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21:22 oleonard ...although without specific dates.
21:22 oleonard I guess the information jcamins referenced above is here: http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Jcamins_Proposal_for_RM-3.12
21:20 cait and put the feature list on a wiki page
21:20 cait maybe we could run the rlease note scripts now and then
21:20 cait but actually that one doesn't look too bad
21:20 cait guess because we never manage to stick to it
21:19 oleonard cait: Like the wiki page wahanui referenced above, for 3.8
21:19 wahanui wizzyrea: I forgot like
21:19 wizzyrea forget like
21:18 wahanui rumour has it like is done all the time in the Lua community
21:18 wizzyrea forget like what
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21:18 wahanui i guess like is done all the time in the Lua community
21:18 cait like what?
21:18 cait hm not sure
21:13 oleonard why isn't there a roadmap to 3.12?
21:08 cait bye jcamins_away :)
21:07 jcamins_away Have a good evening.
21:07 * jcamins_away leaves for good.
21:07 cait hah!
21:07 wahanui somebody said feature freeze was march 22nd 2013
21:07 cait feature freeze?
21:07 cait feature freeze is march 22nd 2013
21:06 wahanui cait: I forgot feature freeze
21:06 cait forget feature freeze
21:06 wahanui cait, I didn't have anything matching freature freeze
21:06 cait wahanui: forget freature freeze
21:06 jcamins_away [off] I guess you haven't heard the joke about engineers' birth control?
21:06 wahanui feature freeze is described at http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Roadmap_to_3.8
21:06 cait feature freeze?
21:06 cait shortening that a bit :)
21:06 cait feature freeze is march 22nd
21:04 rangi heh
21:04 eythian aww didn't work :)
21:03 wahanui eythian: excuse me?
21:03 eythian wahanui: that rangi guy
21:03 trea heh
21:03 oleonard :P
21:03 rangi that rangi guy is a dick
21:03 rangi i dunno
21:01 jcamins_away Developers have personality so fixing is unnecessary.
21:01 jcamins_away Fixing the bugs, not the developers.
21:01 jcamins_away oleonard: that, and because there are a gazillion bugs that need fixing. What better use for developers than, oh, I don't know, fixing them? :P
21:01 wahanui OK, oleonard.
21:01 oleonard wahanui: Koha 3.12 feature freeze is 22 March 2013
21:00 oleonard jcamins_away: So you don't get inundated at the last minute?
21:00 jcamins_away But as of right now, it remains March 22.
21:00 * jcamins_away has been contemplating moving it a bit earlier, so the hackfest is post-feature freeze.
21:00 cait so not a bad timing
21:00 cait that's right after the hackfest in marseille
21:00 jcamins_away The timeline is exactly the same as what it was when I announced the timeline prior to being elected.
20:59 cait and it worked
20:59 jcamins_away March 22.
20:59 rangi only jcamins_away knows the answer :)
20:59 cait good plan
20:59 cait oh
20:59 rangi cait: i think he is trying to :-)
20:59 oleonard cait: I'm going to keep throwing out random timeframes until someone corrects me
20:59 cait oleonard: now you really confused me
20:58 eythian hi
20:58 cait 3 weeks????
20:58 oleonard rangi: But with the 3.12 feature freeze four months away we have plenty of time for new features!
20:58 rangi i dont even see bootstrap as a new feature either
20:58 rangi fixing the UX isnt a feature its a bugfix
20:58 rangi oleonard: like i said, no new features
20:57 cait will take it in steel grey too :)
20:57 cait rangi: keen on bootstrap because of better accessibility
20:57 oleonard that'll never work, what with the 3.12 feature freeze coming up in only three weeks.
20:56 rangi *nod*
20:56 jcamins_away There are many bugs that could use fixing.
20:56 rangi if we stop adding retarded 'features' from legacy ils ... the world would be a nicer place
20:56 * jcamins_away thinks that would be a great idea.
20:56 * rangi dreams
20:56 rangi and then 3.14 would be the opac release
20:54 rangi id be happy if 3.12 introduced no new features, just fixed things (like the search stuff) and all our UX issues
20:53 oleonard Gawd I hate the suggestions management interface
20:50 wizzyrea yet
20:50 wizzyrea but I haven't submitted it back
20:50 wizzyrea and I did some yesterday on it
20:50 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9420 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Work on Bootstrap for Koha
20:50 wizzyrea bug 9420 holds the original work of corey
20:49 wizzyrea one sec
20:49 wizzyrea there is a bug
20:49 wizzyrea adding down carats to the dropdown
20:49 oleonard wizzyrea: File a bug and post screenshots?
20:49 wizzyrea instead of the steel grey of default bootstrap
20:48 wizzyrea overriding the bootstrap CSS to make it look a bit more like it does now
20:48 jcamins_away wizzyrea: HTML + CSS
20:48 oleonard What kind of menu styling wizzyrea?
20:48 oleonard So, uh... What are the 3.12 freeze dates?
20:47 cait got you :)
20:47 wizzyrea I mean
20:47 wizzyrea successfully navigate through with a keyboard.
20:47 wizzyrea cait: sure, we can ask him. I can tell you though that if you can successfully navigate through it, and the links have appropriate context and/or ARIA regions, that it will be fine.
20:46 cait cool :)
20:46 wizzyrea and our student, who is *technically* a design student with an interest in IT, has a real interest in doing more bootstrap work.
20:46 cait wizzyrea: is there a chance you could ask your accessibility expert ot test it wiht a screenreader?
20:46 * wizzyrea has some additional styling work done on the bootstrap menus
20:45 cait gr. can't type
20:45 cait label
20:45 cait rewrite of lablemodule for css html I tihnk
20:45 wizzyrea for html + css instead of pdf or bootstrap
20:45 wizzyrea jcamins_away: funding for what
20:45 cait (including me)
20:45 cait was telling jared tody he needs to remind people of the freeze dats
20:44 cait jcamins_away: see?
20:44 oleonard Someone remind me of the 3.12 release date?
20:44 cait that would be quite awesome
20:44 oleonard cait: Now that the licensing issue is out of the way I don't see why not.
20:43 jcamins_away What we don't know is where the funding for that development would come from.
20:43 cait like the more accessible menus?
20:43 oleonard I still prefer the simplicity of the old tablesorter plugin for most things, but since it doesn't seem to be developed anymore...
20:43 cait oleonard: do you think there is a chance something bootstrappy could be added to 3.12?
20:43 jcamins_away Use HTML + CSS
20:43 cait oleonard+++
20:43 jcamins_away wizzyrea: no, we know what the solution is.
20:42 jcamins_away oleonard++
20:42 oleonard I'm past the halfway point in my tablesorter massacre
20:41 cait oleonard is in a patch frenzy
20:39 wizzyrea (and it's frustrating because the current solution won't work... ever)
20:38 cait wizzyrea: yep, that was what I was thinking :)
20:38 wizzyrea there must be a solution, we just don't know what it is yet.
20:38 cait maybe point to the bug?
20:38 wizzyrea well that is probably how all progress comes about
20:38 cait chris_n: I think it's good people won't accept that for an answer :)
20:35 wizzyrea :/
20:34 * chris_n wonders what's hard to understand about "it won't work... ever"?
20:26 datadoctor the odd thing is that the scanner works fine with regular USB power, no power cord required, so not sure why they shipped it with the weird cable...learned something new!
20:24 datadoctor I thought about using a USB extender, but to be on the safe side, I had the vendor swap the cable for regular USB.
20:20 trea kia ora
20:19 jcamins_away Did you manage to connect it to the computer?
20:18 jcamins_away Very weird.
20:18 datadoctor We accidentally ordered our last scanner with a "powered" USB cord - it was a very weird plug: http://www.poweredusb.org/whatispusb.html
20:17 datadoctor jcamins_away - Unitech makes some super-cheap scanners, datalogic slightly better and the metrologic voyagers are good and not too expensive. try to find one used if you are just using it for testing.
20:15 oleonard datadoctor: The trivial to blocker setting we look at. P5-P1 we don't.
20:15 rangi cya magnuse
20:14 datadoctor to the secondary number, so the bug affects how our patrons are notified.
