Time Nick Message
23:59 mtj ah, ok - thats a pretty good point
23:57 mtj hmm, well in that case… the older modules in perl-module may be more secure after all :)
23:57 eythian On Ubuntu, CGI.pm won't get security updates because it's in universe, whereas the version in perl-modules will as it's in main.
23:57 jcamins Not that I particularly follow these things.
23:56 mtj … rather than creating a whole new package for the fix
23:56 jcamins My understanding was that they hadn't necessarily been vetted for security.
23:55 mtj well, the one thing i am curious/unsure about is…. why those fixes were not just added to perl-modules
23:55 eythian and in fact, on ubuntu it may get fixes where the individual package doesn't
23:54 jcamins I had understood that perl-modules was supposed to get security fixes too.
23:54 eythian perl-modules will also get security fixes if needed
23:53 mtj afaict, they have bug or security fixes
23:52 mtj if in doubt…. use the newer package
23:51 jcamins I'm not sure I disagree, either.
23:51 * jcamins is not sure he agrees with that assumption.
23:50 jcamins Hm.
23:50 mtj thats about it… :p
23:49 mtj the idea is pretty simple, its based on the assumption that newer is better
23:48 jcamins mtj: oh, why did you write a patch changing the dependency to not be on perl-modules? I didn't follow what the difference was.
23:48 mtj heya, jcamins - about :)
23:47 jcamins I haven't seen him around in a while.
23:46 jcamins eythian: BTW, any idea why mtj wrote a patch that installs the separately packaged modules?
23:46 jcamins mib_xble6z: why did you think the modules were missing?
23:27 mib_xble6z ah, they are in /usr/lib/perl
23:27 eythian and of the two, one is perl itself
23:27 eythian the middle one isn't what you're looking for
23:27 eythian There are only two
23:26 mib_xble6z there are 3 module, which to choose?
23:26 mib_xble6z koha@mail:~$ apt-file search Guess.pm libencode-perl: /usr/lib/perl5/Encode/Guess.pm libtext-csv-encoded-perl: /usr/share/perl5/Text/CSV/Encoded/Coder/EncodeGuess.pm perl: /usr/lib/perl/5.14.2/Encode/Guess.pm
23:25 eythian if you want to be more specific
23:25 eythian or Encode/Guess.pm
23:22 mib_xble6z oops, how interesting
23:22 jcamins Yup.
23:21 wahanui the last one is the first one if you look backwards.
23:21 mib_xble6z the last one?
23:21 jcamins Guess.pm.
23:20 mib_xble6z and if i wanna search for this Encode::Guess, what should i type? apt-file search Encode.pm? it has the same problem
23:16 mib_xble6z ok
23:16 eythian $ apt-file search CGI.pm
23:16 mib_xble6z how to u find that? i still have some module can't install
23:15 mib_xble6z thanks, done
23:15 eythian so you probably already have it
23:15 eythian though, it's also provided by perl-modules
23:15 mib_xble6z ok, give me 1 min to try
23:15 eythian libcgi-pm-perl
23:12 jcamins What I would do now is look at packages.ubuntu.com and search for CGI.pm.
23:12 mib_xble6z yes, i often use sudo apt-get, but some time, doesn't work, so i tried cpan :)
23:11 mib_xble6z i'm trying to install ilbot in my VPS
23:11 mib_xble6z koha@mail:~$ sudo apt-get install libcgi-perl Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree Reading state information... Done Package libcgi-perl is not available, but is referred to by another package. This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or is only available from another source E: Package 'libcgi-perl' has no insta
23:10 wizzyrea how did it fail
23:10 mib_xble6z used sudo apt-get install libcgi-perl , failed
23:10 jcamins Ever, really.
23:10 jcamins Don't use CPAN.
23:10 mib_xble6z i used sudo cpan> install CGI , failed,
23:09 mib_xble6z sorry to jump into your conversation, can u tell me how to install module perl CGI in ubuntu server?
23:09 jenkins_koha Starting build #1132 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS)
23:01 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Merge branch 'bug_6554' into 3.12-master <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=9c0b2e408b496b999cdbede92e651f3aef588209> / Bug 6554 Followup for circulation patron search <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=f257944d10c2660e7d7297768af314985c80a1c7> / Bug 6554: Followup for preferences.pl <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=c78b905811ed4869a
23:01 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9613 minor, P5 - low, ---, fridolyn.somers, Passed QA , items namespace missing in XSLT
23:01 wizzyrea bug 9613
23:00 MrAgent075 cait++ [ woot!! :D ]
22:57 jcamins And 9613.
22:57 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9572 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Passed QA , Opac info tooltip from branches is not well positioned
22:57 wizzyrea bug 9572
22:56 jcamins And then there's 9572.
22:56 wizzyrea cait++
22:56 wizzyrea \o/ that is serious winning.
22:54 bag cait++
22:54 bag awesome
22:54 rangi cait++ # 101 bugs passed QA last month from her and now look signed off is below 100, and below needs signoff for the first time in over a year
22:54 jcamins If there are problems, someone will spot them.
22:54 jcamins Okay, I'm pushing 6554.
22:46 jcamins Or, at least, part of the problem.
22:46 jcamins Unfortunately, I'm pretty sure the problem is the pl files.
22:45 rangi sounds like an easy fix, change the in module cache to actually use a sensible caching mechanism and/or make setting one flush the cache (or inject the new value)
22:44 jcamins Ever.
22:44 jcamins As long as you don't want to change them.
22:44 jcamins Well, I suppose they're compatible.
22:44 eythian that's an issue
22:44 wizzyrea that is very not good.
22:44 jcamins Also, authorized values aren't compatible with Plack.
22:44 jcamins Yes.
22:43 jcamins Or...
22:43 jcamins damaged is a TINYINT.
22:42 jcamins I think 6554 passes!
22:42 jcamins Hey, this is good!
22:42 jcamins Actually, I found a different bug.
22:42 jcamins Wait.
22:42 jcamins Yeah.
22:42 eythian it looks like a big one, anyway
22:42 jcamins On the plus side, after two days of on-and-off testing, I found the problem.
22:41 jcamins I knew 6554 was going to be a problem.
22:41 jcamins Ugh.
22:27 eythian no, not that normal. The new normal.
22:26 ibeardslee howling southerlies with horizontal rain?
22:26 eythian then back to normal
22:26 eythian well, supposed to be three days of showers from tomorrow.
22:25 wizzyrea actually I'm about ready for a change :P
22:24 * wizzyrea holds summer hostage in the southern hemisphere
22:24 eythian oh
22:24 eythian http://www.metservice.com/towns-cities/wellington/wellington-city <-- cait, done
22:23 wizzyrea lol <3 love that bot.
22:23 wahanui goodnight cait. You'll be back.
22:23 cait night all
22:23 cait and now i amgoing to sleep
22:23 cait eythian: hand over summer - I expect to see some spring tomorow! :)
22:23 jcamins It stopped as I reached my building.
22:23 cait heh
22:23 jcamins It was *pouring* as I walked back from the subway.
22:22 jcamins It's spring here.
22:22 eythian you're not getting it back for a bit yet
22:22 eythian yeah, we're keeping your summer sorry
22:22 cait opposite here
22:22 eythian it's uncharacteristically warm for this time of year I think
22:22 wizzyrea is nice.
