Time Nick Message 00:02 * jcamins needs something acidic to add to his potato korma a la Jared. 00:02 jcamins Tomatoes are out, as I have none. 00:03 wizzyrea lime juice 00:03 wizzyrea or lemon 00:03 bag ketchup (but that is too sweet - way too sweet) 00:03 jcamins Probably lemon juice. 00:03 wizzyrea fish sauce 00:03 wizzyrea if you have it 00:04 jcamins Of course! Amchur powder! 00:04 jcamins Silly Jared, how could you forget amchur powder? 00:04 wizzyrea amchur powder? 00:05 wizzyrea hm green mangoes, dried and ground. 00:05 wizzyrea interestng 00:05 wizzyrea but yes that may well be perfect. 00:06 jcamins Plus a wee bit of lemon juice. 00:12 jcamins So this is really nothing like potato korma. 00:12 jcamins But it should be pretty delicious. 00:51 rangi random food friday! 00:52 jcamins rangi: exactly, except it's Thursday. 00:52 rangi not in the proper hemisphere :) 00:53 wizzyrea hehe 00:53 * jcamins thinks tcohen would disagree if he were at home. :P 00:56 rangi http://drinkswithchunks.blogspot.co.nz/2007/02/nostalgia-drink-soojeonggwa.html 00:57 jcamins lol 00:57 cjh_ that cracker stuff has an odd aftertaste 00:59 cjh_ and liz has http://drinkswithchunks.blogspot.co.nz/2007/04/nostalgia-drink-shikhye.html 00:59 cjh_ her drink has chunks! 00:59 cjh_ s/liz/wizzyrea/ 00:59 eythian the first one contains rambutan, who is unfortunately offline 01:00 rangi http://www.amazon.com/Nong-Shim-Peanut-Sweet-Cracker/dp/B003ECY2PA i got these too 01:00 jcamins Wait... 01:00 jcamins Are you _drinking_ that? 01:00 jcamins Awesome! 01:01 cjh_ 'sweet & delicious' and he found it, ten points to rangi 01:01 eythian drinking/eating...it's a fine line. 01:01 rangi yeah you have to find something that has the minimum amount of english 01:01 wizzyrea what, the chunky drink? 01:01 rangi 0 is the best 01:01 wizzyrea sec I'll take a pic 01:01 cjh_ random food friday, I might have to try and get an ice block. 01:01 cjh_ although hopefully bean free this time. 01:01 eythian it's not random it you've planned it 01:03 wizzyrea no, it's not the planning of random food friday that's random 01:03 wizzyrea it's what you pick ;) 01:03 cjh_ \o/ 01:03 wizzyrea also, the mochi things are yum. 01:03 wizzyrea despite their odd squishiness 01:04 wizzyrea and red bean filling 01:04 jcamins What mochi things? 01:04 cjh_ :( 01:04 wizzyrea which I've always found odd. 01:04 rangi http://www.flickr.com/photos/ranginui/8343341927/in/photostream <-- my haul 01:05 eythian wahanui: good night is <reply>\I watch you sleep. 01:05 wahanui OK, eythian. 01:05 eythian wahanui: good night 01:05 wahanui I watch you sleep. 01:05 * jcamins initially thought that your "random food Friday" comment was in response to my failure to make anything like the recipe I started with. 01:06 wizzyrea jcamins: i don't know, there's no english on my package. 01:06 jcamins wizzyrea: picture? 01:06 wizzyrea oh yes 01:06 wizzyrea try facebook :P 01:07 wizzyrea or instagram. but you'd have to be approved by me for that. 01:09 jcamins The mochi things are in your drink? 01:09 * jcamins thought it was a mochi pastry type thing. 01:10 jcamins One of our dinner guests for Sunday tends to bring that sort of thing. 01:14 rangi http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gmlR5eG9zP4 01:14 rangi just because 01:17 jcamins lol 01:22 eythian https://github.com/munificent/vigil <-- this is how test cases should work 01:23 jcamins lol 01:23 jcamins That's awesome! 01:33 jcamins Well, that ended up nothing like potato korma, but it was delicious so I am satisfied. 