Time  Nick         Message
23:57 jcamins      Is there a chart showing month-by-month status changes?
23:54 jcamins      You're welcome.
23:53 talljoy      thanks jcamins.  I can answer with a modicum of authority now on this question.  i appreciate the confirmation.
23:53 talljoy      hah
23:52 * bag        whatevs - goes to refill my soda
23:52 jcamins      Yeah, I was definitely going for a metaphor.
23:52 bag          I typed that at escaping :P
23:52 talljoy      :-P
23:52 talljoy      i think that's a metaphor, not a pun
23:51 bag          oh that's bad!!!!  good pun
23:51 jcamins      ... kind of like one can do at a library with all those wonderful books!
23:51 jcamins      he was an expert at escaping.
23:51 talljoy      i'm just reminiscing
23:51 jcamins      No, it makes sense...
23:51 talljoy      LOL
23:51 bag          is it intermission yet - I need to refill my soda :P
23:51 talljoy      i had a thing for Houdini as a young girl.  weird, eh?
23:50 talljoy      sadly, i do remember my first experience on a card catalog.  I looked up biographies on Houdini.
23:50 dcook        hehe
23:49 jcamins      lol
23:49 jcamins      But if I were the target audience for catalogs, we wouldn't bother with non-MARC views...
23:49 talljoy      and then i promptly moved to subject catalog to look up religious conversion
23:49 talljoy      the sky parted, the sun shone down, i even think angels sang
23:49 jcamins      It makes sense to me too.
23:48 talljoy      i remember my first interaction with a card catalog.
23:48 talljoy      sigh...i was born a librarian
23:48 talljoy      makes perfect sense to me.
23:47 jcamins      But nowadays, no one has a clue wtf they're supposed to understand from "New York--Queens County--Forest Hills."
23:47 jcamins      662 is one of those things that made sense back when everything was on cards sorted by subject.
23:46 jcamins      In my opinion.
23:46 talljoy      651 is better than 662
23:46 jcamins      Yes it will.
23:46 talljoy      i guess my main concern in responding is if they use a 700 in a bib for added authors, will that 700 link to an auth record just like the 100 tag.  And it sounds like yes.
23:45 jcamins      I favor 651 + see-froms.
23:45 jcamins      I do not use them, personally.
23:45 jcamins      I'm looking to see if we have an authority type for 662.
23:45 jcamins      Exactly.
23:45 talljoy      mad library schemes and all
23:45 talljoy      ha!
23:45 jcamins      Or it can be linked to personal names, or even something more disturbing.
23:44 jcamins      690 _can_ be linked to topical headings (150/650).
23:44 jcamins      I don't think we have an authority type for 662 by default.
23:44 talljoy      690 local subject would link to 650 in the linker
23:44 jcamins      Hm.
23:43 talljoy      so 662 appears linked to geographic name so...662->151
23:43 jcamins      i.e. thanks to LC's nutty policies, there is no automatic authority generation by design.
23:42 jcamins      440 will link only to existing series authorities.
23:42 talljoy      lol
23:42 * bag        grabs popcorn while reading - this is like awesome librarian movie!
23:42 jcamins      650 is linked by default.
23:42 jcamins      If those were linked.
23:41 talljoy      what about other authority controlled fields in a bib record.  Like the 440 or 662 or 690?
23:41 talljoy      but the intended purpose would also match 648 -> 148  65->150 651->151, 655->155
23:40 talljoy      right.  makes sense.
23:40 jcamins      And by "broke" I mean "cut."
23:40 talljoy      fair enough.
23:40 jcamins      Also, if they broke the authority control link because they didn't know about BiblioAddsAuthorities (this was popular for a while), linking will seem to "not work."
23:40 talljoy      weird is outside my scope.  i'm happy knowing what the 'normal' behavior is.
23:39 jcamins      However, if the library wants to do something weird, there is nothing preventing them doing that.
23:39 talljoy      okay.  i'm okay with default.  what would make it a no?
23:39 jcamins      By default, yes.
23:38 jcamins      Yes and no.
23:38 talljoy      same with x10, x11, x30
23:38 talljoy      i'm thinking that the  bib tags 100, 600, 700, 800 match the 100 in an auth record
23:37 talljoy      i've been asked a pointed question about authority matching.  What I'm trying to locate in documentation somewhere is an outline of *what* matches from bibs to auth.  i.e. 100 in bib to 100 in auth
23:37 jcamins      That was only 15 minutes ago.
23:37 jcamins      Oh, heh.
23:36 talljoy      ask and ye shall receive, eh?  :-)
23:36 jcamins      talljoy: what can I do for you?
23:36 huginn       jcamins: The operation succeeded.
23:36 jcamins      @later tell slef if ~~ was introduced in 5.10.0, I will happily push it to master.
23:33 dcook        I updated a framework as a spreadsheet the other day (before rangi reassured me that using the web UI would be much better) and yeah...near coma :p
23:33 dcook        O_O
23:30 gmcharlt     no, that's what you get if you have to proofread all of the MARC frameworks by hand ;)
23:29 bag          heh
23:29 dcook        I had to double-check that I spelled it right as I was writing ;)
23:28 bag          HA
23:28 bag          read that as coma !
23:28 dcook        Yay! Trailing comma already fixed in master :D
23:21 talljoy      c'est la vie
23:21 huginn       talljoy: jcamins was last seen in #koha 1 hour, 49 minutes, and 40 seconds ago: * jcamins heads home.
23:21 talljoy      @seen jcamins
23:21 talljoy      jcamins ping
23:21 talljoy      jcamin  ping
23:21 bag          applied and cronned a reindex for late night :)
23:20 bag          hey gmcharlt thanks for those updates on 9511  (just checked one site with that problem and sure enough they don't have that code)
23:18 dcook        hehe
23:18 gmcharlt     dcook: clearly a fan of the abbreviation for 'id est'
23:17 dcook        I'd love to know where the +1 came from :p
23:17 huginn       cait: Karma for "IE" has been increased 1 time and decreased 66 times for a total karma of -65.
23:17 cait         @karma IE
23:17 cait         ie--
23:16 dcook        Well, the layout busts :p
23:16 dcook        One trailing comma and the opac detail page busts for IE7. *eyeroll*
23:16 dcook        IE--
23:02 dcook        hi rangi and cait :)
23:02 cait         hi dcook
23:01 rangi        hi dcook
23:00 dcook        hola #koha
22:48 Dyrcona      Neither was my high school.
22:48 rangi        wanganui high school was certainly not a place of enlightenment i found :)
22:48 * Dyrcona    follows Mark Twain's motto: Never let your schooling interfere with your education.
