Time  Nick          Message
00:06 jenkins_koha  Project Koha_master build #1118: STILL UNSTABLE in 1 hr 9 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/1118/
00:21 rangi         hmm
00:22 rangi         fixed the XISBN one
00:23 rangi         not sure what is up with the itemtypes (Koha.t)
00:23 jcamins       Ugh.
00:23 rangi         must be something in the db
00:24 jenkins_koha  Starting build #1119 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #1088 3 days 19 hr ago)
00:24 rangi         Failed test 'getitemtypeinfo on "opac" interface returns opac imageurl'
00:24 rangi         #   at t/db_dependent/Koha.t line 67.
00:24 rangi         #                   ''
00:24 rangi         #     doesn't match '(?-xism:opac-tmpl)'
00:28 rangi         like ( getitemtypeinfo('BK', 'opac')->{'imageurl'}, qr/opac-tmpl/, 'getitemtypeinfo on "opac" interface returns opac imageurl' );
00:28 rangi         ill check that in the db
00:30 rangi         fixed
00:30 rangi         by adding a BK
00:31 rangi         to be fair, that is in the sample itemtypes file
00:32 jcamins       Sorry, I must have given you the wrong backup.
00:32 jcamins       I foolishly did not date them.
00:37 rangi         ah its ok, seems to be all good now
00:54 rangi         wizzyrea: you could git bisect to make sure it is that patch that breaks things
01:06 wizzyrea      well it's not broken in the commit directly before that one. heh.
01:08 jcamins       A) isn't it Sunday?
01:09 wizzyrea      yep.
01:09 jcamins       B) wasn't that pushed six months ago?
01:09 wizzyrea      yep.
01:33 jenkins_koha  Yippie, build fixed!
01:33 jenkins_koha  Project Koha_master build #1119: FIXED in 1 hr 9 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/1119/
01:33 wizzyrea      confetti!
01:33 wahanui       o/ '`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`
01:36 rangi         yay!
02:15 huginn        New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 7339] Help System in IE8 Does Not Load With 500 Error <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7339> / [Bug 6875] de-nesting C4 packages <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6875> / [Bug 6536] Z3950 Enhancements: SRU targets, MARC conversion, additional XSLT processing <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6536> / [Bug 7127] Templates must be valid XHTML <
02:18 jcamins       Ummm...
02:18 jcamins       huh?
02:18 jcamins       Where did that come from?
02:29 wizzyrea      odd
02:32 jcamins       Just thirty patches away from committer #6!
02:37 wizzyrea      aiee!
07:28 drojf         good morning #koha
07:29 rangi         hi drojf
07:30 drojf         [off] i wish you had considered that people want to use the cheapest hosting to run koha :P
07:30 drojf         hi rangi :)
07:43 rangi         [off] too mean?
07:43 * cait        waves
07:43 rangi         hi cait
07:43 cait          hi rangi :)
07:43 rangi         @wunder konstanz
07:43 huginn        rangi: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 0.1°C (8:40 AM CET on March 24, 2013). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 79%. Dew Point: -3.0°C. Windchill: 0.0°C. Pressure: 29.74 in 1007 hPa (Steady).
07:44 rangi         cold for you
07:45 cait          @wunder Marseille
07:45 huginn        cait: The current temperature in Marseille, France is 11.0°C (8:30 AM CET on March 24, 2013). Conditions: Rain. Humidity: 88%. Dew Point: 9.0°C. Pressure: 29.56 in 1001 hPa (Steady).
07:45 cait          *le sigh*
07:45 rangi         heh
07:46 cait          @wunder Wellington
07:46 huginn        cait: Error: No such location could be found.
07:46 rangi         @wunder nzwn
07:46 huginn        rangi: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 17.0°C (8:00 PM NZDT on March 24, 2013). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 72%. Dew Point: 12.0°C. Pressure: 30.24 in 1024 hPa (Steady).
07:46 rangi         its sticky
07:46 another_peter cold down in fiordland too.  a newbie question - how do I get an appropriate config accessible to run the tests?
07:46 another_peter i have a working gitifed install now ...
07:46 another_peter and can log in etc.
07:47 another_peter I read http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Unit_Tests which gave me some basic info
07:48 another_peter asking creates clarity
07:48 another_peter I now see this is a foolish question and the answer is hopefully under by nose
07:48 another_peter apologies :-/.
