Time Nick Message 23:59 jcamins eythian: why did we decide to just delete the solr configuration files rather than installing them? 23:53 jcamins The Debian maintainer's guide may have all the information a person needs to deal with a package, but it sure doesn't troubleshooting easy. 23:44 jcamins No, I can't figure it out. 23:34 gaetan_B good night #koha 23:30 jcamins Yes. 23:30 dcook That's what my conversion said as well, but I wanted to make sure. Thanks, cjh! 23:29 cjh (unless my time conversion was off) 23:29 cjh dcook: yes :) 23:28 dcook Mmm, I forgot about the meeting. That's in 2.5 hours? 23:23 drojf g'night 23:23 drojf dcook: it actually works with a cookie exception for http://www.unlok.ca. that makes even less sense since localstorage is no cookies, but ok ;) 23:21 drojf anyway, i'll go to bed. have a nice meeting everyone 23:21 drojf it does not want to set a cookie. i dont think i can do anything about localstorage, besides disable it in about:config 23:19 dcook Mmm, I thought that was the situation. No way to add any exceptions in FF? 23:19 drojf dcook: i'd like to keep my setting tobe asked about cookies if enabled. i can play the game if i turn that off 23:18 dcook Still having problems, drojf? 23:17 drojf wow that is annoying. and weird. i have used localstorage with that setting and did not have any problems 23:12 jcamins I will keep you updated. 23:12 drojf dcook: it was indeed that very problem 23:12 wahanui debian/rules is failing. It's not a test. That's the actual build process. 23:12 jcamins debian/rules 23:10 jcamins Oh, I think I might know what the problem is. 23:08 jcamins Hehe. 23:08 dcook Hmm, by comparison, 9000-some bugs doesn't seem so bad... 23:08 huginn 04Bug 781447: was not found. 23:08 dcook Is this useful? https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=781447 23:06 drojf i get the same error in iceweasel 23:05 dcook Always a bit worrisome when something doesn't work in a specific browser though :/ 23:04 drojf i'll try iceweasel 10 or what debian ships with 23:03 drojf i tried ff nightly and 20 23:03 dcook Took longer to load though 23:03 dcook drojf: I used Chrome, but I just tried with Firefox 14.0.1 and it worked fine 23:03 drojf dcook: what browser did you try? 23:02 drojf [23:59:16.869] SecurityError: The operation is insecure. @ http://www.unlok.ca/wayward/js/game.js?v=1:20 23:02 drojf dcook: no. i use requestpolicy, but all was ok. it's a security error in the code that firefox does not like 23:01 dcook Do you use Ghostery, drojf? 22:55 * jcamins waits for this build to fail spectacularly. 22:55 jcamins Okay. 22:55 eythian also, you don't need the etc/koha after the ...koha/searchengine line 22:54 drojf dcook: it just loads for me, even in safe mode 22:54 jcamins That makes sense. :) 22:54 jcamins Ohhh. 22:54 eythian it's just to define directories that are OK to be empty I think. 22:54 jcamins We'll try that. 22:54 jcamins Okay. 22:54 eythian I don't think you need the one in .dirs if you're going to be putting files there anyway 22:53 jcamins Maybe because I still have the line in koha-common.dirs? 22:53 jcamins All of them. 22:53 jcamins Yup. 22:53 pastebot "jcamins" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "like this" (20 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/385 22:52 eythian like, everything under /etc/koha? 22:52 eythian also, all of them? 22:52 eythian jcamins: how did you do that? 22:52 drojf i think my browser is too secure for this web. the mozilla marketplace did not work because of the adblock popup blocker btw. i did not know that thing is still on when you deactivate adblock :/ 22:51 jcamins All the configuration files have ".dpkg-new" appended to them. 22:51 rangi hmm im hitting return a lot by accident today 22:51 rangi :) 22:51 rangi drojf: 22:50 jcamins eythian: help! I just broke the packages. 22:50 drojf rangi: i've been playing a little with canvas. not sure yet if that is going to be the next ingress or a koha map feature or nothing :D 22:50 dcook Works just fine over here, rangi, drojf. I'll have to play later... 22:48 drojf rangi: does not work for me 22:47 rangi doh 22:47 wizzyrea :D 22:47 rangi for anyone who didnt know 22:47 rangi thats committer 201 22:46 dcook Cheers 22:46 wizzyrea later :) 22:46 rangi datadoctor: it does look good! 22:46 jcamins Bye. 22:46 datadoctor Sorry to cross-talk. I'm heading out the door. Good luck with your work jcamins, dcook, rangi, wizzyrea and gaetan_B ! 22:45 dcook Looks great, datadoctor 22:45 rangi drojf: http://www.unlok.ca/wayward/ <-- totally html5 22:45 dcook hehe 22:45 rangi heh 22:45 drojf lol 22:45 jcamins lol 22:45 wizzyrea "oh, you're using koha BLOOD RED. That one's broken." 22:44 rangi :) 22:44 jcamins rangi: smart! 22:44 rangi colours maybe 22:44 rangi i think we should change it slightly each major version 22:44 wizzyrea pretty :) 22:43 datadoctor And page 2: http://screencast.com/t/hen2Truadx 22:41 jcamins datadoctor: nice! 22:41 datadoctor http://screencast.com/t/nEQvURjSYLu8 22:41 jcamins Well, one institution. 22:40 jcamins I only know of one person who disliked it. 22:40 dcook I think everyone I encounter who has upgraded has celebrated it! 22:39 dcook I was so happy to switch to that new page :D 22:39 dcook gaetan_B++ 22:38 rangi yep 22:38 dcook New start page as in the new intranet one? 22:37 jcamins Okay... I'm making progress, but why is the file called .dpkg-new? 22:37 gaetan_B :) 22:37 * wizzyrea appreciates gaetan_B's work every time she logs into koha now. 22:37 wizzyrea hi gaetan :) 22:36 gaetan_B hi dcook :) 22:36 wahanui gaetan_B is working at Biblibre and did the nice new start page together with asaurat or a fan of icons 22:36 dcook hey gaetan_B 22:35 datadoctor With Koha. I'll try to post a screen shot. 22:35 wizzyrea cool, with koha or a special machine? 22:34 datadoctor We started patron self-checkout today. It's a big hit! 22:33 jcamins Then I fixed it and had a backlog of stuff to deal with a mile wide. 22:33 jcamins Yeah, I liked it! 22:33 datadoctor very productive! 22:33 datadoctor That's funny! Seems quiet when no one is sending you messages. 22:33 jcamins So I got five good hours of work in before I noticed and got the problem resolved. 22:32 jcamins My e-mail was down and I didn't notice. 22:32 jcamins datadoctor: actually, my morning was great. 22:32 datadoctor I'm about ready to call it quits. 22:32 datadoctor How's your day going jcamins? 22:31 jcamins Apologies for the spelling. 22:31 jcamins My gpg-agent appears to have committed sepuku. 22:31 datadoctor Probably most folks won't encounter that. We always get weird stuff because we were early adopters. 22:31 dcook Morning/evening #koha 22:30 jcamins Oh, darn. 22:30 datadoctor Wow - that must be some legacy data. 22:30 jcamins I'm not sure how the value "no" could have gotten in there. 