22:47 ibeardslee   maybe
22:47 rangi        interesting .. .maybe lucked out on some good teachers/good school ?
22:47 ibeardslee   rangi: dunno, it seemed that at LCA in ballarat I knew more about the Eureka stockade than some of the other aussies about.
22:47 rangi        when i was at high school, they were still calling it 'the maori wars' .. umm hello they were fighting other people
22:47 eythian      but mostly recent history (past 100 years ish)
22:46 eythian      my history classes were a mix of local and international
22:46 rangi        ibeardslee: sweet, your's must have been the first generation
22:45 wizzyrea     i'll grant you it's a pretty jaded and cynical view.
22:45 ibeardslee   rangi: actually a lot of the aboriginal interaction/massacres were covered
22:45 cait         not sure that is true here
22:45 cait         hm
22:45 ibeardslee   ncea history is different, I'm talking about things like Burkes and Wills expeditions in primary school
22:44 wizzyrea     yea, formal education is usually more about creating the mythology of a country in the mind of the populace, and less about actually knowing the facts.
22:44 rangi        ibeardslee: i bet they skipped all the 'and we slaughtered whole families of people here' bit :-)
22:44 rangi        i learnt about the war of the roses and the jacobite rebellion
22:44 cjh          unless you do ncea history there is very little covered. A lot of the things we did cover had an international flavour.
22:43 Dyrcona      ibeardslee: The same is true in the U.S. It's more propaganda than anything approaching the truth.
22:43 ibeardslee   at school in oz, I remember doing all sorts of things about people exploring the country
22:43 rangi        ibeardslee: very little in fact
22:43 * Dyrcona    wants to be a New Zealander.
22:43 ibeardslee   one of the things that I've found interesting in terms of education in NZ is that we don't cover a lot of our history
22:42 cjh          Dyrcona: i'm in the same boat, except im a New Zealander so I *should* really know such things.
22:42 cjh          3rd try lucky.
22:42 ibeardslee   though
22:42 ibeardslee   thought
22:42 ibeardslee   piss poor excuse thouth
22:42 Dyrcona      I knew about New Zealand being a nuclear-free zone, but didn't know about how it came about.
22:41 cjh          I like that excuse.
22:41 rangi        you're too young
22:41 cjh          sadly I had never heard of him :(
22:41 cjh          I downloaded it for later :p
22:40 Dyrcona      Yes, I'm listening to the audio of his 1985 debate, now.
22:40 rangi        Dyrcona: he certainly was one of our cooler prime ministers
22:38 rangi        :)
22:38 bgkriegel    with your help :)
22:37 rangi        bgkriegel++
22:35 Dyrcona      David_Lange++
22:13 ibeardslee   actually s/for\ the\ background//
22:12 ibeardslee   This is the best resource I've found for the background on that speech .. http://publicaddress.net/great-new-zealand-argument/nuclear-weapons-are-morally-indefensible/
22:11 cjh          that is awesome.
22:07 rangi        oh yeah good call ibeardslee
22:07 ibeardslee   of course today is the day for .. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hnhnggUCWcc
22:06 drojf        someone should make a song of that »Angry Scottish People Saying Real Words Maybe« that i saw linked at the last clip
22:05 rangi        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ThU9BOWcmjM  <-- crank that to really annoy the neighbours
22:04 bag          I'm rocking
22:04 wizzyrea     they must love you
22:04 bag          my neighbors just threw soda at my wall :P
22:04 wizzyrea     (not the doors - the gotye one)
22:03 wizzyrea     ftr, that is the only context that I would ever, ever, ever listen to those two songs in.
22:01 wizzyrea     bag - you asked for it.
22:01 wizzyrea     https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ure6I6mRyDc
22:01 rangi        good point, i think it works quite well together ;)
22:01 ibeardslee   why the 'vs' it's not like they are fighting, it's like they are working together
22:01 bag          kidding kidding
22:01 bag          call me maybe
22:00 wizzyrea     https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dnhKPw2NXIw
21:59 rangi        someone elses turn next
21:59 rangi        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MZBuYbKgvQI
21:51 rangi        heh
21:51 cait         do you want something qa'd?
21:51 cait         oh hi :)
21:50 rangi        hi cait
21:50 eythian      good morning cait
21:49 rangi        its mashup friday
21:49 rangi        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v6OEPE2DRYY
21:49 eythian      And tip my hand so‽
21:49 bag          ha eythian did you kick that spy!  looks like it
21:43 eythian      ohh, we have a spy in the catalyst network!
21:41 * cjh        doesnt yet trust smart match
21:39 eythian      though tends to be smart.
21:39 eythian      I think just that it can sometimes have unexpected results.
21:38 eythian      I think ~~ would work fine in this case, looking at the table. But I'm a little wary of using it where it's not really necessary.
21:38 rangi        i cant remember what schwern said about smart matching, but it made sense at the time :) eythian might remember
21:37 rangi        id prefer constants and/or eq
21:37 rangi        smart match does some slightly odd things
21:37 eythian      them to constants rather
21:37 slef         tips welcome
21:37 eythian      You could assign constants to them
21:37 slef         bbl
21:37 eythian      yeah
21:37 slef         but I don't like magic numbers because I forget which means what
21:36 slef         QA suggested using magic numbers like -1 instead of a string
21:36 eythian      well, also if it may be a string, == will give wrong results
21:36 slef         so == causes a warn causes a Failed QA
21:36 slef         basically the operator was == but now one parameter may be string or numeric
21:35 slef         not sure that's a problem
21:35 eythian      it'll stringify them
21:35 slef         tested and it does
21:35 slef         not sure whether to just use eq but I don't remember if 1 eq 1
21:35 wahanui      OK, eythian.
21:35 eythian      wahanui: kitten is http://robotfindskitten.org/play/robotfindskitten/
21:33 slef         http://perl5maven.com/smart-matching-in-perl-5.10 confirms that
21:32 slef         man perl5100delta makes me think it's new in 5.10
21:32 * jcamins    heads home.
21:32 jcamins      I'm not sure... if you have Debian Squeeze, that'll be 5.10 which is the earliest version Koha supports.
21:31 slef         hrm, where to find manuals for old versions of perl?
21:30 * slef       looks it up
21:30 slef         jcamins: good question.
21:29 jcamins      Unless it requires a high version of Perl.
21:29 jcamins      slef: I have no objection to it, so if it results in better code, go for it.
21:29 wizzyrea     I shouldn't be surprised.
21:28 wizzyrea     ah interesting you can't add a list as the db user.
21:28 slef         so, using ~~ instead of ==, good/bad/evil?
21:27 wizzyrea     hehehehehe
21:27 wahanui      slef: sorry...
