Time Nick Message 23:58 dcook As far as I know, June 24th is only a holiday in Québec. Something I only learned about in recent years. As a child, I noticed the name of the day on the calendar, but nothing is celebrated in the rest of Canada on that day. 23:57 * dcook really wants to be in Québec for his birthday one day... 23:54 trea ty ty 23:53 dcook Or belated birthday as it were 23:53 dcook Happy birthday, btw! 23:52 dcook Nice! 23:52 bag :D 23:52 trea :D 23:52 trea it's the same day as mine 23:52 wahanui well, tomorrow is pizza friday! or the day after today. 23:52 bag or tomorrow? 23:51 trea oh ya. that reminds me. i need to call my nephew and wish him happy bday. his is today. 23:51 bag I guess it's over for him there 23:51 bag today is trea's birthday here 23:51 dcook I never thought of that 23:51 dcook lol 23:51 trea but you get two birthdays, so that's pretty rad. :D 23:50 trea tell me about it 23:50 dcook Living in the future is weird :S 23:50 dcook Or possibly today... 23:50 dcook Yesterday or the day before I think 23:49 trea bah 23:49 dcook Already has :/ 23:49 trea iirc his mission ends soon 23:49 trea i hope someone else makes such great space vids after Chris returns to earth. 23:49 dcook trea: I hadn't bothered because I'm not much for pop FB stuff, but yep. Pretty darned great :D 23:48 trea that's a great one dcook 23:48 bag HA RDA is ready huginn 23:48 dcook [off] For anyone who hasn't seen it on FB...http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KaOC9danxNo 23:48 trea oh huginn, you comedian. 23:48 trea bag++ 23:48 huginn trea: I'll give you the answer just as soon as RDA is ready 23:48 trea @bag++ 23:47 bag ah that's it :D 23:47 trea ah k. looks like my bookmarks are out of date 23:46 wahanui i heard logs was http://irc.koha-community.org/koha/ 23:46 bag logs? 23:46 bag trea I was using them yesterday 22:44 gml thx beforehand 22:43 gml I also verified by looking directly in auth_header table that registers were created. (invoked URL: /cgi-bin/koha/authorities/auth_finder.pl?authtypecode=PERSO_NAME&index=tag_100_subfield_a_633164_506494&value_main= ) 22:43 gml Those were loaded by using bulkmarcimport.pl, then I applied rebuild_zebra.pl and restart zebra and zebraqueue services. 22:43 gml After testing authorities query (auth_finder.pl), there are some entries which cannot be found in web GUI. how can I correct this? 22:43 trea koha irc logs down? 22:18 druthb gml: looks like the other way 'round...mibbit's ip has gotten the banhammer from OFTC. 22:06 gml BTW, mibbit is banning oftc.net and I couldn't access this chatroom in the usual way (for me). 21:59 dan sn 21:53 gml I also verified by looking directly in auth_header table that registers were created. (invoked URL: /cgi-bin/koha/authorities/auth_finder.pl?authtypecode=PERSO_NAME&index=tag_100_subfield_a_633164_506494&value_main= ) 21:53 gml Those were loaded by using bulkmarcimport.pl, then I applied rebuild_zebra.pl and restart zebra and zebraqueue services. 21:53 gml After testing authorities query (auth_finder.pl), there are some entries which cannot be found in web GUI. how can I correct this? 21:53 gml Hi everyone 21:24 jcamins Encoding is right, content-type is wrong. 21:24 jcamins Okay, better. 21:24 gmcharlt and yet the absent speak ;) 21:23 bag heh 21:23 * magnuse is not really here 21:23 magnuse hiya bag 21:23 jcamins And the encoding is still wrong. 21:18 * jcamins redownloads the entire database. 21:17 rangi for CGI.pm ? yep 21:17 jcamins Found it. -charset => 'utf-8' 21:16 jcamins Okay... how do I set the charset? 21:14 maximep the broken image below the banner isn't nice :P 21:14 rangi good links on the side, nice banner at the top 21:13 wizzyrea but that is a lovely looking library 21:13 rangi yeah those are from librarything 21:13 wizzyrea those are some massive book covers 21:13 jcamins Wow, they added a lot of content on the sidebar! 21:12 rangi http://maktaba.ku.ac.ke/ 21:12 rangi my current fave opac 21:11 jcamins rangi: yeah, I'm not sure if I'm going to revert or not. 21:10 rangi oh same one 21:10 rangi whats jenkins problem now 21:10 jcamins I'm getting UTF-8. 21:10 jcamins Hm. 21:09 jcamins Now... how do I get UTF-8 out of JSON? 20:57 jcamins Especially since it'll just be the fallback option in a COALESCE. 20:56 jcamins I really don't want to join biblioitems just for itemtype. 20:55 tweetbot [off] twitter: @ranginui: "time for another intro to #KohaILS session (well in an hour anyway)" 20:52 jcamins Not compared to other things, no. 20:51 drojf ah ok, that is not really long:) 20:51 jcamins Five and a half minutes. 20:50 wahanui 329 20:50 jcamins wahanui: 47 * 7 20:50 jcamins 47*7 20:50 jcamins No, 47 blocks, at ~ 7s/block. 20:50 drojf 47 days? :) 20:47 jcamins It takes a while. 20:47 wahanui 46.9966 20:47 jcamins 234983 / 5000 20:46 * jcamins tests redownloading an entire database on an unreliable wifi connection. 20:43 tcohen thanks jcamins, clearly understood! 20:41 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7710 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle.m.hall, Needs Signoff , multiple holds per title 20:41 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9394 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Needs Signoff , Use reserve_id where possible 20:41 fcapovilla khall: I'm looking at bug 9394. It seems that some templates modifications that are needed for this patch to pass QA are in another bug, bug 7710... 20:40 wahanui magnuse is a Norwegian giant. 