Time Nick Message 23:46 wahanui OK, eythian. 23:46 eythian wahanui: git koans is http://stevelosh.com/blog/2013/04/git-koans/ 23:41 dcook But there we go. All set up in the client anyway 23:39 dcook A bouncer would be ideal, but I haven't gotten around to really plotting that yet 23:39 wizzyrea or you can be clever and use a bouncer 23:39 wizzyrea or you can do it with your client 23:39 dcook I totally forgot about NickServ until yesterday 23:39 dcook It's been something like...10-15 years since I used IRC regularly 23:38 eythian you can tell your IRC client to do it for you 23:38 wizzyrea aw 2 seconds too slow 23:37 wizzyrea ;) 23:37 wizzyrea /msg nickserv identify password nick 23:37 dcook Morning all ^_^ 23:37 Guest1665 I'll remember this all eventually... 23:37 Guest1665 Gah 22:50 cait night all :) 22:47 cait ok :) 22:47 eythian if not, make sure you grab the whole error message, often it has a clue about something else shady going on. 22:46 eythian yeah :) 22:46 cait hopefully it will work tomorrow 22:46 cait thx for the hints :) 22:45 cait noted 22:42 eythian however, it is worth periodically running pbuilder update to make sure everything is current. 22:42 eythian when setting up the build environment 22:42 eythian cait: I would expect it to have failed earlier then 22:42 rangi could be 22:41 cait could it be something simple like... no internet connection and not being able to install or so? 22:41 cait so does that tell us anything? 22:41 cait aha 22:40 eythian it's definitely depended on (in fact, by virtue of the alphabet, it's the first one) 22:40 eythian Build-Depends: libalgorithm-checkdigits-perl, 22:38 cait looks about right 22:38 eythian that one? 22:38 eythian libalgorithm-checkdigits-perl: /usr/share/perl5/Algorithm/CheckDigits.pm 22:37 cait we tried perl t/Labels.t and it complained about missing algorithm/checkdigits 22:36 eythian hmm OK 22:35 cait I guess the one was the compile one 22:35 cait and it said only 1 out of 6 22:35 cait then t/Labels.t 22:35 cait it was running the test suite 22:35 cait eythian: I have only seen it on the screen for a moment 22:35 rangi I: pbuilder-time-stamp: 1365459857 22:35 rangi I: Current time: Tue Apr 9 10:24:17 NZST 2013 22:34 rangi dpkg-deb: building package `koha-common' in `../koha-common_3.12-1~git+20130409101805.596f7a74_all.deb'. 22:34 rangi it just built for me, if thats any consolation 22:32 eythian got? 22:32 eythian what, exactly, was the error you go? 22:32 eythian does mean there's something different when you do it 22:31 cait well, that's good :) 22:31 eythian will try 3.12.x, but I don't expect it to be different 22:31 eythian cait: building on master fails to fail for me 22:29 tweetbot OK, now watching for 'kohails' 22:29 mtj !twadd kohails 22:20 * cait leaves a cookie for wizzyrea for later 22:20 cait oh 22:16 * wizzyrea shuts up and goes away. 22:15 wizzyrea I just think it's a bit pants is all - of course a person can figure it out. 22:13 wizzyrea which is what's broken. 22:13 wizzyrea it isn't broken, it's just not clear what all is required 22:13 cait just not persuaded it's broken 22:13 cait I am not against documentation 22:13 cait heh 22:13 wizzyrea sorry. 22:13 wizzyrea not a good argument. 22:12 cait wizzyrea: yeah, but who write their own xsl files... 22:09 wizzyrea but it's not as simple as slapping a url in there, which is what the preference seems to indicate. 22:09 jcamins Bye. 22:09 jcamins Well, first class is boarding now. I guess I'd better close up. 22:09 wizzyrea (I guess.) 22:09 wizzyrea which isn't clear. It's easy enough to figure out 22:09 jcamins Right. 22:09 wizzyrea and would never work *without additional editing* 22:08 wizzyrea nope. 22:08 cait yeah, but that's probably not working when external 22:08 wizzyrea but none of that is clear from the syspref. 22:08 wizzyrea which makes sense. 22:08 wizzyrea it's looking for it in the same directory it loads the result from. 22:08 wizzyrea <xsl:import href="MARC21slimUtils.xsl"/> 22:07 jcamins I mean, nifty and convenient side effect, but... 22:07 jcamins I don't think that should work. 22:07 jcamins It's putting the files in the same local directory that I find confusing. 22:07 wizzyrea you won't have to edit them at all. 22:07 wizzyrea but if you are using a path, and you put the files in the same local directory 22:07 wizzyrea even if the files are in the same URL directory. But as you noted, you'd have to edit them, additionally, to point to the correct location *if you are using a URL* 22:06 wizzyrea but it doesn't work with the URL. 22:06 wizzyrea which yes, makes sense. 22:06 wizzyrea I ended up making it work with the utility stylesheet in the same directory with the new results stylesheet 22:04 jcamins So if it _worked_ with the file path, probably that indicates a problem with the way it loads the files. 22:04 jcamins As far as I understand the problem, it should've broken either way. 22:04 jcamins Did you copy the utility stylesheet? 22:03 wizzyrea sorry, never mind I'll just figure it out forget I said anything. 22:03 wizzyrea It didn't break horribly when using a path instead of a URL. 22:02 jcamins You have to change the path to point to utility stylesheets regardless, don't you? 22:01 jcamins So much for the wireless. 21:59 jcamins But it doesn't require any more editing? 21:59 wizzyrea never mind, clearly I'm the moron here. 21:59 wizzyrea that more editing is necessary. 21:59 wizzyrea I would expect that it would be made clear that it works differently if you use a URL vs a path 21:58 jcamins <xsl:import> by definition imports a file from the point of view of the loading stylesheet. 21:58 jcamins I never object to documentation, but I wouldn't expect anything different. 21:58 cait or you build your own result xsl file that doesn't need utils at all 21:57 wizzyrea then that needs to be documented. 