Time Nick Message 23:34 melia no, but I will now! :) 23:33 bgkriegel Have you looked at logs? 23:29 melia anybody have any ideas for other things I should check? 23:28 melia I know editing items works fine on other 3.8.8 systems, and I have compared sys prefs and frameworks, but everything looks pretty much the same. 23:28 melia I have a strange problem on a 3.8.8 system where I can't edit existing items. I go to edit item, I make some changes, click save changes. but my changes don't save, and I can't figure out why. 22:56 cait night :) 22:51 cait hope you get some answers :) 22:50 bgkriegel :) 22:50 bgkriegel hi tcohen 22:50 tcohen hi bgkriegel 22:50 tcohen i'm just typing it :-D 22:50 bgkriegel tcohen: an email to koha-devel? 22:48 cait I can try to take a look too - but maybe not tonight :) 22:47 tcohen np, this bug can wait anyway 22:46 cait tcohen: it's kinda late here - maybe put in discussion and try asking around on irc for opinions? 22:44 tcohen if we have an expected workflow defined, any of the approaches its easy to implement 22:43 cait but best would maybe be a catalogers opinion 22:43 cait but it would keep the code a bit more modular i guess 22:43 cait like it would be good to add it to the default frameworks 22:42 cait I think i like the idea of a plugin a little bit better, but that has other consequences too 22:42 tcohen i don't favour any workflow btw 22:40 tcohen paul argues that it should be done onLeave, and provide a button for moving the invalid ISBN to $z (which is suggested in the error message right now) 22:39 tcohen I added a syspref controlling whether to check or not, and (as other checks) is validated on save action 22:38 cait the in discussion status is a bit dangerious 22:38 tcohen yeap, the main problem is the workflow for invalid ISBN 22:38 cait maybe - but try to ask some people to take a look 22:38 cait hm difficult one 22:38 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=906 enhancement, P2, ---, tomascohen, Failed QA , ISBN Check 22:37 cait bug 906 22:37 tcohen cait: should I mark 906 as "In discussion"? 22:19 bag oh hey hankbank 22:12 huginn cait: The operation succeeded. 22:12 cait @later tell wizzyrea - could you maybe take a look at 8918? 21:52 cait yeah, looks expensive :) 21:51 bag and I was wondering if he's been - but it's probably way too expensive 21:51 bag Henry lives there 21:51 bag heh 21:51 cait bag: now I am hungry :) 21:42 huginn bag: The operation succeeded. 21:42 bag @later tell hankbank http://www.opinionatedaboutdining.com/2013/top100us-6.html 20:51 * druthb_mib heads home 20:50 cait would be my guess, also probably well supported by lots of applications 20:49 cait I think sip2 has probably been around longest so most widely used? 20:48 jeff another followup -- is there any versioning on the APIs, or are they just stable by happenstance? 20:48 cait authenticate against ldap first I mean before trying local? if you don't have passwords in Koha? 20:48 cait will any of the api we have for authentication take that into account? 20:48 jeff also, are koha libs using ezproxy via any authentication method other than SIP2, or mostly just doing ezproxy <-> koha via SIP2? 20:48 cait I was wondering, when you use koha with ldap 20:47 cait yeah, now that you mention it... 20:47 jcamins I think. 20:47 jcamins cait: yeah, rangi did that. 20:47 cait I will have to take a look at that then :) 20:47 cait oh authentication too? 20:47 jcamins Cataloging, authentication, and reports, basically. 20:47 jcamins Yes. 20:47 jeff would that be accurate? 20:46 jeff and the svc api supports a specific subset of koha functionality, with a priority on specific needs 20:46 jcamins /svc and /opac/svc 20:45 jeff got it. 20:45 * druthb_mib might swipe some bits of that for her YAPC preso, if you don't mind, cait. 20:45 cait i was referring to the svc thing yes 20:45 jcamins That's the svc API. 20:45 jeff re-phrased, if i wanted to look at the code for said RESTful API, which perl module would I examine. :-) 20:45 jeff "RESTful API" -- is this referencing how the staff web interface operates, or should i look elsewhere? 20:44 cait that was my presentation for german library conference 2 weeks ago 20:43 * druthb_mib enjoys cait's slides, pumping a few words and phrases at Google Translate. 20:42 jeff okay, i missed ldap/cas/persona. 