Time Nick Message 06:56 * magnuse waves, then wanders off to have breakfast, threatening to be back later 06:58 cait heh 07:08 cait morning #koha 08:18 * magnus waves from the laptop 08:19 rangi hi magnus 08:19 magnus hiya rangi 08:20 magnus rangi: 3.10.4 should be ready for production by now, right? 08:21 rangi yep 08:21 rangi i have a couple of publics running 3.10.3 08:21 rangi one testing 3.10.4 now 08:21 magnus yay 08:22 magnus i usually let my customers test new major versions with real data etc, but the wait has been so long now, i'll just upgrade 08:23 magnus and then let them test 3.12 beta if they want to 08:24 rangi sounds good 08:27 cait heya magnuse :) 08:27 * cait is creating a mess in bugzilla this morning :) 08:28 cait please check I made no mistake! 08:28 cait heh wrong window :) 08:29 magnus :-) 08:32 cait magnus: could I interest you in a sign off of 9980? 08:32 cait it's quick to test 08:32 magnus bug 9980 08:32 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9980 blocker, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Needs Signoff , Anonymous searches in the OPAC entirely broken 08:32 magnus yes, after i upgrade :-) 08:38 rangi gah 08:38 rangi i wish this whole numbering thing hadnt been brought up, now we are relitigating 6 monthly releases ... lets derail the entire process and not do any work, just talk about it 08:45 magnus gah! 08:46 * magnus tends to think small changes often are better than big changes seldom 08:48 rangi yeah i think big ones are much more error prone and things all get left to the end 08:49 magnus yup 08:49 magnus and the list of changes for a 6 months-in-the-making release is already huge 08:50 magnus a 12 month one would be ginormous 08:50 rangi i just think back to 3.0.0 and 3.2.0 08:50 rangi and what a nightmare they were to get released 08:50 cait yep 08:50 cait exactly what I am trying to write up right now 08:50 cait to send to the list :) 08:50 magnus cait++ 08:51 rangi right these all seem to work, and dont cause a problem 08:52 rangi karam might like to do a patch for ccsr next if he wanted 08:52 cait and imagine the complains with yearly releases if a development misses the deadline... 08:52 magnus ooh 7 bugs to go before we reach 10k 08:52 cait oooh now you spotted it hehe 08:52 cait the race is on :) 09:15 * magnuse kicks off the upgrade 09:17 * cait crosses fingers 09:17 * magnuse too :-) 09:27 * cait submitted bug 9994 09:27 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9994 normal, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Changing 'rows per page' on saved sql reports doesn't work with runtime parameters 09:29 magnuse ...and it's done 09:29 cait :) 09:29 cait isn't that the moments where you really love Koha? 09:29 cait when a major updates performs just nicely? 09:30 magnuse yup! 09:30 magnuse not to mention the packages! 09:31 magnuse well, i still have to install norwegian and swedish 09:31 magnuse which will waste a lot of time moving tiny_mce files around 09:31 magnuse hooray for bug 9172 09:31 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9172 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Passed QA , Move TinyMCE library outside of language-specific directory 09:31 * cait installs arabic 09:32 cait magnuse: ah, so there is still somthing you have to do after installing the packages currently? 09:33 magnuse yeah, run the translate script 09:33 magnuse because i never got around to helping eythian move his i18n work on the packages forward 09:33 cait ah, I just ran into the problem karam talked about .. the arabic po files in master are not good 09:35 magnuse norwegian is done 09:36 magnuse well, they will probably be updated soonish? 09:36 cait help files are not all in yet 09:36 cait we need some more sign-offs on those 09:40 magnuse swedish is done 09:41 magnuse the moment of truth: running my little test::www::mech script... 