Time Nick Message
00:35 melia rangi: I have another question for you, if you're willing :)
00:35 melia should I be looking for bug 5790 in stable 3.10.4? or is it in there already?
00:35 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5790 normal, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Pushed to Master , Deleting a biblio should alert/fail if there are existent holds
00:37 melia or is it waiting for something else? the status has me confused
00:38 wizzyrea the patch originally submitted wouldn't work for 3.10
00:38 wizzyrea there is a new patch for 3.10, but you can look for this feature to be in 3.12
00:38 wizzyrea (for sure)
00:38 melia ok that makes sense. thanks wizzyrea!
00:38 wizzyrea sure :)
01:04 wizzyrea gosh koha looks pretty with bootstrap.
01:07 * dcook concurs
01:07 dcook I like pretty ^_^
01:08 dcook This first time I saw the Koha staff client, I was a little bit horrified by how...functionalist it appeared, so it's great to see its aesthetic improving in leaps and bounds
01:10 wizzyrea but, we need to do work on the OPAC too :/
01:16 dcook Mmm, good point
01:53 druthb o/
03:27 jcamins dcook: yeah, Koha's current record editor is a dead end.
03:28 dcook jcamins: Glad that you agree :)
03:28 dcook What do you think of rangi's solution/
03:28 dcook ?*
03:28 jcamins That's how I do it.
03:29 jcamins I think I probably have the distinction of writing the most cataloging interfaces EVER!!!!11111
03:29 dcook lol
03:29 dcook Is this a non-Koha thing or rather c&p specific thing?
03:29 jcamins Right now I'm number 5ish.
03:29 dcook Aren't I articulate :p
03:29 jcamins A lot of partially-finished interfaces.
03:29 jcamins Well, and interfaces that aren't for Koha.
03:30 jcamins My first interface was tightly coupled to Koha.
03:30 jcamins That was dumb.
03:30 jcamins So I killed it off.
03:30 dcook I am intrigued.
03:30 dcook I've wondered a bit, because you do rare book cataloguing as well, right?
03:32 jcamins Wait... that was the second interface.
03:32 jcamins My first interface was just a database-y thing.
03:32 jcamins That was pointless, because then I started using Koha.
03:32 jcamins Then came the tightly-coupled one.
03:33 jcamins Then came a textbox, similar to pianohacker's.
03:33 jcamins Pianohacker's never worked well for me.
03:33 jcamins Then came a nice friendly non-MARC interface for non-specialist cataloging.
03:34 jcamins Now I'm writing an awesome non-MARC interface for rare book (and everything else) cataloging.
03:34 dcook :D
03:35 dcook What type of metadata scheme are you using?
03:35 * dcook is apparently full of questions
03:35 jcamins "Whichever one you want."
03:36 jcamins I'll probably use MODS.
03:38 dcook Cool beans
03:38 dcook Any chance that is finding it's way over to Koha? :p
03:38 jcamins Not likely.
03:39 jcamins I mean, it'll be possible to crosswalk data into MARC and import it into Koha, and one could even set up an interface to Koha installations similar to what biblios had, but it wouldn't be integrated.
03:40 dcook Yeah, I was just thinking about that
03:41 dcook We were chatting a bit earlier over here about maybe possibly making another interface that would stand apart
03:42 wizzyrea @query plugin
03:42 huginn wizzyrea: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8334 enhancement, P1 - high, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Authority UNIMARC 100 field plugin
03:42 huginn wizzyrea: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=900 enhancement, P2, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Unimarc Authorities
03:42 huginn wizzyrea: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=1218 enhancement, P2, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , New plugin for MARC21 replacement cost
03:42 huginn wizzyrea: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=737 enhancement, P2, ---, magnus, NEW , Map of library in search system
03:42 huginn wizzyrea: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=1817 enhancement, P3, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , pagination links disrupt display on large result sets
03:42 wizzyrea @query more
03:42 huginn wizzyrea: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=1356 enhancement, P3, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Lose original search term when select "More options"
03:42 huginn wizzyrea: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=2906 enhancement, P3, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Holds ratios report should have more filters
03:42 huginn wizzyrea: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=4956 major, P5 - low, ---, alex.arnaud, NEW , ordering from external doesn't let you search more than 2
03:42 huginn wizzyrea: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7015 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, cnighswonger, NEW , Fixup Template Code to Accommodate More Variety of Label Styles
03:42 huginn wizzyrea: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8601 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, cnighswonger, NEW , Allow more pictures on Patron Cards
03:42 wizzyrea yea naw
03:42 dcook O_o
03:44 jcamins bug 7804
03:44 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7804 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle.m.hall, Passed QA , Add Koha Plugin System
03:44 jcamins That the one?
03:45 wizzyrea yea, but I gave up.
03:45 jcamins But I told you the bug number! :P
03:45 wizzyrea yep.
04:49 libsysguy i think we should implement this for logging https://github.com/escusado/console.meme
06:40 dcook night #koha
06:46 * magnuse waves
06:47 * cait wavesw
07:43 reiveune hello
07:44 magnuse bonjour!
07:45 magnuse @wunder marseille
07:45 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Marseille, France is 11.0°C (8:30 AM CET on March 07, 2013). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 94%. Dew Point: 10.0°C. Pressure: 29.59 in 1002 hPa (Rising).
07:46 magnuse @wunder boo
07:46 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is -2.0°C (8:20 AM CET on March 07, 2013). Conditions: Light Snow Showers. Humidity: 93%. Dew Point: -3.0°C. Windchill: -8.0°C. Pressure: 29.92 in 1013 hPa (Rising).
07:47 * magnuse does not quite like the looks of this: http://www.yr.no/place/France/Provence-Alpes-C%C3%B4te_d%E2%80%99Azur/Marseille/long.html snow?!? freezing?!? ;-)
07:49 christophe_c hello #koha
07:50 * cait waves and runs out
07:51 magnuse bonjour christophe_c
07:55 christophe_c hello magnuse ;-)
08:10 magnuse bonjour asaurat and paul_p
08:10 asaurat hello!
08:35 magnuse kf++
08:35 kf good morning #koha
08:48 christophe_c1 hi kf
08:48 magnuse ah, now we can start complaining about Viktor's computer going to sleep :-)
08:49 kf lol
08:49 kf Viktor++
08:49 kf hi christophe_c1: how is the weather today?
