Time Nick Message 23:37 jenkins_koha Starting build #1076 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #1073 3 days 23 hr ago) 23:35 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Merge branch 'bug_9436' into 3.12-master <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=8447aeccdbe10e3586c9707bb6a99a3e47d9908f> / Bug 9436 [Revised] Use DataTables on cities administration page <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=a2f9346f1d2858bd87d68593b39bd8775b1731b8> / Merge branch 'bug_9466' into 3.12-master <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff; 23:23 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9690 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Passed QA , Replace YUI buttons on the catalog search results page with Bootstrap 23:23 jcamins You know, I have equivocated on bug 9690 long enough. I am pushing it. 23:20 jcamins Obviously I don't particularly object, or I wouldn't have pushed the code in the first place. 23:20 jcamins Oh, I don't, I just don't see how this captcha helps. 23:19 gmcharlt I'm not saying that the captcha itself is a good idea, but I wouldn't ununderetimate the desire of spammers / bored kills to play games 23:19 jcamins I think I read an article about how the "difficult" captchas are now more likely to cause problems for people than bots. 23:19 gmcharlt well, they might be if the feature got fleshed out a bit -- presumably many would still have to verify identify / residence of the patron for them to actual exercise privileges 23:18 jcamins And it's so stupidly easy to break if someone wants to automate account creation that it provides no deterrent. 23:17 jcamins I mean, it's not like librarians are aware that someone tried to create an account. 23:17 jcamins gmcharlt: Yeah, but... what possible value does it provide? 23:15 wahanui a captcha is bad. I'm "normal" and I can't get it half the time, must be so frustrating for differently abled people. 23:15 gmcharlt jcamins: a captcha? 23:10 jcamins What is the point of having people copy and paste a random "verification" string when registering an account? 22:54 jcamins gmcharlt++ 22:05 * druthb tries again. 21:58 druthb o/ 21:46 maximep thanks for the link, will look more at it 21:45 wahanui it has been said that interesting is sometimes good and sometimes bad 21:45 maximep hmmm interesting 21:43 gmcharlt maximep: use - see http://manual.koha-community.org/3.10/en/processinglocations.html 21:41 maximep it says koha has it 21:41 maximep hmmm http://features.galecia.com/features/checkin/reshelving-status 21:34 gmcharlt yep, it's something LBA and crew put together 21:34 gmcharlt yeah, there's a cronjob that handles updating the status from reshelving to available based on the specified interval 21:34 maximep I didn't know there was a "Open Source ILS Feature Comparison Tool" comparing koha and evergreen o_O 21:33 maximep "Ability for returned items to take on a current location of 'reshelving' for a library specified period of time before they revert to their destination location/collection" 21:33 maximep oh, evergreen seems to have something like that 21:31 maximep gmcharlt: yes! great term for it 21:31 tcohen yes gmcharlt, the right idiomatic expression didn't come out :-D 21:30 gmcharlt or rather, reshelving internval? 21:30 gmcharlt maximep: tcohen: a shelving internval? 21:28 tcohen maybe a Zebra indexer daemon? 21:27 * tcohen is thinking what patch can he write before jcamins deadline 21:24 maximep exact 21:24 tcohen right? 21:24 tcohen didn't thought of it, the idea is making the users aware through koha that the item is not yet available 21:23 tcohen most of our libraries do that with books, to check them being broken and such 21:21 tcohen terminology borrowed from DSpace 21:21 maximep but i guess 21:21 maximep embargo is a weird word for it lol 21:21 tcohen hmm, an embargo period (sort of) 21:17 maximep so when you the user checks in an ipad, it can't be lent for a period 21:17 maximep be able to have an item type like "eletronics" where you can add a time between checkouts 21:17 maximep let's try again 21:16 maximep =) 21:16 tcohen (my intention was to blame my english) 21:16 huginn gmcharlt: The operation succeeded. 