Time Nick Message 23:56 dcook Maybe it's just the wording 23:56 dcook ...that bug looks weird 23:56 bgkriegel ok, ignore :) 23:55 bgkriegel in my home 23:55 bgkriegel mm, i'm using koha-qa and percritic file 23:54 jcamins The perlcriticrc file in the Koha repo tells perlcritic to ignore it. 23:54 dcook Intriguing... 23:53 jcamins Ignore the perlcritic complaint. 23:48 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5608 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, mdhafen, Needs Signoff , Tool to move MARC21 series info to 490 tag 23:48 bgkriegel jcamins: testing bug 5608. Perlcritic complains about a require statement, but there are lots of scripts that also fails (or not but use same code). What to do? 23:39 dcook My partner is vegan and I'm increasingly so myself, so always good to see non-dairy recipes 23:39 dcook Oooo that looks good 23:38 jcamins However, I am simply going to replace a stick of butter with an avocado. 23:38 jcamins I found these: http://dairyfreecooking.about.com/od/cookies/r/Avocado-Brownies.htm 23:38 jcamins Yes they are. 23:37 dcook P.P.S. are avocados ridiculously expensive in the US as well? 23:37 dcook P.S. avocado cookies? I'm intrigued. 23:37 dcook I see what you're saying now 23:37 dcook O_o 23:36 jcamins wtf? 23:36 jcamins Now there are "three ingredient" recipes for avocado cookies that call for "avocados, milk, and cake mix." 23:36 dcook As opposed to? 23:36 jcamins It used to be that you used cake mix for, well, cake. 23:36 jcamins dcook: no, this is more recent. 23:35 dcook Admittedly, I've often been a mix/pre-made person, but my partner is giving me flak, so b ack to actual ingredients we go! 23:34 dcook jcamins: By trend, do you mean the past 20-30 years? :p 23:30 jcamins What is with this trend of using cake mix instead of actual ingredients? 23:29 jcamins Butter problem = a thing of the past 23:29 jcamins AVOCADO!!!! 23:29 jcamins http://catesworldkitchen.com/2010/04/chocolate-oatmeal-cookies/ <-- I could make that and add a few tablespoons of avocado... 23:27 jcamins Suggestions? 23:27 jcamins I have one stick of butter and cocoa powder, and would like to bake something dessert-like with it. 23:17 * dcook chuckles 23:16 jcamins lol 23:16 wahanui That'll be $1 for the awesome jar, jcamins 23:16 jcamins Awesome! 23:16 rangi right 23:16 jcamins Right, but the Persona server isn't connecting to /opac/svc/login, it's /opac/svc/login making the connection to Persona. 23:16 rangi with a persona server somewhere, in this case the main one 23:16 rangi however that script has to verify the assertion given to it by the client 23:15 rangi script created for this 23:15 rangi there is an /opac/svc/login 23:15 jcamins Very cool! 23:15 jcamins Ohhh. 23:15 rangi yep thats local 23:15 jcamins And the commit message mentioned a /svc/login call. 23:15 rangi to persona 23:15 rangi what happens is the client logs in 23:15 jcamins I didn't look at the code yet since I couldn't figure out how to get it working. 23:14 rangi nope 23:14 rangi then no it wont work 23:14 jcamins I thought it had some sort of callback. 23:14 rangi if the server cant verify an assertion with a persona server 23:14 jcamins No, I meant behind a firewall. 23:14 jcamins But... how? 23:14 wizzyrea perhaps? 23:14 rangi as long as that server can talk to the internet that is 23:14 wizzyrea you mean "not internet connected" 23:14 jcamins Oh, good! 23:13 rangi yeah it does 23:13 jcamins Right. 23:13 rangi my 192.168.2.188 server i developed it on? 23:13 rangi how do you mean? 23:13 jcamins I just realized something... Persona doesn't work with non-public servers, does it? 23:06 rgbv :) 23:06 wizzyrea fly little apostrophes! fly! 23:06 rangi cool 23:05 rgbv cheers, thats most helpful, I'll get them to set the apostrophes free 23:04 rangi rgbv: i hope that makes sense and/or is helpful :) 23:04 rangi rgbv: so its being blocked before getting to koha 23:04 wizzyrea maaadness 23:03 rangi ' is fine ’ isnt 23:03 wizzyrea can't handle not %27 apostrophes 23:03 rangi jcamins: only windows ones it appears 23:03 jcamins rangi: ... IIS can't handle apostrophes? 23:03 wizzyrea works for me ^.^ 23:03 wizzyrea http://www.library.waitaki.govt.nz/cgi-bin/koha/opac-search.pl?q=Mother's 23:02 rangi you will see entries appear in the log 23:02 rangi otoh 23:02 rangi if you hit http://www.library.waitaki.govt.nz/cgi-bin/koha/opac-search.pl?q=Mother%27s 23:02 rangi you will notice nothing gets to koha 23:02 rangi http://www.library.waitaki.govt.nz/cgi-bin/koha/opac-search.pl?q=Mother%E2%80%99s 23:02 rangi and then hit the page 23:02 jcamins Other than that, everything stays. 23:02 rangi tail -f /var/log/koha/waitaki/opac-access.log 23:01 jcamins But actually, I'm not even sure it gets replaced by the deleted date. 23:01 rangi rgbv: run 23:01 wizzyrea I'm not sure about that 23:01 rangi rgbv: ahh its definitely not getting to koha 23:01 jcamins Date last edited, maybe. 23:01 rgbv rangi: what do I need to look for in the logs? (I have'nt much xp with them) 23:01 jatara so when an item is "deleted" are there any aspects of that record that are permanently gone? 23:01 drojf good night #koha 23:00 dcook jcamins: I've always been skeptical of openID (although I didn't know it as openID at the time), although I suppose it's always difficult to gauge the reliability of the message of a competing technology 22:59 jcamins Right. 22:59 wizzyrea right 22:59 dcook hehe 22:59 jatara so if an item is deleted via batch delete, we still keep a record of it (sorta), but that record is not easily retrieved, corect? 22:59 jcamins At least, I think that was what the Persona site said. 22:59 rangi but the logs would confirm that guess 22:59 rangi rgbv: from what i can tell its not reaching the koha server being blocked by IIS before it can get there 22:58 jcamins dcook: very similar, except with less XSS. 22:58 dcook rangi: Is the persona concept similar or the same to openID? A friend of mine mentioned it as a viable possibility yesterday. I'm not super knowledgeable about authentication, but she couldn't seem to think of why openID wouldn't work with Koha 22:58 jcamins Your point? :P 22:58 wizzyrea sorry. mad scheme. 22:58 wizzyrea well that is insane. 22:58 jcamins wizzyrea: but that is why my college library listed withdrawn items. 22:57 wizzyrea more likely they would say "why do you list 15 items if you only have 5" 22:57 jcamins wizzyrea: nor have I. 22:57 wizzyrea i have never once heard a patron say anything like that 22:57 jcamins Patrons can see "okay, they used to have fifteen copies, now they have five... I guess this is the best-seller from fifteen years ago." 22:57 wizzyrea ...if you are using that 22:57 jatara how so? 22:56 rgbv hi Chris :), cheers I'll look at the log 22:56 jcamins jatara: yes, it offers a better way of tracking popularity. 