Time Nick Message
20:16 mtompset what is a compact privacy policy?
20:15 jcamins But as the Koha staff client explicitly is not IE-compatible, hardly surprising.
20:15 jcamins That's a pity.
20:15 mtompset Bingo! Because the site is lacking a compact privacy policy? or something like that.
20:14 mtompset Yes, the staff client... oh... perhaps my cookie settings are too protective.
20:13 jcamins mtompset: to the staff client?
20:12 mtompset Okay... this is weird... I can't stay logged in using IE?!
19:55 oleonard Busy day for jwagner, lots of Liblime-bashing to report.
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19:36 mtompset If I change to Western, it is valid. :(
19:35 mtompset Ah ha! There I have confirmed it is broken, tcohen.
19:33 mtompset Because I thought I saw him a couple weeks ago.
19:33 mtompset Clearly if you don't speak, that number doesn't get refreshed.
19:32 huginn chris_n: mbalmer was last seen in #koha 28 weeks, 1 day, 23 hours, 17 minutes, and 27 seconds ago: <mbalmer> I see it a bit different, obviously.
19:32 chris_n @seen mbalmer
19:28 mtompset Sorry for the lag. Upgrading to the latest dev on QA.
18:48 tcohen working on fridays should be forbidden for me
18:48 tcohen ouch, I mean, squeeze-dev packages
18:47 tcohen http://snag.gy/LIfZC.jpg
18:47 tcohen master
18:47 tcohen no, sorry
18:46 tcohen i'm on current squeeze-dev packages
18:46 mtompset Because my log in screen for Koha is just fine for 3.11.00.200 -- has that spanish n.
18:45 tcohen cannot find the problem, but chenging the encoding to iso-8859-1 fixes it...
18:45 tcohen i'm not sure is the .po, the translation scripts...
18:45 tcohen master
18:44 mtompset which version, tcohen?
18:43 oleonard I get that every time too mtompset, but I don't think it affects the outcome
18:41 mtompset warnings? errors? should I be concerned?
18:40 pastebot "mtompset" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "What I saw from 'perl translate install es-ES'" (15 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/467
18:40 wahanui it has been said that paste is found at http://paste.koha-community.org
18:40 mtompset paste?
18:37 Dyrcona Heh.
18:37 jcamins Dyrcona: it's true here too.
18:37 Dyrcona wrong channel. :)
18:37 Dyrcona oops.
18:37 huginn Dyrcona: Error: You must be registered to use this command. If you are already registered, you must either identify (using the identify command) or add a hostmask matching your current hostmask (using the "hostmask add" command).
18:37 Dyrcona @quote add <dbs> MARC is not machine readable.
18:36 mtompset http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Installation_of_additional_languages_for_OPAC_and_INTRANET_staff_client?
18:35 mtompset refresh my memory how to install it?
18:35 tcohen (Password > Contraseña)
18:34 tcohen can anyone try installing the es-ES translation and confirm the string for "Password" (at login) is broken if UTF8 selected for view?
18:30 mtompset Hmmm.... that sounds like what I want, except SAML 2.0 first, then Koha user.
18:29 jcamins Yes. If you can't authenticate against an existing Koha user, you check LDAP.
18:28 mtompset So LDAP authentication works at the same time as authentication against the Koha user's database?
18:26 jcamins The way other libraries deal with this is they have their LDAP for local users, and create Koha users for outside users.
18:26 jcamins If there is no sort of central authentication, how on earth can you rely on credentials?
18:25 jcamins You are welcome to try and make that possible, but my gut reaction is that the issue here is not so much lacking functionality as that you are trying to do something that Koha was not designed to do.
18:25 mtompset (use the default Koha MySQL for them)
18:25 mtompset That's the other data source.
18:25 mtompset But, we also want partner organizations to be able to sign in too.
18:24 mtompset (SAML 2.0 would mean I wouldn't have to transplant all the users in)
18:24 mtompset That's one data source.
18:24 mtompset We want any member of our organization to be able to sign into OPAC.
18:24 mtompset For example, we have libraries across Asia entered as branches.