08:50 * kf wonders if jared would have ideas about cataloguing posters in marc21
08:53 Herwig hey koha
08:56 * magnuse thinks jared probably would ;-)
08:56 magnuse hiya Herwig
08:57 kf hiya Herwig
09:00 drojf good morning #koha
09:00 christophe_c1 bah, kf we are depleting the stock of bad weather ;-) cloudy weather today
09:03 christophe_c1 to be sure that we'll have sunny weather for the hackfest :)
09:03 magnuse sounds good!
09:04 magnuse this: http://www.yr.no/place/France/Provence-Alpes-C%C3%B4te_d%E2%80%99Azur/Marseille/long.html reports snow and freezing between now and the hackfest, though...
09:06 kf christophe_c1: excellent plan :)
09:08 christophe_c1 yes magnuse kf take your swimsuit and sunscreen :)
09:08 magnuse will do. and a thick sweater
09:08 magnuse and wool clothes for the kid :-)
09:09 christophe_c1 may be safer magnuse ;-)
09:10 magnuse yeah, we will be prepared for everything
09:10 magnuse (we are used to that from our own summers... :-)
09:10 christophe_c1 :-D
09:35 slef sunscreen and sweater? Sounds like England...
09:36 slef Don't like this weather? No problem! There'll be some more along in a few minutes...
09:58 magnuse hehe
10:43 tcohen mooorning #koha
10:46 kf_meeting morning tcohen
10:46 magnuse hiya tcohen
11:03 mtj hi all
11:04 mtj does anyone know if there is a way to set a default language in koha?
11:05 mtj if i make 3 lanagauges available, can i set 1 language to be the default?
11:06 mtj ..or does koha just choose 'the first available language' as the default
11:07 mtj or 'en' if available, if not choose the next language
11:11 tcohen we @UNC set them in the desired order directly in the DB
11:12 tcohen koha puts "en,es-ES", we change it to "es-ES,en" with a SQL query
11:12 mtj oooh, tcohen++ :)
11:15 tcohen I think oleonard should implement a way to reorder them in the UI
11:15 tcohen :-P
11:16 kf_meeting mtj: it also looks at the language settngs in browser and the cookie
11:18 mtj kf_meeting, yep, thanks
11:18 magnuse i think there is a bug for preferred language
11:19 magnuse bug 7224 is a bit related
11:19 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7224 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, frederic, NEW , Allow patrons to pick their own preferred language
11:19 magnuse bug 6481 is the main one i guess
11:19 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6481 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, frederic, NEW , Koha doesn't have a way to set a preferred language from system
11:26 kf jcamins: ping me when you are awake?
11:32 tcohen why not signing bug 9735 BTW?
11:32 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9735 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Needs Signoff , Choose language using URL parameters in any page
11:34 tcohen :_P
11:37 mtj yeah, tcohens fix didnt work for me
11:41 tcohen (the DB one?)
11:41 tcohen the order is: cookie, browser, prefs
11:41 tcohen bug 9735 add URL parameter in front of them
11:41 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9735 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Needs Signoff , Choose language using URL parameters in any page
11:58 mtj tcohen, ill try to sign-off on your patch tomorrow
13:13 oleonard Hey #koha
13:38 kf oleonard: hey :)
14:40 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Merge branch 'bug_9570' into 3.12-master <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=e5eb9a222fcc870b7c4feda50a7140f4be64bbc8> / Bug 9570 - view plain not working in ccsr <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=8129680afd9f7052432aae33190e057ebe72b595> / Merge branch 'bug_9620' into 3.12-master <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=203fb520db3d5cded56a
14:42 oleonard Yay, new commits!
14:42 jcamins Yep. I was trying to see if it took any less time if I did a whole bunch of pushing at once rather than every morning.
14:43 jcamins I think my conclusion is, "not really, no."
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14:46 oleonard jcamins: Now is the time when you show how awesome and fun being RM is. Need to recruit, remember?
14:46 jcamins oleonard: ... and I get to have tons of fun!
14:47 jcamins libsysguy: your concern about 9267 doesn't show up in Bugzilla.
14:47 libsysguy looking
14:48 libsysguy the splinter thing didn't work?
14:48 jcamins I think you forgot to publish your comment.
14:48 libsysguy ah ha!
14:48 libsysguy there we go
14:48 jcamins They're saved locally unless you publish them.
14:48 libsysguy my bad
14:48 libsysguy its published now
14:48 jcamins Ah.
14:48 jcamins Thanks.
14:48 libsysguy man all this new fangled technology
14:49 libsysguy GET OFF MY LAWN
14:49 libsysguy lol
14:52 jenkins_koha Starting build #1067 for job Koha_master (previous build: FIXED)
14:55 kf jcamins++
14:55 kf slides?
14:55 wahanui kf should be writing slides
15:00 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Merge branch 'bug_9586' into 3.12-master <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=821d0aa1c31f845d6d8b2329e7518a4c58b85975> / Bug 9586 - Remove $ENV{DEBUG} info from Member Template <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=96b6f39e7a51ce414083b15125685a37844c5f29> / Merge branch 'bug_9267' into 3.12-master <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=9ca04f
15:00 oleonard More slides kf?
15:01 kf oh yes :(
15:01 kf inspiration welcome
15:02 kf library conference in leipzig next week
15:03 * oleonard packages a box of extra-large inspiration and sends it to kf
15:03 kf thank you :)
15:03 ashimema Aynone got any advice on how to upgrade from 2.2liblime to current community.. it's turning out to be a real pain in the butt
15:03 kf migration
15:03 wahanui i think migration is hard or <reply>If only they were using Koha to start with...
15:03 kf 2.2 liblime? Can you give the exact version?
15:04 ashimema indeed.. migration
15:04 ashimema all i've got it a mysqldump..
15:04 oleonard ashimema: You have a new installation of Koha set up and you're trying to load that dump?
15:06 ashimema I have a new koha setup and running yep.. I've tried droping the db, and restoring the old one.. then upgrading with update22to30, then upgradedatabase.pl.. (adding the instruction on the wiki page for 22 to 30 upgrade in between)..
15:07 ashimema I've since tried exporting bib data and users from the old db and importing them using the bulkmarcimport (but the damn items fields in 952 changed.. so items didn't come in)..
15:07 kf ah ok, so you are on koha 2.2?
15:07 oleonard ashimema: Are you sure you were on 2.2? I doubt that Liblime would have had you on 2.x if you were a current customer
15:08 ashimema this is for a new customer of our.. and i think they've been self supporting for a long time.
15:08 kf ashimema: there was only a liblime vresion starting somewhere around 3.2... something I think
15:08 ashimema it's deffo 2.x somthing.