09:43 magnuse gah, have to rebuild all the zebras 09:43 * cait imagines magnuse doing zebra puzzles 09:43 cait *giggles* 09:44 magnuse :-) 09:45 cait too many legs! 09:49 cait [off] http://librarygeekgirl.de/pics/results_rtl.png 09:52 magnuse well, this is going to take some time... 09:53 cait [off] http://librarygeekgirl.de/pics/detail_rtl.png 09:54 magnuse legs? 09:54 magnuse ( Holdings ( 5 09:54 magnuse that's not good... 09:55 cait zebra legs 09:55 magnuse ah 09:55 cait magnuse: yeah not perfect, but that happens 09:55 cait probably would be a bit better if holdings was translated 09:56 magnuse yeah 09:56 cait i used po fiels from 3.8 09:56 cait as the ones in master have some bugs 09:56 magnuse ah 09:56 cait I think overall that looks pretty good 09:58 * magnuse tries to figure out what the major enh in 3.10 were 09:59 rangi release notes should have it 10:00 magnuse yup, looking at that now 10:00 magnuse there is a 48 page pdf version... :-) 10:00 rangi ah thats right 10:01 magnuse the new "new feature/enh" categories will be awesome, if they work out 10:02 rangi yep 10:02 cait i don't envy jared writing the notes :) 10:02 cait i mean it#s easier now with the scripts 10:02 cait but we change a log. 10:02 cait lot 10:03 rangi yep 10:03 cait but it#s also cool we do :) 10:07 rangi 771 patches, from 59 developers and still a month to go 10:08 cait ugh 10:08 cait my koha won't switch back to english 10:08 magnuse rangi: awesom! 10:08 magnuse english? who needs it! 10:08 cait or arabic 10:09 cait magnuse: could you check switching languages works for you on master some time? 10:10 cait ah ok 10:10 cait guess my german templates were to balme 10:13 drojf good day #koha 10:14 cait hi drojf 10:14 drojf hi cait 10:15 drojf did anyone else just get a random mail for some "open source crowdfunding site"? 10:15 cait hm 10:16 rangi not me 10:16 cait me neither 10:18 drojf weird 10:19 cait you got an exclusive random mail! 10:19 magnuse moin drojf 10:20 drojf cait: yay, i'm special :D 10:20 drojf hei magnuse 10:20 cait not going to argue 10:21 drojf :P 10:38 drojf What fees does <site> charge? The only fees charged by <site> are 10% of the total feature funding amount after the full funding amount has been reached. 10:38 drojf heh. »only« 10:39 magnuse hey, it could have been 90! 10:39 drojf true! 10:40 magnuse cait: looking at bug 9980 now 10:40 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9980 blocker, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Needs Signoff , Anonymous searches in the OPAC entirely broken 10:49 cait thx :) 10:49 cait 10... how modest 10:50 magnuse cait: i can't seem to reproduce the problem... 10:51 magnuse i'm not logged in, but i can search just fine 10:52 cait it didn't work for me 10:52 cait check the detail page 10:52 cait result was good, detail broken 10:52 magnuse ah 10:53 magnuse nope, that looks good too 10:53 cait weird 10:53 magnuse yup 10:53 cait it is def exploding for me when not logged in 10:56 magnuse looks good to me 10:57 cait log in and log out again? 10:57 cait patch not applied? 10:57 magnuse i'm on normarc, but that shouldn't matter, as far as i can tell from the bug report 10:57 magnuse yeah, did log in and out 10:57 magnuse patch not applied 10:57 cait hm 10:57 cait master? 10:57 wahanui hmmm... master is the development branch of koha 10:57 magnuse master 10:58 magnuse was there something about this only working with !xslt? 10:58 cait hm i have xslt 10:58 cait oh 10:58 cait and I didn#t activate the feature 10:59 magnuse ah, without xslt i get the error both for search result and detail 10:59 cait interesting 10:59 wahanui rumour has it interesting is sometimes good and sometimes bad 10:59 cait :) 11:01 magnuse i have: HighlightOwnItemsOnOPAC = Don't emphasize 11:01 cait i think I probably have normal display set somwwhere 11:02 magnuse HighlightOwnItemsOnOPAC does not affect the error for me 11:13 magnuse cait: bug 9980 is signed off 11:13 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9980 blocker, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Signed Off , Anonymous searches in the OPAC entirely broken 11:13 cait magnuse++ 11:14 cait and special thx for the test plan :) 11:14 magnuse and i'm on the dashboard again - woohoo! :-) 11:14 cait yay :) 11:15 magnuse ooh, jonathan has the lead in the qa list! 11:15 cait trying to influence me? 11:17 magnuse huh, me? nooo... 11:46 magnuse WHAT? why am i seeing bug 9256 on 3.10.4?!? 11:46 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9256 critical, P5 - low, ---, magnus, RESOLVED FIXED, Search is broken for 3.10 package-installs when marcflavour != marc21 12:01 magnuse ah, because i only fixed it for new instances, of course, not upgraded ones... 12:51 jcamins Heh. One feature release every year. 12:52 jcamins That would rather cut down on the pool of prospective RMs. 12:55 jcamins And would almost certainly result in demands for drastically reduced standards. 12:56 drojf how does that "LTS" thing come up all the time? 12:57 drojf we could have a release that is supported for four years and do feature releases every four years ;) 12:57 jcamins drojf: we have a troll who thinks that he can get us to do more work for free if he compares us to Ubuntu. 