22:29 jcamins Yeah, I'm just reading that. 22:29 datadoctor I 22:29 huginn 04Bug 9562: major, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , System preference 'insecure' shows wrong value after update to v3.10 22:29 datadoctor http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9562 22:29 datadoctor just stumbled upon a weird bug after updating from v3.5 to v3.10 related to the insecure system preference 21:53 cjh magnuse: thanks for the reminder :) 21:45 * magnuse wishes #koha a good meeting and wanders off to bed 21:37 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9509 normal, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Pushed to Stable , batchMod.pl does not ensure each barcode is unique 21:37 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9201 normal, P5 - low, ---, mirko, Pushed to Stable , OAI-PMH mapping value cannot be 0 21:37 jenkins_koha * kyle: Bug 9509 - batchMod.pl does not ensure each barcode is unique 21:37 jenkins_koha * mirko: Bug 9201 OAI-PMH mapping value cannot be 0 21:37 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.10.x build #60: SUCCESS in 40 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.10.x/60/ 21:37 * cait is not so sure about herself :) 21:36 wizzyrea hehe 21:34 cait you got more than enough left 21:34 cait :) 21:33 cait it will be fine 21:33 * wizzyrea worries she killed that brain cell 21:32 * wizzyrea desperately tries to remember what it was she was working on two days ago 21:31 cait heh 21:26 drojf you know you are doing weird things when every search result you get is from stackoverflow 20:56 jenkins_koha Starting build #60 for job Koha_3.10.x (previous build: SUCCESS) 20:56 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9509 normal, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Pushed to Stable , batchMod.pl does not ensure each barcode is unique 20:56 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9201 normal, P5 - low, ---, mirko, Pushed to Stable , OAI-PMH mapping value cannot be 0 20:56 jenkins_koha * kyle: Bug 9509 - batchMod.pl does not ensure each barcode is unique 20:56 jenkins_koha * mirko: Bug 9201 OAI-PMH mapping value cannot be 0 20:56 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.8.x build #267: SUCCESS in 37 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.8.x/267/ 20:53 * jcamins will have to think about it a bit. 20:52 jcamins Okay... this doesn't quite work. 20:51 jcamins chris_n: ditto, actually. 20:50 * chris_n successfully concludes a multi-hour bad syntax hunt by adding a missing hyphen... :-P 20:50 * cait crosses fingers 20:44 jcamins Let's try this again. 20:43 jcamins I'm just building a package from the master branch over and over and over and... 20:43 jcamins Wait... 20:41 eythian yeah, that won't help any :) 20:41 eythian jcamins: oh, actually, koha-common.install 20:41 jcamins eythian: except that I broke it and now it's not installed by the tarball either. 20:41 eythian jcamins: koha-common.dirs should sort it out for you 20:40 jcamins What happened to it? 20:40 cait maybe even give it 2 meetings? 20:40 jcamins Okay, now I have a problem... queryparser.yaml isn't getting installed by the tarball either. 20:40 cait maybe I can't remember being it slow at all *scratches her head* 20:40 jcamins We'd need to have had proposals that were publicly discussed. 20:40 cait can't remember it being slow... in a loooong looong time 20:40 bag or sometimes soo soo slow :P 20:40 jcamins bag: yeah, definitely no vote this meeting. 20:40 eythian hi 20:40 cait time runs so fast 20:40 bag maybe discuss and then vote next meeting? 20:39 cait oh right 20:39 jcamins cait: not really. We're half-way through the cycle already. 20:39 cait for the roles 20:39 cait wow early 20:38 rambutan yep 20:38 jcamins 8pm your time, maybe? 20:38 jcamins rambutan: 9pm EST. 20:38 rambutan well, ok then 20:38 jcamins lol 20:37 wahanui well, meeting is at 6, so I need to leave in about two and a half hours. 20:37 rambutan huggin: meeting? 20:37 jcamins :) 20:37 jcamins Well, as long as someone did. 20:37 jcamins Oh, you did. 20:37 rangi that was me 20:36 jcamins I think he has done so. 20:36 jcamins I wouldn't have remembered except bag asked me about adding "Roles for 3.14" to the agenda. 20:35 drojf and i tend to forget those at that uneuropean time 20:34 drojf i only remind for meetings i remember :) 20:32 cait or too early.... depends 20:32 jcamins Too late for you. 20:32 jcamins 5.5. 20:32 jcamins Many. 20:32 cait in how many hours? 20:28 jcamins drojf: good news, someone else took care of it. 20:26 rangi yep 20:26 jcamins drojf: oh official meeting reminder-er! Apparently we have a meeting tonight? 20:21 jcamins Wait... I see. In my attempts to find koha-common.dirs I broke something else. 20:19 jenkins_koha Starting build #267 for job Koha_3.8.x (previous build: SUCCESS) 20:19 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9503 major, P5 - low, ---, colin.campbell, Pushed to Stable , Link from histsearch via invoicenumber results in error 20:19 jenkins_koha * jonathan.druart: Bug 9503: Followup remove unused parameters passed to parcel.pl 20:19 jenkins_koha * colin.campbell: Bug 9503 Correct name of parameter passed to parcel.pl 20:19 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.10.x build #59: SUCCESS in 43 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.10.x/59/ 20:17 jcamins Not quite random. 20:17 chris_n random changes? ouch! 20:16 * jcamins will wait and stop making random changes. 20:16 jcamins Yay! 20:16 rangi yep 20:13 jcamins rangi: will he be in today? 20:13 jcamins Actually, I got the tarball all fixed up. 20:13 jcamins cait: yeah. 20:12 cait fighting with my qa comments? 20:12 rangi eythian will know when he is about 20:12 jcamins Definitely something in addition to koha-common.dirs, but I can't figure out what to put in rules. 19:58 rangi maybe rules too 19:58 jcamins Cool, thanks. 19:57 rangi cos its not a new file, its a whole new dir 19:57 rangi koha-common.dirs i think 19:57 jcamins I created etc/searchengine/queryparser.yaml, and the build is exploding. 19:56 jcamins rangi: any idea how to add a file to the packages? 19:53 kohdog sweet, thanks 19:52 cait this time I was faster :) 19:51 jcamins kohdog: if you go to Adminstration->Item types, you should change the fee on each item type to 0. 19:51 cait kohdog: check administration > itemtypes 19:51 kohdog Hello, I am looking for help with a simple setting that causes patrons to incur a $5 charge upon each checkout--koha 3.8 on ubuntu 12.04 19:46 * jcamins gives it another go. 19:42 rangi *nod* 19:42 jcamins You end up with a bunch of tests failing because they're unit tests for files that don't exist. 19:42 rangi git clean -d -f 19:42 rangi ah yeah 19:41 jcamins Right. This is why you don't build packages from a repo with non-git-controlled detritus. 19:41 drojf that may be a good thing 19:40 rangi i dont think i got a mail 19:39 drojf or maybe that is just for berlin 19:39 rangi ahhh 19:38 drojf the one saying dev phones in march :D 19:38 tweetbot` [off] twitter: @normnz: "Today I want to think about integration between #kohails and @figshare @paul_poulain" 19:38 rangi the later you left? 19:38 jcamins Huh? 19:38 rangi hmm? 19:38 drojf don't read the mozilla mail 19:37 drojf morning rangi 19:37 rangi morning 19:36 jcamins Morning, rangi. 19:36 jenkins_koha Starting build #59 for job Koha_3.10.x (previous build: SUCCESS) 19:30 jcamins Okay, this is a weird one. 19:29 devap :-( 19:29 devap nope -- still 0 hits... 19:26 devap lemme restart again... 19:26 jcamins Odd. That looks right. 19:25 pastebot "devap" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "search results" (168 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/384 19:25 devap jcamins: Here's the output from the rebuild_zebra: 19:24 drojf yay 19:23 jcamins This is good, because it explains why I haven't been able to build a package in my regular repo. 19:23 drojf [off] sir, i received a message telling me exactly what i have to do to get rid of the message. what do i have to do? 19:23 jcamins I found a bug in my release-tool script. 