20:14 wizzyrea gnite magnuse
20:14 * magnuse bids #koha a good night or other time of the day
20:14 datadoctor Thanks oleonard! I read the documentation on it, and didn't know if it was necessary. I don't think this is mission critical, but on our system we send text messages
20:14 wizzyrea I wonder if we should take it off
20:13 oleonard datadoctor: For future reference, you needn't mess with a bug's Priority setting because we don't really pay attention to it
20:02 jcamins_away Now that I work from home, I don't really need a super-nice barcode scanner, because I rarely need it.
20:01 * jcamins_away was spoiled by working in libraries.
20:01 datadoctor Single plane scanners are OK if you are holding them, but multi-plane work a lot better on the desk, and scan better through plastic.
20:00 datadoctor We use Metrologic orbits at the checkout - the multiple scanning planes give you more angles you can scan at.
19:59 datadoctor We are not up and running with that yet, but it's on our priority list for Reference Dept.
19:59 * magnuse would clean up all the uninitialized values etc in the tests, if he had the time...
19:59 jcamins_away I need a barcode scanner.
19:58 datadoctor "Individual configurations may vary." :D
19:57 wizzyrea but that is certainly true in some cases
19:57 wizzyrea datadoctor: that really depends on how your network is set up
19:57 wizzyrea I love the nexus 7 I have.
19:57 datadoctor Then you will have to register your tablet on the network, so you have staff-side access to Koha.
19:56 datadoctor Most tablets are bluetooth ready, but you would want to make sure the tablet has bluetooth capability.
19:55 datadoctor jatara - we liked the motorola cs3000 because of the low price and compact form factor and good reviews, but there are lots of choices
19:51 jatara Thanks. all. Would love to learn more about the tablet-bluetooth scanner
19:50 wizzyrea neat :)
19:50 datadoctor We are implementing a tablet - bluetooth scanner combo for inventory and shelf-scanning.
19:50 wizzyrea it may be all we've got though
19:49 * wizzyrea was just about to link that - but it's not terrifically step by step.
19:49 datadoctor I've got this jatara: http://manual.koha-community.org/3.10/en/inventory.html
19:49 huginn magnuse: Karma for "datadoctor" has been increased 6 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 6.
19:49 magnuse @karma datadoctor
19:48 jatara datadoctor++
19:48 magnuse datadoctor++
19:48 jcamins_away datadoctor++
19:47 jatara Hi, all. Do we have any step-by-step documentation on inventory/stocktaking?
19:47 wizzyrea :)
19:47 datadoctor It's very exciting to be part of this big, wonderful project.
19:44 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9470 major, P3, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Secondary and Other Phone Listings are reversed in patron record after creating
19:44 datadoctor Bug 9470
19:44 datadoctor It's a small thing, but the patron secondary phone number and "other" phone number fields swap when a new patron is created.
19:43 rangi excellent!
19:43 datadoctor Thanks! We are hard at work on another contribution.
19:42 rangi datadoctor: welcome committer 201 :)
19:41 libsysguy haha gah I'm a programmer…you must have me confused with a QAA or something :p
19:38 jcamins_away If the problem is that the test gives false failures, you should fix the test. :P
19:38 jcamins_away No, I want _you_ to submit bugs. If there are bugs.
19:38 libsysguy you want jenkins to submit bugs now too…geez he's a butler not a slave :p
19:37 jcamins_away Also, if it reaches the level of "features don't work," that makes it a bug.
19:36 libsysguy ah okay
19:35 jcamins_away The actual pages are all just from prog.
19:35 jcamins_away The IDs are different only in the headers.
19:35 libsysguy but element verification could be challenging with an all in one test
19:35 libsysguy so you have to have different CCSR tests…unless you are just clicking, then it looks for link text
19:34 libsysguy I think the ID's are different
19:34 jcamins_away Toggle syspref, repeat tests.
19:32 libsysguy or whatever
19:32 libsysguy or ccsr
19:32 libsysguy the other problem is cssr
19:31 jcamins_away Yes, because selenium tests are more likely to be regression tests that need to be run against many different versions.
19:30 libsysguy I can handle that
19:30 libsysguy so jcamins_away you think separate repo is the way to go
19:29 jcamins_away Or git.bws.com. Or gitorious. Or wherever.
19:29 jcamins_away You could have a koha-selenium-library on github.
19:29 libsysguy and I didn't know if I should commit them or put them somewhere else
19:29 rangi course it needs a working koha to test against
19:29 rangi thats the hardest bit, getting that going a server that can run selenium, then jenkins can use that as one of it's slaves
19:29 libsysguy well I have started making modular tests for selenium to run on, so you can stack them to make whatever test you need
19:28 rangi selenium is a pig to run headless
19:28 libsysguy I see
19:28 rangi we already have 2, we need more
19:27 libsysguy so you need to Jenkins servers?
19:26 rangi it can be made to, you need a server with jenkins all set up on it tho, and then configure that as a jenkins slave, you also need to make the build install/upgrade a working koha so that you have something to test against
19:25 libsysguy hey rangi you said Jenkens played nicely with selenium tests right?
19:12 cait it hasn't passed qa yet
19:11 cait hm bit early
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19:09 cait hey rangi
19:09 rangi back
19:08 * cait waves
18:30 melia oop there it goes. just slow I guess. thanks for checking. :)
18:30 jcamins_away Works for me.
18:29 melia bugs.koha-community.org is not loading for me right now. is it just me?
18:27 magnuse collection? yeah, that might make sense!
18:27 vfernandes bye people... cya!
18:27 jcamins_away You could also display it for LDR/07=c
18:26 magnuse hm, so the "show analytics" link is shown only if leader position 7 = "s"? that seems wrong...
18:24 magnuse have fun gerundio
18:19 gerundio see you guys tomorrow
18:19 gerundio enough work for today
18:18 jcamins_away That is an acceptable use of require.
18:17 gerundio ;)
18:17 jcamins_away You can ignore that.
18:17 gerundio it refers to this line: eval { require "$FindBin::Bin/../kohalib.pl" };
18:17 gerundio only 1 occurence now: "require" statement with library name as string at line 26, column 12. Use a bareword instead. (Severity: 5)
18:14 gerundio magnuse++
18:12 magnuse or "perldoc perlcritic"
18:12 magnuse see e.g. http://search.cpan.org/~thaljef/Perl-Critic-1.118/bin/perlcritic
18:11 magnuse you can run "perlcriticrc --profile path/to/t/perlcriticrc"
18:11 gerundio so how can I run my script against percritic with those set of rules defined for koha?
18:09 magnuse s/percriticrc/perlcriticrc/
18:09 magnuse gerundio: there is an official percriticrc file here: http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=blob;f=t/perlcriticrc;h=69b3d7404054f0ac2babbe42e90f3f978defa4f4;hb=HEAD
18:08 gerundio how do you commonly use it?
18:08 gerundio it outputs a truck load of warnings
18:08 gerundio I guess the severity is set too high
18:08 gerundio I ran it against it perlcritic directly with a POST request on a terminal
18:07 gerundio the bot got it right
18:07 gerundio my thoughts too
18:06 magnuse heh
18:05 jcamins_away lol
18:05 wahanui perlcritic is a bastard……
18:05 jcamins_away perlcritic
18:04 gerundio rangi, what is the best way to test the script compliance against PBP?
18:02 magnuse yay for the battiness too, then ;-)
18:02 magnuse hehe
18:01 jcamins_away magnuse: maybe the battiness is why I'm rewriting search. :P
18:01 magnuse (for the agreement, not the ensuing battiness)
18:01 magnuse yay
18:01 jcamins_away It drives me batty that there isn't.
18:01 jcamins_away magnuse: I agree!