18:23 mtompset true. Though, there are cases where it makes sense.
18:21 jcamins mtompset: authenticating against more than one service isn't something that most people find a need for.
18:16 mtompset koha is really aimed at authenticating against one source, isn't it?
18:16 mtompset Hmmm...
17:19 * magnuse wanders off to make pizza
17:02 druthb hm.
17:02 tcohen the "Use no" combination is hard to make fit into spanish
17:02 tcohen Use "no"|"xxx"|"kkk" field to store something
17:01 druthb (if I'm understanding the problem.
17:01 druthb hm….I don't know. Might translate it to " ", if pootle doesn't accept ""
16:59 tcohen (solving a wording issue here)
16:59 tcohen druthb: is there a way to translate "Use" into "" ?
16:57 khall lol, thanks!
16:57 * druthb comforts khall with cookies
16:57 druthb :P
16:55 khall : )=
16:55 * druthb blames khall
16:44 khall and makes it my fault ; )=
16:44 khall indeed, that would be a good idea.
16:44 oleonard ...but it certainly could
16:44 oleonard It doesn't look like that column has a heading in master
16:43 oleonard Looks like it shows whether a hold is suspended
16:42 khall patch looks good. Any idea what the empty column on the far right of the holds table is for?
16:42 khall yeah, that would be quite nice, wouldn't it?
16:41 oleonard It would be cool if git-bz seamlessly handled bug dependencies
16:41 * oleonard crosses his fingers
16:41 khall nope, I didn't notice the depends on. thanks! I'll retest
16:40 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9887 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Passed QA , Use DataTables on circulation page
16:40 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9903 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Failed QA , Sort by date broken on patron detail page
16:40 oleonard khall: Did you test Bug 9903 on top of the patch for Bug 9887?
16:26 mtompset This permissions thing was given on my ponder a solution list too.
16:26 mtompset I've come back to the SAML 2.0 implementation issue, and it would seem we need to be able to authenticate against multiple methods... like the default MySQL and a SAML 2.0 server.
16:26 oleonard Agreed.
16:25 jcamins Rewriting permissions would be a great idea, but would require a massive amount of work in order to write code that could get into Koha.
16:24 mtompset Can't full do that if they are in partner organizations.
16:24 jcamins I still think you should just train your librarians.
16:24 oleonard Lots of people would be happy with an overhaul to Koha permissions, adding permissions groups and stuff like that
16:24 mtompset I'm thinking more of the catalog-ing, data entry, staff client side of things.
16:24 mtompset Not quite. This seems to be on the searching side of things.
16:17 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9055 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, wrobertson1981, Patch doesn't apply , Mandumah.com's multiple branch search, multiple branch security mod
16:17 jcamins Bug 9055 might do what you want.
16:17 huginn jcamins: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6891 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , LDIF interoperability - a proposal
16:17 huginn jcamins: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6559 major, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , super librarians can only assign holding to current location
16:17 huginn jcamins: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8042 normal, P5 - low, ---, cnighswonger, NEW , Batch numbers aren't committed as used until an item is added
16:17 huginn jcamins: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=2237 enhancement, P4, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Auto-populate 'userid' and 'password' fields with other field values, when adding user
16:17 huginn jcamins: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9190 critical, P1 - high, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Problem with holds - allow place a hold without all items checked out
16:17 jcamins @query multiple branches
16:16 jcamins But the only way to limit someone by branch is to turn on independant branches.
16:16 mtompset Would this feature be something people would be interested in?
16:16 jcamins Branches make sense.
16:15 mtompset branches is kind of necessary given their geography compared to other libraries in the group.
16:14 jcamins Or, you know, train your librarians better and don't use independant branches.
16:14 jcamins Yes.
16:12 mtompset So, two different user ids for one person to be able to do that?
16:12 jcamins No.
16:11 mtompset Let's say I have 3 branches, and want one person to be able to edit 2 of them. Is there a way to do that currently?
16:10 mtompset I have a question about permissions to edit in Koha.
16:10 mtompset Greetings, #koha.
16:03 wahanui druthb is our translation manager for 3.12
16:03 tcohen druthb?
