Time  Nick            Message
00:10 tweetbot        [off] twitter: @talljoy: "@ranginui absolutely. A TX library that is thrilled with #kohails and was giving a presentation on open source in libraries!"
00:21 talljoy         ooh.  i've been auto-quoted.
00:48 bgkriegel       rangi?
00:48 wahanui         I LIKE ALMONDS! HAVE SOME NUTS!
00:50 bgkriegel       rangi: for 9986 in 3.10.x i think that 9105 is needed
00:57 jcamins         bug 9105
00:57 huginn`         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9105 normal, P5 - low, ---, m.de.rooy, Pushed to Master , Moving Z3950 search code to Breeding.pm
00:57 jcamins         Yeah, that's not for backporting then.
00:57 bgkriegel       I think so
01:03 jcamins         I hate waiting for strawberry cheesecake brownies to cook.
01:09 bgkriegel       I hope that is worth the waiting :)
01:10 bgkriegel       jcamins: do you think that bug 10017 could get  into 3.12.x?
01:10 huginn`         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10017 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, karamqubsi, Signed Off , Opac CCSR template do not cope well with right-to-left languages
01:15 jcamins         Yes.
01:16 jcamins         There are no string changes so there's plenty of time.
01:16 bgkriegel       Good. Karam is anxious :)
01:16 jcamins         :)
01:43 huginn`         New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 9659 follow-up: correct syntax for older Perl <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=906bf789febd3e97bd23ed2cc1fcf3233bdfba9c>
01:53 jcamins         cait?!?
01:53 wahanui         go back to bed, cait.
03:06 tcohen          rangi, the same (new) test file ReportsGuided.t is ok in 3.12.x but not in master
03:07 bgkriegel       hi tcohen
03:07 tcohen          hi bgkriegel
03:07 tcohen          back from Il Gatto
03:08 bgkriegel       sounds good :)
03:08 tcohen          yeah, need to rest horizonally
03:09 bgkriegel       me too, but learning XSD. Some progress actually
03:10 tcohen          i finished my tab-completion script for the most simple koha* scripts
03:11 bgkriegel       great:)
03:11 tcohen          but was a little bit lazy to fill new bugs for each of the scripts rewrite
03:12 bgkriegel       do you go tomorrow to FLISOL?
03:13 tcohen          neolibris invited me, but have some stuff to fix at home, not sure i can be there on time
03:13 bgkriegel       I'm planning to go, to take some pictures
03:14 bgkriegel       at last on the Koha talk
03:14 tcohen          i'll see if I can manage to be there at least to meet neolibris
03:15 bgkriegel       ok, do your homework first :)
03:16 tcohen          good night bgkriegel #koha
03:16 bgkriegel       night tcohen
05:52 cait1           good morning #koha
06:18 jenkins_koha    Starting build #308 for job Koha_3.8.x (previous build: SUCCESS)
06:41 rangi           @seen sjeffery
06:41 huginn`         rangi: sjeffery was last seen in #koha 13 weeks, 3 days, 14 hours, 42 minutes, and 51 seconds ago: <SJeffery> I am going to chalk this one up to "features of Koha that were (oddly) never developed"
06:42 rangi           someone doesnt understand how features get developed
07:08 jenkins_koha    Project Koha_3.8.x build #308: SUCCESS in 51 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.8.x/308/
07:08 jenkins_koha    Fridolyn SOMERS: Bug 9613: items namespace missing in XSLT
07:08 huginn`         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9613 minor, P5 - low, ---, fridolyn.somers, Pushed to Stable , items namespace missing in XSLT
07:09 jenkins_koha    Starting build #108 for job Koha_3.10.x (previous build: ABORTED -- last SUCCESS #106 1 hr 42 min ago)
07:50 jenkins_koha    Project Koha_3.10.x build #108: SUCCESS in 41 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.10.x/108/
07:50 jenkins_koha    * Kyle M Hall: Bug 9523: importing staged bib records hangs if a matched bib has been deleted
07:50 jenkins_koha    * Jared Camins-Esakov: Bug 10085: unapi does not function under Plack
07:50 huginn`         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9523 normal, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Pushed to Stable , Trying to import staged marc records where a matched bib has been deleted caused the import to hang
07:50 huginn`         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10085 blocker, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Pushed to Stable , Unapi does not function under Plack
08:27 mtj             rangi, curious… i wonder what the feature was?