21:16 gmcharlt @later tell jcamins easy peasy, I'll have a patch for 9820 posted shortly 21:15 maximep as a french speaker, sometimes I'm not explaining myself clearly :p 21:15 tcohen as a spanish speaking person I didn't understand what you are proposing 21:14 maximep would that be interesting for anyone ? 21:12 maximep having a period for a document type where the item isn't available 21:12 maximep if you land something like an ipad that needs to be recharged 21:11 maximep hey, it's getting late to ask this, but i'm wondering how you guys do something and if it would be a cool feature 21:07 tcohen what should I rise bgkriegel's karma for? 21:06 jcamins So long, #koha. 21:05 jcamins bgkriegel++ 21:00 * gmcharlt looks 20:59 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9820 normal, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Missing space between 100/700 $a and $c (MARC21/XSLT) 20:59 jcamins Bug 9820 is annoying. 20:58 jcamins You have three hours. 20:57 jcamins You have been warned again of the impending feature slush. 20:57 jcamins Okay, #koha. 20:50 jcamins (yes, I know, I just cataloged a book with a fore edge painting by Titian's cousin!) 20:50 * jcamins contemplates this fore edge painting by Titian's cousin and assistant, considers the fact that it's pretty much the high point to his week, cataloging-wise, and decides to end on that triumphal note. 20:29 jcamins Probably not a feature. 20:28 jcamins Upgrading to 3.10 from 3.6 broke the maximum limit on fixed fields. 20:27 wahanui interesting is sometimes good and sometimes bad 20:27 jcamins Oh, interesting. 19:38 tcohen bye #koha, have a nice weekend 19:37 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=900 enhancement, P2, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Unimarc Authorities 19:37 tcohen oh, i thought it was the oldest standing bug, but it appears that bug 900 is 7 days older 19:31 tcohen :-P 19:31 tcohen oh, u want me to take full responsability for it? 19:30 cait :) 19:30 cait tcohen: maybe assign the bug to yourself? 19:28 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=906 enhancement, P2, ---, chris, Needs Signoff , ISBN Check 19:28 tcohen bug 906 19:20 wahanui valid isbn13 is probably 9784873113685 19:20 tcohen valid isbn13 19:20 wahanui valid isbn10 is 291409891X 19:20 tcohen valid isbn10 18:46 jcamins tcohen: Yes. 18:45 tcohen should it go under "Record structure" jcamins? 18:41 wahanui system preferences is http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/System_Preferences 18:41 jcamins system preferences? 18:41 tcohen yes, but where on the wiki wahanui? 18:41 wahanui sysprefs are "System Preferences", found on my Koha admin homepage 18:41 tcohen sysprefs? 18:33 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9370 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Signed Off , use Library::CallNumber::LC when splitting LC call numbers for spine labels 18:33 cait bug 9370 18:31 tcohen i've just noticed because hacking those files last hours 18:31 cait brain tired 18:31 cait tcohen: um ok :) 18:30 tcohen cait, mandatory fields are handled in javascript, with data fetched from addbiblio.pl on load time 18:30 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9755 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Signed Off , Record merge code needs to be refactored 18:30 cait bug 9755 18:28 tcohen was an old screenshot 18:28 jcamins tcohen++ 18:27 jcamins Yay! 18:27 tcohen i've already fixed the wording as you suggested 18:26 jcamins tcohen: my suggested wording is a little more idiomatic, but it looks good to me generally. 18:25 tcohen uff, my typing skills... obviously its friday 18:25 tcohen ciat, jcamins http://pegarlo.es/ky 18:25 cait bgallagher: cya on sunday :) 18:25 jcamins Right. But making ISBN mandatory would be bad. 18:24 cait so that is probably different 18:24 cait at least it triggers for mandatory fields when they are empty 18:24 cait well 18:24 cait hm but we do that 18:24 jcamins I think. 