22:56 wahanui http://xkcd.com/1172/ 22:56 huginn wizzyrea: Quote #123: "rangi: #thingsihavelearnt if there is a mad scheme a library somewhere will be doing it ... except madder" (added by wizzyrea at 09:20 PM, March 30, 2011) 22:56 wizzyrea @quote get 123 22:56 rangi /var/log/koha/waitaki/ 22:56 wizzyrea heh, I can't answer that for you 22:56 jatara are there any reasons why a library would prefer a withdraw over a batch delete? 22:55 rangi you could look at the the error logs in 22:55 rangi the cause is the lovely microsoft ’ vs ' 22:55 rangi that sounds like the proxy between you and koha throwing that error 22:54 rangi ahh hey chris 22:54 rgbv 3.06.07.000 @ waitaki for better or worse I administer the server 22:54 rangi ill resurrect it one day 22:54 * wizzyrea sighs 22:54 rangi by the demonspawn 22:54 wizzyrea (anymore) 22:54 rangi it got killed version 3.0 22:53 rangi it keeps the full record, and there used to be an interface 22:53 wizzyrea but there's nowhere in the interface to view deleted items 22:53 wizzyrea I think it doesn't keep every little thing 22:53 rangi rgbv: and what version of koha is it? 22:53 jatara gone for good 22:53 drojf rgbv: are you the server administrator? 22:53 rangi rgbv: that doesn't sound like a Koha error, is there a proxy between you and Koha? 22:53 jatara i didn't know you could run a report on deleted items, so even when "deleted," they're not good for good? 22:52 wizzyrea http://schema.koha-community.org/tables/deleteditems.html 22:52 rgbv it gives this error: Technical Information (for support personnel) Error Code: 500 Internal Server Error. The request was rejected by the HTTP filter. Contact the server administrator. (12217) 22:51 wizzyrea http://schema.koha-community.org/tables/deletedbiblio 22:51 wahanui schema is tracked in git. or found at http://schema.koha-community.org 22:51 wizzyrea schema? 22:51 wizzyrea schema 22:51 wizzyrea select (stuff) from deleteditems 22:51 jcamins rgbv: is it telling you that it can't load a module? 22:50 jatara you can do a report on deleted items? how? 22:50 rgbv opac searches are not resolving ' that are pasted in they give this: ../opac-search.pl?idx=&q=Mother’s which gives a nasty error page rather than ../opac-search.pl?q=Mother's 22:50 wizzyrea you can do reports on both, so that's not an issue 22:50 wizzyrea (easier to just re--add it ) 22:49 wizzyrea deleted ones are harder. 22:49 wizzyrea you can easily restore a withdrawn item 22:49 wizzyrea withdrawn items will still show in the catalog, deleted ones won't 22:49 jatara What are the pros and cons of either option? 22:48 drojf or, not do? 22:48 drojf rgbv: what does it do? 22:48 wizzyrea there is no technical reason to do it one way or the other 22:48 wizzyrea jatara- that is entirely a matter of library policy 22:47 rangi hmm? 22:47 rgbv I've noticed some weird behavior in koha since upgrading the server this morning 22:47 jatara Got a quick question...I was wondering if there was any reason not to use batch delete with weeding items as opposing to withdrawing books? 22:47 rangi nope if it doesnt match, you have to either login with one that does, or do it the old way 22:47 rangi :) 22:46 drojf rangi: ah, alright then. i was wondering if some magic was supposed to happen to still log in. i was just thinking how that will work with the email encryption if the address is not in koha *looks at "unfinished projects i got no time for"-pile* 22:45 wizzyrea hi 22:45 rgbv hi all 22:44 rangi Couldn't log you in, perhaps your emails don't match (or words to taht effect) 22:43 rangi but instead gives you a nice message saying 22:43 rangi now its just going to not loop continuously trying to log you in 22:43 drojf rangi: what is it supposed to do in the last case? 22:43 wizzyrea you mean persona? 22:42 jcamins wizzyrea: just make sure not to forget your password. 22:42 alohabot Hi mib_ardh24, Welcome to #koha. 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If you need any help, just ask - there's usually someone around to help :) 22:41 rangi handling when you login to persona with an email not in koha :) 22:41 wizzyrea i really ought to get one of those:P 22:41 rangi thats what i was just fixing 22:41 wizzyrea ohhhh cool. 22:41 rangi and pick the one you want to login to koha with 22:40 rangi (you can associate multiple emails addesses to your persona account) 22:40 wizzyrea anyway yes, probably a future enhancement 22:40 wizzyrea because it might be different from the one they want to receive notices from 22:40 rangi yep thats a possible future enhancement 22:40 wizzyrea ok hear me out - maybe a patron should be able to select the email field to use for persona 22:39 rangi so, short answer persona wont protect you from crazy library staff :) 22:39 wizzyrea right of course. 22:39 rangi and youd be getting all their overdue emails etc too 22:39 rangi ie persona verifies your email 22:39 rangi itd have to be the one that you have access to 22:38 rangi yep 22:38 wizzyrea or multiple people 22:38 rangi if library staff go round assiging your email to the wrong ppl 22:38 rangi yep 22:38 wizzyrea or the library staff were 22:38 rangi but since you were already in there before that 22:38 rangi then you could login to theirs 22:37 rangi so yes if you got into someones account set the email to yours 22:37 rangi only if that person has the email address you are logging into persona with 22:37 wizzyrea i guess the answer to the first question is, you can't accidentally get into the wrong account using persona, can you? 22:36 wizzyrea cool 22:36 rangi yep, theyd have to login the old fashioned way 22:36 wizzyrea or husband and wife pair, often the elderly do this 22:35 wizzyrea ah ok 22:35 wizzyrea what happens if you have a parent who has a kid, and the parent put their email on the kid's account 22:35 rangi you'll get the first match in that case 22:35 rangi probably not 22:35 rangi im not sure if we do 22:34 wizzyrea we don't force emails to be unique do we 22:34 wizzyrea cool 22:34 rangi only primary at this stage 22:34 wizzyrea does it check all of the email fields? 