19:22 tweetbot` [off] twitter: @andisugandi: "Sip! :) RT @kohails: #kohails 「Did you mean?〠in Koha 3.10 http://t.co/JMhZpoFK" 19:22 tweetbot` [off] twitter: @ByWaterSolution: "“Did you mean?†in Koha 3.10 http://t.co/3g1KeI56 #kohails" 19:13 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9421 major, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Pushed to Master , tools/picture-upload.pl not Plack-compatible 19:13 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9432 major, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Pushed to Master , acqui/addorderiso2409.pl is not Plack-friendly 19:13 jenkins_koha * Jared Camins-Esakov: Bug 9421: tools/picture-upload.pl not Plack-compatible 19:13 jenkins_koha * Jared Camins-Esakov: Bug 9432: Plack changes for acqui/addorderiso2409.pl 19:13 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #1037: SUCCESS in 1 hr 7 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/1037/ 19:11 jcamins That's possible. 19:10 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9451 normal, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Needs Signoff , borrower_stats.pl gives off warnings and is not Plack-compatible 19:10 drojf jcamins: could bug 9451 only show up with starman? i think we had something like that before (and i should probably try to use starman some day) 19:06 tweetbot` [off] twitter: @kohails: "#kohails “Did you mean?†in Koha 3.10 http://t.co/amN6B8kT" 18:51 jcamins (to paste.koha-community.org) 18:51 jcamins Could you paste that in? 18:51 devap one sec... 18:50 devap wait -- yes I did 18:50 devap no 18:50 jcamins Did you get any output from the koha-rebuild-zebra command? 18:49 jcamins Hrm. 18:48 devap 17 hits 18:48 devap (above) 18:48 devap on old system I get: 18:48 pastebot "devap" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "search results" (8 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/383 18:47 pastebot "devap" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "search results" (8 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/382 18:43 devap sorry -- I'm a koha-less sysadmin... 18:43 jcamins I'd do both to be on the safe side. 18:43 devap or restart koha-common ? 18:42 devap do I need to restart/reconnect the yaz-client? 18:42 devap done 18:33 jcamins `sudo koha-rebuild-zebra -f -v -v ochs` 18:32 jcamins Okay, it's a Zebra-side issue. 18:32 pastebot "devap" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "search results" (8 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/381 18:31 devap will use paste -- sorry :-( 18:31 jcamins Then "f smith" (or replace "smith" with a term that will have results) 18:30 jcamins Now try "base biblios" 18:30 devap Z> 18:30 devap Elapsed: 0.004546 18:30 jcamins You can use paste.koha-community.org. 18:30 devap Options: search present delSet triggerResourceCtrl scan sort extendedServices namedResultSets 18:30 devap Version: 2.0.54/4.2.50 1d3113509304fb324a0a48a1731a4d88e14fb2d2 18:30 devap Name : Zebra Information Server/GFS/YAZ 18:30 devap ID : 81 18:30 devap Connection accepted by v3 target. 18:30 devap Sent initrequest. 18:30 devap Connecting...OK. 18:30 devap ochs-koha@www1:/etc/koha/sites/ochs$ yaz-client -c /etc/koha/zebradb/ccl.properties unix:/var/run/koha/ochs/bibliosocket 18:28 devap socket, not port - got it. 18:28 devap ah 18:28 devap 1009 316 315 0 13:22 ? 00:00:00 zebrasrv -v none,fatal,warn -f /etc/koha/sites/ochs/koha-conf.xml 18:28 devap 1009 315 1 0 13:22 ? 00:00:00 daemon --name=ochs-koha-zebra --errlog=/var/log/koha/ochs/zebra-error.log --stdout=/var/log/koha/ochs/zebra.log --output=/var/log/koha/ochs/zebra-output.log --verbose=1 --respawn --delay=30 --user=ochs-koha.ochs-koha -- zebrasrv -v none,fatal,warn -f /etc/koha/sites/ochs/koha-conf.xml 18:28 devap ps -ef | grep zebra: 18:28 jcamins Oh, I see. Instead of the localhost:9999 use unix:/var/run/koha/ochs/zebradb/bibliosocket (check that path) 18:27 devap Connecting...error = System (lower-layer) error: Connection refused 18:27 devap % sudo -u ochs-koha yaz-client -c /etc/koha/zebradb/ccl.properties localhost:9999/biblios 18:26 jcamins If you still get an error, try sudo -u ochs-koha yaz-client... 18:26 devap Connecting...error = System (lower-layer) error: Connection refused 18:25 jcamins Looks good. Try again with yaz-client. 18:25 devap ...done. 18:25 devap Starting Zebra server for ochs 18:25 devap Stopping Zebra server for ochs 18:25 devap * Restarting Koha ILS koha-common 18:25 devap % (as root) service koha-common restart 18:25 jcamins `sudo service koha-common restart` 18:25 devap that's what I thot 18:25 devap whew 18:25 jcamins Packages are best. 18:24 jcamins Nope. 18:24 devap was that a bad thing to do? 18:24 jcamins Excellent. 18:24 devap apt-get install koha-common 18:24 jcamins You used packages? 18:24 devap 1009 32752 32751 1 13:21 ? 00:00:00 zebrasrv -v none,fatal,warn -f /etc/koha/sites/ochs/koha-conf.xml 18:23 jcamins Kill it and try restarting it. 18:23 jcamins devap: okay, Zebra isn't running for real then. 18:23 devap jcamins: Connecting...error = System (lower-layer) error: Connection refused 18:12 * drojf yawns 18:05 jenkins_koha Starting build #1037 for job Koha_master (previous build: FIXED) 18:00 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Merge branch 'bug_9421' into 3.12-master <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=855fde154cca3f9caa3c8a736a41b4626f4badb3> / Bug 9421: tools/picture-upload.pl not Plack-compatible <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=75703cf6041aa83fe0decb0343856d745aa998d2> / Merge branch 'bug_9432' into 3.12-master <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=fe14e6a 17:46 jcamins Hehe. 17:45 drojf aaaw, patches pushed to master. they grow up so fast 17:44 jcamins Oh, and, obviously, change the paths to match where your bibliosocket is. :) 17:43 jcamins Actually, you can use the exact commands on the second page. 17:43 devap k 17:42 jcamins We're going to log in using the yaz-client command from the second page. 17:42 jcamins devap: http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Troubleshooting_Koha_as_a_Z39.50_server http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Search_Info 17:41 jcamins devap: let's try a search with yaz. 17:40 devap yep - 3.10.02.000 17:39 jcamins Oh, 3.10.2. 17:39 jcamins devap: did I ask you what version of Koha? 17:39 devap jcamins: no 17:35 drojf how do you get the other fields in there? 17:34 skk i tried marcedit but dont knw hw to join multiple items with one bib record 17:34 jcamins devap: do searches work in the staff client? 17:34 jcamins I don't use Marcedit. 17:34 jcamins But I have no idea. 17:34 jcamins It may be possible with marcedit, too. 17:34 jcamins Nothing that I know of. 17:34 drojf have you ditched marcedit? 17:33 skk is there any link which will give clue hw to get this done 17:32 jcamins skk: it doesn't really come with documentation. 17:32 skk i dont see csvtomarc on abv site and hw to use it 17:28 jcamins ^^ the by_others/csvtomarc.pl script may help with that. 17:28 wahanui i heard migration toolbox was https://www.gitorious.org/koha-toolbox/ 17:28 jcamins migration toolbox? 17:28 jcamins skk: you'll need to put each of the items into a 952. 