18:24 jcamins cait: the plugins can be triggered when you click a field, but they can't be triggered to check that a field is good before saving. 18:23 cait triggered on validation? 18:23 cait jcamins: I believe you - but can oyu explain a bit? 18:23 cait have a safe trip! 18:23 cait bgallagher: excited too!! 18:23 jcamins cait: I'm not sure it could be for this, since the plugins aren't triggered on validation. 18:23 bgallagher Hey cait getting ready to board my plane - I'm on my way towards you all! I'm excited ! 18:22 cait but I also like the pref idea and name :) 18:22 cait plugins are little perl scripts that are linked to a field, that way you can do it by framework 18:22 cait I was just thinking that might be the usual way of dealing with things like that 18:21 tcohen elaborate cait 18:21 cait tcohen: hm could it be a catalouging plugin too? 18:21 jcamins RequireValidISBN in the Cataloging tab? 18:20 tcohen maube pizza 18:20 jcamins tcohen: ooooh. 18:20 tcohen i'll bake cookies for you if you propose a name for the syspref 18:19 jcamins tcohen: syspref controlled, and how about: "The ISBN you entered seems invalid. If you entered it exactly as it appears on the item, put it in 020$z." 18:18 tcohen quick poll: on cataloguing, if the ISBN is found invalid, should we enforce the use of $z to put it there? should it be syspref controlled? 17:37 jcamins Wow. The authority functionality in 3.10 really is lightyears ahead of 3.6's. 17:28 rambutan np 17:28 kf :) 17:28 tcohen thanks rambutan 17:27 tcohen (of course <field> matches MARC21/NORMARC and UNIMARC corresponding fields) 17:26 rambutan If that's how it appears on your item then put it in <field>$z 17:26 wahanui i guess the rest is just distraction 17:26 tcohen and the rest? 17:25 rambutan The ISBN you entered seems invalid. 17:21 tcohen an english speaker please? 17:19 wahanui it has been said that valid isbn13 is 9784873113685 17:19 tcohen valid isbn13? 17:18 tcohen wording: is this ok? "The ISBN you introduced seems invalid. It that's how it appears on your item then put it on <field>$z" 17:17 kf me too 17:00 jcamins Now I want pizza. 17:00 jcamins Pizza. 17:00 jcamins Mmm. 17:00 magnuse (without butter) 17:00 drojf kitchen stories :P 16:59 * magnuse makes pizza 16:59 magnuse hehe 16:59 jcamins "This is the Norwegian in his natural habitat. Notice the packages of butter filling the refrigerator. Scientists speculate..." 16:58 jcamins :) 16:58 magnuse better come visit us and do some first hand studies, then! :-) 16:58 magnuse lol 16:57 jcamins Way more interesting than the marmite shortage. 16:57 jcamins magnuse: your country has become one of my preferred topics of conversation ever since I heard about the Norwegian butter crisis. 16:56 magnuse ah :-) 16:56 jcamins magnuse: Wikipedia. 16:55 magnuse jcamins: where did you see that number? 16:54 drojf exactly :D 16:54 jcamins drojf: a small piece of butter for a large beer! 16:53 drojf i could have exchanged a piece of butter for a bottle of beer :P 16:53 jcamins lol 16:53 drojf the craziest thing is that i did not go there with smuggled butter 16:53 drojf yeah it's crazy 16:51 jcamins I can't get over the fact that a month-long butter shortage cost a country 43mil Euro. 16:49 drojf hahaha 16:49 jcamins In fact, 1BTC could pay for one pound of butter at Norwegian butter crisis prices. 16:49 jcamins drojf: very expensive. Almost $50. 16:48 drojf but well, i think they are quite expensive at the moment. i should check that with electricity prices :) 16:47 jcamins A friend gave them to me. 16:47 jcamins drojf: pretty much. 16:46 drojf isn't bitcoin basically getting some virtual currency for paying a lot of electricity? 16:46 kf where did you get them? 16:46 kf oh 16:46 * jcamins has no idea what they're good for. 16:45 * jcamins has 0.84 BTC. 16:44 jcamins A proof-of-concept for a wholly virtual currency. 16:44 slef I know an online chocolate shop that takes BTC payment 16:44 jcamins Bitcoins. 16:43 kf jcamins: btc? 16:41 magnuse slef: no bug report from me because my first hypothesis was that the missing data was caused by a faulty setup 16:32 jcamins Sometimes you can even get cookies for BTC, but only if you know the right person. 