21:57 jcamins Otherwise you'd be limited to functionality already in Koha. 21:57 jcamins That is the only way to have it work logically. Your *new* file has to point to the other files it requires. 21:57 cait I changed the path in the file on my remote server 21:57 jcamins No, that's not a hack at all. 21:57 wizzyrea the whole point of the pref 21:57 cait i didn't 21:57 wizzyrea the point is that you don't want to edit the native koha files 21:57 cait hm not sure I agree 21:56 cait easily 21:56 wizzyrea yea but that's a horrid hack. 21:56 cait well you can mak it work 21:56 wizzyrea def not working as intended. 21:56 cait um the path to utils in the results file 21:56 wizzyrea hm then that's not really working then is it. 21:56 cait i made it an URL - not it works 21:56 cait wizzyrea: you hve to fix the path in the utils file 21:55 cait I am trying something 21:55 cait give me second 21:55 jcamins I never tried it. 21:55 cait marc21slimutils 21:55 cait same error 21:54 cait the URL option 21:54 cait doesn't work for me too 21:54 cait ah yep 21:54 wizzyrea but it still failed 21:54 wizzyrea changed the error 21:53 wizzyrea yep 21:53 cait on the same machine? 21:53 wizzyrea putting slimutils there changed it 21:53 cait hm 21:53 wizzyrea http://192.whatever it was/MARC21slim2OPACResults.xsl 21:52 cait what did your url look like? 21:52 wizzyrea because it does work with a path 21:52 wizzyrea right, well we need to remove URL as an option 21:52 cait i just copied the whole xslt directory to my desktop 21:52 wizzyrea no slimutils? 21:51 wizzyrea with just that there? 21:51 cait wizzyrea: a path works for me: /home/katrin/Arbeitsfläche/xslt/MARC21slim2OPACResults.xsl 21:48 cait was marseille 2 years ago and marijana was sitting next to me :) 21:48 cait we tested wth marc21 when it went in 21:48 cait hm no 21:48 wizzyrea probably only works with unimarc or something. 21:48 wizzyrea sorry paste. :P 21:48 wizzyrea at /home/liz/koha-src/koha/C4/XSLT.pm line 220 21:48 wizzyrea xsltParseStylesheetProcess : document is not a stylesheet 21:48 wizzyrea compilation error: file unknown-609d3d0 element html 21:47 cait but maybe, i will try it here 21:47 cait hm no 21:47 cait try only giving it the directory 21:47 wizzyrea it says they do 21:46 wizzyrea it's a URL, maybe url's don't work? 21:46 wizzyrea http://img15.imageshack.us/img15/197/selection085.png 21:46 cait but I haven't used the pref yet 21:46 cait no, I don't think so 21:45 wizzyrea in the preference? 21:45 wizzyrea do you have to point to the slimutils? 21:45 wizzyrea no, but I"ll try it again 21:45 cait didn't work? 21:45 wizzyrea I did 21:44 cait they depend on each other 21:44 cait try copying marc21slimutils into the same place as your results one 21:44 wizzyrea i'm trying to use an external one 21:44 cait ah 21:44 wizzyrea have all three files 21:44 * cait is a bit tired 21:44 cait why would you do what? 21:44 wizzyrea no, because why would I do that. 21:44 wizzyrea ok, but that is not what the syspref says. 21:43 cait or the one for detail, did you try having all 3 files? 21:43 cait the xsl for results is using it 21:43 cait :) 21:43 cait yes you are 21:43 wizzyrea using, even. 21:42 wizzyrea i'm not suing slimutils 21:42 * wizzyrea feels really dense 21:42 wizzyrea what am I doing wrong 21:42 pastebot "wizzyrea" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "err" (4 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/464 21:41 jcamins Yes. 21:41 wizzyrea I should be able to take, say MARC21slim2OPACResults.xsl and make a custom one, and put that in the syspref 21:38 * cait waves to jcamins :) 21:33 wizzyrea that is unexpected 21:33 wizzyrea ! texas! 21:33 * jcamins waves from the San Antonio airport. 21:33 cait hey jcamins 21:33 wizzyrea lol ok 21:33 jcamins Never mind, I was able to answer my question. 21:32 jcamins Anyone used EBSCO A to Z with Koha? 21:15 wizzyrea *nod* 21:15 cait maybe I better try to catch him before he leaves home then :) 21:15 wizzyrea sry :( 21:15 cait ugh 21:14 wizzyrea another hour or so 21:14 cait ah 21:14 wizzyrea not yet :) 21:14 cait eythian: ping? :) 20:46 wizzyrea good evening cait :) 20:46 cait morning wizzyrea :) 20:34 * wizzyrea1 has problems with 0's 20:34 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10000 trivial, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Signed Off , Little typo in intranet-tmpl/prog/en/modules/help/tools/letter.tt: sliip 20:34 wizzyrea1 bug 10000 20:34 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=1000 enhancement, P2, ---, gmcharlt, CLOSED INVALID, installer: drop/suppress entries in mysql if re-launching installer script 20:34 wizzyrea1 bug 1000 20:34 wizzyrea1 but 10000 20:34 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10 normal, P2, ---, chris, CLOSED FIXED, installer.pl doesn't check for mysql connectivity 20:34 wizzyrea1 is anyone else amused that bug 10k is a typo :) 20:23 cait and it might wake up someone who wants to 20:23 cait it looks like an interesting bug 20:23 cait tcohen: maybe ask on the mailing list? 20:17 tcohen can anyone sign on that patch that just comments the stuff out? 20:14 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8773 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Needs Signoff , Add per-instance koha-index-daemon in .deb setup 20:14 tcohen Bug 8773 19:47 rambutan test 19:36 nengard bgkriegel, nope, no difference 19:32 bgkriegel nengard: perhaps (g.borrowernumber=p.guarantorid) 19:24 pastebot "nengard" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "report help: I'm trying to show the guarentor but instead I seem to be showing the guarentee ... ideas on how to fix my report to make it show things right?" (18 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/463 19:23 oleonard "of mine" is correct 19:23 cait wish...of mine? 19:23 oleonard it is confusing that after cataloging an object the page shows an icon representing a movie :| 19:23 cait consolidating those descriptions between result list and detail page is a long term wish of me 19:22 oleonard So the detail page would be more correct if it matched the results page in saying "Type: Visual Material; Type of visual material: realia" 19:21 jcamins oleonard: yes. 19:14 oleonard Is "realia" a subset of "visual material?" 