15:59 tcohen (the default behaviour is that it means "untranslated" I think)
15:59 tcohen Something -> empty
15:58 tcohen is it possible to set "empty" for a string translation?
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15:25 reiveune bye
15:25 rambutan Every three letter organization has a big library, and most of them need lots of help
15:24 rambutan you know, y'all, to kinda pick up on a recent conversation, some support company needs to actively solicit US government work for ILS support. There's both need and $$ there, despite the hassle and red tape.
15:24 jcamins You have a point.
15:24 jcamins Heh.
15:23 rambutan I simply used the initial two letters. I think East Germany has left for the day.
15:20 jcamins Isn't ge *East* Germany?
15:20 kf ok leaving - bye all :)
15:20 jcamins Oh.
15:20 kf :)
15:20 rambutan I meant GE = Germany, of course
15:19 kf what did he mean?
15:19 jcamins Very cool!
15:19 kf i thought he meant germany :)
15:19 rambutan and Emerson Electric
15:19 rambutan and AT & T
15:19 rambutan druthb: yea, I think it's a matter of being too close to the subject to appreciate the interest factor for others (hopefully that's stated in a positive way)
15:18 jcamins GE uses Koha?
15:17 kf lol
15:17 rambutan or talk about how cookie recipes might be indexed and what marc record the nuts should be listed in
15:16 druthb rambutan: I tried to sell her on that same idea, and she told me the same thing. It *would* be interesting, but can't seem to convince *her* of that.
15:16 kf slowly growing, but not big
15:16 kf we are not a big koha community here yet
15:16 rambutan well, it would be to me.
15:16 kf will think about it :)
15:16 kf hm
15:15 kf rambutan: thx for the suggestion - but not sure that woudl be interesting?
15:12 jcamins :)
15:11 druthb :D
15:10 tcohen new authorities have been elected at UNC, time to ask my bosses about going to Reno
15:10 rambutan just talk about the GE libraries use of koha
15:09 kf [off] so...does anyone have an idea what I could talk about if I was going to reno?
15:09 gmcharlt that will sustain me through the Evergreen Board Meeting!
15:09 gmcharlt yum!
15:09 * kf hands gmcharlt a bag of cookies before he can disappear again
15:08 kf he has this way of suddenly appearing
15:01 druthb willdo! :)
15:00 gmcharlt druthb: shoot me an email with the deets
14:59 druthb yah. I've tinkered with it on my box here, but I'm just not quite grokking it. I *know* I need gmcharlt (or someone) to set up an "official" repo on git.k-c.org
14:57 magnuse druthb: submodule?
14:55 druthb I'm still trying to wrap my brain around the sub-project trick in git, and how one goes about updating, etc.
14:54 jcamins So I (and presumably everyone else) just end up downloading the files off of Pootle anyway.
14:53 jcamins With the .PO files in the main repo, 99.98% of the time, the translations are just plain wrong.
14:53 jcamins By a lot.
14:53 jcamins druthb: but pulling the .PO files out of the main repo will make it easier.
14:51 magnuse yeah, i guess that could be interesting too, if you want to change your translation without waiting for official packages of it
14:51 druthb That's one of my concerns about pulling the .PO out of the main repo…making sure it keeps things *EASY* for folks who are hacking…and also the installation problem.
14:51 tcohen install, update, delete action switches
14:51 magnuse eythian has been working on packages for the translations, so you can install e.g. nb-NO
14:51 * druthb perks up.
14:50 magnuse tcohen: that could be neat
14:50 tcohen I thought of providing a simple way for the user to install/update their trnaslations
14:50 tcohen i think i'll ask him later on the status of that work
14:48 magnuse it probably needs some rebasing now
14:48 magnuse i meant to test it for a looong time, but never found the time
14:48 magnuse tcohen: http://git.catalyst.net.nz/gw?p=koha.git;a=shortlog;h=refs/heads/wr83663-l10n
14:47 tcohen thanks magnuse
14:47 magnuse tcohen: let me try and find the branch for you
14:46 magnuse tcohen: might make sense to have a look at what he has done, and/or talk to him first
14:46 jcamins magnuse: I never had problems with it before either, but that's what the changelog says.