16:30 jcamins You can get VPS hosting with BTC. 16:30 jcamins BTC? 16:29 rambutan I want some virtual money to pay virtual companies for real, tangible products and services. 16:27 jcamins Harvard Business Review. 16:26 kf hbr? 16:24 bgallagher Cool I will look for it thanks Jared 16:23 jcamins bgallagher: I just left your other nick a message about there being an article about virtual offices on the HBR blog. 16:17 slef just in case it was me failing 16:17 slef magnuse++ too 16:17 slef yeah I got confused what he meant I think 16:16 kf lol - magnuse said that earlier - I think it only got lost :) 16:16 slef kf++ again 16:16 slef bwahahaahahaah 16:15 slef kf: oooh good point 16:15 kf because it should not be there.. but with libraries you never know :) 16:15 kf slef: can you check if the DUE ended up in notice triggers for overdues? 16:15 * slef wonders how to make the enhancedmessaging setup work, or whether to punt this until magnuse reports back 16:14 huginn jcamins: The operation succeeded. 16:14 jcamins @later tell bag There is an article on the HBR blog about 100% virtual companies. 16:14 kf slef: that's probably why yours has a patch ;) 16:08 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9296 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, mjr, Signed Off , overduerules table needs restructuring to allow future extension 16:08 slef jcamins: bug 9296 is mine but that's less radical 16:07 slef jcamins: unsurprisingly, we may have a duplicate 16:07 jcamins Overhauling the overdue rules. 16:06 slef jcamins: which? :) 16:06 jcamins slef: I thought that was your bug? 16:06 slef true but not quite what I was aiming for 16:06 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=4171 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, cnighswonger, NEW , overduerules.pl needs an overhaul 16:06 slef hrmph only found bug 4171 at first attempt 16:05 christophe_c see you monday magnuse ;-) good trip 16:05 * slef tries to find magnuse's bug report 16:04 slef bye magnuse :-/ 16:04 magnuse oh well, gotta run - see some of you on monday!! :-) 16:04 slef oh this is quite common with Big Sites... they define at-risk periods 16:04 reiveune bye 16:04 huginn magnuse: Quote #123: "rangi: #thingsihavelearnt if there is a mad scheme a library somewhere will be doing it ... except madder" (added by wizzyrea at 09:20 PM, March 30, 2011) 16:04 wahanui http://xkcd.com/1172/ 16:04 magnuse @quote get 123 16:03 huginn magnuse: (quote get [<channel>] <id>) -- Gets the quote with id <id> from the quote database for <channel>. <channel> is only necessary if the message isn't sent in the channel itself. 16:03 wahanui http://xkcd.com/1172/ 16:03 magnuse @quote get 123 ? 16:03 magnuse huh? :-) 16:03 slef they're 3.08.03.000 as I think they can only upgrade on certain dates 16:03 magnuse but i have not checked the code to see if that backs up my theory 16:03 magnuse the only difference i have seen between the two setups is where the messages were triggered 16:02 slef EnhancedMessagingPreferences is set 16:02 slef this is 3.8.something 16:02 magnuse it's 3.8.10 16:02 slef magnuse: aha, I'll check if they've EnhancedMessaging on 16:02 magnuse i have another library running off the same code where it works 16:01 magnuse slef: i was working on the assumption that it had something to do with the messages being sent from "Overdue notice/status triggers" and not from the enhanced messaging setup. i only fixed that properly today, so i will have to see if that affected things next time it is run 16:01 slef (with bits before and after which are working) 16:01 slef <<biblio.title>> by <<biblio.author>> 16:01 slef The following item is now due: 16:00 kf wht does their template look like? 16:00 kf slef: so title is there in the database? 16:00 tcohen this doesn't look good 16:00 magnuse slef: not sure. the one i checked i had both author and title in the db 15:59 wahanui slef: I forgot any idea why 15:59 slef wahanui: forget any idea why 15:59 wahanui any idea why is this error message Server access denied 15:59 slef magnuse: any idea why? 15:59 magnuse slef: yes, i have DUE without the bibliographic details 15:58 jcamins However, my fingers are crossed that you are right. :) 15:57 jcamins I think that the mandatory fields may be marked as such in the markup. 