08:34 mtj             aah… 8214 :)
08:41 mtj             ...what kind of a stupid system is KOAH, that wont allow me to create many items - all with the same barcode!
08:55 cait1           hey mtj
08:56 mtj             hey cait1 :)
08:56 cait1           :)
08:56 cait1           hm 2 caits...
08:56 * cait1         suspects the tablet to have stolen her identiy
08:58 mtj             how are you finding your tablet expereince?
08:58 mtj             and… what sort of tablet are you using?
08:58 cait1           I have an asus transformer
08:58 cait1           and i like it a lot :)
08:59 cait1           it's perfect to carry around and work on some concept stuff or just read something
08:59 cait1           and i love the mail program rangi recommended, it's perfect for reading huge amounts of qa mail
08:59 cait1           speaking of qa - we still got time
09:00 cait1           to pass qa on any bug that is waiting there
09:00 cait1           i would love to see the bug count go to 0 before release in our qeueu :)
09:00 cait1           queue
09:00 cait1           dashboard?
09:00 wahanui         i heard dashboard was at http://dashboard.koha-community.org/
09:00 cait1           25 this morning
09:03 * mtj           looks....
09:04 mtj             ah, yes… ive got no plans tonite, so i might do that :)
09:05 cait1           there is one for packaging and some for sip that I would appreciate someone looking at
09:05 mtj             (i have been adding to the sign-off queue, this evening)
09:05 cait1           that's ok too :)
09:06 cait1           nice to watch koha improve these days
09:11 mtj             it sure is :)
09:14 mtj             ok, bbiab, for some qa-ing...
10:24 huginn`         Oh no, not this fool again
11:16 jcamins         @later tell dcook If Edmund wrote the patch for bug 8264, I'd like to give him credit. Is that okay with you?
11:16 huginn`         jcamins: The operation succeeded.
11:35 cait1           good morning jcamins - good idea
11:37 jcamins         Only one patch left to deal with. Thank goodness.
11:48 cait1           hm?
11:49 cait1           i qa'd 5 or so
11:52 jcamins         In fourteen minutes?!?
11:56 cait1           no, but this morning :)
11:57 jcamins         Good. I'd like to have the queue down to zero at some point. :)
11:58 cait1           that's my goal also :)
11:58 cait1           ;)
11:58 cait1           but I guess I mean another queue
11:58 cait1           I woudl like to get all the bugs in
11:58 cait1           but it seems 20 is somehow a magical number right now
12:16 mtj             cait++
12:16 mtj             jcamins, i reckon we should bump bug 2774 to a blocker, or critical - what u think?
12:16 huginn`         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=2774 normal, P3, ---, oleonard, Passed QA , Path to theme is hard-coded in many places
12:23 jcamins         mtj: well, since it's not going into 3.12, I don't care.
12:24 jcamins         mtj: you were able to reproduce bug 10088?
12:24 huginn`         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10088 critical, P1 - high, ---, jonathan.druart, Passed QA , software error when filling a basket with staged record
12:25 mtj             yep
12:25 jcamins         Odd.
12:25 mtj             … and confimed the patch fixed the bug
12:27 jcamins         I think as the code is demonstrably correct that I will push it as-is.
12:29 tcohen          morning jcamins
12:29 jcamins         Morning.
12:29 wahanui         Ah, morning. The cat must be wanting breakfast.
12:29 huginn`         New commit(s) kohagit: Merge branch 'bug_10088' into 3.14-master <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=9c79f183174d710f37b414c8dfa0b94ea2b8036a> / Bug 10088: FIX adding an order from a staged file. <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=f2e44716f60578b9663862d7b2ba3b16f7067143> / Merge branch 'bug_2046' into 3.14-master <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=5c529f233
12:29 tcohen          my cat always want's breakfast *before* morning
12:30 jcamins         Hehe.
12:30 jcamins         Mine too, actually.
12:30 tcohen          what's his/her name?
12:30 jcamins         Myshkin. He's named after the prince in Dostoevsky's The Idiot.
12:31 tcohen          :-D
12:32 mtj             jcamins, cool - its a worthy fix, and looks safe to me, too...