21:27 slef         wahanui: pervert
21:27 wahanui      I like *your* figure
21:27 slef         wahanui: figures
21:27 wahanui      i don't know, slef
21:27 slef         wahanui: why did you say that?
21:27 wahanui      slef?
21:27 slef         wahanui?
21:26 wahanui      http://xkcd.com/1172/
21:26 huginn       slef: Quote #123: "rangi: #thingsihavelearnt if there is a mad scheme a library somewhere will be doing it ... except madder" (added by wizzyrea at 09:20 PM, March 30, 2011)
21:26 slef         @quote get 123
21:25 wizzyrea     it's not monday - where is everybody?!
21:25 wizzyrea     my nose is cold.
21:24 tweetbot`    [off] twitter: @ranginui: "Bug Statistics for February 2013 #kohails http://t.co/JfPBkCYLDa"
21:24 tweetbot`    [off] twitter: @kohails: "#kohails  Bug Statistics for February 2013 http://t.co/1IFRNoEvA4"
21:24 eythian      hi
21:03 wahanui      cjh: no idea
21:03 cjh          wahanui: ^^ arent you going to step in?
21:03 wizzyrea     more awesome.
21:03 wizzyrea     but you know what awesome jar contributions get you?
21:02 cjh          drats.
21:02 wahanui      That'll be $1 for the awesome jar, cjh
21:02 cjh          awesome!
21:02 wizzyrea     that's a fantastic vid
21:02 wizzyrea     or if all of those buildings weren't in the way
21:02 wizzyrea     if we were a little closer to the harbor we would have been able to see them
21:01 wizzyrea     \o/ yay dolphins!
21:01 rangi        http://vimeo.com/60724919
21:01 jcamins      lol
21:01 jcamins      That's why that's what I'll probably do.
21:01 wizzyrea     hopefully they'd make it into a pan first.
21:01 jcamins      Exactly.
21:01 wizzyrea     that looks not too complex - even I could manage making roots into pieces and tossing them into the oven.
21:00 jcamins      Once I get home I'll be feeling too lazy to do anything complex.
21:00 wizzyrea     veges*
21:00 wizzyrea     i mean, basically that's "melting" the avocado to make a creamier dressing for the veggies
21:00 jcamins      That's probably what I'll do.
21:00 jcamins      Hmm.
20:59 wizzyrea     http://www.gaylesbakery.com/about-us/recipe-box/roasted-root-vegetables/
20:59 jcamins      Beets, carrots, rutabaga, sweet potato, regular potato, more sweet potato, even more sweet potato, another rutabaga...
20:59 wizzyrea     hm.
20:59 jcamins      Root vegetables.
20:59 wizzyrea     besides avocado
20:59 jcamins      And, for that matter, if we had had lettuce for a regular salad we'd be another 33% closer.
20:59 wizzyrea     what do you have
20:58 jcamins      If we had bacon, we'd be 33% closer to a BLAT.
20:58 bag          bacon!
20:58 jcamins      I have avocado salad dressing for my radish salad.
20:58 wizzyrea     happens to be what I had for breakfast today :P
20:58 wizzyrea     or... make a corn fritter and put it on top of bacon with a little salsa
20:58 bag          yeah mashed on toast is awesome
20:57 wizzyrea     mmm also a good one
20:57 trea         mash it on toast, with salt and pepper. mmm
20:57 wizzyrea     I would probably dice it and put it on a salad.
20:57 wizzyrea     well if I had one avocado
20:57 jcamins      This is our last avocado.
20:56 jcamins      Nice!
20:56 bag          jcamins: we have an avocado tree in our yard - and have about 50 too many to eat right now
20:56 bag          deep fry it!!!  kidding..  wedge it with some lime on it and salt and pepper
20:55 jcamins      The only problem is that I only have an avocado and bread of the ingredients.
20:55 jcamins      Heh. That was my wife's suggestion too.
20:55 cjh          make a BLAT.
20:54 jcamins      wizzyrea: what should I do with one avocado?
20:30 drojf        i would trade "a little over zero" ;)
20:29 bgkriegel    :)
20:29 drojf        two
20:29 drojf        bgkriegel: i could use "a little hot" for a day or tow
20:28 huginn       libsysguy: The current temperature in Kingwood Glen, Atascocita, Texas is 14.6°C (2:15 PM CST on February 28, 2013). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 10%. Dew Point: -17.0°C. Pressure: 30.20 in 1023 hPa (Falling).
20:28 libsysguy    @weather 77346
20:28 huginn       libsysguy: Error: HTTP Error 500: Server Error
20:28 libsysguy    @cnn 77346
20:27 libsysguy    cnn 77346
20:27 huginn       libsysguy: The current temperature in Kingwood Glen, Atascocita, Texas is 14.6°C (2:15 PM CST on February 28, 2013). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 10%. Dew Point: -17.0°C. Pressure: 30.20 in 1023 hPa (Falling).
20:27 libsysguy    @wunder 77346
20:26 bgkriegel    a little hot
20:26 huginn       bgkriegel: The current temperature in Cordoba, Argentina is 29.0°C (5:00 PM ART on February 28, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 40%. Dew Point: 14.0°C. Pressure: 29.80 in 1009 hPa (Falling).
20:26 bgkriegel    @wunder cordoba, argentina
20:17 jcamins      Yep. Pretty nice out.
20:17 huginn       jcamins: The current temperature in Glendale, Glendale, New York is 9.1°C (3:14 PM EST on February 28, 2013). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 51%. Dew Point: -1.0°C. Windchill: 7.0°C. Pressure: 29.55 in 1000 hPa (Steady).
20:17 jcamins      @wunder 11375
20:16 huginn       drojf: The current temperature in Prenzlauer Berg, Berlin, Germany is 3.0°C (9:13 PM CET on February 28, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 70%. Dew Point: -2.0°C. Windchill: 0.0°C. Pressure: 30.18 in 1022 hPa (Steady).
20:16 drojf        @wunder berlin, germany
20:15 drojf        third sign of madness is forgetting about the third sign of madness
20:15 huginn       rangi: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 18.0°C (9:00 AM NZDT on March 01, 2013). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 77%. Dew Point: 14.0°C. Pressure: 29.86 in 1011 hPa (Rising).
20:14 rangi        @wunder nzwn
20:14 wahanui      it has been said that first sign of madness is looking for hairs on the palms of my hands
20:14 jcamins      first sign of madness?
20:14 jcamins      fourth sign of madness?
20:14 rambutan     hey, that's recursive madness
20:13 huginn       wahanui: (quote get [<channel>] <id>) -- Gets the quote with id <id> from the quote database for <channel>. <channel> is only necessary if the message isn't sent in the channel itself.