19:14 oleonard That's on the detail page. In search results it says "Visual Material; Type of visual material: realia" 19:14 oleonard When I add a record for a "3-dimensional artifact or naturally occurring object" the catalog says its type is "visual material." Is that correct? 18:57 maximep but there's a few missing perl dependencies :/ 18:53 maximep halcyonCorsair++ 18:52 maximep took a while, but finally got koha working in vagrant thanks to http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Install_Koha_via_Chef_and_Vagrant 18:50 maximep mysql way is always easier :p 18:23 alaquerre thanks! 18:23 alaquerre go it. 18:23 cait and do an update there 18:23 cait I think it's the only way to do it without having to go into mysql 18:23 cait hm that's one way you could do it 18:23 alaquerre We will, but I still need to remove this list... So the best case scenario is to "hack" the user account ? 18:23 cait you can at least forbidding users to create public lists 18:22 cait it might be possible 18:22 cait including a new permission system 18:22 cait but some work has gone into lists 18:22 cait i am not sure if it's possible there 18:22 cait who is the one that created it 18:22 alaquerre is it fixed in 3.10 or 3.12 ? 18:21 cait only the owner can delete lists 18:21 alaquerre cait : how can we do that ? 18:21 cait in 3.8 that's pretty strict 18:21 cait or you need to change the owner 18:21 cait only the user can 18:20 alaquerre Hi All, we are on 3.8.5 and we cannot delete public list ? Is that normal ? Even with superlibrarian permission, the "delete" list do not appear. ( A student create a dummy public list and we really need to delete it ;-) ) 18:00 * magnuse waves to liw 18:00 * liw peeks in 17:48 magnuse it's basicallt "rewrite the scripts in perl and add error checking", so yeah... 17:47 tcohen i think Lars bug is too general and thus unfixable 17:40 magnuse i think maybe catalyst (where eythian works) runs mysql on a separate server, though 17:39 magnuse ah, yeah i have not tried anything else 17:38 tcohen *thats* why it works for you out of the box 17:38 bag yo magnuse 17:38 magnuse hiya bag 17:38 magnuse tcohen: yeah, i have mysql on localhost 17:34 tcohen magnuse: i belive they work like a charm if using a local mysql where the scripts create everything without any major issues 17:33 cait hi tcohen :) 17:33 bag hey cait 17:33 tcohen hi cait 17:33 cait hi bag :) 17:33 cait tcohen: I think he would welcome some help with making it better 17:32 tcohen magnuse, do u use a local MySQL in your production environment? 17:32 bag heya all 17:32 magnuse tcohen: he is the elected Packaging Manager, to be precise 17:30 magnuse tcohen: yup 17:30 tcohen magnuse, is eythian that stuff's leader/maintainer 17:28 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=4876 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, robin, NEW , koha-* scripts are not robust 17:28 magnuse bug 4876 17:27 magnuse and currently not a whole lot of people have contributed to it 17:27 magnuse it's a work in progress 17:26 magnuse at least on my production server 17:26 tcohen several ghosts users are created on erroneus instance creation (for example) 17:26 magnuse hm, i never had any big trouble 17:25 tcohen so I think an average user will easily need to reinstall their box once 17:25 magnuse sure 17:25 tcohen I know how to fix the problems that arise, but error handling is almost nil 17:24 tcohen as a "power user" I feel they are pretty incomplete, and caused me a lot of trouble 17:24 magnuse tcohen: nope, but it would be cool if someone did :-) 17:23 tcohen are u currentl working on packages scripts magnuse? 17:22 magnuse tcohen: there isn't an easy script (yet), but you can edit the configs you need by hand 17:21 cait the thread is still not dead it seems? 17:18 * cait waves 17:16 tcohen no memcached support on .deb installs? 15:40 gaetan_B bye ! 15:32 vfernandes bye kf 15:31 kf bye all :) 15:29 kf ah 15:29 gmcharlt nope, I just got a message stuck in moderation 15:29 kf gmcharlt: is it broken again? 15:25 gmcharlt kf: no 15:25 kf gmcharlt: hm only know about rangi - does the wiki say something? 15:24 kf yay! 15:19 vfernandes kf it worked :D 15:19 gmcharlt anybody here a current admin for the Koha mailing list? 15:14 * magnuse has been spared working with holds, mostly 15:14 magnuse i was mostly thinking about the typo kf found 15:14 wahanui so there is no way we can enable it I think 15:14 magnuse so there! 15:14 wahanui Well, she finally snapped, like we all knew she would. 15:14 druthb wahanui: druthb? 15:14 oleonard magnuse is on to something... Anyone who works on holds for too long is never the same. 15:13 druthb All that cold messes with the brain, imma thinking. 15:13 * druthb worries about magnuse sometimes. 15:13 oleonard :D 15:13 magnuse my precious holdsesss... 