Time Nick Message 03:40 jcamins Lovely. A huge error in the French PO file. 03:46 jcamins Why did I push this crap? 07:19 * magnuse waves 07:19 cait hi #koha 07:19 magnuse hiya cait 07:19 cait hi magnuse :) 07:22 rangi evening 07:23 cait hi rangi 07:30 amitgupta_ hi cait 07:36 magnuse hiya rangi eythian amitgupta_ 10:02 magnuse cait++ for qa'ing bug 10281 10:02 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10281 major, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Passed QA , Search domains do not seem to work 10:03 cait let's hope we didn't miss something :) 10:04 cait magnuse: i have a patch that needs sign off for 3.12.1 :) 10:04 cait fixing some translatability issues on the opac detail page 10:04 cait *hint* hehe 10:12 magnuse cait: fingers crossed! 10:12 magnuse cait: which bug? 10:13 magnuse i can't do it now, but maybe/hopefully in time for 3.12.1 10:15 cait yeah, no pressure :) 10:15 cait bug 10249 10:15 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10249 normal, P5 - low, ---, katrin.fischer, Needs Signoff , Untranslatable strings in Javascript on OPAC detail page 10:18 magnuse we'll see 10:21 cait got guests now... cooking in my kitchen 10:43 magnuse yay 10:44 magnuse what do we call the first page you see when you log into the staff client? The page that now has two columns of links with nice icons? 10:45 cait start page? 10:45 magnuse main menu? start page? 10:45 cait home page? 10:45 magnuse yeah, i think maybe start page 10:45 cait i would go for start or home i think and call menu the top menu 10:45 magnuse yeah 10:46 magnuse Bug 10285 10:46 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10285 normal, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Error 500 in staff client displays old start page 11:12 magnuse weird, i have a record where 999d seems to be messed up, and any search that returns it gives a 500 error 11:13 pastebot "magnuse" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "Errors in intranet-error.log" (13 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/14 11:14 pastebot "magnuse" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "relevant parts of the record" (8 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/15 11:14 magnuse i tried to overlay it with a new record from z39.50 but get the same error 11:23 * magnuse needs a break 11:28 cait could it be a merged record? 12:05 magnuse nope, i never tried merging 12:05 magnuse it happenede after i added ~4000 items 12:05 magnuse i'll export with the items and see what that looks like 12:09 magnuse hm, no problems that i can see 12:22 jcamins Is there anyone around who has an installation with the staff client translated? 12:23 magnuse yup 12:24 jcamins Could you please switch to your translated interface and see if the links for blanking out/setting the syspref to "default" for the XSLT sysprefs work? 12:24 magnuse yup 12:24 magnuse i have done that several times, but i'll check 12:24 jcamins Thanks. 12:26 magnuse works as expected (ona package install of rc3) 12:26 jcamins Okay... 12:26 jcamins Hrm. 12:26 magnuse you are having trouble with it? 12:26 jcamins In French. 12:27 magnuse that's weird 12:27 magnuse try installing nb-NO and see how that works? 12:27 jcamins I'll say! 12:27 magnuse it's what i just tested with 12:27 jcamins Yeah, that's a good idea. 12:29 jcamins Works in nb-NO. 12:29 jcamins And de-DE. 12:29 magnuse sounds like a problem with the french .po file then... 12:30 jcamins Yep. 12:30 magnuse koha-translate is rather handy though, isn't it? :-) 12:30 jcamins Sure is. 12:31 magnuse and not having tiny_mce in the language dirs makes it that much faster 12:31 jcamins Well, as it's just French, this falls under the heading of "something that a French speaker should've fixed, and not at all blocker-y." 12:32 magnuse isn't "Batch item modification" supposed to obey the IndependantBranches setting? 12:32 jcamins magnuse: yes. 12:33 magnuse ah, perhaps it's because i'm logged in as a superlibrarian... 12:34 jcamins That would make sense. 12:34 cait sorry only half here - ping me if you need me 12:35 jcamins Oh, don't worry. I will. :P 12:37 jcamins This is not a good sign. I can't connect to git.k-c.org all the sudden. 12:37 * jcamins kills the fetch, tries again. 12:39 magnuse ah, there is a sepcific permission for batch editing and it works rather nicely. w00t! 12:47 cait i can accessit normally 12:47 cait well git.koha-community.org that is 12:48 jcamins Well, I think barring any more unpleasant discoveries, Koha 3.12.0 is getting released when I finish these release notes. 12:48 jcamins cait: yeah, it was just a momentary glitch, while I happened to be doing a fetch. 12:51 magnuse jcamins: yay!! 12:53 cait magnuse: white asparagus - is this a thing in norway? 12:53 cait with roasted potatos with parsley and sauce hollandaise? 12:53 jcamins magnuse: BTW, the chocolate brioche made with "challah" dough is delicious. 