22:22 huginn eythian: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 18.0°C (9:00 AM NZDT on April 02, 2013). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 83%. Dew Point: 15.0°C. Pressure: 29.98 in 1015 hPa (Steady).
22:22 eythian @wunder nzwn
22:21 huginn cait: The current temperature in Konstanz, Germany is 2.0°C (12:00 AM CEST on April 02, 2013). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 61%. Dew Point: -3.0°C. Pressure: 29.70 in 1006 hPa (Falling).
22:21 cait @wunder Konstanz
22:11 mib_xble6z ok, let me have a look at install guide
22:10 gmcharlt oops
22:10 gmcharlt mib_xble6z: looks like not
22:09 jcamins mib_xble6z: doesn't look like it.
22:07 tsbere It was partially the timing of it all. I literally logged in remotely to grab a file I left on my desktop at the office and while I was opening folders the client pinged me. ;)
22:07 mib_xble6z in ubuntu, i hope.
22:06 mib_xble6z is there a package install ilbot?
22:06 jcamins Guaranteed to give you a good three minutes of confusion while you wonder how your windows got swapped.
22:06 cait heh
22:06 * gmcharlt makes note to schedule next Evergreen dev meeting to be held in #koha ;)
22:06 senator boo
22:06 wahanui OK, eythian.
22:06 eythian wahanui: tsbere is <reply>if you say tsbere three times, he will appear.
22:06 jcamins tsbere: you think that's weird, just wait until senator, Dyrcona, gmcharlt, and jeff are all talking in here.
22:05 gmcharlt :)
22:05 * tsbere is not used to getting alerts from his IRC client for #koha discussions
22:04 gmcharlt Evergreen uses the SupyBot channel logger, and a local PHP script written by tsbere to display them: http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=Evergreen_Website.git;a=history;f=irc_logs.php
22:04 jcamins That was my workaround.
22:04 jcamins Yeah.
22:04 wizzyrea they = eythian and rangi
22:04 wizzyrea so just bang a space on the end or something.
22:03 wizzyrea it doesn't detect that there's something to save
22:03 wizzyrea because there are no keyboard strokes
22:03 wizzyrea cool they tell me it's a browser thing
22:03 mib_xble6z i'm using ubuntu, too
22:03 mib_xble6z i have never faced that issue
22:03 cait I couldn't reproduce it properly but it has happened
22:02 wizzyrea cool so it's not just me
22:02 jcamins I always thought it was a Mac-only issue.
22:02 cait because I had that happen yesterday
22:02 wizzyrea no
22:02 cait wizzyrea: did yo have only one pref on that page?
22:02 jcamins wizzyrea: yes.
22:02 wizzyrea has anyone else had an issue where pasting something into, say, opacnav, it doesn't get saved correctly? maybe that's an ubuntu only issue.
22:02 cait hm why another logbot btw?
22:02 jcamins I think you tell the bot to log into your channel.
22:02 * jcamins doesn't know, sorry.
22:01 mib_xble6z so after i install ilbot, what's next?
22:01 mib_xble6z :)
22:01 rangi hmm?
22:01 cait he just ignores us :P
22:00 jcamins Never mind, then.
22:00 jcamins Oh.
22:00 cait heh
22:00 eythian I can see him from here
22:00 jcamins cait: taking the kids to school?
22:00 cait jcamins: why is rangi not here?
21:59 mib_xble6z yes, jcamins sent me this, so there is some works to finish.
21:58 gmcharlt #koha's bot is http://moritz.faui2k3.org/en/ilbot
21:57 jcamins gmcharlt: yeah, but you run #evergreen's, don't you? And rangi isn't here.
21:57 mib_xble6z thanks
21:57 cjh there is also the public logs: http://irc.koha-community.org/irclog/koha/
21:57 gmcharlt jcamins: nothing :) rangi runs the logbot
21:57 mib_xble6z and what next? point widget to my server?
21:57 jcamins Though if you search you might be able to find hosted log bot services.
21:56 jcamins Yes.
21:56 mib_xble6z so i have to install this thing in my VPS?
21:56 jcamins gmcharlt: what do you use for your logbot?
21:55 jcamins Here's a log bot: http://moritz.faui2k3.org/en/ilbot
21:55 mib_xble6z yes, it seem not easily to figure out
21:54 jcamins I don't really know how to do that.
21:54 mib_xble6z how?
21:54 jcamins No. You'd have to set up a log bot.
21:53 mib_xble6z i used the same server oftc.net as like here. My question is, does server save my chat with another in vietnamese? how can i access it? Here i see Koha logged, the chat every day
21:52 mib_xble6z <iframe width="670" height="350" src="http://widget.mibbit.com/?settings=b502800a5fc7d36e6b211feb13f9e95e&server=irc.oftc.net&channel=%23Dreamlib-community"></iframe>
21:52 mib_xble6z this is my new widget with mibbit
21:51 mib_xble6z jcamins, i have a question :)
21:42 jcamins Okay, not quite all.
21:42 jcamins Bah, humbug. All the patches that require review are difficult.
21:40 mib_xble6z :)
21:40 jcamins I just think you're playing with mibbit. :)
21:40 jcamins Not at all.
21:39 mib_xble6z sorry if disturb u :)
21:39 mib_xble6z it's me :), still learning something
21:38 * jcamins thinks someone is playing with mibbit. :)
21:38 alohabot Hi mib_xble6z, Welcome to #koha. Feel free to use the '/nick yourname' command to choose a different name. alohabot, wahanui, and huginn are bots. If you need any help, just ask - there's usually someone around to help :)
21:35 alohabot Hi mib_4y8mgc, Welcome to #koha. Feel free to use the '/nick yourname' command to choose a different name. alohabot, wahanui, and huginn are bots. If you need any help, just ask - there's usually someone around to help :)
21:09 alohabot Hi mib_usmqzv, Welcome to #koha. Feel free to use the '/nick yourname' command to choose a different name. alohabot, wahanui, and huginn are bots. If you need any help, just ask - there's usually someone around to help :)
21:01 alohabot Hi mib_axn1yf, Welcome to #koha. Feel free to use the '/nick yourname' command to choose a different name. alohabot, wahanui, and huginn are bots. If you need any help, just ask - there's usually someone around to help :)
20:59 wahanui hello, mib_lnbfj2
20:59 mib_lnbfj2 hi
20:59 alohabot Hi mib_lnbfj2, Welcome to #koha. Feel free to use the '/nick yourname' command to choose a different name. alohabot, wahanui, and huginn are bots. If you need any help, just ask - there's usually someone around to help :)
20:41 wizzyrea later!
20:41 * druthb buzzes off for the day. see y'all soon!
20:39 wizzyrea ah yep
20:38 cait oh
20:38 druthb Some things never change, though…I've inherited a project that no one else really wants. :P
20:36 druthb Love it here. Great folks, doing neat things, good bennies, and the energy is just amazing,
20:35 druthb good, good!
20:35 wizzyrea how is the new job?
20:35 wizzyrea hey! how's it goin?
20:35 * druthb waves to wizzyrea, n sends a hi from her Minion, too
20:34 wizzyrea later :)
20:34 * jcamins heads home.
20:33 wizzyrea :) you're welcome
20:30 mib_e4l0hc thanks
20:30 mib_e4l0hc how easily!
20:30 jcamins Ah.
20:30 mib_e4l0hc it only works
20:30 mib_e4l0hc sorry, it's me nguyenquocuy, i'm testing with this widget in my website
20:30 wizzyrea mibbit.
