Time  Nick         Message
00:01 bgkriegel    not here, but in the list :)
00:11 wizzyrea     so so exciting
00:13 cjh          wizzyrea: how was your first lamington?
00:13 gmcharlt     lamington?
00:13 cjh          gmcharlt: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lamington
00:14 wizzyrea     quite delicious!
00:14 cjh          sponge cake + icing
00:14 wizzyrea     it's a very odd looking thing
00:14 wizzyrea     plus coconut
00:14 gmcharlt     that looks very delicious indeed
00:14 wizzyrea     it's like completely furry cake.
00:14 wizzyrea     mine wasn't cream filled :)
00:15 wizzyrea     oh it's australian origin
00:15 eythian      you cut them in half, add cream to one side and jam to the other, and put them back together again.
00:15 eythian      then eat them
00:15 * wizzyrea   dies from the nomminess
00:16 wizzyrea     weird, popular in cleveland ohio for many decades, called "coconut bars"
00:16 wizzyrea     the things wikipedia knows. the mind boggles.
00:16 cjh          heh, the obvious name..
00:16 wizzyrea     yes, literal american is literal.
00:17 wizzyrea     literal american is literal
00:17 wizzyrea     literal american?
00:17 wizzyrea     hm.
00:17 cjh          wahanui: literal american is literal
00:17 wahanui      ...but literal american is literal....
00:17 wizzyrea     lol
00:17 cjh          heh
00:17 cjh          wahanui: literal american?
00:17 wizzyrea     oh right literal is a reserved word.
00:17 wahanui      cjh: i don't know
00:17 * Dyrcona    just had some lemon-lime cake.
00:17 wizzyrea     also yum :)
00:17 gmcharlt     literal Americans REPRESENT! ;)
00:18 * gmcharlt   had some green cheesecake for St. Patrick's Day
00:19 wizzyrea     http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pavlova_%28food%29 < if you really want something that is kiwi.
00:20 gmcharlt     yum
00:20 * gmcharlt   wanders off to prepare for anti-date night, wherein we do our taxes
00:20 bgkriegel    Q: MARC21 886, it's supposed to have 2ab(NR) then [0-9](R) and [a-z](R)? (http://www.loc.gov/marc/bibliographic/concise/bd886.html)
00:22 gmcharlt     bgkriegel: looks like $2$a in all cases, then $b if the original field was a fixed-width control field
00:22 gmcharlt     otherwise, the rest of the subfields are transcribed from the original field
00:22 gmcharlt     hmm... not quite sure I like how that overloads $b
00:24 bgkriegel    in the framework we have al subs repeatable
00:24 gmcharlt     yeah, I think that's the best that the framework can do without adding additional logic
00:24 bgkriegel    ok
00:25 gmcharlt     and that's probably sufficient ... the 886 strikes me as the sort of field that one uses only when (a) you have to and (b) you know exactly what you're doing and (c) you keep your eyes closed and hope that the MARC-to-MARC conversion comes out right! ;)
00:26 bgkriegel    :)
00:47 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #1085: SUCCESS in 1 hr 8 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/1085/
00:47 jenkins_koha Jared Camins-Esakov: Bug 9843: Include OpenILS directory in Perl lib directory
00:47 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9843 blocker, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Pushed to Master , OpenILS/QueryParser.pm not (always) installed when installing from tarball
01:15 eythian      wahanui: windows is a pretty good Wine emulator.
01:15 wahanui      ...but windows is a poor fit for free software like Koha. Some of the thing's we use heavily are not easily available at the moment. No-one's funded Koha 3.x for Windows and I'm not sure who'd be willing to work on it. You are probably best off using a liveCD for testing, then commissioning a GNU/Linux server....
01:16 eythian      wahanui: windows is also a pretty good Wine emulator.
01:16 wahanui      okay, eythian.
01:24 jcamins      rangi: could you please update the database on jenkins?
01:25 rangi        will do
01:26 rangi        hmm ran the updatedatabase and it didnt want to do anything
01:27 rangi        maybe i already did?
01:28 jcamins      It might not have finished pushing when I asked you to.
01:28 jcamins      I *just* pushed to master.
01:29 rangi        ahh
01:29 rangi        it will kick off in hmm 4 mins then
01:29 rangi        it checks git every 15 mins
01:30 huginn       New commit(s) kohagit: Merge branch 'bug_7440' into 3.12-master <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=fb8aa63f9d9f56bf80ffab7b6e45b8cadb66ddf4> / Bug 7440: Increment version number <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=99efce6e902e29bc0260faa0ea9cdb4d46b8ebd0> / Bug 7440 follow-up removing forgotten NoZebra references <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=66b5b75d2ca
01:30 * rangi      takes the opportunity to upgrade jenkins
01:32 rangi        yay, below 100 in the sign off queue!
01:33 jcamins      Hooray!
01:34 wizzyrea     confetti!
01:34 wizzyrea     confetti!
01:34 wahanui      '`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'
01:34 wizzyrea     yess.
01:36 jcamins      The language switcher doesn't work with Plack.
01:36 jcamins      I'd forgotten about this.
01:37 jcamins      Does anyone feel like doing a quick additional test of bug 9731?
01:37 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9731 normal, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Passed QA , Remove changelanguage.pl in favor of (already present) opac-changelanguage.pl
01:38 wizzyrea     bug 5544 - I can see needing one more case
01:38 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5544 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle.m.hall, Needs Signoff , All Notices from Branch Email Address
01:38 wizzyrea     lending library's branch email address
01:38 jenkins_koha Starting build #1086 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS)
01:39 rangi        jcamins: ill test 9731 now
01:44 wizzyrea     oleonard has been marking things failed that don't have test plans right?
01:44 rangi        yep
01:45 rangi        jcamins: works for me, im now running in german
01:45 rangi        and back
01:45 rangi        want another sign off on the patch?
01:49 jcamins      Yes please.
01:49 jcamins      Thanks.
01:49 jcamins      wizzyrea: yes.
01:50 rangi        will do
01:51 rangi        done
01:52 cjh          I love how active it gets leading up to a release :)
01:53 jcamins      Thanks.
02:06 jcamins      What part of "do not put follow-ups on already-pushed bugs" is hard to understand?
02:06 rangi        i suspect probably people just didnt hear/read that
02:06 eythian      can you make a note appear explaining that on pushed bugs?