12:54 magnuse cait: yeah, not a big thing perhaps, but i have heard of it 12:54 magnuse and it sounds delicious 12:54 magnuse jcamins: noted! 12:54 magnuse ooh, lunchtime is approaching fast, i think 12:54 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Merge branch 'bug_9824' into 3.14-master <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=fe54d7ca248b5f12914bd53f1703bb73c871cbdb> / Bug 9824: Make it possible to apply/cancel switch <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=7acdcb7e2aedf2ff202c009ce053de6dff54e840> / Bug 9824: Followup for removing filter <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=529434cab891a8 12:54 jcamins I'm not sure it quite tastes like challah, but it's delicious. 12:54 jenkins_koha Starting build #38 for job Koha_3.12.x (previous build: SUCCESS) 12:54 cait magnuse: best part - my dad is cooking in my kitchen :) 12:55 * magnuse never had challah, so wouldn't be too worried :-) 12:55 cait and i can sit here and watch 12:55 magnuse cait: woot! 12:55 magnuse hehe 12:56 magnuse half way through the main list of demands in the rfp now, but there is probably some other stuff i need to look at too 13:02 magnus_lunch @wunder boo 13:02 huginn magnus_lunch: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 14.0°C (2:50 PM CEST on May 19, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 67%. Dew Point: 8.0°C. Pressure: 30.06 in 1018 hPa (Falling). 13:15 jcamins Awww. 13:15 * jcamins just got a nice e-mail saying that the writer thought jcamins was a good RM. :) 13:17 magnus_lunch whoever_sent_the_email++ 13:33 jcamins [off] Am I the only one who hears "I am using the fact that I'm the 'official' LiveCD manager as a way to make other people do all the work of creating a livecd"? 13:34 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.12.x build #38: SUCCESS in 39 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.12.x/38/ 13:34 jenkins_koha * Jared Camins-Esakov: Fix incorrect entities in PO files 13:34 jenkins_koha * Jared Camins-Esakov: Bug 9452: C4::Letters not Plack-compatible 13:34 jenkins_koha * Jared Camins-Esakov: Bug 10281: searching for a search domain fails 13:34 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9452 blocker, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Pushed to Master , C4::Letters does not function under Plack 13:34 jenkins_koha * Jared Camins-Esakov: Bug 10230: no need to use SimpleSearch for matching auths 13:34 jenkins_koha * Jared Camins-Esakov: Bug 10230: Don't limit valid matches to bibs 13:34 jenkins_koha * Jared Camins-Esakov: Bug 10230: show correct matching record 13:34 jenkins_koha * Marcel de Rooy: Bug 9824: Followup for removing filter 13:34 jenkins_koha * Katrin Fischer: Bug 9824: Make it possible to apply/cancel switch 13:34 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10281 major, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Pushed to Master , Search domains do not seem to work 13:34 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10230 major, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Pushed to Master , Match points do not work with authorities 13:34 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9824 normal, P5 - low, ---, koha, Pushed to Master , Hide basket with no expected items in basket list by bookseller 13:34 jenkins_koha Starting build #1180 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS) 13:39 jcamins Grrr. 13:39 jcamins Where is magnuse when you need him! 13:40 jcamins I need to know the Norwegian alphabet's order, and I'm somewhat doubtful about what Wikipedia tells me. 13:41 jcamins Norwegian dictionary. That'll do it. 13:42 jcamins Huh. Maybe the additional vowels really do go at the end. 13:47 jcamins magnus_lunch: if you happen to wander by could you please confirm that the Norwegian alphabet is really: A B C D E F G H I J K L M N O P Q R S T U V W X Y Z Æ Ø Å 13:51 * jcamins hopes magnuse wanders by after lunch. 13:55 jcamins Hooray! 13:55 magnuse yup, that alphabet you have there is correct 13:55 jcamins Yay! 13:55 magnuse the special vowels go at the end 13:55 jcamins I found it with the vowels in every possible order pretty much everywhere. 13:55 * magnuse wonders why jcamins is wondering about that 13:55 magnuse oh? 13:57 jcamins Yeah, one site had å before ø, one site had æ, å, and ø interfiled... 13:57 magnuse you can consider the setting for the "alphabet" syspref here as authoritative: http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=blob;f=installer/data/mysql/nb-NO/1-Obligatorisk/system_preferences.sql;h=eeedc86367f0d3ae826a4248147a632f980bdb75;hb=HEAD ;-) 13:57 jcamins And, I needed it for a screenshot of the alphabet syspref. 13:57 magnuse wow, weird 13:57 jcamins Ooh. 13:57 jcamins I hadn't thought of looking for a default. 13:57 jcamins Well, I have it now. :) 13:57 magnuse :-) 14:10 jcamins Yay! A friend of mine produced a gorgeous graph of the 3.12 translations! 