15:08 oleonard Liblime did not have a Liblime-branded version of 2.x
15:08 kf so that's good news
15:08 jcamins [off] LL had a lot of libraries on 2.2.
15:08 kf you only got a real real old version of koha
15:09 ashimema thought initialy it was 2.2 community.. but it doesn't seem to match 22's that i'm used upgrading.
15:09 oleonard In what way?
15:10 ashimema pass.. I worked out that bit long enough ago that i've forgotten whe i thought was different.
15:10 ashimema no beign very helpfull am i.. sorry. I'll try to gether my thoughts a bit.
15:10 oleonard ashimema: Is the only problem you're facing the problem of items not being imported?
15:11 ashimema nope..
15:12 oleonard ...
15:12 ashimema Just going on the upgrade route.. Searching fails to work (zebra won't do an initial build, spitting out all sorts of errors), users come accross but fields seem mismatched, and setting come accross but defaults aren't filled and of course some settings come in with nasties hidden (like the css sheets don't work etc)
15:13 ashimema was kinda clutching at straws to see if anyone had done a 22->30->310 in here recently
15:13 jcamins ashimema: you probably have biblionumber in 152.
15:14 jcamins But I've not done any 2.2 migrations.
15:14 kf ashimema: I think some have gone the route of exporting and reimporting
15:14 kf like exporting all records and reimporting into a new koha installation
15:14 kf same for borrowers etc.
15:15 kf I guess it's more transparent that way what is happening
15:15 oleonard Of course that assumes the data will load correctly into a newly-installed Koha 2.x...
15:15 jcamins oleonard: why can't we use btn and btn-mini on the Save button for bug 9690?
15:15 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9690 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Passed QA , Replace YUI buttons on the catalog search results page with Bootstrap
15:16 jcamins oleonard: exporting the MARC and importing it into 3.10.
15:16 ashimema kf: thats currently the route i'm trying to go down.. anyone got any advice on the best way to export from 22? bearing in mind i've just got an sqldump at the moment.. I tried setting up an old 22 koha jsut to be able to see what it should look like, but couldn't get the ancient requirements to install..
15:16 jcamins (two different thoughts)
15:17 kf ashimema: hm. 2.2 predates my appearance in the koha-community quite a lot :(
15:17 oleonard jcamins: Re: 9690, I left that out for the simple reason that I'm not converting any "plain" submit buttons at this time, only YUI buttons.
15:17 ashimema likewise..
15:17 jcamins oleonard: the height of the button is wrong, but surely we could fix that easily. Add a .submit.btn-mini CSS rule to shorten them.
15:17 jcamins oleonard: it feels like a regression because it's going from consistent to inconsistent.
15:17 ashimema sounds like my efforts in exporting and re-importing are the way forward.. i'll keep battling with it.
15:18 ashimema oleonard: loving the work on moving to bootstrap btw.
15:18 oleonard jcamins: I guess I'm wrong about that being a plain button. It is styled with YUI currently.
15:19 oleonard jcamins: Would you like a revised patch? A follow-up?
15:19 kf ashimema: good luck!
15:19 jcamins A follow-up would be perfect. :)
15:19 * kf votes for a follow-up
15:21 ashimema anyone know if there's a doc containing how the 952 used to be layd out in 2.2 (or rather after the 22to30 upgrade has been run and then move_marc_to_biblioitems.pl has also been run?)
15:21 jcamins I love these easy patches, BTW.
15:24 jcamins Ooh!
15:25 jcamins I like the way you did the Save dropdown on the MARC editor.
15:25 jcamins *Very* classy.
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15:26 oleonard Thanks jcamins ... but didn't I just do it like it was before, but in Bootstrap?
15:26 jcamins I also like the selection of the hard drive icon.
15:26 kf oleonard: just accept the compliments ;)
15:26 * oleonard hates to let the old floppy-disk-as-save icon go...
15:27 * oleonard is old-fashioned
15:27 * kf nods
15:27 jcamins It's the same functionality, but I think the styling is a lot nicer.
15:28 jcamins Possiby it's just default styling, but it's very nice default styling. :)
15:29 jcamins Awww. Wish you'd done the same on the Cataloging home page.
15:29 jcamins (though that would be a functionality change)
15:29 oleonard ?
15:30 jcamins Where if you click on the text of the button it creates a new record for you right away, and if you click on the down arrow it lets you choose which framework.
15:30 oleonard Hm, so a click on the button would simply use the default framework?
15:31 jcamins There would probably have to be a way to choose a default default framework.
15:31 jcamins Since I think most people do not use the default framework.
15:32 kf slides?
15:32 wahanui kf should be writing slides
15:35 kf oleonard: did you see my questions about missing plus symbols? :)
15:36 oleonard I think that was a case where there weren't icons before?
15:36 oleonard Easy to add them though.
15:36 jcamins Yeah, but I'd still like them. :P
15:36 jcamins On a new bug, of course.
15:40 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Merge branch 'bug_9649' into 3.12-master <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=0bebb0c75cda345be811ff78a41f3d6810f01318> / Bug 9649 - Replace YUI buttons on cataloging home page with Bootstrap <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=ba3c7481812fbb8776c3f95320dea0f82f3b7c83> / Merge branch 'bug_9672' into 3.12-master <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commi
15:42 jcamins Actually, maybe doing it intensively all at once _does_ save time.
15:42 oleonard Better like this? http://www.screencast.com/t/jTkPeOC178r
15:43 jcamins lol
15:44 jcamins How did you do that?
15:44 oleonard edited screenshot :)
15:44 jcamins Ah.
15:46 oleonard I know, I know... slides.
15:51 jcamins Do know know, I never saw the Library transfer limits page before.