14:46 tcohen magnuse: so i shouldn't be bothering to write it?
14:45 magnuse jcamins: i never had trouble with that i think?
14:45 jcamins Older versions of yaz can't listen on ipv4?
14:45 magnuse it's a branch in the catalyst repo
14:45 tcohen nope
14:45 magnuse tcohen: have you seen the work eythian has done on i18n for the packages?
14:45 tcohen but, don't know how to do it if it is not in the lib/ install
14:45 jcamins You've got to be kidding me.
14:44 magnuse yay
14:44 tcohen i was about to write a koha-translate command for packages and thought of doing it using Perl ;)
14:43 magnuse LangInstaller.pm? good question...
14:41 magnuse regarding liblime koha v.s. koha - i think someone had some really revealing stats showing the activity in each project a few months back?
14:40 tcohen why is LangInstaller on the translator dir?
14:39 drojf yeah. he has been here a few times in march and april, according to my incomplete logs
14:39 magnuse yeah, i think it remembers the last time you said something
14:37 drojf or it was a dream :)
14:37 drojf that only works for people that talk
14:36 huginn drojf: mbalmer was last seen in #koha 28 weeks, 1 day, 18 hours, 21 minutes, and 37 seconds ago: <mbalmer> I see it a bit different, obviously.
14:36 drojf @seen mbalmer
14:36 jcamins why is my Z39.50 server listening only on IPv6?
14:36 jcamins Okay...
14:35 drojf i have seen him appear on irc for a second not too long ago
14:35 magnuse [off] lol
14:35 jcamins Probably.
14:35 jcamins Heh.
14:35 oleonard I wonder if mbalmer still checks in with Koha to see if we have dropped support for MySQL yet?
14:34 drojf we seem to have a high influx of people from turkey looking for solr in koha. or of the same person coming to ask with different names
14:34 oleonard Solr seems to have a devoted following.
14:33 jcamins I read that discussion the same way magnuse did. He was offended that I said negative things about Solr.
14:33 magnuse well, it must be confusing for someone who does not know the history...
14:33 jcamins lol
14:32 oleonard Hey everyone, don't be surprised if we don't recommend Liblime! Sheesh.
14:32 druthb :P
14:31 magnuse lol
14:31 oleonard Did our lack of masters degrees in information retrieval cause offense?
14:29 oleonard I can't imagine using a Liblime fork without paid support--there's no community to fall back on for support
14:29 oleonard The only good reason to use Liblime's product is that someone is forcing you to do so. Presumably that someone is also paying the bill for it.
14:25 jcamins But you probably knew I'd think that. ;)
14:25 jcamins Well, if you ask me, the version supported by the community is almost certainly the way to go no matter what.
14:25 jcamins If you're looking to contribute to Koha, the version supported by the community is almost certainly the way to go.
14:24 zento thank you all so much
14:24 zento jcamins , i have master degree about this topic. Ok, lets forget it
14:24 jcamins Have I commented before that we're doing this wrong?
14:23 * jcamins contemplates public Z39.50 wanly.
14:23 jcamins I don't have a degree in the subject, though, if that's what you mean.
14:22 jcamins zento: I don't know what you mean by that, but I spend most of my time working on issues of search and indexing.
14:22 kf and even better once the work jcamins is doing will be all done ;)
14:22 kf it works quite well
14:22 kf zento: even without Solr Koha uses a search engine - Zebra
14:22 zento jcamins , do you have information retrieval background?
14:20 jcamins If you ask me, it is a solution in search of a problem.
14:20 * jcamins is not a fan of Solr in Koha, though.
14:20 jcamins I do not think it supports Solr well, but I don't know that it works any worse (or better) than the support in LibLime's fork.
14:19 jcamins Koha 3.10 also supports Solr.
14:19 zento i did not test it but...
14:19 zento 4.14 uses solr
14:19 * jcamins will take your word for that.
14:18 zento but liblime has good effords too
14:17 kf they were a koha service provider like others, but decided to do things differently...