14:14 * magnuse is curious 14:15 magnuse anyone know off the tops of their heads how the duplicate control in cataloguing works? does it look at title, isbn, other stuff? 14:17 jcamins ISBN and author/title. 14:17 magnuse cool, thanks 14:23 jcamins Now... why are there still strokes inside this table? 14:23 magnuse jcamins: are you saving the "gorgeous graph" for the release notes, or would you like to test drive it with actual users? :-) 14:23 magnuse because someone stroked it 14:25 magnuse probably someone who lives with a cat, who is used to doing that sort of thing absentmindedly 14:25 jcamins lol 14:26 jcamins magnuse: check your e-mail. :) 14:26 magnuse ooh, thanks! 14:29 magnuse jcamins++ 14:37 jcamins magnuse: do you have a screenshot of NORMARC analytics? 14:38 jcamins I don't have any Norwegian records with analytics, and I prefer consistent language displays. 14:39 magnuse not readily available, no 14:40 jcamins Hmmm... no picture for that then, I think. 14:41 jcamins Unless you have a sample record with a 773 in Norwegian? 14:43 magnuse don't worry about it :-) 14:44 jcamins Okay, I need another enhancement in acquisitions/cataloging/serials. 14:45 jcamins Or even two. 14:46 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #1180: SUCCESS in 1 hr 12 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/1180/ 14:46 jenkins_koha * Jared Camins-Esakov: Fix incorrect entities in PO files 14:46 jenkins_koha * Jared Camins-Esakov: Bug 9452: C4::Letters not Plack-compatible 14:46 jenkins_koha * Jared Camins-Esakov: Bug 10281: searching for a search domain fails 14:46 jenkins_koha * Jared Camins-Esakov: Bug 10230: no need to use SimpleSearch for matching auths 14:46 jenkins_koha * Jared Camins-Esakov: Bug 10230: Don't limit valid matches to bibs 14:46 jenkins_koha * Jared Camins-Esakov: Bug 10230: show correct matching record 14:46 jenkins_koha * Marcel de Rooy: Bug 9824: Followup for removing filter 14:46 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9452 blocker, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Pushed to Master , C4::Letters does not function under Plack 14:46 jenkins_koha * Katrin Fischer: Bug 9824: Make it possible to apply/cancel switch 14:46 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10281 major, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Pushed to Master , Search domains do not seem to work 14:46 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10230 major, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Pushed to Master , Match points do not work with authorities 14:46 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9824 normal, P5 - low, ---, koha, Pushed to Master , Hide basket with no expected items in basket list by bookseller 14:47 jcamins Bug 6945, bug 9162, bug 9145. 14:47 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6945 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, pelletiermaxime, RESOLVED FIXED, Add a link to show a MARC preview in the normal view 14:47 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9162 enhancement, P1 - high, ---, vfernandes, Pushed to Master , Add a system preference to set which notes fields appears on title notes/description separator 14:47 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9145 major, P1 - high, ---, vfernandes, Pushed to Stable , Authorities: standard language for UNIMARC 14:49 jcamins No, not that last one. 14:49 jcamins bug 9154 14:49 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9154 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , On item edit page, highlight row of item being edited 14:51 magnuse success! \o/ 15:14 magnuse um, why did i never thinka bout this before... 15:14 magnuse what happens if koha tries to send e.g. am "advance notice" or an "item due" message to a patron without an email-address? 15:16 magnuse buenas dias tcohen 15:18 tcohen god ettermiddag, magnuse 15:18 magnuse :-) 15:18 tcohen # thanks to googleof course 15:19 jcamins magnuse: it doesn't. 15:19 jcamins They get printed, don't they? 15:19 magnuse where and how? 15:20 jcamins misc/cronjobs/gather_print_notices.pl 15:20 jcamins And then the librarian has to print the generated PDF and stuff the envelopes. 15:20 magnuse correct answer: a small print shop in downtown Tucson 15:20 jcamins lol 15:20 magnuse ah, that does sound vaguely familiar 15:20 * magnuse looks at the cronjob 15:22 magnuse ah cool, you just have to configure a directory where the librarians can find the generated notices (safely...) 15:22 jcamins Right. 15:22 jcamins Or e-mail. 15:22 magnuse yup 15:23 magnuse and it's html, not pdf, by the looks of the script 15:23 tcohen ok, triple match point 15:23 magnuse tennis? 15:23 tcohen nadal won, yes magnuse 15:24 jcamins tcohen: PDF, HTML, something printable, anyway. 15:25 * magnuse redirects output to tcohen to himself temporarily 15:25 jcamins Right. 15:26 magnuse :-) 15:29 tcohen AR>&NRW 15:31 jcamins Okay, bugfixes that merit mention in the release notes? 15:32 jcamins Bug the-one-I-just-pushed. 