20:40 bag heya magnuse 20:38 jcamins (in an ongoing fashion) 20:38 jcamins A map serial is a map that is issued in parts. 20:38 jcamins tcohen: a map series is a set of distinct maps issued to be used together. 20:37 mtompset Hey. One less error. YAY! :) 20:36 tcohen usually maximep 20:35 maximep is mibbit banned on oftc ? 20:35 tcohen jcamins, what's the difference between 'Map series' and 'Map serial'? 20:30 tcohen bye cait 20:28 cait good night all 20:27 jcamins RFPs-- 20:26 magnuse RFPs-- 20:10 jcamins There is, and it has nothing to do with maxoutstanding, which is what I wanted. 20:09 jcamins Okay... is there a syspref called MaxFine? 20:08 tcohen and how would u call it in spanish jcamins? :-P 20:06 cait oh right sorry 20:06 jcamins :) 20:06 jcamins cait: right, a mass is a musical church service. 20:06 oleonard Bye #koha 20:05 cait s 20:05 cait jcamins: yeah like that, but it belongs to the music material 20:05 cait had the plugin xml open and checked which position and material 20:05 jcamins I think like church. 20:05 cait i worked with the german marc21 translation for that 20:05 tcohen like marches? 20:04 cait hm i think it's music 20:04 tcohen could anyone tell me what Masses stand for in 008? 20:02 jcamins Hm. Slight problem with the manifest. 20:01 cait brb 20:01 * cait puts the cookie jar in the middle of #koha 20:00 oleonard If I had a nickel for every time I asked myself that... 19:59 jcamins Why are all my ints quoted in this JSON? 19:54 jcamins Magic numbers are EVIL! 19:53 * tcohen thinks suspensions/restrictions should be first-class citizens (i.e. have its own class and table) 19:52 jcamins If the date is 9999-12-31 that is equivalent to "yes." 19:52 cait give a date 19:52 cait you don't have to 19:52 jcamins Oh, now I see. 19:52 cait yep i just tested it 19:51 cait you don't have to give a date i think 19:51 cait there is 19:51 jcamins How can you be permanently restricted if there's no longer a flag for it? 19:51 tcohen temporarily is for fines in days suspensions 19:51 jcamins cait: good. Now's where I get confused. 19:50 tcohen debarred == permanently restricted == freezed 19:50 cait hm makes sense so far 19:50 jcamins Presumably that latter is the date stored in debarred. 19:50 jcamins Patrons can also be temporarily restricted (i.e. huh?), in which case the message is "Patron is temporarily restricted." 19:49 jcamins Patrons can be restricted (i.e. debarred), in which case the message is "Patron is restricted." 19:49 tcohen yes, it refers to the lines (items) in an order 19:49 jcamins Okay... now I'm confused. 19:46 cait you know order lines as single orders in a basket 19:46 cait but only a guess 19:46 cait tcohen: hm maybe more order line 19:46 jcamins Hmmm. 19:46 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7593 major, P5 - low, ---, mathieu.saby, Pushed to Master , merging bib records loses connection to order line 19:45 jenkins_koha Jonathan Druart: Bug 7593: Fix unit tests 19:45 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #1172: STILL UNSTABLE in 1 hr 12 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/1172/ 19:45 tcohen cait: in acq, lines stands for credit lines? 19:44 cait tcohen: probably not in the new plugins, but I remember translating thatin the past 19:43 maximep were working on adding tests for some stuff 19:43 maximep sry for asking all those questions :p 19:43 jcamins 00-load.t? Hm. 19:43 tcohen OMG, not yet 19:43 maximep but won't the plugins tests fail in that case ? or are the test checking if plugins are enabled 19:43 cait it's somewhere in the specifics for maps too... 19:42 cait tcohen: have you found manned spaceship yet? :) 19:42 rangi and/or make it required .. its not really tho, its only if you want to use the plugin thingy (not the cataloguing plugins) 19:42 tcohen yes cait, i can't belive there's such an specific value for 008 19:42 rangi right should fix t/00-load.t to ignore it i think 19:41 drojf evening 19:41 maximep t/00-load.t 19:41 rangi yeah its for the plugins 19:41 jcamins maximep: it is required only for db_dependent, right? 19:41 cait tcohen: translating? ;) 19:41 jcamins I think I pushed that. How did I miss that name? 19:41 maximep probably not the only one 19:41 jcamins Did I push that? 19:40 maximep Module::Bundled::Files is required to run tests. Should stuff required for tests be required in the koha deps ? 19:40 tcohen "Modified stereographic for Alaska"? C'mon 19:40 rangi it should validate precisely 1 thing :) 19:39 rangi i hope 19:39 rangi 1 19:39 cait as long as it acutally validates something 19:39 jcamins Probably not. 19:39 jcamins Hehe. 19:39 cait i think that's probably not the most weird thing we have 19:39 cait ? 19:38 jcamins We have a JS function called "validate1"?!? 19:37 jcamins Things like, tell me if a patron is blocked. 19:37 rangi :) 19:36 jcamins Now to make it do more useful things than give me patron information. 19:36 rangi that is kinda cool! 19:35 rangi https://duckduckgo.com/?q=site%3Abugs.koha-community.org+ too when it fetches the new robots.txt 19:35 * jcamins realizes something kind of cool: the offline circ worked *even though I'm not on a branch that includes the code*. 19:34 rangi morning 19:34 rangi its only just started crawling, but that should become more useful over time 19:34 tcohen hi rangi 19:34 cait morning rangi 19:34 rangi https://www.google.co.nz/#output=search&sclient=psy-ab&q=site:bugs.koha-community.org+opac&oq=site:bugs.koha-community.org+opac&gs_l=hp.3...1185.12869.0.12954.41.35.3.0.0.2.2057.17757.4-17j12j0j1j0j1.31.0...0.0...1c.1.12.psy-ab.v9zLbji-m7c&pbx=1&bav=on.2,or.r_qf.