02:08 rangi        hmm dunno
02:08 rangi        ill look into that
02:09 jenkins_koha Starting build #30 for job Koha_Docs_3.8.x (previous build: SUCCESS)
02:09 jenkins_koha Starting build #304 for job Koha_Docs (previous build: SUCCESS)
02:10 jenkins_koha Project Koha_Docs_3.8.x build #30: SUCCESS in 1 min 12 sec: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Docs_3.8.x/30/
02:10 jenkins_koha Nicole C. Engard: add pattern for Backpacker (0277-867X)
02:10 jenkins_koha Project Koha_Docs build #304: SUCCESS in 1 min 15 sec: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Docs/304/
02:10 jenkins_koha * Nicole C. Engard: add pattern for Backpacker (0277-867X)
02:10 jenkins_koha * Nicole C. Engard: add new overdue report permission
02:10 jenkins_koha * Nicole C. Engard: add PatronSelfRegistrationAdditionalInstructions
02:10 jenkins_koha * Nicole C. Engard: add FinesIncludeGracePeriod
02:10 jenkins_koha * Nicole C. Engard: add UNIMARCAuthorityField100
02:10 jenkins_koha * Nicole C. Engard: add TrackClicks
02:10 jenkins_koha * Nicole C. Engard: add persona login
02:10 jenkins_koha * Nicole C. Engard: update acquisitions images
02:10 jenkins_koha * Nicole C. Engard: more acquisitions image updates
02:10 jenkins_koha * Nicole C. Engard: acq image updates
02:10 jenkins_koha * Nicole C. Engard: add new acq image
02:10 jenkins_koha * Nicole C. Engard: add info on child funds
02:10 jenkins_koha * Nicole C. Engard: make it clearer how to order from suggestions
02:10 jenkins_koha Starting build #34 for job Koha_Docs_3.10.x (previous build: SUCCESS)
02:10 jenkins_koha Project Koha_Docs_3.10.x build #34: SUCCESS in 23 sec: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Docs_3.10.x/34/
02:10 jenkins_koha * Nicole C. Engard: add pattern for Backpacker (0277-867X)
02:10 jenkins_koha * Nicole C. Engard: add info on child funds
02:10 jenkins_koha * Nicole C. Engard: make it clearer how to order from suggestions
02:14 rangi        that was just jenkins catching up, i hadnt noticed the slave (my machine at home) wasnt online
02:16 * jcamins    grouses about unit tests and lacks thereof.
02:27 rangi        bug 9103 ?
02:27 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9103 major, P5 - low, ---, fridolyn.somers, Failed QA , overdue_notices.pl should use AutoEmailPrimaryAddress syspref
02:27 jcamins      Yes.
02:27 jcamins      I don't see any unit test for this new routine.
02:27 rangi        right
02:27 tcohen       may the force be with you guys
02:28 rangi        thanks tcohen
02:34 tcohen       this one is for you guys: http://grooveshark.com/s/Good+Riddance+Time+Of+Your+Life/fW21p?src=5 :-D
02:41 rangi        jcamins: ive added a test as a followup, what should i set the status to?
02:42 jcamins      Is it possible to set Koha to renew books from *today's* date?
02:42 jcamins      It is, right?
02:42 jcamins      Yes.
02:42 jcamins      RenewalPeriodBase.
02:42 wahanui      renewalperiodbase is broken generally
02:43 jcamins      rangi: set it to signed off, and I'll take a look, and, most likely, pass it and push it.
02:43 rangi        righto
02:43 rangi        it's a tiny patch
02:43 jcamins      That's what I figure.
02:44 jcamins      Should be nice and simple, but very important.
02:44 rangi        yup
02:45 rangi        it also is now testing GetFirstValidEmailAddress
02:45 jcamins      Excellent!
02:45 jcamins      rangi++
02:45 rangi        so now instead of that feature decreasing coverage it will increase it
02:46 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #1086: SUCCESS in 1 hr 7 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/1086/
02:46 jenkins_koha * Magnus Enger: Bug 9256 - Fix search for the packages
02:46 jenkins_koha * Vitor FERNANDES: Bug 9341: Problem with UNIMARC authors facets
02:46 jenkins_koha * Jared Camins-Esakov: Bug 9341: Increment version number
02:46 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9256 critical, P5 - low, ---, magnus, Pushed to Master , Search is broken for 3.10 package-installs when marcflavour != marc21
02:46 jenkins_koha * Colin Campbell: Bug 9727: Fix typo in variable name
02:46 jenkins_koha * Owen Leonard: Bug 9813 - Update About page with license information about Bootstrap and jQuery
02:46 jenkins_koha * Magnus Enger: Bug 9841 - Improve the link from the "logged in as mysql-user"-warning
02:46 jenkins_koha * Fridolyn SOMERS: Bug 9554: single quote in didyoumean
02:46 jenkins_koha * Tomas Cohen Arazi: Bug 7440 - Remove NoZebra vestiges
02:46 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9341 major, P1 - high, ---, vfernandes, Pushed to Master , Problem with UNIMARC authors facets
02:46 jenkins_koha * Tomas Cohen Arazi: Bug 7440 - Remove NoZebra and QueryRemoveStopWords sysprefs
02:46 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9727 normal, P5 - low, ---, colin.campbell, Pushed to Master , Typo in code causes compilation failure with Solr enabled
02:46 jenkins_koha * Paul Poulain: Bug 7440 follow-up removing forgotten NoZebra references
02:46 jenkins_koha * Jared Camins-Esakov: Bug 7440: Increment version number
02:46 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9813 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Update About page with license information about Bootstrap and jQuery
02:46 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9841 minor, P5 - low, ---, magnus, Pushed to Master , Improve the link from the "logged in as mysql-user"-warning
02:46 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9554 normal, P5 - low, ---, fridolyn.somers, Pushed to Master , single quote in didyoumean
02:46 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7440 major, P3, ---, gmcharlt, Pushed to Master , Vestiges of NoZebra should be removed
02:46 jcamins      Okay, this is weird.
02:46 jcamins      Why does t/db_dependent/Members.t load MakeMaker?
02:46 rangi        pass
02:47 jcamins      Also, our test coverage for C4::Members sucks.
02:47 rangi        yep
02:49 rangi        me, liz, srdjan and an academy student
02:49 jcamins      Well, if you didn't know I didn't really think anyone else would. :P
02:49 rangi        it was a stub before that created at kohacon10 when i was teaching cait about unit tests :)
02:50 jcamins      Heh.
02:50 jcamins      We desperately need more unit tests.
02:50 jcamins      Okay, it's a little better than I initially thought.
02:50 jcamins      33% is a lot better than 24%
02:50 rangi        yep
02:50 jcamins      I had my environment variables set wrong.
02:51 rangi        that is actually a pretty good one to copy
02:51 rangi        as it shows you how to set preferences etc
02:51 rangi        and cleans up after itself
02:51 rangi        but lots of subs that could/should be tested
02:51 jcamins      The tests that there are are good. It's that there are nowhere near enough.
02:52 rangi        yup
02:52 wizzyrea     jcamins: slef might know
02:53 wizzyrea     re: your question about makemaker
02:53 jcamins      wizzyrea: I decided I'd rather stick my head in the sand and pretend I didn't notice. :P
02:53 wizzyrea     yea rangi that is a great example. thanks for that.
02:54 jcamins      Yeah... now is when the amount of time I spend on pushing things becomes excessive.
03:02 huginn       New commit(s) kohagit: Merge branch 'bug_9103' into 3.12-master <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=252ed24410d41bcdca14a57de79919a2f763535e> / Bug 9103 : Follow up adding unit test <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=ab133b6a6d7fba30acc14690427582a5d3b34b5f> / Bug 9103: overdue_notices.pl should use AutoEmailPrimaryAddress syspref <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commit
03:08 jenkins_koha Starting build #1087 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS)
03:16 * jcamins    has pushed enough patches for tonight.
03:16 jcamins      Good night.
03:16 wahanui      I'll be waiting for you to come back, jcamins.
03:16 eythian      I don't think wahanui sounds quite creepy enough.
03:16 * wizzyrea   loves his stalker tendencies
03:16 rangi        night jcamins
03:21 tcohen       good night jcamins
03:26 eythian      wahanui: the saddest thing
03:26 wahanui      the saddest thing is http://ur1.ca/9x67k
03:26 eythian      wahanui: the saddest thing is also http://cooleycooley.blogspot.co.nz/2012/07/the-loneliest-unicorn.html
03:26 wahanui      okay, eythian.
03:41 tcohen       eythian, that comic is great
03:41 eythian      :)
03:58 wizzyrea     popcorn?
03:58 wahanui      popcorn is a vital part of any work day.