15:32 jcamins Bug 7241 15:32 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7241 normal, P5 - low, ---, adrien.saurat, Pushed to Stable , circulation action logs record biblionumber instead of item number 15:32 jcamins What others? 15:32 wahanui others are too depressing 15:32 jcamins Bug 9842 15:32 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9842 trivial, P5 - low, ---, adrien.saurat, Failed QA , SIP tests : fix for 07hold.t on Cancel Hold 15:32 jcamins Bug 9824 15:32 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9824 normal, P5 - low, ---, koha, Pushed to Master , Hide basket with no expected items in basket list by bookseller 15:32 jcamins Jeez. All this release note writing is making me dyslexic. :( 15:42 jcamins Would anyone like to sign off on bug 10287? 15:42 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10287 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, In Discussion , Budget administration table displayed with single pixel artifact before and after 15:42 jcamins No? 15:42 wahanui http://media.moddb.com/images/groups/1/3/2933/collapsing.gif 15:42 jcamins Fair enough. 15:43 * jcamins pushes the one-line fix. 15:44 * druthb occasionally wonders about jcamins' sanity. 15:44 jcamins druthb: why? 15:45 jcamins I gave folks a chance to sign off, no one took it, I did my job. 15:45 * druthb chuckles 15:45 jcamins Seems quite sane to me. 15:45 jcamins The pixels were messing up a screenshot. 15:48 jcamins druthb: tcohen: magnuse: any non-package-related bugfixes (not enhancements or new features) that you think should be highlighted in the release notes? 15:49 druthb now I *know* you're nuts--asking me that. I'm so far out of the loop. 15:49 jcamins druthb: right, so anything that you remember is definitely important. :P 15:49 druthb *snrk* 15:49 druthb wahanui: jcamins? 15:49 wahanui i heard jcamins was brilliant 15:49 druthb wahanui: jcamins is also insane. 15:49 wahanui okay, druthb. 15:49 jcamins lol 15:50 druthb wahanui: jcamins is also the best cookie-chef in #koha. 15:50 wahanui okay, druthb. 15:51 druthb wahanui: druthb? 15:51 wahanui Well, she finally snapped, like we all knew she would. 15:51 * druthb nods. 15:56 jcamins I currently have two bugfixes listed. 15:56 jcamins bug 7241 and bug 9824. 15:56 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7241 normal, P5 - low, ---, adrien.saurat, Pushed to Stable , circulation action logs record biblionumber instead of item number 15:57 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9824 normal, P5 - low, ---, koha, Pushed to Master , Hide basket with no expected items in basket list by bookseller 16:00 jcamins I would like at least one more. 16:11 samuel hi everybody :-) 16:14 magnuse that was quick 16:15 jcamins Bug 9894. 16:15 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9894 normal, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Pushed to Master , 'hidden' value is hard to understand in frameworks 16:16 magnuse that's a good one 16:16 magnuse i bet lots of people have been scratching their heads over those weird negative and positive numbers... 16:21 magnuse jcamins: your offline html5 circ thing - will that only work when you have the right page open before loosing connection to the Net, or is there some html5 trickery that makes it possible to get to it after you lost your connection? 16:22 tcohen jcamins: i have that bug in my pipeline 16:22 tcohen delay that until 3.12 was released as it would suit master and not 3.12 16:24 jcamins magnuse: the latter. 16:24 wahanui the latter is more perl critic friendly. 16:25 magnuse jcamins: cool! 16:30 jcamins Okay, bugfixes section is done. 16:31 magnuse yay! 16:31 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Merge branch 'bug_10287' into 3.14-master <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=71cd0f3c2085d37e9b706816888c0523e52cc9e3> / Bug 10287: Remove 1px artifacts from budget admin page <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=764fb175330b99a7dc12061bbcc96706d172567c> 16:34 jcamins Okay, time to write the frontmatter. 16:36 jcamins Guess I'd better figure out what goes in it. 16:39 jenkins_koha Starting build #39 for job Koha_3.12.x (previous build: SUCCESS) 16:40 magnuse jcamins: the complete cv of every developer who contributed, i think? 16:52 jcamins lol 16:52 jcamins Right. 17:00 jcamins Grr. 17:00 jcamins The TOC goes over one page by four lines. 17:00 magnuse moahahaha 17:00 magnuse ;-) 17:01 jcamins Maybe I'll try run-in style. 17:02 jcamins Yeah, that'll work, if I use em-dashes between. 17:02 magnuse oops, dogs say it's time for walkies so i guess it's time for walkies 17:03 magnuse @later tell Viktor: if you want an easy bug to sign off, bug 10288 is for you :-) 17:03 huginn magnuse: The operation succeeded. 