22:34 wizzyrea \o/ 22:33 rangi but now it traps the error and gives you an alert and stops the redirect loop 22:33 rangi ill change borrower to Koha 22:32 rangi Could not login, perhaps your persona email does not match your borrower one 22:32 rangi yay now we get 22:30 rangi perfect 22:30 jcamins _("Text for translation") 22:29 rangi hmm whats the trick we do with the _ we do in js? 22:09 cait night all :) 22:00 rangi now just to get it to do a nice error message 21:59 rangi ok, stopped the looping 21:55 wizzyrea much nicer to just have a separate user. 21:55 wizzyrea at least that's the thing that annoys me the most 21:55 wizzyrea re: the db admin user 21:55 wizzyrea the worst thing was that every time you went to issue something, it would ask you to set your library then dump you back to wherever you started instead of where you were going 21:54 wahanui magnuse: I forgot which one 21:54 magnuse wahanui: forget which one 21:54 wahanui which one is the "native" files? 21:54 magnuse which one? 21:54 wizzyrea i laughed at that email too 21:50 rangi golden too 21:50 rangi yeah that is golded jcamins 21:48 magnuse dpavlin is coming to marseille too? cool! 21:43 rangi lol 21:43 jcamins I found that amusing. 21:43 jcamins Someone sent a message to the list reporting that as a bug. 21:41 rangi i do like that you are logged in as the db admin 21:35 cait mine too 21:34 rangi hmm my brain has the dumb 21:33 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #1059: FIXED in 1 hr 6 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/1059/ 21:33 jenkins_koha Yippie, build fixed! 21:20 wizzyrea gr too slow 21:20 wizzyrea byeee 21:19 oleonard Bye #koha 20:58 tweetbot` [off] twitter: @kohails: "#kohails KohaCon13 Registration and Call for Presentations Open http://t.co/92P1rxFi" 20:46 rangi but either way i need to make it handle valid persona, invalid koha, better 20:46 cait so borrowers.email = personaemail? 20:46 rangi if you view source the bottom of the page should have the email address set in it (in the js) 20:45 rangi hmm weird 20:45 jcamins rangi: I tried it with both my e-mail addresses, which are associated with two different accounts, and in neither case did it log me in. 20:44 rangi jcamins: oh yeah i meant to ask, the persona thing, could it be differing emails? if so I need to do a follow up to handle that nicer 20:44 cait yep 20:44 jcamins it has no impact on the intranet. 20:44 jcamins Wait... 20:43 jcamins I see the virtualshelves syspref, but that seems to be for staff client and OPAC. 20:43 oleonard jcamins: No 20:43 cait add some reall ycool features? 20:42 jcamins Do we really not have a way to disable lists on the OPAC only? 20:42 cait hm you wanted to... 20:42 rangi i wonder what i was actually planning to do today 20:34 tweetbot` [off] twitter: @aestivus: "@nengard Not live yet, alas! And thanks for the hashtag tip! #kohails" 20:32 cait heh 20:32 rangi heh 20:32 * oleonard sounds like a mailing list email! 20:32 oleonard I tried again but then gave up 20:31 jcamins oleonard: didn't crash for me, though loading the source took a long time. 20:31 cait wizzyrea: good. 20:28 wizzyrea nope, not so near my house 20:28 oleonard Not on fire I take it wizzyrea? 20:27 * wizzyrea waves 20:27 * jcamins tries 20:26 rangi too big? 20:26 jcamins Really? 20:26 oleonard Neat. If you try to view source on authorities/authorities.pl in Firefox or Chrome you'll crash the browser. 20:26 jenkins_koha Starting build #1059 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #1056 6 hr 35 min ago) 20:26 rangi heh 20:26 jenkins_koha rangi: job koha_master build scheduled now 20:26 rangi !jenkins build koha_master now 20:24 drojf [off] "If you are alone and want to find your love, you can write me and we'll start communicating." <- aaaw isn't that a nice email to get from a stranger? 20:20 rangi http://archive.org/details/Kohacon09Keynote <-- probably there too 20:20 drojf heh. "version of". yeah right, starts with a big "c". sorry, have been studying all day, brain is off 20:19 rangi ah yep 20:19 drojf i think it was http://blip.tv/the-curious-and-wondering-eye/kohacon10-video-1-rosalie-blake-4367524 20:19 rangi when we started writing an ils for a deadline in 3 months 20:18 jcamins lol 20:18 rangi i couldnt decide which 20:18 rangi or explode 20:18 rangi C4 was gonna be twice as good 20:18 rangi C2 20:18 rangi that 20:18 rangi http://www.accessmylibrary.com/article-1G1-18509289/contec-c2-graphical-user.html 20:17 Dyrcona Carl? 20:17 rangi i might have and forgotten about it :) 20:17 jcamins The excellent history of Koha talk. 20:17 jcamins rangi: I presumed since drojf said that that _you_ did the talk. 20:17 drojf :) 20:17 drojf ah 20:17 drojf something something cheerful version of $system_beginning_with_c. sorry, not too much that i remember 20:17 wahanui hmmm... C4 is a high explosive :-) or "Cheap & Cheerful Copy of (the ILS program HLT used to use)" 20:17 rangi C4? 20:17 rangi who did that talk? 20:16 jcamins Yes, but I've forgotten and that would require watching a video. 20:16 drojf there is a talk about that ;) 20:16 jcamins What did C4 stand for originally? 20:15 rangi http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/8332389/Wellington-blaze-It-was-just-a-ring-of-fire <-- good work those firefighters 20-50 houses saved 20:13 drojf hi rangi 20:13 rangi back 19:56 drojf good luck for that :) 19:55 cait well the written one for that course 19:55 cait exam on march 2nd 19:55 drojf cool 19:55 cait I finished last night 19:55 cait heh 19:55 drojf came to tell you to go and study, but remembered you were on a trip when i did not see you here ;) 19:55 cait hi drojf 19:54 drojf hi cait 19:51 * cait waves from home 19:45 drojf good evening #koha 19:22 * maximep hates to be the guy that really wants it but has no time to do it 19:21 maximep cool 19:19 rangi so thats a possibility if someone wants to write up a plan ill vote yes for it in the next meeting 19:18 rangi yeah that worked a treat 19:16 rangi lemme try on that whole file 19:16 rangi and would ignore whitepace 19:16 rangi we could totally perltidy a file (as a sep commit) 19:15 rangi so yep 19:15 rangi that was a trailing tab, then a tab to a space 19:14 rangi 13f6840c (rych 2007-03-09 20:33:59 +0000 1) #!/usr/bin/perl 19:14 rangi git blame -w 19:14 rangi 28d9f13c (Chris Cormack 2013-02-21 08:11:33 +1300 1) #!/usr/bin/perl 19:14 wahanui git blame is, like, handy, but it's just one tool in our debugging arsenal 19:14 rangi git blame 19:14 maximep git merge -w would fix my merge conflicts 19:13 maximep I should just add -w to everything 19:13 rangi lemme just test 19:13 rangi yep 19:13 wahanui That'll be $1 for the awesome jar, jcamins 19:13 jcamins Awesome! 19:13 maximep that includes tabs to spaces ? 19:12 rangi ignore whitespace changes .. et viola we dont lose history 19:12 rangi git blame -w 19:12 rangi -w 19:12 maximep :p 19:11 wahanui Whitespace merge conflicts are the worst 19:11 jcamins Whitespace merge conflicts? 