&bvm=bv.46471029,d.ZG4&fp=fd20c68869dd0a3b&biw=1276&bih=902 19:30 magnuse to find 008 you can search for "008" :-) 19:24 tcohen confirmed duplicate 19:24 oleonard Maybe I should have known that for a while 19:23 oleonard I just recently realized you can do a search like "summary:008" and have it just search the summary field. 19:22 tcohen that was my first search actually 19:22 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8 normal, P2, ---, chris, CLOSED FIXED, TransferLog ErrorLog apache parameters 19:22 oleonard I searched for 008 on Bugzilla and got Bug 8 :) 19:22 tcohen i swear i searched typo on bz 19:21 oleonard Double-check, but I think it is. 19:21 tcohen duplicate maybe 19:21 tcohen heh, no 19:21 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10178 trivial, P5 - low, ---, bgkriegel, Passed QA , Typos in plugins for 006 and 008 in MARC21 19:21 oleonard tcohen: Did you see Bug 10178? 18:49 maximep while indiegogo has goals, prizes for different donations, etc 18:49 maximep rambutan: isn't flattr more like tipping a blog or something you like ? I guess it can be used as a form of donation 18:41 wahanui i guess an hour is over, what does this do: find /sbin/init ? 18:41 jcamins An hour? 18:40 mtompset How long does a build normally take? 18:33 jenkins_koha Starting build #1172 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #1164 8 days 4 hr ago) 18:33 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7593 major, P5 - low, ---, mathieu.saby, Pushed to Master , merging bib records loses connection to order line 18:33 jenkins_koha Jonathan Druart: Bug 7593: Fix unit tests 18:33 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.12.x build #31: SUCCESS in 39 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.12.x/31/ 18:25 rambutan maximep et al: the reprap people were talking about flattr just now. https://flattr.com/ 18:19 mtompset anyone familiar with simplesamlphp? 17:54 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Merge branch 'bug_7593' into 3.14-master <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=1b877167f5231f7eef6c7f82cba9322bdba0dbac> / Bug 7593: Fix unit tests <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=94e00ac835568d82222bd2214df0bf19cbe0f82b> 17:54 jenkins_koha Starting build #31 for job Koha_3.12.x (previous build: SUCCESS) 17:45 maximep and iirc you can set it to have the money even if you dont reach the goal 17:45 maximep and you can get the money faster 17:44 maximep as it's more international 17:44 maximep indiegogo would be way better than kickstarter for open source 17:22 * chris_n suddenly feels guilty 16:57 oleonard Maybe it's the handling-the-money part that's the hard thing 16:57 oleonard I would think if a FOSS project had the critical mass to fund something they would also have the infrastructure to get the word out on their own. 16:53 Dyrcona I have seen a few attempts at doing something like Kickstarter for enhancements and development of FOSS, but most have failed. 16:42 oleonard Except now with Kickstarter people fund in small amounts but don't get to share "ownership" of the product. 16:39 maximep now it seems obvious 16:39 maximep 2010, that's before kickstarted really started 16:10 huginn gmcharlt: Quote #111: "<thd> kf: Many things can be funded with many people and small amounts." (added by druthb at 12:28 PM, December 15, 2010) 16:10 gmcharlt @quote random 16:07 tweetbot [off] twitter: @gsDetermination: "Are you looking for open source library tools? Start with @KohaILS | http://t.co/axwjjq30i7 #openlibraries" 16:03 oleonard "When performing a search for itype "BOOK", items with the itype code of "E-BOOK" appears in the opac search results." 16:02 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7456 normal, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , itypes with similar codes throw off search results 16:02 oleonard No, what I remember is Bug 7456 15:59 * oleonard vaguely remembers what kf is talking about 15:58 kf bye all 15:57 kf wish i could rememeber more clearly 15:57 kf I remember someone had E-book e-journal or something and they had wrong results 15:56 jcamins kf: better a dash than a space, but disallowing dashes might not be a bad idea either. 15:55 kf i am looking for more opinions - so anyone feel free to comment :) 15:55 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10237 normal, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Needs Signoff , Enforce authorized value character limitations 15:55 kf bug 10237 15:55 kf jcamins: any opinion about dashes in authorized values? 15:52 drojf later 15:52 * drojf heads to the meeting 15:52 drojf the drojf that likes to start things 15:52 kf ah that drojf..,. 15:51 drojf kf: a page to tell about privacy things would be nice too. i remember some drojf starting one and never having time to work on it :D 15:51 kf drojf: maybe a new script to do privacy things would not be a bad thing 15:51 drojf ;) 15:51 drojf a look. 15:51 drojf closer look. whatever 15:50 drojf have to take a deeper look later 15:50 drojf kf: that looks like a good place 15:49 kf drojf: maybe you could add it here? http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=blob;f=misc/cronjobs/cleanup_database.pl;h=99310df4d12848309f3a020416cdd8e059408922;hb=a78d26dc63ae35056d5f42f6174101c6150e7faf 15:49 drojf (and yes, i got them both out with violent rage) 15:49 drojf jcamins: i have a meeting for 2 hours starting in 10 minutes. that is why i wanted a snickers :/ 15:49 jcamins Hm. But I bet you don't have rice flour yet, do you? 15:49 jcamins drojf: you should go home and bake. 15:48 jcamins kf: there is when your goal is putting all the books on shelves. 