15:59 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #1067: UNSTABLE in 1 hr 7 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/1067/
15:59 jenkins_koha * Jared Camins-Esakov: Bug 9574: Plack fixes for serials/subscription-add.pl
15:59 jenkins_koha * Jared Camins-Esakov: Bug 8620: Any index in DOM mode sensitive to -x flag of rebuild_zebra.pl
15:59 jenkins_koha * Chris Cormack: Bug 9656: Make logging to a file optional (for fines)
15:59 jenkins_koha * Jonathan Druart: Bug 9656: Followup Make logging to a file optional (for fines)
15:59 jenkins_koha * Jonathan Druart: Bug 9653: FIX collapse class is used by already Bootstrap
15:59 jenkins_koha * Katrin Fischer: Bug 9620: IncludeSeeFromInSearches and data in $9 subfields can break indexing
15:59 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9574 critical, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Pushed to Master , serials/subscription-add.pl does not work right under Plack
15:59 jenkins_koha * Owen Leonard: Bug 9570 - view plain not working in ccsr
15:59 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8620 critical, P5 - low, ---, martin.renvoize, Pushed to Master , Barcode searching not working correctly
15:59 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9656 major, P5 - low, ---, chris, Pushed to Master , fines.pl creating a log file should be optional
15:59 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9653 major, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , Filters on suggestion page in intranet are broken
15:59 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9620 major, P5 - low, ---, katrin.fischer, Pushed to Master , IncludeSeeFromInSearches ON and data in $9 subfields can break indexing
15:59 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9570 major, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , view plain not working in ccsr
16:00 jenkins_koha Starting build #1068 for job Koha_master (previous build: UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #1066 4 days 21 hr ago)
16:16 reiveune bye
16:23 nengard got a reports puzzler if anyone has a moment to help:
16:23 nengard I am trying to write a report that looks for biblio records with one or more items at homebranch A but then prints the item information for all of the items attached to the biblio record no matter what the homebranch is.
16:23 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Merge branch 'bug_8917' into 3.12-master <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=2bd3c85961ca878376f524c448d7ffb48bd7dfc3> / Bug 8917: Increment version number <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=65522e25ca8dd90b52e206288b6d0e51213a5b63> / Bug 8917: replaces tab with spaces <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=41929aa8eecdcdf21f1a73525226fc1e6
16:24 oleonard Wow, a 2.x bug reopened?
16:25 * oleonard resists the urge to say "Then don't do that"
16:26 nengard heh
16:35 nengard my reports question got swalled up by Jenkins updates (i think)
16:35 nengard I am trying to write a report that looks for biblio records with one or more items at homebranch A but then prints the item information for all of the items attached to the biblio record no matter what the homebranch is.
16:58 oleonard Unless you use your RM powers to decide, jcamins, Bug 9456 may require a vote.
16:58 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9456 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Needs Signoff , Add callnumber column to the cart
17:07 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #1068: STILL UNSTABLE in 1 hr 6 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/1068/
17:07 jenkins_koha * Tomas Cohen Arazi: Bug 9267 - Ubuntu 12.04 install docs broken
17:07 jenkins_koha * David Cook: Bug 9586 - Remove $ENV{DEBUG} info from Member Template
17:07 jenkins_koha * Owen Leonard: Bug 9698 - Replace YUI buttons on patron card creator manage toolbar with Bootstrap
17:07 jenkins_koha * Owen Leonard: Bug 9696 - Remove YUI styling from buttons on patron card creator edit pages
17:07 jenkins_koha * Owen Leonard: Bug 9694 - Remove YUI styling from buttons on the patron card creator manage pages
17:07 jenkins_koha * Owen Leonard: Bug 9693 - Remove YUI styling from buttons on the patron card creator's image manage page
17:07 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9267 normal, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Pushed to Master , Ubuntu 12.04 install docs broken
17:07 jenkins_koha * Owen Leonard: Bug 9689 - Replace YUI buttons on the OAI sets administration page with Bootstrap
17:07 jenkins_koha * Owen Leonard: Bug 9688 - Replace YUI button on Authority MARC framework toolbar with Bootstrap
17:07 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9586 minor, P5 - low, ---, dcook, Pushed to Master , Remove $ENV{DEBUG} info from Member Template
17:07 jenkins_koha * Owen Leonard: Bug 9676 - Replace YUI buttons on authorities editor page with Bootstrap
17:07 jenkins_koha * Owen Leonard: Bug 9672 - Replace YUI buttons on MARC editor page with Bootstrap
17:07 jenkins_koha * Owen Leonard: Bug 9649 - Replace YUI buttons on cataloging home page with Bootstrap
17:07 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9698 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Replace YUI buttons on patron card creator manage toolbar with Bootstrap
17:07 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9696 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Remove YUI styling from buttons on patron card creator edit pages
17:07 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9694 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Remove YUI styling from buttons on the patron card creator manage pages
17:08 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9693 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Remove YUI styling from buttons on the patron card creator's image manage page
17:08 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9689 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Replace YUI buttons on the OAI sets administration page with Bootstrap
17:08 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9688 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Replace YUI button on Authority MARC framework toolbar with Bootstrap
17:08 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9676 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Replace YUI buttons on authorities editor page with Bootstrap
17:08 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9672 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Replace YUI buttons on MARC editor page with Bootstrap
17:08 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9649 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Replace YUI buttons on cataloging home page with Bootstrap
17:09 jenkins_koha Starting build #1069 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #1066 4 days 22 hr ago)
17:09 slef commit messages?
17:09 wahanui Please follow the guidelines at http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Commit_messages when writing commit messages.
17:10 jcamins oleonard: if you don't object to Kyle's patch, I'm fine with that one.
17:10 jcamins Once it's been tested and so forth.
17:11 jcamins However, Kyle keeps on reposting your patch.
17:12 oleonard jcamins: My solution rejects the idea that you can sort the whole cart by call number, so it doesn't fulfill Kyle's needs
17:13 oleonard jcamins: Since we already accept this style of sort on the Lists page I shouldn't be so hung up on it
17:14 slef Changes submitted for bug 7494
17:14 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7494 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, mjr, In Discussion , Use partial barcode or callnumber as a fallback for the barcode search in checkout
17:15 oleonard slef: Switch it to needs signoff?
17:16 oleonard Oh no you signed off
17:16 oleonard Switch it to signed off?
17:16 slef oleonard: I wrote. I don't know if it needs further discussion.
17:16 jcamins No need for further discussion.
17:17 jcamins Well, unless there is, in which case it is the responsibility of the person with an objection to inform you.
17:17 slef I'll put it as Needs Signoff then
17:17 slef done
17:26 drojf hi #koha
17:26 kf hi drojf
17:26 kf slides?