07:49 drojf         hi cait, back home?
07:49 cait          yep
07:49 cait          another_peter: sorry, I am not sure I unerstand what you want to do
07:50 another_peter cait - thanks, but that's ok, I hope my question is on its way to obsolescence
07:51 rangi         another_peter: i do
07:51 rangi         export KOHA_CONF=/etc/koha/sites/persona/koha-conf.xml
07:51 rangi         where persona is one of my test instances
07:52 rangi         then prove t
07:52 another_peter thanks, that's where I was heading.  Just fighting permissions.
07:52 rangi         ah yep
07:52 rangi         you can do
07:52 another_peter I was trying to add myself to the relevant group to avoid 666
07:52 another_peter s/was/am/
07:53 rangi         sudo -u persona-koha KOHA_CONF=/etc/koha/sites/persona/koha-conf.xml prove t
07:54 rangi         or yep, groups
07:54 another_peter adding myself to the group of the instance seems to have worked, thanks
07:54 rangi         drojf: heh, we answered much the same thing to that email
07:54 drojf         rangi: yeah i just saw that :D
07:56 another_peter Is there any protocol around newbies like me editing the wiki, e.g. to make the testing page more idiot-friendly?
07:57 drojf         rangi: looking forward to those patches :)
07:57 cait          another_peter: just edit away and try not to make it more complicated :)
07:57 drojf         another_peter: you won't be a noob anymore when your wiki account is finally created :P
07:58 drojf         (does that work ok now manually?)
07:59 drojf         another_peter: and write something useful into the change comment
07:59 rangi         yeah thats pretty much it, go for it, you cant do anything that can't be reverted ;-)
08:00 another_peter drojf: i just signed in with Google Accounts, and the creation seemed to happen in real time...
08:00 another_peter OK, thanks for the encouragement all.
08:00 rangi         yep, openid is real time
08:00 drojf         ah, cool
08:00 rangi         if you sign up with the form, its moderated
08:00 rangi         that seems to stop 99.9% of the spam
08:01 drojf         yay!
08:02 cait          I was wondering about walking through bugs for jared for the release note
08:02 cait          s
08:02 another_peter rangi: for the wiki, any objection to me using the group membership method rather than the sudo method ?
08:02 cait          but I am not quite sure which things the script picks up
08:03 another_peter rangi: i suppose it may not work for the database tests, on reflection, will test more before I change anything.
08:04 cait          bug 9915 is a nice one
08:04 huginn        04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9915 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Needs Signoff , Allow opac/svc/report to be passed sql parameters
08:04 rangi         yeah but needs to wait for 3.14 cait
08:04 * cait        sniffs
08:04 cait          ... I know.
08:20 cait          hm bug 9191
08:20 huginn        04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9191 enhancement, P1 - high, ---, jcamins, Pushed to Master , updatedatabase.pl must have ability to run updates only up to a particular revision
08:21 cait          is that still in master or got it reverted with the updatedatabase things?
08:21 cait          ah no, I think it#s separate
08:22 cait          bug 9162 - feature?
08:22 huginn        04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9162 enhancement, P1 - high, ---, vfernandes, Pushed to Master , Add a system preference to set which notes fields appears on title notes/description separator
08:25 cait          how strict do we define new feature?
08:25 rangi         i think thats an enhancement
08:25 rangi         its extending an existing one
08:25 cait          hm
08:27 cait          so new features = new modules?
08:27 cait          so this is an enhancement too: bug 9206
08:27 huginn        04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9206 enhancement, P1 - high, ---, vfernandes, Pushed to Master , Only allow place holds in records that the patron don't have in his possession
08:27 rangi         not nessecarily new modules
08:27 rangi         id say thats a feature
08:30 cait          people feel free to undo my changes :)
08:30 rangi         the first one is changing notes that show, ie notes already showed, its just picking with, the 2nd one is a whole new behaviour
08:31 cait          ah all the yui things show up in single bugs
08:31 cait          enh.
08:31 cait          datatables? enh?
08:31 rangi         hmm i think so
08:31 cait          good
08:31 cait          bug 7973
08:31 huginn        04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7973 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Pushed to Master , Allow for new type of LDAP authentication
08:31 cait          new feature?
08:36 rangi         could go either way
08:36 rangi         lets say yes
08:38 cait          editing issuingrules  - enh.
