Time  Nick         Message
22:41 rangi        thank you
22:41 druthb       You'll have 'em this evening, sir! :)
22:40 rangi        druthb: just when you get a chance a couple of pull requests would be awesomesauce
22:37 druthb       :P
22:36 BobB         lucky!  :)
22:36 bag          I don't have any issues with you
22:35 druthb       Someone have issues for me?
22:34 dcook        Hehe. I like Frédéric's typo(?) about the OCLC 'covert art' service
22:34 druthb       If it wasn't white-out blizzard conditions, might have seen me earlier.  we had a power-out here for a while.
22:33 melia        ha! that would've been better!
22:33 wizzyrea     you didn't even have to say her name 3 times
22:33 melia        heh
22:33 * druthb     points at melia.
22:33 melia        ask and you shall receive :)
22:33 cait         magic?
22:33 rangi        yay !
22:31 rangi        i wonder if druthb is around today
22:28 dcook        morning, BobB :)
22:27 BobB         morning dcook
22:06 wahanui      hmmm... tcohen is 120
22:06 bgkriegel    tcohen?
21:43 tcohen       :-P
21:41 wizzyrea     oh i'll be around I was talking to magnuse :)
21:41 tcohen       bye wizzyrea !
21:36 wizzyrea     byee
21:35 magnuse      later!
21:33 wizzyrea     later!
21:33 oleonard     See y'all later
21:27 wizzyrea     O.O
21:27 oleonard     Just think, if things had gone differently we might all be complaining about getting rid of ExtJS
21:26 maximep      just 3 months ago we were doing thing so differently here at work
21:25 maximep      a few years in internet time seems like forever
21:24 wizzyrea     it sure looked nice a few years ago ;)
21:24 maximep      can't wait to never use yui again :P
21:23 maximep      oleonard++
21:23 wizzyrea     i agree with that sentiment
21:23 jcamins      yui--
21:23 wizzyrea     yes
21:23 oleonard     It's tempting to do lots to the OPAC with Bootstrap, but I think we need to focus narrowly right now on getting rid of YUI
21:22 oleonard     Even to move on to the OPAC and look at menus there
21:22 wizzyrea     where those would be hiding
21:22 wizzyrea     yea, I'm guessing tools might be an area
21:22 oleonard     I think I've covered almost all the instances of YUI buttons/menus in toolbars. it would be good to search for other usage of YUI menus
21:22 wizzyrea     hm oki
21:21 oleonard     The plugin is jquery.qtip.js. It's used somewhere in budgets admin I think
21:21 oleonard     wizzyrea: There is at least one page which uses a jquery plugin which I think we could replace with use of Bootstrap
21:19 wizzyrea     or is there an area you'd like us to look at?
21:18 wizzyrea     want to set him aside an area?
21:18 wizzyrea     oleonard: I have my student coming in monday to do bootstrap stuff
21:15 tcohen       bgkriegel++ for pointing those perlcritic errors
21:10 cait         they look similar too
21:06 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9687 minor, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, NEW , Subject Searching not working for records with parentheses
21:06 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9212 normal, P3, ---, kyle, Needs Signoff , Parentheses in subject headings break search
21:06 oleonard     Bug 9212... Bug 9687
21:02 oleonard     They're almost the same, so that's probably it
21:02 cait         but don't remember seeing something for patroncards
21:02 cait         I remember testing labels too
21:02 jcamins      oleonard: you did labels, I think.
21:01 * oleonard   thought he submitted a patch for the patron card creator toolbar... they're all running together in my mind...
20:32 jcamins      lol
20:31 oleonard     jcamins: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Method_of_exercising_a_cat
20:10 * cait       waves back
20:09 * wizzyrea   waves
20:06 jcamins      We'll buy one at a dollar store at some point.
20:06 jcamins      lol
20:06 cait         now you are buying him his own laserpointer?
20:05 cait         heh
20:05 jcamins      I contractor came to give us an estimate this morning. He had a laser pointer which Myshkin found _very_ stimulating.
20:05 jcamins      oleonard: that's why it's just _probably_ a state of cat.
20:02 oleonard     I thought one could not know the state of cat because observing it changed the outcome?
20:02 wahanui      Ah, morning. The cat must be wanting breakfast.
20:02 jcamins      Morning.
20:01 wahanui      Morning is probably a state of cat
20:01 rangi        Morning
19:56 jcamins      K1: excellent! I'm glad you found a solution!
19:55 K1           changed [port  ”8023/tcp”] for each  service listener setting in  SIPconfig.xml to [port “<machine ip address>8023/tcp”].
19:55 K1           hello again, Just wanted to let you know that I found a work around for IPV6 problem:
19:22 * cait       waves
19:12 rangi        heh
19:12 drojf        https://blogs.kde.org/2013/02/21/sony-pirates-kde-artwork
19:12 oleonard     So... Quiet...