15:12 * gmcharlt can't resist -- adds additional signoff to 10000 15:10 kf ... but the help file updates are not in yet 15:09 druthb kf++ 15:09 oleonard kf++ 15:08 kf yay: http://translate.koha-community.org/de/312/ 15:00 kf found another 15:00 kf holds(s) ? :) 14:51 kf quick, we need a sign-off! 14:51 magnuse especially if it is fixed fast :-) 14:51 * magnuse finds a silly typo bug an excellent choice for #10k 14:48 magnuse chris_n: never played around with the labels, sorry 14:46 kf LOL 14:46 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9000 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , misc/cronjobs/rss/rss.pl uses HTP 14:46 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8000 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, henridamien, NEW , Test mode for notices 14:46 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7000 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , show home and holding branch on staff search results 14:46 oleonard ...and Bug 7000, and Bug 8000, and Bug 9000 14:45 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=4000 normal, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Budgets table doesn't show tree view for sub-budgets 14:45 oleonard For those who like bugs with many zeroes, Bug 4000 is still available 14:45 vfernandes but i've never done from 3.0 14:44 kf oleonard: only sad, because I was hoping to make 10.000 a good one, but thought I had more time! 14:44 vfernandes i've done from 3.2 to 3.8 and 3.10 without problems 14:44 kf but to 3.2 something 14:44 kf hm we did 3.1.61 or something I think without problems 14:44 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10000 trivial, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Needs Signoff , Little typo in intranet-tmpl/prog/en/modules/help/tools/letter.tt: sliip 14:44 * oleonard is inordinately pleased to have been able to submit a fix bug 10000 14:43 vfernandes updating from 3.0 to 3.10 besides of changing the items is trivial? 14:43 kf ;) 14:43 kf oleonard++ for fixing 10.000 bugs... 14:41 kf fingers crossed 14:41 vfernandes i'm gonna try again with the script change 14:41 vfernandes the script is correct only for old mysql versions 14:40 kf vfernandes: sounds like we shoudl fix that :) 14:35 vfernandes the script update22to30.pl tries to change the tables with "TYPE=innobd" but should be "ENGINE=innobd" 14:34 vfernandes kf I found out my problem 14:31 chris_n and don't have the time atm to load up a unimarc db and test :( 14:31 chris_n my suspicion is corrupted data, but I'm not sure 14:30 kf chris_n: we are marc21 ingermany, but also not using the lables modules yet :( 14:30 chris_n kf: do you have anyone using the label creator w/unimarc? 14:28 oleonard Hopefully it's just bad logic in the template, I'll do more checking 14:27 kf because that would be bad 14:27 kf ist here something in the logs indicating it actually did something? like refund the last borrower of the item? 14:27 kf edge case. I would say in that case it shoudl hopefully not go anywhere. 14:27 kf oleonard: hmmm 14:27 oleonard kf: But what if I mark a book lost which is not checked out? When I check it in Koha still says "A refund has been applied to the borrowing patron's account" 14:27 kf I didn't do that on purpose... but it's really a silly bug for 10000 14:26 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10000 trivial, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, NEW , Little typo in intranet-tmpl/prog/en/modules/help/tools/letter.tt: sliip 14:26 kf bug 10000 14:26 kf lol 14:26 kf oleonard: once they are lost, they are no longer checked out 14:26 kf oleonard: it can#t be checked out, as lost items are removed from the patron account 14:25 kf oleonard: checked out the book, marked it overdue = lost was added to the account, then I paid that and checked the book in, and got a refund 14:25 oleonard kf: A refund was being applied somewhere even if the item was not checked out? 14:25 huginn chris_n: The operation succeeded. 14:25 kf oleonard: it was for me when testing yesterday 14:25 chris_n @later tell paul_p have you noted any problems doing labels w/unimarc records? 14:24 wahanui oleonard: I forgot khall 14:24 oleonard wahanui: forget khall 14:24 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9900 blocker, P5 - low, ---, kyle.m.hall, Pushed to Master , Plugins should not be enabled by default 14:24 chris_n kf, paul_p, magnus: have you noted any problems doing labels with unimarc/normarc records? 14:24 wahanui i think khall is working on bug 9900 14:24 oleonard khall? 14:24 oleonard Is a refund really being applied somewhere? 14:23 oleonard Check in of lost items show says "A refund has been applied to the borrowing patron's account." even if the item was not checked out. 14:23 kf vfernandes: sorry, never worked with koha pre 3.0 :( 14:22 vfernandes update22to30.pl gives me errors when updating the tables 14:22 vfernandes InnoDB 14:22 vfernandes i've checked the database and all tables are MyISAM when should be InnoBD 14:21 vfernandes Can't create table 'lnec.X' (errno: 150) 14:20 vfernandes i'm checking but ive got some problems when running installer/data/mysql/updatedatabase.pl 14:20 kf vfernandes: maybe check the wiki 14:20 vfernandes can anyone help me with koha 2.2.8 upgrade to 3.0 14:20 vfernandes hi :) 14:11 kf it's monday. 14:10 * oleonard added a comment to 9860 explaining further 14:10 kf oleonard: hm not sure I can follow that line of thought without a diagram 14:07 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9397 trivial, P5 - low, ---, agent.075, Pushed to Master , Error Messages hard to find for Visually Impaired Users (Accessibility) [Returning Items] 14:07 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9860 normal, P4, ---, koha-bugs, Needs Signoff , Incorrect box heading 'Cannot check in' when a late document is returned 14:07 oleonard Bug 9860 is caused by Bug 9397, and a better fix than the patch on 9860 would be to revert 9397 14:05 kf could it be we are missing algorithm/checkdigits somehow? 14:05 kf hm 13:54 oleonard I guess it doesn't show if the return is also triggering a transfer 13:46 kf there were about 4 lines 13:46 kf I thought it still did, but it did also tell me that it refunded something yesterday 13:46 kf hm 13:45 oleonard Hm, when did check-in stop warning that items were "lost, now found?" 13:38 kf khall++ 13:35 kf i am translating and was puzzled for a moment 13:29 oleonard ? 13:28 kf Maximum Koha Version ? 13:22 kf me too 13:21 oleonard That's okay, I hope that solves the errors. 