17:26 skk need help on excel to marc data conversion. if excel sheet has multiple same titles while importing data into marc how to attach same items to single biblio 17:08 drojf :) 17:08 jcamins I know my pleasantly interruption-free day had to be a fluke. 17:07 jcamins Actually, that's probably a good explanation. 17:07 jcamins drojf: lol 17:06 drojf jcamins: windows xp server with kaspersky somewhere on your registrar's side? ;) 17:04 jcamins I haven't a clue why, but re-entering the MX records fixed it. 17:03 jcamins My registrar wasn't sending NS records with its responses. 17:03 * jcamins fixes his e-mail problem. 16:48 devap jcamins -- will go through FAQ to make sure I didn't miss something. 16:48 wahanui passed QA is the queue jcamins should watch 16:48 libsysguy passed QA? 16:48 libsysguy fine then 16:48 wahanui i already had it that way, libsysguy. 16:48 libsysguy wahanui Passed QA is the queue jcamins should watch 16:47 gmcharlt Passed QA is the queue jcamins should watch 16:47 wahanui gmcharlt: I forgot passed qa 16:47 gmcharlt wahanui: forget Passed QA 16:47 libsysguy i guess punctuation doesn't matter much 16:47 wahanui Passed QA is the queue paul should watch 16:47 libsysguy Passed QA? 16:46 wahanui passed qa is, like, the queue paul should watch 16:46 jcamins Passed QA. 16:46 libsysguy plack patches you say? 16:46 * oleonard too 16:46 drojf i have 16:46 drojf that's odd 16:46 jcamins Has anyone else? 16:46 jcamins Or any other list. 16:46 jcamins I haven't received any e-mail from koha-bugs. 16:46 jcamins wait. 16:46 jcamins Nice! Two Plack patches, ... 16:45 devap yes - ps -aux shows zebra running 16:45 jcamins Guess that means I have things to push. 16:45 jcamins :) 16:45 drojf that warm, fuzzy feeling when patches that i signed off on yesterday already got qa'ed 16:44 libsysguy that too 16:44 jcamins You worked through the final faq? 16:44 libsysguy and you said you see zebra running in a ps aux? 16:44 libsysguy okay so it definitely sounds like a zebra issue, like jcamins said 16:43 devap problem is no results returned 16:42 libsysguy ^^ 16:42 jcamins I mean, I'm surprised that Koha worked at all with mod_perl. 16:42 devap (port 80 = nginx/uwsgi, port 81 = apache2/mod_perl) 16:42 jcamins I'm surprised it worked with mod_perl. 16:42 devap But the same (no results) occurs behind apache/mod_perl : http://koha.ochs.org.uk:81/ 16:42 jcamins Okay, in that case we can almost certainly narrow the problem down to Zebra. 16:41 libsysguy so what was the root problem again? 16:41 devap yes 16:41 libsysguy okay 16:41 libsysguy yeah 16:41 jcamins Thanks. 16:41 jcamins Okay, so uWSGI ~~ Starman. 16:41 libsysguy ah 16:40 devap Since I already had uwsgi running, and had trouble getting starman running... 16:40 libsysguy perhaps uWSGI is a fcgi server and devap has elected to use in in place of something like starman? 16:40 devap mainly because I'm already using it for django/python apps, and it is much faster than my previous apache/mod_perl setup 16:39 * jcamins hopes so. :) 16:39 libsysguy perhaps when devap gets back he can enlighten us 16:38 jcamins But I also use a database for distributed systems, so I am none the wiser. 16:38 kf bye all have a nice evening :) 16:38 libsysguy not really sure why you'd want it for Koha 16:38 jcamins Sure, I see that in the first sentence. 16:37 libsysguy for distributed systems? 16:37 jcamins And having skimmed it, I still haven't the faintest idea why I'd want it. 16:37 jcamins libsysguy: yeah, I just skimmed that. 16:37 libsysguy http://projects.unbit.it/uwsgi/ jcamins 16:37 jcamins oleonard: nope. 16:36 oleonard Would the logs show permissions errors? 16:36 jcamins What's uwsgi, BTW? 16:36 devap I'll check perms 16:36 devap reindexed = ues 16:36 devap zebra running = yes 16:34 jcamins ^^ last question 16:34 wahanui i think faq is found at http://koha-community.org/documentation/faq/ 16:34 jcamins faq? 16:34 jcamins Most likely the problem is permissions on the Zebra files, if the answer to both those questions is "yes." 16:33 jcamins And is Zebra running? 16:33 devap hmmm -- thought so. lemme confirm... 16:33 jcamins Did you reindex? 16:33 devap database migrated, ran update script, no errors 16:33 drojf the link to the first does not do anything 16:32 devap the second does not 16:32 devap The link to the first site returns results 16:32 drojf jcamins is always faster 16:32 devap I managed to get the new version (3.10.02) running with nginx/uwsgi 16:32 drojf devap: it is helpful to form a question 16:32 jcamins (the first site does not load) 16:32 jcamins What is the problem, and what have you tried so far? 16:31 devap http://koha.ochs.org.uk/cgi-bin/koha/opac-search.pl?q=kenneth 16:31 devap koha vers: 3.10.02.000 16:31 devap http://library.ochs.org.uk/cgi-bin/koha/opac-search.pl?q=kenneth 16:31 devap koha vers: 3.04.02.000 16:31 devap I need some help -- having trouble with a data migration (and upgrade)… 16:26 drojf hi rambutan 16:26 rambutan greetings 16:24 drojf good evening #koha 16:13 gmcharlt thanks 16:12 oleonard Sure gmcharlt 16:12 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9556 normal, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Needs Signoff , Changing patron category does not fully update patron messaging preferences 16:12 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9529 major, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Signed Off , Adding a patron shows javascript on screen under login section 16:12 gmcharlt oleonard: while testing and signing off on your patch for bug 9529, I came across bug 9556; care to trade testing? 15:43 Rob_synd_dev1 OK I'll add it to bugzilla 15:43 jcamins (even if we find it inexplicable!:) 15:42 jcamins We prefer the last option, of course, but recognize that some people don't want to write patches for Koha. 15:42 kf but I think having the information on bugzilla on how your api works would be cool - so it would be known that it can be improved 15:42 nengard new developers++ :) 15:42 kf ah right, jcamins can phraseit better :) 15:42 jcamins And we're always happy to help new developers through the process. 15:42 kf Rob_synd_dev1: it needs someone interested enough to pay for it or do it themselves, you could hire someone or provide a patch 15:42 jcamins I/my company -- and a number of other companies/individuals -- will do developments for hire, of course, if you prefer to go that route. 15:41 Rob_synd_dev1 I see, good to know. Thanks. 15:41 jcamins (okay, that wasn't actually very long, but I wasn't sure if you had missed the responses) 15:40 wahanui logs is http://irc.koha-community.org/irclog/koha/ 15:40 kf logs? 15:40 jcamins Rob_synd_dev1: so, to make a long answer short: it sounds like no one will be implementing the changed Syndetics covers retrieval gratis. 15:40 Rob_synd_dev1 Just got kicked off. So I'll log the lack of Syndetics EAN support as a bug. 15:36 nengard pleny on my plate thank you 15:36 nengard HA 15:36 jcamins nengard: this could be your breakaway opportunity! 15:36 nengard expecially since I'm not a dev :) 15:36 nengard am not volunteering :) 15:36 nengard but we have plenty of devs in the oven right now ;) so I 15:35 nengard We do 15:35 * jcamins doesn't have any clients using Syndetics at the moment. ByWater or Equinox might. 15:35 oleonard Or of course they could be convinced to do it for hire 15:34 oleonard It might be something one of the support companies would be interested in picking up if they have customers who use Syndetics 15:34 oleonard Perl 15:32 Rob_synd_dev I'm not familiar with the project. What programming language is it in? I could ask for approval but I was wondering if someone else could make the change. 