15:48 kf lol 15:48 drojf i had a vending machine steal a snickers and the backup snickers that i only bought to kick the first one out too. i don't like this day 15:48 wahanui thing is I need to find that record 15:48 kf thing? 15:48 kf is ther such a think? 15:48 jcamins Also, there are too many books. 15:47 jcamins I have a problem. These shelves are too short. 15:47 drojf thanks for the cookie :) 15:47 kf lol 15:47 drojf lol 15:47 jcamins In order to crush his dreams. 15:47 drojf ^^ 15:47 drojf yes, to show me how stupid i am 15:47 jcamins Maybe. 15:47 kf would I try to find that out if I really did? 15:46 * kf hands you a cookie 15:46 drojf :( 15:46 kf nah 15:46 kf that's because i hate you ;) 15:46 drojf oh kf was faster 15:45 drojf jcamins: as far as i can see it does not do both 15:45 kf only old issues, but don't we have the connection still in the logs then? 15:45 kf http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=blob;f=C4/Circulation.pm;h=1de40e86658ad8bc4e30c24f098420504f9f1ae2;hb=a78d26dc63ae35056d5f42f6174101c6150e7faf#l2837 15:45 mtompset Is tig more bouncy like tigger? ;) 15:44 maximep tig is also great to do blames 15:44 mtompset drojf: git blame combined with git show is very useful. 15:42 kf it's fun! ;) 15:42 kf and it's not only patrons, it's also staff user data 15:41 kf we have user data in so many tables... and there is deletedborrowers... and other things 15:41 kf we are probably going to use our own sql scripts 15:41 jcamins drojf: I thought it was supposed to do both. 15:40 kf hm? 15:39 drojf ^^ 15:39 drojf kf hates me 15:38 drojf kf: how do you do that in your libraries? 15:38 drojf will be a good starting point though 15:37 drojf i found that but i understand it is not for search history but circulation 15:37 jcamins batch_anonymise.pl 15:36 jcamins It's somewhere... 15:36 drojf i don't find a cronjob related to search history though. 15:35 jcamins drojf: no idea. 15:34 drojf jcamins: but why is it in cronjobs? 15:34 kf ^^ what he said 15:34 jcamins drojf: because all the cool kids were using gmail when it first came out, and there was a query to the list nearly daily about how to set it up. 15:33 gaetan_B bye ! 15:32 drojf *doesn't 15:32 drojf doen't really answer the "why" though 15:32 drojf ah yeah i should learn to use git blame :) 15:31 * oleonard git-blames chris_n 15:30 drojf *an 15:30 drojf why is there a "Installation Guide for Configuring a Koha Server to Use a Gmail Account as its SMTP Server" in the cronjobs folder? (CONFIGURE.gmail) 15:26 jcamins lol 15:26 oleonard Or if you're in the U.S. Senate, "Almost a majority of the top 100" 15:26 drojf i would 15:25 drojf lol 15:24 jcamins "Fifty-two percent of the top 100"... wouldn't you usually say 52 of the top 100? 15:24 drojf i think that would be enough for my colleague who asked about it. we'll see 15:24 jcamins Oh, well, if the patrons can't specify it, the featurea already exists. 15:23 drojf not sure if we would want the patron to specify that at all. personally i would like to have that option 15:22 drojf jcamins: OH yes, i forgot i wanted to have a look at the cron jobs before asking. then i took a break and had a fight with a vending machine and forgot about it :/ 15:21 jcamins What you'd need to add is the ability for the patron to specify the length of time. 15:21 jcamins drojf: no, and that cron job already exists. 15:21 drojf err, clear all entries BUT those of the last x days… doesn't matter for the question i guess 15:19 drojf kf: ping 15:18 drojf (search_history is in sql if that wasn't obvious) 15:16 drojf if i wanted to have an option to regularly clear all but the entries of the last x days from search_history, would there be any other option than a cron job? 15:15 mtompset True enough, but you can always fake the "From" so it would say Jenkins. 15:11 jcamins Automated e-mail sending scripts don't have to have their own e-mail address. 15:10 jcamins Still automated. 15:10 mtompset Okay. It's an automated whine. 15:09 mtompset Oh scratch that... just email address. 15:09 mtompset But it has chris' email address and name? 15:08 kf it's automated and it whines at everyone that could be involved (patches pushed since it started failing) 15:08 kf the answer is yes 15:08 kf mtompset: jenkins is whining at you? 15:06 reiveune bye 15:03 mtompset So is chris' email to all of us automated, or did he just grab everyone's email from patches pushed since failure? 14:58 jcamins Thanks. 14:58 Joubu jcamins: ok, done 14:56 jcamins Joubu: yes please. :) 14:56 Joubu jcamins: Maybe I should change the status to "passed qa" ? 14:55 Joubu mtompset: Yep, I proposed a patch. 14:54 jcamins Yes. 14:54 mtompset Okay. Because that seems to be the source of the unstable build. 14:53 jcamins Mathieu and Jonathan. 14:52 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7593 major, P5 - low, ---, mathieu.saby, Pushed to Master , merging bib records loses connection to order line 14:52 mtompset Who is looking into bug 7593? 