01:37 jcamins After working with Perl so much, I'm finding my response to using autotools+C is "what a nuisance." 01:45 eythian http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=38538 <-- that's certainly an issue 02:02 tweetbot` [off] twitter: @andisugandi: "Pagi ini dapat 1 bug di Koha 3.10.1 → http://t.co/VWzhBnWR , jadi tunda upgrade ke 3.10.x :( | #Koha #KohaILS" 02:15 jcamins eythian: do I remember you saying that Ubuntu's new interface can be made usable? 02:15 eythian I use it, if that's what you mean :) 02:16 eythian depends exactly how you want it to be. I tend to do things like make it autohide, and sometimes turn off the global menu. 02:16 jcamins eythian: mostly I would like to be able to scroll. 02:17 jcamins The display is 800x600, which means that there is exactly nothing at all that doesn't require scrolling. 02:17 eythian actually, if you look how it works, that's become easier in general. The scrollbar appears wherever the mouse is when it's near the edge. 02:17 eythian in 12.10 anyway, not 12.04 02:18 jcamins Ah, I don't think I've updated to 12.10 yet. 02:19 eythian in 12.04 it appears where the little orange bar is. Though you can still click to page, which is nice. 02:19 jcamins And considering how often I feel the need to use this VM, I don't think I'll bother. 02:19 eythian but it's a bit more sensitive to falling off the edge, which is annoying 02:21 eythian soemthing along the lines of sudo apt-get remove overlay-scrollbar liboverlay-scrollbar-0.2-0 liboverlay-scrollbar3-0.2-0 should remove them entirely if that's preferable. 02:28 * jcamins figures out why Safari refuses to report my website. 02:29 eythian jcamins: when you have subjects of the form: "Truck farming - New Zealand - History.", how is that represented in MARC? 02:29 eythian I'm sure I knew this, but I can't find an example with it in 02:29 jcamins 650 0_ $aTruck farming$yNew Zealand$xHistory. 02:29 jcamins Possibly _0 02:29 jcamins I always get the indicators confused. 02:29 jcamins And, what's a truck farm? 02:30 eythian where do you think utes come from? 02:30 eythian later on, they grow into lorries. 02:30 jcamins Heh. 02:30 jcamins That would've been more effective if I hadn't that that a "Ute" was a member of an American Indian tribe. 02:31 eythian heh 02:31 jcamins Whoah, nice! 02:31 jcamins Avahi is kind of amazing. 02:31 eythian yeah, it doesn't get used nearly enough 02:31 jcamins I never knew what it was before. 02:32 eythian would Public sculpture - New Zealand - Wellington. get the same separation? 02:33 jcamins $aPublic sculpture$yNew Zealand$yWellington. 02:33 eythian oh. well that's going to be annoying. I have no information on what is a place and what's not 02:33 wahanui not is maybe removed from my search 02:33 eythian wahanui: forget me not 02:33 wahanui eythian, I didn't have anything matching me not 02:40 wizzyrea jcamins: no no, the mochi isn't in my drink 02:41 wizzyrea the mochi things are in my tummy. 02:41 wizzyrea and I didn't get a pic really 02:41 wizzyrea well I did actually, a bit earlier on facebook 02:42 jcamins I only see two pictures of your drink on Facebook. :( 02:51 jcamins Why don't we use Avahi more? 02:52 wizzyrea because cross species intermingling is frowned upon? 02:53 jcamins We could use Avahi in a Linux-only environment. 02:53 wizzyrea i like how you deftly avoided that. 02:53 jcamins Thank you. 03:04 jcamins A pity that Firefox doesn't have built-in support for Zeroconf. 