17:18 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.12.x build #39: SUCCESS in 39 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.12.x/39/ 17:18 jenkins_koha Jared Camins-Esakov: Bug 10287: Remove 1px artifacts from budget admin page 17:18 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10287 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Budget administration table displayed with single pixel artifact before and after 17:18 jenkins_koha Starting build #1181 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS) 17:22 jcamins 14 p. is more reasonable than 43, I think. 18:30 jcamins I have a problem. I have a white space in the middle of the dedication. 18:31 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #1181: SUCCESS in 1 hr 12 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/1181/ 18:31 jenkins_koha Jared Camins-Esakov: Bug 10287: Remove 1px artifacts from budget admin page 18:31 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10287 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Budget administration table displayed with single pixel artifact before and after 18:33 jcamins Fixed it. I changed the text to use more smaller words. 18:44 samuel hi koha world :-) 18:49 jcamins Hello. 19:01 magnuse jcamins: clever! ;-) 19:04 drojf good evening #koha 19:05 magnuse moin drojf 19:05 magnuse or is it the wrong time of the day for moin?= 19:05 magnuse s/=// 19:06 jcamins Do I have access to debian.koha-community.org/ 19:06 drojf magnuse: depends on the area :D i like to use it all through the day 19:06 jcamins No. 19:07 jcamins gmcharlt does. 19:07 magnuse jcamins: and eythian and maybe mtj? 19:07 jcamins And eythian, of course, but being in NZ he's... 19:08 jcamins oh, it's day in NZ now. 19:08 magnuse http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Website_Administration#debian.koha-community.org 19:08 jcamins Yep. 19:08 jcamins I was just looking at that. 19:08 magnuse ah, ok 19:09 magnuse it's even monday morning in nz, but they might hava holiday, just like here? 19:09 jcamins Oh, right. 19:10 jcamins gmcharlt: ping me please if you happen to pass by the computer? 19:10 gmcharlt jcamins: pong 19:11 jcamins gmcharlt: excellent! Can I get you to make a few changes to the header on debian.koha-community.org? 19:11 gmcharlt sure 19:11 * jcamins writes what he wants it to say. 19:14 pastebot "jcamins" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "gmcharlt: header text to clarify what the user is looking at" (1 line) at http://paste.koha-community.org/16 19:16 drojf i think that is missing a word 19:16 drojf This is an apt repository Koha and its dependencies. 19:16 drojf for? of? 19:16 jcamins for. 19:16 jcamins Right, apt repository *for*. 19:16 jcamins Sorry. 19:16 jcamins I've been writing release notes for... 24 hours. 19:16 drojf ouch :( 19:17 magnuse jcamins++ 19:17 drojf jcamins++ 19:17 jcamins All that to write something 14 pages. 19:17 jcamins I didn't have enough time to write a lot, so instead I spent even more time writing a little. 19:17 drojf oh i know that superpower 19:19 drojf »the book of koha 3.12« 19:26 gmcharlt jcamins: I've updated it, along with a few adjustments of my own 19:26 gmcharlt please take a look 19:26 jcamins Thanks! 19:26 jcamins Looks good. 19:42 jcamins Okay, I have a problem. 19:42 jcamins The descender on the 'p' is getting cut off. 19:44 jcamins Oh, I know what I can do. 19:58 jcamins What should I call the introduction/RM's note that comes at the beginning of the release notes before the table of contents? 19:59 jcamins Wow that's depressing. The release notes are 3000 words. 19:59 jcamins And yet I started working on them weeks ago, and have been working on them since ~3pm yesterday. 19:59 jcamins (with six hours off for sleep) 20:03 * kf_lunch waves 20:04 kf_lunch what did I miss? 20:04 kf_lunch have we released yet? 20:04 jcamins Nope. 20:31 magnuse that is one long lunch, kf_lunch ;-) hope you are counting the hours since *kf* must mean you have been at work all this time 20:37 jcamins Hm. 20:37 jcamins There's no documentation for the OpacItemLocation syspref. 20:41 magnuse :-) 20:44 cait [off] :( why do so many people believe koha 4.x was the newest? that's depressing. http://www.linkedin.com/groupItem?view=&type=member&gid=671467&item=37568117&commentID=0&trk=eml-anet_dig-b_pd-pmr-cn&ut=20u8fW9Zhd9RM1#commentID_0 20:45 jcamins Because they keep on doing press releases. 20:46 drojf we could elect a press release manager 20:47 jcamins [off] What does it say? I'm in a "please log in" loop. 20:49 magnuse [off] http://paste.koha-community.org/17 20:50 magnuse [off] do we need a google groupe? nope, we already have a linkedin group 20:50 jcamins Ta. 20:50 cait [off] somene trying to install 2.2.9 getting told repeatedly to install the newest version 4.12 :( 20:51 drojf [off] ah, so linkedin is that google group i have been hearing about? 20:52 jcamins Wait... 20:52 magnuse [off] i fear so, drojf 20:52 drojf [off] it's even worse than i expected 20:52 jcamins Could someone please tell me whether the syspref is OpacItemLocation or OPACItemsResultsDisplay? 20:55 magnuse jcamins: looks like they both exist? 20:57 jcamins ... 