14:17 zento jcamins i agree wity you ;)
14:17 jcamins They still have at least one proprietary software package they call "Koha," I think.
14:16 kf I think people often think liblime started Koha or something, but that's not the case
14:16 jcamins Yup.
14:16 zento two different projects :(
14:16 jcamins Well, some of their source code.
14:16 zento oh!
14:16 jcamins They eventually changed their mind and released their source code, but not before the rest of the community had moved on.
14:15 jcamins zento: LibLime forked Koha and made it closed source several years ago.
14:15 zento why dont you work on a same project, i did not understand!
14:14 kf so even then it would have advantages to use Koha over the liblime version
14:14 kf than the versions bakc then could
14:14 zento i want to ask you about solr
14:13 kf Koha supports translation better by now
14:13 kf they are still using HTP I think - the old templating system.
14:13 jcamins Actually, a correction: I'm pretty sure there isn't any place for asking about LibLime's Koha fork.
14:13 oleonard zento: Does Liblime even develop their fork with internationalization in mind? I wouldn't be surprised if the answer was no
14:13 zento yeah, i see that
14:13 tcohen zento: this is no place for asking about liblime's koha fork
14:13 druthb The community has a whole bunch of active translators already working…the German translation for 3.12 is nigh-on complete.
14:13 zento no
14:12 kf zento: are you from germany?
14:12 zento orliblime just can be used in english?
14:12 jcamins zento: probably not, but you'd have to ask someone who uses the LibLime fork.
14:12 zento liblime has old translaton packs. can i translate a .po file from english to german
14:12 zento first translations
14:12 zento i want to test two editions
14:10 oleonard We can answer questions about Koha, but we can't answer questions about Liblime products
14:09 zento i want to ask a qustion about community and liblime editions
14:08 zento hi!
13:20 magnuse \o
13:05 druthb o/
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12:42 kf ok, apart from having no internet at all
12:42 kf :)
12:42 kf oleonard: there is nothing wrong with the trial and error approach....
12:30 magnuse pizza!
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12:26 oleonard If I knew khall's plan would work I would implement it without hesitation
12:26 kf it's friday... there is a need for pizza in any plan
12:26 kf oleonard: find someone else you can buy pizza to distract the it person while you try khall's suggestion? :)
12:23 khall it'll open most things ; )
12:23 khall try a crowbar
12:23 oleonard The IT person who configured this firewall is no longer with us. The person who manages it now doesn't know how to open the ports.
12:22 kf can you find the it person and buy him/her pizza?
12:22 kf ouch!
12:22 * oleonard is stuck with an overly-restrictive firewall again today, so no real IRC, no git :(
12:22 khall mornin oleonard!
12:21 kf happy friday oleonard :)
12:21 oleonard Hi #koha
12:21 kf so it should not be that I guess
12:21 kf khall: I do that too
12:16 tcohen $ echo $PERL5LIB
12:16 khall I should note I'm just running as the user 'koha'
12:15 tcohen ~/koha-dev/etc/koha-conf.xml
12:15 tcohen $ echo $KOHA_CONF
12:14 wahanui hmmm... /home/koha/koha-dev/etc/koha-conf.xml is the one to use, then
12:14 khall :/home/koha/kohaclone:/home/koha/kohaclone/C4/SIP:/home/koha/koha-qa-tools
12:14 khall 08:10 ~$ echo $PERL5LIB
12:14 khall /home/koha/koha-dev/etc/koha-conf.xml
12:14 khall 08:06 ~$ echo $KOHA_CONF
12:13 tcohen i ran perlcritic alone, with --profile to check my patch was OK
12:12 kf i can't check my setup where it's working right now :(
12:12 kf ok, I ran out of ideas
12:11 tcohen yes
12:11 kf and environment variables are set?
12:11 kf http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=qa-test-tools.git;a=blob;f=README;h=95994ba1a42216e6549badf0bd8cbfee3863f984;hb=477785b4f4a7f243887eb6c5ba1cb517a4cf8e1c
12:11 tcohen i copied
12:10 kf ah symlink?
12:10 tcohen actually perlcritic alone didn't use it, i passed --profile path/gile
12:10 kf did you copy it?