20:29 jcamins What's working?
20:29 mib_e4l0hc hello
20:29 alohabot Hi mib_e4l0hc, Welcome to #koha. Feel free to use the '/nick yourname' command to choose a different name. alohabot, wahanui, and huginn are bots. If you need any help, just ask - there's usually someone around to help :)
20:28 wizzyrea oh, guess it's working.
20:28 Guest910 hello
20:24 jcamins wizzyrea: yeah, I blame the French.
20:21 wizzyrea milliard?
20:21 * oleonard will see you all later
20:21 oleonard Thanks
20:21 rangi ill try to take a look oleonard
20:20 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8278 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED , Replace YUI autocomplete in UNIMARC 210c plugin
20:20 oleonard rangi: There is some session-related weirdness with Bug 8278 that I though you might be able to help me with. I just added some details to the bug.
20:20 jcamins For the record, the people who came up with the idea of using "milliard" for "billion" (or vice versa) should be ashamed of themselves.
20:19 nguyenquocuy i'm in http://koha-community.org/get-involved/irc/
20:19 nguyenquocuy is this widget, which we are using to chat here?
20:17 nguyenquocuy yes, i'm reading :)
20:16 wizzyrea there's also a widget on this page http://koha-community.org/get-involved/irc/
20:16 wizzyrea that link would probably do
20:15 wizzyrea http://widget.mibbit.com/?settings=b38321bfd8c98914b434d93925aeaa44&server=irc.oftc.net&channel=%23koha
20:15 nguyenquocuy ok/
20:15 wizzyrea sec
20:15 cait morning wizzyrea
20:15 nguyenquocuy or just need to point a link here?
20:15 jcamins I think mibbit is your best bet.
20:15 wizzyrea you can make a mibbit widget and have a connection that way
20:14 nguyenquocuy i have a website for public Koha in vietnam, how can i bring this windows (i mean irc chat) directly to my website?
20:14 jcamins I have 10.
20:14 jcamins The more you take out of the PQA queue, the less I have!
20:14 jcamins Thank you!
20:14 rangi thanks
20:13 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9928 blocker, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Passed QA , no way to see all purchase suggestions at all
20:13 jcamins rangi: bug 9928 is for you.
20:13 nguyenquocuy :)
20:12 cait if it would work
20:12 cait oleonard: but more should probably - it's a nice feature :)
20:12 jcamins cait: hehe.
20:12 jcamins I would say "no," but given the amount of my code in Koha... I leave it for you to decide. :)
20:12 cait that would make a good video :)
20:11 * cait giggles
20:11 jcamins It's nice. No trying to handle a 2m x 3m poster in a space the size of a bathtub.
20:10 nguyenquocuy are u a programmer? jcamins
20:10 jcamins They have a professional photographer.
20:10 jcamins Actually, I'm doing a lot of the cataloging off of photographs.
20:10 jcamins oleonard: it's not in Koha. :(
20:10 * oleonard wants to see the local cover images for that catalog!
20:09 jcamins Right now I'm doing some translation and cataloging for a dealer in "vintage posters." Since I have my own business, I am somewhere different every day of the week.
20:08 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8278 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED , Replace YUI autocomplete in UNIMARC 210c plugin
20:08 * oleonard is spending too much time on Bug 8278 considering no one uses the feature
20:08 nguyenquocuy yes, and where are u working now?
20:07 jcamins Too many patches!
20:06 jcamins Actually, I mostly ignore the wiki.
20:06 jcamins I'm not sure. I mostly ignore the installation instructions.
20:06 nguyenquocuy i saw it, did it change recently?
20:03 jcamins It's probably in both.
20:02 nguyenquocuy ok, i'll check it
20:02 nguyenquocuy not in http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Koha_on_ubuntu_-_packages ? i often use this guide
20:02 jcamins Rerun that command.
20:02 jcamins ^^ on that page there is a command that includes "apt-key" somewhere in it.
20:02 wahanui i guess packages is at http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Debian
20:02 jcamins packages?
20:02 jcamins Ah, yeah, we updated our signatures.
20:01 nguyenquocuy what's up?
20:01 nguyenquocuy A error occurred during the signature verification. The repository is not updated and the previous index files will be used. GPG error: http://debian.koha-community.org oldstable InRelease: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 3C9356BBA2E41F10 W: Failed to fetch http://debian.koha-community.org/koha
20:00 nguyenquocuy jcamins, i'm using koha 3.8.7 for testing, and wanna upgrade to 3.8.11, but when i type sudo apt-get update, i got this error
19:58 nguyenquocuy it's time to relax
19:58 nguyenquocuy it's Ok :)
19:57 druthb aw!
19:57 jcamins Not enough wasabi!
19:57 jcamins ... on the subject of which, the wasabi-ginger chocolate chip cookies were a failure.
19:56 jcamins It is possible that I may have something to do with this.
19:56 jcamins nguyenquocuy: you'll notice that #koha tends to spend a lot of time talking about cats and food, particularly dessert.
19:55 jcamins Hard to say which is more prevalent?
19:54 druthb 10 kg of fluff n bad attitude.
19:54 cait hmm
19:53 jcamins cait: yeah, but Captain Midnight is big enough that I suspect nothing short of a saber-tooth tiger would phase him.
19:53 druthb naah!
19:53 * cait thinks druthb can probably be quite scary
19:52 druthb He didn't, but his co-conspirator (the Pixel-cat) did..
19:52 jcamins Or did he say "I'm still bigger than you, feed me now!"?
19:52 jcamins druthb: did he believe you?
19:52 druthb …and that Global Express shipping has gotten cheaper, of late.
19:52 druthb The last time my cat did that, I had a lengthy conversation with him, reminding him gently that in certain parts of the world, cat is a delicacy.
19:51 chris_n the cat was scratching the door @ 2am this morning wanting breakfast :P
19:49 wahanui Ah, morning. The cat must be wanting breakfast.
19:49 jcamins Morning.
19:49 nguyenquocuy morning rangi
19:49 cait morning rangi :)
19:49 nguyenquocuy electric-controll and information system
19:49 rangi morning
19:48 jcamins What are you studying?
19:48 nguyenquocuy :)
19:48 jcamins And cold.
19:48 jcamins It was wonderful.
19:48 jcamins It was. We went ice skating on Christmas day.
19:48 nguyenquocuy have u been in Red square? it was nice, wasn't it?
19:47 nguyenquocuy finish university and now PhD
19:47 jcamins I was in Moscow for 17 days starting Christmas Eve 2007.
19:46 jcamins Wait. 17 days.
19:46 nguyenquocuy i have lived here for 6-7 years :)
19:46 nguyenquocuy when have you been in russia?
19:46 jcamins Moscow.
19:46 jcamins I've only been in Russia for 10 days.
19:46 jcamins Я изучал руÑÑки в универÑитете. Ð¡ÐµÐ¹Ñ‡Ð°Ñ Ð¶Ðµ Ñ Ð¿ÐµÑ€ÐµÐ²Ð¾Ð¶Ñƒ руÑÑкий плакаты.
19:45 nguyenquocuy yes, datadoctor, i agree with u
19:45 cait datadoctor++ heh :)
19:45 nguyenquocuy i'm living in Rostov-on-Don
19:44 nguyenquocuy клаÑÑно
19:44 nguyenquocuy как Ñ‚Ñ‹ по-руÑкий говоришь?