19:11 maximep whitespace merge conflicts are the worst 19:11 maximep I turn off all my whitespace and tidy stuff when I work in koha :/ 19:10 rangi which would mean we could do a mass tidy 19:10 rangi actually i learnt a trick 19:10 * oleonard has a pre-commit hook that checks for whitespace problems in changed lines 19:09 rangi exactly 19:09 maximep than doing something wrong 19:09 maximep id rather have my patch rejected multiple times because of style 19:09 rangi so the person writing the patch gets blamed hehe, but blame doesnt really matter if it means the tab is fixed :) 19:09 maximep nice 19:08 rangi often a commit moves something a line down and then the qa tools notice hey that line has tabs 19:08 jcamins bgkriegel++ 19:08 jcamins Yeah, bgkriegel's doing amazing signoffs. 19:08 rangi the koha-qa tools will catch any stuff that is wrong in the commit 19:07 rangi actually bgkriegel has been good about fix tabs etc when he signs off 19:07 maximep ah, good point 19:07 jcamins maximep: the problem is that the style guidelines are more about Perl than the templates, and the TT transition involved ve... yes, exactly. 19:06 rangi maximep: that actually only touched a very small amount of perl 19:06 rangi but i love it when people fix the formatting of whatever they are touching 19:06 maximep too bad we didnt do it when we moved to tt :/ 19:06 maximep ah, i see 19:05 jcamins maximep: yes, and we're not doing it. It loses too much history. 19:04 maximep or better, just reformat everything following the coding style in the wiki 19:04 maximep was there ever a discussion about just doing a mega patch reformating all the code to be spaces instead of tabs ? 18:54 maximep sure 18:53 atz there are numerous other gotchas like that 18:53 atz for example, request to webservices providing webfonts. IE (8/9) needs those in <head>. 18:52 maximep you mean the other js ? 18:52 atz oleonard: .... for *most* operations, but not all (in all browsers) 18:50 oleonard More than just intranetuserjs could be moved to the footer 18:50 magnuse create a new syspref called intranetuserjslast? 18:49 cait brb 18:49 maximep it executes the document ready in the order you give them 18:48 cait hm shouldn't it work the same? 18:48 maximep I could send a patch, but it would probably break some userjs :/ 18:47 maximep trying to do stuff in javascript for once instead of doing it directly in the templates =) 18:46 jcamins maximep: I don't know, but I would think it would, yes. 18:46 maximep anyone has an idea of why is intranetuserjs in the header ? Wouldn't it make more sense to have it at the bottom of the footer, to be executed last ? 18:34 magnuse yeah! 18:33 rangi good old mibbit 18:25 jcamins The downloads page lists the current version of 3.8.x. 18:25 jcamins Why were you looking for 3.8.2? 18:25 mib_7j1otm Got it last week, downloaded from community by version number. 18:23 rangi 3.8.9 is out ... where did you manage to get 3.8.2 from without seeing 3.8.9 just want to know so others dont make the same mistake 18:22 mib_7j1otm I will try this and let you know thanks 18:19 atz or you could try to downgrade Net::Server below 2.005 18:17 atz so try adding that to the run() call 18:17 atz "You can force IPv4 only by adding an ipv => 4" 18:16 atz "NOTE: beginning in Net::Server 2.005, the default value......" 18:16 atz here: http://search.cpan.org/~rhandom/Net-Server-2.007/lib/Net/Server.pod#SOCKET_ACCESS 18:15 jcamins That is a very old bug on an unrelated project. 18:15 atz that probably is just a new default behavior for Net::Server 18:14 mib_7j1otm The problem with sip2 using TCP6 instead of TCP4 is also mentioned here : http://osdir.com/ml/debian-bugs-dist/2010-08/msg00548.html 18:11 mib_7j1otm I used tarball 18:04 jcamins mib_7j1otm: the current 3.8.x version is 3.8.9, which would be even better to use than 3.8.6. 18:03 oleonard mib_7j1otm: What method are you using to install Koha? Packages? tarball? 18:00 mib_7j1otm just tried 3.10 and could not get it running then I switched to 3.8.2, just didn't know about 3.8.6 17:56 jcamins There were important security fixes in 3.8.6. 17:56 jcamins Also, why 3.8.2? 17:56 jcamins mib_7j1otm: sounds like a problem with your configuration, but I don't know enough about troubleshooting SIP2 to tell you where to look for the problem. 17:56 mib_7j1otm I just finished installing Koha 3.08.02 on Ubuntu server 12.04; everything works except SIP2; probelm is that socket opens a TCP6 instead on TCP4; is this a known probelm with this version or there is something wring wih my installation? thanks 17:53 alohabot Hi mib_7j1otm, Welcome to #koha. Feel free to use the '/nick yourname' command to choose a different name. alohabot, wahanui, and huginn are bots. If you need any help, just ask - there's usually someone around to help :) 17:50 rangi theres currently 3 helicopters flying over the house with monsoon buckets 17:48 cait 2-3 days! 17:48 jcamins Yikes! 17:47 cait oh no 17:42 bag damn 17:42 rangi if you pan left the school is there 17:42 rangi thats near the kids school 17:41 oleonard Whoa 17:41 rangi http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/8332389/Massive-Wellington-blaze-threatens-houses 17:41 rangi holy crap 17:36 jenkins_koha Nicole C. Engard: add serial item image 17:36 jenkins_koha Project Koha_Docs build #292: STILL FAILING in 18 sec: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Docs/292/ 17:36 jenkins_koha Starting build #292 for job Koha_Docs (previous build: STILL FAILING -- last SUCCESS #60 9 mo 28 days ago) 17:36 jenkins_koha Nicole C. Engard: add serial item image 17:36 jenkins_koha Project Koha_Docs_3.10.x build #24: STILL FAILING in 18 sec: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Docs_3.10.x/24/ 17:36 jenkins_koha Nicole C. Engard: add serial item image 17:36 jenkins_koha Project Koha_Docs_3.8.x build #24: SUCCESS in 14 sec: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Docs_3.8.x/24/ 17:36 jenkins_koha Starting build #24 for job Koha_Docs_3.10.x (previous build: STILL FAILING) 17:36 jenkins_koha Starting build #24 for job Koha_Docs_3.8.x (previous build: SUCCESS) 17:22 cait probably, but you can't print the list 17:21 cait oh and good hint about the callnumbers 17:21 oleonard From the lists view. Yes, I understand. But if you're adding items to the cart so that you can see the call number isn't the real bug about the list view? 17:21 cait and it's not a bug, only a feature request and I will just try to make a bug in bugzilla tomorrow 17:20 cait oleonard: sorry, I did confuse you - i was talking about the cart - you can't do select all > add to cart 17:20 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6030 critical, P3, ---, stephane.delaune, Signed Off , Allow for html in letters in overdue notices 17:20 jcamins Bug 6030 17:20 oleonard Call numbers show in the staff client list view, but it's done in a nonsensical way 17:19 cait jcamins: is there something that needs to be QAd urgently? 