20:57 jcamins Right. 20:57 jcamins Of course. 20:57 jcamins Sill me. 20:57 jcamins *Silly 20:59 jcamins Okay, found three sysprefs that are not documented. 21:00 magnuse yay for finding them 21:04 drojf [off] yay, more live dvd questions 21:04 jcamins [off] At least he's not e-mailing me directly. 21:04 drojf [off] "i installed my live dvd in a vm". what? 21:04 jcamins [off] Oh, support request. 21:04 magnuse [off] /me looks out of the window and sees http://www.flickr.com/photos/enger/8754360107/in/photostream/lightbox/ 21:06 drojf [off] magnuse i'm really jealous 21:06 jcamins Wow. Beautiful! 21:06 wahanui hmmm... Beautiful! is that a "moving to jquery (ui)" thing? 21:07 drojf ugh. screw jquery ui 21:07 jcamins What's wrong with jQueryUI? 21:08 drojf the nonexistent backwards compatibility 21:09 drojf use an example of a while back and be sure it does not work because things change all the time. at least that was my impression 21:09 jcamins Heh. 21:10 rangi morning 21:10 drojf hi rangi 21:10 cait hi rangi 21:12 samuel a question of frenchies: we have some problems with po files which have been uploaded in the git repository.Is it possible to modify strings in the repository? 21:15 magnuse hiya rangi - having the day off in nz, or not? 21:15 rangi nope, whats today? 21:16 jcamins samuel: I pushed a bunch of fixes. 21:16 samuel <magnuse> your photos is very nice. It's the paradise 21:16 jcamins The French PO files were broken. 21:16 magnuse rangi: second day of... something 21:16 jcamins I cannot express how furious I am about that. 21:16 jcamins I seriously considered pulling French entirely. 21:16 magnuse samuel: :-) 21:16 rangi magnuse: ahh nope our next holiday is june 3 i think 21:17 magnuse ooh, what's that? 21:17 wahanui that is, like, a good idea 21:18 magnuse rangi: it's pentecost, according to wikipedia 21:19 magnuse Pentecost Monday is a public holiday in many European countries including Austria, Belgium, Cyprus, Denmark, Portugal Estonia, Finland, France, Germany, Greece, Hungary, Iceland, Luxembourg, the Netherlands, Norway, Romania (since 2008), (most parts of) Switzerland, Ukraine and also in the African nations Senegal, Benin and Togo. 21:19 magnuse In Sweden it was also a public holiday, but Pentecost Monday (Annandag Pingst) was replaced by Swedish National Day on June 6, by a government decision on December 15, 2004. In Italy and Malta, it is no longer a public holiday. It was a public holiday in Ireland until 1973. In the United Kingdom the day is known as Whit Monday, and was a bank holiday until 1967 when it was replaced by the Spring Bank Holiday. 21:19 magnuse so there :-) 21:19 jcamins samuel: try the current PO files 21:20 wizzyrea what happened to the french po files? 21:20 wizzyrea and good morning 21:21 samuel <jared> yes, that's what i will suggest, i don't really know what happened these last days with these files 21:21 magnuse hiya wizzyrea 21:21 jcamins samuel: no, it's fixed. 21:21 jcamins You're talking about the error any time you try to view details or results? 21:21 samuel yes 21:21 jcamins Yep. Fixed. 21:21 jcamins By an RM in a towering rage. 21:22 jcamins :) 21:22 samuel ok, i understand 21:22 magnuse pft, details and results, who needs 'em ;-) 21:22 jcamins Once I have had time to recover from the release, I will be sending an open letter to gmcharlt with lessons I learned. 21:23 jcamins Including "Transifex is no panacea, and seems to make it easier to break things badly." 21:24 jcamins Wow. There are some benefits to Time Warner's DNS being broken. 21:24 jcamins My upload speed is incredible. 21:25 magnuse yay? 21:25 jcamins magnuse: yup. :D 21:25 jcamins [off] http://kohadev.cpbibliography.com/relnotes312.pdf 21:25 jcamins Oh, drat. I forgot something. 21:26 samuel <jcamins> transifex seems to have success for the frenchies but i don't really know these tool 21:27 magnuse jcamins++ 21:27 jcamins samuel: clearly it's not successful, since it broke the PO files and it took a non-francophile with vim to fix it. :/ 21:27 jcamins Added to the second paragraph: "Koha 3.12.0 is released under the GNU General Public License version 3 or later." 21:27 drojf jcamins: why would your upload speed care about the dns? 21:28 jcamins drojf: because I have a cable connection, so the bandwidth is shared. 21:28 drojf ah! LOL 21:28 samuel <jcamins> ok, i understand. 21:28 jcamins When their DNS goes out, I get a lot more of the bandwidth. 21:29 jcamins 1.4MB/s :D 21:29 jcamins *up* 21:29 drojf sure, because you are the only one that is able to use the web :D 21:29 jcamins Yup. 21:29 jcamins I love it. 21:29 drojf use the bandwidth to set up a botnet to ddos the dns 21:30 jcamins lol 21:30 magnuse lol 21:32 jcamins Oh for crying out loud. 21:33 jcamins WHAT PART OF "THE STRING FREEZE ENDS ON SATURDAY" MAKES IT SOUND LIKE THE STRING FREEZE DOESN'T END UNTIL SUNDAY?!? 21:34 drojf what happened? 21:34 jcamins drojf: one of the languages was completed today. 