13:21 kf sorry I missed that 13:21 kf oleonard: aaah no then 13:21 kf and I had separate branches for each created from master - would have been an unlikely accident 13:21 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9905 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Failed QA , Use DataTables on calendar page 13:21 oleonard Bug 9905 depends on Bug 9887 13:20 kf oleonard: which one with which other? 13:20 kf sec 13:18 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9887 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Failed QA , Use DataTables on circulation page 13:18 oleonard kf: Did you test that bug with Bug 9887 applied? 13:10 kf repeating I mean? maybe it got left when the repeated one was deleted? 13:10 kf what makes me wonder... why do I have an exception but not regular closing days? 13:07 oleonard Okay, I'll try to reproduce with that data 13:04 kf as I don#t enter Christmas and the like myself, I think it is sample data plus some manually entered 13:04 kf so you could see if there was soemthign weird about the holidays 13:04 kf that's why I took it 13:03 kf oleonard: see the screenshot :) 13:01 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9905 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Failed QA , Use DataTables on calendar page 13:00 oleonard kf: Regarding Bug 9905, did the calendar for your logged-in library have any holidays? 12:52 kf khall++ :) 12:52 kf oleonard++ 12:49 jcamins Wonder why it was so fast. 12:49 jcamins Huh. 12:49 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8770 blocker, P5 - low, ---, kyle.m.hall, Pushed to Master , amount does not equal amountoutstanding on a fine with no payments or credits 12:49 jenkins_koha Kyle M Hall: Bug 8770 - amount does not equal amountoutstanding on a fine with no payments or credits 12:49 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.12.x build #2: SUCCESS in 39 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.12.x/2/ 12:42 kf hope you can reproduce the other problems 12:41 kf countdown is running, I see :) 12:41 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9463 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Failed QA , Use DataTables on patron sent notices page 12:41 * oleonard prepares another revision for Bug 9463 12:41 oleonard I'll be around for 7.5 hours or so kf :) 12:40 mib_futn9s Hello #koha 12:40 alohabot Hi mib_futn9s, Welcome to #koha. Feel free to use the '/nick yourname' command to choose a different name. alohabot, wahanui, and huginn are bots. If you need any help, just ask - there's usually someone around to help :) 12:40 kf elsemaybe leave a note on the bug for me and I can try to test it when I get home 12:40 kf Will you be around this late afternoon? not sure how big our time difference is 12:40 kf then turned it back - and it was broken again 12:39 kf what I did was turn the pref to US format - and it worked right 12:39 kf and I didn't yesterday 12:39 oleonard It's not a very likely problem 12:39 kf but that I can't check :( 12:39 kf hm good question 12:39 oleonard ...since the table is being sorted on the data in the title attribute. 12:39 oleonard I'm curious whether the dates you see in the table match the dates you see when you hover your mouse over each cell with a date in it 12:38 kf but tell me what you want me to check - maybe I already tried yesterday 12:38 kf oleonard: not in the same installation I am afraid :( 12:37 kf jcamins: run! 12:36 drojf jcamins: lol 12:36 jcamins drojf: done with your thesis? Hooray! 12:30 oleonard kf: Do you have a moment to check something? 12:30 oleonard kf: I'm not able to reproduce your error with circulation sorting 12:27 drojf happy birthday gaetan_B (all the cool languages were taken) 12:25 * drojf whistles »ding dong the witch is dead« 12:24 jcamins kf: very close! 12:23 kf jcamins: but I was close! 12:23 gaetan_B धनà¥à¤¯à¤µà¤¾à¤¦ oleonard, kf :) ! 12:10 jenkins_koha Starting build #2 for job Koha_3.12.x (previous build: SUCCESS) 12:08 jcamins :) 12:08 jcamins Ð’Ñего хорошего Ñ Ð´Ð½ÐµÐ¼ Ñ€Ð¾Ð¶Ð´ÐµÐ½Ð¸Ñ 12:07 * kf felt inspired by oleonard 12:07 kf вÑего хорошего Ñ Ð´Ð¸Ñ‘Ð¼ Ñ€Ð¾Ð¶Ð´ÐµÐ¸ÑŒÑ 12:06 kf in russian... but I typed that from memory, so it's probably wrong :) 12:06 kf hm maybe вÑево хорошего Ñ Ð´Ð¸Ñ‘Ð¼ Ñ€Ð¾Ð¶Ð´ÐµÐ¸ÑŒÑ 12:01 oleonard VÅ¡echno nejlepÅ¡Ã k narozeninám, gaetan_B 11:59 kf hi oleonard :) 11:58 oleonard Hi #koha 11:10 magnuse drojf++ 11:09 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9591 blocker, P3, ---, chris, Signed Off , Set Library changes after viewing Holds Queue >> reserves item 11:09 drojf i signed off on bug 9591. if some QA person is bored… ;) 10:59 bgkriegel ok 10:59 kf so maybe we can figure out what's going wrong 10:59 kf please add all your findings to the bug 10:56 bgkriegel kf:I have the same problem,but only with one branch. It's weird 10:54 drojf yes it does 10:54 kf and it needs to be fixed 10:54 kf but I agree 10:54 kf maybe you are closer to the truth than we were 10:54 kf liz couldn't always reprodcuce it 10:54 drojf something is fishy 10:53 drojf hm somehow related, but that is not it. i think i chose no specific item for the one that is not showing up, i chose a specific item for the one that works though. 10:52 kf liz wanted to take a look 10:52 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9950 critical, P3, ---, liz, NEW , Some holds not showing up in holds queue - even though they are supposed to 10:52 kf bug 9950 10:51 kf could that be it? 10:51 drojf i can see it in the patron's details though 10:51 kf drojf: I filed a bug for some weird behaviour with item level holds 10:51 drojf i don't even see it when i search all branches. funny 10:51 kf hm 10:50 drojf is it possible that holds on items from one branch, placed by a patron from another branch, do not show up in the holds queue at all? i can see another one that i just placed with same patron/branch 10:36 kf night rangi 10:36 drojf good night rangi 10:35 drojf ah! then i guess i'll have a look or just wait a little. i can see another one in the list. thanks! 