18:00 * magnuse thinks there should be an optional way to force koha to put the biblionumber in 001
18:00 * magnuse waves to paul_p
17:57 reiveune bye
17:57 * rangi wanders off for breakfast
17:51 vfernandes I have labels images working in the labels but they are hardcoded... so there is the need of a interface to change that
17:51 vfernandes for exemple: barcode scales numbers can be system preferences and the default character to break the callnumber too
17:50 rangi (built in pdf fonts only support latin-1 those diacritics are part of that)
17:50 vfernandes I need to make some changes but I don't know the better way to do it
17:49 rangi anyway the upshot is, i have no desire to do any work on the current labels system :)
17:48 rangi not consistently across all systems they arent
17:48 vfernandes characters like ã, à , ç... are working
17:47 rangi and that's not the fault of the koha code, thats just the way pdf are
17:46 rangi they are fundamentally broken and work very badly for languages that include diacritics (and worse for non roman character sets)
17:46 vfernandes in labels the layout is not that flexible
17:46 vfernandes in patron cards you can have different fonts, text spaces, images...
17:45 vfernandes I only thing that labels should work more like the patron cards
17:45 jcamins_away vfernandes: there you go. rangi would be someone to talk to. :)
17:45 rangi we would, but not in trying to band aid the pdf stuff
17:44 jcamins_away I meant for pay.
17:44 vfernandes rangi I understand that PDF is less flexible than HTML/CSS but except somethings PDF works fine for me
17:44 rangi not for free no
17:44 jcamins_away rangi: but do you know anyone interested in doing the work?
17:43 rangi thats my opinion anyway
17:43 rangi or we could beat a dead horse for another 5 years and move no where :)
17:42 rangi and to do it with html/css instead
17:42 rangi vfernandes: the win is to ditch pdf ... its bad wrong and evil
17:41 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8375 normal, P5 - low, ---, matted-34813, In Discussion , Common diacritics not shown correctly when exporting batch label to PDF
17:41 wahanui bug 8375 is surposed to fix something, and it's on the right track, but not sufficiant to make utf-8 work.
17:41 rangi bug 8375
17:41 vfernandes I have some "needings" like: change the barcodes scales (on the cards and the labels), introduce images for labels and break callnumbers on labels with other character than the omission (i think it's space)
17:39 jcamins_away I don't know.
17:39 jcamins_away vfernandes: you mean you want to commission someone to do work on it?
17:39 gerundio rangi, got it and will fix the issues ASAP
17:38 vfernandes who is the best person to talk about developments for label and patron cards creators?
17:36 jcamins_away Yeah, a lot of the code in Koha is not actually very good. :(
17:36 rangi still needs to display the help, and not have perlcritic violations tho :) we don't want to introduce more technical debt
17:35 rangi yup
17:35 gerundio rangi, that script was developed based on the existing one pointed to me by jcamins_away, touch_all_biblios.pl
17:34 rangi morning oleonard
17:34 oleonard Good morning rangi
17:33 rangi all of the above
17:33 gerundio the reasons for failure are the issues pointed in lines 69 and 71 or is the fact that "the script has to display the help if it is called without parameter"?
17:32 gerundio Marked as Failed QA.
17:32 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9453 enhancement, P1 - high, ---, rolando.isidoro, Failed QA , Update records acording to the new UNIMARCField100Language system preference
17:32 gerundio bug 9453
17:21 jcamins_away However, I'm not implementing that, so it's just an idea.
17:21 jcamins_away The idea being that the only things that the database user should be required for are related to patrons, catalogue, and cataloging (and maybe circ?).
17:20 jcamins_away slef: right.
17:19 slef jcamins_away: if so, sounds good.
17:19 slef jcamins_away: in other words, userid 0 won't pass a test for superlibrarian any more, only some flags.
17:18 kf jcamins_away: I like that idea
17:17 jcamins_away Just hide the acquisitions, serials, tools., etc. modules.
17:17 jcamins_away slef: I think the database user should not be able to use anything other than core functionality.
17:17 * oleonard has been similarly rescued himself
17:17 oleonard Don't worry slef we're not talking about it going away
17:16 slef oleonard: of course, *we* could probably use a db UPDATE command, but do you really want to be expecting the sort of people who log in as database user to do that? ;-)
17:15 slef oleonard: not got to that mailbox yet today. In general, logging in as the database user has rescued things many many times, but I try not to use it much. If the ability goes away, we'd need another rescue tool.
17:13 oleonard slef: the list conversation about logging in as database user
17:12 slef hrm?
17:12 jcamins_away Me too.
17:11 oleonard jcamins_away: I'm reminded of the old joke where the patient says to the doctor, "It hurts when I do this!" and the doctor replies "Don't do that."
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16:49 oleonard Bye Joubu
16:49 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8089 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Needs Signoff , Use Koha::Cache everywhere
16:49 Joubu jcamins_away: Thanks for your quick reply on bug 8089. I will certainly sign it off tomorrow!
16:49 Joubu good bye all o/
16:33 gerundio kf: will do
16:30 kf gerundio: maybe check if one of the other scripts is able to do it - I am mostly guessing here
16:24 jcamins_away oleonard: lol
16:24 oleonard jcamins_away: Try an eighties-movie-style ski-training montage, you'll be up to speed in no time
16:24 jcamins_away Also snowshoeing.
16:23 jcamins_away You can go skiing... a shame I don't know how to.
16:22 jcamins_away bag: oooh, that looks neat!
16:20 jcamins_away Yeah, we're flying out Friday, and we'll be there until February 4.
16:20 bag you should ride up the tram - that's pretty cool
16:19 bag ah you are going there?
16:19 jcamins_away Nice!
16:19 jcamins_away Not that the weather last weekend predicts what it will be like next week, but I figure it's just as good or better as a predictor than the forecasts.
16:19 bag got upto 78 degrees in the afternoon :)
16:18 jcamins_away How was the weather?
16:18 bag I was in palm desert this last weekend
16:17 jcamins_away Looks like the weather in Palm Desert is going to be high fifties to low seventies next week.
16:17 jcamins_away That makes more sense to me.
16:17 bag hmm cold this morning I guess
16:17 jcamins_away gerundio: I think it would be good to add items to the batchRebuildBiblioTables.pl script.
16:17 huginn bag: The current temperature in APRSWXNET Santa Barbra CA US, Santa Barbara, California is -0.6°C (7:49 AM PST on January 23, 2013). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 6%. Dew Point: -34.0°C. Windchill: -1.0°C. Pressure: 30.02 in 1016 hPa (Rising).
16:17 bag @weather 93101
16:16 bag begin of last week was cold - but lately nice and average
16:16 gerundio should it remain as batchRebuildBiblioTables.pl or a new script?
16:16 jcamins_away bag: how's the weather been recently?
16:15 gerundio to ^ do ^ it
16:15 gerundio I can try to it
16:15 gerundio since there's a feature to map items with marc
16:15 gerundio jcamins_away, my thoughts exactly
16:15 bag morning
16:14 jcamins_away kf: it does, but that means that there needs to be a script for rebuilding the items table.
16:13 kf jcamins_away: does that make sense?
16:13 kf so they stand alone now
16:13 kf the script was bulit to allow you to remap bibliographic infrmation, but we removed the items from the xml
16:13 kf because the item data is not in the marc
16:13 kf or moving data around
16:13 kf that the script might not cover item tables
16:12 gerundio script sounds much better yes
16:12 kf i think the problem might be
16:12 gerundio if I don't have the 995 j data stored there it won't catch my latest stocknumber
16:12 kf I guess using a script is much better :)
16:12 gerundio which looks for the max stocknumber in the items table
16:12 kf what I woudl probably do is use sql and do a complete reindex
16:12 kf I have never used the script
16:11 gerundio because I want to use the stocknumber generator plugin
16:11 kf hmm
16:11 gerundio yes, that's right kf
16:11 wahanui i think interesting is sometimes good and sometimes bad
16:11 jcamins_away Interesting.
16:11 wahanui 7
16:11 jcamins_away wahanui: 7 or 6
16:11 kf but your problem is, that you want to move the data out of the marcxml?
16:11 gerundio right
16:11 jcamins_away 7 or 6
16:11 kf then it shoudl work when adding new data
16:11 wahanui 24
16:11 jcamins_away wahanui: 8 or 16
16:11 kf you map it
16:11 kf ok
16:11 jcamins_away 8 or 16
16:10 jcamins_away 1 or 2
16:10 gerundio I meant 995
16:10 kf depending on your marc flavour :)
16:10 gerundio sorry
16:10 wahanui 1019
16:10 kf 952 or 995
16:10 kf use your normal item field
16:10 kf hm you shouldn't use 999 for mapping
16:09 gerundio it's the right order, correct?