12:57 jcamins drojf: we did that for 3.0/3.2. 12:57 jcamins The result was that everyone forked 3.1. 12:59 drojf now that you say it, i think it's really mostly the same person asking for LTS 12:59 drojf i think there were others at some point. others mostly active in the "demanding" department of koha ;) 13:00 jcamins Yup. 13:05 magnuse jcamins: search is still broken for upgraded package installs. i'll report a new bug later 13:05 * magnuse wanders off 13:06 jcamins magnuse: yeah, that will probably need a koha-upgrade-to-3.10 script. 13:06 * jcamins wanders off as well. 14:09 cait oleonard++ 14:09 cait now I missed the discussion? oh. 14:11 cait hm 14:11 cait i might reach 10.000 14:11 cait if I continue testing 14:55 magnuse cait++ 15:22 cait hmm 17:03 jcamins OMGWTFBBQ I HATE ACQUISITIONS! 17:04 cait lol 17:04 cait why this time? 17:05 jcamins Oh, creating a basketgroup is spectacularly non-obvious. 17:05 cait ah 17:05 cait it's pseudoautomatic 17:05 cait somehow 17:06 jcamins Oh, look, trying to delete a basketgroup fails under Plack+MariaDB. 17:06 jcamins Shocker! 17:08 jcamins cait: bug 7449 worked for you? 17:08 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7449 major, P5 - low, ---, fridolyn.somers, Passed QA , billingplace and freedeliveryplace not saved when creating a new basketgroup 17:10 jcamins Okay, it works. 17:11 jcamins Vaguely. 17:11 magnuse hehe 17:11 cait jcamins: yep 17:11 cait it saved 17:11 jcamins magnuse: well, like most of acquisitions, it's broken, but that's not the fault of the patch. 17:11 cait I tested it in marseille and again today 17:12 cait what is not working for you? 17:12 cait I filed a patch about the brnach pull downs 17:12 jcamins Saving. 17:12 cait a bu 17:12 cait g 17:12 cait oh what doe sit do? 17:12 jcamins Half the time, nothing. 17:12 cait hm interesting 17:12 wahanui interesting is sometimes good and sometimes bad 17:12 cait but I need more information :) 17:12 jcamins Deleting the basket groups fixed it. 17:12 jcamins It's undoubtedly a Plack thing. 17:12 cait aah 17:12 cait that might make totally sense 17:13 cait someone an idea about how to react to this? 17:13 cait [Sun Apr 07 19:06:15 2013] [error] [client 127.0.0.1] You do not have permission to use atq., referer: http://localhost:8080/cgi-bin/koha/tools/scheduler.pl 17:13 jcamins I do not. 17:13 jcamins But I think we should prounce "atq" like "atque." 17:13 jcamins It amuses me, and amusing the RM is always a good idea. 17:14 cait lol 17:14 cait latin speaking RM at least 17:14 jcamins lol 17:14 jcamins Right. 17:14 cait ;) 17:15 jcamins Hey, I already reported that basketgroups were broken broken broken under Plack, didn't I? 17:15 cait hm not sure you did 17:15 cait but someone who wnats to use plack for staff should fix that 17:15 jcamins Maybe not. 17:15 jcamins Agreed. 17:16 * magnuse hopes all his instances are fixed now 17:16 jcamins cait: did you QA all the help file patches? 17:17 cait only the signed off ones 17:19 jcamins Okay, because they don't all have your sign off. But if you didn't QA them all, that makes sense. :) 17:21 jcamins Ummm... 17:21 cait yes? 17:21 cait ah, could you make koha = Koha in the last one? 17:21 jcamins What is the point of the "Click to add item" button in the serial receive? 17:21 jcamins Sure. 17:21 cait you can add an item. 17:21 cait for the issue 17:21 cait ? 17:22 jcamins Right, but don't you do that by marking the issue arrived? 17:22 cait but back to the help files - it's the plugin one at the very bottom and I forgot to git add 17:22 cait yes, then the form opens up automagically 17:22 cait I think the link is for creating items when you don#t do that by default 17:22 jcamins Ah. 17:23 jcamins Well, this patch works, whether or not the duplicate functionality makes sense. 17:23 quocuy helo #koha 17:25 cait i guess it's not related to that. 17:25 cait duplicate functionality? 17:25 cait in serials? 17:25 magnuse bug 9996 created 17:25 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9996 critical, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Fix search for existing/upgraded Debian package instances 17:26 jcamins No, I didn't expect the patch to be related to it. 17:26 jcamins I just couldn't figure out the instructions for a while. 17:26 jcamins Because I never noticed the "Click to add item" button before. 