19:44 jcamins :)
19:44 datadoctor nguyenquocoy - Koha is one of the best open source softwares that I have seen. Everyone should try it! :)
19:43 jcamins Где в РоÑÑии?
19:43 nguyenquocuy nice to see you!
19:43 nguyenquocuy i'm living in russia now, but i'm vietnamese
19:42 jcamins I live in New York (city).
19:42 nguyenquocuy where do you come from, jcamins?
19:42 nguyenquocuy ok. i'm trying to make Koha be come popular in my country, it's not easy.
19:41 jcamins So it's easy for me to misunderstand things.
19:41 jcamins No, I'm mostly focusing on other things.
19:41 nguyenquocuy haha, sorry, my bad english
19:41 jcamins Excellent!
19:41 nguyenquocuy now is time for learning more and more :)
19:40 nguyenquocuy i joined in team, leader by Virmal, he said i can do it in 3.14
19:40 jcamins And that worried me, since 3.12 isn't out yet. :)
19:40 jcamins I thought you were saying that you *installed* the live DVD for 3.14.
19:40 jcamins Oh, I see.
19:40 nguyenquocuy yes, make Koha live DVD andCD
19:38 jcamins Wait, what live DVD?
19:37 nguyenquocuy yes. I comes from vietnam. I have just taken a roll in Koha-Live DVD 3.14, and try to understand more about Koha, especially backup and zebra server
19:35 jcamins Yeah, it would be good to add more checking to koha-create and koha-remove.
19:35 nguyenquocuy the " sudo koha-remove {instance}" doesn't work with longinstance name :)
19:33 nguyenquocuy thanks all!
19:33 nguyenquocuy i just don't know how to remove it before, and jcamins told me, remove folder in /etc/koha/sites
19:33 datadoctor Great!
19:33 nguyenquocuy now it's working. When i removed longinstancename, it works.
19:32 datadoctor In other words, how are your search results?
19:32 datadoctor nguyenquocuy, are you able to use zebra at this point?
19:30 nguyenquocuy i saw you lots of time in mailing list :)
19:29 nguyenquocuy hello chris_n
19:28 * chris_n thinks that may be bad english
19:28 nguyenquocuy Oops, yes, when i type koha-rebuild-zebra..., i received "grep: /etc/apache2/sites-available/thhiepthanh3: No such file or directory" and " unable to locate Koha configuration file koha-conf.xml at /usr/share/koha/lib/C4/Context.pm line 360"
19:27 wahanui chris_n: I forgot you
19:27 chris_n wahanui: forget You
19:27 kathryn hello cait :)
19:26 cait good morning kathryn
19:25 jcamins So Zebra was trying to load configuration files that didn't exist.
19:25 jcamins I think.
19:24 jcamins Because it created the directory before configuring everything.
19:24 nguyenquocuy ok, understood. Thanks. And why does zebra server stop working with that?
19:23 jcamins And now you know to use shorter instance names. :)
19:23 jcamins So if you remove the dangling symlink from Apache, you should be back to where you started.
19:23 nguyenquocuy ok, exactly jcamins,
19:23 cait ah
19:23 wahanui You are welcome, I also tried the other - moving js out of translated paths or going to have a dangling file in /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/longinstance
19:23 cait You?
19:23 cait you are?
19:22 jcamins you?
19:22 wahanui okay, jcamins.
19:22 jcamins You are also going to have a dangling file in /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/longinstance
19:21 nguyenquocuy ok, give me 1 min to try
19:21 nguyenquocuy so if i remove that folder, it will dissappear?
19:21 jcamins *at
19:20 jcamins nguyenquocuy: it appears in koha-list because there is a directory in /etc/koha/sites/longinstance
19:20 cait so that would make 9
19:20 cait datadoctor: that's what I was told, and I think it automatically adds _koha or something to your instance name
19:20 nguyenquocuy yes, i know that, but why does it still appears in koha-list, and i can't remove it
19:20 datadoctor In mySQL
19:19 datadoctor The username and password may be limited to 16 characters each.
19:19 nguyenquocuy and the zebraserver stop working with that
19:19 nguyenquocuy problem is, that instance appears in koha-list
19:19 cait and the instances add some prefix to that
19:19 wahanui hmmm... the username is koha_instancename
19:19 cait the username
19:19 cait ah not the password
19:19 cait are you sure?
19:18 nguyenquocuy no, that;s not problem
19:18 cait thy mysql password can't be longer than x letters
19:18 cait ah, I think I know why that is
19:18 nguyenquocuy i installed koha packages on ubuntu, and made some instances. But one instance got long name (>9 letters), KOHA said, can't create...
19:18 cait nguyenquocuy: don't let them confuse you, just ask :)
19:17 datadoctor is a good question
19:17 nguyenquocuy aha
19:17 datadoctor that
19:17 oleonard Because you have not asked a question yet :)
19:17 nguyenquocuy why not?
19:16 oleonard We cannot help you nguyenquocuy. You have not asked a question!
19:15 nguyenquocuy yes, i have a question, please help!
19:15 cait hi nguyenquocuy
19:15 nguyenquocuy i'm joining this for the first time, Oleanard
19:14 oleonard Hi nguyenquocuy
19:14 nguyenquocuy Hi every one
18:42 khall The one should be enough for testing purposes though
18:42 khall I'm afraid not. I'll have to write some!
18:40 oleonard khall: Are there existing reports plugins which work in master?
18:39 huginn 04Bug 9965: enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle.m.hall, Needs Signoff , Improve integration of report plugins with existing reports
18:39 khall oleonard, I think this may be closer to what you are looking for: http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9965
18:01 huginn 04Bug 9964: minor, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Needs Signoff , Add plugins management link to the Administration page
18:01 khall http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9964
17:55 khall heh
17:53 * cait didn's say anything
17:50 cait maybe a puzzle piece
17:50 khall at least that way I don't have to find an icon ; )
17:50 khall cait, ok it sounds like there is precedence set, so I'll go for administration then
17:50 cait not sure I get that
17:49 khall each of those pages have their own set of permissions required for access. Those permissions do not imply nor are implied by the permissions for plugin management
17:49 cait and there is a subpermission for circulation conditions now
17:48 cait funds are on admin too and perm belongs to acquisitions
17:48 cait khall: why?
17:48 khall the problem being both of those require permissions a plugin admin may not have
17:48 cait we could still change it for 3.14 - once we have a better idea how people are using them
17:46 oleonard I would think either tools or admin
17:46 cait right... now they are all hiding
17:46 wahanui oleonard is not really here. He said so. He did!
17:46 cait jcamins: oleonard?
17:45 cait and without you having to change something about the way it works
17:45 cait unti lwe figure it out
17:45 cait I'd really like adminitration best for now I think
17:45 cait so if it was not htere, I think that would be confusing
17:45 cait mainpage mirrors what is in the global navigation
17:45 khall cait, where else?
17:45 cait khall: before you get to work on it - I think I would not like it to be only on mainpage
17:43 khall ok, so I'll add a Plugins link to mainpage.pl for now. I can work with Owen to figure out a nicer way to display the installed plugins later
17:41 khall I'm working on getting them up to speed
17:39 khall CCFLS is still running 3.0ish Koha
17:38 cait or already are
17:38 cait hm some of them look like they should be integrated n existing features/modules
17:38 khall On the reports page, we have room for a 3rd column, so that would be simpler
17:37 khall if we can flow them from one column to the next that would look nice and be more like what you are thinking of
17:37 khall oleonard, I can imagine all the tool plugins having a 'block' under the existing 3 columns
17:36 oleonard So if some of these are things that will get frequent use, how can we incorporate them into the workflow sensibly?
