Time Nick Message 23:19 jcamins Thank you. :) 23:19 wizzyrea thanks :) 23:19 wizzyrea anyway ok I will fix that. 23:18 wizzyrea it would have already nuked out translated strings. 23:18 wizzyrea well true. 23:18 tweetbot` [off] twitter: @IrmaLibraries: "I like setting up reports in #kohails. 4 example "Shelf list" very useful > can show total collection value 4 insurance purposes & col. mgt" 23:18 jcamins (fix already-updated ones) 23:18 jcamins I don't see how to do that. 23:18 wizzyrea but if you're running from master you're in pain anyway so... 23:18 wizzyrea didn't know if I needed to make an update that would fix already updated db's 23:17 wizzyrea ok cool 23:17 jcamins And since it's the same database update, you can do it on that bug. 23:17 jcamins Yeah. 23:17 wizzyrea go back and patch the db update? 23:17 wizzyrea since it's a db update - what is the best way? 23:17 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9382 trivial, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Pushed to Stable , Bold necessary permissions for staff client access. 23:17 wizzyrea bug 9382 - i'm sensitive to the issue here, I'd like to fix it 23:16 jcamins Yes? 23:16 jcamins Mostly. 23:16 wizzyrea question fo ryou 23:16 jcamins I am. 23:15 wizzyrea jcamins about? 22:45 wizzyrea that could be really powerful. 22:44 wizzyrea interesting that the news items don't show in the ccsr mobile view. 22:44 eythian later cait 22:43 dcook night, cait1 22:43 cjh night :) 22:43 cait1 bye all 22:43 cait1 it' sok, I am going to sleep now anyway 22:43 cait1 yeah, but that's not what I meant. 22:43 jcamins cait1: if you aren't happy with the security implications, don't enable the feature. 22:43 eythian oh, good 22:42 jcamins eythian: actually, that'll be pretty painless. 22:42 cait1 jcamins: not sure what to make of your comment 22:42 eythian for example, avoiding sharing plugins between instances. 22:42 eythian I expect it'll need rejiggering to work with the packages, too 22:42 cait1 people will be happy about funcitonality, but might not be aware of possible problems 22:42 jcamins cait1: if it gets in, don't use it. 22:41 cait1 I am a bit worrid about security stuff... 22:41 jcamins Other than enabling plugins. 22:41 jcamins It also allows you to upload plugins, and use them without needing to do sysadmin-y stuff. 22:40 jcamins I simplified a bit. 22:40 dcook Why does the patch seem so massive then? 22:39 dcook Mmm 22:39 jcamins Right. Basically what 7804 does is allows you to add a link on the reports page and/or tools page. 22:38 * dcook just saw the "reports" and "tools" type of plugins on the bug entry 22:38 dcook Didn't mean to hit enter.. 22:38 dcook Ack 22:38 dcook jcamins: I'm not sure that I follow 22:38 cait1 we will se ehow it goes :) 22:38 wizzyrea just snap on your thing to cope with your 123, away you go 22:37 wizzyrea yea but plugins really help with 123 22:37 cait1 because of 123 22:37 cait1 and an ILS is a bit different from a cms... 22:37 jcamins dcook: it allows you to create a record, or a self-contained "tool." 22:36 dcook jcamins: oh? 22:36 wizzyrea to both making sense and it being a mixed blessing 22:36 jcamins dcook: the plugin system in 7804 is far more limited than that. 22:36 eythian especially if plugins aren't maintained 22:36 dcook Yeah, I was thinking that a bit too 22:35 wizzyrea yep 22:35 eythian It can become a mixed blessing 22:35 dcook Which makes sense 22:35 dcook Mhm. I've heard that as a strength of both systems 22:35 wizzyrea same with drupal. 22:35 wizzyrea but greatly 22:35 wizzyrea maybe not infinitely 22:35 wizzyrea it's infinitely extensible because of the plugins. 22:35 dcook I have, but not in that way 22:35 wizzyrea have you ever used wordpress 22:35 dcook Neato! 22:35 dcook I suppose the concept of plugins deter forks but still encourage individualisation? 22:35 wizzyrea behind the plugins 22:35 wizzyrea yes, that's the idea 22:34 gaetan_B hi there :) 22:34 dcook salut, gaetan_B 22:34 eythian I'm not sure 22:33 dcook I'm just wondering if the purpose of the Koha Plugin system is to encourage this sort of development? I find it intriguing 22:33 dcook Could be. It would probably be more user-friendly for staff 22:32 wizzyrea "proper" 22:32 wizzyrea giviing it a proper UI maybe? 22:31 dcook Admittedly, I'm not sure I understand the whole purpose of that plugin mentioned above though...it seems like it replicates what could already be done with the SQL reports... 22:31 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7804 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle.m.hall, Passed QA , Add Koha Plugin System 22:31 dcook I wonder if this is the sort of thing that khall had in mind with Bug 7804? 22:30 dcook Hehe 22:30 eythian a what? and why? there should be a law... 22:29 dcook Someone wrote a "plugin" to do an item-level search using PHP/jQuery 22:29 dcook I just saw this on the Koha-Fr listserv : http://www.mydk-tomic.net/?q=node/31 22:28 cait1 ? 22:28 cait1 Aaaaha 22:27 dcook Ahhhh! 