17:19 jcamins Yes? 17:19 cait oh good :) 17:19 * oleonard is still here 17:18 cait oleonard: hope I didn't scare you away? jcamins? 17:16 cait thank you wahanui 17:16 wahanui trains are easy peasy 17:16 cait trains... 17:13 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #1058: STILL UNSTABLE in 1 hr 6 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/1058/ 17:08 cait :) 17:08 cait sorry if I am making no sense... I just talked a lot today 17:07 cait :) 17:07 cait probably not really a bug.... strictly speaking 17:07 cait but on each individual entry there is 17:07 cait yep 17:07 cait that's why I noticed oyu can't bulk add there to the cart 17:07 cait my idea was to just add all the items from the list to the cart, because the callnumber shows there 17:07 cait but the cart thing was on opac 17:07 cait with callnumbers 17:07 cait they wanted to be able to create a list easily 17:07 cait oh,no I think that was staff... actually not sure 17:06 oleonard Oh I see, there isn't an "add to cart" link at the top of a list view you mean? 17:05 oleonard on on -> *are* on 17:05 oleonard Call numbers on on the list view in the OPAC 17:05 cait I can file a bug tomorrow, I still have to make sense of all my notes and what I heard today 17:04 cait opac 17:04 cait also callnumbers on the list view is a big wishlist item 17:04 oleonard cait: OPAC or staff client? 17:04 cait nope, I am not THAT tired that I don't know you :) 17:03 * not_oleonard suspects his ruse hasn't worked 17:03 cait it was very interesting 17:03 * cait is on the train now after spending a day with a school ibrary 17:02 cait heh 17:02 cait in the list view you can add single items to your cart, ut not all! 17:02 cait oleonard: i found a bug 17:02 * cait waves 17:00 jcamins maximep: yeah, seems like a good idea. 17:00 maximep jcamins: that particular instance doesn't. Pretty sure the others do. Strongly recommended that they at least do a cleanup, if they dont want to activate the lost function 16:59 oleonard I guess it's simple enough to do from scratch 16:54 jcamins It's not like that is an unusual thing to want to do. 16:53 jcamins Yeah, and I still think it's absurd that it's not available. 16:51 oleonard jcamins: I mean built-in options to the modal dialog widget to create a full-page blocking overlay to prevent interaction 16:51 jcamins That's absurd! 16:51 jcamins oleonard: how can loading functionality not be available in jqueryui or bootstrap? 16:50 jcamins maximep: you don't ever mark things lost? 16:47 maximep useful 16:46 maximep i didnt even know about blockui 16:40 oleonard Is such functionality not built into jqueryui, bootstrap, or YUI because everyone uses blockUI already? 16:38 * oleonard grumbles 16:38 oleonard How much does everyone love the "loading" overlay on the MARC editor? Lots? 16:30 magnuse ouch! 16:30 maximep fun fun fun 16:30 maximep thousands of call to is_holiday 16:30 maximep yep 16:29 magnuse a lot of days to count... 16:29 maximep turns out calculating fines for stuff due in 1992 takes a long time :p 16:28 maximep *80 minutes 16:28 maximep having fun profiling why it's taking 120 minutes to run the fines cronjob -_- 16:27 maximep nytprof is just amazing 16:26 alohabot Hi mib_hf45az, Welcome to #koha. Feel free to use the '/nick yourname' command to choose a different name. alohabot, wahanui, and huginn are bots. If you need any help, just ask - there's usually someone around to help :) 16:25 oleonard Poor alohabot, has that intro worked ever? 16:18 alohabot Hi mib_8i5jd5, Welcome to #koha. Feel free to use the '/nick yourname' command to choose a different name. alohabot, wahanui, and huginn are bots. If you need any help, just ask - there's usually someone around to help :) 16:11 reiveune bye 16:07 atz hey, automated build stuff... gotta like that! 16:07 jenkins_koha Starting build #1058 for job Koha_master (previous build: UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #1056 2 hr 16 min ago) 16:06 jenkins_koha * Marcel de Rooy: Bug 9662: Followup for acquisition 16:06 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9662 major, P5 - low, ---, dpavlin, Pushed to Master , z3950_search.pl ISSN search field not passed to Z3950Search 16:06 jenkins_koha * Dobrica Pavlinusic: Bug 9662 - ISSN search field not passed to Z3950Search 16:06 jenkins_koha * Jared Camins-Esakov: Bug 5888: Increment version number 16:06 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5888 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, julian.maurice, Pushed to Master , opac-detail subject/author links improvements 16:06 jenkins_koha * Marcel de Rooy: Bug 5888: Followup for preference description 16:06 jenkins_koha * Jonathan Druart: Bug 5888: Add label for each entry in the authors list 16:06 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8913 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Pushed to Master , Improve acquisitions navigation 16:06 jenkins_koha * Jonathan Druart: Bug 5888: Followup add a syspref (OPACPopupAuthorsSearch) 16:06 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8347 enhancement, P1 - high, ---, vfernandes, Pushed to Master , Koha forces UNIMARC 100 field code language to 'fre' 16:06 jenkins_koha * Julian Maurice: Bug 5888: Fix building of query in authors links 16:06 jenkins_koha * Julian Maurice: Bug 5888: opac-detail subject/author links improvements 16:06 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9145 major, P1 - high, ---, vfernandes, Pushed to Master , Authorities: standard language for UNIMARC 16:06 jenkins_koha * Owen Leonard: Bug 8913 [Revised] Improve acquisitions navigation 16:06 jenkins_koha * Jared Camins-Esakov: Bug 8347: Increment version number 16:06 jenkins_koha * Vitor FERNANDES: Bug 8347 - Koha forces UNIMARC 100 field code language to 'fre' 16:06 jenkins_koha * Vitor FERNANDES: Bug 8347 - Koha forces UNIMARC 100 field code language to 'fre' 16:06 jenkins_koha * Vitor FERNANDES: Bug 8347 - Koha forces UNIMARC 100 field code language to 'fre' 16:06 jenkins_koha * Jared Camins-Esakov: Bug 9145: Increment version number 16:06 jenkins_koha * Vitor FERNANDES: BUG 9145: Authorities: standard language for UNIMARC 16:06 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #1057: UNSTABLE in 1 hr 6 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/1057/ 16:01 atz i've gotten used to the pretty github interface for almost everything... 15:46 atz ok, thx 15:45 jcamins atz: the github repo mirrors git.k-c.org. 15:45 atz what is the status of github vs. git.koha-community.org ? is one a mirror of the other or is there crossflow? 