dcook
06:55 cait hi dcook :)
06:55 dcook magnuse: Agreed on both counts ;)
06:54 cait i woudl think so :)
06:53 magnuse probably a side effect of him being rm?
06:52 cait jared beat me in sign offs... not sure how he did that!! :P
06:52 cait ;)
06:52 cait tsk
06:52 magnuse shame on me for having more patches than signoffs in 3.12
06:49 * magnuse feels like sending shari something nice
06:49 cait hi magnuse
06:49 magnuse and hiya cait
06:49 cait confetti... :)
06:48 cait jcamins++
06:48 wahanui o/ '`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'
06:48 magnuse more confetti
06:48 wahanui o/ '`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`
06:48 magnuse confetti
06:48 huginn magnuse: I'll give you the answer just as soon as RDA is ready
06:48 magnuse @confetti
06:47 magnuse jcamins++
06:47 magnuse woohoo!
05:50 dcook hehe
05:43 cjh come on 3.14.15 !
03:49 jcamins Blearily.
03:49 wizzyrea slog.
03:48 jcamins Thanks. :)
03:47 dcook Well done, again!
03:47 dcook Night, jcamins
03:47 jcamins Enjoy the slog to 3.14.
03:47 jcamins Good night, #koha.
03:47 * jcamins finishes his tidying frenzy and heads to bed.
02:11 jcamins Yup.
02:11 rangi still cool tho
02:11 rangi ah no, thats the beta :)
02:10 rangi how fast!
02:10 rangi http://vietnamlib.net/tin-tuc/hoat-dong-tttv-the-gioi/cap-nhat-phien-ban-koha-3-12-beta-1-va-ban-co-the-tham-gia
01:44 jcamins Oh well.
01:44 jcamins 436? I thought I updated it.
01:40 tweetbot [off] twitter: @IrmaLibraries: "#KohaILS Koha 3.12.0 released with 21 new features, 160 enhancements and 436 bugfixes. More http://t.co/b7GRpTxzYC … Questions? Comments?"
01:32 tweetbot [off] twitter: @jcamins: "I released Koha 3.12.0 today, 4 days early! Pleased with the result, especially the release notes. http://t.co/wksDNc1Kqj #KohaILS"
01:30 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #1183: FIXED in 1 hr 26 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/1183/
01:30 jenkins_koha Yippie, build fixed!
01:27 BobB_ great job
01:27 jcamins BobB_: thanks.
01:26 BobB_ congratulations jcamins - very nice release notes too.
01:20 jcamins eythian: I tagged 3.12.0, BTW, so you can package at your leisure. :)
01:12 dcook \o/
01:11 jcamins I called her to let her know I'd done the release and was free.
01:10 jcamins Very pleased indeed.
01:10 jcamins Oh yes.
01:10 dcook I'm sure Shari will be happy to get you back as well :D
01:09 dcook Aww, just read the dedication :)
01:09 jcamins dcook: oh yes.
01:08 dcook Someone's happy ;)
01:05 * jcamins capers about merrily.
00:49 jcamins deal.
00:49 jcamins And if not...
00:48 jcamins I use wide margins so it should print just fine.
00:46 jcamins They I decided I didn't care.
00:46 jcamins ibeardslee: I thought about doing an A4 version.
00:45 wizzyrea bad beardslee, bad.
00:45 * ibeardslee goes to sit in the corner and tries to stop being picky.
00:44 ibeardslee .. which is not to detract from a nicely formatted set of release notes.
00:34 ibeardslee .. pity about the paper size though ;)
00:29 wizzyrea ohhh yeahhh
00:28 tweetbot [off] twitter: @nzkoha: "#KohaILS 3.12.0 is released! The new features are one thing, but check how nice the release notes are! http://t.co/HCmJNjnTkH"
00:20 tweetbot [off] twitter: @_cjh: "This just made my day https://t.co/2EDI9P54Xe #KohaILS Open Source ILS Song"
00:19 jenkins_koha Starting build #1183 for job Koha_master (previous build: UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #1181 7 hr 0 min ago)
00:13 rangi it was part of the library tour thingy
00:12 tweetbot [off] twitter: @wizzyrea: "#KohaILS 3.12 released - very exciting tons of new stuff - but you know, we always look to the future, on to Pi!"
00:12 rangi i bet sirsi dont have a song
00:12 wahanui OK, cjh.
00:12 cjh wahanui: librarian song is https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BSHBzd9ftDE
00:11 cjh hahaha that is awesome!
00:11 rangi you called it buddy
00:11 wahanui librarians are crazy
00:11 rangi librarians
00:11 rangi https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BSHBzd9ftDE
00:10 wizzyrea :P
00:10 wizzyrea link or it didn't happen
00:10 wahanui wizzyrea: I forgot srs
00:10 wizzyrea forget srs
00:10 rangi yeah
00:10 wahanui srs are not a good registrar :)
00:10 wizzyrea srs?
00:10 wizzyrea ...
00:10 rangi there is an open source library systems song
00:10 rangi heh
00:09 * cjh isnt very good at singing
00:09 jcamins That'd be an interesting song.
00:09 * wizzyrea will sing at it
00:09 jcamins lol
00:09 rangi sign too
00:09 rangi then we could get ppl to sing it
00:09 jcamins rangi: that'd be perfect!
00:09 rangi and bring it to kohacon
00:09 rangi put it A3 size with the koha logo in it
00:09 rangi i could take a photo
00:09 rangi my library cards wall?
00:07 wizzyrea hm.
00:07 jcamins I would like something frameable signed by as many of the developers who contributed to Koha 3.12 as possible.
00:05 rangi yep
00:05 jcamins Thanks for the offer, though. :P
00:05 jcamins tcohen: yeah, I'm sure.
00:05 jcamins rangi: I know. Still, what an annoying message to get five minutes later.
00:03 jenkins_koha rangi: job koha_master build scheduled now
00:03 rangi !jenkins build koha_master now
00:02 tcohen r u sure jcamins? i can leave it to you a few days :-P
00:02 wizzyrea oo, not bad
00:02 huginn wizzyrea: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 13.0°C (11:00 AM NZST on May 20, 2013). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 94%. Dew Point: 12.0°C. Pressure: 29.74 in 1007 hPa (Steady).
00:02 wizzyrea @wunder nzwn
00:02 rangi ill fix
00:02 rangi its just the db version
00:02 rangi hehe
00:02 huginn dcook: The current temperature in Murray Hill, New York, New York is 14.2°C (8:02 PM EDT on May 19, 2013). Conditions: Rain. Humidity: 97%. Dew Point: 14.0°C. Pressure: 30.21 in 1023 hPa (Rising).
00:02 dcook @wunder new york city
00:01 * wizzyrea institutes duck and cover
00:01 jcamins I HATE YOU, JENKINS!!!!!
00:01 jcamins ... seriously?
00:01 wizzyrea \o/
00:00 jenkins_koha * Jared Camins-Esakov: Increment version for 3.12.0 release
00:00 jenkins_koha * Jared Camins-Esakov: Update release notes for final 3.12.00 release
00:00 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #1182: UNSTABLE in 1 hr 12 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/1182/