17:26 wahanui kf should be writing slides
17:27 drojf lol
17:27 drojf so go go go, slidyslideslides
17:28 kf going home :P
17:29 drojf lousy kf, not respecting my authority but reading the log later
18:16 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #1069: STILL UNSTABLE in 1 hr 7 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/1069/
18:16 jenkins_koha * Owen Leonard: Bug 9450 [Revised] Use DataTables in cataloging Z39.50 search results
18:16 jenkins_koha * Owen Leonard: Bug 9446 [Revised] Use DataTables on Z39.50 servers administration page
18:16 jenkins_koha * Owen Leonard: Bug 9444 [Revised] Use DataTables in system preferences editor
18:16 jenkins_koha * Owen Leonard: Bug 9437 [Revised] Use DataTables on itemtypes administration page
18:16 jenkins_koha * Owen Leonard: Bug 9430 [Revised] Use DataTables on library transfer limits page
18:16 jenkins_koha * Owen Leonard: Bug 9429 [Revised] Use DataTables on Authorized Values page
18:16 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9450 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Use DataTables in cataloging Z39.50 search results
18:16 jenkins_koha * Owen Leonard: Bug 9428 [Revised] Use DataTables in Authority MARC frameworks page
18:16 jenkins_koha * Owen Leonard: Bug 9435 [Revised] Use DataTables on libraries and groups administration page
18:16 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9446 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Use DataTables on Z39.50 servers administration page
18:16 jenkins_koha * Chris Cormack: Bug 7387 : Adding a caching plugin for Template::Toolkit
18:16 jenkins_koha * Bernardo Gonzalez Kriegel: Follow-up Bug 7387 - Add Template::Toolkit plugin to allow caching of includes
18:16 jenkins_koha * Kyle M Hall: Bug 5079 - Make display of shelving location and call number in XSLT results controlled by sysprefs
18:16 jenkins_koha * Jared Camins-Esakov: Bug 5079: Increment version number
18:16 jenkins_koha * Chris Cormack: Bug 8917 : Creating tables and system pref, no functional changes at all
18:16 jenkins_koha * Chris Cormack: Bug 8917 : Adding link tracking to the opac detail page, without xslt
18:16 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9444 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Use DataTables in system preferences editor
18:16 jenkins_koha * Chris Cormack: Bug 8917 : Script to log link clicks
18:16 jenkins_koha * Chris Cormack: Bug 8917 : Link tracking, changes to XSLT
18:16 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9437 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Use DataTables on itemtypes administration page
18:16 jenkins_koha * Chris Cormack: Bug 8917 : Fixing a bug bgkriegel spotted and removing tabs
18:16 jenkins_koha * Chris Cormack: Bug 8917 : Shifting db dependent code to a module
18:16 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9430 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Use DataTables on library transfer limits page
18:16 jenkins_koha * Chris Cormack: Bug 8917 : Follow up fixing bad behaviour that existed prior to this feature
18:16 jenkins_koha * Bernardo Gonzalez Kriegel: Bug 8917 : [ Sign followup ] Track clicks to links external to Koha
18:16 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9429 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Use DataTables on Authorized Values page
18:16 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9428 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Use DataTables in Authority MARC frameworks page
18:16 jenkins_koha * Jonathan Druart: Bug 8917: replaces tab with spaces
18:16 jenkins_koha * Jared Camins-Esakov: Bug 8917: Increment version number
18:16 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9435 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Use DataTables on libraries and groups administration page
18:16 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7387 enhancement, P1 - high, ---, chris, Pushed to Master , Add Template::Toolkit plugin to allow caching of includes
18:16 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5079 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, elliott, Pushed to Master , Make display of shelving location and call number in XSLT results controlled by sysprefs
18:16 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8917 new feature, P5 - low, ---, chris, Pushed to Master , Track clicks to links external to Koha
18:20 cait i love the blues and greens of huginn messagesin my chat client :)
18:20 libsysguy jcamins http://blogs.perl.org/users/davewood/2013/03/using-dbixclassdeploymenthandler.html
18:57 rambutan I miss the color chaos of mIRC in my xchat
18:58 * jcamins gives up.
18:59 jcamins [off] I always feel like I want to help, but he does not make it easy.
19:01 oleonard I don't even understand that message.
19:03 jcamins [off] I understand "... I'm not paying any attention and just complaining it's broken while denying that your categorical instruction to reindex has anything to do with me."
19:13 libsysguy documentation?
19:13 wahanui well, documentation is at http://koha-community.org/documentation/
19:18 magnuse any objections to calling the "marseille week" a global bug squashing week?
19:18 magnuse that's what i thought... ;-)
19:18 jcamins Go for it.
19:18 drojf o/
19:18 drojf kidding
19:19 oleonard magnuse: Has paul_p suggested any plan for that week to those attending?
19:19 jcamins Test, sign off on bugfixes, and QA both enhancements and bugfixes.
19:19 magnuse oleonard: yeah, there are some suggestions for things to work on, in a spreadsheet that only attendees have access to, perhaps?
19:19 jcamins Oh, and fix more bugs.
19:19 cait oleonard: basically reusing the spreadsheet from last year
19:19 cait different workshops
19:19 cait ergonomy
19:19 cait bug sqashing
19:20 cait search rewrite
19:20 wahanui it has been said that search rewrite is http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/C_&_P_Search_Rewrite_RFC
19:20 magnuse jcamins: that sounds like my plan for the week
19:20 jcamins Once oleonard as finished all the YUI button->Bootstrap button and tablesorter->datatables conversion, I will not be accepting any significant changes to the UI.
19:20 jcamins *has
19:21 jcamins I have already said this.
19:21 jcamins I hope there's an acknowledgement of that fact?
19:22 magnuse i have not been able to follow patches pushed as closely as i should - if anyone can suggest areas of koha that will see a lot of changes in 3.12 and that could do with some extra testing (and maybe some t:w:m tests), i'm all ears :-)
19:24 oleonard magnuse: Maybe you could convince someone to work on Bug 8278?
19:24 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8278 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, NEW , Replace YUI autocomplete in UNIMARC 210c plugin
19:25 magnuse maybe... :-)
19:28 cait twm?
19:28 magnuse test::www::mechanize
19:28 magnuse or selenium, if that is your preferred poison
19:36 magnuse http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/2013-03-18_Global_bug_squashing_week
19:36 * magnuse will try and polish that some more
19:36 * magnuse wanders off
19:37 drojf last try to build package. meh
19:37 magnuse (and anyone else is more than welcome to contribute, of course!)
19:37 drojf in case there will ever come a package out of this for bug 9256, can others reuse it to test?