17:33 * jcamins    heads into the city.
17:27 tcohen       u r correct!
17:26 jcamins      scalar @$arrayref
17:25 tcohen       holy c: $#$ ?
17:25 jcamins      I always forget...
17:23 tcohen       $#array_ref?
17:23 tcohen       jcamins: how do i get the cardinality of the referenced array then?
17:18 tcohen       references should always be declared as scalar, thnaks!
17:17 tcohen       understand
17:17 jcamins      tcohen: @$var means "the scalar variable in $var is actually a reference to an array, so give me the array it refers to"
17:16 tcohen       so @$ means "treat it like a array_ref?
17:16 huginn       tcohen: Error: No closing quotation
17:16 tcohen       @$ means "treat it like a array_ref?
17:16 jcamins      That's a dereference.
17:15 jcamins      Nope.
17:15 tcohen       that's a cast, right?
17:15 jcamins      and @$sql_parameters in the loop
17:15 jcamins      So it does need to be: my $sql_parameters...
17:14 jcamins      Ah!
17:14 tcohen       i put this on that method: return \@sql_parameters;
17:14 jcamins      But it looks like GetParametersFromSQL is returning an actual array.
17:14 pastebot     "tcohen" at 172.16.248.196 pasted "validateSQLparameters method" (17 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/396
17:13 jcamins      tcohen: my suggestion was based on the fact that most routines return arrayrefs rather than arrays.
17:13 tcohen       jcamins, you proposed treat it like a scalar on assignment and then cast it?
17:13 datadoctor   i like that!
17:12 jcamins      How about warn ref($sql_parameter)?
17:12 jcamins      Odd... that looks right to me.
17:10 pastebot     "tcohen" at 172.16.248.196 pasted "$VAR1 = [ { 'authval' => 'bran" (10 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/395
17:10 datadoctor   i'm just using Data::Dumper here and it is very helpful for understanding your data structure
17:09 tcohen       it is well formed, just checked it
17:09 jcamins      Could you paste the results of warn Data::Dumper::Dumper(\@sql_parameters);
17:07 tcohen       the last line is the problematic
17:07 tcohen       if ( defined $sql_parameter->{'authval'} ) {
17:07 tcohen       foreach my $sql_parameter (@sql_parameters) {
17:07 tcohen       my @sql_parameters = GetParametersFromSQL($sql);
17:07 jcamins      foreach my $myhash (@$myarray) { }
17:06 datadoctor   hash
17:06 datadoctor   do you have it spelled wrong? the has is not defined for your reference
17:05 tcohen       i keep getting "Not a HASH reference "
17:05 tcohen       an array of hashes, how do i recover the inside hashed with a loop?¡
17:04 tcohen       if a method return s
17:02 tweetbot`    [off] twitter: @27point7: "@Tredok faut absolument qu en catalogage on sache si une notice est utilisée dans une cmde, et rendre visible note de cmde... #kohails"
16:41 jcamins      Interesting: http://lj.libraryjournal.com/2013/02/opinion/aaron-schmidt/catalog-by-design-the-user-experience/
16:05 kf           thx :)
16:05 reiveune     bye
16:03 maximep      ok, will let you know later
15:59 kf           it's high on my list too
15:59 kf           maximep: could you let me know when youare working on it?
15:56 maximep      will see if I get a few hours to look at it
15:56 jcamins      Right.
15:56 maximep      so we still have to fix the <fine> syntax without regressions
15:55 maximep      make sense
15:55 jcamins      I think.
15:55 maximep      aaaaaaaaah ok
15:54 jcamins      And bug 9325 was caused by bug 8378, which I reverted.
15:54 jcamins      maximep: so far as I know 8378 was never pushed to 3.8.
15:54 maximep      and why is 9325 closed ? :S
15:54 maximep      8378 was revert from master, but any idea if it is still in 3.8
15:53 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9325 critical, P5 - low, ---, julian.maurice, RESOLVED FIXED, overdue notices sent same messages for all users.
15:53 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8378 minor, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, In Discussion , <fine> syntax not working on overdues anymore
15:53 maximep      hey guys, i'm trying to understand bug 8378 and bug 9325
15:51 tcohen       thanks oleonard
15:51 jenkins_koha Nicole C. Engard: update audience search examples
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15:50 oleonard     I think what you describe sounds reasonable
15:50 tcohen       or do u have some ajax-ish way of doing it
15:50 tcohen       is it ok to handle it like that?
15:49 tcohen       as hidden form fields, and provide a warning message with a button "save anyway"
15:49 tcohen       what i did is pass the template everything the user put there
15:48 tcohen       but needed some advise on how you handle warnings on the gui
15:48 tcohen       i wrote the code for the report warnings
15:48 oleonard     Do you mean me tcohen? If so, yes
15:47 tcohen       (well 2 minutes actually)
15:47 tcohen       do u have a second?