17:36 oleonard I think "plugins" doesn't make much sense from a librarian point of view
17:35 khall oleonard, I had thought of that, but the list could get very long
17:35 khall apologies ; )
17:35 cait stooop :)
17:35 khall Unused Item Barcode Gaps report Lists the ranges of barcodes that have remained unused though barcodes exist later in the sequence. Kyle M Hall 01/27/2009
17:35 khall Shelf List ( For Overdue Items ) report This report generates a shelf list for checking for items accidentally re-shelved without being returned. Kyle M Hall 02/16/2009
17:35 khall Set Item Location tool A utility to set an item's location quickly by scanning barcodes. Kyle M Hall 11/30/2011
17:35 khall Ready Items for Shelving tool A utility to clear temporary location and not for loan status Kyle M Hall 03/08/2011
17:35 oleonard Yeah okay that's enough.
17:35 khall Spine Label Printer (MPL) tool A utility to print spine labels on standard label sheets. Kyle M Hall 03/23/2009
17:35 khall Spine Label Printer (BML) tool A utility to print spine labels on standard label sheets. Kyle M Hall 03/23/2009
17:35 khall Periodicals Generator tool A tool to generate MARC files and label files for periodicals. Kyle M Hall 12/13/2010
17:35 khall Generate Patrons List report Generates a list of patrons matching the given criteria, either in html or csv format. Kyle M Hall 01/27/2009
17:35 khall Patrons by Category report A breakdown of library patrons by category code. Kyle M Hall 01/27/2009
17:35 khall Patrons by Age Group report A report that list patrons by age group Kyle M Hall 01/27/2009
17:35 khall Overdue Notices report This report generates a list of overdue notices based on the supplied information. Kyle M Hall 02/17/2009
17:35 khall Materials by Copyright Date report A report for generating lists of items by copyright date. Kyle M Hall 01/28/2009
17:35 khall Lost Items report A report for generating lists of lost items. Kyle M Hall 01/28/2009
17:35 khall Last Used Item Barcode report Displays the last used item barcode. Kyle M Hall 02/11/2009
17:35 cait :P
17:35 khall Items by Total Circulation report A report for generating lists of items by circulation in a given period of time. Kyle M Hall 01/28/2009
17:35 khall Items by Issues report A report of items by number of issues. Kyle M Hall 01/29/2009
17:35 cait khall is spamming us
17:35 khall Items by Circulation report A report for generating lists of items by circulation in a given period of time. Kyle M Hall 01/28/2009
17:35 khall Items by Category Code with Activity report A report giving the number of catalogued items for each category code, with the number of items which have been issued in the past 12 months. Kyle M Hall 10/24/2011
17:35 khall Items by Category Code report A report giving the number of catalogued items for each category code. Kyle M Hall 06/29/2010
17:35 khall Items by Callnumber Range report A report giving issuing activity over the last 12 months, broken down by category code. Kyle M Hall 02/01/2009
17:35 khall Issues List report A report listing all checkout/renewal activity over a given period of time. Kyle M Hall 07/16/2010
17:35 khall Issues by Item Type report A report giving checkout activity over a given period of time, broken down by item type. Kyle M Hall 02/01/2009
17:35 khall Issues by Category Code ( All Categories ). report A report giving checkout/renewal activity over a given period of time, broken down by category code, including those with 0 issues. Kyle M Hall 06/08/2010
17:35 khall Issues by Category Code report A report giving checkout/renewal activity over a given period of time, broken down by category code. Kyle M Hall 06/08/2010
17:35 khall Issues by Category Code - 12 Month Analysis report A report giving issuing activity over the last 12 months, broken down by category code. Kyle M Hall 02/01/2009
17:35 khall Issues by Callnumber Range - Annual report A report giving issuing activity over the last 12 months, broken down by category code. Kyle M Hall 02/01/2009
17:35 khall Inventory / Stocktaking tool A tool for taking inventory. Kyle M Hall 11/04/2011
17:35 khall Expired Patrons report Generates a list of patrons with expired cards. Kyle M Hall 02/11/2009
17:35 oleonard What I'm thinking now is that we don't have a "plugins list" page for librarians, we just list the plugins themselves under reports and tools. List them by name, maybe in a separate box
17:35 khall Delete Magazines tool A utility to delete magazines in bulk. Kyle M Hall 06/23/2010
17:35 khall Delete Items by Barcode tool A utility to delete items by scanning barcodes. Kyle M Hall 01/27/2009
17:35 khall Daily Report report A daily report that displays useful statistics that vary day to day. Kyle M Hall 01/27/2009
17:35 khall Clubs & Services - Patrons by Municipality report List the number of enrolled patrons by Municipality. Kyle M Hall 08/09/2011
17:35 khall Clubs & Services - Patrons report Lists the patrons enrolled in a club or service, with activity. Kyle M Hall 06/22/2010
17:35 khall Clubs & Services - Members by Items Issued & Data1 report Creates a table of member activity broken down by enrollment data1 and items issued. Kyle M Hall 06/22/2010
17:35 khall Clubs & Services - Active Members report Lists the patrons enrolled in a club or service, broken down by type and active/inactive. Kyle M Hall 06/22/2010
17:35 khall Catalog Card Printer tool A utility to print catalog cards. Kyle M Hall 03/24/2009
17:35 khall Bulk Edit Item Locations tool A utility to edit item locations in bulk. Kyle M Hall 03/08/2011
17:35 khall Acquisitions Report report Acquisitions Report Kyle M Hall 02/24/2011
17:35 khall Access PA report A Report of the data neccessary to fill out the Access PA report form. Kyle M Hall 01/27/2009
17:34 cait jcamins: to make me happier
17:34 khall Examples: Catalog Card generator, Magazine generateor, overdues notice generator
17:34 jcamins cait: what would cookies be used for?
17:34 oleonard khall: Can you name a few plugins and tell me what they do?
17:33 cait and I meant mainpage and global navigation should be the same... (still no cookies)
17:33 khall oleonard, CCFLS is using something like a dozen plugins, but I'll have to rewrite them for the new system.
17:33 cait or about a new page that shows all plugins installed together?
17:33 cait but are we still talking about the configuration page?
17:32 oleonard khall: What are some examples of plugins?
17:32 cait i think more is only a nother display for what can be accessed from global
17:32 khall Ok, so now, should I add it to just mainpage.pl, or to that *and* 'More'?
17:32 khall thanks cait!
17:32 cait you wil lhave to update this one
17:32 cait check the about page
17:32 cait yep
17:31 khall Does anyone know where the images for our mainpage 'buttons' are sourced from?
17:31 cait so did we agree on something now?
17:31 cait to me more is every module that is not circ patrons and search :)
17:31 khall ok.
17:31 jcamins To me, "More" means "this is a duplicate link."
17:31 cait if it is on mainpage, it has to be in global somehow
17:31 jcamins If it's necessary to have it be global, it needs to be somewhere other than More.
17:30 jcamins That would be my preference.
17:30 khall Should we add it to mainpage.pl?
17:30 khall and that's what was removed! ; )
17:30 jcamins And probably get a link on the home page, because in that More menu, links might as well not exist, as far as I'm concerned.