20:42 jcamins Yeah, and the report web server offers JSON. 20:42 cait well i told them i probably forgot some :) 20:42 jcamins cait: oh, yeah. 20:42 cait missing json tho 20:41 jeff thanks :-) 20:41 jeff jcamins++ 20:41 jeff cait++ 20:39 jcamins jeff: ^^ 20:38 cait [off] http://swop.bsz-bw.de/volltexte/2013/1072/ 20:37 cait sec 20:37 cait oh 20:37 jcamins You had a nice slide on APIs supported by Koha. 20:37 jcamins cait: where are the slides you put together on Koha? 20:31 cait thank you :) 20:31 wizzyrea cait - thanks :) 20:30 wahanui hi, eythian_ 20:30 eythian_ hi 20:29 cait morning eythian 20:24 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9745 trivial, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Signed Off , Don't nuke translated permissions with changes introduced in bug 9382 20:24 cait bug 9745 20:24 * cait is testing bu g9745 20:23 wizzyrea heya 20:23 druthb_mib hi, wizzyrea ! :) 20:23 wizzyrea hello hello 20:23 cait :) 20:23 cait hi wizzyrea 20:23 wizzyrea later :) 20:23 wizzyrea have a lovely evening 20:23 oleonard Bye! 20:23 wizzyrea hehehe 20:22 oleonard It's nothing personal :) 20:22 wizzyrea nooo! 20:22 oleonard wizzyrea is here, must be time for me to go home! 20:01 cait good luck rangi 20:00 * rangi will have a look later, gotta go get ready for a presentation now 19:50 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6506 critical, P5 - low, ---, peterAtKohaBugzilla, NEW , deleting patron history missing errors 19:50 another_peter my technical plan for fixing bug 6506 is now on there as a comment - this is my first perl change to koha, so I may not be understanding the normal approach, so feel free to critique 19:43 bag so true 19:43 bag HA 19:43 cait you yeah - I totally prefer the cold too 19:42 cait guess it was my turn - seems everyone got one :) 19:42 bag I guess I'd trade what I had for that :) 19:42 bag oh noes you got a cold? 19:42 cait fighting off a cold, but looks like I am winning 19:42 bag oh right :P time zone fail by me 19:42 cait not that late yet - 8:30 pm 19:42 bag Hey Cait - how you doing… late there isn't it? 19:41 rangi https://www.linode.com/ <-- tcohen linode 512, another_peter's idea is good i can bump it up to the 1gb and it will be perfect 19:41 cait heya bag *wave* 19:41 jeff well, openncip never spoke ncip, afaik. now it's called SIPServer, talks SIP2, and is begging to be joined with its long lost cousin C4::SIP ;-) 19:41 bag cool thanks edveal - I sent him a private message too :P 19:40 tcohen rangi, what are the specs of the bz server? 19:40 rangi but im not 100% on that 19:39 rangi jeff: dollars for donuts its screen scraping 19:39 edveal bag rambutan was just looking for me. But he is not responding right now. 19:39 jeff i can try and ask the vendor, but is anyone here aware of how boopsie (the mobile app vendor) integrates with koha? screen scraping, other? 19:39 rangi there was opennicp back in the day, but things (we wont go into it ;)) killed that project 19:39 bag rambutan: you around? 19:38 rangi not really jeff, not that i know off 19:38 jeff is anyone doing NCIP work with Koha (especially NCIP DCB3 for integration with regional resource sharing ILL systems)? 19:38 cait rangi: pm? :) 19:38 rangi jeff: or make a nice html5/firefoxOS app :) 19:37 edveal hey rambutan what's up? 19:36 rangi you can now get that as json, and display on your OPAC however you want 19:36 jeff new books, popular books, on-order... yep! 19:36 rangi jeff: also, list of new books 19:36 rangi exactly 19:36 jeff rangi: do you have any real-world examples of how people are using the report-as-json bit? it seems incredibly useful and multi-purpose. library dashboard immediately comes to mind. 19:35 cait right that one :) 19:35 rangi and oclc connexion 19:35 cait I think 19:35 rangi ahh yeah, the staff svc 19:35 cait it's also used for integrating that worlcat software... 19:35 rangi its only since 3.10.x 19:35 jeff rangi++ 19:35 jeff also useful. i didn't know about that bit. 19:35 huginn rambutan: edveal was last seen in #koha 1 week, 5 days, 23 hours, 22 minutes, and 28 seconds ago: <edveal> Yes sorry 19:35 rambutan @seen edveal 19:34 jeff rangi: thanks! i had forgotten about the marcedit integration! 19:34 rangi and in opac/svc/ there is report which will give you json output of any report you write in koha, and mark as public 19:34 jeff context: i'm thinking on (in advance of talking on) APIs and integration points for Evergreen and seeking additional examples and points of future collaboration with Koha 19:34 rangi thats how marcedit talks to koha (via svc/ on the staff side) 19:33 rangi in both the opac and intranet 19:33 rangi jeff: the svc/ dir 19:33 rangi yep 19:33 jeff i suppose some things may simply scrape the koha web interface, too. 19:33 rangi another_peter: oh good idea 19:32 jeff i was pestering jcamins earlier via msg with something along these lines, but when people here think "koha API" or more generally "points at which koha integrates with other things", I've got the following things in a list: SIP2, ILS-DI, SRU/Z39.50, OAI-PMH... should I be looking at other things? 