15:46 tcohen       hi oleonard
15:41 nengard      hi oleonard
15:38 oleonard     Hi #koha
15:36 jenkins_koha * Nicole C. Engard: add opacthemes to opac config checklist
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15:35 jcamins      k1: I have no idea, unfortunately.
15:34 magnuse      liw: ah, cool
15:34 k1           which file and where do I need to change, can i make these changes to sipconfig.xml?
15:31 liw          magnuse, the koha .deb certainly worked for me in 2010
15:31 jcamins      Though I suspect you can do the same thing in the configuration file.
15:30 jcamins      Yes.
15:29 k1           You mean to make changes to the file Net::Server (ipv=>4)
15:27 jcamins      Did you try atz's suggestion?
15:26 k1           good morning, Yesterday I mentioned that I have difficulty with IPV6 and SIP server on an older version (3.8.3). I got some advice to use the latest version 3.8.9.  I listened and installed every from the scratch ( ubuntu 12.04 server and Koha 3.8.9). But noting really changed. I still get this error when I try to open a telnet session: “Bad arg length for so
15:26 magnuse      jcamins: or a small ring over it
15:25 magnuse      nice
15:25 huginn       magnuse: The current temperature in Marseille, France is 11.0°C (4:00 PM CET on February 21, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 50%. Dew Point: 1.0°C. Pressure: 29.68 in 1005 hPa (Steady).
15:25 magnuse      @wunder marseille
15:25 magnuse      woohoo! (and remember, that is nort of the arctic circle ;-)
15:25 huginn       magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 4.0°C (3:50 PM CET on February 21, 2013). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 100%. Dew Point: 4.0°C. Windchill: 0.0°C. Pressure: 30.06 in 1018 hPa (Steady).
15:25 magnuse      @wunder boo
15:25 magnuse      that should be an airport that is pretty close
15:24 Dyrcona      It's warmer in Norway than here.....
15:24 huginn       magnuse: The current temperature in Villmarkstoppen, Norway is 0.4°C (4:22 PM CET on February 21, 2013). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 78%. Dew Point: -3.0°C. Windchill: 0.0°C. Pressure: 30.33 in 1027 hPa (Falling).
15:24 magnuse      @wunder trd
15:24 jcamins      Very nice.
15:24 huginn       Dyrcona: The current temperature in WB1CHU, Lawrence, Massachusetts is -2.8°C (10:21 AM EST on February 21, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 44%. Dew Point: -13.0°C. Windchill: -7.0°C. Pressure: 29.82 in 1010 hPa (Rising).
15:24 jcamins      magnuse: maybe you need to put a line through the e?
15:24 Dyrcona      @wunder 01845
15:24 nengard      HA!!
15:24 nengard      BRRRR
15:24 Dyrcona      I guess Hell has frozen over.
15:24 huginn       nengard: The current temperature in JAT Observatory, Fairless Hills, Pennsylvania is -1.8°C (10:15 AM EST on February 21, 2013). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 48%. Dew Point: -11.0°C. Windchill: -4.0°C. Pressure: 30.07 in 1018 hPa (Rising).
15:24 nengard      @wunder 19030
15:23 nengard      hmmm
15:23 huginn       nengard: The current temperature in Cobblestone Creek, Pinckney, Michigan is -5.8°C (10:20 AM EST on February 21, 2013). Conditions: Light Snow. Humidity: 79%. Dew Point: -9.0°C. Windchill: -6.0°C. Pressure: 30.32 in 1027 hPa (Steady).
15:23 nengard      @wunder hell
15:23 Dyrcona      Ah well.
15:23 huginn       Dyrcona: Error: No such location could be found.
15:23 Dyrcona      @wunder hel, norway
15:23 jcamins      [off] huginn does have a point about any place called "Cobblestone Creek," though.
15:22 jcamins      lol
15:21 magnuse      um, that looks like complete guesswork, huginn
15:21 huginn       jcamins: The current temperature in Glendale, Glendale, New York is -0.6°C (10:10 AM EST on February 21, 2013). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 42%. Dew Point: -12.0°C. Windchill: -5.0°C. Pressure: 30.01 in 1016 hPa (Steady).
15:21 jcamins      @wunder 11375
15:21 huginn       magnuse: The current temperature in Cobblestone Creek, Pinckney, Michigan is -5.8°C (10:15 AM EST on February 21, 2013). Conditions: Light Snow. Humidity: 79%. Dew Point: -9.0°C. Windchill: -6.0°C. Pressure: 30.32 in 1027 hPa (Steady).