12:32 mtj             heya tcohen :)
12:32 tcohen          hi mtj
12:33 * jcamins       contemplates release notes gloomily.
12:33 mtj             i think we need to have a discussion about an OPAC dir restructure, soon
12:34 mtj             … now that the CCSR themes have been added
12:34 mtj             jcamins, why so gloomy?
12:34 jcamins         mtj: it's going to take FOREVER.
12:35 mtj             aaah, ok… :(
12:35 cait1           jcamins: but it's so much fun!
12:35 jcamins         As of beta1 (!) there were 6 features, 169 enhancements, and 228 bugfixes.
12:35 mtj             soooo many bugs fixed, and new enhancementzzz ;(
12:36 jcamins         I am not going to describe every one of those bugfixes, though, I don't think.
12:36 cait1           we have upped the bug fixes some I would guess
12:36 jcamins         cait1: some?!?
12:36 wahanui         some are even missing from prefs - chris_n did some work on that, but didn't manage to talk with him about it yet
12:36 cait1           hehe
12:36 cait1           be happy, bugs get fixed
12:36 cait1           still enough remain... but it's good
12:36 jcamins         cait1: and beta1 was before the hackfest.
12:37 cait1           ah right
12:37 cait1           ok,.... a lot
12:37 cait1           massively
12:37 cait1           go and be depressed or take a cookie and get started :)
12:37 jcamins         hehe.
12:37 jcamins         Starting now.
12:37 cait1           also we can help, I will need a native language proof reader, but I can write some if you want to give me homework
12:37 tcohen          jcamins++
12:40 tcohen          hi cait1
12:40 jcamins         Okay...
12:40 jcamins         Why is all disk access on my server going at a crawl?
12:41 jenkins_koha    Starting build #18 for job Koha_3.12.x (previous build: SUCCESS)
12:41 tcohen          trashing
12:41 mtj             i spotted a nice big commit spike on ohloh recently -> https://www.ohloh.net/p/koha
12:42 jcamins         mtj: just one? ;)
12:43 cait1           I really think we are getting better each release
12:44 cait1           :)
12:45 mtj             well, 3 spikes…. adding up to one big spike :)
12:45 jcamins         Whoops.
12:45 jcamins         Did the build wrong.
12:45 jcamins         Since beta2 we have 2 enhancements, 143 bugfixes.
12:46 mtj             … yeah, i agree cait
12:52 tcohen          bug 10017 makes ccsr look great in arab
12:52 huginn`         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10017 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, karamqubsi, Signed Off , Opac CCSR template do not cope well with right-to-left languages
12:52 mtj             wow - jcamins has pushed at least *twice* as many commits to koha in the last month
12:53 mtj             …as ptfs/liblime pushed all of last year, to their repo
12:56 jcamins         mtj: doesn't seem too surprising.
12:56 jcamins         It includes 21 features, 158 enhancements and 369 bugfixes.
12:56 jcamins         ^^ current release notes
12:56 tcohen          12 month summary: 42 commits?
12:58 cait1           tcohen: marking it as bug ;)
12:59 tcohen          great!
12:59 cait1           we got the other 2 patches in as bugs, I don't see why fixing the opac ccsr should be different
12:59 jcamins         Agreed.
13:00 tcohen          i had never seen koha in arab, it looks great btw
13:02 cait1           jcamins: maybe another feature? :)
13:02 cait1           i mean noting somewhere how nice koha looks in arab now
13:02 jcamins         Yeah, that'll show up somewhere. :)
13:03 jcamins         @query right-to-left
13:03 huginn`         jcamins: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10017 normal, P5 - low, ---, karamqubsi, Signed Off , Opac CCSR template do not cope well with right-to-left languages
13:03 huginn`         jcamins: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8199 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Failed QA , Search results are contained into a table html element
13:03 huginn`         jcamins: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8061 major, P1 - high, ---, karamqubsi, Pushed to Master , Koha's templates do not cope well with right-to-left languages
13:19 jenkins_koha    Project Koha_3.12.x build #18: SUCCESS in 38 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.12.x/18/
13:19 jenkins_koha    * Colin Campbell: Bug 9684 : Correct path to compact.xsl
13:19 jenkins_koha    * Marcel de Rooy: Bug 10110: Problems with diacritics in saved SQL reports
13:19 jenkins_koha    * Marcel de Rooy: Bug 10110 Followup for Acquisition.pm
13:19 jenkins_koha    * Stefano Bargioni: Bug 10093 - Typo in marc21_leader.tt
13:19 jenkins_koha    * Jared Camins-Esakov: Add Stefano Bargioni to the history
13:19 jenkins_koha    * Kristina D.C. Hoeppner: Bug 2046 - Suggestions: Title Field too small
13:19 huginn`         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9684 major, P5 - low, ---, colin.campbell, Pushed to Master , Z39.50 Card View broken in CCSR
13:19 jenkins_koha    * Jared Camins-Esakov: Bug 2046: Increment version number
13:19 jenkins_koha    * Jonathan Druart: Bug 10088: FIX adding an order from a staged file.