03:58 wizzyrea     get the popcorn
03:58 wahanui      http://i.imgur.com/p3cHE.gif
04:03 eythian      http://i.imgur.com/d9wGKoT.jpg
04:03 cjh          I hope there is a harness involved
04:07 ibeardslee   argh
04:17 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #1087: UNSTABLE in 1 hr 8 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/1087/
04:17 jenkins_koha * Bernardo Gonzalez Kriegel: Bug 9827: remove 'insecure' system preference
04:17 jenkins_koha * Jared Camins-Esakov: Bug 9827: Increment version number
04:17 jenkins_koha * Tomas Cohen Arazi: Bug 9731 - Remove changelanguage.pl in favor of opac-changelanguage.pl
04:17 jenkins_koha * Fridolyn SOMERS: Bug 9415: XML catalog export is missing root node
04:17 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9827 normal, P5 - low, ---, bgkriegel, Pushed to Master , Remove 'insecure' system preference
04:17 jenkins_koha * Fridolyn SOMERS: Bug 9423: Add notforloan value to issue confirmation or blocking message
04:17 jenkins_koha * Fridolyn SOMERS: Bug 9103: overdue_notices.pl should use AutoEmailPrimaryAddress syspref
04:17 jenkins_koha * Chris Cormack: Bug 9103 : Follow up adding unit test
04:17 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9731 normal, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Pushed to Master , Remove changelanguage.pl in favor of (already present) opac-changelanguage.pl
04:17 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9415 normal, P5 - low, ---, fridolyn.somers, Pushed to Master , XML catalog export is missing root node
04:17 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9423 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, fridolyn.somers, Pushed to Master , Add notforloan value to issue confirmation or blocking message
04:17 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9103 major, P5 - low, ---, fridolyn.somers, Pushed to Master , overdue_notices.pl should use AutoEmailPrimaryAddress syspref
04:33 rangi        hi rgbv
04:33 rangi        we all set?
04:35 rgbv         hi rangi
04:35 rgbv         all go, shall I do it?
04:36 rangi        ive just run the apt-get update (its just finishing) but then yep you can do the apt-get install koha-common
04:37 rgbv         have we backed up?
04:37 rangi        let me check
04:38 rangi        hmm nope
04:38 rangi        wnat to do that?
04:38 rgbv         sorry forgot to... does it take long?
04:38 rangi        nope, ill run it now
04:39 rangi        should take 5-10 mins
04:39 rangi        better safe than sorry :)
04:39 rgbv         ta  btw what do you run for that?
04:40 rangi        while it is running if you want to, you can put koha into maintenance mode
04:40 rangi        koha-run-backups
04:40 wahanui      koha-run-backups is to be run nightly.
04:40 rangi        to do that you do koha-disable waitaki
04:40 rangi        or we can not worry about it
04:41 rangi        (the upgrade process will put it in maintenance mode while it is running anyway)
04:41 rgbv         lets not worry, lets be happy :)
04:41 rangi        cool
04:43 rangi        ok we are good to go
04:45 rgbv         done it
04:45 rgbv         we have unmet dependancies...
04:46 rangi        ahh 2 secs ill fix, hit no
04:46 rgbv         dropped me back to prompt anyway
04:46 rangi        cool
04:47 rangi        try now
04:47 rgbv         ohhhh that looks better
04:49 rgbv         ive just finished a cousrera database course, it was quite good, and very free
04:50 rangi        excellent
04:50 rgbv         delivery like that is going to radically alter higher education
04:51 rangi        definitely
04:51 rangi        and in a good way
04:51 rgbv         yep
04:51 rangi        cool loks like it is doign what it should
04:52 rgbv         is it a stepped upgrade?
04:52 rangi        yep it should upgrade you all the way up through 3.8 to 3.10.3
04:53 rangi        i think you win the prize for the prettiest koha maintenance page
04:53 rangi        http://library.waitaki.govt.nz/cgi-bin/koha/maintenance.pl
04:53 rgbv         is that a booby prize?
04:53 rangi        some of the changes make take it a little time
04:54 rangi        make=may
04:54 rangi        :)
04:56 rangi        ah its doing the due date changes, (in 3.8 and above you can do hourly loans)
04:56 rangi        that will take it a little time
04:56 rgbv         hourly loans, excellent
05:02 jenkins_koha Starting build #1088 for job Koha_master (previous build: UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #1086 3 hr 24 min ago)
05:06 rangi        hmm renewdate now
05:06 rangi        tick tick
05:07 rangi        but its doing all the stuff it should
05:15 rangi        oh man, now issuedate sheesh
05:15 rangi        seems to take about 10 mins for each date to datetime change
05:24 rangi        yay, we are past that now
05:27 rgbv         seems to be done now?
05:28 rangi        yep
05:28 rangi        opac looks good
05:29 rangi        staff side look ok?
05:29 rgbv         looks great
05:30 rangi        excellen
05:30 rangi        t
05:30 rgbv         I'll do some testing...
05:30 rangi        yep, ill be around
05:30 rangi        sip looks to be running
05:36 rgbv         so many new features, this will be fun
05:36 rangi        :)
05:37 rangi        i figure as long as issuing and returning is working
05:38 rgbv         seem to be, could be tea time :)
05:38 rangi        excellent
05:38 rgbv         kiaora tato Chris
05:39 rangi        :) be sure to sing out if anything is weird tomorrow
05:39 rgbv         will do, kakite
06:10 jenkins_koha Yippie, build fixed!
06:10 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #1088: FIXED in 1 hr 7 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/1088/
07:31 rangi        @wunder marseille
07:31 huginn       rangi: The current temperature in Marseille, France is 9.0°C (8:00 AM CET on March 20, 2013). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 87%. Dew Point: 7.0°C. Pressure: 29.65 in 1004 hPa (Rising).
07:31 rangi        @wunder nzwn
07:31 huginn       rangi: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 14.0°C (8:00 PM NZDT on March 20, 2013). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 63%. Dew Point: 7.0°C. Pressure: 30.30 in 1026 hPa (Steady).
07:32 mtj          hey chris, you think you might be online in 1 hour-ish?
07:33 rangi        yep
07:33 mtj          i was gonna ask you to help me/joubu debug joubu's git-push access to the koha-qa repo
07:33 mtj          afaik, his ssh key has been added, but ssh/gitolite is still asking for a passwd
07:34 rangi        you have to give they person access to the repo too
07:34 rangi        lemme check
07:34 mtj          (unlike my access to the repo, which works fine)
07:34 mtj          hokay
07:35 rangi        what user is he connecting as do you know?
07:35 mtj          hmm, no idea
07:35 mtj          j* ?
07:35 rangi        jdruart@git.koha-community.org
07:36 mtj          yeah
07:36 rangi        he will have to connect as that user, cos that is what his key is for
07:37 rangi        my guess is not using the same key
07:37 rangi        everything else looks fine
07:38 mtj          hmm, ok
07:39 mtj          perhaps add an additional jdruart@biblibre.com key, too?
07:40 mtj          meh, oh well… thanks for checking that for me :)
07:41 rangi        in his ssh config he can set the key to use per host
07:42 mtj          ah right, that might be an incorrect config - at his end
07:47 mtj          looks like 'ssh -vv' will tell him what private key its using when connecting, too
07:47 rangi        yep
07:47 rangi        that'd be what i would check
07:56 reiveune     hello
07:56 wahanui      bonjour, reiveune
07:57 alex_a       hello
07:57 wahanui      hello, alex_a
08:10 matts        hi !