15:30 oleonard Rob_synd_dev: Are you guys willing and able to submit a patch, or are you looking for someone else to make the change? 15:29 oleonard The first step would be to file a bug with a detailed description of the problem. 15:29 oleonard Rob_synd_dev: Our bug tracker is here: http://bugs.koha-community.org 15:29 Rob_synd_dev Should be "when NO ISBN is present" 15:28 Rob_synd_dev What would be involved in getting Koha changed to support using EANs in image request? 15:28 Rob_synd_dev I'm a consultant working on the Syndetics project for Bowker. One of our clients is using Koha and not getting some Syndetics images because the EAN field (024 field with ind1=3) in MARC records is not being used when ISBN is present. The EAN can be used in place of the ISBN in a Syndetics image request (such as isbn=9999999999999/lc.jpg). 15:28 oleonard Hi Rob_synd_dev 15:27 Rob_synd_dev Hello 15:11 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9529 major, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Needs Signoff , Adding a patron shows javascript on screen under login section 15:11 oleonard Bug 9529 is a dumb typo bug I introduced, so I would be grateful for a signoff 14:41 * oleonard almost ruins his day by forgetting he turned off AllowOnShelfHolds for testing 14:23 kf gmcharlt++ 14:22 oleonard gmcharlt++ # for testing patches 13:46 jcamins I think right now we have the apt repo set up to remove unreferenced packages. 13:45 libsysguy oh so there are packages for 3.8.2 3.8.3 etc etc 13:44 jcamins We release signed packages based on release versions. 13:43 libsysguy don't we just release the most stable package? 13:43 jcamins And I'm not sure why you would want to. 13:42 jcamins It would require another jenkins slave with more disk space, I think. 13:42 libsysguy the** 13:42 libsysguy would there be a way to keep he old packages? 13:42 jenkins_koha jcamins: job Master_Packages build scheduled now 13:42 jcamins !jenkins build Master_Packages now 13:42 jenkins_koha userstat <username> - prints information about a Jenkins user 13:42 jenkins_koha testresult [<job>|-v <view>] - show the test results of a specific job, jobs in a view or all jobs 13:42 jenkins_koha status [<job>|-v <view>] - show the status of a specific job, jobs in a view or all jobs 13:42 jenkins_koha schedule <job> [now|<delay>[s|m|h]] [<parameterkey>=<value>]* - schedule a job build, with standard, custom or no quiet period 13:42 jenkins_koha s [<job>|-v <view>] - show the status of a specific job, jobs in a view or all jobs 13:42 jenkins_koha queue - show the state of the build queue 13:42 jenkins_koha q - show the state of the build queue 13:42 jenkins_koha jobs [<job>|-v <view>] - show the status of a specific job, jobs in a view or all jobs 13:42 jenkins_koha health [<job>|-v <view>] - show the health of a specific job, jobs in a view or all jobs 13:41 jenkins_koha h [<job>|-v <view>] - show the health of a specific job, jobs in a view or all jobs 13:41 jenkins_koha currentlyBuilding - list jobs which are currently in progress 13:41 jenkins_koha comment <job> <build-#> <comment> - adds a description to a build 13:41 jenkins_koha cb - list jobs which are currently in progress 13:41 jenkins_koha build <job> [now|<delay>[s|m|h]] [<parameterkey>=<value>]* - schedule a job build, with standard, custom or no quiet period 13:41 jenkins_koha botsnack [<snack>] - om nom nom 13:41 jenkins_koha alias [<alias> [<command>]] - defines a new alias, deletes one or lists all existing aliases 13:41 jenkins_koha abort <job> - specify which job to abort 13:41 jenkins_koha Available commands: 13:41 jcamins !jenkins help 13:41 jenkins_koha Use '!jenkins help' to get help! 13:41 jenkins_koha jcamins did you mean me? Unknown command 'start' 13:41 jcamins !jenkins start Master_Packages now 13:41 jcamins Jenkins does build the packages, yes. 13:41 libsysguy can jenkins do deb builds? 13:38 oleonard (speaking of YUI) 13:37 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8278 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, NEW , Replace YUI autocomplete in UNIMARC 210c plugin 13:37 oleonard Any UNIMARC people around? I'd love for someone to look at Bug 8278 13:35 jenkins_koha nengard: update transport cost matrix info 13:35 jenkins_koha Project Koha_Docs build #278: STILL FAILING in 18 sec: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Docs/278/ 13:35 jenkins_koha nengard: update transport cost matrix info 13:35 jenkins_koha Project Koha_Docs_3.10.x build #16: STILL FAILING in 18 sec: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Docs_3.10.x/16/ 13:35 jenkins_koha Starting build #278 for job Koha_Docs (previous build: STILL FAILING -- last SUCCESS #60 9 mo 14 days ago) 13:35 jenkins_koha Starting build #16 for job Koha_Docs_3.10.x (previous build: STILL FAILING) 13:28 * kf has to do research 13:28 kf jcamins: I think deletedborrowers might have been the one without... 13:28 jcamins It's not that secret once you share a patch. 13:28 libsysguy jcamins you're not supposed to tell people that I have secretly been bitching about the cataloging framwork 13:28 jcamins Yay! 13:28 kf jcamins: deleteditems has a timestamp! 13:27 jcamins oleonard: where "they" is libsysguy. :P 13:27 libsysguy they? 13:27 oleonard I'm sure they're working on that jcamins 13:27 jcamins I'd like a keyboard-only cataloging module. 13:27 wahanui http://uber.geek.nz/pony.jpg 13:27 oleonard A pony? 13:27 jcamins You know what I'd like from Bootstrap? 13:26 libsysguy that seems like quit a bit of work for very little return 13:25 oleonard Oh I see. Well converting all staff client templates to Bootstrap grids (or even some other grid) is certainly possible, but not a priority for me. 13:25 libsysguy probably YUI 13:24 oleonard What page layout? The Bootstrap grid? 13:24 libsysguy actually I am probably wrong on what I am thinking, but when I first started I was frustrated by the page layout (not that it can't be changed with css etc) 13:23 oleonard ? 13:23 libsysguy :p 13:23 libsysguy is the next order of business the underlying element structure? 13:22 libsysguy excellent 13:22 oleonard Going very well. The YUI menu to Bootstrap conversion is a piece of cake 13:22 libsysguy how is the bootstrap working coming? 13:22 wahanui i think oleonard is not really here. He said so. He did! 13:22 libsysguy oleonard! 13:21 kf :) 13:21 kf hi oleonard 13:19 oleonard Hi #koha 13:13 kf hi Oak 13:13 * Oak_ waves 13:02 H well i'm happy with the result but its a question we probably gonna aget as we will do a demo for our institution so i asked here 13:00 jcamins In that case you probably have AutoTruncate turned on already. 13:00 H ah it does not 12:59 H ok but the ? at the end would work then ill test it sec 12:58 kf H: I was not aware that we can do that now and thougth jcamins will know and if it does not work currently, he might know how to make it work :) 12:58 jcamins However, adding wildcard searching is something which would be incredibly expensive with very little benefit. 12:58 jcamins I'm rewriting search. 12:58 kf H no, not at all :) 12:57 H lol oeps i did bring up the wrong subject 12:57 jcamins Wildcards in the middle of the word do not work. 12:57 kf oooh 12:57 jcamins kf: no, I'm not fixing that. 12:57 * kf looks at jcamins and waits for 'search rewrite' :P 12:57 H ye my english sometimes i know 12:57 H ye 12:57 H :) 12:57 kf wildcards? 