19:32 another_peter i see $20/month in value in increasing the server size, so catalyst would be happy to contribute that towards your personal linode hosting costs (assuming moving from the 512 to the 1024 will do it) 19:32 rangi http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Website_Administration 19:32 another_peter perhaps phrase like this then - 19:31 rangi ill have a chat with don, we try to spread stuff around lots, not hosted by any one organisation/person .. after what happened last time 19:30 rangi yep 19:30 rangi (its my one server (well one of them)) 19:30 another_peter rangi: obviously if you wanted, catalyst could host it instead 19:29 rangi https://www.linode.com/ im on the linode 512 plan 19:29 rangi i can see that it would be useful 19:28 cait I never missed google searching it 19:28 another_peter rangi: please advise what you need, i'll try and arrange it 19:28 rangi but yeah its tuned very tightly and swap death is just a google index away :) 19:28 rangi for 512MB its doing pertty good, runs the dashboard, bugzilla and a couple of bots 19:27 rangi morning 19:27 cait morning rangi 19:27 cait poor bugzilla 19:27 rangi last time i let it, it pounded the poor thing to death 19:26 rangi yeah its running on my linode, if someone wants to give me more money, ill up the ram on it and let google see it again :-) 19:25 another_peter oleonard: mostly because i think that people should be able to google for koha related issues and find the bugzilla entry 19:25 cait :) 19:25 oleonard ...and he does it out of the goodness of his heart 19:24 cait rangi is running that 19:24 cait not sure it's intentional but maybe reducing load 19:24 oleonard another_peter: Because you can't find what you're looking for through Bugzilla's search? 19:23 another_peter IMHO the bugzilla being not googleable seems retrograde. i assume this is to reduce load and traffic costs? 19:12 kathryn I should really make gnome open automatically :) 19:11 cait starting work early :) 19:11 kathryn hiya cait 19:11 cait morning kathryn :) 19:11 cait anitsirk++ btw too 19:09 cait another_peter: I like fixing bugs too :) all the other things tend to get in the way tho 19:07 * druthb_mib squees happily 19:06 rambutan that would be a promotion? 19:05 another_peter then i would be able to fix koha in my work time :) 19:04 another_peter If I fix another 10 bugs, I am thinking of asking Catalyst for a promotion from project manager from junior developer :) 19:03 cait and thank you for working on this :) 19:01 cait maybe make it 2 to ease testing 19:01 another_peter cait: should the fact that history is not deleted on return be fixed on the same bug, or a different bug, than the inability for a user to delete their history backlog? 18:58 cait but maybe take a look at the tabs on the about page 18:58 cait another_peter: can't check master right now myself... my database think sit's 3.0.6 something :) 18:58 cait maybe we shoudl also note those problems there 18:57 cait there is a section for problems on the about page 18:57 oleonard It's a good thing no one here wants to use the autoMemberNum preference because our db is so full of junk card numbers it would return ridiculous results 18:57 cait you can't expect circ staff to be able to fix it 18:57 cait difficult 18:57 cait hm 18:57 another_peter quite so. now, how about the case that they have their history set to "never keep", and the error occurs during a return? 18:56 cait wasn't too far off.. 18:55 cait hehe :) 18:55 another_peter which is essentially your sentence nativespeakerised 18:55 another_peter OK, going with: "The deletion for your reading history failed, because there is a problem with the configuration of this feature. Please help to fix the system by informing your library of this error." 18:54 cait The deletion for your reading history failed, because there is a problem with the configuration of this feature. Please help to fix it and inform your library about this error? 18:54 another_peter it is very early in the morning to be nice. 18:53 cait I am not a native speaker tho :) 18:53 cait hm maybe a bit nicer? :) 18:53 another_peter cait: "The deletion of your reading history failed, because the system's privacy module is configured incorrectly. Please notify a librarian of this error." 