08:14 Joubu        hello
08:17 * magnuse    waves from marseille
08:20 * dcook      waves to cait
08:20 dcook        Seems like you're getting here just as I'm going
08:20 * cait       waves to dcook and to everyone on #koha
08:20 cait         that's the evil timezones
08:20 dcook        And weird coincidence
08:20 cait         hm not sure :)
08:27 clrh         bonjour
08:27 wahanui      hello, clrh
08:27 * cait       waves to everyone
08:30 magnuse      @wunder marseille
08:31 huginn       magnuse: The current temperature in Marseille, France is 9.0°C (9:00 AM CET on March 20, 2013). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 82%. Dew Point: 6.0°C. Pressure: 29.65 in 1004 hPa (Steady).
08:31 magnuse      @wunder boo
08:31 huginn       magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is -3.0°C (9:20 AM CET on March 20, 2013). Conditions: Low Drifting Snow. Humidity: 40%. Dew Point: -15.0°C. Windchill: -12.0°C. Pressure: 30.48 in 1032 hPa (Steady).
08:31 magnuse      "Low Drifting Snow", eh? :-)
08:33 christophe_c hello #koha
08:34 cait         @wunder Konstanz
08:34 huginn       cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 4.7°C (9:30 AM CET on March 20, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 82%. Dew Point: 2.0°C. Windchill: 5.0°C. Pressure: 29.59 in 1002 hPa (Steady).
08:34 dcook        @wunder Sydney, Australia
08:34 huginn       dcook: The current temperature in Sydney, New South Wales is 23.0°C (7:00 PM EST on March 20, 2013). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 57%. Dew Point: 14.0°C. Pressure: 30.15 in 1021 hPa (Steady).
08:35 drojf        @wunder berlin, germany
08:35 huginn       drojf: The current temperature in Prenzlauer Berg, Berlin, Germany is 0.3°C (9:13 AM CET on March 20, 2013). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 72%. Dew Point: -4.0°C. Windchill: -2.0°C. Pressure: 29.68 in 1005 hPa (Steady).
08:36 cait         morning drojf :)
08:36 drojf        hi cait :)
08:36 drojf        did you have pink dreams? :)
08:41 cait         drojf: hm no - but warm ones :)
08:41 cait         gaetan_B++ for getting an extra blanket for me :)
08:42 gaetan_B     :)
08:42 * gaetan_B   is pretty statisfied with his extra blanket too
08:43 cait         heh
08:46 drojf        extra_blankets++
08:49 dcook        hehe. Well, I hope you all stay warm and have a fun and productive time!
08:49 dcook        Night!
08:50 cait         night dcook
09:02 magnuse      rangi still around? any chance of bug 9256 making it into 3.10.4?
09:02 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9256 critical, P5 - low, ---, magnus, Pushed to Master , Search is broken for 3.10 package-installs when marcflavour != marc21
09:02 rangi        magnuse: no template changes eh?
09:02 cait         don't think so
09:02 magnuse      nope, just config files
09:03 rangi        yep, then it can
09:04 magnuse      woohoo!
09:05 magnuse      that would be awesome - it means my customers can be on 3.10 for a little while before going to 3.12 :-)
09:05 rangi        :)
09:09 magnuse      hey, UNIMARC people: is search working ok for you on master (updated this morning)?
09:16 drojf        magnuse: aren't you in one room with all unimarc people? :)
09:16 sophie_m     magnuse: with or without reindexing ?
09:16 magnuse      sophie_m: either way...
09:16 wahanui      rumour has it either way is workable though imho
09:16 rangi        stand up and yell "UNIMARC FOREVER!!!" magnuse
09:17 rangi        "There can be only one!"
09:17 drojf        lol
09:17 magnuse      must... resist...
09:17 rangi        heh
09:17 drojf        MARC must die, UNIMARC must live
09:17 cait         lol
09:17 cait         you people are weird and it's not even friday yet
09:17 rangi        hmm
09:17 * cait       hides from matts
09:18 magnuse      nooo... MARC must die, NORMARC must die first
09:18 rangi        now i want to watch highlander again
09:18 drojf        we could do a remake. liblander
09:18 magnuse      lol!
09:19 rangi        a wild 100$a appears, it uses confusing punctuation, it's super effective
09:19 * rangi      wanders offer into marcemon
09:19 rangi        s/offer/over/
09:19 sophie_m     magnuse: it's ok for me withou reindexing
09:19 sophie_m     without
09:20 magnuse      sophie_m: reindexing fixed it for me!!!
09:20 * magnuse    breaths a huge sigh of relief...
09:21 rangi        :)
09:22 cait         rangi: lol
09:22 cait         rangi: could it be you are watching a bit too much kids tv? :)
09:22 magnuse      sophie_m: thanks for reminding me about reindexing, i thought i did it yesterday, but...
09:23 sophie_m     :-)
09:25 rangi        cait: maybe :)
09:25 rangi        im glad you at least got my pokemon joke :)
09:25 rangi        i hear someone else will be watchign kids tv in the future :)
09:36 magnuse      @seen eythian
09:36 huginn       magnuse: eythian was last seen in #koha 5 hours, 33 minutes, and 31 seconds ago: <eythian> http://i.imgur.com/d9wGKoT.jpg
09:37 * magnuse    guesses eythian is not around?
09:53 cait         wb drojf
09:54 drojf        my internet is doing strange things again
09:54 magnuse      the internet tends to do that :-)
09:59 cait         hah!
09:59 cait         bug 9863
09:59 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9863 trivial, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , 'import' button in web installer should read 'Import'
10:11 matts        cait, bug 7294 fixed, and questions answered :)
10:11 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7294 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, matthias.meusburger, Signed Off , status "in order"
10:15 cait         ok
10:15 cait         i just started with somethine else, - but will come back to your patch :)
10:17 matts        okay thx !
10:39 magnuse      @later tell jcamins: could it be an idea to build a new alpha package with the fixes for bug 9843 and bug 9256?
10:39 huginn       magnuse: The operation succeeded.
10:48 magnuse      @later tell eythian: do you happen to have any opinions on Bug 9749?
10:49 huginn       magnuse: The operation succeeded.
11:38 jcamins      magnuse: yes, I'm doing to later today, actually.
11:38 jcamins      *going to
11:40 magnuse      jcamins++
11:40 magnuse      i'll test it today if you are quick enough, or tomorrow if you are not :-)
11:40 jcamins      :)
11:43 drojf        meh
12:22 oleonard     Hi #koha
12:22 * oleonard   cheers on the testers at Hackfest
12:26 tcohen       morning jcamins
12:28 jcamins      Morning.
12:28 wahanui      Ah, morning. The cat must be wanting breakfast.
12:33 tcohen       back to stable jenkins_koha?
12:35 clrh         I got candidates for 3.8.x and 3.10.x apply, how does I do to who ? rangi ?
12:35 jcamins      clrh: yes.
12:35 clrh         bug 7065 is in 3.10.x and bug 9019 only master
12:35 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7065 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle.m.hall, Pushed to Master , reserves table needs a primary key
12:35 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9019 minor, P5 - low, ---, julian.maurice, Pushed to Master , ILS-DI: GetRecords should return item fields in marcxml
12:36 clrh         both applies on a 3.8.x
12:36 jcamins      rangi will not backport 7065 to 3.8.x.
12:37 clrh         because of updatedb ?
12:37 jcamins      He'd probably backport 9019, though, if you ask him.
12:37 jcamins      Because it is an enhancement.
12:37 jcamins      If someone needs that, they should upgrade to 3.10.x.