12:56 kf aah 12:56 H f?sh did not work for fish 12:56 jcamins QueryAutoTruncate tells Zebra to automatically treat every word as left-anchored. 12:55 jcamins It's a syspref. 12:55 H what was that last tip ? 12:54 jcamins_away Or turn on QueryAutoTruncate. 12:54 H ah 12:54 jcamins_away H: that is, use a question mark. :) 12:54 jcamins_away H: ? 12:53 H Are there anny search parameters u can use in koha a % or something if you dont know the total word 12:52 H Hey koha 10:17 huginn drojf: The operation succeeded. 10:17 drojf @later tell rangi they have rebuilt koha with indexeddb ;) http://mdn.mozillademos.org/en-US/docs/IndexedDB/Using_IndexedDB$samples/Full_IndexedDB_example?revision=342953 09:52 tweetbot` [off] twitter: @kohails: "#kohails Newsletter Koha Comunautaire de Décembre 2012 et Janvier 2013 http://t.co/AnaRwgve" 09:40 drojf ah i see 09:39 kf and the problems we had around that 09:39 kf i wastoo worried about hourly loans 09:38 kf ah no 09:35 drojf oh. i thought you upgraded to 3.8 not too long ago 09:35 kf no, on 3.6.10, preparing update to 3.10 09:34 kf while 3.6.3 still did 09:34 drojf are you still not on 3.8? 09:34 kf 3.6.10 stopped logging fines 09:34 kf meh 09:24 drojf morning kf an paul_p 09:23 paul_p mornign kf ;-) 09:22 kf mornign paul_p and drojf++ :) 09:20 skk my excel has title, author, accnumber, call number, branchname, itemtype while converiting excel to marc i mapped each field with marctag 09:19 drojf if they are seperate in your data, how are they connected? in excel i mean 09:18 drojf i don't know how marcedit works. in general, the 952 fields for each item need to be added to the record data of the respective record 09:17 skk right i added item details in 952 tag only but wondering how i can attach these single records to a common biblio 09:16 drojf then you need to create a 952 field for each of the items. i don't know how that works in marcedit. 952 is the field koha uses for item data at import level, with info like barcode and call number. what do you do with the itenm data so far? 09:15 skk yes 09:15 drojf are the multiple items part of your data? 09:15 skk i would like to now check whether while importing records into koha is there any way by which i can attach multiple items to single biblio 09:14 skk i have a excel sheet where i mapped each column and converted a marc file 09:14 skk means 09:14 drojf if i understand you correctly 09:14 drojf add multiple 952 fields 09:13 skk i have 30777 excel data which is imported into marc but wanted to know how can i attach multiple copies to single record while importing data into koha 09:13 skk i am converting data from excel to marc using marcedit. need to know how to import multiple items with single bibliographic records is there a way in MARCEDIT or koha marc import while importing records match bibliographic record and then only attach item to it 09:11 drojf hei magnuse 09:11 magnuse kia ora drojf 09:10 drojf good morning #koha 09:10 huginn drojf: The current temperature in Prenzlauer Berg, Berlin, Germany is 1.5°C (9:43 AM CET on February 06, 2013). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 74%. Dew Point: -3.0°C. Windchill: -2.0°C. Pressure: 29.47 in 998 hPa (Steady). 09:10 drojf @wunder berlin, germany 08:35 skk Need a help in excel to marc conversion. If the excel file has same titles with additional copies hw to attach those multiple items to single record. is it possible while importing that mrc file in koha or in marcedit it can be first done. 08:30 magnuse \o/ 08:24 * kf waves again 08:19 lds hi magnuse 08:19 magnuse hiya lds and kf 07:56 magnuse hiya Irma and reiveune 07:45 wahanui hola, reiveune 07:45 reiveune hello 07:34 cait bbl! 07:34 cait me too :) 07:33 magnuse i'm hoping for some nice spring weather in marseille at the end of march :-) 07:33 sophie_m great ! 07:32 magnuse it is here too, finally! :-) 07:32 magnuse yay 07:32 sophie_m magnuse : it will become warmer, the sun is here :-) 07:32 magnuse pft 07:32 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Kautokeino, Norway is -9.0°C (7:00 AM CET on February 06, 2013). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 80%. Dew Point: -11.0°C. Pressure: 29.71 in 1006 hPa (Rising). 07:32 magnuse @wunder kautokeino 07:32 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is -1.7°C (8:25 AM CET on February 06, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 92%. Dew Point: -3.0°C. Windchill: -2.0°C. Pressure: 29.50 in 999 hPa (Steady). 07:32 magnuse @wunder konstanz 07:32 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is -2.0°C (8:20 AM CET on February 06, 2013). Conditions: Low Drifting Snow. Humidity: 59%. Dew Point: -9.0°C. Windchill: -11.0°C. Pressure: 29.53 in 1000 hPa (Steady). 07:32 magnuse @wunder boo 07:32 sophie_m bonjour magnuse :-) 07:32 magnuse ooh chilly! 07:31 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Marseille, France is 3.0°C (8:00 AM CET on February 06, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 75%. Dew Point: -1.0°C. Windchill: 0.0°C. Pressure: 29.74 in 1007 hPa (Steady). 07:31 magnuse @wunder marseille 07:31 magnuse bonjour sophie_m 07:30 magnuse nice 07:28 cait but it should be a bit better after that 07:27 cait so it's quite stressful 07:27 cait there was not a lot of time between the first 2 exam dates this year 07:27 magnuse yay 07:27 cait I hope that once I have finished my current distance study course I will have more time too 07:27 cait :) 07:27 cait ) 07:26 magnuse i have high hopes of better times ahead, though :-) 07:26 magnuse well, i'll probably not be able to contribute much this spring, except for during the hackfest 07:25 magnuse yeah 07:24 cait there is always another month :) 07:23 cait aah 07:23 magnuse cait: just saw some stats from rangi 07:23 magnuse heh 07:20 wahanui i heard december was ok .. some years 07:20 cait december? 07:15 magnuse shame on me for no signoffs in december 07:10 magnuse \o/ 07:10 * cait waves 07:02 * magnuse waves 03:42 dcook So much documentation, so little time 03:41 dcook It's so seldom that I look at the git from the top level 03:40 dcook Mmm, there it is 03:40 jcamins You can submit a patch to the kohadocs git repo. 03:40 dcook How does one edit the manual? 03:39 dcook It not working precipitated all my earlier questions/investigations 03:38 dcook My thoughts exactly 03:38 jcamins Seems pretty wrong. 03:38 * jcamins doesn't know why that would be in the manual. 03:37 dcook Makes me wonder how many frustrated librarians they've been or if it's just not that common 03:37 jcamins I never tried it. 03:37 jcamins I'm not sure it works. 03:34 dcook But I can't get > or < to work, although maybe I'm mis-reading the examples 03:34 dcook I've tried some of the examples from http://manual.koha-community.org/3.8/en/searchguide.html 03:34 dcook Sweet. I just noticed it out of the corner of my eye 03:33 jcamins No, that's right. 03:33 dcook att 9905 03:33 dcook llength 03:33 dcook line 263 03:33 jcamins What typo? 03:33 dcook Possibly typo in bib1.att... 03:33 dcook Hmm.. 03:33 dcook I'll stop there, lol. I figure date is the most useful. 03:33 dcook barcode 03:32 dcook Although that's unlikely, I would think 03:32 dcook Mmm, price 03:32 dcook Maybe local codes of some kind 03:31 dcook Maybe call numbers, although I wonder how well that works 03:31 jcamins I couldn't think of any, either. 