17:29 cait magnuse: the race is still on? 17:29 cait :) 17:30 cait qa'ing the z39.50 patch from marcel 17:31 * cait wishes really hard thatsomeone would fix git bz unhappiness about character sets 17:31 cait UnicodeDecodeError: 'ascii' codec can't decode byte 0xc3 in position 943: ordinal not in range(128) 17:31 jcamins Ouch. 17:35 magnuse ouch 17:40 jenkins_koha Starting build #1135 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS) 17:46 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Merge branch 'bug_7853' into 3.12-master <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=f063dad5f208fd02dc8a58835086f8b1714aa1ac> / Bug 7853 - opac-maintanance.pl should correctly redirect back to opac-main.pl, if... <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=11caedbf1906dedd5a5c2692a2098d157f4fe380> / Merge branch 'bug_9459' into 3.12-master <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=k 17:53 cait hm 17:53 * cait is working on bug 8746 17:53 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8746 major, P5 - low, ---, julian.maurice, Signed Off , rebuild_zebra_sliced.sh don't work where Record length of 106041 is larger than the MARC spec allows 17:54 jcamins wtf? 17:54 jcamins What *possible* reason could there be for this comment: # FIXME: '$thisacct' is a string literal! 17:54 jcamins JUST CHANGE THE COMMENT! 17:55 cait I wondered about that myself. 17:56 * jcamins is using git log to find out who to complain to. 17:56 cait lol 17:56 cait i think healready did that 17:56 cait there is acommit message linked in the bug 17:56 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Merge branch 'bug_9381' into 3.12-master <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=88f2dd765f3c992d32083f5d9dd4a94c20d0219f> / Bug 9381: Increment version number <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=d890977603d9db597025bbec9b419341def7c720> / Followup 2 - Bug 9381 - Add Catalan language <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=e2651e15d54b7a00869f6c7 17:56 cait I mean a commit 17:58 jcamins Ah, so there is. 17:58 cait I have to say it looked well researched on first glance 17:59 * jcamins doesn't think Rosalie *really* wanted the fines broken. 17:59 cait hehe 17:59 cait probably not 17:59 jcamins I had only noticed the other commit ID, which is the FIXME but not the cause. 17:59 jcamins But I'm done pushing for today. 18:01 cait you did lots 18:01 cait jcamins++ 18:01 cait what exactly does this sliced zebra thing do? 18:02 jcamins That's the script in charge of separating the chuck from the rib, etc. 18:03 jcamins As RM, I have instructed it to reserve the tenderloin for me. :) 18:03 cait *rolleyes at the rm* 18:04 jcamins I did! 18:04 jcamins I feel that it is my prerogative. 18:05 jcamins So far no one has objected, so clearly I was right. 18:05 cait but you don't like meat 18:05 * jcamins resells it at a premium because Zebra tenderloin is very uncommon in New York. 18:05 cait that sounds more like you 18:05 cait magnuse was rebuilding a lot of zebras today 18:05 jcamins It makes economic sense. 18:06 cait maybe has has some leftover parts for you to seel 18:06 cait sell 18:06 jcamins I should've sold him the tenderloin he was missing. 18:06 jcamins ;) 18:06 cait you know how it goes... there is always something left when you try to reassemble a lot of zebras 18:06 jcamins True! 18:06 jcamins Very true. 18:06 wahanui I know. That's why I said it. 18:07 cait it's like with ikea furniture 18:37 gmcharlt @quote random 18:37 huginn gmcharlt: Quote #45: "<CGI988> sekjal - you are a genious!!!!! asking me about the browser!!!! yes it's the #$%$#%$#ing IE was messing my cataloguing, oh I hate miscrosoft, the evil!" (added by gmcharlt at 07:00 PM, November 05, 2009) 18:51 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #1135: SUCCESS in 1 hr 11 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/1135/ 18:51 jenkins_koha * Chris Cormack: Bug 9980: Fix for anonymous searches 18:51 jenkins_koha * D Ruth Bavousett: Bug 8061: RTL CSS overrides (staff client) 18:51 jenkins_koha * D Ruth Bavousett: Bug 8061: RTL CSS overrides (OPAC) 18:51 jenkins_koha * Karam Qubsi: Bug 8061: Follow up - RTL CSS overrides (staff client) 18:51 jenkins_koha * Karam Qubsi: Bug 8061: Follow Up (Opac-Prog) - enhancement to D Ruth's patch 18:51 jenkins_koha * Fridolyn SOMERS: Bug 7449: billingplace and freedeliveryplace not saved when creating a new basketgroup 18:51 jenkins_koha * Kyle M Hall: Bug 9902 - item subfields not populating 18:51 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9980 blocker, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Pushed to Master , Anonymous searches in the OPAC entirely broken 18:51 jenkins_koha * Nicole C. Engard: Bug 9850: Cataloging Help for 3.12 18:51 jenkins_koha * Nicole C. Engard: Bug 9850: Update Reports Help for 3.12 18:51 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8061 major, P1 - high, ---, karamqubsi, Pushed to Master , Koha's templates do not cope well with right-to-left languages 18:51 jenkins_koha * Nicole C. Engard: Bug 9850: Serial Help Files for 3.12 18:51 jenkins_koha * Nicole C. Engard: Bug 9850: Suggestion Help File for 3.12 18:51 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7449 major, P5 - low, ---, fridolyn.somers, Pushed to Master , billingplace and freedeliveryplace not saved when creating a new basketgroup 18:51 jenkins_koha * Nicole C. Engard: Bug 9850: Offline Circ Help Files for 3.12 18:51 jenkins_koha * Nicole C. Engard: Bug 9850: Update Circ Help Files for 3.12 18:51 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9902 major, P5 - low, ---, kyle.m.hall, Pushed to Master , item subfields not populating 18:51 jenkins_koha * Nicole C. Engard: Bug 9850: Add Plugin Help File for 3.12 18:51 jenkins_koha * Nicole C. Engard: Bug 9850: Update Tools Help for 3.12 18:51 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9850 normal, P5 - low, ---, nengard, ASSIGNED , Koha 3.12 Help Files Update 18:51 jenkins_koha * Nicole C. Engard: Bug 9850: FOLLOW UP: Add Missing Plugin Help for 3.12 18:51 jenkins_koha * Owen Leonard: Bug 9459 [Revised] Use DataTables on hold ratios report page 18:51 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9459 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Use DataTables on hold ratios report page 18:51 jenkins_koha * Mason James: Bug 7853 - opac-maintanance.pl should correctly redirect back to opac-main.pl, if no updates are outstanding 18:51 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7853 normal, P5 - low, ---, mtj, Pushed to Master , opac-maintanance.pl should correctly redirect back to opac-main.pl, if no updates are outstanding 18:51 jenkins_koha Starting build #1136 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS) 19:48 rangi Morning 19:48 wahanui hmmm... Morning is a state of cat 19:48 jcamins Morning. 19:48 wahanui Ah, morning. The cat must be wanting breakfast. 19:50 cait morning rangi 19:51 jcamins Could you please run the database update on jenkins when you get a chance? 19:51 rangi Will do once I'm off the bus 19:52 jcamins Thanks. 19:54 rangi Should I suggest the next rm should put the version number scheme they want as their proposal and then ppl can decide when picking the release team 19:54 rangi ? 19:54 cait you expect us to get more than 1 person applying to be rm next release? 19:55 rangi If someone suggests a mad scheme it might happen 19:55 rangi :) 19:56 jcamins I was thinking of putting an item on the agenda for the next meeting: "* Vote (NOT DISCUSS) on a proposal to change the version numbering for Koha to whole numbers starting with version 4 instead of what would otherwise be called 3.16" 19:56 rangi Sounds perfect to me 19:57 cait ? 19:57 rangi Fwiw it's always been x.x.x 19:57 * cait likes consistencs 19:57 rangi Starting with 1.0.0 19:57 cait I think changing just to change it is stupid 19:57 jcamins cait: I think discussing it is much more stupid than changing it. 19:58 jcamins ;) 19:58 rangi But I'd be fine with 4.x and then 5.x 19:58 jcamins Okay, I'll revise that to... "begin incrementing the major number of Koha's version every feature release starting with the release after 3.14." 19:58 cait hm 19:58 jcamins Actually, that's clearer, anyway. 19:58 rangi I mean it's not like it matters 19:59 cait so how do we cound bugfix relases then? one level higher? 19:59 rangi Yep 19:59 jcamins 4.1.0 19:59 cait after we kept epxlaining the other scheme over andover 19:59 cait I still htink it's not a needed change. 19:59 jcamins It's not. 19:59 rangi It's marketing 19:59 jcamins But if this sort of discussion doesn't stop on koha-devel, I am unsubscribing from the Koha mailing lists on May 22. 