20:13 wahanui      @quote get 123 is the third sign of madness
20:13 jcamins      third sign of madness?
20:13 wahanui      second sign of madness is hairs on the palms of my hands
20:13 wizzyrea     second sign of madness
20:13 wahanui      i think second sign of madness is hairs on the palms of my hands
20:13 jcamins      second sign of madness?
20:13 wahanui      i heard madness was manyfold - ask me for the second sign of madness.
20:13 wizzyrea     madness.
20:13 wizzyrea     i heard that
20:13 rambutan     wizzyrea: they say more snow on Monday
20:13 jcamins      drojf: 5 years from now.
20:13 * wizzyrea   waves
20:12 drojf        5 years from now or alltogether?
20:12 rambutan     I really want to go for my PhD @ UMKC, but can't get anybody to go with me.
20:11 rambutan     ic
20:11 jcamins      5 years?
20:11 jcamins      rambutan: yeah, but I have...
20:11 rambutan     jcamins: surely you'll want to do it before it "times out"?
20:11 drojf        hi rangi
20:10 drojf        s/enc/end
20:10 rangi        back
20:10 drojf        [off] i would procrastinate it forever but they will enc magister artium completely in favour of bachelor/master so it's either now or never. and it is required to continue working the university koha job too
20:09 jcamins      [off] Ah, theses. I haven't written one for my second Master's yet. I probably should. But it's not really a priority.
20:09 bag          :)
20:08 drojf        good evening bag
20:08 drojf        [off] jcamins: depends on how nicely the "write your thesis" thing will work out :D at the moment its is the "do all the stuff that is missing to write your thesis" part, and that is rather painful. looking forward to doing just one thing at university and some koha
20:06 bag          afternoon all :)
20:04 jcamins      drojf: as long as you do it!
20:04 drojf        i wonder if i should put my name in the wiki as bug wrangler for 3.14. given how little time i am able to put into my bug wrangler position for 3.12 at the moment i almost feel like i should do it again next round without that title
19:10 magnuse      but anyone is free to organize one at any time :-)
19:10 magnuse      slef: guess there will be one during the hackfest in marseille...
19:09 wahanui      i haven't a clue, slef
19:09 slef         wahanui: when is it?
19:09 wahanui      GBSD is Global Bug Squashing Day
19:09 slef         wahanui: GBSD?
19:09 slef         someone suggested using -1 instead of "all" but I dislike numbers that have hidden meanings
19:08 slef         how do we feel about using ~~ instead of == when one argument may be numeric or string?
19:06 magnuse      slef++ for being on a roll
18:58 huginn       slef: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5173 enhancement, PATCH-Sent (DO NOT USE), ---, robin, Failed QA , Allow the discount to be editable
18:58 huginn       slef: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8740 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, mjr, Failed QA , Serials Claims should be exportable all at once
18:58 huginn       slef: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8854 major, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Failed QA , invoice filters don't all work
18:58 huginn       slef: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7018 critical, P5 - low, ---, fridolyn.somers, Signed Off , need all acq permissions to search
18:58 huginn       slef: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8819 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , enter claim date manually
18:58 slef         @query all vendors
18:36 tweetbot`    [off] twitter: @27point7: "Est ce que les notes de version de koha 3.10.1, 3.10.2 et 3.10.3 sont traduites en français? #kohails #I18N"
18:04 tweetbot`    [off] twitter: @kohails: "#kohails  New McNaughton order http://t.co/hTmHAlldxb"
17:15 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9293 major, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Signed Off , action_logs not tracking payments
17:15 slef         Changes submitted for bug 9293
17:09 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9322 major, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Needs Signoff , If multiple transfers exist (from circ/branchtransfers.pl), completing one completes them all
17:09 slef         Changes submitted for bug 9322
17:08 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9411 major, P5 - low, ---, hugh, Needs Signoff , Multiple uses of javascript eval on ajax responses in acq.js
17:08 slef         Bug 9411 has no test plan. khall++ for asking for one.
17:07 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9575 major, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Needs Signoff , Serious Holds Problem with IndependantBranches
17:07 slef         Bug 9575 test plan is a bit involved :-/
17:06 slef         ok, I added 2 Needs Signoffs and cleared 2 = I'm not making the signoff queue worse
17:05 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7018 critical, P5 - low, ---, fridolyn.somers, Signed Off , need all acq permissions to search
17:05 slef         Changes submitted for bug 7018
16:58 slef         jcamins++
16:58 wahanui      OK, slef.
16:58 slef         wahanui: catalogue is to view the catalogue or the mainpage
16:57 wahanui      slef: I forgot catalogue
16:57 slef         wahanui: forget catalogue
16:57 wahanui      i think catalogue is only to view the catalogue
16:57 slef         catalogue
16:57 jcamins      I think catalogue
16:57 * slef       UTSLs
16:57 slef         what permission is needed to access mainpage?
16:51 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9326 blocker, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Patch doesn't apply , New database update system suggests running duplicate updates
16:51 slef         Changes submitted for bug 9326
16:48 jcamins      slef: http://id.loc.gov/authorities/names/no97040643.html though I have noticed it in almost every authority record I have looked at.
16:47 slef         which authority is that in?
16:46 jcamins      Who exactly is supposed to have time to go back through millions of authority records to review and/or update them?
16:45 jcamins      I love the notes in all the current name authorities saying "This heading can't be used in RDA until the record has been reviewed and/or updated."
16:24 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9296 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, mjr, Needs Signoff , overduerules table needs restructuring to allow future extension
16:24 slef         Changes submitted for bug 9296
16:16 tcohen       yeap, looks like map
16:15 slef         I'd expect it to return true if the code block returns true for any element in the array.
16:15 slef         yeah, map with an if
16:15 jcamins      Looks like map?
16:15 tcohen       hm List::Moreutils
16:14 tcohen       any { $_ eq $lang } @languages
16:14 jcamins      I'm not familiar with it.
16:14 tcohen       its some perl function
16:13 tcohen       heh
16:13 slef         tcohen: is that what the computer runs when I press the any key?
16:13 tcohen       does anyone have a pointer to the 'any' command semantics?
16:12 reiveune     bye
16:10 wahanui      ...but wahanui is a bot|a repository of important and useful and accurate information or at least partially slow.|a little bit creepy.|right sometimes...
16:10 slef         wahanui: you are excused
16:10 wahanui      slef: excuse me?
16:10 slef         wahanui: you suck
16:10 wahanui      ...but that is in march?...
16:10 slef         wahanui: no, that is in February
16:10 wahanui      ...but that is in march?...