15:57 tcohen so it shuold be do-able 15:57 tcohen the ui manages to find the mandatory fields of the form, 15:56 jcamins tcohen: it's entirely random. 15:55 tcohen but * is just some random stuff 15:55 tcohen tag_020_subfield_a_* 15:55 slef tcohen: look at the id attribute 15:55 tcohen document.getElementById, how cna I calculate the id? 15:55 jcamins Not easily, to my knowledge. 15:55 jcamins Ah. 15:54 slef kf++ author is NULL... but why was title blank too? 15:54 tcohen i want to read the isbn from the cataloguing form 15:53 wahanui "What are you trying to do?" or "What is the goal?" 15:53 jcamins the first question? 15:53 jcamins tcohen: where? 15:53 tcohen I need to get the contents of a field/subfield, do we have js for that already? 15:52 slef checking old_issues 15:52 slef ah oops probably 15:52 kf perhaps it's been given back by now? 15:51 slef DUE, I think. Bizarrely, I can't see anything in issues for the borrower named in the notice they've posted :-/ 15:49 kf also, how are their notices formatted? DUE or DUEDGST? 15:48 kf but for example a corporate author instead in ... 110? 15:48 slef kf: I'm trying to check that now 15:48 kf author is often empty when there is no 100 15:48 kf filled 15:47 kf are they filed in the database? 15:47 slef Got a library commenting that <<biblio.title>> and <<biblio.author>> are blank in their DUE notices. Anyone seen that? 15:47 jcamins The parentheses should be around the entire thing not each term separately. 15:46 tcohen would be valid then 15:46 tcohen [% IF ( marcflavour == 'MARC21' ) || ( marcflavour == 'NORMARC' ) %] 15:46 jcamins There is an or operator. 15:46 slef perldoc Template::Manual::Directives says yes 15:46 jcamins Then, yes. 15:46 tcohen will it work? 15:46 slef perldoc Template::Manual::Directives says yes 15:45 tcohen || exactly 15:45 jcamins Or do you mean || 15:45 slef tcohen: I think we do but I may be confusing it with python. perldoc Template::Manual::Syntax looks like it might not 15:45 jcamins tcohen: [% ELSE %]? 15:43 wahanui i guess oleonard is still here, if you just wish hard enough. or Koha's master UI designer 15:43 tcohen oleonard? 15:42 tcohen do we have an OR in template::toolkit's IF ? 15:38 kf not using Unimarc 15:38 magnuse normarc = marc21 in that respect (phew) 15:38 kf not sure 15:38 tcohen ? 15:38 tcohen 010 for UNIMARC 15:38 kf maybe 010 like mentioned in the bug? 15:38 kf i know it's a different field, but I forget which 15:37 tcohen (020$a) 15:37 tcohen isbn is 020 for MARC21, what about UNIMARC or NORMARC? 15:30 wahanui well, coffee is mostly not Brooke's medicine 15:30 rambutan wahanui: coffee? 15:24 wahanui OK, tcohen. 15:24 tcohen wahanui: a valid isbn10 is 291409891X 15:24 tcohen btw 15:16 kf happens to me too 15:16 kf ah :) 15:16 gmcharlt (oops, nothing like responding to outdated scrollback; context was some joking about the karma value of 'windows') 15:15 kf gmcharlt: hm? 15:15 gmcharlt so _that's_ why billg was in #koha that one day! 15:15 wahanui valid isbn13 is, like, 9784873113685 15:15 tcohen valid isbn13? 15:15 wahanui OK, tcohen. 15:15 tcohen wahanui: a valid isbn13 is 9784873113685 15:13 wahanui i guess isbn is the international standard book number 15:13 kf isbn? 15:13 kf wahanui: isbn is the international standard book number 15:13 kf rambutan: he doesn't know all and everything 15:09 rambutan wahanui: isbn? 15:08 wahanui http://marc-must-die.info 15:08 rambutan wahanui: marc? 15:08 tcohen isbn13? 15:07 rambutan where are the bots? wahanui should have some response 15:06 rambutan isbn? 15:06 huginn tcohen: Error: No such location could be found. 15:06 tcohen @wunder isbn13 15:06 huginn rambutan: The current temperature in Jomtien, Jomtien, Thailand is 28.1°C (9:50 PM ICT on March 15, 2013). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 89%. Dew Point: 26.0°C. Pressure: 29.95 in 1014 hPa (Steady). 