14:29 oleonard hush jenkins_koha & huginn, stop waking me up 14:26 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9575 major, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Pushed to Master , Serious Holds Problem with IndependantBranches 14:26 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10233 trivial, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Toolbar background missing from staff client catalogue page 14:26 jenkins_koha * Kyle M Hall: Bug 9575 - Serious Holds Problem with IndependantBranches 14:26 jenkins_koha * Owen Leonard: Bug 10233 - Toolbar background missing from staff client catalogue page 14:26 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #1171: STILL UNSTABLE in 1 hr 9 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/1171/ 14:06 mtompset Kenny and Koha both start with K, but that's about where the similarities end. :P 13:59 tcohen oh, the dates are approaching too fast 13:50 drojf i am mildly surprised that it is going to rain on the one day i did not bring appropriate clothing 13:26 tweetbot [off] twitter: @ByWaterSolution: "ByWater Solutions At CLA (CT) and FLA http://t.co/c64RZpb5nh #KohaILS" 13:25 magnuse easter egg? 13:24 kf :) 13:24 oleonard It has been there all along. 13:23 kf hm customization that slipped in? git blame? :) 13:21 oleonard In one of the SCO templates 13:21 magnuse ? 13:20 oleonard "<!-- begin code Mamata-->" ? 13:17 magnuse oleonard++ 13:17 jenkins_koha Starting build #1171 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #1164 7 days 23 hr ago) 13:16 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9575 major, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Pushed to Master , Serious Holds Problem with IndependantBranches 13:16 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10233 trivial, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Toolbar background missing from staff client catalogue page 13:16 jenkins_koha * Kyle M Hall: Bug 9575 - Serious Holds Problem with IndependantBranches 13:16 jenkins_koha * Owen Leonard: Bug 10233 - Toolbar background missing from staff client catalogue page 13:16 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.12.x build #30: SUCCESS in 37 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.12.x/30/ 13:15 * druthb blinks. 13:11 oleonard "Oh my god, you killed Koha! You bastard!" 13:07 oleonard I'll just change the message to say "Go away." 13:01 oleonard ...not that any particular catalog might actually be identified to the user as Koha. 13:00 oleonard We could point them back to the OPAC home page, or shorten it to "Navigate to another part of Koha." 12:59 * jcamins leaves. 12:59 jcamins I don't know. 12:59 magnuse lol 12:59 oleonard Does the user need to be encouraged to try something else? 12:59 oleonard Should we replace that suggestion with something else, or just take it out? 12:58 jcamins oleonard: a long, long time. 12:58 wahanui ...or enemy action... 12:58 magnuse oleonard: ooh, coincidence? 12:58 jcamins Chinese (China) is so close! 12:58 oleonard Error messages in the OPAC say "Use top menu bar to navigate to another part of Koha." I wonder how long ago that top menu bar went away? 12:58 huginn druthb: Quote #38: "<owen> Holy Bugzilla activity explosion, Batman!" (added by ricardo at 02:00 PM, October 07, 2009) 12:58 druthb @quote random 12:57 oleonard Interesting... According to Wikipedia Catalan, Czech, and Kurdish Sorani all have about the same number of native speakers. 12:56 magnuse yay 12:55 jcamins Okay, I announced that as threatened the string freeze is ending on Saturday. 12:52 jcamins magnuse: hehe. 12:51 magnuse jcamins: the string count is not as bad as the word count - there are a lot of looong strings in the help files that i am skipping 12:51 oleonard Bad Koha. 12:50 jcamins oleonard: only if Koha traps the error, which it almost never does. 12:49 oleonard If I have DebugLevel set to show no debugging information shouldn't a 500 error in the OPAC trigger the 500 error template instead of a white screen with an error? 12:46 wahanui more po files are bug 7934 and bug 7939 12:46 magnuse more po files? 12:46 magnuse more po files are bug 7934 and bug 7939 12:46 magnuse more po files? 12:46 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7939 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, frederic, NEW , Separate po files for different MARC dialects 12:46 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7934 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, frederic, NEW , Separate po file for help pages 12:45 magnuse Bug 7934 and bug 7939 12:44 magnuse drojf: i know ;-) 12:44 magnuse s/ina ahelp/in a help/ 12:44 jcamins Probably wise. 12:44 drojf cheater :P 12:44 drojf heh 12:44 magnuse and i skip everything that is 1. ina ahelp file or 2. only relevant to marc21 and unimarc 12:43 magnuse nope, only bokmål 12:43 drojf magnuse: are you doing nynorsk and bokmål? 12:43 jcamins Poor magnuse... lots of Norwegian still to translate. 12:43 drojf kf: do your libraries use opac search history? 12:42 drojf but it would be nice to keep the option in general 12:42 drojf i don't think we are allowed to store search history for ever 12:42 magnuse Finns are cool: "[Pocket] Library is a new kind of a service for library patrons. It runs on modern iPhone and Android smartphones. The service expands the traditional notion of checking out materials, making it possible for library users to check out books and other items directly from other users anywhere." https://github.com/helsinki-city-library/pocketlibrary 12:41 jcamins At least, not as a patron. 