03:06 eythian firefox is a bit too end-usery, but an addon would be handy. 03:06 eythian http://www.trademe.co.nz/Members/Listings.aspx?member=4459032 <-- them some expensive hangers 03:07 jcamins eythian: I'm thinking about a home Koha appliance. 03:07 jcamins Wow! 03:07 eythian ah right 03:08 wizzyrea why would you buy hangers on trademe 03:09 eythian cos it should be cheap 03:09 eythian (in theory) 03:09 wizzyrea having done quite a bit of trade on craigslist recently 03:10 wizzyrea people really do overvalue their things. 03:10 wizzyrea recently = in the last 6 months 03:10 wizzyrea (myself included) 03:10 eythian I think people don't know how to value them, you find some things crazy cheap. 03:10 wizzyrea right, there are some people "get this crap out of my sight" or "I just want to make a quick buck" 03:11 wizzyrea and there are people "I'm moving to another country and this stuff is nice you should pay a lot for it" 03:11 wizzyrea or <insert excuse here> you should pay a lot for it 03:11 jcamins lol 03:12 wizzyrea ok jcamins, the mystery drink is now on facebook, and the mochis 03:12 jcamins I saw. :D 03:12 eythian when you see a 486 on there for $2,000 you know some people just don't know what's going on 03:12 jcamins I've never had those. 03:12 jcamins eythian: it's an antique! 03:13 wizzyrea ^^^^^^^ 03:14 wizzyrea well that's how much they paid for it 15 years ago 03:14 eythian woo, beer o'clock 03:14 wizzyrea woo! 03:30 ibeardslee :( 04:32 eythian http://i.imgur.com/2Vwkn.jpg <-- I love Battlestar Galactica! 04:32 cjh_ that is awesome 04:32 jcamins lol 06:05 cait morning #koha 06:40 cait1 morning #koha 06:46 cjh_ cait: morning :) 06:46 cait hi cjh_ :) 06:46 cait shouldn't you be enjoying your weekend by now? :) 06:47 cjh_ i am :) 06:47 cait in #koha? :) 06:47 cjh_ where else, it is like a tropical paradise in here. 06:47 cjh_ still Friday in Germany :( almost there! 06:47 cait hehe 06:47 cait it's ok, I like fridays 06:48 cait it's when I get most my work done, because it's mostly quiet in the afternoons 06:48 cait well right now it's quiet anyway, because a lot of people are still away on their christmas vacation 06:48 cjh_ productivity \o/ 06:49 cjh_ this week has been especially unproductive, my brain is still on it's christmas holiday. 06:49 jcamins Yay! #koha is like a tropical paradise party... 06:49 * jcamins grumbles 06:49 cait why exactly are you here? 06:49 cait shouldn't you be sleeping? 06:49 jcamins I should be. 06:50 cjh_ having fun with git revert? 06:50 jcamins But I spent ~1.5 hours dealing with a leak in the kitchen. 06:50 jcamins The people above us punctured a pipe. 06:50 cjh_ :( 06:50 jcamins And flooded our kitchen and the kitchen below us. 06:51 jcamins Now I'm trying to finish the proposal I was almost done with at 11:45. 06:52 magnuse pizzaday! 06:54 cait ouch :( 06:54 jcamins magnuse: I suppose that's one way to help dry out the ceiling... run the oven at 500 degrees! 06:54 cait shouldn't you go to sleep and startover otmorrow morning? 06:54 cjh_ sleep is goooooddd 06:54 * magnuse is startled by the presence of jcamins at this hour 06:54 jcamins cait: I have to wait until the water stops dripping so that I can dry up the puddle on the top of the cabinets. 06:54 cjh_ >.< 06:55 magnuse jcamins: ouch! 06:55 jcamins It was a _lot_ of water. 06:55 cait :( 07:59 reiveune hello 08:16 francharb hello 08:17 Joubu hello #koha 08:17 magnuse bonjour france! 