12:09 kf and problems
12:09 kf I had it starting with .
12:09 khall lrwxrwxrwx 1 koha koha 37 Mar 25 14:18 perlcriticrc -> /home/koha/koha-qa-tools/perlcriticrc
12:09 kf i think I had the name worng at first
12:09 tcohen i couldn't get koha-qa.pl to use it
12:09 khall in my home dir
12:09 kf where did you place it?
12:09 kf ?
12:09 kf khall: did you get the perlcritic file
12:09 tcohen hi khall
12:09 khall mornin tcohen!
12:08 khall looks like Jonathan may know more, he wrote the last few patches on it
12:08 khall nope, same deal
12:07 khall hm, I'll try that anyway
12:06 kf and nothing of this is probably helfpul for you, khall
12:06 kf hm and I am in my git repository and the file is in the qa-tools one, so I do something like /home/katrin/qa-test-tools/koha-qa.pl -c 1 -v 2
12:05 kf -c 1 -v 2
12:05 kf khall: the only thing I do different is the sequence
12:03 kf and sorry, I got called away
12:03 kf I had it happen but it's not normal I think
12:03 kf hm no
11:44 khall note I always end up on the branch qa-current-commit, is that normal?
11:44 khall 07:40 ~/kohaclone (qa-current-commit $)$
11:44 khall sh: Syntax error: "(" unexpected
11:44 khall sh: Syntax error: "(" unexpected
11:44 khall 596f7a7 Merge remote branch 'origin/new/bug_8770'
11:44 khall testing 1 commit(s) (applied to 88f2dd7 'Merge branch 'bug_9381' into 3.12-mas')
11:44 khall 07:40 ~/kohaclone ((596f7a7...) $)$ koha-qa.pl -v 2 -c 1
11:44 khall one current master I even get an error:
11:43 khall sh: Syntax error: "(" unexpected
11:43 khall valid_template OK
11:43 khall tt_valid OK
11:43 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8215 new feature, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Signed Off , Add Course Reserves
11:43 khall forbidden patterns OK
11:43 khall * koha-tmpl/intranet-tmpl/prog/en/modules/course_reserves/course-details.ttOK
11:43 khall sh: Syntax error: "(" unexpected
11:43 khall - koha-tmpl/intranet-tmpl/prog/en/modules/course_reserves/course-details.tt
11:43 khall a082490 Bug 8215: Followup Fix confirmation links for delete course and item
11:43 khall testing 1 commit(s) (applied to 1c27c3c 'Bug 8215 - Add Course Reserves - QA F')
11:43 khall 07:36 ~/kohaclone ((a082490...) $)$ koha-qa.pl -v 2 -c 1
11:43 khall : )=
11:41 kf but not sure if that counts much :)
11:41 kf i am using it
11:41 khall does anyone currently here have much experience with koha-qa.p.?
11:40 khall hey all, I'm trying to use koha-qa.pl and I get an error most times I try to use it
08:59 magnuse hiya kf
08:47 kf moin magnuse
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07:38 magnuse moin drojf and kf
07:37 drojf good morning #koha
07:31 dcook Yep ^_^
07:31 dcook hehe
07:30 wahanui goodnight dcook. You'll be back.
07:30 dcook Night all!
07:30 dcook Time to head out for me though!
07:30 * dcook waves to kf
07:28 kf god morning #koha
06:59 magnuse we'll try!
06:58 bag be excellent to one another and party on doods!
06:58 magnuse have fun bag
06:58 wahanui goodnight bag. You'll be back.
06:58 bag be well
06:58 bag night all
06:58 bag alright I think it's time for me to head home…
06:57 bag HA
06:57 bag but in a foreign language :P
06:55 magnuse mostly...
06:55 magnuse hehe, normarc is mostly a subset of marc21 though
06:55 magnuse ah
06:54 bag give me 10 minutes and it's friday!
06:54 bag except my ability to read normarc :(
06:54 magnuse yay!
06:54 bag I am glad we have more in common :)
06:54 magnuse huh?
06:53 bag you're soo cool magnuse++
06:52 magnuse bag: but for you it's still thursday?