19:37 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9256 critical, P5 - low, ---, magnus, Needs Signoff , Search is broken for 3.10 package-installs when marcflavour != marc21
19:38 jenkins_koha Starting build #29 for job Koha_Docs_3.8.x (previous build: SUCCESS)
19:38 jenkins_koha Starting build #33 for job Koha_Docs_3.10.x (previous build: SUCCESS)
19:39 jenkins_koha Project Koha_Docs_3.10.x build #33: SUCCESS in 1 min 42 sec: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Docs_3.10.x/33/
19:39 jenkins_koha Nicole C. Engard: update AutoResumeSuspendedHolds pref
19:39 jenkins_koha Project Koha_Docs_3.8.x build #29: SUCCESS in 1 min 42 sec: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Docs_3.8.x/29/
19:39 jenkins_koha Nicole C. Engard: update AutoResumeSuspendedHolds pref
19:39 jenkins_koha Starting build #303 for job Koha_Docs (previous build: SUCCESS)
19:39 jenkins_koha Project Koha_Docs build #303: SUCCESS in 17 sec: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Docs/303/
19:39 jenkins_koha Nicole C. Engard: update AutoResumeSuspendedHolds pref
19:45 jcamins fI wonder if it would make sense to have a "koha_toolbar" filter that would do the enclosing block for the toolbar we use on the intranet.
19:45 jcamins s/fI/I/
19:46 jcamins Not that I'm proposing to write the patch.
19:46 jcamins Just musing.
19:49 cait ?
19:50 drojf d'oh
19:55 libsysguy I feel like working on koha is like cooking at the fire station
19:55 libsysguy first one to complain is the next one to cook
19:55 jcamins lol
19:55 jcamins I'm not complaining.
19:55 libsysguy first one to complain on koha, next one to patch
19:55 jcamins I'm musing.
19:56 jcamins eli_anthony++
19:57 wizzyrea @quote add libsysguy: I feel like working on koha is like cooking at the fire station. First one to complain is the next one to cook.
19:57 huginn wizzyrea: Error: You must be registered to use this command. If you are already registered, you must either identify (using the identify command) or add a hostmask matching your current hostmask (using the "hostmask add" command).
19:57 libsysguy aww
19:57 wizzyrea @quote add libsysguy: I feel like working on koha is like cooking at the fire station. First one to complain is the next one to cook.
19:57 huginn wizzyrea: The operation succeeded. Quote #235 added.
19:57 wahanui i already had it that way, wizzyrea.
19:58 libsysguy @quote 235
19:58 huginn libsysguy: I'll give you the answer as soon as RDA is ready
19:58 wizzyrea @quote get 235
19:58 huginn wizzyrea: Quote #235: "libsysguy: I feel like working on koha is like cooking at the fire station. First one to complain is the next one to cook." (added by wizzyrea at 07:55 PM, March 07, 2013)
19:58 libsysguy ah
19:58 wizzyrea :)
19:58 * wizzyrea won't have the privilege of adding your quotes soon.
19:58 libsysguy oh?
19:58 libsysguy whats changing?
19:58 libsysguy are you losing your OP status?
19:58 wizzyrea you're leaving? lol
19:59 libsysguy oh my quotes
19:59 libsysguy hehe
19:59 wizzyrea unless you're going to hang out with us >.>
19:59 wizzyrea which would be cool :)
19:59 libsysguy well I might drop by and pester you and jcamins
19:59 libsysguy fine fine magnuse too
19:59 oleonard That's right, we'll have to purge all your quotes when you leave, like a viking funeral.
19:59 libsysguy what about my title
19:59 libsysguy about the sexy Swedes?
20:00 wizzyrea be libsysguy
20:00 wizzyrea oo
20:00 wizzyrea libsysguy?
20:00 wahanui libsysguy is probably dealing with infinity when dealing with spansets
20:00 wizzyrea !
20:00 libsysguy what have you done wahanui
20:00 wizzyrea nooooooo
20:00 libsysguy edveal was so upset he left
20:00 libsysguy poor guy
20:01 wizzyrea lol viking funeral.
20:02 libsysguy oleonard are you guys still doing DRBR stuff?
20:02 libsysguy FRBR**
20:02 jcamins libsysguy: I think you had it right the first time.
20:02 libsysguy hehe
20:02 oleonard Us guys? What FRBR stuff?
20:02 jcamins The pronunciation is right, too.
20:03 jcamins Except you should roll the 'r' a bit.
20:03 libsysguy didn't acpl do some frbr relations for their catalog at one point
20:03 jcamins The first one.
20:03 wahanui i guess the first one is the easiest, but you can't do anything very interesting with it
20:03 jcamins So it's more like Derrrrbr.
20:04 libsysguy my cat is retarded…its sitting here licking the screen
20:05 oleonard libsysguy's desktop wallpaper: http://www.delish.com/cm/delish/images/O3/fresh-fish.jpg
20:05 jcamins libsysguy: does it have your attention?
20:05 libsysguy by screen, I meant like screen to the outside windows
20:05 libsysguy not laptopscreen
20:06 libsysguy I'm not sure the window screen is as tasty as the wallpaper
20:06 jcamins oH.
20:06 jcamins *Oh
20:06 libsysguy oHoHoHOhOhOh?
20:07 wizzyrea he's mineral deficient :P
20:07 libsysguy I think I've lost my mind
20:08 * jcamins agrees.
20:10 wizzyrea we really ought to get that paul guy in channel.
20:10 jcamins [off] Just so long as I am forewarned.
20:11 wizzyrea [off] and I mean so that we can teach him to do things properly.
20:12 wizzyrea [off] since no amount of mailing list talking ever seems to work.
20:12 drojf [off] i thought his point was to prove that this is not what he wants :P
20:12 jcamins [off] I know what you mean. And in principle it's a good idea. In practice I don't want to be involved. Every time I respond to him, I regret it because he just takes my instructions and does the opposite.
20:12 jcamins [off] And then e-mails me privately to inform me that my instructions "didn't work."
20:13 jcamins [off] Though at least he's foregone the follow-up e-mail telling me I'm wrong this time.
20:13 drojf [off] you seem to show a lack of koyauni
20:14 * wizzyrea is not familiar with that term
20:15 jcamins [off] This reminds me, we restarted my server so I'm not sure my /ignores were kept. I have re-added them.
20:15 drojf lol
20:19 rangi wow my template caching actually made it to master!!
20:20 wizzyrea \o/
20:20 wizzyrea isn't it ungodly early for you?
20:20 rangi yup
20:20 rangi but no point getting on perth time
20:20 rangi since i leave tomorrow
20:21 wizzyrea *nod*
20:21 rangi jcamins: run the db update on jenkins
20:21 jcamins Thanks.
20:21 rangi so now only the single quotes test should be failing
20:22 rangi !jenkins build koha_master now
20:22 jenkins_koha rangi: job koha_master build scheduled now
20:23 jcamins Ohh, that's in xt/ so it isn't automatically run by my test script.