15:44 * oleonard waves to the lurkers 15:44 oleonard We've got more an more lurkers these days too 15:44 atz :) 15:44 atz nice to see a lot of the old-timers are still around 15:43 atz indeed, it has been 15:43 oleonard Hi atz, long time no see 15:43 tcohen i need to reuse some code for that bug, and will end up writing some methods 15:42 atz the impediment to rewiring (unkludging) reports is that you will inevitably break something for somebody who already has reports 15:42 tcohen thx 15:41 jcamins Nope. 15:41 tcohen is anyone working on refactoring/rewriting reports already? 15:06 magnuse dbic++ 15:01 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Merge branch 'bug_9662' into 3.12-master <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=0b3b23e46f002456ac637241f48dbacdf6a29892> / Bug 9662: Followup for acquisition <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=220fb3f6574f2ff8fb37bfb92cf47c6d0b15064d> / Bug 9662 - ISSN search field not passed to Z3950Search <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=8abe29b2530de 15:00 jenkins_koha Starting build #1057 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS) 14:58 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9615 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Combine staff home page images into single sprite 14:58 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9625 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Replace YUI buttons and menus on reports pages with Bootstrap 14:58 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9650 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Show message if there are no notices 14:58 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9455 trivial, P5 - low, ---, colin.campbell, Pushed to Master , Embedded mysql quotes in sql string 14:58 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9658 trivial, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Pushed to Master , Breadcrumb wrong on reports dictionary 14:58 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9655 trivial, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Capitalization wrong on 'Close and Print' button in basket groups 14:58 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9582 minor, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Pushed to Master , Unused code in members/pay.pl 14:58 jenkins_koha * Owen Leonard: Bug 9615 - Combine staff home page images into single sprite 14:58 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8079 normal, P5 - low, ---, kyle.m.hall, Pushed to Master , opac not showing fines - says 'no' 14:58 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9651 minor, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , When deleting a fund, button is wrongly labelled with 'Delete this budget' 14:58 jenkins_koha * Owen Leonard: Bug 9625 - Replace YUI buttons and menus on reports pages with Bootstrap 14:58 jenkins_koha * Owen Leonard: Bug 9650 - Show message if there are no notices 14:58 jenkins_koha * Colin Campbell: Bug 9455: Remove unnecessary quoting from sql 14:58 jenkins_koha * Jared Camins-Esakov: Bug 9658: Incorrect breadcrumb on report dictionary 14:58 jenkins_koha * Bernardo Gonzalez Kriegel: Bug 9655 - Capitalization wrong on 'Close and Print' button in basket groups 14:58 jenkins_koha * Jared Camins-Esakov: Bug 9582: Remove unused code from members/pay.pl 14:58 jenkins_koha * Kyle M Hall: Bug 8079 - opac not showing fines - says 'no' 14:58 jenkins_koha * Bernardo Gonzalez Kriegel: Bug 9651 - When deleting a fund, button is wrongly labelled with 'Delete this budget' 14:58 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #1056: SUCCESS in 1 hr 7 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/1056/ 14:36 vfernandes records and authorities fileld 100 should now work fine for UNIMARC :) 14:35 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9145 major, P1 - high, ---, vfernandes, Pushed to Master , Authorities: standard language for UNIMARC 14:35 vfernandes bug 9145 too... 14:35 vfernandes nice :) 14:34 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8347 enhancement, P1 - high, ---, vfernandes, Pushed to Master , Koha forces UNIMARC 100 field code language to 'fre' 14:34 gerundio vfernandes, just got the good news, patch for bug 8347 has been pushed to master :) 14:32 oleonard tcohen: Yes 14:31 alohabot Hi mib_xe8uly, Welcome to #koha. Feel free to use the '/nick yourname' command to choose a different name. alohabot, wahanui, and huginn are bots. If you need any help, just ask - there's usually someone around to help :) 14:30 tcohen a "Save anyway?" dialog? 14:28 oleonard I think we have to default to trusting them rather than defaulting to making them mad. 14:28 oleonard In one case we trust that they will do something we're not requiring they do. In the other case we force them to abandon something they may have worked on. 14:27 oleonard It is a difficult workflow problem. Should we allow the user to save a report with a non-existent authorized value on the assumption that they will create one later? Or should we force them to leave reports creation and create their authorized value first? 14:27 tcohen ok 14:27 jcamins I mostly only have opinions on A) things my clients use, B) things that are very central to the system, and C) things that I use. 14:26 tcohen :-P 14:26 jcamins Up to you. 14:25 tcohen should we also warn the user on saving about non-existent auth values? 14:24 jcamins I am sure you can figure out the best way to do it. :) 14:24 tcohen talking wiht oleonard about it, some doubts arised thou 14:22 jcamins Excellent! 14:22 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9659 minor, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Needs Signoff , Undefined authorised value category yields empty dropdown menu on SQL reports 14:22 tcohen no, i meant bug 9659 14:21 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9634 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Allow for parameters re-use on SQL reports 14:21 tcohen jcamins: i attached the patch for bug 9634 i was working yesterday 14:20 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Merge branch 'bug_8347' into 3.12-master <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=0bb9d984d4f49a58f2cf1b63b445c08da3a60431> / Bug 8347: Increment version number <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=91d91583bd19fe2fb19057d2630cbfac7bc9739f> / Bug 8347 - Koha forces UNIMARC 100 field code language to 'fre' <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=93ba 14:18 jcamins Now that you mention it, the only place the tabs look right is on the patron pages. 