17:30 jcamins Something that anyone with any plugin permissions can see.
17:29 khall jcamins, I see.
17:29 khall it can't go in admin, because the person may not have rights to that, it can't be in tools, because the person may not have rights to that, it can't be in reports because the person may not have rights to that either.
17:29 jcamins khall: I think there needs to be another page added for that link to point to.
17:29 khall so, it still sounds like the plugins link should be added back to the 'more' pulldown
17:28 * cait goes to search the kitchen for some
17:28 * cait wants cookies
17:28 khall If someone has plugins management rights, they see links for configuration and uninstallation
17:27 khall oleonard, both
17:27 khall That's pretty much what the link that was removed did
17:27 oleonard Are plugins used by accessing them directly from one of those lists? Or are they managed from those lists?
17:27 cait where it really makes sense
17:27 cait i think it would all probably depend on he plugin functionality
17:26 jcamins That seems logical to me, but if, in fact, there is a situation where regular librarians need to see all plugins, there needs to be a new page to enable them to do that.
17:26 khall ok, I think I understand
17:26 jcamins Right now, the only page that shows all types of plugins is for administration.
17:25 jcamins khall: nengard just described users wanting to see all the plugins.
17:25 khall jcamins, another page for what?
17:24 jcamins khall: agreed. I'm just thinking for 3.14 maybe there needs to be *another* page.
17:24 cait long term we could handle the administration page like we do with the tools page
17:24 khall it would be silly to force the admin to look in two different places to see what plugins have been installed
17:24 cait hm I think there is a separete permission now for circulation rules
17:23 khall but a plugin administrator will
17:23 jcamins nengard is suggesting a second bug, which is that there is no centralized plugin space that doesn't require administrative privileges.
17:23 khall put it this way, a normal librarian will never see the configuration and installation options, no matter where they look
17:23 jcamins One is that the link should be in administration.
17:22 cait I think reports, tools and configuration part in administration
17:22 nengard_lunch Administration makes sense
17:22 khall ok, I'll submit a patch to add the link to the administration
17:22 jcamins I think perhaps there are two bugs here.
17:22 cait you can only acess that if you are allowed to configure
17:22 oleonard How are plugins a module? Aren't they tools which help operations in other modules?
17:22 jcamins And in that dropdown on the home page they won't get found.
17:22 cait no not access
17:21 nengard_lunch There are Tools Plugins and there are Reports Plugins and there is a new Plugins module that is accessed to access them both
17:21 jcamins Definitely sounds like administration.
17:21 nengard_lunch I too made the mistake I think oleonard is - thinking that Plugins are tools
17:21 cait that sounds administration to me
17:21 cait nengard_lunch: you can only go in there if you can configure them
17:21 nengard_lunch otherwise you have to go to Tools or the Reports specifically to access the plugins
17:21 nengard_lunch I didn't read all the way back - but here's how I see it. Plugins is a module - from the Plugins Module you can access the Tools Plugins and the Reports Plugins
17:21 jcamins I was going through the Tools section all along.
17:21 cait what about.... khall offers a patch moving the link there... oleonard checks if it looks ok, I QA and jcamins pushes? :)
17:20 jcamins I actually was not aware of the link in the global navigation at all when I tested it.
17:20 cait similar enough for me that I woud look there
17:20 khall I think the admin page would be more appropriate and less confusing
17:19 cait below the did you mean plugins
17:19 khall that's what jcamins suggested, I am inclined to agree
17:19 oleonard You could offer more than one link on the tools page for instance
17:19 oleonard I still think this problem needs to be solved in a way other than adding to the global nav
17:19 cait we could put that on the admin page maybe
17:19 cait I am thinking
17:19 cait so the link in the toolbar would be to install/uninstall
17:18 khall right now there are permissions for running reports, running tools, configuring all plugins, and installing/uninstalling all pluggins
17:17 cait i think reports and tools are separate?
17:17 cait khall: how does that work with permissions?
17:17 cait fennel_salad++
17:17 bag yay opening day of baseball!!!
17:16 jcamins Fennel salad is delicious!
17:15 khall This problem will be exacerbated if we add new functionality to the plugins system ( like barcode filtering ). We should definitely have a link that gives access to all the plugins at once
17:13 khall The example plugin shows in both because it is both a tool and a report.
17:13 khall the plugin link on the reports page, and the plugin link on the tools page. Yes, both filter
17:13 oleonard Does the link in tools filter?
17:12 oleonard What two existing links?
17:12 khall It's not that uploading plugins will be a daily affair, but accessing them certainly may be. The two existing links both filter the types of plugins. Removing that link removes the only way to access all plugins at once. If that link was removed, it should have been moved elsewhere instead.
17:10 oleonard khall: In what way are plugins a feature which require repeated day-to-day access? I ask because I honestly don't know.
17:10 * jcamins goes to eat some lunch.
17:09 khall yo
17:09 oleonard khall? nengard_lunch?
17:08 oleonard In what way are plugins a feature which require repeated day-to-day access? I ask because I honestly don't know.
17:07 oleonard Oh no it's there.
17:07 cait I assumed too :(
17:07 cait oh
17:06 oleonard Did I miss the fact that there isn't a link to plugins under 'Tools' ? Maybe I just assumed.
17:05 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9904 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, In Discussion , Link to plugins management should not be in global navigation
17:05 jcamins bug 9904
17:05 cait oleonard: sounds pretty smart to me
17:05 oleonard I don't know enough about how it works to say smart words, but it looks like there's something about the cookie-based session handling that isn't working
16:57 * cait makes a sad face
16:57 jcamins Well, they're not coming from me today.
16:57 jcamins Oh.
16:57 cait I meant hte autocomplete fixing patches :)
16:57 jcamins Where?
16:57 jcamins No idea.
16:55 cait so where are my patches? :P
16:52 jcamins Thanks.
16:51 cait heh
16:51 oleonard jcamins: http://www.googlefight.com/index.php?lang=en_GB&word1=soviet+fatherland&word2=soviet+motherland
16:50 cait jcamins: I am not very soviet sorry
16:50 nengard and then if the patch to put the version in the URL works for the translators I can apply that to all of the help files
16:50 cait oleonard: because now I am not crazy! yay!
16:50 nengard just need a few more sign offs
16:50 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9850 normal, P5 - low, ---, nengard, Needs Signoff , Koha 3.12 Help Files Update
16:50 cait oleonard: but that's great :)
16:50 nengard okay I belive I am done with bug 9850
16:50 jcamins cait: I can't remember.
16:50 oleonard I see the same problems as you if I log in as a regular user with cataloging privileges
16:49 wahanui interesting is sometimes good and sometimes bad
16:49 cait oleonard: interesting
16:49 oleonard cait: Looks like you're right to not test with superlibrarian, because I think that's part of the problem
16:49 cait ??
16:49 jcamins If you were talking about a Soviet talking about the Soviet Union, would they say "Motherland" or "Fatherland"?
16:46 cait not working... hm
16:46 cait and that's working neither
16:46 cait the 260 should not look at my weird authorities
16:46 jcamins But possibly due to the fact that you are trying to get it to autocomplete with the weird data you have.
16:46 cait :)
16:46 * cait didn't put bad input!
16:45 cait benedict von nursia and the like
16:45 jcamins Well- actually, based on the warning, I think it's bad input to the authority search routine.
16:45 datadoctor Could it be something related to the specific bibliographic framework?