20:23 jenkins_koha Starting build #1070 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #1066 5 days 1 hr ago)
20:23 jcamins I have it listing all the tests in xt/ since I just copied your test plan off jenkins. :)
20:23 rangi ahh right :)
20:26 drojf oh look, when i use the _right_ machine to build a package, it works. and it only took me 2 hours to figure it out :/
20:26 jcamins Hehe.
20:26 jcamins Which machine were you trying to build a package on?
20:27 drojf i tried to do it on my regular dev vm. because someone#s brain forgot that i did that package building vm last time because… there is not enough space on the other
20:27 jcamins I hate it when I do that.
20:27 drojf but there were other erros first so i did not realize
20:27 drojf errors
20:27 jcamins What were the other errors?
20:28 drojf some test went berzerk from test xml files that i had lying aroung in folders where they should not have been
20:28 drojf s/aroung/around
20:28 jcamins Ah.
20:28 jcamins Yeah, it does that.
20:28 drojf i know now :)
20:29 drojf ok, anyway i have that package it seems and try to find some time to finally test bug 9256 tomorrow
20:29 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9256 critical, P5 - low, ---, magnus, Needs Signoff , Search is broken for 3.10 package-installs when marcflavour != marc21
20:29 jcamins Yay!
20:29 drojf i will not test that unimarc thing that is mentioned in the last comment
20:29 drojf but i could provide my package to somebody else if that is ok
20:30 * jcamins has no objection.
20:30 drojf yay
20:49 drojf g'night #koha
21:12 oleonard g'night #koha
21:13 * cait is baking lemon cake
21:16 magnuse wow, that is one late night lemon cake :-)
21:20 eythian hi
21:23 magnuse kia ora eythian
21:24 eythian hei magnuse
21:24 magnuse :-)
21:24 eythian magnuse: do you know anything about bug 8507?
21:24 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8507 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , koha-create should be updated to use DOM indexing for bib
21:24 magnuse nope
21:25 eythian wondering if it would be an easy thing to slip in with the other package related things you've been thinking about.
21:25 magnuse just that it sounds like it might be good idea, if dom is becoming the recommended mode for koha
21:25 jcamins Yes, definitely.
21:25 eythian I'm not sure what's involved in switching to DOM, and don't have a lot of time right now to look into it.
21:25 magnuse hm, i could say exactly the same thing... ;-)
21:25 eythian ah right :)
21:25 * jcamins just doesn't care.
21:26 jcamins It would definitely be a good idea, but that's basically the extent of my feelings on the matter.
21:26 magnuse hehe
21:26 eythian what difference does it make? I thought it worked better with weirdo languages like you an cait use :)
21:26 jcamins I'll use DOM for my customers when I upgrade to 3.10+, of course.
21:26 magnuse as far as i know, it's just a question of pointing koha-conf.xml to the dom config file instead of the old one
21:26 eythian ah right
21:26 magnuse but i might be missing things
21:27 jcamins magnuse: nah, that's pretty much it.
21:27 eythian if it's that easy, then that's good
21:27 magnuse jcamins: your customers arn't on the packages?
21:27 jcamins The benefit is that it allows us to use more complicated indexes.
21:27 jcamins magnuse: they are.
21:28 eythian ah right
21:28 magnuse sounds like you are ready to change the mode of the packages then ;-)
21:28 jcamins Not really.
21:28 jcamins For my customers I can simply change the configuration files to match my desired configuration.
21:28 jcamins Easy peasy.
21:29 jcamins For a patch to Koha, there probably need to be options.
21:29 cait eythian: nothing to do with weirdo languages in that case
21:29 jcamins Not so easy.
21:29 eythian If it's just a matter of tweaking the config file and making an option for it in koha-create, maybe I'll do it if I manage to beat openerp into submission today.
21:29 cait eythian: I think you mean icu?
21:29 eythian cait: that was what I was thinking of, yeah
21:29 cait openerp?
21:29 jcamins ICU is also a good idea.
21:29 wahanui okay, jcamins.
21:29 jcamins icu?
21:29 wahanui icu is a good idea.
21:29 jcamins icu?
21:29 wahanui i think icu is a good idea.
21:29 jcamins icu?
21:29 wahanui it has been said that icu is needed, if you want to search non-Roman characters with Zebra
21:29 eythian cait: don't ask
21:29 cait oh ok
21:29 jcamins eythian: I rather like OpenERP.
21:29 cait dom? dom? dom?
21:29 jcamins But I don't use it for much.
21:29 * cait will ask for that instead
21:30 eythian jcamins: it has a terrible bug that's affecting us and I've been tasked with tracking it down
21:30 eythian it doesn't help that I don't know python, and the code is wierd.
21:30 cait my coworker (who you know) said today, i won't get dom once he moves the servers, when there is no option in the packages
21:30 cait and I have no idea how to do it myself .. so
21:30 magnuse btw, eythian if you could take a look at the patch for bug 9256 and see if it makes sense and does what you suggested, that would be extremely great
21:30 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9256 critical, P5 - low, ---, magnus, Needs Signoff , Search is broken for 3.10 package-installs when marcflavour != marc21
21:31 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #1070: STILL UNSTABLE in 1 hr 8 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/1070/
21:31 eythian magnuse: ah yeah, been wanting to have a look at that too.
21:31 magnuse my brain is fried these days, so i don't trust myself at all...
21:32 * cait sends everyone cookies
21:32 jcamins magnuse: what's that about? Do you have a kid or something? :P
21:32 eythian http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Switching_to_dom_indexing <-- seems to be a few tweaks needed, but not terrible.
21:33 magnuse jcamins: yeah, something like that - and a 2-weeks-and-counting cold
21:33 eythian magnuse: that's going around here too
21:33 magnuse see, you can do it eythian - it will be fun! ;-) nudge nudge
21:33 eythian I blame Germany
21:33 eythian germs
21:33 eythian wahanui: germs
21:33 wahanui germs is http://i.imgur.com/5UfhT.jpg
21:33 eythian wahanui: germs
21:33 wahanui i heard germs was http://i.imgur.com/5UfhT.jpg
21:33 eythian wahanui: germs
21:33 wahanui Germs originated in Germany, before rapidly spreading throughout the rest of the world.
21:34 magnuse ah yes, what good have the germans ever done for us? ;-)
21:39 datadoctor http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Physicists
21:40 * jcamins heads home.