10:35 * rangi goes to sleep 10:34 rangi that holds queue only gets updated by the cronjob 10:34 rangi do you have the cronjob running? 10:30 drojf i see my hold neither in the list for the branch it belongs to nor in the one for the patron that placed the hold :/ 10:29 kf not necessarily atrons 10:29 kf probably 10:29 kf i think for items of that branch 10:28 kf not sue 10:27 drojf does the holds queue for a library show the holds _for patrons_ of that branch or _for items_ of that branch? 10:15 kf yep it does 10:14 kf that would be cool, yes 10:14 drojf that sounds really weird 10:14 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9591 blocker, P3, ---, chris, Needs Signoff , Set Library changes after viewing Holds Queue >> reserves item 10:14 wahanui i heard bug 9591 was a weird one 10:14 kf bug 9591 10:13 drojf well, while that vm is running, if nobody is doing 9591 already i can try that too 10:10 rangi yay! 10:09 kf awesome :) 10:09 drojf ok, that was _really_ easy to test ;) and it works \o/ 09:58 kf drojf++ 09:57 rangi thanks drojf 09:57 rangi yay! 09:57 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9933 blocker, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Needs Signoff , Changing/editing circulation rules for specific library affects all libraries 09:57 drojf i'll test bug 9933 09:55 rangi those are the most annoying ones 09:55 rangi yep and trivial to fix after spotting the problem 09:54 magnuse weird_and_tricky_to_spot-- 09:27 rangi it was weird, was tricky to spot 09:26 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9591 blocker, P3, ---, chris, Needs Signoff , Set Library changes after viewing Holds Queue >> reserves item 09:26 wahanui bug 9591 is a weird one 09:26 rangi bug 9591 09:26 rangi and another blocker 09:19 kf or teach it to be able to work with concatenation and replace wth %s 09:16 kf I guess best would be rephrasing 09:16 kf the strings 09:16 kf you know what's worse? it was me changing the templates in that way, because before they wouldn't be picked up at all 09:16 rangi magnuse: yay! 09:16 rangi :) 09:15 kf I do now too :) 09:14 rangi i know the rest of the sentence 09:14 magnuse half a day on 3.10.4 and no complaints yet - yay! 09:13 kf *grump* 09:12 kf I have no idea what the rest of the sentence is and it probably still wouldn't work with sane grammar 09:12 kf Are you sure you want to delete the < this is not translatable in a good way 09:12 kf meh 09:11 kf rangi++ 08:53 davidnind Hi rangi 08:53 gaetan_B :) 08:53 rangi gaetan_B: ahh, safe travels 08:52 rangi hiya davidnind 08:52 gaetan_B rangi: something like 9 hours 08:51 rangi gaetan_B: how long does it take to get to kurdistan? 08:51 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9933 blocker, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Needs Signoff , Changing/editing circulation rules for specific library affects all libraries 08:51 rangi bug 9933 08:51 rangi its super easy! 08:51 rangi anyone want to sign off a blocker? 08:49 gaetan_B i am sure it's already a nice step forward, i'll see this with the kurdish team soon 08:48 kf and it's a good starting point for more refinements .) 08:48 kf gaetan_B: it probably still needs some more work, but the opac didn't look too bad when I tested it 08:48 magnuse gratulerer med dagen, gaetan_B 08:48 gaetan_B and i even got a gift from the community with bz 8061, this is really nice!! 08:47 gaetan_B dankeschön :) 08:47 kf Alles Gute zum Geburtstag! 08:47 gaetan_B it is :) 08:46 rangi it is now :) 08:46 kf so it is? 08:45 * gaetan_B blushes 08:45 kf rangi: bad testing on my part :( 08:45 kf gaetan_B: is it today? 08:44 rangi that one 08:44 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=4354 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , Cannot edit existing issuing rules 08:43 rangi bug 4354 08:43 rangi hmm 08:43 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=4534 normal, PATCH-Sent (DO NOT USE), ---, oleonard, CLOSED FIXED, Box for SQL not visible in "Create Report from SQL" 08:43 rangi bug 4534 08:43 gaetan_B this is great really, i am so happy to see this has happened ! 08:43 gaetan_B kf: thanks, that will be my birthday present then :) 08:42 kf gaetan_B: I was thinking of you :) 08:42 rangi should make 3.12 easier for our rtl friends :) 08:42 gaetan_B oh wow bz 8061 got pushed over the week end ! nice job kf, Chris, Karam and Jared :) 08:41 kf rangi++ 08:40 rangi <input type="hidden" name="branch" value=""/> 08:40 rangi <input type="hidden" name="op" value="add" /> 08:40 rangi <form method="post" action="/cgi-bin/koha/admin/smart-rules.pl"> 08:40 rangi first is null 08:40 rangi branch is set twice 08:40 rangi ah ha 08:38 kf weird 08:37 rangi nope, doesnt seem to be 08:37 rangi and why you cant ever change any rule except for all libraries 08:37 kf is that a new line? 08:37 kf i can totally imagine 08:36 rangi thats the problem line tho 08:36 kf mine too 08:36 rangi my $branch = $input->param('branch') || ( C4::Branch::onlymine() ? ( C4::Branch::mybranch() || '*' ) : '*' ); 08:36 rangi and this line is making my head hurt 08:36 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9933 blocker, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, ASSIGNED , Changing/editing circulation rules for specific library affects all libraries 08:36 * rangi is working on a fix for bug 9933 08:17 rangi can you tell me which of those should win in fixing the conflict 08:17 rangi kf ^^ 08:17 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9414 major, P5 - low, ---, magnus, Needs Signoff , Fix sample letters for German and Norwegian 08:17 pastebot "rangi" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "bug 9414" (5 