14:18 jcamins Good point. 14:18 oleonard Your screenshot looks consistent with the way things look elsewhere: http://screencast.com/t/nnnLOUmEHi 14:16 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8913 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Passed QA , Improve acquisitions navigation 14:16 jcamins Oh, who signed off on bug 8913? 14:13 jcamins oleonard: http://screencast.com/t/N9IsnB0t <-- the tabs are higher than the part of the page with the vendor's information 13:51 jenkins_koha Starting build #1056 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS) 13:50 jcamins Heh. 13:49 oleonard Configuring one's editor to garishly highlight trailing spaces makes editing Koha code a colorful operation. 13:48 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Merge branch 'bug_9615' into 3.12-master <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=0f748d7e42855c30a878449f3de13888580000ea> / Bug 9615 - Combine staff home page images into single sprite <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=0cdef9334d6b9e5bbcd89fd621338f74145635f3> / Merge branch 'bug_9625' into 3.12-master <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=9 13:36 tweetbot` [off] twitter: @nengard: "@aestivus Want to share your link? Also the hashtag is #kohails since #koha is used by so many other groups :)" 13:33 jcamins ... so much for easily tested patches. 13:32 jcamins I like all these easily-tested patches. 13:26 oleonard (hard to test, that is, if you want to be thorough) 13:26 jcamins Heh. 13:25 oleonard I shouldn't have put it in the hard one :) 13:25 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9617 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Needs Signoff , Replace YUI menu on catalog pages with Bootstrap 13:25 oleonard Bug 9617 13:24 jcamins Excellent! 13:24 oleonard I incorporated a fix into one of the patches I submitted yesterday 13:24 jcamins So, yes, and I'm a bit late to the game on this one. 13:24 jcamins Ah. 13:23 oleonard jcamins: 9420 introduced a padding problem with the <body> tag when the language bar is present 13:23 jcamins oleonard: when you view the basket group page, does the button at the bottom get cut off by the language selector bar? 13:15 jcamins finesmode. 13:14 jcamins Oh! 13:14 jcamins On my development server I get a nice CSV file listing all the fines, and no database changes. 13:13 jcamins I was more thinking "update the database with fines." 13:13 oleonard Fill you with a sense of vengeful power? 13:12 jcamins Isn't running misc/cronjobs/fines.pl supposed to do something? 13:11 oleonard Hi #koha 13:06 jenkins_koha Nicole C. Engard: capitalize Z in Z39.50 where relevant 13:06 jenkins_koha Project Koha_Docs build #291: STILL FAILING in 18 sec: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Docs/291/ 13:06 jenkins_koha Nicole C. Engard: capitalize Z in Z39.50 where relevant 13:06 jenkins_koha Project Koha_Docs_3.10.x build #23: STILL FAILING in 27 sec: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Docs_3.10.x/23/ 13:06 jenkins_koha Starting build #291 for job Koha_Docs (previous build: STILL FAILING -- last SUCCESS #60 9 mo 28 days ago) 13:06 jenkins_koha Nicole C. Engard: capitalize Z in Z39.50 where relevant 13:06 jenkins_koha Project Koha_Docs_3.8.x build #23: SUCCESS in 13 sec: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Docs_3.8.x/23/ 13:06 jenkins_koha Starting build #23 for job Koha_Docs_3.10.x (previous build: STILL FAILING) 13:06 jenkins_koha Starting build #23 for job Koha_Docs_3.8.x (previous build: SUCCESS) 13:04 tweetbot` [off] twitter: @mjray: "good to see #kohails #kohacon13 planning continuing at http://t.co/l1X9aZFQ" 12:47 moha hi liw: how do i check that? 12:37 liw is koha using the right database? 12:34 slef moh: then I do not understand why koha cannot see those tables. Look for more log messages. 12:32 moh slef: yes, i am using that user 12:30 slef moha: are you connecting to mysql as the user shown in your koha-conf.xml? 12:29 moha I have checked that the the table exists 12:28 moha The installation says 'Success' on the browser but on the logs: DBD::mysql::st execute failed: Table 'koha_csc.language_descriptions' doesn't exist at /usr/share/koha/lib/C4/Languages.pm line 354. 12:26 moh i need help on koha, please 12:19 moh slef: yes i have that table 12:04 slef moh: can you see koha_csc.systempreferences in mysql?? 12:03 moh koha_csc.systempreferences' doesn't exist at /usr/share/koha/lib/C4/Context.pm 12:03 moh now i have error messages on both opac and intranet logs 12:03 huginn slef: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6416 normal, P5 - low, ---, robin, NEW , koha-remove fails when dropping user 12:03 huginn slef: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=4880 normal, P5 - low, ---, robin, NEW , koha-remove sometimes fails because user is logged int 12:03 huginn slef: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=4875 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, robin, NEW , koha-remove, koha-restore should have options similar to --request-db 12:03 huginn slef: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8500 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , koha-remove needs a --force switch 12:03 slef @query koha-remove 12:03 slef query koha-remove 12:02 moh hello mtj 11:24 slef approved 1 comment from oleonard 10:56 moha i meant to say oldstable 10:54 moha okay, i had installed what i found on the repository. i will try 3.10 10:54 mtj ^^ 10:53 mtj http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Debian 10:53 mtj Current Stable Version is 3.10.2 10:52 mtj deb http://debian.koha-community.org/koha squeeze main 10:52 wahanui Current Stable Version is, like, 3.4.2 10:52 mtj To get the old stable 3.10 release, add this to a /etc/apt/sources.list.d/koha.list file: 10:52 mtj Current Stable Version 10:52 mtj cool, try the 3.10 package too :) 10:51 moha thanks for the help 10:51 moha i will let you know 10:51 moha hi mtj, i am doing a reinstall 10:48 mtj ok, and now i have to go… :/ 10:48 mtj (the debian packages work for ubuntu, i think?) 10:47 mtj .. and see if that fixes your weird bug 10:46 mtj http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Debian 10:46 mtj moha, you could alos try using a koha 3.10 package, instead 10:42 moh no errors in firebag 10:41 mtj fyi, try reading back the #irc log - in case you missed some info -> http://irc.koha-community.org/irclog/koha/2013-02-20 10:39 mtj (i am from new zealand) 10:39 mtj curious, where in the world are you from? 10:37 mtj 2/ watch (tail -f ) your apache/koha log file , for errors when hitting that 'patrons' webpage 10:36 mtj (backup 1st , of course) 10:36 mtj 1/ drop/create a new koha db, and do a quick test re-install of a db, with all optional data 10:35 mtj my 2 other suggestions are…. 