15:21 magnuse      @wunder hell, norway
15:21 jcamins      magnuse: and my sources say it is unpleasantly cold there.
15:20 magnuse      Hell is a place just outside Trondheim, Norway ;-)
15:19 jcamins      lol
15:18 Dyrcona      jcamins: At least they didn't tell you to go to Hell....Oh, wait a minute..... :)
14:51 jcamins      Thanks for that, Facebook.
14:50 * jcamins    sent an e-mail to Facebook's abuse address and got an automated response telling him to go to www.facebook.com/help
14:48 bgkriegel    ok
14:47 jcamins      Yeah, I'm okay with (1) as it is, but (2) is an important one to address.
14:47 bgkriegel    jcamins: I put another 2 questions
14:46 jcamins      bgkriegel: you can leave it as "Passed QA," I think. Chris was addressing a last issue that I encountered when preparing to push.
14:46 tcohen       hola bgkriegel
14:45 bgkriegel    hi tcohen
14:45 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9587 new feature, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Passed QA , Allow login via mozilla persona - https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/persona/
14:45 bgkriegel    jcamins: signed last patch of bug 9587. Shuld I put state as signed-off so someone do QA?
14:45 magnuse      np
14:43 tcohen       thanks
14:43 tcohen       ok, that's a good one, at least i have a place to start
14:40 magnuse      no idea how that is handled behind the scenes, though
14:40 magnuse      sounds like the duplicate check that is done when adding a new marc record through the cataloguing interface?
14:39 magnuse      ah, guess i read your question too quickley
14:37 tcohen       do u remember some piece of gui code that uses AJAX for that purpose?
14:37 tcohen       thanks magnuse, the problem is I can only validate against DB
14:36 jenkins_koha Nicole C. Engard: add anonomize patron cron
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14:35 magnuse      tcohen: a javascript alert ok/cancel might save you a lot of work?
14:31 tcohen       am i clear?
14:30 tcohen       how do we do it on checkout?
14:30 tcohen       so if he picks "save anyway" i have the data in that context?
14:30 tcohen       my question is, should I pass his input to the template as hidden form fields?
14:29 tcohen       i wan't to check the input the user provided, and provide him with a dialog so he confirms the "save" action
14:29 jcamins      He is not. :P
14:29 tcohen       anyone that has written GUI stuff?
14:27 tcohen       hmm, better check he is here first
14:27 tcohen       oleonard, about patterns
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14:15 magnuse      jcamins: weird :-)
14:09 jcamins      Koha.
14:06 magnuse      does the server run koha or something else?
14:06 magnuse      jcamins: what is it requesting?
14:06 jenkins_koha Nicole C. Engard: update serial receive image
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14:05 drojf        abuse@facebook.com ?
14:05 jcamins      Very!
14:04 drojf        that's weird
14:04 drojf        lol
14:04 jcamins      No, but it is a DOSer.
14:04 wahanui      somebody said facebook was *not* a universal authenticator!
14:04 jcamins      Facebook.
14:04 jcamins      This time I had logs and could see who did it.
14:04 drojf        by facebook?
14:04 drojf        ouch
14:04 jcamins      drojf: every night around eleven, one of my servers gets DOSed.
14:04 jcamins      drojf: actually, it doesn't work at all so far as I know.
14:03 drojf        jcamins: huh?
14:03 drojf        from the wiki i take that it installs koha, just all the fancy stuff does not work
14:03 jcamins      Things that are weird: Facebook DOSing my server.
13:52 magnuse      did the koha package ever work? koha-common works nicely, of course
13:51 magnuse      tee hee
13:44 liw          the koha .deb is broken? oh no, my legacy!
13:32 tcohen       ;)
13:31 jcamins      tcohen: yup, I left a message for eythian about that. :)
13:31 tcohen       jcamins, in that case, we should remove koha
13:31 drojf        ah, make life difficult makes sense. so i am not missing the part why packages wouldn't work ;)
13:30 jcamins      *"
13:30 jcamins      I'm responding to say "use packages.
13:30 jcamins      drojf: because you want to make life difficult.
13:29 jcamins      tcohen: or koha-common left as is, in anticipation of the day koha works.
13:29 drojf        but why would you use the packages to install dependencies and then set up libraries manually?
13:29 tcohen       good morning BTW
13:29 tcohen       koha pakage should be removed, and koha-common renamed koha
13:28 jcamins      drojf: s/he used the tarball to install multiple instances without changing installation directories.
13:28 * drojf      doesn't understand what the multiple installation email means
12:46 drojf        i typed 'sidney' to search for it, and things like that are going on all day :D
12:45 drojf        or… forgot about it. with my brain these days…
12:45 drojf        oh i actually have a lot of mails from him in my inbox. i guess i never saw the address
12:43 nengard      :)
12:43 drojf        yeah i just found logs from 2011
12:42 nengard      fora while now
12:42 nengard      yes
12:38 drojf        [off] disney is using koha?