16:09 gerundio and the ran the script
16:08 gerundio I mapped the tag 999 field j to items' stocknumber
16:08 gerundio I ran the script after performing the map
16:08 gerundio kf, lost you there
16:07 kf jcamins_away: exactly.
16:07 kf gerundio: the thing is you haven't mapped it to a database column. the marc record should have it in the proper field and only in the db it shoudl appear in 999
16:07 jcamins_away kf: weird.
16:07 gerundio I think it only updates tables biblio and biblioitems
16:07 gerundio on the other hand, looking now at the batchRebuildBiblioTables.pl source code
16:07 kf same for marc21 and the more_subfields_xml
16:07 kf jcamins_away: hm I think it is like that, although it odesn't make sense
16:01 gerundio right vfernandes?
16:01 gerundio vfernandes told me before that the fact that tag 995 field values get stored as 999 is normal in UNIMARC
16:00 jcamins_away gerundio: that sounds like a bug, yes.
16:00 gerundio might that have anything to do with it?
16:00 gerundio I've mentioned before that even though the field is 995j it gets stored in the more_subfields_xml as tag 999 field j
15:59 gerundio what's the expected behavior?
15:59 gerundio the value remained in the items->more_subfields_xml and items->stocknumber didn't get populated
15:58 gerundio I ran the batchRebuildBiblioTables.pl script after mapping items->stocknumber to MARC field 995j
15:57 gerundio jcamins_away++
15:57 gerundio done
15:57 magnuse jcamins_away: got it, i think! thanks!
15:56 gerundio ok
15:56 jcamins_away Or something to that effect.
15:56 jcamins_away If not, you can simply update the bug saying "I applied this to my standard installation and can confirm it works properly."
15:55 gerundio not using one at the moment
15:55 jcamins_away gerundio: but you don't have a git installation?
15:54 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9453 enhancement, P1 - high, ---, rolando.isidoro, Signed Off , Update records acording to the new UNIMARCField100Language system preference
15:54 gerundio jcamins_away, regarding bug 9453 what do I have to do to sign it off too? I've tested the patch submitted by vfernandes and it works as expected
15:53 jcamins_away Just view the parent record, and go to New->Create child
15:53 jcamins_away If you're just doing parent-child links, I don't think there's anything that needs turning on.
15:53 jcamins_away Ah.
15:53 magnuse jcamins_away: "enhanced analytics"
15:53 jcamins_away magnuse: to use which?
15:49 mib_y2nu66 with only one search opac-search consume 32% cpu use in top command
15:49 magnuse jcamins_away: do i have to change a syspref to use it? or do i just enter stuff into 773? or?
15:48 magnuse http://archive.org/details/Kohacon12-AnalyticRecordsAndKoha
15:48 magnuse ooh there's a video on the interwebs with some dude called Jared Camins-Esakov talking about this stuff...
15:48 jcamins_away (using enhanced analytics)
15:48 jcamins_away Only a child.
15:48 jcamins_away Actually, you can't link to a parent.
15:47 jcamins_away So if you want to link records without involving any items, you want...
15:46 * magnuse has missed something
15:46 magnuse ah!
15:46 jcamins_away The other one ("enhanced analytics") is for linking two bib records without any items being involved.
15:46 jcamins_away (that's "easy analytics")
15:45 magnuse huh?
15:45 jcamins_away The "Link to host item" is for linking items.
15:45 jcamins_away Oh, you're thinking of the other analytics feature.
15:45 magnuse but as long as it works...
15:45 magnuse ask for a biblionumber - or let me search for a biblio. i think that would seem more logical to me...
15:45 jcamins_away The item record is contained in a bib record.
15:44 jcamins_away What else would it do?
15:44 jcamins_away magnuse: right.
15:44 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8595 minor, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , link to 'host item' confusing
15:44 magnuse jcamins_away: but when i do Edit > Link to host item (see bug 8595 for that :-) i'm asked to enter an item barcode, but the result is that the child record is linked to the parent *record* that that barcode "belongs to"...
15:43 jcamins_away mib_y2nu66: _that_ is a problem.
15:43 vfernandes it's easy to change the content but the metadata will be incorrect
15:42 jcamins_away vfernandes: not without going into the database and doing it manually.
15:42 vfernandes yes before being sent
15:42 mib_y2nu66 this is our koha test link http://10.10.11.115/
15:42 jcamins_away vfernandes: in the message queue?
15:42 vfernandes ?
15:42 vfernandes guys it's possible to change a message before sent it
15:41 mib_y2nu66 until 10 seconds
15:41 mib_y2nu66 when we doing search in opac take 7 seconds in give results
15:39 Dyrcona mib_y2nu66: High CPU isn't a problem, unless it is. Are your users complaining that transactions take too long to complete?
15:39 jcamins_away magnuse: it's so that you can have more than one "bib" connected to an item.
15:39 mib_y2nu66 when we launched our tests
15:39 jcamins_away The CPU is there to be used!
15:39 jcamins_away High CPU doesn't matter.
15:38 mib_y2nu66 because we see high cpu in command top
15:37 magnuse doesn't really get where itemnumbers and barcodes fit into the concept of analytics... #marcmustdie
15:37 jcamins_away Performance problem = system doesn't perform well enough for users.
15:36 jcamins_away Wait, so how do you know there is a performance problem?
15:36 mib_y2nu66 they are doing borrows
15:36 mib_y2nu66 test tool
15:36 mib_y2nu66 we are using jmeter
15:35 mib_y2nu66 yes that´s right
15:35 jcamins_away In which case, yes, that's normal.
15:35 jcamins_away Unless everyone clicked a link at exactly the same time.
15:34 jcamins_away That seems higher than when I have benchmarked Koha.
15:32 mib_y2nu66 is normal?
15:32 mib_y2nu66 with 10 users simultaneous
15:32 mib_y2nu66 in this moment it is our load average: 8.37, 3.95, 5.12 top command
15:31 mib_y2nu66 in that moment there was a performance problem
15:30 mib_y2nu66 yes we had 10 simultaneous users
15:30 jcamins_away Because high CPU usage is not a problem.
15:29 jcamins_away Or did you just observe that the CPU usage was high?
15:29 jcamins_away And when you had ten simultaneous users, there was a performance problem?
15:29 mib_y2nu66 no swapping with 4 GB
15:28 mib_y2nu66 we lauched test with 10 simultaneous users with 10 borrows everyone
15:28 jcamins_away I thought you upgraded to 8GB RAM?
15:27 mib_y2nu66 hardware is vmware 4 GB RAM 2 cpus debian
15:27 mib_y2nu66 6 perl process consume 15% cpu everyone in our tests
15:26 jcamins_away 300k records, a few thousand users, right?
15:25 jcamins_away I am inclined to doubt it is your data, because your description of your library sounded very normal.
15:25 jcamins_away Better.
15:25 jcamins_away hardware?
15:25 wahanui jcamins_away: I forgot hardware
15:25 jcamins_away forget hardware
15:25 wahanui hardware is Dell PowerEdge T410
15:25 jcamins_away or hardware
15:25 jcamins_away If you're seeing performance issues, and it's not the OS, since Koha works for other people with similar systems, the only thing left I can think of is your data.
15:24 mib_y2nu66 yes sir
15:22 jcamins_away Same hardware?
15:21 mib_y2nu66 however, the improvement was not as noticeable
15:20 mib_y2nu66 We changed our koha installation suse enterprise to debian, due problem performance cpu in PERL
15:18 mib_y2nu66 Good Morning
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15:12 gerundio give me just some minutes, I'm running the other script regarding the Koha to MARC mapping
15:11 gerundio I'm on it :)
15:08 vfernandes gerundio please test the new patch
15:06 jcamins_away Usually in this case we'd need both you and gerundio to sign off, you to confirm it's working, and gerundio to confirm that the script still works as it was supposed to.