20:00 rangi There I said it 20:00 jcamins I will vote for anything that makes people focus on actually releasing a working version of Koha. 20:01 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #1136: UNSTABLE in 1 hr 10 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/1136/ 20:01 jenkins_koha * Chris Cormack: Bug 8200 - removing misc/translator/update.pl - deprecated file 20:01 jenkins_koha * Katrin Fischer: Bug 8200: Follow up - Removing unused file stats.pl 20:01 jenkins_koha * Tomas Cohen Arazi: Bug 9812 - Forbid access to several files through the browser 20:01 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8200 trivial, P5 - low, ---, chris, Pushed to Master , /home/chris/git/koha.git in /usr/share/koha/misc/translator/update.pl 20:01 jenkins_koha * Bernardo Gonzalez Kriegel: Bug 9381: Add Catalan language 20:01 jenkins_koha * Bernardo Gonzalez Kriegel: Followup Bug 9381 - Add Catalan language 20:01 jenkins_koha * Bernardo Gonzalez Kriegel: Followup 2 - Bug 9381 - Add Catalan language 20:01 jenkins_koha * Jared Camins-Esakov: Bug 9381: Increment version number 20:01 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9812 minor, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Pushed to Master , Several files shouldn't be exposed or browseable through a URL 20:01 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9381 trivial, P5 - low, ---, bgkriegel, Pushed to Master , Add Catalan language 20:02 cait we could say in order to vote for the version 20:02 cait you have to fix one of the bugs i reported 20:02 jcamins lol 20:03 jcamins Except that people don't actually want to vote. 20:03 rangi Lol 20:03 jcamins People want to argue. 20:06 rangi Fibonacci seq starting next week 20:06 jcamins lol 20:07 cait I am against doing stupid things for marketing 20:07 cait especially if osmeone else is using that idea already 20:07 jcamins So am I. 20:07 jcamins But, as I said, I am more against people spamming me. 20:08 cait hm 20:08 jcamins Every single message in that thread (33!) is a patch that did not get written, signed off, or QAed. 20:08 rangi Oh I signed off 3 for every response I wrote 20:09 rangi To balance the ledger 20:09 jcamins Okay, 31 missed patches. 20:09 rangi But yeah 20:09 jcamins I pushed about 5 patches for each response I wrote, I guess. 20:09 cait ... I only wrote one answer! 20:09 cait and I qa'd more 20:09 rangi Hehe 20:11 rangi Yours was a good answer 20:11 rangi I think we need a big diagram 20:11 rangi On the main site, showing releases 20:12 cait hm? 20:12 alohabot Hi mib_r9gxk8, Welcome to #koha. Feel free to use the '/nick yourname' command to choose a different name. alohabot, wahanui, and huginn are bots. If you need any help, just ask - there's usually someone around to help :) 20:12 mib_r9gxk8 i am new to Koha. Is there any librarians in London using Koha 20:13 jcamins mib_r9gxk8: there are some, definitely. 20:13 rangi I think so 20:13 rangi Can someone paste the wiki page? 20:14 jcamins I'm looking for it now. 20:14 * rangi will brb 20:14 jcamins mib_r9gxk8: http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Koha_Users_Worldwide 20:14 mib_r9gxk8 i am getting used to adding new books. But still not sure about authority records. Anyone a koha pro here? 20:15 jcamins Ask your questions, and if people have answers, we'll give them. 20:16 cait morning kathryn 20:16 cait :) 20:16 kathryn hello dear cait of swift greetings! 20:16 kathryn :) 20:17 cait :) 20:17 * jcamins pictures kathryn singing that to the tune of "Knight of the Woeful Countenance." 20:17 mib_r9gxk8 Does anyone know how to add more subfields to tag 111 i.e. corporate author? 20:17 jcamins mib_r9gxk8: what subfields do you want to add? 20:17 * kathryn looks up what must be a familiar ditty 20:18 jcamins Most likely you just need to click where it says "HEADING--CORPORATE NAME" 20:18 mib_r9gxk8 i'd like to add n (conference no) 20:19 jcamins Or, rather, HEADING--MEETING NAME. 20:19 jcamins You said 111 not 110, sorry. :) 20:19 mib_r9gxk8 i did but a few subtags appear but not all 20:19 cait @marc 111 n 20:19 huginn cait: Number of part/section/meeting A number of a meeting or a number designation for a part or section of a work. (Repeatable) 20:19 jcamins Okay, if you did that most likely you need to add it to the framework. 20:20 mib_r9gxk8 how do i add to the framework 20:20 jcamins Take a look in Administration -> Authority types -> MEETI_NAME -> MARC structure 20:20 mib_r9gxk8 thanks 20:21 jcamins Odd. 20:21 jcamins That shows up for me. 20:21 jcamins And I did not modify my authority frameworks at all. 20:21 jcamins Do you possibly mean 111 in the *bib* record? 20:22 mib_r9gxk8 Yes apologies I meant bib record 20:22 jcamins Okay. 20:22 jcamins Administration -> MARC bibliographic frameworks -> (choose the framework you want) -> MARC structure 20:27 kathryn Bah haha! jcamins, but yeah I would sing that 20:29 rangi jcamins: updatedatabase run 20:29 jcamins The scansion is a bit off, but I'm sure you could find a way to make "hello dear cait of the swift greetings work." 20:30 * Guest1341 gives jcamins some sunday fudge. 20:30 wizzyrea1 hm no, he makes fine fudg. 20:30 jcamins rangi: thanks! 