08:38 rangi         yeah
08:39 rangi         a good one though
08:39 cait          yep
08:39 cait          very good one
08:40 cait          bug 9417 is a nice one too
08:40 huginn        04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9417 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Pushed to Master , Allow number of results per page to be selectable for guided reports
08:41 cait          bug 4906 - new behaviour = new feature?
08:41 huginn        04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=4906 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Pushed to Master , Allow fine calculation to exclude grace period
08:42 cait          hm should we make the main bug for bootstrap a new feature?
08:43 cait          bug 9420
08:43 huginn        04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9420 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Work on Bootstrap for Koha
08:45 rangi         hmm
08:45 rangi         yeah maybe
08:47 cait          i have shared the search
08:47 cait          I wonder if more enh are hiding in the bug lists
08:47 cait          the name is feature/enh
08:47 rangi         hm
08:49 cait          ah right
08:49 cait          9151
08:49 cait          bug 9151
08:49 huginn        04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9151 blocker, P1 - high, ---, vfernandes, Pushed to Master , Renewal notice according to patron alert preferences
08:49 cait          sending rneewal notices is a new fature
08:51 cait          hm some of the new prefs are marked as bugs
08:51 cait          like bug 9341 and bug 9145
08:51 huginn        04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9341 major, P1 - high, ---, vfernandes, Pushed to Master , Problem with UNIMARC authors facets
08:51 huginn        04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9145 major, P1 - high, ---, vfernandes, Pushed to Stable , Authorities: standard language for UNIMARC
08:51 rangi         yeah not all new prefs will be features/enhancements
08:57 cait          i woud like to make those enh:
08:57 cait          bug 9659
08:57 wahanui       bug 9659 is, like, signed off :)
08:57 huginn        04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9659 normal, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Failed QA , Undefined authorised value category yields empty dropdown menu on SQL reports
08:57 cait          hm
08:57 cait          wrong number sorry
08:57 cait          bug 9695
08:57 huginn        04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9695 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Stable , Use alphabet system preference on page used to browse patrons for patron card batches
08:58 cait          this one
08:58 wahanui       rumour has it this one is cool as long as someone *wants* acknowledgement
08:58 rangi         hmm
08:58 rangi         i think if i pushed it to stable, i wont have thought it was a feature
08:58 cait          no? bug 9353 is my next candidate
08:58 huginn        04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9353 minor, P5 - low, ---, bgkriegel, Pushed to Master , Missing subfields on MARC21 frameworks
08:59 cait          rangi: hm I can follow you there :)
08:59 cait          what about bug 9382?
08:59 huginn        04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9382 trivial, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Pushed to Stable , Bold necessary permissions for staff client access.
08:59 rangi         yeah bug fix
09:00 cait          ah
09:00 cait          ok
09:02 cait          ok I am done
09:03 rangi         :)
09:03 cait          ah
09:03 cait          I was only loking for master
09:03 cait          I found 18 more in 3.12
09:04 cait          does the script take those?
09:04 cait          bug 7919 is an example
09:04 huginn        04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7919 critical, P1 - high, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , Display of values depending on the connexion library (authorised values, patron categories, extended attributes)
09:05 rangi         yep
09:05 rangi         what it does is look at the commits
09:05 rangi         then find the bugs
09:05 rangi         which is why a bug number in the commit is so important
09:05 cait          bug 8377 - feature? :)
09:05 huginn        04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8377 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, mirko, Pushed to Master , Show HTML5 video/ audio for media files in OPAC and staff client
09:06 rangi         definitely
09:06 cait          hm nclinded to see 8715 as a feature too - but you might disagree
09:06 cait          bug 8715
09:06 huginn        04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8715 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , Select all serials for a year
09:07 cait          bug 7189 and bug 8733 are my other candidates
09:07 huginn        04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7189 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle.m.hall, Pushed to Master , preference to control if returning lost items gives refund
09:07 rangi         i wouldnt argue
09:07 huginn        04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8733 new feature, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Pushed to Master , Adding critic reviews to book pages
09:07 rangi         oh, yeah those are features
09:07 cait          hm leaving the serials one
09:08 cait          after reading description some more
09:08 cait          ok
09:08 cait          so now I am really done for now
09:09 cait          @later tell jcamins I reviewed enhancements and features for master and 3.12 - I shared a list for that too. Some are a bit hard to define - maybe someone else can take a look.