10:34 mtj i use firebug's console in firefox, for errors 10:33 mo firefox, ubuntu 10:33 mtj depends on yr browser and os 10:32 mtj hmm, something a little more topical wahanui 10:32 mo how can i check for errors? 10:32 wahanui mtj: Root nameservers are out of sync 10:32 mtj excuse? 10:32 mtj cant find yui-button-blah file, etc... 10:32 mtj any errors in your browser's console? 10:32 mtj tried using firefox and/or chrome? 10:32 mohah firefox 10:32 mtj whats your web-browser? 10:32 mohah package 10:32 mtj package or tarball install? 10:32 mtj ok, thats um, a pretty weird bug :/ 10:32 moha no, i created a new instance and there has not been new patron button from the beginning 10:27 mtj … or has it never been there? 10:27 mtj so, did you ever have a 'new patrons' button? ie: has it recently disappered? 10:24 mtj hmm, ok thats good :/ 10:23 moh i have 13 rows 10:22 moh checked using mysql client 10:20 mtj mohah ^^ 10:20 pastebot "mtj" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "select categorycode, description from categories;" (17 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/394 10:19 mtj well.. do you have any rows in your 'categories' table ? 10:18 mohah how can i make it work? 10:18 mtj ok… you are probably missing rows in your 'categories' table 10:17 moh yes 10:16 mtj but no button for 'new patron' yes? 10:16 moh yes 10:16 mtj and you click on 'patrons' from the top menu? 10:15 mtj ok 10:15 mtj you are logging into koha with the koha database user, yes? 10:14 mtj http://irc.koha-community.org/irclog/koha/2013-02-20#i_1189355 10:13 moha from the file /etc/koha/sites/sitename/koha-conf.xml 10:13 moha i am using the database user. created after koha-create --create-db 10:13 mtj mohah, did you get my advice before? ^^ 10:11 mtj … can u add a new user then? 10:10 mtj try logging in as the koha database/superuser 10:10 mtj does your user have enough permissions to create a new user? 10:09 mtj the first thing i do is watch the koha error log, for errors.. 10:09 mohah i don't have the new patron tab 10:09 mohah I installed koha 3.8, created a new library, set it to default, created a new patron category but i can not add new patrons 10:08 mtj whats your problem moha? 10:08 mohah anyway, i would appreciate your help very much, i have been trying since yesterday and still no success 10:07 mtj pass, sometimes the interwebs get bouncy :) 10:07 mohah oh, why does it keep signing me out? 10:04 moha moh is now moha 10:03 vfernandes hi :) 10:03 moh Hello guys, i need help 09:03 tweetbot` [off] twitter: @kohails: "#kohails How to update the Library of Congress Z.3950 Target http://t.co/fiBUK0o6" 08:50 magnuse hiya francharb 08:44 francharb hello #koha 08:39 cait1 bye all 08:39 * cait1 gets off the train :) 08:38 * dcook trundles off to do dishes 08:28 wahanui niihau, gaetan_B 08:28 gaetan_B hello 08:04 christophe_c hi cait ;-) 08:04 cait hi christophe_c :) 08:04 christophe_c hello wahanui 08:03 wahanui hello, christophe_c 08:03 christophe_c hello 07:43 rangi hi reiveune 07:43 cait evenng rangi 07:43 reiveune salut cait magnuse rangi :) 07:42 rangi yeah its totally not just the packages affected by that 07:42 cait bonjour alex_a and reiveune 07:41 wahanui hi, reiveune 07:41 reiveune hello 07:41 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9256 critical, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Search is broken for 3.10 package-installs when marcflavour != marc21 07:41 * magnuse hopes to do something about bug 9256 for 3.10.4 at least... 07:33 magnuse i need to figure out if i will be able to make it or not... 07:32 alex_a bonjour 07:32 cait :) 07:32 cait you mean you will? 07:31 * magnuse would like to 07:28 rangi gonna do a talk? :) 07:28 rangi https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/viewform?formkey=dHVKNGpPdUJIaGtXR2hJQ2U4S3hXX2c6MA 07:27 magnuse kia ora rangi 07:27 rangi evening 07:24 cait yep 07:23 magnuse hurtling through the german countryside? 07:23 magnuse hiya cait 07:23 cait morning magnuse :) 07:20 * magnuse waves 06:16 cait yep:) 06:02 dcook On the train? ;) 06:02 * dcook waves back 05:58 * cait waves 04:51 cait bbl #koha 04:47 Irma yesan Creating good reports in Koha is well worth the time and effort. I always advise our clients to think clearly on what they wish to report on, in which order the information should be displayed, who the readers of the reports are etc. 04:45 yesan thank you 04:44 yesan fine. 04:43 Irma yesan look for what you need here and adapt as needed to your circumstances in your "build new" http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/SQL_Reports_Library 04:43 yesan we are not client of PTFS 04:43 yesan we 04:42 yesan ok 04:42 Irma yesan OK? 04:42 Irma that is Koha 04:42 Irma yesan if not, them only go to koha-community.org 04:41 Irma yesan are you a client of PTFS? 04:41 yesan hello cait 04:40 Irma yesan the koha reference is not koha-community.org 04:40 Irma cait time 04:40 Irma hi cait :-) Long timer no speak 04:40 yesan you mean in koha.org 04:39 cait hi Irma :) 04:39 Irma see some of the reports are now in Koha 04:39 yesan k 04:39 Irma this page is not exactly up to date 04:39 Irma that's the one 04:39 yesan http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/SQL_Reports_Library 04:38 yesan k 04:38 Irma let me fetch a link 04:37 yesan do you have any suggestions to modify sql script 04:37 yesan like borrower added list of titles in a given date range. 04:37 yesan if i want to generate a report on cataloging statistics. 04:37 Irma Koha 3.8 ...good! 04:37 yesan i am trying to get some reports set 04:36 Irma :-) 04:36 yesan i have installed koha 3.8 04:36 yesan good doing fine 04:36 Irma how are you doing? 04:36 Irma hi yesan 04:35 yesan hello irma 04:34 yesan i would like to generate a report on no.of catalogue records added by a staff in a given date range. can someone suggest. 04:33 yesan hello friends 04:29 huginn cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 0.1°C (5:20 AM CET on February 20, 2013). Conditions: Light Snow. Humidity: 95%. Dew Point: -1.0°C. Windchill: 0.0°C. Pressure: 30.01 in 1016 hPa (Rising). 04:29 cait @wunder Konstanz 04:29 huginn cait: Error: No such location could be found. 04:29 cait @wunder stuttgart 04:24 cait morning #koha 02:39 mtj we talked about it pre-xmas, so im following up my promise :o) 02:38 rangi ahh cool 02:38 mtj heya chris, no biggie - i was gonna ping him about me building the next bunch of koha packages 02:17 rangi hes off sick 02:12 mtj eythian, abouty?