22:00 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9431 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Signed Off , Use DataTables on Patron Category Administration page 22:00 cait1 bug 9431 22:00 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9555 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Signed Off , Template files contain single quote strings 22:00 cait1 bug 9555 21:11 cait1 hope not too long 21:09 eythian no, the last bits of it will take a while to clear I suspect. 21:08 cait1 hm not a perfect score 21:08 eythian cait1: about 80-90% well now. 21:07 cait1 eythian: hope you are feeling better 21:07 * eythian was sick all last week, so didn't see it until now. 21:07 drojf because i had a library install it 21:07 * drojf remembered 21:07 * jcamins catches up to himself. 21:07 eythian yeah 21:06 eythian > Sent 3 days, 8 hours, and 30 minutes ago: <jcamins> Is there a reason not to just remove the koha package, since fixing it would take more time than we have? 21:06 jcamins The koha package. 21:06 jcamins Right. 21:06 jcamins Oh! 21:06 eythian I'm going to build the latest packages this morning, as part of that I might drop the koha package out. 21:06 wahanui the question is "What is the meaning of life, the universe and everything?" 21:06 jcamins What's the question? 21:06 eythian jcamins: no real reason not to do that I suppose. I would like to fix it, but time doesn't really permit. I need a minion who can learn about packaging :) 21:04 eythian hi 20:35 * cait1 waves too 20:31 drojf hi wizzyrea 20:27 * wizzyrea waves 20:12 drojf (not going to work on that either, but that was a function that seemed natural for one of the libraries last night) 20:09 drojf ok, i don't see myself learning about that edifact stuff now :) an option to click "send email" when you have specified an address of the vendor would be a start too… 20:04 jcamins A bit, yes. 20:04 drojf it's kind of strange to have a webbased system not send order emails :P 20:03 drojf thanks, i'll have a look 20:03 drojf hi magnuse 20:03 * magnuse wishes #koha a good time of the day 20:02 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7736 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, mark.gavillet, Failed QA , Edifact QUOTE and ORDER functionality 20:02 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=2443 enhancement, P3, ---, mjr, NEW , Acquisitions by EDIFACT 20:02 magnuse bug 2443 and bug 7736 might be relevant? 20:01 drojf ok, then i wasn't just blind, that is good too :) 20:00 jcamins Only a print option at present, so far as I know. 20:00 drojf btw i still wonder about the question from last night: can i make koha acquisition send an email to my vendor 8and if so, where/how), or is there only the print option? 19:39 jenkins_koha Chris Cormack: Fixing a mistake in the updatedatabase stanza 19:39 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.10.x build #70: SUCCESS in 42 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.10.x/70/ 18:57 jenkins_koha Starting build #70 for job Koha_3.10.x (previous build: SUCCESS) 18:57 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #1061: FIXED in 1 hr 8 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/1061/ 18:57 jenkins_koha Yippie, build fixed! 18:56 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9431 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Signed Off , Use DataTables on Patron Category Administration page 18:56 cait1 bug 9431 18:53 cait1 hm? 18:45 drojf s/he waited 2.5 hours! :P 18:45 wahanui ah, that is just to say that everything should be on one line 18:45 drojf ah, that 18:44 drojf ? 18:42 jcamins There goes any chance of me responding to that question. 18:36 cait1 hi drojf:) 18:36 drojf hi cait 18:24 wahanui bonjour, cait1 18:24 cait1 hello 18:24 cait1 hellp 18:24 jcamins Hello. 18:02 cait1 s 18:02 * cait1 wave 17:49 jenkins_koha Starting build #1061 for job Koha_master (previous build: UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #1059 3 days 21 hr ago) 17:49 cait hi all 17:49 jenkins_koha rangi: job koha_master build scheduled now 17:49 rangi !jenkins build koha_master now 16:48 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8942 normal, P5 - low, ---, frederic, Pushed to Master , Translation process breaks javascript in calendar.inc 16:48 jenkins_koha * Chris Cormack: Bug 8942 : Adding a test to make sure we don't use single quotes for js 16:48 jenkins_koha * Jared Camins-Esakov: Bug 9587: Increment version number 16:48 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9587 new feature, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Pushed to Master , Allow login via mozilla persona - https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/persona/ 16:48 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8682 normal, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Pushed to Master , quick slip: renewals do not appear on quick slips 16:48 jenkins_koha * Chris Cormack: Bug 9587 : Handling mismatched emails better 16:48 jenkins_koha * Katrin Fischer: Bug 9587 : QA follow up - fix one tabulation character 16:48 jenkins_koha * Chris Cormack: Bug 9587 Follow up to fix the problem Katrin identified 16:48 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9356 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, katrin.fischer, Pushed to Master , Show Dissertation note (MARC21 502) in XSLT 16:48 jenkins_koha * Chris Cormack: Bug 9587 : Followup removing a commented out warn that was annoying the qa tools 16:48 jenkins_koha * Chris Cormack: Bug 9587 : Follow up, fixing tabs in C4/Auth.pm 16:48 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9363 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, katrin.fischer, Pushed to Master , Show Patent control information and report number (MARC21, XSLT, detail pages) 16:48 jenkins_koha * Chris Cormack: Bug 9587 : Mozilla Persona login 16:48 jenkins_koha * Liz Rea: Bug 8682 - Renewals do not appear on quick slips 16:47 jenkins_koha * Katrin Fischer: Bug 9356: Show Dissertation note (MARC21 502) in XSLT 16:47 jenkins_koha * Katrin Fischer: Bug 9356: Follow-up - fix capitalization in MARC21 XSLT detail pages 16:47 jenkins_koha * Katrin Fischer: Bug 9363: Show Patent control information and report number (MARC21, XSLT, detail pages) 16:47 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #1060: UNSTABLE in 1 hr 7 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/1060/ 16:18 drojf is there an actual awesome-counter? there definitely should be 16:12 wahanui That'll be $1 for the awesome jar, jcamins 16:12 jcamins Awesome! 16:11 drojf jcamins: it was good. lan did actually work, wifi didn't so they all had to use the stationary computers there instead of their notebooks. which lead to a much faster installation success, without all the different problems we had the last time. a smaller group this time and a lot more time to look at the system. i think at least two libraries are very likely to use koha in the future 15:40 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Merge branch 'bug_8942' into 3.12-master <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=9b8a5274732edd0bbcf3dd80b82c00b182a292da> / Bug 8942 : Adding a test to make sure we don't use single quotes for js <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=27a3d083315da37abe17207be2a895709eaff123> 15:40 jenkins_koha Starting build #1060 for job Koha_master (previous build: FIXED) 15:32 huginn jcamins: The operation succeeded. 15:32 jcamins @later tell cait Sorry, wrong bug (though 9555 needs QA too)... could you please QA bug *9431* first, when you're doing QA? 15:29 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Merge branch 'bug_9587' into 3.12-master <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=5f40f3f0e424646bbfd4fa8a9f472b06d8124606> / Bug 9587: Increment version number <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=7f08964c9d62efe7730636a9553b4afe444dbbf7> / Bug 9587 : Handling mismatched emails better <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=219ec8f8981489577762cb4 15:29 huginn jcamins: The operation succeeded. 15:29 jcamins @later tell cait When you get a chance, could you please QA bug 9555 first? 14:54 jcamins ure.tagfield < 900; 14:54 jcamins Run the following query in MySQL, then load the record editor: update marc_subfield_structure set hidden=0 where marc_subfield_struct 14:53 jcamins I just learned how to give Chrome a seizure! 14:53 jcamins Hello. 14:50 tcohen hi #koha 13:30 jcamins drojf: how did the workshop go? 10:05 cait and off... bbl 10:05 drojf hi cait 10:04 cait moin drojf 09:53 magnuse nah, i like it ;-) 09:50 cait mean weather :) 09:49 cait hey magnuse 09:49 magnuse w00t!!1! 09:49 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 5.0°C (10:20 AM CET on February 24, 2013). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 93%. Dew Point: 4.0°C. Windchill: 0.0°C. Pressure: 30.24 in 1024 hPa (Steady). 09:49 magnuse @wunder boo 08:17 huginn cait: The current temperature in Reutlingen, Germany is -3.7°C (9:14 AM CET on February 24, 2013). Conditions: Light Snow. Humidity: 54%. Dew Point: 0.0°C. Windchill: -4.0°C. Pressure: 29.89 in 1012 hPa (Rising). 08:17 cait @wunder reutlingen 04:00 wajasu i'm just glad i finally got them migrated to 3.10 from 3.0 03:59 wajasu its hard to change after all these years. i'll read the man pages. 03:58 wajasu oh 03:54 jcamins Read the man pages. I'm pretty sure they explain. 03:54 jcamins The packages take care of that. 03:54 jcamins wajasu: you should not be running process_messagequeue directly. 03:43 wajasu ran process_queue script, but failed to send. do i need to run as root, or koha-<instance> user, or maybe i'm missing a sendmail piece. well, tomorrow then. 03:42 wajasu build box, installed debian squeeze, koha-common, library instance, circ rules, back-dated a checked book to myself. setup postfix. generated overdues (saw in message_queue). 01:28 talljoy gmcharlt: you in? 00:55 drojf lousy channel not active at crazy weekend times :P