15:06 rambutan @wunder pattaya 15:05 huginn rambutan: The current temperature in Sala Thammasop, Thawi Watthana, Thailand is 28.1°C (9:55 PM ICT on March 15, 2013). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 73%. Dew Point: 23.0°C. Pressure: 29.92 in 1013 hPa (Steady). 15:05 rambutan @wunder bangkok 15:05 tcohen anyone with a valid isbn13? 13:49 ambz :) 13:49 ambz perhaps I should start reading tNc agreements before clicking on "I accept" 13:48 ambz wow 13:42 jeff this is common in many terms of service. 13:42 jeff > GitHub, in its sole discretion, has the right to suspend or terminate your account and refuse any and all current or future use of the Service, or any other GitHub service, for any reason at any time. 13:42 jeff sure. 13:37 ambz slef: i haven't provided my full legal name on github... can they really nuke my commits? 13:24 slef bbi60+ 13:23 huginn slef: The current temperature in Gedney Hill, Spalding, United Kingdom is 8.2°C (1:16 PM GMT on March 15, 2013). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 75%. Dew Point: 4.0°C. Windchill: 4.0°C. Pressure: 29.62 in 1003 hPa (Steady). 13:23 slef @wunder EGCL 13:22 slef pull requests, not patch requests, sorry. 13:22 slef ambz: its patch requests and issue tracker are incompatible with git, its source is secret, registration is required and they demand your full legal name to register as a user, on pain of nuking your changes. 13:17 ambz slef: how is it nasty? 13:15 slef convenient but nasty 13:15 slef github is nasty :( 13:12 kf or a regex you coud steal :) 13:10 magnuse yeah Business::ISBN is the one to look at 13:08 kf tcohen: maybe there are still some useful hints 13:07 kf tcohen++ for working on long standing stuff :) 13:07 tcohen hmm, i thought it should be done at javascript level 13:07 kf i think it could be this: http://search.cpan.org/~bdfoy/Business-ISBN-2.05/lib/ISBN.pm 13:06 kf i remember koha exploding when you forgot to add it :) 13:06 kf isbn business or similar I think 13:06 tcohen i'll look for it 13:06 kf so you wouldn't have to figure it out yourself 13:06 kf tcohen: not sure, but we have a module dealing with isbn - maybe that provides a check for validity already? 13:05 tcohen s/IN/ISBN/ 13:05 tcohen jcamins: what other symbols might I strip for IN calculation? 13:03 kf how do you feel? ready to push? :) 13:03 kf morning jcamins :) 12:59 jcamins There are conflicting standards. 12:59 jcamins No. 12:58 tcohen should we enforce ISBN without dash? 12:51 magnuse tcohen: :-) 12:50 tcohen oh, i tend to think everyone loved tennis magnuse, sorry 12:49 magnuse ooh, that's a nice old bug to get rid of... 12:49 * magnuse has no clue to what "DelPo beat Murray at IW" means ;-) 12:47 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=906 enhancement, P2, ---, chris, NEW , ISBN Check 12:47 tcohen I meant bug 906 12:46 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=960 normal, P2, ---, chris, CLOSED FIXED, Link to member in circulation 12:46 tcohen thinking of providing a quick patch for bug 960 also magnuse 12:46 tcohen hoping the day ends soon, so I can see DelPo beat Murray at IW 12:43 magnuse and yourself? 12:43 magnuse doing good, starting to sink in that i'm going to marseille on sunday :-) 12:42 tcohen how r u doin magnuse 12:39 magnuse hiya tcohen 12:37 tcohen hi #koha 12:31 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Marseille, France is 7.0°C (1:00 PM CET on March 15, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 34%. Dew Point: -8.0°C. Windchill: 1.0°C. Pressure: 29.86 in 1011 hPa (Steady). 12:31 magnuse @wunder marseille 12:31 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is -2.0°C (1:20 PM CET on March 15, 2013). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 64%. Dew Point: -8.0°C. Windchill: -8.0°C. Pressure: 29.71 in 1006 hPa (Steady). 12:31 magnuse @wunder boo 12:16 magnuse Branches 2,521 - hehe 12:15 magnuse jcamins++ 12:15 * jcamins just updated the Github repo to tell people it's a mirror. 12:14 ambz Yeah I love github :) 12:14 magnuse yeah, github is convenient :-) 12:14 ambz I'll use the github repo, since I'm more familiar with github (and it has a nice code browser and other features). 