16:45 cait got some of the manuscript data
16:45 cait I have lots of saints and medieval names as authorities
16:45 wahanui i guess most likely is not logrotated
16:45 jcamins Most likely.
16:45 cait maybe my weird data strikes again?
16:44 jcamins If we're lucky, the problem is in C4 because I'm familiar with the authorities search code.
16:44 cait http://paste.koha-community.org/450
16:44 cait and that's for autocomplete in 260:
16:44 jcamins Looks like a bug.
16:44 jcamins Hm.
16:42 cait http://paste.koha-community.org/449
16:42 cait I get a bunch of errors when trying to do autocomplete with authorities
16:41 cait ok
16:40 cait meh.
16:40 cait but no suggestions
16:40 cait I get the little wheel
16:40 cait authority plugin
16:40 cait same
16:40 jcamins I don't remember exactly where, though.
16:40 jcamins Yeah.
16:39 cait i think somewhere in authorities?
16:39 cait where else do we have autocomplete?
16:39 jcamins Also, sometimes it works.
16:39 jcamins And it was not something I felt like troubleshooting.
16:39 jcamins I have had intermittant problems with the auto-complete, but I was unable to say conlclusively it didn't work because I use Plack.
16:39 cait could someone else try?
16:38 cait nothing
16:38 cait nope
16:38 cait no
16:37 cait will try
16:37 cait the russian made no sense
16:37 jcamins Does it work pre-patch?
16:37 cait eah
16:37 jcamins Wrong keyboard.
16:37 cait or only wrong keyboard? :)
16:37 cait wrong window?
16:37 jcamins Вщуы ше цщкл зку-зфеÑÑ€,
16:36 cait because our libraries don't get superlibraian and I want to make sure I see what they see
16:36 cait i always use an admin user without superlibrarian
16:36 cait no
16:36 oleonard Are you logging in as a superlibrarian?
16:36 cait same
16:35 cait oleonard: i will try in chromium
16:33 cait I tried it again from cataloguing, still the same
16:33 cait sorry, totally out of ideas
16:32 oleonard Not for me. I wonder if that is part of the problem.
16:31 cait every time i load that link have to log in again
16:31 cait session timed out
16:31 cait loading that page logs me out of koha?
16:31 cait hm weird
16:29 cait is there anything else I can try?
16:28 oleonard Weird, you should get some output even if there are no results
16:27 cait http://localhost:8080/cgi-bin/koha/cataloguing/ysearch.pl?table=biblioitems&field=publishercode&term=Klett
16:27 cait oleonard: gives me nothing but an empy page
16:27 cait oleonard: got the brnach, now checking configuration
16:25 jenkins_koha * Nicole C. Engard: fix typo
16:25 jenkins_koha * Nicole C. Engard: add plugin system
16:25 jenkins_koha Project Koha_Docs build #314: SUCCESS in 1 min 7 sec: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Docs/314/
16:25 jenkins_koha Starting build #314 for job Koha_Docs (previous build: SUCCESS)
16:24 cait so first have to find my branch
16:24 cait ok
16:24 oleonard cait: I was suggesting you check the JSON output of the script directly: /cgi-bin/koha/cataloguing/ysearch.pl?table=biblioitems&field=publishercode&term=Klett
16:23 oleonard Yes
16:23 cait oleonard: i am ready to retest now :) have yo time to guide me? :)
16:21 datadoctor We tend to use a one-interface-resizes-to-fit-all methodology - and tablets get caught in the middle between deskop-size and phone-size.
16:19 jcamins Right.
16:19 oleonard Oh, so if you specify both they work together? "14 days or before 2013-04-30" ?
16:18 datadoctor It is fun to drag items around on a tablet, however device detection is not standardized, so delivering the right content for the right device is difficult.
16:18 jcamins Either.
16:18 oleonard Does "hard due date" work in conjunction with or instead of a set loan period?
16:16 jcamins datadoctor: I actually like the idea of floating things like that on the tablet.
16:15 datadoctor I cut, pasted and colored with GIMP. I was thinking about how tablet users enjoy moving things around, and imagining that all the screen elements could be dragged around. It wouldn't be that hard to "skin" Koha using css backgrounds and style sets. Maybe that will be my next project! :)
16:14 cait there are white holes in koha and some of the other letters :)
16:14 cait or gimp
16:13 * cait thinks photoshop
16:12 jcamins datadoctor: I'm legitimately curious about how you did that. Was that Photoshop, or did you use CSS to make a mockup?
16:10 * cait makes a note about that being bad
16:09 jcamins cait: yes, that's bad. :P
16:09 jcamins Right next to the control.
16:09 maximep also known as option
16:09 maximep what ? isn't there an alt on mac ?
16:08 jcamins datadoctor: yes there is.
16:08 cait jcamins: and that's bad? *hide*
16:08 melia hiya druthb
16:08 datadoctor No Alt key on Mac :(
16:08 * druthb waves to melia
16:07 jcamins maximep: because you will make Mac users want to kill themselves.
16:07 druthb datadoctor++
16:07 datadoctor With a little HTML5 you will be able to completely customize your interface for tablet, as well as adding a pac-man style animated game for slow times in reference.
16:06 maximep why not :S
16:05 jcamins Do not use Alt-arrow keys for previous and next shortcuts.
16:05 jcamins Okay, I have learned something useful.
16:02 druthb Oh, totally! It's a good 'un.
16:02 jcamins Did you do that all with CSS?
16:02 cait we should put that on the blog :P
16:02 druthb Having been tortured by such things a few too many times, I tend to be kind.
16:01 jcamins datadoctor: well-played.
16:01 cait you let him off too easy
16:01 datadoctor How long do I wait before I drop the April fools?
16:01 cait druthb: tsk :)
16:01 jcamins Thanks.
16:01 jcamins lol
16:01 cait datadoctor: great job :)
16:01 * druthb suggests that jcamins look at a calendar.
16:01 jcamins DId I push that?
16:01 jcamins Have I ever seen that before?
16:01 jcamins Ummm...
16:00 datadoctor so colorful...
16:00 jcamins Animated logo?
16:00 datadoctor I'm loving the new Koha user interface for tablets, especially the animated logo: http://screencast.com/t/g6RMlECBrKp
15:54 huginn druthb: Quote #235: "libsysguy: I feel like working on koha is like cooking at the fire station. First one to complain is the next one to cook." (added by wizzyrea at 07:55 PM, March 07, 2013)
15:54 druthb @quote random
15:54 huginn gmcharlt: Quote #7: "Snow_Fox: a rift opens in space the information is shuffled to dev_hyperspace rift then closes" (added by wizzyrea at 03:28 PM, June 18, 2009)
15:54 gmcharlt @quote random
15:43 cait would be so much easier if I had remembered the name instead :)
15:43 * cait thinks her brain is werid
15:43 cait :)
15:43 cait yep
15:42 jcamins NotesBlacklist.
15:42 cait look for 5..
15:42 cait I translated the description
15:42 cait there is one
15:42 cait yep
15:41 jcamins I feel like I saw something like that.
15:41 jcamins Hey, was there a syspref to hide certain fields from the notes box on the OPAC?
15:23 * jcamins pokes back.
15:19 oleonard No hurry. Thanks.
15:18 cait maybe in half an hour?