12:41 drojf oh. there should be 12:41 jcamins drojf: I don't think so. 12:41 drojf is there a way to set how long the opac search history is kept? 12:38 jenkins_koha Starting build #30 for job Koha_3.12.x (previous build: SUCCESS) 12:38 jcamins Oh, that reminds me. 12:38 jcamins Thanks. 12:36 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Merge branch 'bug_9575' into 3.14-master <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=a78d26dc63ae35056d5f42f6174101c6150e7faf> / Bug 9575 - Serious Holds Problem with IndependantBranches <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=98b96c88d7ee97aa194cf7d2f1f69f1c5cabbb96> / Merge branch 'bug_10233' into 3.14-master <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=9a8 12:35 kf jcamins: i will try to send my mail tonight... things totalyl crazy here 12:30 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10230 major, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Needs Signoff , Match points do not work with authorities 12:30 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9452 blocker, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Needs Signoff , C4::Letters does not function under Plack 12:30 jcamins Oh, hey... bug 9452 and bug 10230 are definitely going into 3.12.0, so if anyone has time it would be nice if someone other than me looked at them before that happened. 12:28 jcamins Hello. 12:25 kf hi mtompset 12:25 mtompset Greetings, kf jcamins. :) 12:25 mtompset Greetings, #koha. 12:25 jcamins Because it's a good idea to check again. 12:24 kf nah, 4 eyes are better 12:24 kf because you don't trust me? ;) 12:24 jcamins That's why I check. 12:24 jcamins No problem. 12:24 kf sorry for missing the string changes 12:24 kf arg 12:18 jcamins Checkins are fully functional at this point. Checking things out and paying fines is not. 12:16 jcamins I'll probably be renaming the branch at some point. 12:16 jcamins magnuse: http://git.cpbibliography.com/?p=koha.git;a=shortlog;h=refs/heads/bug_html5_oc 12:15 wahanui privet, oleonard 12:15 oleonard Hi 12:15 kf hi oleonard 12:13 kf yeah i know 12:12 jcamins It involves saving patron information to the desktop. 12:11 jcamins kf: you're probably not going to be able to use the offline circ. 12:08 magnuse :-) 12:08 jcamins None of my clients check out enough for checkouts to be "too fast." 12:07 jcamins kf: I'm going to let magnuse work on it because I don't care. :P 12:07 kf not sure how jcamins is going to solve that: :) 12:07 kf with a script 12:06 magnuse jcamins: it might be a good start on the fast-scanning thing, then :-) 12:06 kf magnuse: yeah, but you have to create them server side 12:06 magnuse or did that stop working? 12:06 magnuse kf: isn't there a solution for that, where you create a db of users etc? 12:06 jcamins Yes. 12:06 magnuse will there be anything ajaxy for getting "cached" operations sent to the server? 12:05 magnuse dang :-) 12:05 jcamins magnuse: probably not, no. 12:05 magnuse jcamins: do you think that work might fix the "issue" viktor was talking about, where staff (want to) scan books faster than koha can respond? 12:04 kf offline circ with borrowers etc. 12:04 kf i got asked about that today 12:04 magnuse guess i'm not in the habit of looking at the sponsored field 12:03 magnuse jcamins: very cool! 12:03 jcamins magnuse: I'm working on it. That's why I marked it "sponsored." 11:51 drojf hi kf 11:49 kf hi drojf 11:47 drojf hi #koha 11:34 tweetbot [off] twitter: @paul_poulain: "Italian #KohaILS users meeting in Roma, Italy on May 22th, i'll be here ! ( https://t.co/NI4bh8gXAH )" 11:23 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10240 new feature, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, NEW , Offline circulation using HTML5 and IndexedDB 11:23 * magnuse wonders if jcamins is planning to work on bug 10240, or if he was just jotting down an idea 10:51 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9923 major, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Pushed to Stable , correction of a bug due to bz 7129 10:51 jenkins_koha Christophe Croullebois: Bug 9923 - correction of a bug due to bz 7129 10:51 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.8.x build #315: SUCCESS in 36 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.8.x/315/ 10:15 jenkins_koha Starting build #315 for job Koha_3.8.x (previous build: SUCCESS) 10:14 magnuse success! \o/ 10:14 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7228 major, P5 - low, ---, christophe.croullebois, Pushed to Stable , can't order more than 1 when importing all from staged file 10:14 jenkins_koha Christophe Croullebois: Bug 7228: can't add items in an order with Modify 10:14 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.8.x build #314: SUCCESS in 38 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.8.x/314/ 09:36 jenkins_koha Starting build #314 for job Koha_3.8.x (previous build: SUCCESS) 09:35 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7228 major, P5 - low, ---, christophe.croullebois, Pushed to Stable , can't order more than 1 when importing all from staged file 09:35 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10185 blocker, P5 - low, ---, julian.maurice, Pushed to Stable , updatedatabase.pl remove all reserves 09:35 jenkins_koha * Christophe Croullebois: Bug 7228: can't add items in an order with Modify 09:35 jenkins_koha * Julian Maurice: Bug 10185: Add missing columns in update 3.09.00.025 09:35 jenkins_koha * Julian Maurice: Bug 10185: Fix update 3.09.00.025 09:35 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.10.x build #120: SUCCESS in 41 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.10.x/120/ 09:19 magnuse good rule! :-) 09:18 wizzyrea ;P 09:18 wizzyrea actually if you ever question whether you should put the bug number in... put it in. 09:17 magnuse s/us/is/ 09:17 magnuse but it doesn't look like it us 09:17 * magnuse thaouht that was in the coding guidelines 09:13 wizzyrea :) 09:13 wizzyrea moar of that plox 09:13 wizzyrea that thing we're doing, where we put the bug numbers in the db updates - I like it. 08:54 jenkins_koha Starting build #120 for job Koha_3.10.x (previous build: SUCCESS) 08:12 magnuse that would do it... 08:11 wizzyrea oh it is, I just didn't join my channels >.