12:13 ambz magnuse: thanks. 12:13 magnuse ambz: they should be in sync, but the one on koha-community.org is the official one 12:12 ambz ? 12:12 ambz I'm forking the codebase. Is it okay to use git://github.com/Koha-Community/Koha.git or git://git.koha-community.org/koha.git? Are they both in sync (or the same repository)> 12:10 wahanui hey, ambz 12:10 ambz Hi 12:00 magnuse of course ;-) 11:58 kf and some evil bugs and regressions *sigh* 11:55 magnuse hm, there might be things in there that are really enhs 11:52 magnuse yeah, all bugs by severity and status: 940... http://bit.ly/1406oeA 11:49 kf but lots of filed bugs remain... untouched 11:49 kf not currently 11:48 magnuse wow, i would have guessed that was ~50/50 or thereabouts 11:47 magnuse only 23 "needs signoff" are bugfixes 11:46 magnuse 110 bugs found for Severity: enhancement, new feature + Status: Needs Signoff 11:46 kf there is always so much I woud like to do :( 11:46 kf I might take a look at those too 11:45 kf there are some things our libraries have been asking for 11:45 magnuse i'm thinking i will focus mostly on bugfixes and finding bugs next week, unless there are some really tasty enh that i would like to see make it in :-) 11:44 magnuse hehe, yeah 11:43 slef so the other question is: who will offer us the best incentives to signoff and QA review their enh/new bugs? ;-) 11:41 kf but not sure how one can 11:41 kf finding the right mix between fixing critical bugs and enhancements might be the thing 11:30 magnuse as far as i understand 11:30 magnuse slef: yeah, for enh where the patch is already in bugzilla, the coming week is the last chance to get in 11:29 slef phone 11:29 slef magnuse: yeah, so do you think reviewing enh until 22nd seems best? 11:28 magnuse http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Roadmap_to_3.12 11:28 magnuse i read that as patches for enhancements need to be attached to bugs by today 11:27 magnuse slef: "Starting on March 15, any patch adding a new feature or enhancement which has not already been attached to a bug on Bugzilla (or submitted to Koha via git branch) will not be considered for inclusion in Koha 3.12. " 11:22 slef Am I right to think that my best tactic is to make sure all our enh are in bugzilla today, then to review/signoff enh/new bugs next week, then switch back to bugfixes? 11:21 slef sent reminder to ptfs-europe to get that ILL enh into bugs 11:04 shanreta ok thanks kf 11:04 kf I don't have the time to help you right now, but maybe try an email to the mailing list 11:02 shanreta i see ways to rename the current fields 11:02 shanreta yeah i've looked there 11:01 shanreta good cause i'm new to jquery 11:01 wahanui i heard jquery library was found at http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/JQuery_Library 11:01 kf jquery library 11:01 kf it actually is not that hard to do 11:01 kf you can use jquery to move the elements around 11:01 shanreta oh boy 11:01 kf it's hardcoded in the template 11:00 shanreta something must set the current order 11:00 shanreta ok 10:35 kf css would not work 10:35 kf you could do it with jquery 10:35 kf sorry shanreta - lots to do here 10:31 wahanui privet, shanreta 10:31 shanreta hello 10:26 drojf yes, great idea :D 10:26 magnuse drojf: ouch! 10:24 wahanui ...but quote #123: "rangi: #thingsihavelearnt if there is <reply>... 10:24 huginn wahanui: Quote #123: "rangi: #thingsihavelearnt if there is a mad scheme a library somewhere will be doing it ... except madder" (added by wizzyrea at 09:20 PM, March 30, 2011) 10:24 huginn drojf: I suck 10:24 wahanui @quote get 123 10:24 drojf @quote 123 10:23 drojf magnuse: the default framework was changed and the koha fields removed for 952_ab 09:57 shanreta which usually means it is too difficult or too easy :) 09:56 shanreta i haven't been able to find anything on this particular issue anywhere on the list or in the library 09:55 shanreta we are running 3.10 at the moment 09:55 shanreta or is it just js? 09:54 shanreta i assume there is some jquery changes involved as well as css? 09:54 shanreta then author, subject, and title phrase 09:54 shanreta so 'title keyword' is first 09:54 shanreta we would like to change the search order dropdown 09:53 shanreta this is not working well for us at the moment 09:53 shanreta the default search on the front page is 'library catalogue' 09:52 kf it depends on what you want to do - can you describe your problem a bit more? 09:50 shanreta has anyone done this? 09:50 shanreta i have a question about changing search order? 