06:52 * magnuse makes pizza every friday night too
06:51 magnuse yay!
06:51 bag so that's coming up :)
06:51 bag yay! yeah Sonja and I do make your own pizza friday nights
06:50 magnuse ooh, today is pizzaday!
06:50 magnuse hiya bag
06:49 bag good morning to you
06:48 wahanui magnuse is afraid that we added another 10000 bugs while he was eating pizza.
06:48 bag heya magnuse
06:48 * magnuse waves
06:41 wahanui niihau, bag
06:41 bag hello
06:39 reiveune hello
06:02 mtj ok, i gotta go too… cya #koha
06:00 gmcharlt g'night
06:00 bag alright bye!
05:59 bag Ames is awesome!
05:59 bag great! make sure you say hi to Amy terlaga and Ben next time you see them
05:59 paul_p bye & see you later #koha
05:58 paul_p hi bag. Just sending mail, and going by car to a meeting (financial/bank/accounting training...)
05:58 bag morning paul_p
05:57 gmcharlt bag: I am!
05:56 wahanui gmcharlt is an expert in all things library technology.
05:56 bag having fun at the conference ?
05:56 bag heya gmcharlt
05:56 cait fingers crossedthen :)
05:56 bag I've got an interview at a new one tomorrow
05:55 huginn gmcharlt: Quote #96: "< owen> If your vendor calls it KOHA you know it's not really Koha." (added by wasabi at 05:56 AM, October 08, 2010)
05:55 gmcharlt @quote random
05:54 mtj bagz, you are moving offices soon, huh?
05:53 bag I'll do that from my next office mtj :)
05:52 bag HAHAHAHAHA sorry cait
05:51 bag I want to leave this office building - so I think this is just another reason to do it :)
05:51 mtj bag, set up a squid proxy on a linode vm, and restict access to your ip
05:50 cait sorry still bit confused
05:50 bag eh I'd rather just keep doing what I'm doing and then call it a night :)
05:50 cait the browsers
05:50 shalom no
05:50 cait bag: that was for shalom :)
05:50 cait shalom: what did you do to create your acq framework? did you change those fields a lot?
05:50 shalom not all
05:50 bag cait I've tried a few different browses and I don't have a proxy
05:50 mtj bag, but, it sounds like your connection is just plain crappy
05:49 cait shalom: does it happen in all different browsers?
05:49 shalom :(
05:49 mtj bags, i guess you could attempt some tricky ssh tunneling to a VM of yours, on the net?
05:48 shalom someone suggest to me if i can see the item form in acquisition, it could be the services/itemrecorddisplay.pl script split
05:48 bag pinging 4.2.2.1 50% dropped packets
05:48 bag yup anything on port 80 times out or loads after a long long time
05:48 bag (I need to get that in everytime I talk to mtj)
05:47 shalom i don't know how to put it...
05:47 mtj aww, thanks :p
05:47 cait hi mtj :)
05:47 * mtj waves to shalom, cait , bags
05:46 bag by the way mtj you're awesome!
05:46 bag I mean I've even flushed dns's and all that
05:46 cait irc working, but not internet
05:46 cait I had some bad proxy setting in my browse rlately that caused something similar
05:46 cait m
05:46 cait h
05:46 bag yeah no kidding mtj
05:46 mtj irc works ok, but http is borked?!
05:45 mtj bag, your interwebs problem is a bit weird, yeah?
05:45 mtj shalom, hmm, check how?
05:40 shalom did anyone know how to check the services/itemrecorddisplay.pl script?
05:34 bag heh
05:34 bag I knew that you'd make up your mind better - than I could suggest :)
05:33 cait it's morning - I am totally confused now :)
05:33 bag OR most of half and some of all
05:33 bag half of one and most of the other :P
05:31 cait hm should I read in my distance study book or do qa before going to work?