12:33 huginn       jcamins: The operation succeeded.
12:33 jcamins      @later tell eythian Is there a reason not to just remove the koha package, since fixing it would take more time than we have?
12:28 drojf        yeah it seems to be confusing
12:27 jcamins      I'm not sure why we still have it, since it's never going to be fixed.
12:26 magnuse      ouch!
12:26 drojf        magnuse: i had a library say that they tried packages and zebra did not work. turns out that was the koha package
12:25 magnuse      just use koha-common and create one instance instead... :-)
12:23 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5071 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, robin, NEW , Make the 'koha' package set things up so that zebra etc. just work
12:23 drojf        "koha is similar, but provides a single site. At the moment  however, this site can't be managed by the tools that come with the  package, and so you will need to set up the cron jobs and zebra for it  yourself. See bug 5071 for plans to fix this. It is not recommend that you use this package yet. "
12:23 drojf        ah found it on the wiki
12:22 jcamins      No.
12:22 drojf        is the package koha (not -common) usable?
11:26 jcamins      apt-cacher-ng is probably the way to go, then.
11:24 drojf        not sure yet. planned is "almost", possbile is "completely"
11:23 kf           drojf: I think the problem is you will be totally disconnected from the outside world? or almots?
11:23 drojf        thanks, i will look into that
11:23 jcamins      I use apt-cacher-ng.
11:23 jcamins      It's also possible to set up an apt cache, and automatically seed it.
11:22 jcamins      It's possible to set up an apt mirror, which I do not know how to do.
11:22 jcamins      drojf: yes, but there are two different ways to do it.
11:21 drojf        if i would like to mirror exactly all packages i need for a koha installation locally, would there be an easy way to do that?
11:17 jcamins      magnuse: Good morning to you too.
11:17 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5888 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, julian.maurice, Pushed to Master , opac-detail subject/author links improvements
11:17 magnuse      bug 5888
11:17 magnuse      good very early morning jcamins
10:57 jcamins      rangi: no, 5888 should not be backported.
10:48 drojf        that really got me confused for a minute :)
10:48 slef         oic
10:47 drojf        ah, i mixed that up with the zebraqueue thing
10:43 slef         drojf: isn't that normal?
10:42 slef         Berlin is a small city.  Everyone knows everyone else in it.
10:42 drojf        how likely is koha to explode with zebrasrv and daemon running simultaneously?
10:40 kf           rangi++
09:24 rangi        (mailing list)
09:23 rangi        hmm drojf do you know that person from berlin?
08:57 kf           heh
08:53 rangi        paul would take up too much of the bed :)
08:53 rangi        :)
08:51 magnuse      frenchism suspected? ;-)
08:50 kf           heh
08:46 drojf        rangi: why not? coziness++ ;)
08:33 rangi        unless biblibre do share beds :)
08:33 rangi        http://koha-community.org/kohacon/kohacon13/registration/
08:33 rangi        hmm im not sure paul meant that comment how it sounds
08:27 rangi        hi francharb
08:20 wahanui      hey, francharb
08:20 francharb    hi
08:02 magnuse      rangi++
07:53 jenkins_koha Chris Cormack: Release notes for 3.10.3
07:53 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.10.x build #68: SUCCESS in 40 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.10.x/68/
07:51 magnuse      woohoo!
07:51 huginn       magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 4.0°C (8:20 AM CET on February 21, 2013). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 93%. Dew Point: 3.0°C. Windchill: -2.0°C. Pressure: 30.09 in 1019 hPa (Steady).
07:51 magnuse      @wunder boo
07:51 huginn       magnuse: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is -3.5°C (8:45 AM CET on February 21, 2013). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 80%. Dew Point: -6.0°C. Windchill: -3.0°C. Pressure: 29.98 in 1015 hPa (Steady).
07:51 magnuse      @wunder konstanz
07:50 huginn       magnuse: The current temperature in Marseille, France is 0.0°C (8:00 AM CET on February 21, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 80%. Dew Point: -3.0°C. Pressure: 29.80 in 1009 hPa (Steady).