21:40 eythian later jcamins
21:45 * magnuse falls asleep
21:48 eythian http://youtu.be/j4Z3SYf6_Q8
21:51 wizzyrea between that and the earl grey hot montage that surely exists somewhere
21:51 wizzyrea that's about everything that makes picard, picard.
21:53 wizzyrea http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R2IJdfxWtPM
21:53 wizzyrea thanks, internet.
21:59 eythian wahanui: captain kirk is climbing a mountain
21:59 wahanui Why is he climbing a mountain?
22:00 wizzyrea oh just wait til you learn why, wahanui.
22:00 wahanui wizzyrea: what?
22:01 eythian wahanui: Why is he climbing a mountain?
22:01 wahanui eythian: wish i knew
22:02 dcook Captain Kirk?
22:06 eythian wahanui: it's worse than that is <reply>it's physics, Jim!
22:06 wahanui OK, eythian.
22:06 eythian wahanui: it's worse than that is also<reply>he's dead, Jim!
22:06 wahanui ...but it's worse than that is <reply>it's physics, Jim!...
22:06 eythian wahanui: it's worse than that is also <reply>he's dead, Jim!
22:06 wahanui okay, eythian.
22:07 wizzyrea lulz
22:08 wizzyrea it's worse than that!
22:08 wahanui it's physics, Jim!
22:08 wizzyrea awesome.
22:08 wahanui That'll be $1 for the awesome jar, wizzyrea
22:08 * wizzyrea donates gladly.
22:55 eythian https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/578163_10200249111383990_1070201919_n.jpg <-- cait
23:01 cait german lolcats?
23:01 eythian looks like
23:04 cait this apartment smells like brownies, lemon cake and cherry cake
23:04 cait *sigh*
23:04 jcamins Nice!
23:04 * cait wonders if that will lead to sleep walking
23:05 jcamins [off] My late father-in-law apparently was a somno...eater.
23:05 jcamins Somnophage.
23:07 eythian it'd take so much of the hassle out of that whole needing to eat during the day thing :)
23:11 dcook but less of the enjoyment :/
23:11 dcook Unless the taste was translated into dreams...
23:12 rambutan http://www.amigos.org/node/1584 <- interesting
23:12 wizzyrea mmm this dream of clouds reminds me of meringue
23:16 dcook Only 2 more hours until lunch..
23:16 cait wizzyrea: :)
23:16 wizzyrea ?
23:16 cait wizzyrea: so I didn't test your patch yet - bit of a lot of things to do right now
23:16 cait meringue :)
23:16 wizzyrea oh :)
23:17 cait and s/so/sorry
23:17 wizzyrea oh no worries
23:17 cait good night all :)
23:17 bag logs?
23:17 wahanui i heard logs was http://irc.koha-community.org/irclog/koha/
23:17 cait I will try out the sleep eating theory
23:19 dcook night, cait
23:39 dcook I wonder why we have ethnicity and ethnotes in the borrowers table...
23:39 dcook That is, I wonder why we have them at all...
23:39 wizzyrea bnecause some places track them
23:40 wizzyrea they do that a lot here.
23:40 dcook Hmm
23:40 wizzyrea it's important for collecting demographic statistics
23:40 dcook Yeah...
23:40 dcook I figure that's why, although I'm still...hmmm
23:41 dcook That's politics though, so I'll bite my tongue on that one
23:41 wizzyrea yep.
23:41 dcook On a related note, I'm thinking that "contact note" should be a part of the "Contact" fieldset and not the Alternate Contact fieldset...
23:42 dcook I mean, "Alternate Address" fieldset
23:42 dcook Seems out of place O_o
23:42 wizzyrea nope, the note is about the alternate contact
23:42 wizzyrea not about the main contact.
23:42 dcook Weird naming convention then :/
23:43 dcook In that case, it probably makes more sense to be in Alternate Contact than Alternate Address
23:43 * dcook just noticed the N/A for gender. Yay!
23:44 wizzyrea ok sorry, the note is for the alternate address - like, "this is mom's address"
23:44 wizzyrea (the kid lives with his dad normally, the alternate is his mom's, for example)
23:44 dcook Mmm
23:45 dcook Whatever works. Thanks for the clarification, wizzyrea :)
23:45 * dcook zaps it from the page anyway with BorrowerUnwantedField
23:45 wizzyrea since you can hide and show .. yes this
23:47 dcook hide and show, append, prepend. You can't say Koha isn't customizable
23:47 dcook I sound like an ad...
23:48 dcook I wonder sometimes if some of my old library school folks think I'm a Koha zealot. I just think they should try it out and give development a whirl since I'm sure they'd like it/benefit from it
23:49 wizzyrea I am certain that people think I'm some sort of zealot.
23:49 wizzyrea I nearly cried the otherday in our public library here because it was so hard to find anything and I thought "if they just used koha I wouldn't have this problem"
23:49 wizzyrea i gave up on the catalogue and just went to read the shelf
23:49 dcook I had that exact same experience last year in the Sydney public library
23:50 dcook Yep, exactly
23:50 dcook It was awful
23:50 * dcook keeps pondering who the right person is to talk to in the city public library system to agitate for change...
23:51 * wizzyrea too
23:51 wizzyrea but no one here probably would want to take advice from an upstart, irritatingly optimistic, american :P
23:51 dcook lol
23:51 dcook I was just thinking that
23:52 dcook I think I went through some serious public library culture shock when I moved down here
23:52 * dcook yearns for the days of the Vancouver Publiic Library and the Regina Public Library
23:54 dcook I suppose their catalogues could've been better as well...but that's sort of the state of the OPAC these days
23:54 dcook The collections though...*sigh*
23:54 dcook Actually, the public library in my new neighbourhood is beautiful.
23:54 wizzyrea mine too.
23:54 dcook Although after a few minutes though, you know what I heard?
23:55 dcook Library staff complaining about their library management software :p
23:55 wizzyrea heh
23:55 dcook Should've asked them for their director's contact details...
23:56 dcook Are you in Wellington proper or are you out in one of the...fingers?
23:57 dcook I haven't been yet, but I recently met up with a former instructor who was just there for a conference and she said that there was a core part and then it stretches off into valleys?
23:57 wizzyrea yea, I work in the CBD, but I live in a suburb
23:58 wizzyrea and yea, lots of hills, lots of valleys
23:58 dcook Sounds pretty :)
23:58 dcook One of these days, I'll have to hop a plane on over
23:58 wizzyrea it's beautiful :)