15:05 vfernandes but can I signed off the patch even iwth my name?
15:04 vfernandes don't worry... gerundio told that isn't a problem to be in my name
15:03 jcamins_away Look in the man page. I must've gotten it slightly wrong.
15:02 jcamins_away I do that all the time.
15:02 vfernandes jcamins it didn't work... the patch was submitted with my name
14:58 oleonard I can re-implement it for T:T if it looks right
14:58 vfernandes I tested and it worked
14:58 magnuse gerundio++
14:58 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=2969 major, PATCH-Sent (DO NOT USE), ---, amit.gupta, Failed QA , Report Name should be mandatory for saved reports
14:58 oleonard Anyone have an opinion about whether the database structure change made by the patch on Bug 2969 is correct?
14:58 gerundio the most important thing is that it works, gets tested and becomes available for the community
14:58 vfernandes :)
14:58 vfernandes jcamins and kf told me how to put your name
14:57 gerundio no harm comes to the world because of that
14:57 gerundio go ahead, you can add it with your name
14:57 vfernandes that's why the patch don't apply with git
14:56 gerundio vfernandes, I just added it as an attachment
14:55 vfernandes misc/maintenance?
14:55 vfernandes where should i put the script?
14:55 jcamins_away Yup.
14:55 kf "name <email>"?
14:54 kf ah right
14:54 jcamins_away git commit --author="Whoever..."
14:54 vfernandes ok... i will check it out
14:54 kf -a or something maybe
14:54 kf only not quite sure how that worked
14:54 kf vfernandes: I think there is a way how you could change the author line... ith git
14:53 vfernandes if you want I can submit the script using git but the script will be on my name
14:52 vfernandes yes... the script works fine because I copied the code to a .pl in my installation and tested... but the patch didn't apply probably because I didn't added it with git
14:51 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9453 enhancement, P1 - high, ---, rolando.isidoro, Needs Signoff , Update records acording to the new UNIMARCField100Language system preference
14:51 gerundio vfernandes, the script I submited for bug 9453?
14:50 druthb I'd be no better off in DC, except that I don't get called "sir" there as much. And the food is better.
14:50 huginn druthb: The current temperature in Twinbrook, Rockville, Maryland is -7.7°C (9:47 AM EST on January 23, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 40%. Dew Point: -19.0°C. Windchill: -12.0°C. Pressure: 30.34 in 1027 hPa (Rising).
14:50 druthb @wunder 20852
14:49 druthb I know, right? Life is not fair.
14:49 magnuse :-)
14:49 kf oleonard: ouch!
14:49 oleonard druthb: Colder-than-Norway high five!
14:48 huginn oleonard: The current temperature in OHDOT 31-Athens County Garage, Athens, Ohio is -10.6°C (9:21 AM EST on January 23, 2013). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 74%. Dew Point: -14.0°C. Windchill: -11.0°C. Pressure: 30.34 in 1027 hPa (Rising).
14:48 oleonard @wunder 45701
14:47 huginn druthb: The current temperature in Lawrence Live-Courtesy of the Khoury's, Lawrence, Kansas is -7.2°C (8:45 AM CST on January 23, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 79%. Dew Point: -10.0°C. Windchill: -7.0°C. Pressure: 30.27 in 1025 hPa (Steady).
14:47 druthb @wunder 66046
14:47 huginn kf: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 1.7°C (3:45 PM CET on January 23, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 77%. Dew Point: -2.0°C. Windchill: 2.0°C. Pressure: 29.65 in 1004 hPa (Steady).
14:47 kf @wunder Konstanz
14:47 kf tcohen: how are yu? sorry - such a busy day here today
14:46 vfernandes gerundio: the patch for the script failed
14:42 oleonard I don't understand your description of the problem
14:42 nengard i'm wondering if the shelving location being broken was closed ?
14:41 nengard not the one that says that shelving location is broken
14:41 nengard that's the bug i commented on ;)
14:41 nengard what about it?
14:41 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8266 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , remove location from pull down on search
14:41 oleonard nengard: What is Bug 8266 about?
14:34 rambutan http://www.zdnet.com/fedora-linux-considering-switching-out-mysql-for-mariadb-7000010156/
14:28 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is -3.0°C (2:50 PM CET on January 23, 2013). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 93%. Dew Point: -4.0°C. Windchill: -8.0°C. Pressure: 29.89 in 1012 hPa (Steady).
14:28 magnuse @wunder boo
14:28 tcohen yeah, too hot. we have no sea here...
14:27 magnuse nah, too hot! :-)
14:27 rambutan 32.0°C = tropical paradise :)
14:26 tcohen 41° difference!
14:26 huginn tcohen: The current temperature in Cordoba, Argentina is 32.0°C (11:00 AM ART on January 23, 2013). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 31%. Dew Point: 13.0°C. Pressure: 29.98 in 1015 hPa (Steady).
14:26 tcohen @wunder cordoba, argentina
14:25 huginn rambutan: The current temperature in Wyatt Park, St Joseph, Missouri is -9.4°C (8:23 AM CST on January 23, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 78%. Dew Point: -12.0°C. Windchill: -9.0°C. Pressure: 30.26 in 1025 hPa (Falling).
14:25 rambutan @wunder 64507
14:14 kf big lake :)
14:14 tcohen kf, now i understand!
14:12 * tcohen_ is looking in gmaps
14:11 kf and can't wait for the days to get longer now :) tired of foggy winter in Konstanz
14:10 kf we got snow and ice here
14:10 kf darkness :)
14:10 tcohen_ cold and darness?
14:09 kf tcohen: I am fine - hoping the cold and darkness will go away soon
14:08 tcohen_ its been a while kf, how have u been?
14:08 slef kf: they're currently scheduled for every 6 days, but human-scheduled not cron.
14:06 kf hi tcohen
14:01 tcohen_ hi #koha
13:37 kf we can use the time to really fill up his queue
13:37 kf but it's cool
13:37 kf maybe he smuggled in some bonuses
13:36 kf oleonard: I agree :)
13:36 oleonard what's all this about the RM getting a vacation? I don't think that's in the contract.
13:35 kf so now the question is if they can really not see the button for all users or only not for staff users
13:34 kf the file i was looking at earlier in git was the wrong one... apparently
13:34 kf 3.6.10 has can_user_staffaccess
13:34 kf I just found it
13:34 kf oleonard: yep
13:32 oleonard kf: Do they have permission to edit patrons?
13:28 oleonard kf: I just checked out 3.6.x and tried it with a superlibrarian and non-superlibrarian and saw the password button either way
13:28 jcamins_away (i.e. the "permissions" permission)
13:28 jcamins_away Maybe permissions?
13:24 kf but I have no superlibrarian and I can see it.
13:24 kf it shows up when we activate superlibrarian for the staff member
13:24 jcamins_away I thought you meant OPAC.
13:24 jcamins_away Permissions?
13:24 jcamins_away Hm.
13:23 kf in staff?
13:23 jcamins_away kf: changing the password is disabled by syspref?
13:23 kf http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=blob;f=koha-tmpl/intranet-tmpl/prog/en/includes/members-toolbar.inc;h=91d179e60a4f1c69d5f630e9f395733bc345084c;hb=36431ed14abfac7c1af94f2e48dc4e37ef3c8f45
13:23 kf looking at the code in git but I can't see a reason right now :(
13:23 kf does someone know a reason why the password change button would not be shown in koha 3.6.10?
13:23 kf hi oleonard
13:17 oleonard Hi #koha
13:17 cait_lunch slef: drojf was wondering when you sent them, he was waiting for a new list :)
12:31 vfernandes KOHA_HOME/bin/batchRebuildBiblioTables.pl -> that's the script you're looking for
12:31 vfernandes batchRebuildBiblioTables.pl
12:31 gerundio off to lunch now
12:30 gerundio vfernandes++
12:30 gerundio I'll look for that rebuild something script
12:30 gerundio I don't fit the description :D
12:30 gerundio I'm not the person for it... you mention "anyone with more UNIMARC knowlegdes than me"
12:30 gerundio regarding your plugin for authorities
12:29 vfernandes *starts
12:29 vfernandes but it stats with rebuild
12:29 gerundio nice, that'll save me a lot of work :D
12:29 vfernandes I don't remember the name
12:29 vfernandes when you change a mapping you need to run it
12:28 vfernandes there is a script for that
12:28 gerundio what's your opinion?