07:50 magnuse      @wunder marseille
07:50 * magnuse    waves
07:46 christophe_c hello
07:31 wahanui      salut, reiveune
07:31 reiveune     hello
07:29 wahanui      privet, alex_a
07:29 alex_a       bonjour
07:12 jenkins_koha Starting build #68 for job Koha_3.10.x (previous build: SUCCESS)
07:12 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9615 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Stable , Combine staff home page images into single sprite
07:12 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8079 normal, P5 - low, ---, kyle.m.hall, Pushed to Stable , opac not showing fines - says 'no'
07:12 jenkins_koha * Owen Leonard: Bug 9615 - Combine staff home page images into single sprite
07:12 jenkins_koha * Kyle M Hall: Bug 8079 - opac not showing fines - says 'no'
07:12 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.8.x build #275: SUCCESS in 39 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.8.x/275/
07:00 rangi        yup
07:00 cait         bed time stories all read? :)
07:00 cait         thx rangi
07:00 rangi        wb cait
06:35 * dcook      waves
06:35 dcook        Leaving work before 6pm for once, cait :P
06:34 dcook        All right, I have to head out!
06:33 jenkins_koha Starting build #275 for job Koha_3.8.x (previous build: SUCCESS)
06:33 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9145 major, P1 - high, ---, vfernandes, Pushed to Stable , Authorities: standard language for UNIMARC
06:33 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9615 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Stable , Combine staff home page images into single sprite
06:33 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8079 normal, P5 - low, ---, kyle.m.hall, Pushed to Stable , opac not showing fines - says 'no'
06:33 jenkins_koha * Chris Cormack: Bug 9145 : Bumping database version
06:33 jenkins_koha * Vitor FERNANDES: BUG 9145: Authorities: standard language for UNIMARC
06:33 jenkins_koha * Owen Leonard: Bug 9615 - Combine staff home page images into single sprite
06:33 jenkins_koha * Kyle M Hall: Bug 8079 - opac not showing fines - says 'no'
06:33 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.10.x build #67: SUCCESS in 41 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.10.x/67/
06:31 dcook        Not sure? Or just tired? :P
06:29 * dcook      ooohs and ahhhs over the Authority detail pages. Frameworks that work? Very possibly...
06:27 cait         hm yeah think so
06:27 dcook        Trip go well, cait?
06:26 dcook        ta, rangi
06:26 rangi        ok gotta read bedtime stories bbiab
06:25 rangi        yep go for it
06:25 rangi        http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/MARC_frameworks
06:24 * dcook      makes notes to self
06:24 dcook        I'd actually like to update the RDA framework you have there as well..
06:24 dcook        Mmm, very true. I imagine that there are quite a few useful frameworks out there that could be added to that
06:23 rangi        and we could notify the existance of the frameworks page on the wiki more widely too
06:23 dcook        hey cait :)
06:23 cait         hi rangi and dcook
06:23 rangi        hi cait
06:23 rangi        probably more of a koha-devel one
06:22 dcook        Or is that more of a koha-devel thing?
06:22 dcook        I probably won't have time to look at that for a while, but at least the idea would be out there
06:22 dcook        Shall I put out a report for an enhancement?
06:21 dcook        That would be convenient
06:21 rangi        saving someone else doing it
06:21 rangi        they can put it on the wiki
06:21 rangi        because once someone else has done one
06:21 rangi        the import and export is good
06:19 dcook        Well, maybe not. Like you said the other day, it's probably faster just to use the Web UI to add RDA tags for the MARC Authority frameworks..
06:18 dcook        The authorities frameworks could probably benefit from an import/export function like the biblios one...
06:17 dcook        Sys pref "MARCAuthorityControlField008" ftw
06:17 dcook        Mmm, neato
06:15 dcook        The Bib1 one isn't a big deal, but I'm glad that subtype one got in
06:14 dcook        Hmm
06:11 rangi        2 patches in 3.10.3 for you
06:11 rangi        i think i might leave it, in the interests of stability
06:09 * dcook      is trying to figure out how to specify different default values for authorities...
06:09 dcook        Just noticed that syspref today actually
06:09 dcook        I'm of no opinion on that one, rangi.
05:51 jenkins_koha Starting build #67 for job Koha_3.10.x (previous build: SUCCESS)
05:51 rangi        do we want that in 3.10 and 3.8 ?
05:51 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5888 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, julian.maurice, Pushed to Master , opac-detail subject/author links improvements
05:51 rangi        hmm opinions on bug 5888
02:30 dcook        Hi Irma
02:30 * dcook      waves
02:06 jcamins      Heh.