13:19 huginn`         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10110 normal, P5 - low, ---, m.de.rooy, Pushed to Master , Problems with diacritics in saved SQL reports
13:19 huginn`         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10093 trivial, P5 - low, ---, bargioni, Pushed to Master , Typo in marc21_leader.tt
13:19 huginn`         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=2046 normal, P3, ---, kristina, Pushed to Master , Suggestions: Title Field too small
13:19 huginn`         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10088 critical, P1 - high, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , software error when filling a basket with staged record
13:19 jenkins_koha    Starting build #1153 for job Koha_master (previous build: FIXED)
13:21 jcamins         So... can I get another 92 patches in?
13:41 jcamins         Oh, look.
13:41 jcamins         No updated description of Mozilla Persona has appeared for me to include in the release notes.
13:41 jcamins         I guess the complaint about that was just a demand that I do more work for free.
13:46 mtj             jcamins, can you remember how to git-bz the last X commits?
13:47 mtj             or anyone else?
13:49 tcohen          you mean attach several patches with one ocmmand?
13:49 jcamins         mtj: in principle, I think HEAD~9, but I always just do it one patch at a time.
13:49 mtj             i thought the general syntax was SHA..SHA
13:49 mtj             $ git bz 9999 HEAD..HEAD~2
13:49 mtj             oops..
13:50 mtj             $ git bz attach 9999 HEAD..HEAD~2
13:51 mtj             i only recently discovered it… but i dont think i 'wrote it down' :/
13:58 bgkriegel       Hi all. mtj: I use git bz attach -e xxxx <commitid of first commit, e.g. b50ea9bd>^.., as explained in http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Git_bz_configuration
14:00 mtj             aaah, i had it backwards...
14:00 bgkriegel       or without -e if you are not signing
14:00 mtj             HEAD~2..HEAD, not  HEAD..HEAD~2
14:07 cait1           hi bgkriegel
14:08 cait1           I'd really like to see the framework updtaes happen for 3.12
14:08 cait1           do you think you could do a patch for the other frameworks? (FA, BKS, etc.) - I thin you said you used a script for updating?
14:10 bgkriegel       hi cait. yes, I think I can do it.
14:10 cait1           that would be really cool
14:10 cait1           those are not changing strings
14:10 cait1           so I could start working on it after string freeze even
14:10 bgkriegel       not in templates, only in database
14:10 cait1           yep
14:10 cait1           so safe for translators
14:11 cait1           maybe would be good to add to translated marc21 frameworks too, not sure there how to do it
14:11 cait1           I would certainly want to work on a patch for German
14:12 bgkriegel       ok, right now I'm working on value_builders, but that could wait a little
14:12 cait1           bgkriegel: maybe value builders are more important for nwo
14:12 cait1           those are string changes, right?
14:12 jcamins         No, value_builders are more important.
14:13 jcamins         Frameworks you can change after string freeze, value_builders not.
14:13 cait1           sorry to bother you
14:13 bgkriegel       no problem :)
14:13 cait1           bgkriegel: I mean I'd like to help, just don't know how much work it is for you with the script you have - so before i start working on it wanted to talk to you :)
14:14 bgkriegel       ok, I'll send it to you.