18:52 cait sorry for missing it :) 18:52 cait oh 18:51 mtompset Still an okay attempt. :P 18:50 oleonard Oh no that was movement, not sound. Jurassic Park reference. 18:50 cait oleonard: ? 18:49 oleonard Oh my god, huginn is a Tyrannosaurus! 18:49 another_peter which seems like something that we might do automatically for 500 errors... 18:49 oleonard I guess huginn doesn't see you if you don't talk 18:48 huginn oleonard: edveal was last seen in #koha 1 week, 5 days, 22 hours, 36 minutes, and 2 seconds ago: <edveal> Yes sorry 18:48 oleonard @seen edveal 18:48 cait yeah, maybe we should phrase the error so that the user is encouraged to contact the library? 18:48 huginn rambutan: I have not seen eveal. 18:48 rambutan @seen eveal 18:47 another_peter (ah, he has gone already.) 18:47 another_peter jcamins: thanks. the reason i thought it might be otherwise is that this is something the administrator has to set, not the user. 18:47 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6506 critical, P5 - low, ---, peterAtKohaBugzilla, NEW , deleting patron history missing errors 18:47 another_peter err, bug 6506 18:47 another_peter big 6506 18:46 cait I seem to remember I filed something about that sometime... hm. 18:46 cait another_peter: which bug number is that? 18:46 * jcamins leaves to catch the bus. 18:46 cait ah right 18:46 * another_peter goes in search of the bugzilla 18:46 jcamins On-screen error block. 18:46 cait not sure what you want to do - can you explain a bit more? 18:46 another_peter this is for the case where the administrator has not set a proper anonymous user 18:45 another_peter does this mean an on-screen error block, or an HTTP 500, or a Carp? 18:45 another_peter I also am looking for guidance about what is the desirable way of failing noisily in the context of the opac privacy module. 18:44 another_peter it is a strategy to leave the house and run to a cafe before the three children begin the daily bedlam 18:44 another_peter hi cait 18:44 cait you are up early 18:43 cait hi another_peter :) 18:42 rambutan ah, ic, thanks. (for some of us old unixers man is the go-to command) 18:41 cait ^^ what tcohen said :) 18:41 tcohen rebuild_zebra.pl --help 18:41 cait ? 18:41 rambutan idle question: is there no man page for rebuild_zebra? it's ungoogleable 18:36 cait oleonard++ 18:36 cait marcelr++ 18:28 * druthb_mib heads to a meeting. 18:27 tcohen ah,no, they chose RPM 18:27 tcohen LSB for all 18:22 mtompset Why can't everyone just agree on a single packaging method? It would make life easier for the children. :) 18:22 mtompset And don't get me started on the wrongness of zypper. 18:21 mtompset Having jumped back and forth between using yum and apt-get... I initially thought I preferred yum, but apt-get seems more right. 18:21 tcohen just kidding, just kodding 18:21 mtompset Oh please! 18:21 tcohen heh 18:20 tcohen the CentOS - OpenSuSE lover 18:20 tcohen hi mtompset 18:20 druthb_mib hi, mtompset! :) 18:20 mtompset BTW, greetings, cait, tcohen, jcamins, druthb_mib, and oleonard in completely random order. :) 18:12 druthb_mib :) 18:10 cait jcamins++ for building things i can break ;) 18:10 mtompset cait++ # just because you test things. :) 18:09 mtompset But the same logic applies, have the tester bust it, or a client who may or may not be able to fix it. 18:09 jcamins It's not Koha in this case, but testing is definitely good. 18:08 druthb_mib "generally awesome?" Nay. "Awesomely awesome!" 18:08 mtompset Testing is always good. 18:08 mtompset Which is worse, you breaking it, or some newbie user of Koha? 18:08 jcamins And cait is generally awesome and deserves karma. 18:07 cait I just tested something for jcamins and broke it 18:05 cait hmpf? 18:05 * druthb_mib drags cait out of hiding. 18:04 druthb_mib yuss. 1400EasternUS/1300Central. 18:04 * cait hides 18:04 jcamins The latter. 18:04 oleonard Did I miss something? Or is it just that time of day that we regularly acknowledge that cait is awesome? 18:02 druthb_mib cait++ 18:02 jcamins cait++ 17:59 gaetan_B bye ! 17:30 cait hi jcamins 17:30 rambutan jsut finished 17:30 jcamins rambutan: did you reindex? 17:18 oleonard Oh well, no big deal. 17:18 cait checking right now too, don't see anything 17:18 oleonard Yeah, nothing jumped out at me 17:15 cait have you checked the misc etc. ? 