21:35 * wizzyrea sends camomile tea, and valium 21:35 drojf i see 21:35 wizzyrea for *after* the release, of course. 21:35 magnuse hehe 21:36 magnuse jcamins: just get the darn thing out the door and be done with it ;-) 21:36 jcamins wizzyrea: I think I need it during as well. 21:36 jcamins magnuse: I'm updating the version now. 21:37 magnuse w00t! 21:37 jcamins Ummm... DisplayIconsXSLT? 21:39 magnuse sure, if you insist 21:42 drojf did you see that ludicrous XSLT display last night? 21:42 jcamins lol 21:42 jcamins Yes, I did. 21:42 magnuse the eurovision song contest? 21:42 jcamins I fixed it. 21:42 jcamins Oh, you meant Eurovision. 21:42 jcamins I didn't fix that. 21:44 drojf lol that too 21:44 * wizzyrea suspects that magnuse saw "ludicrous ... display" and went directly to eurovision. 21:45 jcamins lol 21:45 jcamins Right... building a release now. 21:46 * magnuse suspects that wizzyrea just hit the hammer on the head 21:46 * magnuse is in a silly mood and should get some sleep 21:48 * jcamins could do with some sleep. 21:58 jcamins Okay, if jenkins passes, I'm uploading 3.12.0 and passing on the baton in an hour. 21:59 jcamins [off] Well, not so much passing the baton as tossing it in gmcharlt's direction and running like hell. 21:59 drojf lol 22:01 jcamins jenkins_koha: it's on the hour. Please notice the new commits in 3.12.x now. 22:01 jenkins_koha jcamins did you mean me? Unknown command 'it's' 22:01 jenkins_koha Use '!jenkins help' to get help! 22:01 magnuse heh 22:02 jcamins jenkins_koha: it is now one minute past the hour! 22:02 jenkins_koha jcamins did you mean me? Unknown command 'it' 22:02 jenkins_koha Use '!jenkins help' to get help! 22:02 jcamins Hmph. You'd think jenkins_koha was an automaton or something. 22:04 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Increment version for 3.12.0 release <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=d28d1ef0fa9872749c12d20e322eda50bca6b0ad> / Update release notes for final 3.12.00 release <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=7233475247afee65969a88ee2360beef5bf81c26> 22:06 * magnuse does the sensible thing and wanders off - have a nice release party #koha! 22:09 jenkins_koha Starting build #40 for job Koha_3.12.x (previous build: SUCCESS) 22:14 * cait hides to not get hit by the baton 22:22 jcamins How many major releases has Koha had? 22:23 rangi hmm quite a lot 22:23 rangi lemme look 22:24 jcamins Thanks. 22:25 rangi 1 1.2 2 2.2 3 3.2 3.4 3.6 3.8 3.10 22:25 rangi atho its only from 3.4 22:25 rangi that we started doing major and minor 22:25 rangi so 1.02 etc was not just bug fixes 22:25 rangi they were pretty much major releases 22:26 jcamins Hmm. 22:26 rangi we only used to increment the major number when we did something big 22:26 rangi like swithc db, add marc storage etc 22:27 rangi oh 1.1 we did too 22:28 jcamins Ooh, so 3.12 is the twelfth major release. 22:28 rangi yep 22:28 jcamins Perfect! 22:44 tweetbot [off] twitter: @KiwiLibrarian: "@megingle @ukulelefi Isn't that fabulous. I'd love to do something snazzy with ours. #KohaILS @ranginui" 22:48 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.12.x build #40: SUCCESS in 39 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.12.x/40/ 22:48 jenkins_koha * Jared Camins-Esakov: Update release notes for final 3.12.00 release 22:48 jenkins_koha * Jared Camins-Esakov: Increment version for 3.12.0 release 22:49 jenkins_koha Starting build #1182 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS) 22:49 jcamins Yay! 22:49 jcamins It's tagging time! 22:52 jcamins rangi: how do I do the tag? 22:52 jcamins I think I've been doing them wrong. 22:53 rangi heres how i do them 22:53 jcamins I've been doing git tag -s v3.12.00 22:53 rangi git tag -f -a v3.10.05 -s -m 'Koha release 3.10.5' 22:53 rangi you dont need the -f 22:53 rangi the -a is good 22:54 jcamins Aren't -a and -s mutually exclusive? 22:55 rangi it seems to do an annotated signed tag 22:55 jcamins Okay, yes. 22:55 jcamins That's what I was doing wrong. 22:55 jcamins I thought they were mutually exclusive, but I guess not. 22:56 rangi not sure, they might and -s is just winning ;) but it doesn't complain 23:03 rangi tag looks good to me 23:03 jcamins Thanks. 23:04 jcamins Could someone please check that you're able to download and extract http://download.koha-community.org/koha-3.12.00.tar.gz 23:05 rangi downloading now 23:05 jcamins Thanks. 23:08 jcamins The release notes are still 1.3MB. 23:10 cait night all 23:10 wahanui goodnight cait. You'll be back. 23:16 jcamins Anyone else having problems access git.koha-community.org? 23:17 wizzyrea it was pretty slow for me earlier 23:17 jcamins wizzyrea: I'm glad you're here. I need Wordpress help. 23:17 wizzyrea shoot 23:17 rangi hmm yeah its not responding very fast at all 23:17 jcamins I uploaded a PDF... never mind. 23:18 jcamins The "Upload/Insert" link is not obvious. 