02:04 mtj          ^^ hey liblime, thats why you have an open bug-tracking database to your open-source software
01:42 dcook        Glad to know that other people outside the library world are interested in library-related stuff
01:41 * dcook      just re-read the scrollback
01:41 dcook        Neato
01:31 wizzyrea     hehe yea
01:30 mtj          wow, that was a pretty awesome fly-by :)
01:28 ribasushi    aight I'll be on my way, good luck with the project and ask for help if anything &
01:20 rangi        ahh cool
01:20 ribasushi    so make sure you get a fresh depchain off CPAN (it got fixed like 3 days ago)
01:20 ribasushi    btw it used to emit incomprehensible warnings on STDERR (Devel::Pekk dumps) due to a set of fails stacking together to make baby jesus cry
01:20 rangi        well that's my weekend sorted then :)
01:18 rangi        *nod*
01:18 ribasushi    (it was the best folks could come up at the time, times change)
01:18 ribasushi    ::Versioned will leave you by the side of the road half-way
01:17 ribasushi    more complicated due to being much more comprehensive and flexible, but worth the curve
01:17 rangi        sweet
01:17 ribasushi    look into DBIx::Class::Migrations instead
01:17 rangi        that answers that
01:17 rangi        cool
01:17 rangi        worth investigating, or do you have a better idea for tracking db changes
01:17 ribasushi    not recommended
01:17 rangi        oh, random question .. we were thinking of looking into DBIx::Class::Schema::Versioned
01:16 ribasushi    aye, happy to help
01:16 ribasushi    I am dgital packrat, library-related stuff always has a special place in my mind ;)
01:16 rangi        excellent thank you
01:16 ribasushi    I don't do much IRC lately, but you can hit me at ribasushi@cpan.org if you get stuck down the road
01:14 rangi        thanks, yes it does
01:14 jcamins      Thanks!
01:14 ribasushi    HTH
01:14 ribasushi    an SQL-dump that is
01:14 ribasushi    please check if latest version off CPAN generates the same crap, and if it does file an RT, with a dump of both of your tables in question
01:14 rangi        cool, well they all need to be regened anyway being now totally out of date
01:13 ribasushi    right, S::L is at fault here
01:13 ribasushi    while on the other side there got to be: Patronimage->might_have (... )
01:13 ribasushi    belongs_to ( $relname, $target_whose_reference_we_hold, $column_where_we_hold_reference, { join_type => 'left' } ) <--- last bit to indicate optionality (there isn't a might_belong_to, eben though there ought to be)
01:13 rangi        so it's  DBIx::Class::Schema::Loader doing something wonky, since those are all generated (not human authored) files :)
01:12 ribasushi    you use
01:12 ribasushi    for this you do not use might_have
01:11 ribasushi    what you are trying to express is "A borrower may optionally be related to a Patronimage, by storing the Patronimage PK in a column of Borrower"
01:11 jcamins      Right.
01:11 ribasushi    and here is your Patronimage: http://paste.scsys.co.uk/231632?ln=on&submit=Format+it!
01:10 ribasushi    here is your Borrower: http://paste.scsys.co.uk/231631?ln=on&submit=Format+it!
01:10 ribasushi    jcamins: right, so the warning is correct - you are doing something wonky
01:04 ribasushi    that'll do - reading
01:04 jcamins      Unfortunately, all the code is just on the bug at the moment: http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/attachment.cgi?id=12480
01:04 ribasushi    jcamins: where can I look at the code in question? (link to the file with the warning-emitting relationship is best)
01:03 jcamins      ribasushi: yes please!
01:03 * dcook      thinks he needs to close his chat window or his body might devour itself from the inside out
01:02 ribasushi    I can help clarify if anyone is interested
01:02 ribasushi    there is a thing there about a warning that seems to confuse everyone
01:02 huginn       04Bug 8798: enhancement, P3, ---, elliott, Signed Off , Add the use of DBIx::Class
01:02 ribasushi    I was idly googling and saw this bugthread http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8798#c27
01:02 wizzyrea     anyway it's amazing.
01:01 wizzyrea     http://www.whittakers.co.nz/#/products/darkghanapips/ this kind but in blocks
01:01 riba         O HAI
01:01 * jcamins    would take any chocolate right about now!
01:00 wizzyrea     >.<
01:00 wizzyrea     I'm trying to find it on their website but it is in flash
01:00 wizzyrea     oh you should taste the chocolate they have here -
00:59 jcamins      Why yes, I _have_ managed to come up with the most absurd set of constraints ever.
00:59 jcamins      (and we don't have any other chocolate)
00:59 jcamins      wizzyrea: the problem is I want chocolate, and adding cocoa powder to those is never as satisfying as I wish.
00:59 wizzyrea     sometimes with curry, sometimes without
00:59 wizzyrea     I have made them lots of times, sometimes with chocolate, sometimes without, sometimes with fruit, sometimes without
00:58 jcamins      Only if you object to the ultimate awesomeness that is those cookies.
00:58 jcamins      lol
00:58 dcook        For a moment, I thought you said depraved :p
00:58 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5158 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, camins, ASSIGNED , Koha needs its own cookie, ice cream, and fudge flavors
00:58 wahanui      curried coconut oatmeal chocolate chip cookies are at http://www.cookiemadness.net/2009/05/curry-coconut-oatmeal-chocolate-chip-cookies/
00:58 jcamins      curried coconut oatmeal chocolate chip cookies?