16:10 slef         wahanui: that is OK
16:10 wahanui      slef: sorry...
16:10 slef         wahanui: clearly
16:10 wahanui      slef: i'm not following you...
16:10 slef         wahanui: easier.
16:09 wahanui      slef: what?
16:09 slef         wahanui: yes, it is.
16:09 wahanui      Test-Driven Development is just easier.
16:09 slef         Test-Driven Development
16:09 slef         I probably should have written it first and put it in a patch first, so you could apply that on its own.
16:09 slef         I just added that.
16:09 jcamins      Ooh, I like the unit test!
16:04 jcamins      But if the issue here is the second, the problem is not overly prescriptive rules about commit messages.
16:04 jcamins      If you do not know what information is relevant, you should look in the wiki to check.
16:03 jcamins      If you know what information is relevant, you can format it whatever way you like.
16:03 jcamins      I care that you include the relevant information.
16:03 slef         I don't like QA fails.
16:02 jcamins      I don't give a damn whether you use the same punctuation.
16:02 jcamins      THEN DON'T LOOK IN THE WIKI.
16:02 slef         as now when I'm travelling, I either have to tether and hope there's signal, or I go work on something more disconnected-friendly.
16:02 slef         I don't care as long as it's natural enough I'm not having to look up the flaming wiki every time I write one ;-)
16:01 jcamins      But your complaint would suggest _more_ stringent requirements for commit messages, not less.
16:00 jcamins      But any test plan is better than the none-at-all that most people provided prior to the new rules.
16:00 jcamins      Many test plans aren't good enough.
16:00 jcamins      Agreed.
15:59 slef         Well, the commit messages actually cause me two problems testing. Firstly, some seem to specify preconditions with no way to meet them without more work. Secondly, I'm unconvinced some test plans are sufficient.
15:59 magnuse      jcamins++
15:58 jcamins      Based on that we can safely conclude that it is more important to reduce the amount of time required to test than it is to reduce the amount of time to write a patch.
15:58 jcamins      We are approaching 300 patches that are waiting on someone other than the original developer's attention.
15:57 jcamins      We tried shorter requirements for the commit messages.
15:56 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9735 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, NEW , Choose OPAC language in links to any page
15:56 tcohen       bug 9735
15:56 slef         I humbly suggest we should look for how to shorten that.  The two obvious-looking things to me are to shorten the long list of bugzilla components and simplify the commit message format.
15:54 slef         So, a one-line patch currently takes ten minutes :-/
15:54 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9734 normal, P2, ---, mjr, Needs Signoff , String::Random is marked as optional, but C4::Members requires it
15:54 slef         Changes submitted for bug 9734
15:51 tcohen       thanks jcamins
15:50 tcohen       no p
15:50 kf           thx :)
15:50 kf           hmpf
15:50 tcohen       they r there
15:50 kf           the module icons on the intranet start page
15:50 wahanui      icons are great if you use touchscreens, think of selfcheckouts e.g.
15:50 tcohen       kf: icons?
15:50 kf           bye gaetan_B
15:49 kf           if you could take a quick look that would be nice
15:49 gaetan_B     bye !
15:49 wahanui      Please follow the guidelines at http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Commit_messages when writing commit messages.
15:49 slef         commit messages?
15:49 kf           i wonder if it's missing the icons on the start page for you in non-english
15:49 jcamins      Probably a new bug that includes "Choose OPAC language in links to any page."
15:49 slef         git commit messages?
15:49 tcohen       yes
15:49 kf           tcohen: do you have master right now? and a translation installed?
15:49 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7514 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, frederic, RESOLVED FIXED, Choose OPAC language with URL parameter
15:49 tcohen       jcamins: on bug 7514 kf asked for a way to show "the OPAC" in a specific language, should I reopen or create a new one for "any OPAC page"? Looks like an enhancement
15:49 kf           oh no oleonard
15:47 slef         Switched to a new branch 'for_upstream/bug_9734'
15:46 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9734 normal, P2, ---, mjr, ASSIGNED , String::Random is marked as optional, but C4::Members requires it
15:46 slef         Bug 9734 has been added to the database
15:46 slef         so I was wrong, changing
15:45 wahanui      i heard installation was running a modified 3.6.x
15:45 jcamins      Installation.
15:45 slef         first challenge - is it internals or installation?
15:45 rambutan     http://www.buzzfeed.com/awesomer/the-best-places-to-be-if-you-love-books
15:44 * jcamins    is currently reading a handwritten Russian art book from 1929, and only slightly paying attention.
15:44 slef         I woudln't have @query if I had
15:44 jcamins      Oh, I thought you had.
15:44 slef         don't I have to create it in bugzilla?
15:44 jcamins      Ready... go!
15:43 jcamins      I think... about forty-five seconds.
15:43 slef         let's see how long a trivial patch takes
15:42 jcamins      Patches are welcome.
15:42 slef         jcamins: koha_perl_deps.pl says it is
15:42 jcamins      I didn't think it was marked optional, but if it is, it shouldn't be.
15:42 jcamins      slef: it's not optional.
15:41 huginn       slef: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9315 trivial, P5 - low, ---, bgkriegel, Pushed to Master , Bad version of String::Random reported by koha_perl_deps.pl
15:41 huginn       slef: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8840 normal, P5 - low, ---, mtompset, Needs Signoff , ubuntu-pkg-check.sh fix and extend functionality
15:41 slef         @query String::Random
15:41 slef         String::Random is marked as optional, but C4::Members requires it. How is that optional?
15:36 * khall      is more of a lurker
15:34 huginn       jcamins: I have not seen kyle_h.
15:34 jcamins      @seen kyle_h
15:34 jcamins      Huh.
15:34 huginn       jcamins: kyleh was last seen in #koha 33 weeks, 3 days, 2 hours, 21 minutes, and 25 seconds ago: * kyleh follows the debian.install guide in git to create the koha virtual appliances
15:34 jcamins      @seen kyleh
15:34 khall        also, wow, I don't say very much very often, do I?
15:33 khall        excellent!
15:33 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9296 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, mjr, Patch doesn't apply , overduerules table needs restructuring to allow future extension
15:33 slef         khall: just rebasing bug 9296, wondered if you were around.
15:33 khall        what's up?
15:33 slef         hi all
15:32 huginn       slef: khall was last seen in #koha 2 weeks, 5 days, 19 hours, 16 minutes, and 20 seconds ago: <khall> np!
15:32 slef         @seen khall
15:31 * kf         goes back to work
15:31 kf           and I am having a long day...
15:31 kf           oh ok
15:30 tcohen       yes kf, i was just having fun!