14:14 cait1           oh ok :)
14:15 cait1           I don#t think I will be able to start workin gon it before string freeze tho
14:15 cait1           i will start checking your already submitted patches
14:15 bgkriegel       good :)
14:16 * cait1         doens't feel like she is making much sense right now
14:21 cait1           bgkriegel: maybe I will sum it up to: I'd like to help making that go in? :)
14:21 cait1           and also bgkriegel++ for working on the value builders :)
14:22 bgkriegel       I hope to finish that today... may be
14:22 cait1           fingers crossed and sending virtual cookies
14:23 bgkriegel       thanks :)
14:29 jenkins_koha    Project Koha_master build #1153: UNSTABLE in 1 hr 9 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/1153/
14:29 jenkins_koha    * Colin Campbell: Bug 9684 : Correct path to compact.xsl
14:29 jenkins_koha    * Marcel de Rooy: Bug 10110: Problems with diacritics in saved SQL reports
14:29 jenkins_koha    * Marcel de Rooy: Bug 10110 Followup for Acquisition.pm
14:29 jenkins_koha    * Stefano Bargioni: Bug 10093 - Typo in marc21_leader.tt
14:29 jenkins_koha    * Jared Camins-Esakov: Add Stefano Bargioni to the history
14:29 jenkins_koha    * Kristina D.C. Hoeppner: Bug 2046 - Suggestions: Title Field too small
14:29 huginn`         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9684 major, P5 - low, ---, colin.campbell, Pushed to Master , Z39.50 Card View broken in CCSR
14:29 jenkins_koha    * Jared Camins-Esakov: Bug 2046: Increment version number
14:29 jenkins_koha    * Jonathan Druart: Bug 10088: FIX adding an order from a staged file.
14:29 huginn`         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10110 normal, P5 - low, ---, m.de.rooy, Pushed to Master , Problems with diacritics in saved SQL reports
14:29 huginn`         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10093 trivial, P5 - low, ---, bargioni, Pushed to Master , Typo in marc21_leader.tt
14:29 huginn`         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=2046 normal, P3, ---, kristina, Pushed to Master , Suggestions: Title Field too small
14:29 huginn`         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10088 critical, P1 - high, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , software error when filling a basket with staged record
14:36 tcohen          bye #koha, see u!
15:00 jcamins         Dyrcona! I bet you were just thinking "gee, I'd like to write some release notes for Koha as a way to pass the time on this glorious spring day."
15:01 Dyrcona         Ha!
15:01 Dyrcona         I wrote some release notes the other day for an Evergreen feature written by someone else. :)
15:01 Dyrcona         Actually, I was going to bug tsbere about something in Evergreen, but I figured it out.
15:02 jcamins         I am writing release notes for...
15:02 jcamins         21 features, 158 enhancements, and 369 bugfixes.
15:04 Dyrcona         We generally make the original author of the code provide release notes.
15:05 magnuse         psst, don't give jcamins any fancu ideas! ;-)
15:05 jcamins         That would probably have been a good idea.
15:05 cait1           hehe
15:05 cait1           noooo
15:06 Dyrcona         :)
15:06 * cait1         gives Dyrcona a cookie so he stops talking
15:06 jcamins         On the other hand, if we did that, the release notes wouldn't include bits like this: http://releasenotes.cpbibliography.com/record/11
15:06 cait1           well about release notes at least... don't want to get crumbles everywhere
15:06 Dyrcona         om nom nom.....good cookie!
15:07 cait1           :)
15:08 jcamins         I'm not sure if release notes like that are a good thing, of course.
15:08 jcamins         Probably not.
15:10 Dyrcona         I kind of like the humorous tone of that release note.
15:10 * Dyrcona       has a dry sense of humor.
15:15 jcamins         Oh, lovely.
15:15 jcamins         The commit message for bug 7067 bears no connection to reality.
15:15 huginn`         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7067 new feature, P5 - low, ---, kyle.m.hall, RESOLVED FIXED, allow patron self registration via the opac
15:36 jcamins         mtj: you have to create the PO files first.
15:36 jcamins         (re: bug 10041)
15:36 huginn`         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10041 normal, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Signed Off , Provide a koha-translate script to aid package users on installing translations
15:53 jcamins         Have I commented before how shocking I find it that someone would do a big blog post about a feature they wrote two months before said feature's inclusion in Koha?
15:55 jcamins         'Cause I really find it quite shocking.
16:13 mtj             jcamins, hmm… i dont know how to do that PO step
16:14 jcamins         mtj: you have to download fresh PO files from Pootle.