< silly. 08:11 * wizzyrea wonders why freenode isn't connected... hmm 08:09 magnuse wizzyrea++ 08:02 magnuse [off] ah, way to go! ;-) 07:59 rangi [off] an email to "Dear Help Desk" hten asks about koha installation 07:58 kf [off] got what? 07:58 rangi [off] yep, definitely catalyst and katipo did 07:57 * wizzyrea goes for water 07:57 wizzyrea [off] everyone on the support vendor page got one I think 07:56 wahanui germs is, like, http://i.imgur.com/5UfhT.jpg 07:56 huginn GERMS!!!! 07:56 magnuse [off] wow, yesterday i got an email to my private email from a complete stranger that starts out "Dear Help Desk" and asks a question about koha installation... 07:45 wizzyrea sorry, it's irritating. 07:45 wizzyrea i cannot, for the life of me, make any process I can think of stick 0's in the debarred field. and it's pissing me off. 07:43 rangi ? 07:42 wizzyrea grrrr. Gr! 07:42 tweetbot [off] twitter: @BibLibre: "Fancy trying Koha 3.10 ? You can try our demonstration website right here: http://t.co/VeeJMw7mUz #KohaILS" 07:42 tweetbot [off] twitter: @BibLibre: "Envie d'essayer Koha 3.10 ? Vous pouvez utiliser notre site de démonstration par ici : http://t.co/NO6jcmin1w #KohaILS" 07:36 * magnuse makes a note for future greetings 07:36 magnuse ooh, very clever wizzyrea :-) 07:35 rangi heh 07:35 * wizzyrea just settles on "hi" 07:32 magnuse morning 07:31 rangi evening 07:26 tweetbot [off] twitter: @BibLibre: "Envie d'essayer Koha 3.10 ? Vous pouvez utiliser notre site de démonstration par ici : https://t.co/UzXJXr79wJ #KohaILS" 07:16 wizzyrea i had expiry in my mind. 07:16 wizzyrea no - sorry i meant debarred dates 07:06 wizzyrea i've got a weird problem where imported patrons seem to be coming in with expiry dates of 0000-00-00 - irritatingly I can't replicate it 07:05 gaetan_B hello 07:02 christophe_c hello #koha 07:01 alex_a hello 07:00 magnuse hiya Joubu 06:58 Joubu hello #koha 06:46 cait b 06:46 cait br 06:32 reiveune hello 06:28 cait wizzyrea: i had to log in again after changing my permissoins to make it work 06:28 cait wizzyrea: won't hurt 06:24 wizzyrea i'll test it again anyway 06:23 cait i must have changed something with my permissions when testing i guess 06:23 cait with the patch 06:23 cait hopefully yes 06:23 wizzyrea so all good then? 06:21 wizzyrea ah ok 06:21 cait to pick 06:21 cait always giving you the full pulldown 06:21 cait wizzyrea: no it seems to work alright for that 06:20 * wizzyrea esploded her laptop (fixably) a couple of weeks ago, but the side effect is that I don't have my git aliases atm 06:18 wizzyrea so it's still broken with superlibrarian? 06:18 cait hopefully :) 06:18 cait with no superlibrarian permission and indybranches ON the pull downs showed the correct pickup libraries, but I couldn't change them, which seems right to me 06:18 wizzyrea oh no, I was finishing an email I haven't started 06:17 cait i just passed it you can#t tell me now it doesn't work ;) 06:17 cait hm? 06:16 wizzyrea hm. 06:13 cait i think i figured it out - superlibraian permissoin makes the difference 06:13 wizzyrea sure 06:06 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9575 major, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Failed QA , Serious Holds Problem with IndependantBranches 06:06 cait wizzyrea: could I interest you in taking a look at bug 9575? 06:06 * cait just had breakfast 05:57 dcook When did 4pm happen... 05:57 * dcook looks at the clock 05:57 dcook I think it might be lunch time 05:55 wizzyrea coffeecoffeecoffeecoffeecoffeecoffeecoffeecoffeecoffeecoffee 05:55 * magnuse needs breakfast - fast 05:55 magnuse woohoo - double digits! 05:55 dcook It feels a bit chilly here...I think the air conditioning is on :S 05:55 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 10.0°C (7:20 AM CEST on May 14, 2013). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 66%. Dew Point: 4.0°C. Pressure: 29.56 in 1001 hPa (Steady). 05:55 magnuse @wunder boo 05:54 huginn dcook: The current temperature in Sydney, New South Wales is 18.0°C (3:30 PM EST on May 14, 2013). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 42%. Dew Point: 5.0°C. Pressure: 29.86 in 1011 hPa (Steady). 05:54 dcook @wunder Sydney, Australia 05:54 cait we got lots of rain the last few days 05:53 cait bit cool here 05:49 wizzyrea hm actually that's pretty nice 05:49 huginn wizzyrea: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 15.0°C (5:00 PM NZST on May 14, 2013). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 88%. Dew Point: 13.0°C. Pressure: 30.01 in 1016 hPa (Steady). 05:49 wizzyrea @wunder nzwn 05:47 huginn cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 10.0°C (7:45 AM CEST on May 14, 2013). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 89%. Dew Point: 8.0°C. Pressure: 29.98 in 1015 hPa (Steady). 