17:14 cait haven't run into something like that yet 17:14 cait hm 17:13 oleonard Is there a batch biblio export command line script which has more features than the staff client tool? 16:54 mtompset Greetings, #koha. 16:15 reiveune bye 16:07 melia hi druthb_mib! 16:05 druthb_mib hi, melia. :) 16:05 melia hello cait 16:05 cait hi melia and druthb_ 16:04 druthb_mib :D :D 15:59 * cait waves 15:58 oleonard Some bugs we visit every year if only to say, "You're still an awesome bug! We haven't forgotten you!" 15:40 rambutan since our upgrade to 3.10, we have been unable to search authorities. Any suggestions? 15:39 rambutan oh, hunnin, sorry 15:39 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9889 major, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, RESOLVED INVALID, Cannot get any results in Authority searches 15:39 wahanui rambutan: excuse me? 15:39 rambutan wahanui: wake up buddy! Do tell me about bug 9889 15:31 bag hey Ruth 15:31 * druthb_mib waves at bag 15:30 wahanui morning is a state of cat 15:30 bag morning 15:14 gmcharlt oleonard: seems reasonable (with comment saying *why* a bug was set to WONTFIX) 14:59 oleonard Should we close as WONTFIX bugs which are specific to 3.4.x? 14:57 oleonard I ask questions first and @later later :) 14:57 rambutan much better, methinks, than asking questions and @seens later ?? 14:56 wahanui i already had it that way, huginn. 14:56 huginn druthb_mib: Quote #50: "<pianohackr|work> It is a landmine, I tell you" (added by a user that is no longer registered at 04:44 PM, December 23, 2009) 14:56 druthb_mib @quote random 14:56 * druthb_mib chuckles. 14:55 oleonard rambutan always @seens first and asks questions later ;) 14:54 huginn rambutan: jcamins was last seen in #koha 13 minutes and 53 seconds ago: <jcamins> That makes two of us. 14:54 rambutan @seen jcamins 14:54 huginn rambutan: I have not seen jcammins. 14:54 rambutan @seen jcammins 14:52 druthb_mib :) 14:51 oleonard I'm good. 14:51 druthb_mib How are ya? 14:50 * druthb_mib grins at oleonard. 14:48 oleonard Hey druthb_mib 14:44 druthb_mib o/ 14:40 jcamins That makes two of us. 14:40 oleonard No idea 14:40 jcamins oleonard: right, but don't I have to make a statistical patron default? 14:39 oleonard A statistical patron category? 14:39 jcamins I could've sworn there was a syspref something like "StatisticalPatron," but apparently not. 14:38 jcamins Okay... silly question... where do I set the statistical patron? 14:25 alaquerre Let me keep thinking about it :-) THanks for your input always appreciate it! 14:24 jcamins That could work. 14:23 alaquerre "Something wrong - What you want to do ?" with couple of generic action. We will end up forcing the full review A- H 14:22 alaquerre Maybe we should always let the user do the proper "action"... Mark as lost or whatever and force the user to skip it... 14:21 alaquerre THen let the user do he's job to replace it. 14:21 alaquerre We will have "Alert : Scan should be B, H is at the wrong place." 14:20 jcamins And that's why I think it would be very difficult. 14:20 jcamins When you scan in book H, the computer doesn't know whether the order is A H B or A H I 14:19 jcamins In scenario 3, they're shelved: A H B C D E F G 14:19 jcamins Book B is missing, but that's okay, because we've marked it. 14:19 jcamins In scenario 2, they're shelved: A C D E F G H 14:19 jcamins Everything is good. 14:19 jcamins In scenario 1, they're shelved: A B C D E F G H 14:18 jcamins Actually, A-H. 14:18 alaquerre You will know that the misshelfved book is at the wrong place... 14:18 jcamins Here's the scenario I'm thinking of. We have books A-Z. 14:18 alaquerre I would act only with the previous 14:18 jcamins If you skip ahead when books are missing, won't those forty books get marked as missing? 14:17 jcamins Okay, what if one book is misshelved one shelf above where it belongs, so there are forty books that should have been scanned first? 14:17 alaquerre So the logic is to find "hole" and for those "hole" adding something for later work... 14:16 alaquerre Yes 14:16 alaquerre Adding automatically a note to the items "Item missing while inventory" or somgthing like that. 14:16 jcamins It gets marked as seen, and the inventory tool jumps ahead to that book? 14:16 jcamins Right, but what happens to the book that was just scanned? 14:15 alaquerre Just alert the user that is currently doing the inventory. 14:15 jcamins So all the books are in the right order, but one book is missing. 14:15 jcamins Sadly, I think you are. If something is missing, what happens? 14:13 alaquerre Am I missing something ? 