16:14 cait            bgkriegel++
16:14 jcamins         and/or run ./translate create fr-FR in misc/translation
16:14 mtj             aah, ok - i do know that step :)
16:15 bgkriegel       cait: work?
16:15 wahanui         work is progressing nicely
16:15 mtj             i guess the koha-translate tool could be patched to do that step too...
16:15 cait            that was just for sending it - more if it works :)
16:16 bgkriegel       ok :)
16:16 jcamins         mtj: I'm not sure there's any use for that.
16:16 cait            mtj: the files are updated all the time - you won't always get the right files
16:16 jcamins         cait: mtj is talking about the create step.
16:17 cait            oh sorry
16:17 cait            I tought the download
16:17 * cait          blames the icecream
16:17 jcamins         Hehe.
16:17 cait            distracting :)
16:17 jcamins         [off] http://releasenotes.cpbibliography.com/search
16:17 mtj             hmm, well… it would at least mean the install step *might* succeed?
16:18 cait            hm?
16:18 jcamins         mtj: we only officially support packages of our official releases.
16:18 cait            jcamins: 20 - well done
16:19 jcamins         cait: thanks.
16:19 jcamins         Another...
16:19 jcamins         159 + 369
16:19 wahanui         528
16:19 jcamins         ^^ ugh
16:19 cait            you can do eet
16:20 mtj             jcamins, ok… so there *is* some use for that step then - allowing the lang install to succeed
16:22 jcamins         mtj: I have no objections to adding it, but if the only reason you're failing it is that it requires packages to be built properly, I'll push it anyway.
16:22 jcamins         Remember, the PO files are supposed to be included in the distribution.
16:23 mtj             ok, now i understand your point...
16:24 cait            jcamins: if you think release note writing is bad - try translating the help files ;)
16:24 mtj             jcamins, so please - push away :)
16:24 jcamins         mtj: I'm not pushing it until I try it. Just saying that if you have no other objection, I'm counting it as having passed QA.
16:26 cait            it will be a nie addition :)
16:27 jcamins         715 lines worth of generated release notes.
16:27 jcamins         (left)
16:27 cait            are you working by a list from git?
16:28 tweetbot        [off] twitter: @libriotech: "Rumour has it #kohails 3.12 will contain at least 21 features, 158 enhancements, and 369 bugfixes. :-)"
16:28 jcamins         Nope. I probably should, but it's just an untracked text file.
16:28 cait            heh
16:28 mtj             jcamins, no probs - i just updated the bug with a pass-qa
16:28 cait            jcamins: I meant a list of bug numbers generated from git :)
16:29 jcamins         Ah.
16:29 jcamins         Yes.
16:30 jcamins         I'm not including non-user visible bugfixes.
16:31 cait            hm like?
16:31 drojf           jcamins: i don't know what you were referring to with the big blog post but i think i wrote a blog post about the html5 audio/video feature in 3.12 months ago
16:32 drojf           of course i have not published it yet because that would not make much sense…
16:32 cait            it was not you, relax :)
16:32 cait            drojf: don't translate now
16:32 cait            I didn't expect to be anyone around
16:32 drojf           lol i know it wan't me :D
16:32 drojf           wan#t
16:32 drojf           argh
16:32 cait            hehe
16:33 drojf           what about translation? this was  the they i planned for it for weeks :P
16:33 drojf           kidding
16:33 jcamins         drojf: someone did a blog post about a feature that did not look likely to go into 3.12 in January.
16:33 jcamins         @query accessibility
16:33 huginn`         jcamins: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=4274 minor, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, NEW , Cart now requires login before emailing contents
16:33 huginn`         jcamins: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=3144 normal, P5 - low, ---, mjr, In Discussion , anti-spam for opac-suggestions
16:33 huginn`         jcamins: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8712 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Needs Signoff , We should use WAI-ARIA guidelines to help with accessibility -OMNIBUS bug
16:33 huginn`         jcamins: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8600 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, pelletiermaxime, Signed Off , Remove search terms in advanced search
16:33 huginn`         jcamins: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9399 trivial, P5 - low, ---, agent.075, Failed QA , Accessibility - Search box options aren't buttons
16:34 cait            drojf: i just wanted to tell you that I am cheating and updating the po files today and doing some work with poedit on them ;)
16:34 cait            so hopefully I can upload complete files before the weekend is over
16:35 drojf           w00t
16:35 drojf           it's all yours ;)
16:35 drojf           cait++
16:36 cait            lol
16:36 cait            I kinda hoped you would get cranky not being able to do it yourself...