15:29 tcohen       the other, implementing what you actually asked for
15:29 tcohen       one fixing the expected behaviour (intead of 404, redirect to the opac URL if no refferal)
15:29 kf           tcohen: you know who is the cait one... right?
15:29 kf           but I agree with dong it - it will be nice to have it working
15:28 tcohen       i'll actually fill two different bugs
15:28 kf           um...
15:28 kf           I still think it will get messy if we reopen and is probably better done on a separate bug
15:28 tcohen       of course :-P (i actually thought it was that cait one)
15:28 kf           the library wanted to offer a link on the home page that woudl bring you to the start page of the opac - in english or german according to the link - the patch made that possible
15:27 kf           tcohen: this Katrin Fischer is me btw ;)
15:20 tcohen       i'll have to split my patch :-P
15:20 tcohen       ok
15:19 jcamins      And fixing it.
15:19 jcamins      Right, so, first thing is a new bug eliminating changelanguage.pl, and second thing is reopening that bug.
15:19 jcamins      Hm.
15:19 tcohen       not a specific page if i'm not wrong
15:19 tcohen       when someone (some Katrin Fischer) asked for the enh she said we should be able to bypass cookies and browser detection ON THE OPAC
15:18 tcohen       - the feature was not implemented (force a language by passing it as a parameter, it only works for the changelanguage.pl page! )
15:17 tcohen       - che changelanguage.pl vs opac-language.pl
15:17 jcamins      Everything should use opac-changelanguage.pl
15:17 tcohen       - the redirection bug
15:17 jcamins      Actually, the bug is that we have changelanguage.pl at all.
15:17 tcohen       its to issues actually
15:17 kf           so it could work better = enh on a separate bug
15:16 kf           tcohen: I think it's really better here - the other bug does wht it was supposed to do, but it only works for the start page
15:16 kf           heh
15:16 tcohen       so the benevolent dictator arised
15:16 jcamins      I didn't read the question yet, but a new bug is the way to go.
15:16 jcamins      *file a
15:16 kf           jcamins: :P
15:16 jcamins      Filea  new one.
15:16 kf           it will work better for the autogenerated release notes and to see the actual status
15:15 kf           because it's already been pushed
15:15 kf           i think jcamins would say : file a new one:)
15:15 tcohen       kf: could we re-open that bug or should I fill a new one?
15:03 kf           only have not time to search right now
15:02 kf           np
15:02 kf           if you look at yesterday the link shoudl be there
15:02 tcohen       didn't know it, thanks kf
15:02 kf           there :)
15:02 wahanui      irc logs are http://irc.koha-community.org/irclog/koha/
15:02 kf           irc logs?
15:02 kf           tcohen: hm look in the logs?
14:43 tcohen       (a.k.a. "redirections")
14:43 tcohen       kf: which was the but related to changelanguage.pl?
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14:27 tcohen       jcamins, is there a bug for the changelanguage thing that arised yesterday?
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13:26 tcohen       late morning #koha
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13:01 kf           Joubu: hope rangi has time to take a look :)
11:57 Joubu        kf: wep but if you call the script with -o, nothing append. A little change could fix the issue
11:55 Joubu        magnuse: ho yes, looks cool
11:54 kf           Joubu: I just really want to get rid of those log files
11:54 kf           Joubu: I was looking at the fines bug - but I think I misunderstood and it's all ok
11:53 drojf        it is light (!) grey here. i would even describe my state as "awake" \o/
11:53 magnuse      Joubu: bip is pretty useful too :-)
11:52 huginn       drojf: The current temperature in Prenzlauer Berg, Berlin, Germany is 5.7°C (12:43 PM CET on February 28, 2013). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 66%. Dew Point: -0.0°C. Windchill: 3.0°C. Pressure: 30.33 in 1027 hPa (Falling).
11:52 drojf        @wunder berlin, germany
11:51 drojf        :)
11:51 Joubu        drojf: yep, I will try to install irssi on a server
11:49 drojf        Joubu: the trick is to never log out ;)
11:48 Joubu        pong kf, sorry I never think to come here every morning :-/
11:46 Joubu        hello #koha !
11:05 gaetan_B     hallo kf :) i'm here but in a meeting ;)
11:00 kf           gaetan_B: around?
10:28 kf           hm ping Joubu
10:02 tweetbot`    [off] twitter: @pierrevdk: "Working on the translation of the #Kohails Community February Newsletter in French. Stay tuned."
09:46 drojf        hei magnuse
09:46 magnuse      moin drojf
09:44 drojf        hi kf
09:42 kf           morning drojf
09:34 drojf        good morning #koha
09:33 kf           thx :)
09:30 tweetbot`    [off] twitter: @twistedwillow: "Today, working on session for @MHFAEngland training thing, and looking at our @kohails set up.fun fun. Just must try not to get distracted."
09:29 magnuse      wb kf
09:27 magnuse      :-)
09:25 christophe_c wahou magnuse ;-) cool
09:12 magnuse      i'll bring an extra bag of easter marzipan just for you, if you like :-)
09:11 christophe_c np magnuse ;-)
09:11 magnuse      ooh, thanks for doing the research christophe_c++
09:08 christophe_c and a bus n°99 from T1 to the train station
09:07 christophe_c you have a train 18h55=>21h32 or 19h04=>21h41 20h04=>22h49
09:05 christophe_c in fact, you have only the train option at this time for your arival  march 17th
09:05 magnuse      bonjour christophe_c!
09:04 christophe_c hello magnuse
09:00 christophe_c hi #koha
07:47 cait         bbl :)
07:32 magnuse      hah! ;-)
07:32 reiveune     salut magnuse
07:32 huginn       magnuse: The current temperature in Marseille, France is 1.0°C (8:00 AM CET on February 28, 2013). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 93%. Dew Point: 0.0°C. Windchill: -1.0°C. Pressure: 30.18 in 1022 hPa (Rising).
07:32 magnuse      @wunder marseille
07:32 huginn       magnuse: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 1.4°C (8:20 AM CET on February 28, 2013). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 91%. Dew Point: 0.0°C. Windchill: 1.0°C. Pressure: 30.21 in 1023 hPa (Steady).
07:32 magnuse      @wunder konstanz
07:32 huginn       magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 3.0°C (8:20 AM CET on February 28, 2013). Conditions: Rain Showers. Humidity: 93%. Dew Point: 2.0°C. Windchill: -2.0°C. Pressure: 29.39 in 995 hPa (Steady).