12:38 clrh         hm
12:38 clrh         ok
12:38 jcamins      If you add a note on 9019, he'll probably see it.
12:38 clrh         ok thx!
12:38 jcamins      I suspect he was probably going to backport it anyway, but it never hurts to ask.
12:38 clrh         :)
12:39 jcamins      Out of curiosity... why would you want 7065 backported to 3.8.x?
12:45 clrh         jcamins: jajm try to explain me.. we've got problem with an ilsdi webservice and reserve - an history of items and ids
12:46 jcamins      Ah.
12:46 clrh         we maintains 3.8 for customers and 3 of them have drupal who calls ilsdi service so we must fork this patch (or pass version in 3.10 of course)
12:47 tcohen       does anyone have links to restfull koha work by biblibre?
12:47 clrh         -s
12:47 clrh         tcohen
12:47 clrh         git.biblibre.com
12:47 clrh         and clic on koha-restful
12:47 tcohen       is that work intended to be merged into Koha?
12:47 clrh         tcohen: http://git.biblibre.com/?p=koha-restful;a=summary
12:48 clrh         tcohen: for the moment it is an external library that works like a charm with 3.8.x and we are validating 3.10.x at the moment
12:48 tcohen       its just for the opac, right?
13:05 clrh         tcohen: it is a pack of webservices
13:06 clrh         tcohen: it calls Koha API
13:06 huginn       New commit(s) kohagit: Merge branch 'bug_9748' into 3.12-master <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=6c2b3606999f846b0befab95a445600257a14c0d> / Bug 9748: don't link items in SCO checkout list back to main OPAC <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=e3ed1b6201971e32f9ebd33f14f6ee1304faa002> / Merge branch 'bug_7875' into 3.12-master <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdif
13:08 tcohen       clrh: looks nice
13:08 jenkins_koha Starting build #1089 for job Koha_master (previous build: FIXED)
13:19 tcohen       dpavlin: that was fast!
13:33 khall        To anyone interested: Bug 7572 could really use a sign-off
13:33 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7572 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle.m.hall, Needs Signoff , Add Clubs & Services Feature
13:35 cait         khall: you might need to go over there and ask :)
13:41 dpavlin      tcohen: I'm still writing database migration ATM
13:42 tcohen       a patch for updatedatabase.pl, right?
13:45 tcohen       @later tell chris_n, i want to close bug 5219, please tell me if its ok as you are the author
13:45 huginn       tcohen: The operation succeeded.
13:46 magnuse      bug 5219
13:46 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5219 minor, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Perltidy code
13:46 tcohen       @bag, i got stuck with stuff from my job and didn't have the time to test your patch, i'm sorry
13:46 huginn       tcohen: I'll give you the answer just as soon as RDA is ready
13:47 bag          is ok - I will try to find someone.  as jcamins knows I'm close to giving up and getting that past QA by friday
13:48 jcamins      bag: if you rebase and re-upload the EDI patches they should apply cleanly in the sandboxes.
13:49 cait         tcohen++
13:52 dpavlin      tcohen: yap, updatedatabase.pl migration -- can I bother you for another sign-off? ;-)
13:53 tcohen       #i was just in idle-mode waiting for your patch
13:53 tcohen       i'll create a fake notice and test your patch
13:57 dpavlin      tcohen++
13:58 jcamins      Wow.
13:58 jcamins      The Supreme Court decided in favor of the first sale doctrine.
13:58 cait         ?
13:59 jcamins      cait: a student from Thailand was buying books in Thailand and then reselling them in the US.
13:59 jcamins      The publisher of the books sued him.
13:59 cait         tcohen: you and dpavlin are my heros of today :)
14:00 jcamins      The case went to the Supreme Court, and in a surprise decision that leaves dozens -- well, me -- staring in shock, the Supreme Court found that it was legal for him to do so.
14:03 magnuse      jcamins: i just signed off 9802 - i guess it does not need qa since it's from eythian and to do with the packages?
14:04 magnuse      bug 9802
14:04 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9802 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, robin, Signed Off , Add test case to verify package man pages are well formatted
14:04 jcamins      magnuse: yes, please set to Passed QA. :)
14:04 magnuse      ah, ok
14:06 magnuse      jcamins: done
14:07 jcamins      Thanks.
14:15 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #1089: UNSTABLE in 1 hr 7 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/1089/
14:15 jenkins_koha * Magnus Enger: Bug 9772 - Display Norwegian chars correctly in the patron category dropdown
14:15 jenkins_koha * Fridolyn SOMERS: Bug 7018 : need all acq permissions to search
14:15 jenkins_koha * Fridolyn SOMERS: Bug 9504: URL escape in OPAC more searches
14:15 jenkins_koha * Mathieu Saby: Bug 7875: Change the pending suggestion link in home page so that it directs to pending suggestions
14:15 jenkins_koha * Kyle M Hall: Bug 9748: don't link items in SCO checkout list back to main OPAC
14:15 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9772 normal, P5 - low, ---, magnus, Pushed to Master , Displayed Norwegian chars correctly in the patron category dropdown on the Patrons page
14:15 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7018 critical, P5 - low, ---, fridolyn.somers, Pushed to Master , need all acq permissions to search
14:15 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9504 normal, P5 - low, ---, fridolyn.somers, Pushed to Master , URL escape in OPAC more searches
14:15 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7875 trivial, P5 - low, ---, mathieu.saby, Pushed to Master , Pending suggestion link (the numbers) from staff client home directs to accepted suggestions instead of pending
14:15 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9748 minor, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Pushed to Master , noitemlinks not being enforced
14:18 oleonard     I didn't know we could set something to "BLOCKED."
14:18 oleonard     Does it automatically unblock when the dependency is marked as fixed?
14:18 oleonard     Not that we would usually want to wait that long.
14:19 jcamins      oleonard: not automatically, no.
14:19 jcamins      Does anyone have any idea what is going on with koha-community.org's DNS?
14:20 jcamins      Actually, never mind... it would seem that *no* DNS is working on my test server.
14:21 cait         oleonard: nope - it's very new and totally manual
14:22 cait         done manually?
14:22 tcohen       is bug 9659 candidate for 3.12?
14:22 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9659 normal, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Signed Off , Undefined authorised value category yields empty dropdown menu on SQL reports
14:23 cait         tcohen: it is - just the qa team is way behind with the queue
14:23 jcamins      Yes.
14:23 tcohen       thanks cait, its really a bugfix (error handling)
14:23 tcohen       so no rush I guess
14:30 huginn       New commit(s) kohagit: Increment version for 3.12-alpha2 release <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=d222047cae6d19f9d7efa7da733012616bd2265d> / Update release notes for 3.12-alpha2 release <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=09f6c65a50644b1369e87f0ae0649fc5983dc3fe>
14:38 oleonard     When the error log says something like "Use of uninitialized value in hash element" is there a way to get more specific information beyond line number?
14:38 jcamins      oleonard: nope.
14:38 jcamins      At least, not so far as I know.
14:39 jenkins_koha Starting build #1090 for job Koha_master (previous build: UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #1088 9 hr 37 min ago)
14:41 oleonard     Thanks jcamins, I wanted to make sure I wasn't missing some trick
14:43 tcohen       if you are able to reproduce the error try Data::Dumper on the variable
14:45 jcamins      I tagged 3.12.0-alpha2.
14:51 jcamins      Okay, I am pushing bug 7804.
14:51 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7804 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle.m.hall, Passed QA , Add Koha Plugin System
14:53 jcamins      Not right this moment, but as it is disabled by default I think we'll chance it.