14:13 alaquerre Why's that ? :-) Let's say the sort is perfect... I was thinking reusing the "shelf browser" in opac and display the document while the user scan them. ( just gray out the lost, borrow one etc. ) 14:11 jcamins I think it would be incredibly useful, and incredibly difficult. 14:11 alaquerre I'll keep thinking about it. ( the sorting) but what do you think of of module that will alert the user when he scan a "wrong document" ? 14:08 jcamins That would almost certainly have to be a local modification, though, because the system would have to know all your shelflisting peculiarities. 14:08 jcamins I think probably the way to do it would be to make cn_sort editable within certain parameters. 14:07 alaquerre jcamins : currently the process of printing a document is hard for my community... most of them did not do any inventory for the last 2 years... 14:06 jcamins That would be very cool. 14:05 alaquerre jcamins : My real idea : I would like that user from the library literally "ran" in shelf by just scanning codebar and if a document is misplaced, missing having a loud BEEP :-) To do that, I need a "perfect" sort... 14:05 jcamins (and part numbers) 14:03 jcamins alaquerre: my initial instinct is that what you want can probably be accomplished using location and collection codes in addition to call numbers. 14:03 nengard :) 14:02 jcamins nengard++ 14:01 alaquerre I am currently imagining another column in Koha where the user would be able to "place" the document at the right place and overright the default cn_sort so we can get: "C180 1234 780", "180 1234 780-1","c180 1234 781" etc. What do you think of the idea ? 14:01 alaquerre Hi all. Question for you. We currently have big problem using inventory system. Mainly because user do not nessary use the "perfect LCC" or the "perfect dewee". Example : In canada, they put "C" in front of the canadian document and we end up having all the "C" at the same place which is wrong. 14:00 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9850 critical, P5 - low, ---, nengard, Needs Signoff , Koha 3.12 Help Files Update 14:00 nengard fyi all - my focus this week is getting the help files done bug 9850 has the patches so far 13:17 oleonard tcohen: I don't mind if you want to file an enhancement bug and assign it to me 13:16 tcohen yes 13:16 tcohen ahhh, that should've been the wording 13:16 oleonard tcohen: You're asking if marc_subfield_structure.tt can get the floating toolbar too? 13:11 oleonard Hi cait 13:09 jcamins Always a good idea to do a three-way merge. 13:09 jcamins -i3 13:08 samuel ok 13:08 jcamins samuel: no. You use git am -i /path/to/file 13:07 samuel not for the moment, but, manually, i have to do this "patch < /path/to/file "? 13:06 oleonard samuel: You have a git installation for testing, and you want to apply a patch? 13:04 samuel short question:as it's the first time for me to do that and, in waiting to have a git install, how can i apply a patch? 13:03 tcohen heh, on the marc editor the "save" button + bar is available at the bottom of the page 13:03 samuel hi everybody 13:02 oleonard tcohen: I don't know what you mean by that 13:02 oleonard jcamins: where "t" means "the table is here" (relative to the other elements in that string) 13:01 tcohen oleonard: will marc_subfield_structure.tt get fancy as the marc editor? 13:01 oleonard Yes 13:01 jcamins 'sDom': 't<"bottom pager"ilpf>' <-- maybe 13:01 jcamins Right. 13:00 jcamins Oh. 13:00 oleonard That changes the kind of pagination buttons, but not where they appear 12:59 jcamins sPaginationType: 'four_button' 12:58 oleonard The QoTD has tons of customizations on it 12:58 oleonard I don't know off the top of my head, I'd have to check the docs. 12:58 jcamins I just noticed that the QoTD editor has a different set of controls. 12:58 jcamins oleonard: how do we get the datatables controls all on the bottom? 12:42 oleonard Hi #koha 08:34 asaurat thx 08:34 asaurat aaaah :) 08:33 sophie_m \o/ 08:33 mtj asaurat++ 08:33 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7241 normal, P5 - low, ---, adrien.saurat, Pushed to Master , circulation action logs record biblionumber instead of item number 08:33 mtj wooh, bug 7241 pushed 08:25 tzm bye 4 now tk care all, 08:22 gaetan_B hello 08:16 tzm ok 08:10 mtj tzn, not many people here are running a Koha version that old… so, not many people can help you 08:08 mtj tzm, afaik that has been removed from Koha ^^ 08:00 tzm but i deviated from my qn :<tzm>: what does UNT (UNIT) mean? <tzm>: does it just mean in which UNIT the patron has designation DESIGNATION 07:57 cjh tzm: im not sure how much koha has changed since 3.2.x, but in current master compared to a package install we have: http://pastebin.com/wRWqUrd3 not sure how helpful that is. 07:56 tzm ok <cjh>: 07:55 francharb good morning #koha 07:53 cjh tzm: that depends where and how koha is installed, it will probably be a case of taking each directory withing /usr/share/koha/ and cping it over to the appropriate place within the git tree. 07:51 rangi you should at least fix that problem in your 3.2.6 07:51 rangi no im just showing the security problem 3.2.11 is still very old 07:50 tzm is it the latest stable version that u suggest, rangi 07:47 rangi http://koha-community.org/koha-3-2-11/ 07:47 tzm from which directory should i copy my koha files to the tree<cjh> 07:46 rangi that doesnt change that fact :) 07:46 wahanui niihau, reiveune 07:46 reiveune hello 07:45 rangi ok 07:45 tzm i am running koha in debian linux 6 07:45 tzm oh 07:44 rangi there are security problems with 3.2.6 07:43 cjh you could clone the git repo, check out v3.02.00, copy over your files into the tree, and the git status would tell you what files have changed. 07:41 tzm c u after lunch 07:41 tzm loggin out. 07:40 tzm because iam afraid i will loose the changes i have made to the code. 07:40 tzm i am continuing with my current version 07:37 mtj http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Version_Control_Using_Git 07:37 tzm and upgrade later 07:36 tzm only 07:36 tzm any method to track changed files? 07:36 tzm i cant upgrade as i have made so many changes ,difficulkt to track, where 07:35 mtj tzm, woah, thats very old 07:35 tzm 3.02.06.000 07:34 tzm koha 3.0.2 07:34 tzm out for lunch.. 07:34 rangi what version of koha are you using? 07:34 tzm does it just mean in which UNIT the patron has designation DESIGNATION 07:30 tzm what does UNT (UNIT) mean? 07:29 tzm Again in Add Academic Staff patron - In Additional attributes and identifiers 07:28 tzm i have aother doubt 07:28 tzm ok gr8 07:27 mtj … use sort1 and sort2 07:27 mtj yes, if you want to track some important info about your patrons, but have nowhere to track that info…. 07:27 tzm but anywhere in koha is there any statistical analysis, where as it claims can be used 07:26 tzm it can be used for taking reports 07:26 tzm yes i get the idea 07:25 mtj but hey… you get the idea tzm 07:24 mtj then you could run a report on your patrons - to see how many fat or skinny customers you have :) 07:24 tzm :) 07:23 mtj no, sorry - just kidding! :p 07:23 mtj tzm, 'FAT_PERSON' or 'SKINNY_PERSON' perhaps… ? 07:23 tzm ok thank u all 07:22 mtj if you cant think of anything important to add to those fields, then just ignore them :) 07:22 christophe_c hello #koha 07:22 tzm any example? 07:22 mtj yes, thats the one! :) 07:22 rangi they are optional you cna use them for statistical purposes, put things in them that you might want to report on later 07:22 mtj i think you can add anything you want to them, basically 07:21 mtj ...anyone else know? 07:21 mtj sorry, i dont know what to input into sort 1 and 2 fields... 07:20 mtj hmm, yeah, thats not a great explaination for those fields 07:19 tzm I dont know for what statistical purposes is it used and where is it used 07:18 tzm what should i enter in the field 07:18 tzm Sort 1 and 2 are used for statistical purposes within your library 07:18 tzm it says: 07:16 mtj it explains it there, i think 07:16 mtj tzm, have you have a look Koha's manual yet? 07:16 wahanui manual is probably at http://www.koha-community.org/documentation 07:16 mtj manual? 07:10 tzm hi what is the meaning of sort1 and sort 2 fiels in Add Academic Staff patron>Library management 07:09 mtj hi tzm 07:01 tzm hi 07:00 tzm hi 07:00 alohabot Hi mib_2m66bl, Welcome to #koha. 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If you need any help, just ask - there's usually someone around to help :) 05:15 mtj i dont remember that being so previously? :/ 05:15 mtj ive got 2 here, that are both using 17% cpu… doing nothing 05:14 mtj is it common for the plackup processes(s) to use some cpu when idle? 05:13 mtj hmm, a random plack question here… 05:11 mtj (at 6pm NZ time, shes probably not) 05:09 mtj wizzyrea, about tonite? 03:07 eythian_ always a bonus :) 03:04 wizzyrea and it works too. that's lovely 03:03 * jcamins goes to bed. 03:03 jcamins Feel free to sign off. :) 02:56 wizzyrea someday. 02:55 * wizzyrea makes a note to actually hug tcohen 02:55 wizzyrea it's just as pretty irl as it is in the screencap. 