03:31 dcook Not off the top of my head 03:30 jcamins dcook: are there any instances you can think of where you would want to use greater than/less than for something other than dates? 03:27 wajasu i am looking at the author By link and its hardcoded with: /cgi-bin/koha/catalogue/search.pl?q=au:[% author |url %] so i think we need something here to change that link in case UseAuthsWithTracings syspref is enabled. 03:24 wajasu or the pager in my system 03:23 wajasu maybe my less is interpreting tt stuff. 03:23 wajasu i was using less 03:22 wajasu wierd detail.tt looks different depending on if I use vi vs less. 03:20 libsysguy hey bag 03:20 wahanui libsysguy is Koha's hottest developer or partying with swedes on his deck or koha's youngest developer 03:20 bag heya libsysguy 03:20 jcamins Nor anything that says "References". 03:20 bag heh 03:20 jcamins wajasu: I just looked at the file, and I see nothing like [9] 03:20 libsysguy then they came for my HDD noise, and I said nothing 03:19 jcamins libsysguy: hehe. 03:19 libsysguy first they came for my dial up sounds and I said nothing 03:19 wajasu i'm looking at koha-tmpl/intranet-tmpl/prog/en/modules/catalogue/detail.tt 03:19 bag plus they are so much less noisy 03:19 jcamins wajasu: http://template-toolkit.org/docs/manual/index.html 03:19 bag I think it will 03:18 mtj bag, hopefully an SSD will speed-up some git stuff, on big repos 03:18 wajasu i suppose th [9] gets replaced with the References enumeration at the bottom. 03:18 bag we were looking for something to handle 2+ million circs 03:17 jcamins And you see that in the template file? 03:17 bag yeah that should be fine mtj 03:17 wajasu [9] is and example 03:16 jcamins What's "[numbers]" mean? 03:16 * wajasu just learning how the template toolkit works. 03:16 mtj bag - yeah, i was thinking about running my dev xen.vm file from an SSD... 03:16 jcamins wajasu: huh? 03:15 wajasu when i look at the bottom of the template, i see enumerated references. i guess those get substituted for the [numbers] up above. 03:15 bag hoping we could find some better I/O - the VM's we are currently using just don't have enough 03:14 mtj … i might google-about to see which ones to select/avoid 03:14 bag we were trying just to see 03:14 jcamins :) 03:14 jcamins Ah. 03:14 bag *testing* 03:14 jcamins bag: aren't you supposed to not put databases on an SSD because there are too many rewrites? 03:13 bag we did some testing on putting mysql on a SSD attached to a server - but didn't notice any better I/O 03:13 mtj ok, thanks jared - i think i might buy an SSD drive, as they are pretty cheap, for a smaller one 03:12 wajasu ./koha-tmpl/intranet-tmpl/prog/en/modules/catalogue/detail.tt 03:12 bag it's been fine so far - althought it's a bit small 03:12 bag I've got a SSD lappy 03:12 jcamins wajasu: what? 03:11 wajasu those Reerences at the bottom. i guess they get substituted above. 03:11 wajasu looking at the template toolkit templates. 03:11 jcamins mtj: I do not, no. 03:10 mtj anyone have any opinions about upgrading either lappys or servers to SSD drives? 03:10 mtj another random off-topic Q for the group… 02:27 jcamins mib_tm: good! 02:26 mib_tm thanks jcamins for the tips. I think I got it now. 02:25 * jcamins too! 02:24 dcook How I wish I had the money to sponsor Koha re-writes 02:23 dcook Hehe 02:22 jcamins Unless that's a feature which you're interested in funding, in which case we can move it up to "part of the search rewrite" status, of course. ;) 02:20 jcamins And an optional additional feature. 02:20 dcook Mmm 02:19 jcamins Right, but that's not funded. 02:19 dcook Mmm 02:19 dcook Like the "Multi-lingual stemming" part of your RFC 02:19 jcamins Not unless someone pays for it. 02:19 dcook Right. I was wondering if you were going to try to handle stemming before the query got to Zebra somehow 02:18 jcamins I'm not rewriting Zebra, just the way Koha interfaces with it. 02:18 dcook O_o 02:17 jcamins No. 02:17 dcook Is part of the re-write about that as well? 02:16 jcamins stem and phonetic I knew. 02:16 jcamins I didn't realize there was no not-equal. 02:16 jcamins Uh. 02:15 dcook So...no "not equal", "phonetic", or "stem" relations. That's cool...:@ 02:14 dcook http://www.indexdata.com/zebra/doc/querymodel-rpn.html#querymodel-bib1-nonuse 02:13 dcook Huh...apparently Zebra actually doesn't support all the Bib-1 attributes... 02:13 mtj hey bags - man, i love it when its a pebcak error :p 02:09 bag yup system pref 02:09 bag heya mtj 02:05 mtj perfect - thanks jcamins++ 02:04 jcamins I think it's PatronImages or PatronCards. 02:04 jcamins mtj: you have to enable patron images. 02:04 mtj i have sucessfully uploaded an image - and its sitting in the patron_image table, ready to go.... 02:03 mtj peeps, do i need to turn on some syspref - to get patron images showing ? 01:58 jcamins mib_tm: then enable the advanced notices message. 01:58 jcamins I guess. 01:58 jcamins Whoops. 01:58 jcamins Then enable I guess. 01:55 wajasu so i guess fines syntax is still broken then. 01:54 jcamins mib_tm: turn on EnhancedMessaging. 01:54 jcamins 9325, sorry. 01:54 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9352 minor, P5 - low, ---, mathieu.saby, Needs Signoff , Zebra indexes useless subfields in UNIMARC 7XX 01:54 jcamins Bug 9352 was caused by the patch for 8378. 01:53 wajasu was teh 9352 part of the reverting, throwing out the fines syntax broken fix? and do we still need to fix the fines syntax? 01:53 mib_tm How do I set Advance Notice to work in Koha 3.8? 01:52 mib_tm Howdy y'al. I got a question. 01:51 alohabot Hi mib_tm, Welcome to #koha. Feel free to use the '/nick yourname' command to choose a different name. alohabot, wahanui, and huginn are bots. If you need any help, just ask - there's usually someone around to help :) 01:51 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8378 minor, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, In Discussion , <fine> syntax not working on overdues anymore 01:51 jcamins wajasu: yes, we reverted bug 8378. 01:50 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9325 critical, P5 - low, ---, julian.maurice, RESOLVED FIXED, overdue notices sent same messages for all users. 01:50 jcamins bug 9325 01:50 dcook Mmm, fair enough. Thanks for the info. 01:50 jcamins Waiting on QA for the first patch. 01:50 wajasu i suppose 9325 is resolved and on master. is it in 10.2 or will it be in the next release? 01:50 dcook Looking forward to the re-write :). What's the progress like on it? 01:49 jcamins Or when there is an consensus that that we have reached 4.0. 01:49 jcamins When an RM says "I want to call the next version 4.0," it will be 4.0. 01:49 jcamins An indefinite number. 01:49 jcamins It'll work better once the search rewrite has gotten in. 01:47 dcook Actually...while I remember...how many versions of Koha 3 will there be before it becomes Koha 4? 01:45 * dcook goes off to work and be silent for a bit 01:44 dcook Yep, incorrect in master too 01:44 dcook P.S. Thanks again for that pqf prefix tip! 01:43 dcook The only way is using ccl, pqf, or whatever else we have through the search bar 01:43 dcook There is no way to search acqdate with the OPAC web form that I saw 01:42 dcook Agreed. I'm tempted to write up a doco about it now that I have it all up in my head... 01:42 jcamins Our CCL configuration is not very usable. 