00:58 wizzyrea     bug 5158
00:58 jcamins      dcook is horribly deprived!
00:58 jcamins      !
00:58 * dcook      's brain explodes
00:58 dcook        oatmeal coconut curry?
00:57 jcamins      wizzyrea: true, those always come out great.
00:57 wizzyrea     I have made them many times
00:57 dcook        That's why I either eat them right out of the oven or re-introduce them to heat
00:57 jcamins      So I'm thinking this is the _perfect_ showcase for for the rich yumminess that is avocado.
00:57 wizzyrea     the oatmeal coconut curry ones
00:57 wizzyrea     not the koha ones
00:57 dcook        True
00:57 jcamins      The thing about oatmeal cookies is they tend to be dry.
00:56 jcamins      I'm almost tempted to make these, or something like them: http://catesworldkitchen.com/2010/04/chocolate-oatmeal-cookies/
00:56 dcook        ...and not in the position to have such a delicious meal :p
00:56 jcamins      You're welcome.
00:56 jcamins      lol
00:56 dcook        You've made me acutely aware that it is lunch time and I am hungry
00:55 dcook        Mmm
00:55 jcamins      Yup. :)
00:55 dcook        Ergo the baking
00:55 jcamins      So I used two in dinner (fingerling potatos baked then sautéed with garlic and onion served with an avocado-goat cheese dressing), and the third is going into dessert.
00:54 jcamins      However, I also had 6 avocados in the house, 3 of which needed to be used today.
00:54 jcamins      I have a single stick of butter, and no chocolate -- just cocoa -- which complicates baking.
00:54 dcook        Makes sense
00:53 jcamins      ^^ bingo
00:53 dcook        Such as not enough butter in the fridge?
00:53 jcamins      Actually, I eat lots of dairy.
00:53 dcook        jcamins: Good to know on both counts ;). Are you vegan yourself or non-dairy for other reasons?
00:53 dcook        Makes sense, mtj
00:53 mtj          .. so, removing the amazon code seems like the only option we had
00:52 jcamins      dcook: I don't know much about carpentry.
00:52 dcook        mtj: Ah, right. That was the ticket!
00:52 mtj          dcook, we concluded that koha no longer complies with amazon's TOS
00:52 dcook        Mmm
00:52 jcamins      It's the sort of thing you'd come up with to serve brownies to a vegan, but not necessarily something you'd come up with to show off the chocolate-avocado pairing.
00:51 dcook        Koha master and baker? Is there anything you don't know, jcamins? :P
00:51 jcamins      I feel like that's not really taking advantage of avocado.
00:50 jcamins      The recipe.
00:50 dcook        In reality or the recipe?
00:50 jcamins      The avocado brownies fail to excite me.
00:49 dcook        Ah, that sounds familiar ;)
00:49 jcamins      We were happy, snide remarks were made about Amazon. :)
00:48 jcamins      Whatever. :P
00:48 jcamins      Jeers.
00:47 dcook        Cheers?
00:47 mtj          yep, they got removed recently, to a round of cheers :p
00:47 * dcook      seems to remember some conversation about enhanced content on koha-devel recently
00:46 dcook        Did we remove Amazon Reviews at some point, or am I missing some sys prefs in my dev install?
00:46 dcook        Hmm, neato!
00:45 mtj          coconut meat was their secret ingredient, apparently :)
00:44 mtj          the show was about 2 people that owned a vegen food-catering company, for big events
00:42 * dcook      wishes that he had a publicly accessible image of the coconut that he demolished the other day in search of fresh coconut meat
00:42 mtj          … on some foody tv show, it looked very impressive
00:42 mtj          i recently saw a bizzare recipe for a chocolate cake that had avocado and… fresh coconut meat?!
00:41 dcook        mtj: Hmm...not bad
00:37 mtj          dcook, i think the default rule applies … Motörhead
00:33 mtj          bgkriegel, aaah, reading back properly - it looks like you have already done step 2, sorry! :)
00:33 * dcook      wonders if anyone has a bug squashing theme song...
00:29 mtj          … that would be better, and would mean that people dont have to overwrite their ~/perlcriticrc file
00:29 mtj          hmmm, actually why doesnt koha-qa.pl attempt to use  ./koha/perlcriticrc instead
00:27 mtj          $ cp /path/to/your/koha-qa-tools/perlcriticrc ~/
00:27 mtj          2/ copy perlcriticrc file to your home dir (important!)
00:27 mtj          step 2 :)
00:27 mtj          https://github.com/Koha-Community/koha-qa-test
00:27 mtj          bgkriegel, the README for koha-qa.pl mentions the perlcriticrc setup
00:27 mtj          hi all
00:12 dcook        Ok, back to what I'm supposed to be doing...
00:11 dcook        Ack