02:55 wizzyrea omg love love love that. 02:52 wizzyrea and it reeeallly simplifies the help file 02:52 jcamins "No one can figure out what the hell is supposed to go in 'hidden.'" 02:52 wizzyrea me too. 02:52 jcamins I'd be willing to call that a bugfix. 02:52 wizzyrea seriously serious! 02:52 wizzyrea the old way was seriously suck. 02:52 wizzyrea oh god, seriously tcohen++ 02:51 jcamins tcohen++ 02:40 tcohen bye #koha 02:25 tcohen at least our users will enjoy it 02:24 tcohen heh, so I did it with some jQuery 02:24 tcohen i promised to fix it in a proper way, but jcamins told me 'for 3.14' 02:24 eythian_ yay for that, the old way sucks 02:23 tcohen i learned jquery today, doing this http://i.imgur.com/r6DHZjq.png 02:16 wizzyrea you are welcome :) 02:16 vald_tmj Thanks so much - this was quite helpful for now. 02:15 tcohen sorry vald_tmj, was talking to wizzyrea 02:14 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9735 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Signed Off , Choose language using URL parameters in any page 02:14 wizzyrea bug 9735 02:14 vald_tmj I'm not sure what you mean by 9735. 02:13 tcohen (that's why 9735 should be pushed actually :-P) 02:12 tcohen it needs a referrer 02:09 wizzyrea users meaning, parties who care enough to get involved to translate 02:09 wizzyrea users translate koha 02:09 rangi http://translate.koha-community.org/ 02:08 vald_tmj Do the schools do the translations themselves or is there a Koha representative who translates information? 02:08 rangi http://lins.koha-tw.org/ try it just like that then :) 02:08 wizzyrea hm that is doing something odd with redirects 02:07 rangi for a demo 02:07 rangi http://lins.koha-tw.org/cgi-bin/koha/changelanguage.pl?language=zh-Hans-TW 02:06 wizzyrea sorry! 02:06 wizzyrea lol 02:06 wizzyrea yes that 02:06 rangi http://koha.wikispaces.com/ even :) 02:06 wizzyrea thttp://koha.wikispaces.com/ 02:05 wizzyrea http://koha-community.org/support/paid-support/continent/#asia 02:05 rangi http://trac.koha-tw.org/ 02:05 vald_tmj Can you provide me with more information? 02:05 rangi not in mainland china that i know of, but in taiwan 02:05 rangi yes 02:04 vald_tmj 3) We are a school in China. Are there companies in China that offer Koha support in Asia in Chinese and English? 02:03 wizzyrea :) 02:03 wizzyrea ayep - the answer to "is there someone to help" is definitely "yes" 02:03 vald_tmj Ok, what I meant by "you" is if there is information available or someone available to help us if/when we need it. Thanks for the above mentioned information regarding support companies. 02:02 wizzyrea also there's a manual :P 02:02 wizzyrea :) 02:01 wahanui please see http://koha-community.org/support/paid-support/ for a list of paid Koha support vendors. 02:01 wizzyrea paid support? 02:01 rangi you are currently talking in the project irc channel, so it could be any of a bunch of people :-) 02:01 rangi Koha is of course a free and open source software project, and is not owned by any one company/organisation .. so when you say "would you" we need to know who you mean when you say you :-) 02:01 wizzyrea http://manual.koha-community.org/3.10/en/tools.html#patronimport 02:00 wizzyrea http://manual.koha-community.org/3.10/en/implementation.html#imp-migration 02:00 rangi im sure if you wanted to pay one of the many support companies to walk you throw it step by step one of them would 02:00 vald_tmj 2) Would you like to see the data from our systems we are currently using? 01:59 vald_tmj I have a few more questions, 1) What kind of instruction is there available with Koha regarding the transfer of data? Do you walk us through it, send us step by step instruction? 01:58 wizzyrea athena shouldn't be a big problem 01:57 vald_tmj Yes we can get both systems out in a tab delimitetd. 01:56 rangi so no binary mess, but some kind of consistently delimited text format, and then you can get it in 01:56 rangi you have to get the data out in a sane format, or there is no hope 01:55 rangi if you cant get the data out, then there's no way to get it in :-) 01:54 vald_tmj What are our options if we can't? 01:51 vald_tmj I'll do some checking and will get back to you in a few minutes. 01:50 eythian_ hi 01:49 * wizzyrea waves to eythian 01:49 wizzyrea or some delimited format? 01:49 wizzyrea from TESS 01:49 wizzyrea can you get the data out in CSV? 01:48 vald_tmj Hi there, I'm wondering if it's possible to transfer data from our current systems which are Athena and TESS student information systems? Is it going to be difficult to transfer our student information to your system?