12:28 gerundio I'm thinking that a script to perform this operation for mapped fields would be very handy
12:28 gerundio on update the value is moved from the more_subfields_xml to the stocknumber collumn
12:27 gerundio when I create the map, the value remains there until I update the record (I'm guessing this one)
12:27 gerundio without the map for the stocknumber the values are stored in the more_subfields_xml collumn in the items table
12:25 gerundio now I want to map the inventory number (stocknumber field in the items table) to 995j
12:25 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8334 enhancement, P1 - high, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Authority UNIMARC 100 field plugin
12:25 vfernandes bug 8334
12:25 vfernandes talking about plugins - a plugin for authorities field 100 in UNIMARC would be nice
12:24 gerundio barcode is already mapped to field 995f like we talked last week
12:23 gerundio I have a doubt concerning Koha to MARC mapping
12:23 gerundio btw, I'm going to start using the plugins to generate barcodes and inventory numbers
12:22 gerundio thanks
12:22 vfernandes as soon as possible :)
12:19 gerundio vfernandes take a look at it since it relates to you own bug
12:19 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9453 enhancement, P1 - high, ---, rolando.isidoro, Needs Signoff , Update records acording to the new UNIMARCField100Language system preference
12:19 gerundio bug 9453 needs sign off
12:05 slef cait_lunch: it's a random selection of old bugs
11:46 vfernandes magnuse thanks... i had already found it
11:29 huginn magnuse: A classification number from a scheme not covered by one of the other number fields. The field should not be used for classification numbers assigned from a source for which a subfield $2 source of number code would not be assigned. (Repeatable) [a,b,2,6,8]
11:29 magnuse @marc 084
11:27 gerundio it's always the most basic stuff that we miss :s
11:27 gerundio the koha user didn't have permissions to read the paths set on the configurations
11:27 kf makes sense :)
11:26 kf ah
11:26 gerundio back... found the origin off the daemon issue I was experiencing: permissions
11:26 magnuse vfernandes: http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Git_bz_configuration#Signing_off :-)
11:25 kf coudl that be a reason?
11:25 kf the daemon script
11:25 kf I think there is a user/group noted in there
11:25 kf have you taken a look at the file?
11:25 kf hm
11:07 gerundio for both root and koha users
11:07 gerundio KOHA_CONF is correctly set in the environment variables too
11:04 gerundio but when I start the daemon he's looking for the file in /etc/koha-conf.xml
11:04 gerundio kf maybe you can help with this one... any idea why I have a path set on KOHA_CONF in /etc/init.d/koha-zebra-daemon
11:03 gerundio I/O warning : failed to load external entity "/etc/koha/koha-conf.xml"
11:02 gerundio let me check the logs to see if I find anything there
11:02 gerundio and now it just doesn't start
11:02 kf any questons unanswered?
11:02 kf um
11:02 gerundio yes
11:01 kf crazy day here
11:01 vfernandes but when you stop the daemon the zebra proccess is closed?
11:01 gerundio I've stop and started it many times
11:00 gerundio that's just strange, because all the variables are set in the daemon itself in /etc/init.d/koha-zebra-daemon
11:00 vfernandes maybe the zebra was already runnig
10:59 vfernandes looks like problems with system variables
10:59 gerundio as KOHA_CONF was /etc/koha-conf.xml and so on
10:58 gerundio the arguments on the daemon show the defaults production like environment settings
10:58 gerundio but when I run start the daemon and check it via "ps aux | grep zebra"
10:58 gerundio poiting to the path where I have untared the koha package
10:57 gerundio the koha-zebra-daemon settings such as KOHA_CONF, RUNDIR and LOCKDIR all have the correct values
10:56 gerundio weird thing happening... I'm trying to set up the zebra daemon on the new dev koha install
10:54 vfernandes gerundio++
10:54 gerundio vfernandes++
10:53 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7973 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Signed Off , Allow for new type of LDAP authentication
10:53 vfernandes gerundio - bug 7973 signed off
10:52 vfernandes can I put the first patch obsolete?
10:51 vfernandes but now there is two patches
10:51 vfernandes that's it
10:49 vfernandes git commit --amend
10:48 drojf better look at the wiki, i dont have a git here
10:47 drojf and then attach it
10:47 drojf vfernandes: git commit --amend -s (i think)
10:46 kf on phone
10:46 kf still at phone
10:46 vfernandes i've tested... but now I want to commit the signed off
10:46 drojf test it ;)
10:45 vfernandes damn I forgot how to signed off using git.... git bz apply XXXX and then?
10:39 kf sorry lots of phone calls today
10:38 gerundio that's the one I patched and vfernandes tested and is about to sign off
10:38 gerundio kf, not LDAP
10:35 vfernandes bug 8347
10:35 kf vfernandes: that was the ldap patch or soemthing else?
10:34 vfernandes so he gone to the bug page, commented and signed off the patch
10:33 vfernandes everything worked fine but he didn't know how to sign off the patch without git
10:33 vfernandes he apply the patch by hand (not using git) and tested
10:32 vfernandes eheh
10:32 kf can you repeat the question you had?
10:32 kf and I still might be :)
10:32 kf sorry, got confused
10:32 kf am ok
10:32 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8347 enhancement, P1 - high, ---, vfernandes, Signed Off , Koha forces UNIMARC 100 field code language to 'fre'
10:31 vfernandes kf gerundio is testing my patch for bug 8347... i'm testing his patch for LDAP bug
10:31 kf so I think any test is good
10:31 kf but we don't have a lot of people who can test ldap patches
10:30 kf and then RM /QA can decide if another sign-off is needed
10:30 kf you could download the patch and sign-off manually, but tell what you did
10:30 kf maybe not eon the bug the tests you did
10:30 kf hm
10:27 gerundio np kf, thanks :)
10:26 kf reading back now
10:26 kf sorry gerundio was not really here
10:25 gerundio lets see what happens know
10:25 wahanui well, signed off is the queue the QA team should watch
10:25 gerundio signed off
10:20 vfernandes i will sign off your LDAP patch in a few minutes
10:20 vfernandes please sign off that patch... UNIMARC should be improved in Koha
10:19 vfernandes it should work in 3.8. too
10:19 gerundio and it worked fine too
10:19 vfernandes *and with master code (future 3.12)
10:19 gerundio I'm using 3.8.5
10:19 vfernandes wait... I've tested in 3.8.6 and in master code
10:18 vfernandes last version...
10:17 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8347 enhancement, P1 - high, ---, vfernandes, Needs Signoff , Koha forces UNIMARC 100 field code language to 'fre'
10:17 gerundio vfernandes, in what koha version did you develop your patches for bug 8347?
10:17 vfernandes :)
10:17 vfernandes LDAP auth worked fine gerundio
10:17 gerundio kf, jcamins_away, magnuse is my test valide this way?
10:17 vfernandes I don't know how to sign off patches without git
10:15 gerundio with patch -p1 < patch.diff and so on
10:15 gerundio I downloaded the diff files and applyed them by hand
10:15 gerundio I didn't use git to test it
10:14 gerundio I'm looking at the sign-off on patches article in the wiki
10:14 gerundio ok
10:13 vfernandes I think you should create a new bug and add the script as patch
10:12 gerundio script yes
10:12 vfernandes yes I think is useful to correct the previous submitted records
10:12 vfernandes as patch you mean script right?
10:11 gerundio I thought it could be useful to the community (it was for us)
10:11 gerundio btw, I made a patch to update the 100a field on all the existing records in the DB
10:11 vfernandes really? i will change that
10:10 gerundio I just found it weird to see the version assigned in the bug as being 3.10
10:10 gerundio I know
10:08 vfernandes the bug is on every version of Koha
10:08 vfernandes i think it's very important to have those patches submitted soon as possible to master and to 3.8.9 and 3.10.3
10:08 gerundio btw, you made it for Koha v3.10?