20:31 wizzyrea1 um, Pi? 20:31 wahanui i guess Pi is fine. glad i made a new card with fresh debian and koha stable before so i can still play with it ;) 20:31 * wizzyrea1 runs gigglig 20:31 * jcamins will take it. 20:31 jcamins Hehe. 20:33 * wizzyrea1 does not have in internet cold, just monday typing fingers. 20:33 wizzyrea1 an* 20:43 rangi i should set up jenkins to build 3.12.x too now eh 20:46 * magnuse waves to #koha before going off to sleep 20:46 rangi jcamins: http://opac.koha.workbuffer.org/cgi-bin/koha/opac-search.pl?idx=kw&q=young%20poem&count=50&sort_by=acqdate_dsc&format=opds 20:47 rangi https://gitorious.org/koha/mainline/commit/356eaf610ece6a690e40f43395cb38a3992b214d 20:47 mib_r9gxk8 not been successful as yet in adding subfield code n to 111. Subfields c d g e appear in template but cant find n? Have checked authority Admin > authority type .. 20:47 rangi the bit i like is the possibilities given with 20:47 rangi http://opds-spec.org/specs/opds-catalog-1-0-20100830/#Acquisition_Relations 20:48 rambutan would it make sense to have a section on koha-community for "features that would be nice to code if they could get some funding"? 20:48 rangi make your open access stuff easily discoverable 20:48 rangi rambutan: we kinda have that on the wiki, but yeah tidying that up into one place might not hurt 20:48 rangi we'd need a volunteer to curate 20:49 rangi jcamins: an ebook reader like calibre or aldiko can ingest an opds feed 20:50 jcamins Interesting! 20:50 wahanui interesting is sometimes good and sometimes bad 20:50 jcamins I like it! 20:51 rangi mib_r9gxk8: you checked the marc framework right? 20:51 wizzyrea1 it's not hidden or set to a ludicrous hidden value in the framework 20:51 wizzyrea1 ? 20:53 * cait sighs 20:53 rangi we are working on something that might help rambutan 20:53 cait i need to pass one more... i need a bug that passes! 20:54 wizzyrea and it would work really well if people would mark things Feature instead of enhancement. 20:55 mib_r9gxk8 It says hidden. Tab:1, Repeatable, Mandatory, hidden,. Any ideas on how to unhide 20:55 wizzyrea click into edit 20:55 wizzyrea and click the help 20:55 wizzyrea in the upper right hand corner 20:55 wizzyrea then, click "more constraints" 20:55 wizzyrea and where it says "hidden" 20:55 rambutan we are? 20:55 wizzyrea put in the appropriate value. 20:56 wizzyrea we could do some kind of CSS in our bugzilla that makes the enhancements not grey, but some other color. 20:56 wizzyrea whose bugzilla was I looking at that was super cheerful. 20:56 wizzyrea was it mahara maybe? 20:58 cait they have those super cute graphics too 20:58 wizzyrea cait: http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9894 20:58 huginn 04Bug 9894: normal, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Signed Off , 'hidden' value is hard to understand in frameworks 20:59 cait that's a bit big for tonight 20:59 cait :) 20:59 wizzyrea is it? it's only JS 20:59 cait but I test things you know :) 20:59 cait and it's almost 11 21:00 cait we are 10 hours apart now 21:00 wizzyrea ok yea, it might be heavy for 11 21:00 cait @wunder Konstanz 21:00 huginn cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 2.1°C (10:55 PM CEST on April 07, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 79%. Dew Point: -1.0°C. Windchill: 2.0°C. Pressure: 29.89 in 1012 hPa (Falling). 21:00 rangi @wunder nzwn 21:00 huginn rangi: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 11.0°C (8:00 AM NZST on April 08, 2013). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 82%. Dew Point: 8.0°C. Pressure: 30.15 in 1021 hPa (Steady). 21:01 wizzyrea this was the one http://img827.imageshack.us/img827/295/selection083.png 21:01 wizzyrea and it's all red and stuff. 21:01 wizzyrea but that worm is super cute. 21:01 wizzyrea in his little red shir.t 21:01 wizzyrea shirt* 21:09 * cait fails another :( 21:14 * cait waves 21:21 cait ok 21:21 cait I am tired 21:21 cait but those dates are not sorted correctly, are they? 21:21 cait [off] http://librarygeekgirl.de/pics/date.png 21:23 rangi no 21:23 wizzyrea yea no. 21:23 cait meh 21:23 * cait fails another 21:23 wizzyrea which bug? 21:23 cait the third datatables bug in a row :( 21:23 rangi thats one i tested 21:23 rangi you have flushed all your caches eh 21:23 cait i can try that again 21:23 rangi you arent using a mismatch of js ? 21:24 cait mismatch? 21:24 rangi i thought i had it working 21:24 rangi half new half old 21:24 cait hm still the same 21:24 wahanui the same is true in the U.S. It's more propaganda than anything approaching the truth. 