14:55 magnuse      jcamins: woohoo!
14:56 drojf        jcamins: does the alpha2 still include the icons?
14:56 jcamins      drojf: no.
14:56 drojf        ha. i will never upgrade
14:56 drojf        ;)
14:56 cait         lol
14:58 chris_n      tcohen: apparently I was not paying attention to myself (re 5219)
14:58 chris_n      that's fine
15:03 drojf        duckduckgo asks me to test a »Bang suggestions feature« :D
15:09 jcamins      khall: while you're revising and re-uploading the course reserves patches, you might consider adding a test plan into the commit message on the first patch.
15:14 khall        jcamins: I was just thinking about that
15:15 jcamins      Thanks.
15:16 khall        np!
15:24 oleonard     We include items processing in XSLTParse4Display but does this item information get output anywhere?
15:24 jcamins      oleonard: search results.
15:25 oleonard     Are you sure? I don't think the item information is coming from XSLT?
15:25 jcamins      Pretty sure.
15:26 jcamins      Yeah, look at line 1056 in MARC21slim2OPACResults.xsl
15:28 oleonard     Ah you're right, for the availability info
15:39 bag          oh jcamins zeno has rebased the edifact bug - but it still can't get sandbox sign-off (since there is a commandline that needs to be run as part of the test plan) :) how it goes right :D
15:39 jcamins      bag: then, yes, you'll need someone to apply it themselves.
15:40 bag          yeah other things seem more important this week :)
15:47 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #1090: STILL UNSTABLE in 1 hr 7 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/1090/
15:47 jenkins_koha * Jared Camins-Esakov: Update release notes for 3.12-alpha2 release
15:47 jenkins_koha * Jared Camins-Esakov: Increment version for 3.12-alpha2 release
15:51 magnuse      as far as i could tell from the output on jenkins, the missing stability was caused by one or two tests related to the "quote of the day" feature
15:51 magnuse      ?
15:53 jcamins      magnuse: no, it's the update.
15:53 magnuse      oh
15:53 jcamins      Everything that accesses the OPAC gets a maintenance screen.
15:55 cait         is bug 7674 only a bug fix?
15:55 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7674 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, julian.maurice, Signed Off , Separate tabs for my holdings and others holdings
15:55 cait         should I move it to a separate bug?
15:55 jcamins      I'm not sure, and, if it is, yes.
15:55 jcamins      Actually, it needs to go on a separate bug regardless.
16:04 cait         i got a bit confused if the feature itself had been pushed already
16:04 jcamins      so did I, but I think it did.
16:12 oleonard     Looks like we calculate "$norequests" no less than 6 times, in 6 different scripts.
16:12 oleonard     Seems like that should be centralized somewhere :|
16:13 reiveune     bye
16:14 jcamins      What's $norequests do?
16:14 oleonard     Tell the template whether something can have a hold placed on it
16:14 jcamins      Ah.
16:15 cait         jcamins: just to make sure - you want me to attach the bug to a new bug report? :)
16:15 cait         oleonard: that sounds dangerous actually
16:15 cait         how can that work?
16:15 cait         :(
16:16 jcamins      cait: yes.
16:48 dpavlin      bug 8375 would really benefit from your comment if you care about utf-8 chars in labels (or patron cards)
16:48 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8375 normal, P5 - low, ---, matted-34813, Needs Signoff , Common diacritics not shown correctly when exporting batch label to PDF
16:48 cait         dpavlin++
16:48 cait         :)
17:02 frido_s      see you
17:13 jcamins      ie--
17:13 jcamins      windows--
17:14 oleonard     It goes without saying, of course. But I assume there is a specific reason today?
17:16 jcamins      oleonard: yes, I had to start it.
17:18 jcamins      Also... does IE8 not even try to load HTML5 pages?
17:20 jcamins      Oh, nice.
17:20 jcamins      If you don't put http:// before a URL when you're navigating to a site that is not on port 80 in IE8... EVERYTHING EXPLODES!!!!!!!!111111!!!!
17:22 oleonard     As in, redirects you to Google?
17:23 jcamins      oleonard: in my test of this undocumented feature, it froze the browser.
17:23 tcohen       as in your cpu overheats
17:23 jcamins      tcohen: fortunately it was in a VM so it was just a virtual CPU that overheated.
17:23 oleonard     Hm, haven't seen that one before
17:24 tcohen       :-P
17:24 jcamins      Grr.
17:24 jcamins      section and header are not block elements in IE8.
17:31 maximep      aren't they just seen as divs ?
17:32 jcamins      maximep: no, they're seen as "GO AWAY AND DIE DIE DIE I REFUSE TO RENDER YOU I HATE YOU YOU STUPID SEMANTICALLY MEANINGFUL ELEMENTS" and summarily ignored.
17:34 maximep      ah, it sees them as content element, so it outputs them as inline -_-
17:35 maximep      boiletplate and modernizr use stuff shims like this one http://code.google.com/p/html5shiv/ to fix that
17:35 jcamins      Yup, and now I am too. :)
17:39 jcamins      ... IE doesn't do responsive.
17:40 alexanderd   Hi all! could I throw just a little question, please...?
17:40 alexanderd   Could I change system kohauser password freely, "# passwd kohauser"?
17:40 alexanderd   BTW, Im using package version, and system user is koha-foo-koha, but on
17:41 tcohen       the package version has its own username schema, don't mess with it
17:41 jcamins      alexanderd: the koha user should not have a password.
17:41 jcamins      I'm pretty sure it's su-only.
17:41 tcohen       I guess the password itself is meaningless for the scripts
17:42 jcamins      tcohen: right, but those users should not allow login.
17:43 jcamins      alexanderd: what are you trying to do?
17:44 jcamins      alexanderd: what are you trying to do?
17:44 alexanderd   Sorry, it seems I paste to much and wasn't able to write (banned?)
17:46 jcamins      alexanderd: use paste.koha-community.org
17:46 jcamins      And, I wanted to know what your goal was with changing the password.
17:47 alexanderd   I was saying that on /etc/koha/sites/koha-foo/koha-conf.xml we have  <serverinfo id="biblioserver">  <user>kohauser</user> and  <config>  <user>koha_koha-foo</user>
17:47 jcamins      Right, but what are you trying to do?
17:48 alexanderd   It seems I forget the kohauser created by the package instalation, and I want to use it to nicely edit crontab, run rebuilt_zebra.... and so on
17:49 jcamins      Ummm...
17:49 jcamins      All the cron jobs are managed by the packages.
17:49 jcamins      If you want to run something as the package user, use sudo or su.
17:49 alexanderd   yes, sudo su koha-foo-koha is an option...
17:49 jcamins      That is by far the best option.
17:50 jcamins      Changing the password wouldn't make any difference to Koha, but it's better to leave it so the user can't log in.
17:51 jcamins      You know what else I hate about IE? Everything!
17:52 oleonard     The only thing I like about IE is hating it.
17:53 jcamins      oleonard: excellent point.
17:53 tcohen       alexanderd: sudo -u <koha_user> command
17:53 alexanderd   (I also hate it). So, /usr/sbin/koha-rebuild-zebra is just like a like a symlink to /usr/share/koha/bin/migration_tools/rebuild_zebra.pl ?
17:54 jcamins      Not exactly.
17:54 jcamins      koha-rebuild-zebra runs rebuild_zebra.pl with the appropriate arguments for packages.
17:54 jcamins      So it has some different command-line switches.
17:55 alexanderd   OK, I could jump to kohauser that way, but I thought it was dirty...