05:47 cait @wunder Konstanz 04:52 * cait waves back 04:46 * wizzyrea waves 04:45 eythian yeah, it's quite neat. Need to find the development work I started on it earlier in the year and polish it up some. 04:43 cait nice new toy 04:43 cait hi eythian 04:42 eythian hi cait 04:41 cait hi dcook 04:41 * dcook waves to cait 03:52 mtj i'm trying to talk dennie into sticking about :D 03:52 mtj ah, ok 03:51 eythian I probably won't be. 03:50 mtj anyone planning on hanging about for the wgtn-perlmongers this arvo? 02:53 mtompset Have a great day (24 hour period), everyone. 02:53 jcamins Sign offs from this side of the planet are good too, of course, but it's 11pm so I figure everyone from this side of the planet is somewhere not on #koha. 02:50 jcamins If anyone on the other side of the planet gets a chance, that'd be appreciated. 02:50 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10230 major, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Needs Signoff , Match points do not work with authorities 02:50 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9452 blocker, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Needs Signoff , C4::Letters does not function under Plack 02:50 jcamins Oh, hey... bug 9452 and bug 10230 are definitely going into 3.12.0, so it would be nice if someone other than me looked at them before that happened. 02:25 eythian I'm not in the work IRC channel. Hah! 02:23 ibeardslee although I do notice that it was pasted in the our work IRC a couple of minutes before it ended up in here 02:21 eythian it's mostly a sign that the rest of you need to pick up your game :) 02:07 cjh :o :o :o 02:03 dcook eythian: you always find all the best stuff 01:58 eythian https://www.google.co.nz/search?hl=en&site=imghp&tbm=isch&source=hp&q=atari+breakout 01:50 jcamins bgkriegel++ 01:08 jcamins I haven't decided which option I'll use, but it's much more straightforward to only have one. 01:07 jcamins I don't think I need to provide the option. 01:07 jcamins Whichever is proper. 01:07 jcamins Is used. 01:07 jcamins UseTablesortForCirc sets whether or not Datatables are used for the checkout tables. 01:06 jcamins Hmmm. 01:04 rangi now thats a plugin i could get behind 01:04 rangi *nod* 01:03 jcamins fredericd has a script for generating sitemaps. 01:03 rangi using Search::Sitemap 01:03 rangi we should be able to generate sitemaps for koha easily too actually 01:00 jcamins circulation.tt, not the sitemap. 01:00 rangi yup 00:59 jcamins There is an absurd amount of cruft in that file. 00:59 rangi and added a sitemap 00:59 rangi yep 00:59 * jcamins glumly contemplates circulation.tt. 00:57 jcamins Just the robots.txt? 00:57 jcamins What did you change? 00:57 rangi will take a few days for google to notice 00:56 mtj rangi++ looks good :D 00:28 wahanui hmmm... progress is good 00:28 mtompset Hmmm... progress. 00:18 rangi right google (and other indexing engines) should be able to index bugs.koha-community.org now .. ill see how that goes 00:16 wahanui interesting is sometimes good and sometimes bad 00:16 dcook Hmm, interesting. 00:16 dcook If the host item showed some details and the status of the linked items...that would be useful 00:15 * dcook ponders this 00:15 dcook EasyAnalytics seems like it could be more useful for patrons 00:14 dcook hehe 00:14 jcamins Which is why I like it better, now that it exists. :P 00:14 jcamins It is. 00:14 dcook The "Enhanced workflow" seems very librarian-y 00:14 jcamins Very different use cases. 00:14 jcamins Right. 00:14 dcook And that's where EasyAnalytics comes in 00:13 dcook haha 00:13 jcamins Hard to say. 00:13 jcamins I may have made that term up on the spot. 00:13 jcamins Bound-withs that have a volume record. 00:13 dcook synthetic collections? 00:12 dcook Although it relies on the 001 which can be problematic :/ 00:12 jcamins And therefore also doesn't make a whole lot of sense for synthetic collections. 00:12 dcook Cool 00:12 jcamins It is an enhanced workflow for bibliographic analysis. 00:12 jcamins Exactly. 00:12 jcamins Now, the code for EasyAnalytics is still disappointing, even with the amount of rewriting I did, but the feature itself does have its place. 00:12 dcook "Enhanced workflow" seems yeah...like regular old cataloguing but saves you the step of filling out the 773 on the child record (or whatever it's supposed to be called) 00:11 dcook Mmm, makes sense. 00:11 jcamins "Enhanced workflow." 00:11 jcamins Or whatever they called it. 00:11 jcamins dcook: enhanced analytics has no connection to items. 00:10 jcamins eythian: lol 00:10 jcamins Because people will be expecting the articles to be in, when they are, in fact, checked out. 00:10 wahanui http://media.moddb.com/images/groups/1/3/2933/collapsing.gif 00:10 dcook No? 00:10 jcamins Also, if you circulate analytics a lot, the enhanced workflow will not do it for you. 00:09 jcamins Right. 00:09 dcook Your accession numbers being recorded in the 001, yes? 00:09 dcook Mmm, I was wondering how it did the linking 00:09 rangi true 00:08 jcamins On the other hand, it does work in some situations where the Enhanced workflow does not. If you don't have accession numbers, the Enhanced workflow does not work. 00:08 jcamins Provided you understand its limitations, which are numerous. 00:07 jcamins It's a very cool feature. 00:07 dcook Yeah, "EasyAnalyticals" seems...fishy 00:05 jcamins Right. 00:05 dcook And "Analyze Items" and "Link to host item" are EasyAnalytical-related? 00:05 jcamins Right. 00:05 dcook So "New Child Record" is part of the "Enhanced workflow" 00:00 jcamins I observed that. :)