05:31 cait ;)
05:31 bag cait++
05:31 bag yeah I believe cait
05:31 huginn bag: Current local time in London, United Kingdom: <http://www.thetimenow.com/united_kingdom/london>; Martha Davis - Don't Tell Me The Time (1987) Improved Audio! Hit ...: <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IhcWOLNpDvU>; Doctor, Doctor, Tell Me The Time Of Day | Gardener Is Gone: <http://gardenerisgone.com/2012/09/11/doctor-doctor-tell-me-the-time-of-day/>; Martha Davis - Don't Tell Me The Time Lyrics: (2 more messages)
05:30 bag @google tell me the time!
05:30 bag that's a funny result
05:30 bag HA -- Why Germany Hates Tom Cruise - TIME:
05:29 dcook The Canadian will confirm it ;)
05:28 cait you will have to take my word then, it's really 7:25 am now :)
05:28 bag that sucks
05:28 cait lol
05:28 bag OH NOES!!! those are all links and I can't click on links right now
05:27 bag :D
05:27 cait neat
05:27 huginn bag: Current local time in Germany - World Time Server: <http://www.worldtimeserver.com/current_time_in_DE.aspx>; Germany - World Time Clock & Map: <http://24timezones.com/current_local/germany_time.php>; Current local time in Germany – Berlin – Berlin: <http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/city.html?n=37>; Why Germany Hates Tom Cruise - TIME: (2 more messages)
05:27 bag @google what time is it in Germany
05:27 dcook Annoying idiocyncracies of PHP OOP aside...
05:27 cait 7:23 am
05:27 bag cait what time is it there?
05:26 dcook I love work
05:26 dcook Actually, I'm having a great time
05:26 dcook Wait...
05:26 dcook Yay work!
05:26 dcook You're one of my favourites too ^_^
05:26 dcook D'awww
05:26 cait heh
05:26 bag so sadly I can still work :P
05:26 bag and at least I can use port 22 :)
05:26 bag two of my favorites :)
05:26 bag and I can hang out with dcook and cait
05:25 cait :)
05:25 bag well cait at least I have this port working well :)
05:24 cait brokeninternet makes me very grumpy too
05:24 dcook Yeah, Google mentioned that ;)
05:24 bag :P
05:24 bag Donald Trump aka "the donald"
05:24 bag the sad thing is I'm been complaining about this internet for weeks now
05:24 dcook I forget "the donald" exists most of the time
05:24 dcook Google is my friend...
05:24 dcook Ahhh...
05:23 bag right
05:22 dcook "the donald"?
05:22 dcook Until you realize that you have to set the property before you load the xml..
05:22 bag I feel like "the donald"
05:22 dcook an object's property*
05:22 bag man this place is fired! heh
05:22 dcook The moment when you can't figure out why changing a property doesn't do anything...
05:22 bag no luck
05:22 dcook Ahhh
05:06 bag alright going to go unplug anything I can get my hands on
05:05 bag man this is so annoying
05:04 dcook :S
05:03 bag but this port seems fine
05:02 bag yeah weird I can't even ssh to another server from here
05:01 dcook new office! :D
05:01 bag good thing I've got a meeting tomorrow morning for a new one
05:01 bag I am sooo annoyed with this office
05:00 bag but this seems fine
05:00 bag well my office internet
05:00 bag man my internet is having problems
04:59 dcook hey bag!
04:59 cait hi bag :)
04:59 bag heya dcook and cait
04:53 cait hey dcook :)
04:53 dcook belated hello, cait :)
04:19 bag my internets are sucking right now
04:19 bag bummer :(
04:18 cjh bag: I can read you loud and clear.
04:18 bag I can't load a single site
04:18 bag just wondering if I have internet connection
04:17 bag can anyone hear me?
03:33 bag jcamins closer to springfield
02:47 jcamins Hey, does sekjal live somewhere near Worcester?
02:42 jcamins book_fairs++
01:16 huginn gmcharlt: Quote #106: "<jwagner> Bah, humbug" (added by druthb at 01:31 PM, November 29, 2010)
01:16 gmcharlt @quote random
00:22 bgkriegel :)
00:22 wahanui tcohen is 120
00:22 bgkriegel tcohen?
00:21 tcohen good night #koha
00:06 tcohen who knows, maybe 14
00:02 * dcook voted for argentina for Kohacon13 ;)