10:07 vfernandes nice :)
10:07 gerundio tested it yesterday
10:07 gerundio and I'm signing off your UNIMARC field 100 language patch
10:06 gerundio ok
10:06 vfernandes the difference is that I done the first bind with principal name
10:06 vfernandes because the modification that I've done in my koha it's almost the same thing
10:04 vfernandes i'll try to sign off the patch today
10:04 vfernandes roger that :)
10:02 gerundio I don't recall the details of the implementation, a lot of water has passed under the bridge since I did it :D
10:01 gerundio the way I coded the patch both ways should work
10:01 gerundio and the way the LDAP auth was being done in Koha it didn't work
10:00 gerundio we use it in our faculty
10:00 vfernandes yes I know
10:00 gerundio in LDAP authentication
10:00 gerundio anonymous bind is very common
09:57 vfernandes why you did a anonymous bind when you can do a bind with the principal name and the password set in the koha-conf.xml
09:56 vfernandes i have one question
09:56 vfernandes nice... i was looking for your LDAP patch
09:55 gerundio hey vfernandes, yes
09:55 vfernandes gerundio are you here?
09:52 vfernandes hi :)
09:51 wahanui hey, vfernandes
09:51 vfernandes hello
09:49 magnuse that is one downside to having sessions in memcached...
09:49 rangi *nod*
09:49 magnuse ok, better wait until this evening then, so i don't throw aout everyone who might be logged in
09:48 rangi yup
09:47 magnuse rangi: that will affect all instances, right?
09:46 rangi flush_all
09:46 kf hm more results than I expected, but they don't look helpful
09:46 rangi it would probably be easier to just run flush
09:46 huginn kf: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7412 enhancement, P3, ---, matthias.meusburger, Pushed to Master , Pre-filling items in cataloging
09:46 huginn kf: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6018 enhancement, PATCH-Sent (DO NOT USE), ---, julian.maurice, In Discussion , Batch modifitcation of items Enchancements
09:46 huginn kf: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=3162 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, ASSIGNED , Authority subfileds definitions and Show/Show Collapsed/Hide option
09:46 huginn kf: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=3142 normal, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , standardize how OPAC and staff determine requestability
09:46 kf @query tagslib
09:46 kf magnuse: hmmm I think I saw a patch for something with tagslib
09:45 rangi stats items
09:45 magnuse how do i know whic key to delete?
09:44 rangi http://blog.elijaa.org/index.php?post/2010/05/21/Memcached-telnet-command-summary
09:44 rangi you can telnet to it and delete the key
09:44 magnuse and $tagslib always seems to be involved
09:44 magnuse i get errors like Can't use string ("") as a HASH ref while "strict refs" in use at /usr/share/koha/lib/C4/Biblio.pm line 1555.
09:44 magnuse something related to the frameworks
09:43 rangi do you know what bit is bad?
09:43 magnuse rangi: am i right in thinking that in order to clear up bad data in memcached for one koha instance i have to restart memcached completely?
09:42 kf [off] right
09:42 rangi [off] where is the point in getting a trademark in nz .. it doesnt have to make sense for them to do it :)
09:41 kf [off] where is the point in denying that?
09:41 rangi [off] yep on wikipedia
09:41 kf [off] they denied that?
09:40 rangi [off] tell me again how you arent a defence contractor
09:39 kf oh
09:38 rangi [off] http://www.prweb.com/releases/prwebptfs/dia-sia-II-contract/prweb10350371.htm
09:35 kf seems drojf has bad internet again
09:35 kf hm
09:15 magnuse any memcached experts around? it seems one of my installations has bad data in it's cache. is it possible to empty the cache for that instance and not for the others?
08:54 kf paul_p: also a good idea
08:54 kf or coudl be an entry on kc-org too maybe
08:54 kf maybe koha mailing list again and the newsletter?
08:54 paul_p (I plan to send a mail to turkish guy that announced 1112 libraries migrating ;-) )
08:53 paul_p kf= it's a good idea. How could we do that ?
08:53 kf paul_p: I was talking to magnuse earlier about maybe advertising the hackfest in europe a bit more?
08:52 kf hope you feel better soon
08:52 kf very fortunate
08:52 paul_p hello kf. In bed with flu today (fortunately for you, it can't be sent by IRC)
08:51 kf morning paul_p
08:50 reiveune hi kf
08:50 kf hi Joubu and reiveune
08:49 reiveune hello
08:49 Joubu hello #koha
08:43 kf not sure mumbai counts
08:42 magnuse :-)
08:42 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Mumbai, India is 29.0°C (1:40 PM IST on January 23, 2013). Conditions: Smoke. Humidity: 51%. Dew Point: 18.0°C. Pressure: 29.92 in 1013 hPa (Falling).
08:42 magnuse @wunder mumbai
08:42 kf hm ok... marseille wins :)
08:41 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Marseille, France is 7.0°C (9:30 AM CET on January 23, 2013). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 81%. Dew Point: 4.0°C. Windchill: 3.0°C. Pressure: 29.50 in 999 hPa (Rising).
08:41 magnuse @wunder marseille
08:41 magnuse :-/
08:38 kf I win :)
08:38 huginn kf: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is -3.0°C (9:20 AM CET on January 23, 2013). Conditions: Light Snow Showers. Humidity: 80%. Dew Point: -6.0°C. Windchill: -8.0°C. Pressure: 29.89 in 1012 hPa (Steady).
08:38 kf @wunder boo
08:38 huginn kf: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is -0.9°C (9:35 AM CET on January 23, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 96%. Dew Point: -1.0°C. Windchill: -1.0°C. Pressure: 29.68 in 1005 hPa (Steady).
08:38 kf @wunder Konstanz
08:36 magnuse w00t! :-)
08:36 drojf magnuse: still warmer at your place ;)
08:36 huginn drojf: The current temperature in Prenzlauer Berg, Berlin, Germany is -5.3°C (9:12 AM CET on January 23, 2013). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 68%. Dew Point: -10.0°C. Windchill: -8.0°C. Pressure: 29.83 in 1010 hPa (Steady).
08:36 drojf @wunder berlin, germany
08:17 schnydszch so they can easily see the accession no./barcode from the search result instead of clicking the corresponding item
08:16 schnydszch is for the staffs
08:16 schnydszch ok magnuse, got it. actually the barcode if for the staffs.
08:16 kf back
08:06 magnuse hiya gaetan_B
08:04 wahanui what's up, gaetan_B
08:04 gaetan_B hello
08:02 magnuse could have been worse, though :-)
08:02 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Roros Lufthavn, Norway is -28.0°C (8:50 AM CET on January 23, 2013). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 70%. Dew Point: -32.0°C. Pressure: 29.89 in 1012 hPa (Steady).
08:02 magnuse @wunder rrs
08:02 huginn magnuse: Error: No such location could be found.
08:02 magnuse @wunder folldal, norway
08:02 huginn magnuse: Error: No such location could be found.
08:02 magnuse @wunder folldal
08:02 magnuse and lots more white stuff is supposed to arrive in the coming week...
08:01 magnuse it's suddenly turned white...
08:01 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is -4.0°C (8:50 AM CET on January 23, 2013). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 86%. Dew Point: -6.0°C. Windchill: -7.0°C. Pressure: 29.89 in 1012 hPa (Steady).
08:01 magnuse @wunder boo
07:58 drojf how is the summer going? :)
07:58 drojf hei magnuse
07:58 magnuse hiya drojf
07:57 drojf good morning #koha
07:52 magnuse schnydszch: it shows the barcode as text, not as an image. and the barcode in the example i gave is simply "1"
07:47 cait bbl :)
07:38 cait normally users have no use for barcodes
07:38 cait schnydszch: that only applies to 3.10 and the detail page
07:36 alex_a bonjour
07:34 schnydszch thanks magnuse. but i can't seem see the barcode from your example.
07:15 cait morning magnuse :)
07:15 cait rangi++ :)
07:11 magnuse rangi++ for 3.10.2 and 3.8.9!!