09:49 wahanui hello, mib_c075j9 09:49 mib_c075j9 hi 09:49 alohabot Hi mib_c075j9, Welcome to #koha. 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If you need any help, just ask - there's usually someone around to help :) 09:39 kf hm than it's probably not the reason :( 09:36 drojf hm but there was no sample data 09:35 kf the sample data has no branch code 09:35 kf did you check the holiday related tables? 09:35 drojf my $calendar = Koha::Calendar->new( branchcode => $branch ); 09:34 magnuse what does the line in Circulation.pm look like? 09:32 drojf there was nothing in holidays. i added sunday. same error 09:28 drojf yes 09:28 kf for item too? 09:28 drojf yes branch is there 09:28 drojf good question. there was also no default rule for checkouts but that did not change anything 09:28 kf and does the user have a proper branch? 09:27 kf for holidays? 09:27 kf did you load sample data? 09:27 kf drojf: hmmm 09:24 magnuse ok, no idea then :-( 09:24 drojf no, i'm logged in as myself 09:24 magnuse drojf: you're not logged in as the db user, right? 09:20 drojf when i try to check out an item i get »No branchcode argument passed to Koha::Calendar->new at /usr/share/koha/lib/C4/Circulation.pm line 3036« in a 3.10.2 from tarball 08:42 magnuse bonjour! 08:32 christophe_c hi #koha 08:24 drojf good morning #koha 08:23 drojf jcamins++ kf++ 08:19 magnuse very windy today, though 08:19 magnuse kf: the forecast for next week is not too bad, though! http://www.yr.no/place/France/Provence-Alpes-C%C3%B4te_d%E2%80%99Azur/Vieux-Port/long.html 08:11 kf hm 08:09 huginn kf: The current temperature in Marseille, France is 3.0°C (9:00 AM CET on March 15, 2013). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 52%. Dew Point: -6.0°C. Windchill: -5.0°C. Pressure: 29.80 in 1009 hPa (Rising). 08:09 kf @wunder Marseille 08:09 huginn kf: The current temperature in Konstanz, Germany is -3.0°C (9:00 AM CET on March 15, 2013). Conditions: Light Snow. Humidity: 70%. Dew Point: -7.0°C. Pressure: 30.03 in 1017 hPa (Rising). 08:09 kf @wunder Konstanz 08:05 asaurat hi 08:04 kf good morning #koha 07:39 reiveune hello 07:28 * magnuse waves 03:21 bag welcome back mtj 03:09 bag oh man that comment scared away mtj 03:06 bag But my dad is very proud that finally somewhere in my life I am using bag :P 03:06 bag gmcharlt I really wish I still had the nick brendan instead of bag 03:05 wizzyrea nearly :) 03:05 gmcharlt :) 03:05 bag wizzyrea isn't it beer time there? 03:05 bag gmcharlt: HA from the @later 03:04 wizzyrea hi :) 03:04 bag Hi wizzyrea 03:03 wahanui wizzyrea: I forgot evening 03:03 wizzyrea forget evening 03:03 wahanui evening is better for me - but not too late 03:03 bag evening 02:17 wahanui okay, eythian. 02:17 eythian no wahanui, csvtomarc is <reply>the latest version is at https://gitorious.org/+catalyst-koha/catalyst-koha-migration-toolbox - improvements welcome 02:17 wizzyrea slef++ 02:17 wizzyrea hehe no it was mjr 02:16 wizzyrea if not, good work whoever did :P 02:16 * wizzyrea wonders if she did that 02:16 wizzyrea OH SNAP. 02:16 cjh hahaha 02:16 wahanui csvtomarc is an external script to help with migrations. 02:16 eythian wahanui: csvtomarc 02:16 wahanui forums are http://koha-community.org/support/forums/ 02:16 wizzyrea forums? 02:15 wahanui OK, eythian. 02:15 eythian wahanui: listserv is <reply>try 'mailing list', $who 02:15 wahanui OK, eythian. 02:15 eythian wahanui: lists is <reply>try 'listserv', $who 00:54 trea there we go 00:54 wahanui mailing list is at http://koha-community.org/support/koha-mailing-lists/ 00:54 trea mailing list? 00:53 trea listserv? 00:53 trea lists?