23:18 wizzyrea there should be a tab 23:18 wizzyrea above the edit box 23:18 wizzyrea "add media 23:18 jcamins Yeah. 23:18 jcamins I was looking for an "Attach" option below, because there's a Media tab. 23:20 wizzyrea are you still having trouble? 23:20 wizzyrea or did you figure it out? 23:21 jcamins Nope. 23:21 jcamins :) 23:21 jcamins I got it. 23:21 wizzyrea good ok :) 23:25 jcamins [off] http://koha-community.org/?p=4403&preview=true <-- look good to folks? 23:26 jcamins Other than the lack of links. 23:26 jcamins I'll fix that. 23:26 jcamins Well... try. 23:27 wizzyrea that's the preview - we can't see it until it's posted 23:27 jcamins You can't? 23:27 jcamins Oh. 23:27 jcamins Ummm... 23:27 wizzyrea published 23:27 wizzyrea I mean 23:27 jcamins Well, once I get it working I'll publish it. :) 23:28 * wizzyrea has a login so I can probably look at it 23:30 jcamins Do we include the complete release notes in the e-mail announcement? 23:30 wizzyrea probably include your pdf 23:30 jcamins I meant, inline. 23:30 jcamins I can't remember. 23:30 rangi i do for the text ones 23:30 rangi but id link to the post for the pdf 23:31 rangi it'd be too big for a mailing list 23:31 jcamins Yeah, definitely linking to the PDF. 23:31 jcamins rangi: did the tarball unzip okay for you? 23:32 rangi it sure did 23:32 jcamins Great! 23:32 jcamins Guess it's time to relink koha-latest.tar.gz. 23:32 rangi sweet 23:32 rangi you should send it to mr breeding too 23:33 rangi he has a contact form you can paste it into 23:33 jcamins Will do. 23:33 rangi awesome thanks 23:34 jcamins For the download header... 23:34 jcamins remove the link to 3.6.x? 23:34 rangi sounds like a plan to me 23:34 jcamins Actually, maybe I should leave it with "Final (no longer supported) release of Koha 3.6.x. 23:34 rangi hmm yeah, that'd work 23:35 jcamins And maybe move it to old_releases. 23:35 * wizzyrea just read "paroxysms of horror" in the release notes, snorted 23:35 jcamins lol 23:35 jcamins Thanks. 23:35 jcamins Guess I should've sanitized some of the subjects? 23:35 wizzyrea naw, it gives us personality ;) 23:36 wizzyrea of which we have an abundance 23:38 jcamins Hehe. 23:38 jcamins We certainly do. 23:38 wizzyrea actually we show quite a bit of restraint in our bug descriptions 23:38 jcamins We do, actually. 23:39 wizzyrea and reports 23:39 jcamins Okay, download.koha-community.org is updated. 23:39 jcamins Release is tagged. 23:40 jcamins Announcement posted on website. 23:41 rangi nice 23:41 rgbv hi rangi 23:41 rangi heya, you made it rgbv 23:41 jcamins Once I've sent the e-mail, I'll do the thing to mbreeding. 23:41 jcamins Anything else? 23:41 wahanui Anything else is a guess 23:41 rangi thats about it 23:42 rangi rgbv: you should have got an invite message from me? in irc? 23:42 jcamins I send this to koha-devel and koha@? 23:42 rangi thats what i normally do 23:45 jcamins rangi: could you please moderate the message? 23:45 rangi will do 23:46 jcamins Thanks. 23:46 jcamins Apparently the text-only release notes are a bit large. 23:46 rangi done 23:46 jcamins Thanks! 23:46 jcamins tcohen: 3.12.x is YOURS!!!!! :D :D :D :D :D :D :D 23:46 jcamins :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D 23:46 jcamins :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D 23:46 jcamins confetti 23:46 wahanui o/ '`'`'`'`'`'`'`'` 23:46 jcamins more confetti 23:46 wahanui o/ '`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`' 23:46 jcamins more confetti 23:46 wahanui o/ '`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`' 23:46 jcamins more confetti 23:46 wahanui o/ '`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`' 23:47 jcamins That is to say, I am not displeased. 23:47 rangi hehe 23:47 wizzyrea hehe 23:47 wizzyrea more confetti! 23:47 wahanui o/ '`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`' 23:49 wizzyrea now, go find yourself a drink 23:49 dcook huzzah, jcamins 23:49 drojf yay \o/ 23:49 wizzyrea jcamins++ 23:49 drojf more confetti 23:49 wahanui o/ '`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`' 23:49 dcook jcamins++ 23:49 drojf jcamins++ 23:49 pastebot "jcamins" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "Announcement for librarytechnology?" (5 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/18 23:50 kathryn woowoo!!!!! 23:50 cjh jcamins++ 23:50 cjh congrats #koha 23:50 jcamins Does that sound good? 23:50 rangi i like it 23:50 jcamins Excellent. 23:50 cjh looks good. 23:56 tweetbot [off] twitter: @oleonard: "Hooray! Koha 3.12 released! http://t.co/lS686wLyfP #KohaILS" 23:56 tweetbot [off] twitter: @ranginui: "#KohaILS 3.12 released, yes thats right we sometimes even release early take that dinosaurs http://t.co/Wke25oMud4 congrats to release team" 23:57 rangi hmm im a bit more passive aggressive than owen :) 23:57 jcamins lol 23:57 jcamins Yes, it would seem so. 23:58 rangi hehe 23:58 rangi https://twitter.com/oleonard/status/336269365307637760 23:58 jcamins lol 23:59 dcook hehe 23:59 jcamins And you know what this means, right? 23:59 jcamins I can make fennel salad and eat dinner!