07:32 magnuse      @wunder boo
07:32 magnuse      bonjour reiveune
07:30 wahanui      privet, reiveune
07:30 reiveune     hello
07:28 * magnuse    waves at cait
07:27 * cait       waves at magnuse
07:21 * magnuse    hopes he is better now
07:20 huginn       magnuse: danielg was last seen in #koha 2 years, 15 weeks, 2 days, 12 hours, 47 minutes, and 19 seconds ago: <danielg> lucky you! i'm in day 11. longest cold i've ever had
07:20 magnuse      @seen danielg
07:20 magnuse      danielg++ for the newsletter
07:12 * magnuse    waves
06:58 cait         ah ok :)
06:58 rangi        yep, so did galen
06:57 cait         mirko answered to that
06:57 cait         I think
06:57 cait         he mailed the list yesterday with an error he had trying
06:56 rangi        check the devel list
06:55 cait         google docs for?
06:53 * rangi      makes a wiki page before we force everyone to have a google login
06:50 rangi        google docs
06:48 cait         hm?
06:47 rangi        gah
06:24 dcook        End of the day! Ta, tout le monde
06:17 bigbrovar    dcook: Hi
06:17 cait         hey dcook
06:17 dcook        and barriers and bigbrovar :D
06:17 dcook        hey cait :)
05:45 dcook        Hmm, only 18 minutes of work left, but hungry. Not worth it to open up the crackers and hummus. Or is it...
04:33 dcook        night, jcamins
04:32 tweetbot`    [off] twitter: @kohails: "#kohails  Koha Community Newsletter: February 2013 http://t.co/uksHWuiYqI"
04:32 eythian      later
04:31 * jcamins    goes to sleep, having conquered GPG.
04:11 jcamins      Got it!
04:11 jcamins      Ha!
04:10 dcook        jcamins: That sounds...menacing
04:10 dcook        Fun times :D
04:09 bag          HA - well I've got about 20 pages left in one and then I'll start another one or read a magazine :P
04:09 dcook        Actually, I totes read a book during lunch today. It was fantastic.
04:09 dcook        Time...read...book?
04:09 bag          ok time to go read a book!  the real fun begins!!!  w00t
04:08 dcook        O_o
04:06 druthb       Hi, bag.
04:06 jcamins      dcook: specifically. I just got my nightly alerts informing me that Facebook is taking a special interest in my servers.
04:05 bag          heya druthb
04:04 druthb       o/
04:04 dcook        Specifically or generally, jcamins?
04:04 dcook        later wizzyrea
04:04 wizzyrea     later
04:04 wizzyrea     I have to go get my kiddo
04:04 wizzyrea     anyway
04:04 jcamins      Facebook--
04:04 wizzyrea     i haven't chased it up - I thought it got in.
04:03 wizzyrea     "just" = recently
04:03 dcook        wizzyrea++
04:03 dcook        A little while ago, I wanted to use a advanced notice digest with <<items.content>>, but I think you said that it probably wouldn't work. I hadn't looked yet, as it wasn't quite a priority..
04:03 wizzyrea     and fix the date-due vs issuedate
04:03 * wizzyrea   just submitted a patch to fix the documentation of items.content in the cron job
04:02 wizzyrea     oh - yes, sorry I thought you were referring to the <<item>> tags
04:02 dcook        I was referring to items.content. Not the item tags.
04:02 dcook        I think we might be talking about different things
04:02 wizzyrea     not the digests though
04:02 wizzyrea     overdues can use either format
04:01 dcook        Doesn't overdues require that as well?
04:01 wizzyrea     in the cron.
04:01 wizzyrea     but items.content will take whatever fields you give it
04:00 dcook        :(
04:00 wizzyrea     having just spent some time in the predues, I find it very highly unlikely.
04:00 dcook        wizzyrea: According to the people commenting, they were able to use it for their digests...so must be for item dues or predues as well
03:59 jcamins      List options?
03:59 huginn       eythian: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 20.0°C (4:00 PM NZDT on February 28, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 64%. Dew Point: 13.0°C. Pressure: 29.92 in 1013 hPa (Falling).
03:59 eythian      @wunder nzwn
03:59 wizzyrea     yea, that only works in the overdues. it's really annoying.
03:58 jcamins      Hmmm...
03:58 dcook        http://bywatersolutions.com/2012/04/13/putting-item-information-into-notices/ <-- handy info!
03:58 dcook        Hmm, any way to list options? :p
03:57 huginn       dcook: ByWaterSolutions has neutral karma.
03:57 dcook        @karma ByWaterSolutions
03:55 eythian      no, just plan ASCII armored GPG
03:54 jcamins      I figured it was a special format.
03:54 eythian      yeah
03:54 jcamins      Okay, so it's just the keys that I should be importing.
03:53 eythian      or save it and run it over them, or whatever
03:53 eythian      yeah, so you should be able to paste them into gpg --import
03:53 jcamins      It has your message and a public key and a private key.
03:53 eythian      it should have text you can read in it
03:52 eythian      is the decrypted file valid?
03:52 jcamins      That's what I thought. It doesn't think the decrypted file is valid.
03:51 eythian      jcamins: gpg --import
03:51 jcamins      Ummm... how do I import it?
03:48 jcamins      Got 'em.
03:45 eythian      jcamins: OK, useful things in your email
03:40 eythian      gpg --fingerprint
03:40 jcamins      How would I find it?
03:39 eythian      It's a long string that can't be generated predictably, unlike the key id
03:39 jcamins      What's the fingerprint?
03:39 jcamins      Okay.
03:38 eythian      that's the key id
03:38 wahanui      i guess that is in march?
03:38 jcamins      eythian: oh, what is that?
03:38 eythian      jcamins: that's not the fingerprint :)
03:38 jcamins      eythian: EE155EAD
03:23 cjh          I dont think I have any pictures of him on my pc though :(
03:20 wizzyrea     neat
03:20 cjh          yeap
03:19 wizzyrea     you have a cockatiel?
03:19 cjh          my cockatiel finds his own reflection scary or attractive, depending on the time/mood.
03:18 ibeardslee   .. which in a sad way is quite funny
03:18 ibeardslee   my cat just hisses at her reflections in doors and windows
03:11 wizzyrea     which if you have never had the pleasure of, is quite funny
03:11 wizzyrea     that's like a kitten with a mirror.
03:09 * cjh        braces for cute
03:09 rangi        https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=8-1F-CokXNU#! here watch this instead have to have sound tho
03:06 wizzyrea     aw
03:06 rangi        or yeah dickheads in boats scared them off
03:05 rangi        i dunno how long ago that was, its quite likely they ahve all gone
03:05 ibeardslee   https://twitter.com/arwenamin/status/306962082367172608
03:05 * cjh        has legs
03:05 * wizzyrea   has sunscreen
03:05 cjh          koha team trip to the beach \o/
03:05 wizzyrea     :O dolphins in oriental bay!?