17:55 jcamins      No, much better.
17:55 jcamins      Also, avoid doing anything as the Koha user.
17:56 alexanderd   I suspect I did something dirty: On package instalation, every koha file owner:group is kohauser:kohauser?
17:57 jcamins      Usually...
17:57 jcamins      I mean, not the files /usr/share/koha.
17:57 jcamins      But the ones in /var/*/koha
17:58 tcohen       its a *wrapper*
17:58 jcamins      tcohen: right. That's the word I couldn't think of. :)
17:59 tcohen       jcamins, you need to sleep a bit more
17:59 tcohen       :-)
17:59 cait         tcohen: you are not the only one :)
17:59 cait         thx a lot btw for your additional sign-offs!
17:59 cait         tcohen++
18:00 jcamins      tcohen: this coming from you? You left at the same time I did last night, and came back around the same time, and you work in an office!
18:03 tcohen       heh, i'm not obsesed at all, NO!
18:03 tcohen       :-P
18:06 cait         obsession++?
18:07 tcohen       obsession++
18:07 tcohen       3.12 will rock!
18:11 cait         i sure hope so :)
18:12 oleonard     I've seen several new bugs which are Solr-specific. I wonder if there's a better way of categorizing them in Bugzilla? If the problem is OPAC+Solr is it a Solr problem or an OPAC problem?
18:13 jcamins      Solr.
18:13 oleonard     We at least need to add a Solr component to Bugzilla.
18:15 jcamins      Oh, I didn't realize we didn't have one.
18:44 tcohen       jcamins, do we yet have packages for the alpha release?
18:45 tcohen       i'm calling for beta tester librarians at UNC and would be great to have an easy super-fast deply+upgrade
18:45 jcamins      tcohen: not for alpha2 yet.
18:45 tcohen       ok
18:45 jcamins      If you see eythian, ask him if he would be willing to build another package for squeeze-dev.
18:45 jcamins      :)
18:50 cait         ok, dinner time :)
18:50 cait         bye all1
19:23 tcohen       life moves on, gotta leave!
19:23 tcohen       bye #koha
20:02 rgbv         morning #rangi
20:02 rangi        hiya rgbv all good?
20:03 rgbv         pretty good, but the self issue doesn't want to talk...
20:03 jcamins      rangi: I just pushed a bunch to master so you'll probably need to run updatedatabase.
20:03 rangi        will do in a sec jcamins
20:03 rangi        rgbv: ahh is it giving any message?
20:03 jcamins      Thanks.
20:03 jcamins      And I'm going to go learn how to replaster my walls.
20:04 * oleonard   pictures jcamins getting carried away by the life of a plasterer and never returning to #koha
20:04 rangi        ah yep i think i see the problem
20:04 rangi        2 secs rgbv ill fix
20:05 oleonard     Is offline circ (via Firefox addon) not working or have I forgotten how to do it?
20:05 huginn       New commit(s) kohagit: Merge branch 'bug_9434' into 3.12-master <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=c8eb5eab63b04fdc8406dc2e45ed4032456a48ab> / Bug 9434 follow-up: fix number of tests skipped when cache is disabled <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=a20f7378936956033e34c42cb8d24a186faf6243> / Merge branch 'bug_9457' into 3.12-master <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=comm
20:06 oleonard     I scanned items into the KOC tool, I went to the "log" tab and clicked "Commit to Koha"
20:06 oleonard     Then  I went to offline_circ/list.pl but it says "no pending offline operations"
20:08 jenkins_koha Starting build #1091 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #1088 15 hr ago)
20:09 oleonard     Hmf. Now it says "authentication failed."
20:09 jcamins      oleonard: cait said there was a bug, but I don't know what it is.
20:10 jcamins      ... and now I'm _really_ going to go learn how to replaster my walls.
20:11 rangi        ok, lets see if its happy now rgbv
20:11 oleonard     @later tell cait Did you find a bug with offline circ? It's not working for me.
20:11 huginn       oleonard: The operation succeeded.
20:13 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #1091: FAILURE in 4 min 21 sec: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/1091/
20:13 jenkins_koha * Julian Maurice: Bug 9875: Hide empty items tab
20:13 jenkins_koha * Magnus Enger: Bug 9213 - Implement analytics for NORMARC XSLT
20:13 jenkins_koha * Bernardo Gonzalez Kriegel: Bug 9353 - Missing subfields on MARC21 frameworks
20:13 jenkins_koha * Bernardo Gonzalez Kriegel: Followup Bug 9353: Missing subfields on MARC21 frameworks
20:13 jenkins_koha * Jared Camins-Esakov: Bug 9353: Increment version number
20:13 jenkins_koha * Kyle M Hall: Bug 7804 - Add Koha Plugin System
20:13 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9875 normal, P5 - low, ---, julian.maurice, Pushed to Master , Don't display empty tab when using (OPAC)SeparateHoldings
20:13 jenkins_koha * Kyle M Hall: Bug 7804 - Add Koha Plugin System - Unit Tests
20:13 jenkins_koha * Kyle M Hall: Bug 7804 - Add Koha Plugin System - QA Followup - Add flags and permissions sql
20:13 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9213 normal, P5 - low, ---, magnus, Pushed to Master , Implement analytics for NORMARC XSLT
20:13 jenkins_koha * Kyle M Hall: Bug 7804 - Add Koha Plugin System - QA Followup 2
20:13 jenkins_koha * Kyle M Hall: Bug 7804 - Add Koha Plugin System - QA Followup 3 - Additional Unit Tests
20:13 jenkins_koha * Jared Camins-Esakov: Bug 7804: Increment version number
20:13 jenkins_koha * Robin Sheat: Bug 9802 - add test case to ensure man pages have correct XML
20:13 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9353 minor, P5 - low, ---, bgkriegel, Pushed to Master , Missing subfields on MARC21 frameworks
20:13 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7804 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle.m.hall, Pushed to Master , Add Koha Plugin System
20:13 jenkins_koha * Jared Camins-Esakov: Bug 9434: Introduce new tied cache system
20:13 jenkins_koha * Fridolyn SOMERS: Bug 9751: Patron flags red in moremember.pl like in circulation.pl
20:13 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9802 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, robin, Pushed to Master , Add test case to verify package man pages are well formatted
20:13 jenkins_koha * Chris Cormack: Bug 9704 : Adding persona login to the CCSR theme
20:13 jenkins_koha * Owen Leonard: Bug 9446 [Revised] Use DataTables on Z39.50 servers administration page
20:13 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9434 major, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Pushed to Master , Introduce new tied cache system
20:13 jenkins_koha * Owen Leonard: Bug 9464 - Update DataTables configuration on patron statistics page
20:13 jenkins_koha * Bernardo Gonzalez Kriegel: Bug 9457: [ENH] Ordering branches should be case independent (2)
20:13 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9751 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, fridolyn.somers, Pushed to Master , Patron flags red in moremember.pl like in circulation.pl
20:13 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9704 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, chris, Pushed to Master , Add persona login to the CCSR theme
20:13 jenkins_koha * Bernardo Gonzalez Kriegel: Bug 9457 - Followup - Ordering branches should be case independent (2)
20:13 jenkins_koha * Jared Camins-Esakov: Bug 9434 follow-up: fix number of tests skipped when cache is disabled
20:13 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9446 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Use DataTables on Z39.50 servers administration page
20:13 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9464 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Update DataTables configuration on patron statistics page
20:13 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9457 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, bgkriegel, Pushed to Master , Ordering branches should be case independent (2)
20:13 oleonard     Later #koha
20:13 rangi        hmm a total fail
20:13 jcamins      Missing requirements?