07:03 magnuse and good morning #koha
07:01 magnuse on the holdings tab there is a column for barcode
07:01 magnuse but 3.10 has a setting called OPACShowBarcode which shows the barcode in the detail view. example here: http://head.bibkat.no/cgi-bin/koha/opac-detail.pl?biblionumber=1
07:00 magnuse schnydszch: showing barcodes in result lists is not possible in any version
06:54 schnydszch hello koha community, is it possible with koha 3.8.x to show barcodes of biblios in the results page? or there's some code to be added? thanks & good day.
06:48 cait good morning #koha
02:56 wizzyrea then again, you could just shout "Opa!" and be greek.
02:55 wizzyrea probably not so yummy whilst on fire.
02:55 wizzyrea also I think I have had this cheese, it's pretty yummy.
02:55 wizzyrea it burned for 4 days!
02:54 wizzyrea holy smoked gouda!
02:54 eythian 27 tons of cheese on fire!
02:54 eythian http://www.nytimes.com/2013/01/23/world/europe/norway-cheese-fire-shuts-tunnel.html?_r=0
02:54 wizzyrea eythian: what is it?
02:53 wizzyrea maybe not to that precise degree.
02:53 wizzyrea I am sure I'll get my comeuppance :)
02:53 wizzyrea brr
02:50 druthb It is colder than a mother-in-law's kiss here today. *shiver*
02:49 eythian http://imgur.com/VKSSBpi
02:49 druthb Miss this, wizzyrea?
02:49 huginn druthb: The current temperature in Lawrence Live-Courtesy of the Khoury's, Lawrence, Kansas is -3.8°C (8:47 PM CST on January 22, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 58%. Dew Point: -11.0°C. Windchill: -4.0°C. Pressure: 30.33 in 1027 hPa (Rising).
02:49 druthb @wunder 66046
02:45 rangi heh
02:41 wizzyrea I approve.
02:41 huginn wizzyrea: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 21.0°C (3:00 PM NZDT on January 23, 2013). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 73%. Dew Point: 16.0°C. Pressure: 30.18 in 1022 hPa (Steady).
02:41 wizzyrea @wunder wellington, nz
02:18 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9343 minor, P5 - low, ---, adrien.saurat, Pushed to Master , SIP doesn't handle debarred date/status correctly
02:18 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9263 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, fridolyn.somers, Pushed to Master , Trim barcodes in offline circulation
02:18 jenkins_koha * adrien.saurat: Bug 9343: handles the new format of Debarred
02:18 jenkins_koha * fridolyn.somers: Bug 9263: Trim barcodes in offline circulation
02:18 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #1021: SUCCESS in 1 hr 6 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/1021/
02:16 * jcamins wanders off.
02:15 jcamins Heh.
02:14 * rangi adds them to his backlog of things to test
02:13 rangi sweet
02:12 jcamins Submitted my caching patches.
02:08 rangi hey bag
02:06 bag evening
01:24 rangi hehe
01:24 eythian http://www.reddit.com/r/AskReddit/comments/172rp9/comedians_of_reddit_what_is_the_worst_joke_youve/
01:24 wizzyrea soren's is "x rolled down the hall and ran into a rock"
01:23 rangi who even
01:23 rangi the whole changes daily, but it's always did a fart
01:23 wizzyrea loool
01:22 rangi bwahahaha
01:22 rangi door did a fart
01:22 wahanui rumour has it door is 6 months old,
01:22 wizzyrea door who?
01:22 rangi door
01:22 wahanui there is a lot of clean up that could be done.
01:22 wizzyrea who's there
01:22 jcamins lol
01:22 rangi knock knock
01:22 rangi here's one from atarau
01:22 wizzyrea ^^ the ultimate hipster.
01:22 eythian heard that one already
01:22 rangi he drank his coffee before it was cool
01:22 wizzyrea >.> idk why
01:21 rangi why did the hipster burn his mouth?
01:21 wizzyrea j/k j/k
01:21 wizzyrea guess we're not trendy enough
01:20 * wizzyrea approves
01:19 wahanui https://i.chzbgr.com/maxW500/6984227072/h33EFA2F6/
01:19 rangi wahanui: u mad?
01:19 * wizzyrea giggles
01:19 bag rangi awesome!
01:19 wahanui http://02varvara.files.wordpress.com/2011/04/01-how-about-no-bear.jpg?w=800
01:19 rangi wahanui: we should use more MARC
01:13 wizzyrea boot*
01:13 wizzyrea golly I sure do like how koha looks with some boostrap elements.
01:12 jenkins_koha Starting build #1021 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS)
01:11 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Merge branch 'bug_9343' into 3.12-master <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=36431ed14abfac7c1af94f2e48dc4e37ef3c8f45> / Bug 9343: handles the new format of Debarred <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=58494beb7949d57d9b84784edc3e55848192eff8> / Merge branch 'bug_9263' into 3.12-master <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=8c418b26a7f3923c8
01:10 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9407 minor, P5 - low, ---, mjr, Pushed to Master , patrons search should match substrings
01:10 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7678 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, julian.maurice, Pushed to Master , Statistics wizard: patrons
01:10 jenkins_koha * mjr: Bug 9407: patrons search should match substrings
01:10 jenkins_koha * julian.maurice: Bug 7678: Adds extended patron attributes in patron reports
01:10 jenkins_koha * julian.maurice: Bug 7678: follow-up to pass QA
01:10 jenkins_koha * matthias.meusburger: Bug 7678: Adds extended patron attributes in patron reports
01:10 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #1020: SUCCESS in 1 hr 6 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/1020/
01:06 wahanui hmmm... there is a lot of clean up that could be done.
01:06 jcamins there?
01:06 wahanui okay, jcamins.
01:06 jcamins Unfortunately, there is also one good reason s/he shouldn't: half the pages don't work.
01:05 jcamins There are many good reasons the RM should use Plack.
00:43 * jcamins grouses.
00:42 tweetbot` [off] twitter: @kohails: "#kohails Koha 3.8.9 released http://t.co/9QIzXIGZ"
00:40 jcamins Returns is not Plack-compatible?!?
00:37 wizzyrea herp derp derp
00:37 * wizzyrea catches up
00:36 wizzyrea it's the only one that has that
00:36 wizzyrea koha copyright. lulz.
00:36 jcamins Definitely a fork.
00:36 wizzyrea uga*
00:36 rangi yeah
00:36 wizzyrea re: geagua
00:36 * wizzyrea was just thinking that
00:36 wizzyrea right right
00:36 rangi (its the fork not koha btw too)
00:36 rangi it was more the copyright thingy
00:35 wizzyrea i think they are creating a new consortium, is what it looks like to me
00:35 rangi innovative are confused
00:34 rangi wtf http://www.librarytechnology.org/ltg-displaytext.pl?RC=17598
00:21 jcamins Then I will try to run the script again.
00:21 jcamins Right now I'm trying to get some overdues to show up.
00:21 jcamins Maybe not.
00:21 jcamins Hm.
00:20 rangi you ran it with bash eh?
00:18 jcamins And there seems to be a syntax error in the script.
00:18 jcamins Which are entirely non-functional on Plack systems.
00:18 wizzyrea *nod*
00:18 jcamins Such as the overdue notices...
00:05 jcamins Most of the patches that have passed QA are patches that are unpleasant to test.
00:05 jcamins Oh, yay.
00:05 jenkins_koha Starting build #1020 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS)
00:01 melia ok marking resolved :)
00:01 jcamins Or, at least, it's incomprehensible, so it's of no use.
00:01 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Merge branch 'bug_9407' into 3.12-master <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=8e7e987c038a86091d4feebf887cc4f76f1d793e> / Bug 9407: patrons search should match substrings <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=99e1fa291a9b465df7f6139e3fc077ae89674d2c> / Merge branch 'bug_7678' into 3.12-master <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=830f36607c9ae
00:01 jcamins Sounds like it.
00:00 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=3111 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Opac lists all ITYPES as same, when database lists different. Other OPAC issues.
00:00 melia can bug 3111 be closed? it appears to me by looking at the referenced links there that all of his old problems have been resolved