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/462 07:49 drojf hi kf 07:48 kf itis 07:48 drojf oh the main list is alive again 07:48 drojf hi rangi 07:47 rangi hi drojf 07:47 drojf good morning #koha 07:42 rangi its better than it was, there was a total outdoor ban, it was getting close to extreme 07:39 magnuse taking_shorter_showers-- ;-) 07:38 magnuse ata marie rangi 07:29 rangi and hi all 07:29 rangi yay http://www.gw.govt.nz/water-supply-situation-update 07:27 christophe_c hello #koha 07:22 gaetan_B hello 07:19 samuel hi everybody 07:17 kf hi magnuse :) 07:15 magnuse well hello there kf! 07:15 kf morning #koha 06:57 alex_a hello 06:41 reiveune :) 06:41 mtj hi reiveune 06:40 magnuse bonjour reiveune 06:40 reiveune hello 06:40 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Marseille, France is 9.0°C (8:30 AM CEST on April 08, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 82%. Dew Point: 6.0°C. Pressure: 29.77 in 1008 hPa (Steady). 06:40 magnuse @wunder marseille 06:40 cait bbl 06:39 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is -3.0°C (8:20 AM CEST on April 08, 2013). Conditions: Light Snow Showers. Humidity: 93%. Dew Point: -4.0°C. Windchill: -8.0°C. Pressure: 29.86 in 1011 hPa (Steady). 06:39 magnuse @wunder boo 06:39 huginn cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is -0.2°C (8:35 AM CEST on April 08, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 93%. Dew Point: -1.0°C. Windchill: 0.0°C. Pressure: 29.74 in 1007 hPa (Falling). 06:39 cait @wunder Konstanz 06:39 murali i will be on that work and if i get any doubts will ask u people 06:39 murali for evry one 06:39 murali ok thanq so much............... 06:39 cait and what you can't find you can ask 06:38 cait look through it 06:38 cait murali: same link 06:37 murali can you also please provide a tutorial to change the functionalities too 06:36 murali ok thanq......... 06:36 cait it will also point out how to add content to the opac and which preferences oyu can use to change the layout 06:35 cait and make use of the features 06:35 cait it will help you to configure koha 06:35 murali does this documentation help me how to customize it? 06:35 murali actually i have installed it on my server......... 06:34 wahanui i heard manual was at http://www.koha-community.org/documentation 06:34 cait manual? 06:33 cait murali: a good starting point is here 06:33 mtj hi murali, and welcome :) 06:33 murali thanks in advance 06:33 murali can anyone please help me 06:33 murali i want to customize it to our library 06:32 murali hello everyone....... I am new to Koha....... 06:32 mtj no no… everything is right with it :) 06:32 cait mtj: hope there is nothing wrong with it? 06:32 huginn 04Bug 8378: major, P5 - low, ---, dpavlin, Pushed to Stable , <fine> syntax not working on overdues anymore 06:32 mtj http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8378 06:32 cait ah yes 06:31 magnuse ah right 06:31 * mtj tickles huginn 06:31 mtj hmm, its huginn that does the bugs, yeah? 06:30 magnuse bug 8378 06:30 wahanui cait? 06:30 cait wahanui? 06:30 cait bug 8378 06:30 cait hi mtj 06:29 mtj just reading bug 8378 06:29 magnuse hiya mtj 06:29 mtj kia ora magnuse and cait 06:14 not_cait ;) 06:14 magnuse KIA ORA not_cait! 06:12 not_cait morning magnuse :) 06:11 * magnuse waves 05:21 not_cait yep 05:21 dcook So that's the secret to having a tidy apartment 05:21 dcook hehe 05:20 not_cait avoiding learning math... so my apartment is very tidy now 05:20 not_cait yep 05:19 dcook Good morning so far? 05:19 dcook hey ya not_cait 05:19 not_cait hi dcook 05:17 dcook mhm 05:17 not_cait hm 04:49 wizzyrea (and by improve, I mean, for those of you for whom it has started out kind of crap.) 04:49 not_cait good to know 04:48 wizzyrea today has actually felt alright :) I think it will improve. 04:47 not_cait so how is monday? 04:42 not_cait in part 04:42 eythian is it all terrible? 04:37 * not_cait should stop watch news in the morning :( 04:34 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8770 blocker, P5 - low, ---, kyle.m.hall, Passed QA , amount does not equal amountoutstanding on a fine with no payments or credits 04:34 jenkins_koha Kyle M Hall: Bug 8770 - amount does not equal amountoutstanding on a fine with no payments or credits 04:34 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #1138: SUCCESS in 1 hr 9 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/1138/ 04:33 wizzyrea ^^^^^^^^ what he said 04:29 eythian that's no excuse for being up so much before it 04:29 * not_cait sighs 04:28 eythian Germany is the among the most censored countries in the world thanks to GEMA 04:25 not_cait you are aware that it is my normal get up time by now? 04:24 wizzyrea how about that one 04:24 rangi GEMA its redonkulous 04:24 wizzyrea http://grooveshark.com/s/The+Rainbow+Connection/4DKYEp?src=5 04:24 not_cait you can ask rangi how he calls it 04:24 wizzyrea ok 04:24 wizzyrea youtube or ... something else that I'm not aware of. 04:23 not_cait copyright 04:23 wizzyrea wait, for what reason? 04:23 wizzyrea hrmph. 04:23 not_cait noone in germany can 04:23 wizzyrea not in your country? 04:23 wizzyrea ! why~ 04:23 not_cait well... your evil plan failed... I can't watch this 04:23 * wizzyrea should have lead with that one. 04:21 wizzyrea you won't be after listening to this. 04:20 wizzyrea http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nluv2yWP1JM 04:20 not_cait and soft kitty is only for when I am sick! 04:19 * not_cait is still awake 03:54 wizzyrea http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bUgmzUV02NY 03:53 not_cait lol that is mean 03:53 wizzyrea sorry not_cait 03:53 * wizzyrea sings cait a soothing lullaby 03:52 wizzyrea smarties. 