16:37 drojf           i am, i'm just not telling
16:37 cait            :)
16:37 * cait          runs perl translate update
16:40 cait            drojf: Authority search
16:40 cait            how do we call that so users get it?
16:40 drojf           honestly i do not think regular users get that at all, no matter what you call it. because they don't know about the concept.
16:41 cait            probably
16:41 drojf           (that wan't helpful, was it?)
16:41 cait            we could call it something funny so they get curious?
16:41 drojf           hahaha
16:41 drojf           icecream search
16:41 cait            hehe
16:42 drojf           just Normdatensuche?
16:43 cait            ok
16:43 drojf           at least the more librarish people know what it is then
16:45 cait            ccsr is done :P
16:48 drojf           hehe
16:49 cait            normal opac now too
16:50 druthb_mobile   cait++
16:54 drojf           that crazy feeling when you press "format disk" and suddenly think you confused the 2GB usb stick you wanted to do it on with the 2TB hard disk with all your stuff…
16:55 cait            oh yeah....
16:55 cait            and did you?
16:55 drojf           no :)
16:55 cait            drojf: I got the 3 small files sorted... now staff
16:55 cait            poedit shows 96%
16:55 cait            *sigh*
16:55 cait            12165 zeichenketten
16:55 drojf           96% done… or 96% to go?
16:55 drojf           ouch
16:55 cait            done
16:55 drojf           koha is huge
16:56 cait            it is
17:01 * druthb_mobile hiccups.
17:01 drojf           turns out i lose my internet connection when i insert an usb stick into the router
17:01 drojf           interesting feature
17:03 cait            drojf: oh I was wrong - 12165 total, only 306 fuzzy and 85 to translate
17:04 drojf           \o/
17:05 cait            drojf: i like being wrong like that :)
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18:11 cait            now 91 fuzzy and 42 to translate
18:33 magnuse         cait: and then the 3.12 translation is all done?!?
18:33 cait            yes
18:34 cait            but not words... entries
18:34 cait            and the help file ones are pretty long
18:35 magnuse         well 91 + 42 = nothing compared to the number of strings that are in there !
18:35 cait            it feels a lot right now
18:39 magnuse         you'll get there
18:39 magnuse         :-)
18:39 * magnuse       wanders off again
18:39 cait            :)
19:10 bgkriegel       cait?
19:10 wahanui         cait is probably qam, not your secretary
19:10 cait            yes?
19:10 bgkriegel       if you test bug 6509 you will find a few more strings to translate :)
19:10 huginn`         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6509 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, paul.poulain, NEW , Enhancement: More Information on Patron Fines Tab in Staff Client
19:11 cait            not sure if that sounds good right now :P
19:11 bgkriegel       sorry
19:11 cait            let me take a look
19:11 bgkriegel       bug 6709
19:11 huginn`         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6709 normal, P5 - low, ---, frederic, Needs Signoff , marc21_field_006.xml and marc21_field_008.xml can't be translated.
19:12 bgkriegel       this ^ one
19:13 cait            found it :)
19:13 cait            bgkriegel++
19:14 cait            bgkriegel: can the patch from chris be obsoleted? or do we need both?
19:14 bgkriegel       no, it's not needed
19:14 cait            can you obsolete it? :)
19:14 bgkriegel       ok
19:15 cait            looks good to me at first glance
19:15 cait            :)
19:15 bgkriegel       done
19:15 cait            awesome to see this finally fixed
19:15 cait            long term headache for me
19:15 bgkriegel       for me too
19:16 bgkriegel       there are no string changes, some sort of reorder :)
19:18 cait            :)
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20:57 SJeffery        rangi, mtj - You wanted to explain something to me?