01:42 jcamins I'd believe it. 01:42 * dcook checks master 01:41 dcook At least the one I have misses "gt" and then it screws up the mappings after that 01:41 dcook Although, if I'm not mistaken, the ccl.properties file looks like it might have the BIB1 relations slightly wrong 01:41 dcook It looks like "acqdate,ge:" will work 01:40 jcamins Yay! 01:40 dcook On the plus side, I've figured out the ccl 01:33 jcamins dcook: neither do I! 01:30 dcook And surely you must be busier than I am 01:30 dcook Even if I had the ability, I wouldn't have the time 01:30 dcook Personally, I don't know where you find the time, jcamins 01:28 jcamins Unfortunately, I don't see much chance of anyone volunteering. 01:27 jcamins I was thinking of sending an e-mail. 01:25 jcamins Nope. 01:25 jcamins The lack of any other candidates for RM? 01:24 bag hmmm.. has that been brought up? 01:24 dcook Well, in theory 01:24 bag whoops 01:24 dcook Hmm, touché 01:24 jcamins bag: nope. 01:24 jcamins *native labels 01:23 jcamins dcook: it doesn't matter whether the configuration uses the numeric attribute values or Zebra's native attributes. 01:23 bag hmm anyone offer up for 3.14 yet? 01:23 jcamins bag: only if the RM runs for two terms. 01:23 dcook That would match the pattern of the others. 01:23 bag ahh I thought RM was a 2 release cycle these days 01:23 dcook "Date-of-acquisition 1=32 / acqdate Date-of-acquisition" 01:23 dcook But shouldn't it say... 01:22 jcamins dcook: that sounds right. 01:22 dcook hehe 01:22 dcook But for Date of acquisition, it says: "Date-of-acquisition 1=Date-of-acquisition / acqdate Date-of-acquisition" 01:22 jcamins bag: I devoutly hope not. 01:21 bag jcamins are you not RM for 3.14? 01:21 dcook I figure that means "ti" or "Title" will be sent as 1=4 01:21 dcook What I mean is...for title, it says : "Title 1=4 ti Title" 01:21 jcamins The numeric attributes are unnecessary. 01:21 dcook ? 01:20 jcamins I don't think so, no. Just Date-of-acquisition and pubdate. 01:20 dcook As for the ccl.properties, I don't think it actually references the Bib-1 attributes for acqdate or pubdate 01:13 dcook *shrug* I guess not 01:12 jcamins Oh, I guess it isn't a year. 01:12 dcook jcamins++ 01:12 dcook jcamins: the issue was that 4=4 attribute. I'm thinking possibly because the 952$d is yyyy-mm-dd, but...not sure. Anyway, @attr 1=32 (or Date-of-acquisition) @attr 2=4 seems to work like a charm 01:10 edveal Hello 01:10 bag welcome back edveal 01:09 bag yeah I'm a new englander at heart 01:08 * hankbank 'hank bank thinks of himself as a new englander' 01:07 dcook Well, I suppose I qualify as mid-west. I only lived on the coast for 2 years or so 01:07 dcook Lots of west coast folk 01:06 dcook Ahh, hey hankbank 01:05 bag hankbank: is another one in California 01:05 hankbank yo bg 01:05 bag yo hankbank 01:04 dcook Although was there a big upset sometime in the past few years when the Mets beat the Yankees? 01:04 bag yup they do 01:04 dcook Hahaha. I don't follow much myself, but I imagine the Yankees cast a pretty big shadow 01:03 bag the mets - is supposed to stand for Metropolitans - but if you are a true fan - it really stands for My Entire Team Sucks :P 01:02 bag The New York Mets 01:02 dcook Who's your team? 01:02 dcook Mmm, that's what I was thinking 01:02 bag the two spots are Florida and Arizona for spring training 01:02 dcook My sister is a baseball fan in Florida :p 01:01 dcook Is that in California or does everyone head south? 01:01 bag only 6 days until pitchers and catchers report for sprint training! 01:00 dcook lol 01:00 bag nice! 01:00 wahanui I LIKE BASEBALL 01:00 bag bag? 01:00 dcook Not sure why 1=32 works when it is used on its own but is an unsupported use attribute when used with other attributes :S 01:00 dcook How the Bib-1 attributes work that is 00:59 dcook Ahh...I see now 00:31 dcook O_o 00:31 jcamins 4=4 is year 00:31 jcamins Greater than or equal 00:30 dcook what's the 2=4 for? 00:30 dcook 4=4 is...year, greater than or equal 00:29 huginn dcook: I suck 00:29 dcook @attr 1=Date-of-acquisition @attr 2=4 @attr 4=4 "1234"\ 00:29 dcook ... 00:29 wahanui it has been said that One last question... is it possible to get a log going all the way back to a specific commit? 00:29 dcook One last question... 00:28 dcook I should put up a post-it that says "check twice, then press enter" 00:27 dcook But one said 2008 (as did the 008 and 260$c) 00:26 dcook In the 2008 example, most of them said 2012 00:26 dcook Multiple 952s 00:26 dcook Nope. Just me being an idiot. 00:26 dcook Ahh 00:26 jcamins Sounds like you have some bad data in 541$d 00:26 dcook Now I try it using 2012 instead of 2008, and it looks all right... 00:26 dcook Hmm.. 00:24 dcook There is an entry for Date-of-acquisition in record.abs next to melm 952$d though 00:24 jcamins Hm. 00:23 dcook It claims that it's handled by 1=32 00:22 dcook But it's commented out 00:22 dcook There is also one for 8014, which is an Items Index 00:22 dcook Hmmm 00:22 dcook That's 32 :/ 00:21 jcamins It's the one identified as Date-of-acquisition in bib1.att. 00:21 jcamins It's probably a different attribute, then. 00:20 dcook But yes, thanks again, jcamins. I really do appreciate the help :) 00:20 dcook When I try f @attr 1=32 "2008", it isn't looking at 952$d, it's definitely looking at 008 or 260$c 00:19 wahanui interesting is sometimes good and sometimes bad 00:19 dcook Interesting.. 00:18 dcook Hmm, maybe not 00:18 dcook I imagine that'll work, since it works for the sort 00:18 dcook Mmm, good call 00:18 dcook Thanks a lot for the pqf prefix insight and that Zebra uses 952$d 00:18 jcamins You can try @attr 1=32 00:17 dcook No worries 00:17 jcamins Not sure why, and I'm not working on Koha things at the moment. 00:17 jcamins Hm. 00:16 dcook Unsupported Use attribute -- v2 addinfo 'Date-of-acquisition' 00:16 dcook Hmm, get a failure in yaz 00:16 dcook Oooh. :D 00:16 jcamins In the OPAC you can use pqf=... 00:15 jcamins (prefix pqf= 00:15 dcook In the OPAC or just in Yaz? 00:15 jcamins I believe that will work. 00:15 huginn jcamins: downloading the Perl source 00:15 jcamins @attr 1=Date-of-acquisition @attr 2=4 @attr 4=4 "1234" 00:14 dcook PQF...that uses the Bib1 attributes? 00:14 dcook Hmm, I've tried, but I'm getting nothing 00:14 jcamins PQF works. 00:14 jcamins I usually use PQF. 00:14 jcamins I'm not sure that actually works. 00:14 jcamins Yes, that's what I meant. 00:13 dcook You mean acqdate? 00:13 dcook O_o 00:13 jcamins Maybe. 00:13 jcamins pubdate,gt:1234 00:13 jcamins And, yes, you can search by acquisition date newer than a certain value. 00:13 dcook That's probably a good thing 00:13 dcook So publication actually uses 008 and not 260$c? 00:13 dcook Intriguing... 00:12 jcamins 008. 00:12 jcamins Publication date is... 00:12 dcook Hmm 00:12 jcamins Acquisition date is 952$d. 00:12 dcook I would hope so, but I don't see where the acquisition date is stored in the marc 00:11 jcamins dcook: acquisition date and publication date are different. 00:11 dcook At least when you query Zebra 00:11 dcook It looks like it uses publication date :S 00:10 dcook As attribute 32 seems to refer to Date-of-acquisition which is MARC 541$d? 00:09 dcook I see that Zebra can sort by acqdate, but I don't know what it's actually using... 00:08 dcook After much poking around in Zebra, could anyone just tell me if it's possible to write a query that retrieves everything from a certain acquisition date to the present? 00:00 drojf good night #koha