20:13 jcamins      The packages built for me.
20:13 rangi        most likely
20:13 * jcamins    leaves for real
20:13 wahanui      most likely is not logrotated
20:14 jcamins      Really!
20:14 rangi        Error:  Base class package "Module::Bundled::Files" is empty.
20:14 rangi        rgbv: SIP should be all sorted now
20:17 rangi        jcamins: is Module::Bundled::Files in debian?
20:18 wizzyrea     I meant to share this yesterday: http://readlists.com/new/ <- takes a list of URLs and turns them into a downloadable ebook
20:20 * wizzyrea   wishes there was an open alternative to that
20:20 rangi        !jenkins build koha_master now
20:20 jenkins_koha rangi: job koha_master build scheduled now
20:21 jenkins_koha Starting build #1092 for job Koha_master (previous build: FAILURE -- last SUCCESS #1088 15 hr ago)
20:34 wizzyrea     re: bug 5256 - I've always hated that bib merging required lists.
20:34 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5256 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Merge bibs should work from cart
20:34 rangi        *nod*
20:38 wizzyrea     i mean, ok, why can't you just tick two or more from a result list and choose "merge records"
20:39 wizzyrea     make the "cataloging search" useful for something :P
20:39 rangi        rgbv: all ok?
20:54 eythian      jcamins: on it
20:57 eythian      wizzyrea: not quite the same, but I think calibre can do something like that
20:58 eythian      also, combinining the readability project (which I _think_ is open) and some scripting, it probably wouldn't be hard to do as a service or a local thing.
20:58 rgbv         very happy cheers rangi
20:58 rangi        sweet
20:58 wizzyrea     what I was thinking of
20:59 wizzyrea     was the ability to give it say, a list of ebsco urls (for example) and being able to use koha as an intermediary for getting a lovely ebook of those articles.
20:59 wizzyrea     ebsco would probably freak out.
21:02 eythian      hmm, readability isn't open, but firefox mobile has some equivalent built in so it must be possible somehow
21:02 eythian      yeah, they would probably :)
21:03 eythian      oh, readlists is by the same people as readability
21:05 eythian      jcamins: tests fail with that thing about Module::Bundled::Files
21:06 rangi        yeah i couldnt find it in debian
21:06 rangi        but i didnt look super hard
21:09 jcamins      I think so because I just use apt-file. But I'll check tomorrow.
21:12 eythian      I'm updating my apt-file indices, see if that helps
21:17 eythian      Build-Depends: EEEK: unknown package for Module::Bundled::Files,
21:17 eythian      that'll be what the problem is then
21:18 rangi        yeah, i cant find it in packages.debian.org, looks liek we will have to package it
21:20 eythian      OK, well assuming that it is properly maintained, it looks like it has no non-core dependencies.
21:21 rangi        thats good
21:22 jcamins      Ooh, I know. I'm releasing on an Ubuntu server.
21:22 eythian      ah that'll do it :)
21:23 jcamins      It's kind of chilly out here.
21:23 eythian      yeah, here too
21:23 eythian      @wunder nzwn
21:23 huginn       eythian: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 13.0°C (10:00 AM NZDT on March 21, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 82%. Dew Point: 10.0°C. Pressure: 30.45 in 1031 hPa (Rising).
21:23 rangi        almost a frost this morning
21:23 wizzyrea     13 and sunny is ok tho
21:24 rangi        at least up on the hill
21:24 eythian      it'll warm up a bit across the day
21:24 wizzyrea     we had a really heavy dew
21:25 eythian      http://i.imgur.com/AlxqY25.jpg <-- I see it's spring in Canada
21:25 wizzyrea     rofl.
21:29 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #1092: NOW UNSTABLE in 1 hr 8 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/1092/
21:30 rangi        well thats progress of sorts
21:31 drojf        "The first Geeksphone PEAK are ready, in a few days we will start selling online"
21:31 drojf        i hope it is true this time :P
21:31 rangi        i got an email about our ones
21:31 drojf        ah cool!
21:31 drojf        so you get the peak?
21:31 rangi        no idea
21:32 rangi        just that they should be shipping soon and where should they send them
21:32 drojf        nice
21:33 rangi        http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/lastCompletedBuild/testReport/
21:33 rangi        apart from the Daily Quote test
21:33 rangi        the rest look like legitimate fails
21:34 rangi        someone change permissions without updating the permissions test?
21:35 maximep      nothing better than a snow storm to start spring!
21:36 maximep      @wunder cyqb
21:36 huginn       maximep: The current temperature in lac st-charles, quebec city, Quebec is -3.9°C (5:32 PM EDT on March 20, 2013). Conditions: Light Snow Showers. Humidity: 87%. Dew Point: -6.0°C. Windchill: -4.0°C. Pressure: 29.59 in 1002 hPa (Falling).
21:36 drojf        maximep: we had the same (and probably have again), i would recommend it for everybody :D
21:47 eythian      https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/135291_619622141385201_71816828_o.jpg <-- wizzyrea
21:47 wizzyrea     is that here?
21:47 wizzyrea     because I could so order in the voice of a dalek.
21:48 eythian      I don't think it is
21:48 wizzyrea     pity
22:09 eythian      ^W is not "delete word" in xchat. ^W is not "delete word" in xchat. ^W is not "delete word" in xchat.
22:10 eythian      libmodule-bundled-files is now in the koha repo
22:10 rangi        cool
22:17 dcook        gmcharlt++
22:17 dcook        Just read the LJ article ;)
22:19 wizzyrea     so fantastic. glad someone who really deserves it got it
22:21 dcook        Agreed.
22:21 dcook        Apparently Galen's wife is a LJ reviewer? 4500 personal book collection?
22:21 * dcook      thinks he brought a grand total of 3 books from Canada this past trip.
22:21 dcook        Life of a nomad, I suppose
22:22 gmcharlt     dcook: we've done the life of a nomad thing ourselves
22:22 gmcharlt     just ... very heavily burdened nomads :)
22:22 dcook        hehe
22:22 dcook        I've had a few friends who have moved their book collections with them as they've gone
22:23 gmcharlt     and since you mention it, I will shamelessly plug my wife's blog: http://readingreality.net
22:23 dcook        Admittedly, most of my tomes are in (acid-free) boxes in Saskatchewan. Maybe I'll get them shipped to Aus someday. Unless we move to Québec in a few years...
22:24 dcook        Cool. Thanks for the link, gmcharlt. I'll have to take a look/pass it around
22:28 sijobl       I'm not sure where the load manifests itself, if it's th eload of the dump on the main server, then that would probably solve the problem
22:28 sijobl       oops
22:31 eythian      wrongwindow.com
22:31 sijobl       no, failure to hit tab before typing
22:31 sijobl       as you do
22:54 eythian      http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Building_Debian_Packages#Configuring_Pbuilder <-- note that with the new key, you may need to run through these instructions again to re-set up package build environments to handle the new keys
23:13 eythian      #     Tried to use 'Koha::Plugins::Base'.
23:13 eythian      #     Error:  Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (2) at /tmp/buildd/koha-3.11/blib/PERL_MODULE_DIR/C4/Context.pm line 803.
23:13 eythian      grr.
23:22 cait         oh
23:22 cait         hey eythian
23:23 cait         @later tell oleonard I tested with packages kyle provided for offline circ and the current plugin and it worked fine - what kind of problems are you seeing?
23:23 huginn       cait: The operation succeeded.