21:37 rangi           not particularly, no
21:41 jenkins_koha    Starting build #109 for job Koha_3.10.x (previous build: SUCCESS)
21:59 rangi           hmm
22:05 rangi           only 4 more patches to check
22:05 rangi           and im finally caught up with master
22:23 jenkins_koha    Project Koha_3.10.x build #109: SUCCESS in 41 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.10.x/109/
22:23 jenkins_koha    * Katrin Fischer: Bug 8294: Fix display of serial enumeration for OPAC holds
22:23 jenkins_koha    * Owen Leonard: Bug 10026 - OPAC cart not showing location anymore
22:23 jenkins_koha    * Magnus Enger: Bug 9804 - Fix name for NORMARC biblio-koha-indexdefs.xml
22:23 jenkins_koha    * Katrin Fischer: Bug 9818: Fixing capitalization and remove dollar sign
22:23 jenkins_koha    * Mathieu Saby: Bug 9831: Correct and add authorised values un French UNIMARC installer
22:23 jenkins_koha    * Tomas Cohen Arazi: Bug 10107 - opacbookbag shouldn't prevent from adding items to a list in the OPAC
22:23 huginn`         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8294 major, P5 - low, ---, katrin.fischer, Pushed to Stable , enumeration should show in copy specific hold menu
22:23 huginn`         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10026 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Stable , OPAC cart not showing location anymore
22:23 huginn`         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9804 trivial, P5 - low, ---, magnus, Pushed to Stable , Fix name for NORMARC biblio-koha-indexdefs.xml
22:23 huginn`         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9818 normal, P5 - low, ---, katrin.fischer, Pushed to Stable , "Overdue Fines Cap ($)" should not use $ (I18N)
22:23 huginn`         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9831 minor, P5 - low, ---, mathieu.saby, Pushed to Stable , Wrong and missing values in installer for French UNIMARC
22:23 huginn`         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10107 normal, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Pushed to Stable , opacbookbag shouldn't prevent from adding items to a list in the OPAC
22:23 jenkins_koha    Starting build #309 for job Koha_3.8.x (previous build: SUCCESS)
22:36 jcamins         rangi: do you think you could get the chance when you update jenkins?
22:36 jcamins         rangi: that is, do you think you could update jenkins when you get the chance?
22:37 rangi           update in what way?
22:37 rangi           db update?
22:37 jcamins         Yeah.
22:38 rangi           will do
22:38 jcamins         Thanks.
22:39 rangi           done
22:39 jcamins         !jenkins build Koha_master now
22:39 jenkins_koha    jcamins: job Koha_master build scheduled now
22:39 jcamins         Thanks!
22:39 * jcamins       looks up recipes for clam chowder and oyster bisque.
22:40 rangi           :)
22:40 jcamins         Dinner for tonight is clam chowder, oyster bisque, and beef broth-with-bok choy.
22:44 * jcamins       promptly disregards everything the recipes say.
22:46 rangi           heh
22:53 tweetbot        [off] twitter: @ranginui: "Statistics for the Koha 3.10.5 release #kohails http://t.co/K6jbZqOC1X"
22:53 rangi           jcamins: did i ever show you this
22:53 rangi           http://jenkins.koha-community.org/view/Master%20Branch/
22:54 jcamins         You did not, but that's nice!
22:57 rangi           yeah its the wall display thingy
22:57 rangi           one of them anyway
22:57 wahanui         one of them is, like, bound to have a good idea ;)
23:02 jenkins_koha    Project Koha_3.8.x build #309: SUCCESS in 38 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.8.x/309/
23:02 jenkins_koha    * Magnus Enger: Bug 9804 - Fix name for NORMARC biblio-koha-indexdefs.xml
23:02 jenkins_koha    * Tomas Cohen Arazi: Bug 10107 - opacbookbag shouldn't prevent from adding items to a list in the OPAC
23:02 huginn`         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9804 trivial, P5 - low, ---, magnus, Pushed to Stable , Fix name for NORMARC biblio-koha-indexdefs.xml
23:02 huginn`         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10107 normal, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Pushed to Stable , opacbookbag shouldn't prevent from adding items to a list in the OPAC
23:04 jenkins_koha    Starting build #1154 for job Koha_master (previous build: UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #1152 20 hr ago)
23:55 rangi           annoying the daily quotes test failed, its a bit fragile that one
23:56 rangi           # Compared $data->{"source"} #    got : 'Theodore Roosevelt' # expect : 'Abraham Lincoln'