21:24 wizzyrea forget the same 21:24 wahanui wizzyrea: I forgot same 21:24 cait no errors 21:24 rangi ah well, im sure owen will figure it out 21:24 cait probably 21:25 wizzyrea cait: you are using which date format? 21:25 wizzyrea out of curiosity 21:25 cait dd-mm-yyyy 21:25 cait there is no 17th month ;) 21:25 alohabot Hi mib_ng0t0x, Welcome to #koha. Feel free to use the '/nick yourname' command to choose a different name. alohabot, wahanui, and huginn are bots. If you need any help, just ask - there's usually someone around to help :) 21:25 * wizzyrea wonders if the US dates are working ok 21:25 cait probably. 21:25 cait but I can check 21:26 wizzyrea naw 21:26 wizzyrea that's kind of beyond your pay grade. :) 21:26 wizzyrea it doesn't work with proper dates 21:26 wizzyrea it's bustid. 21:26 cait yep it does work with us 21:26 wizzyrea or you are beyond testing that 21:26 wizzyrea is what I meant. 21:27 rangi maybe i had us on or somthing 21:27 rangi when i tested 21:27 rangi its possible 21:27 rangi or just didnt have enough dates to spot it 21:27 wizzyrea that's the default way *shrug* it'd be easy to miss. 21:28 mib_ng0t0x Please can someone tell me how to suppress the 100 field when the main entry is not the author but the title is. The book has an editor. thanks 21:28 rangi mib_ng0t0x: youve found the manual eh? 21:28 rangi manual? 21:28 wahanui manual is at http://www.koha-community.org/documentation 21:32 mib_ng0t0x i have checked under Author create authorities etc but each time I save record it says 100 is mandatory field. 21:33 rangi mib_ng0t0x: its the frameworks again 21:33 rangi you need to edit your marc framework to make it not mandatory 21:40 mib_ng0t0x I have selected no to repeatable and no to mandatory in framework. Still cant save because tag 100 sub a field not filled. 21:40 wizzyrea you have to edit the subfield 21:40 wizzyrea to make it not mandatory 21:41 wizzyrea or you have to turn on "biblioaddsauthority" 21:41 wizzyrea or edit the subfield to make it not authority controlled 21:41 wizzyrea it's under "more constraints" 21:41 wizzyrea for subfield a 21:49 mib_ng0t0x You have all been great. Many thanks I am getting used to the idea now of checking the framework. 21:50 mib_ng0t0x Please can you give me another tip so that I can display the subtitle in normal view. I can see the complete title in marc view though. 21:53 mib_ng0t0x sorry to trouble you again. I am not able to see the subtitle tag 100 in the normal view. 22:05 eythian hi all 22:05 * cait waves 22:05 cait and good night :) 22:08 wizzyrea http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9983 < this thing is output, and should be configurable as such... anyone want to fight about it? :) 22:08 huginn 04Bug 9983: enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , printable fines page should include name/barcode 22:08 wizzyrea or tell me I'm wrong 22:08 wizzyrea because... that would be ok 22:09 rangi no you are right 22:11 wizzyrea so slips/notices, in my opinion 22:11 wizzyrea if you print it, and a library might want to control what's on the thing they hand to the patron 22:11 wizzyrea it should be in there 22:11 wizzyrea print it, email it 22:11 wizzyrea phone call it 22:11 wizzyrea SMS it 22:12 * wizzyrea tries to fit it into the field of dreams thing, can't 22:16 eythian Work It Make It Do It 22:45 jenkins_koha Starting build #1 for job Koha_3.12.x 22:51 * eythian notes the main koha list seems to still be down (or suspiciously quiet) 22:52 rangi yeah i pinged sijobl but he doesnt seem to be around 22:52 rangi ill drop him an email 22:53 eythian @seen sijobl 22:53 huginn eythian: sijobl was last seen in #koha 2 weeks, 4 days, 0 hours, 21 minutes, and 39 seconds ago: <sijobl> as you do 22:54 rangi email away 22:55 eythian of course, depending on the nature of the problem, he may not get it :) 22:55 rangi heh i think they run a couple of mailservers 22:55 rangi one specifically for the lists, which is a good idea, thats where the spammers hit 22:56 rangi well they used to anyway 22:56 eythian yeah 22:59 alohabot Hi mib_kyit98, Welcome to #koha. Feel free to use the '/nick yourname' command to choose a different name. alohabot, wahanui, and huginn are bots. If you need any help, just ask - there's usually someone around to help :) 23:02 mib_kyit98 '/nick paul.a' 23:04 CanuckPaul Anyone here? 23:13 jcamins eythian++ 23:23 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.12.x build #1: SUCCESS in 47 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.12.x/1/ 23:23 CanuckPaul Good evening|morning -- never used IRC before