03:05 cjh          :o :o :o
03:04 rangi        https://twitter.com/WineSentience/status/306951078774181888/photo/1
02:26 wizzyrea     eythian's is my favorite.
02:26 cjh          :)
02:26 wahanui      do you like my aspirational, irritatingly American, optimism?
02:26 cjh          be wizzyrea
02:25 wizzyrea     hm.
02:25 wizzyrea     be kf
01:56 cjh          dcook: don't blink.
01:56 wahanui      every day is a koha hackfest here at Catalyst :D or a good day to talk about food
01:56 wizzyrea     but every day!
01:56 wizzyrea     he's only on during the american day
01:55 dcook        Whoa, I haven't seen oleonard here in ages.
01:50 wizzyrea     aw
01:50 wizzyrea     later
01:50 oleonard     Later
01:50 oleonard     If it works at least I'll have a copy on this laptop
01:49 * oleonard   will try tomorrow at work
01:48 oleonard     Yeah, tried that one :)
01:47 wizzyrea     http://stackoverflow.com/questions/6842687/the-remote-end-hung-up-unexpectedly-while-git-cloning/6849424#6849424
01:47 oleonard     Not enough memory seems possible I guess. I know the repo isn't that big.
01:46 wizzyrea     or "repo too large"
01:46 wizzyrea     well, everything else I see is like "not enough memory on the remote server"
01:44 wizzyrea     hm.
01:44 oleonard     Nope
01:44 * wizzyrea   wonders if oleonard got his repo working
01:44 huginn       eythian: The operation succeeded.
01:44 eythian      @later tell jcamins please tell me your GPG fingerprint
01:37 ibeardslee   there is a 4th being filmed
01:36 gmcharlt     two bots enter!  one bot leaves!  two bots enter! one bot leaves!
01:36 cjh          heh
01:35 ibeardslee   /kick /kick
01:35 * wizzyrea   only just
01:35 * cjh        wasnt alive when mad max came out.
01:34 wizzyrea     are you getting ready to rumble?
01:34 * gmcharlt   cracks his knuckles, then
01:33 wizzyrea     thunderdome
01:33 mtj          … the leather tights won
01:33 * wizzyrea   wonders what or who is in #thunderdom
01:33 cjh          gmcharlt: we had a vote while you were gone.
01:33 wizzyrea     lol :)
01:33 gmcharlt     ;)
01:33 * gmcharlt   checks this is still #koha, right not #thunderdome ?
01:33 cjh          wizzyrea++ # defeated
01:33 * wizzyrea   laughs evilly
01:33 cjh          wizzyrea: stop stealing my comments :(
01:32 wizzyrea     HA beat you :)
01:32 mtj          my crazy 2 cents… ive have horribly borked git repos, that *only* been able to fix, by cloning them
01:32 cjh          ie git+ssh://username@where.foo:/path/to/somewhere/repo.git
01:32 wizzyrea     or git+ssh://username@
01:32 rangi        yeah try ssh://
01:32 cjh          oops beaten to it.
01:32 oleonard     rangi, yeah
01:32 cjh          you need to specify ssh afaik
01:32 eythian      or git://username@example...
01:31 rangi        oleonard: ssh to the box works fine eh?
01:31 wizzyrea     ssh://username@example.com:/path/to/my/repo/.git maybe?
01:31 mtj          ok ok
01:31 oleonard     My problem is with a non-Koha repo, just to be clear
01:31 mtj          gmcharlt, not sure
01:30 gmcharlt     mtj: which repo?
01:30 oleonard     Well, you're the smartest guys I know so I figured I'd ask :)
01:30 mtj          ah, ok its a repo from kc.org..
01:30 rangi        right .. yeah i dunno what is up with that im afraid :(
01:30 oleonard     I've never had trouble cloning the Koha repo on this network (at home), so I didn't expect to have problems
01:30 mtj          um, yeah.. thats what i meant
01:29 mtj          heh, sorry
01:29 cjh          mtj: if you want the fsck tool for git, then git-fsck?
01:29 rangi        hmm that looks ok
01:29 oleonard     git clone username@example.com:/path/to/my/repo/.git
01:29 rangi        no its the garbage cleaner mtj
01:28 mtj          http://www.kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-gc.html
01:28 mtj          git-gc is the fsck tool for git, yeah?
01:28 rangi        i havent seen that error before it looks like some kinda network issue
01:28 wizzyrea     what's the command you're running?
01:28 rangi        hmm
01:27 oleonard     ssh
01:27 rangi        you cloning over http, or git protocol?
01:26 pastebot     "oleonard" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "git clone error" (5 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/409
01:26 rangi        whats the error it gives you?
01:26 wizzyrea     shoot :)
01:26 ow1n         Anyone up for a non-Koha-related git question? I'm trying to clone a git repo I have set up on a remote server and it fails every time
01:22 mtj          wow, bgkriegel++ indeed
01:20 eythian      ok
01:18 mtj          just in the middle of something now.. :/
01:17 mtj          ok, gotcha
01:17 eythian      not the whole key
01:17 eythian      mtj: I just need the fingerprint
01:17 mtj          eythian,  will email you later this arvo
01:15 eythian      ta
01:14 mtj          yep, will do
01:14 eythian      mtj: can you send me your GPG fingerprint?
01:13 mtj          eythian, yo
01:13 wizzyrea     bgkriegel++
01:13 eythian      jcamins: also you?
01:13 wizzyrea     ah yea bgkriegel
01:13 eythian      mtj: you about?
01:13 rangi        bgkriegel++ # the most sign offs in one month of any person ever
01:12 rangi        danielg++ # another great newsletter
01:07 bgkriegel    only at night
01:07 bgkriegel    I try to do as much as possible now, classes start next week and will not have much time
01:04 wizzyrea     yep
01:04 bgkriegel    but there are so many bugs waiting (sign and QA)
01:03 rangi        hehe
00:58 wizzyrea     hehe it'll do that
00:58 bgkriegel    but, i'm become addicted :)
00:58 bgkriegel    i'm working now
00:58 wizzyrea     hehe oh, even more impressive :)
00:57 bgkriegel    not now
00:57 wizzyrea     are you seriously on holiday?
00:57 wizzyrea     awesome :D
00:57 bgkriegel    :)
00:56 rangi        Bernardo Gonzalez Kriegel - 80  !!!
00:51 wizzyrea     http://www.moneyandshit.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/hipster_kangaroo.jpg
00:51 wizzyrea     hehehehe
00:51 wahanui      OK, eythian.
00:51 eythian      wahanui: kangaroos are the original hopsters