03:51 * cait pretends to go back to bed 03:51 cait *rolleyes* 03:51 dcook 5:48am? 03:51 dcook O_O 03:51 * dcook used to work with a girl named Yuu :p 03:51 * cait looks behind her if there is someone names you 03:50 wizzyrea YOU. 03:49 cait whom are you talkin with? 03:49 cait lol 03:45 wizzyrea it is far too early for you. 03:44 wizzyrea no, back to bed with you 03:38 wizzyrea "oh hey, i'm funny!" 03:38 wizzyrea hah, always funny when you see a message that you forgot you wrote. 03:33 thanhthuy thanks! 03:30 eythian ah, the koha list has started to move 03:29 jcamins gmcharlt: thanks. 03:26 jenkins_koha Starting build #1138 for job Koha_master (previous build: FIXED) 03:25 rangi using vmware or some other tool 03:25 rangi if you run it as a virtual machine yes 03:24 thanhthuy can I run the koha sever that use to manage information at the library on windows server 2003 03:24 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Merge remote branch 'origin/new/bug_8770' <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=596f7a740eb7bb37cd727181f2b6894fefbacf9d> / Bug 8770 - amount does not equal amountoutstanding on a fine with no payments or... <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=93f60536947c06c325ec010c5e6dd6c9dd24ca79> 03:23 huginn gmcharlt: The operation succeeded. 03:23 gmcharlt @later tell jcamins I've started testing and pushing QAed bugfixes to master for you to pick for 3.12 03:14 eythian not ideal 03:14 eythian heh 03:14 mtj i think i may have had alohabot and tweetbot using the same sqllite3 file, oops 03:13 rangi heh 03:10 mtj i just clicked… its been a while since ive seen a tweet on #koha 03:03 rangi ah right 03:03 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7919 new feature, P1 - high, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , Display of values depending on the connexion library (authorised values, patron categories, extended attributes) 03:03 wahanui bug 7919 is, like, an example 03:03 eythian rangi: bug 7919 03:01 rangi i wonder what that was about 02:58 wizzyrea hehehehehe\ 02:58 huginn gmcharlt: Quote #229: "rangi: relax, I signed it off :)" (added by wizzyrea at 08:59 PM, January 02, 2013) 02:58 gmcharlt @quote random 02:54 wizzyrea right, thanhthuy - which did you mean, can you run the koha server on windows server 2003, or "can I use the web interface on windows server 2003" 02:53 rangi (as a server that is, the client is of course just a web browser) 02:49 wizzyrea but see above. 02:48 wizzyrea you can in a virtual machine. 02:48 eythian Koha really only works on Linux. 02:48 thanhthuy Can I set up Koha on Window server 2003? 02:47 thanhthuy Excuseme! 01:58 dcook I can't imagine jcamins saying yippie :p 01:58 dcook For a minute, I thought that read "jcamins: Yippie, build fixed!" 01:58 wahanui o/ '`'`'`'`'`'`'`'` 01:58 wizzyrea confetti 01:57 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #1137: FIXED in 1 hr 10 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/1137/ 01:57 jenkins_koha Yippie, build fixed! 00:55 eythian jcamins: ah :) 00:53 * thd goes to sleep for the first time in three days. 00:49 thd Thanks rangi 00:48 thd I was banned a few years ago after a server outage resulted in bounces. 00:48 * jcamins looks at this as a blessing: the over-long version number discussion is only going on on one mailing list. 00:48 thd As long as it is not just me I am more reassured. 00:47 rangi yes, working on finding out why, its probably all buffered somewhere 00:47 jenkins_koha Starting build #1137 for job Koha_master (previous build: UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #1135 7 hr 7 min ago) 00:46 jenkins_koha jcamins: job Koha_master build scheduled now 00:46 jcamins !jenkins build Koha_master now 00:46 thd Do you mean no one has mail? 00:46 thd asked? 00:46 rangi yep, ive asked 00:45 thd rangi: I have no mail from the Koha list this month at kohalist AT agogme.com 00:44 rangi for some definition yes 00:44 thd rangi: Are you present? 00:39 CanuckPaul c u l8er - best - paul 00:39 jcamins eythian: "Java port" 00:39 wizzyrea "gotta jet, dinner!" 00:38 wizzyrea think of it like exiting a room full of friends 00:38 wizzyrea ah, just say "later!" and log :) 00:38 CanuckPaul What's the etiquette for gracefully quitting? Now coming up supper time 00:37 CanuckPaul We get a lot of "lake effect" - either too much or none 00:36 dcook Being a (mid-)Westerner, we used to tease Easterners (aside from Maritimers, of course) about winter 00:36 dcook Mustn't be too bad ;) 00:33 CanuckPaul Yup -- "The County" 00:32 dcook Are you in Picton, CanuckPaul? 00:32 wizzyrea too much or too little in weird places. 00:32 wizzyrea yea, the moisture is all topsy turvy 00:31 dcook wizzyrea: :( 00:29 CanuckPaul Neat - *bold* 00:29 CanuckPaul *melting* 00:29 CanuckPaul Ours is meting now - and the first crocusses (croci?) are beginning to sprout 00:28 wizzyrea worst drought in 100 years here 00:28 dcook I think it's still snowing in Saskatchewan 00:28 dcook I hear it's been a rather bizarre winter! 00:27 CanuckPaul At least you're missing the snow! 00:27 dcook CanuckPaul: This is the CanuckDavid who just happens to live and work down under ;). Haven't used MarcEdit in a while 00:26 CanuckPaul Love to, but rarely travel these days -- too long in the tooth 00:25 wizzyrea CanuckPaul: are you going to KohaCon? 00:25 wizzyrea ah it'll be 2nd nature soon enough :) 00:25 * CanuckPaul I'll have to get used to all this 00:24 CanuckPaul Is that David fro down-under (sometimes on MarcEdit? 00:22 * wizzyrea makes a sandwich 00:22 * dcook waves to CanuckPaul 00:22 wizzyrea turns into 00:22 wizzyrea like /me makes a sandwich 00:22 wizzyrea and then the thing you do 00:22 wizzyrea you can do it by typing /me 00:22 wizzyrea it's an action, more or less 00:22 CanuckPaul what do italics mean? 00:22 * wizzyrea thought it might be you 00:21 CanuckPaul a wild guess 00:21 wizzyrea you found me out. 00:21 wizzyrea :) 00:21 CanuckPaul Hi - is that Liz - paul.a here (absolutely new to IRC) 00:19 wizzyrea hi CanuckPaul 00:17 eythian jcamins: what'd I do?