09:09 huginn        cait: The operation succeeded.
13:58 jcamins       cait: thanks! I'm not inclined to fuss too much about drawing the line.
13:58 cait          good morning jcamins
13:58 cait          :)
13:59 cait          Ifelt like doing something fun this morning
14:01 jcamins       :)
14:14 jcamins       There is a coupon for $1 off three packages of frozen vegetables.
14:15 jcamins       The vegetables are currently on sale for $1/package.
14:15 jcamins       Which brings the cost for those three to $0.66/package.
14:15 jcamins       :)
14:16 cait          wow
14:16 cait          wht kinds of vegetables?
14:18 jcamins       Spinach and broccoli.
14:19 jcamins       This makes the first time I have ever seen a coupon for anything useful.
14:24 cait          :)
19:33 gmcharlt      @quote random
19:33 huginn        gmcharlt: Quote #5: "<jwagner> Why is it every Koha rock I turn over produces a zillion (metaphorical) ants, each with anew question????" (added by kf at 01:13 PM, June 12, 2009)
19:33 cait          hi gmcharlt
19:34 gmcharlt      hi cait
19:34 cait          :)
19:34 rangi         morning
19:34 cait          morning rangi
19:34 rangi         @quote random
19:34 huginn        rangi: Quote #96: "< owen> If your vendor calls it KOHA you know it's not really Koha." (added by wasabi at 05:56 AM, October 08, 2010)
19:45 rangi         new developer eh? cool
19:45 rangi         Rolando Isidoro
19:48 jcamins       Yep.
21:28 wizzyrea      kinda neat how bibliocommons does lists: http://jocolibrary.bibliocommons.com/list/show/73977058_carletonb/162066901_my_husbands_favorite_books
21:29 cait          hey wizzyrea
21:29 wahanui       wizzyrea is a Cylon, and they all have plans.
21:29 ibeardslee    heh
21:29 wizzyrea      it's true.
21:29 wahanui       I saw it on Digg!
21:30 wizzyrea      all kinds of snappy responses today, eh wahanui
21:30 wizzyrea      hi cait :)
21:39 eythian       hi
21:43 eythian       people hosting git should read this: http://jefferai.org/2013/03/24/too-perfect-a-mirror/
22:00 cait          good night all :)
22:43 tcohen        hi jcamins
22:43 tcohen        has anyone read the news about the KDE git repo?
22:43 tcohen        http://jefferai.org/2013/03/24/too-perfect-a-mirror/
22:44 rangi         hehe yep
22:44 rangi         10:40 < eythian> people hosting git should read this:  http://jefferai.org/2013/03/24/too-perfect-a-mirror/
22:44 rangi         beat ya by an hour :)
22:45 ibeardslee    very ouch
22:45 tcohen        oh, damn eythian
22:45 tcohen        heh
22:45 eythian       he is a terrible person.
22:46 tcohen        what i wanted to note is i run git fsck on our git
22:46 tcohen        (on my own copy of course)
22:46 tcohen        and it found seceveral dangling stuff
22:46 rangi         lucky im too lazy and have totally imperfect mirrors running
22:46 eythian       dangling is normal though, I think
22:47 eythian       it's just commits with no branch
22:47 eythian       I expect I have tonnes of them
22:47 eythian       well, actually a gc ran recently and probably cleaned them up.
22:47 eythian       (at least, I assume that's what fsck means by dangling)
22:48 tcohen        i'm sure it relates to that
22:48 tcohen        the question, do we have backups of git.koha-community.org repositories?
22:49 rangi         yup
22:51 * tcohen      breathes normally now
22:54 * wizzyrea    is having trouble with breathing - KU is playing UNC
22:55 wizzyrea      it's tied! >.<
22:57 eythian       Kuwait airways vs. Ungía airport? that's a strange combination.
22:58 wizzyrea      let's try that again.
22:58 wizzyrea      university of kansas is playing the university of north carolina in the NCAA tournament. In Kansas City (100km or so from Lawrence, where I'm from)
22:58 tcohen        NCAA?
22:59 wizzyrea      National College Athletics Association :)
22:59 eythian       maybe it's a hand-egg thing
22:59 wizzyrea      basketball
22:59 wizzyrea      smarties.
22:59 tcohen        college basketball
22:59 wizzyrea      yep
23:01 tcohen        bye #koha
23:01 eythian       later