15:17 cait hm have to finish somethng else first
15:17 oleonard cait: Maybe check the JSON output of the script directly? /cgi-bin/koha/cataloguing/ysearch.pl?table=biblioitems&field=publishercode&term=Klett
15:14 cait altohugh i made sure those are in the database
15:14 cait it just never suggests anything
15:14 cait i type letter by letter and after x it shows the little search symbol at the end
15:14 cait the popup pops up
15:14 cait ep
15:14 cait it just won't autocomplete for me
15:14 oleonard I guess the plugin must be tied to the right field because you're able to trigger the popup...
15:14 cait i was afraid it was only me
15:13 cait oleonard: :(
15:13 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8278 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED , Replace YUI autocomplete in UNIMARC 210c plugin
15:13 oleonard cait, I'm not sure what is going wrong for you with Bug 8278
15:11 druthb Two fine things, best enjoyed separately.
15:11 datadoctor <chuckle>
15:10 druthb I would suppose, too, that vodka-infused peeps are also a bad idea.
15:10 datadoctor FYI: Peeps-infused vodka is a really bad idea.
15:10 * druthb is bleary-eyed
15:00 oleonard Last night must have been crazy. #koha is totally hung over today.
13:57 chris_n it will be later in the week before I can munge up a patch due to scheduling
13:57 cait no plenty of time for bug fixes
13:57 cait ah :)
13:57 chris_n cait: only wondering because I've lost track of where the release cycle is
13:36 cait i looked at your comment but was not sure if I should try and make a patch, was hoping someone else might so I get to test it )
13:35 cait why were you wondering if ti could go in?
13:35 chris_n and its super-simple to fix to boot
13:33 cait and this is def a bug :)
13:33 cait we are only in feature freeze
13:33 cait bug fixes can go in
13:32 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9535 major, P5 - low, ---, cnighswonger, ASSIGNED , Patron card creator "Remove duplicates" function doesn't work
13:32 chris_n well; I was going to query him as to the chances of getting the bug 9535 fix in 3.12
13:30 cait chris_n: I think he just left
13:30 * chris_n pokes jcamins
12:42 talljoy heh
12:41 druthb Off-and-on chance of rain in the evenings all week here. It's the monsoon season, apparently.
12:41 talljoy nice
12:40 druthb Overcast and light fog now, expecting sun later.
12:40 druthb Rained here yesterday afternoon, and overnight some.
12:40 talljoy rainy? or just that humid?
12:40 huginn druthb: The current temperature in Briargrove Park, Houston, Texas is 16.9°C (7:35 AM CDT on April 01, 2013). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 93%. Dew Point: 16.0°C. Pressure: 30.00 in 1016 hPa (Rising).
12:40 druthb @wunder 77063
12:39 talljoy hi druthb!
12:39 * druthb waves to nengard and talljoy
12:37 druthb Hi, cait!
12:37 cait hi nengard and druthb
12:32 nengard hiya all
12:18 cait hi oleonard :)
12:18 oleonard Hi #koha
10:46 longrider 4Ok
10:46 cait we once had hat wth another ils
10:46 cait but i am not quite sure if there are not programs now that can do it
10:46 cait you don't need to no
10:46 longrider 4Is it like that If I use circ desk I do not need to use SIP?
10:45 cait not sure where you are located, but maybe there is a library nearby that could help you
10:45 cait and as I said, i think asking your questions on the mialing list would be a good idea
10:45 cait before you start figuring it out with Koha
10:45 cait but you will have to do some more research aobut how rfid works
10:45 longrider 4My vendor is not helping me
10:44 cait longrider, I already tried helping you
10:44 longrider 4Please help me.
10:44 longrider 4Hey cait
10:42 longrider Please tell me If you Know.
10:42 longrider Is it like that If I use circ desk I do not need to use SIP?
10:40 longrider Is SIP only works with self check machine?
10:38 longrider Another question I have to clear.
10:37 longrider ?
10:37 longrider What type of information I have to write in RFID tag.
10:36 cait the audience ther eis much bigger than here
10:36 cait or ask on the mailing list if someone has the same equipment
10:36 cait you should really work with your vendor
10:36 cait i can't
10:36 longrider Please tell me.
10:36 longrider What type of software I needed for this.
10:35 cait but i don't know anything about the software you got
10:35 cait i told you what we do
10:35 cait i am not sure I can help you more
10:34 longrider At present I can only doing activate the tag and deactivate the with the demo software.
10:33 cait and describe what kind of integration you want to do and what you got
10:33 cait maybe try the mailing list
10:33 cait vendors are different
10:32 cait so you place your cursor in the field for scanning the barcodes and then according to the key the books are .. sanitized or desanitized (and I probably spelled that wrong again)
10:32 longrider the did not provided me like that.
10:32 longrider No
10:31 cait and f6 checked in
10:31 cait so when they place books on the reader and press f5 or similar, the books are checked out
10:31 longrider my vendor only provided me SDK and a demo software.
10:31 cait that works with keyboar shortcuts
10:31 cait what some of our libraries do is using a small software from their vendor
10:30 cait you should really talk to your vendor about options
10:30 cait at the circ desk sip probably won't work
10:30 longrider I can connect koha with sip.
10:30 cait then you won't need sip
10:30 cait ah
10:29 longrider I have not self check machine
10:28 longrider I have reader at the circ desk.
10:28 longrider How can in connect RFID with SIP2 server.?
10:28 cait are you using a self check machine or a reader at the circ desk?
10:27 longrider my RFID supplier only provided me workstation driver
10:27 cait koha supports sip2
10:27 cait yes
10:26 longrider I have to integrate RFID with koha.
10:25 cait yes
10:25 longrider hello cait are you here?
10:25 longrider yah
10:14 cait in europe
10:14 cait it's easter holiday
10:14 cait h longrider - probably not going to get crowded in here today
10:03 longrider is anybody here?
10:03 longrider HI
09:24 Oak oh i get it
09:24 Oak cool
09:24 cait was visiting his grandfather yesterday
09:24 Oak :)
09:24 cait hehe he is fine
09:24 Oak how is marcus?
09:23 Oak hey cait
09:23 cait hey Oak
09:23 * Oak waves
07:22 cait hi #koha
04:52 longrider anyone
04:27 longrider Do you have any Idea regarding this.
04:26 longrider Hey wahanui
04:26 longrider Is there any open source SIP source SIP Elumator?
04:25 longrider I do not have SIP Elumator which connect SIP with RFID
04:24 longrider I found SIP server in koha.
04:23 longrider How can I do that?
04:23 longrider I have to integrate RFID with koha
04:22 longrider I have question regarding RFID With koha.
04:22 longrider Anybody is here?
04:21 wahanui bonjour, longrider
04:21 longrider HI
02:29 Dalian1 Great. For now I will keep this answer but maybe I will be bakc on this issue later. Thank you ; )
02:19 jcamins (at least one)
02:19 jcamins Ah- one thing. You have to suppress one record *before* turning on the syspref.
02:18 jcamins You set the syspref, and then you mark the records suppressed in field 852.
02:18 jcamins It's very straightforward.
02:16 jcamins Dalian1: yes. Look up OPACSuppress in the manual.
02:14 Dalian1 Hi, can we hide titles from OPAC ? we have textbooks we need to put them in the system in order to be able to make the check-out, check-in. Make reports for overdue textbooks, etc. These textbooks shouldnt appear in OPAC search.
00:20 jcamins Now for double-chocolate mint.
00:20 jcamins Ginger-wasabi cookies are done.