08:21 kf hi again #koha 08:30 magnuse weirdness: i have superlibrarian customer who sometimes gets logged out when she tries to edit sysprefs. anyone else heard of that? koha 3.8.8, sessions stored in the db 08:31 kf hm 08:31 kf i had that happenening 08:32 magnuse aha? 08:33 kf yeah... but I can't remember why and how I fixed it :( 08:34 magnuse kf: ouch ;-) 08:34 magnuse kia ora paul_p 08:34 kf bonjour paul_p 08:34 paul_p good morning #koha ! 08:45 Zeki hi, 08:45 kf hi Zeki 08:45 Zeki I have a problem with crontab for zebra indexing 08:46 Zeki after adding any catolog into koha crontab doesnot update the catolog 08:46 Zeki i have to manuly 08:47 Zeki i have to do manuly 08:47 magnuse kf: please let me know if you suddenly remember how you fixed it :-) 08:47 Zeki i followed this URL http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Koha_on_ubuntu_-_tarball 08:47 kf magnuse: I will 08:47 Zeki but no luck 08:48 kf Zeki: an easier way to install on ubuntu is using the packages 08:48 kf packages? 08:48 wahanui packages is, like, at http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Debian 08:48 kf for zebra check fi the file permissions are right 08:48 Zeki I checked they look fine 08:48 kf when you run the rebuild_zebra script manually with -v - you might be able to spot if there is an error 08:49 kf also, is your zebrasrv running? 08:49 Zeki sudo /usr/share/koha/bin/migration_tools/rebuild_zebra.pl –v –b –a 08:49 Zeki when i run the script 08:49 kf you shouldn't do that with sudo 08:49 Zeki it does not give any error 08:49 kf that will give you permission problems 08:50 kf the files have to belong to your koha user, not root 08:50 Zeki yes 08:51 Zeki I have webmin on my ubuntu server 08:52 Zeki I can check very easily 08:52 kf rerun the script without being root 08:52 kf and make sure the zebraserver is running. 08:52 kf i mean without sudo - as your koha user 08:52 Zeki when i use this script sudo /etc/init.d/koha-zebra-daemon start 08:53 Zeki it says "Starting Zebra Server 08:53 kf that's god 08:53 kf good 08:53 kf but still could be that it can't access the index 08:53 Zeki so I assume it is working 08:53 kf I think 08:53 kf did you rerun the index script without sudo? 08:54 Zeki what do you mean? 08:54 Zeki like this /usr/share/koha/bin/migration_tools/rebuild_zebra.pl –v –b –a 08:55 Zeki it is working fine 08:55 Zeki no error 08:55 kf did it update/index records? 08:55 Zeki yes 08:55 kf there should be a line with i/u/d 08:55 kf and search is still not working? 08:57 Zeki I am not sure about line 08:57 kf in the output of the zebra index script 08:57 Zeki but indexing looks fine 08:58 Zeki Zebra configuration information 08:58 Zeki Zebra biblio directory = /var/lib/koha/zebradb/biblios 08:58 Zeki Zebra authorities directory = /var/lib/koha/zebradb/authorities 08:58 kf is there any fatal? 08:58 Zeki Koha directory = /usr/share/koha/intranet/cgi-bin 08:58 Zeki no 08:59 kf hm can you check that zebra files are owned by the koha user? 08:59 Zeki BIBLIONUMBER in : 999$c 08:59 kf I think you did a standard installation, I am not quite sure about the path 08:59 Zeki one sec 08:59 kf also you can use paste to paste the output of the script 08:59 kf pastebin? 08:59 wahanui pastebin is, like, at http://paste.koha-community.org/ 09:01 pastebot "Zeki" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "Zebra configuration informatio" (27 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/335 09:02 kf ah right, I tink you need to v 09:02 kf it could be the user of your crontab is wrong 09:02 kf could you check the file again and make sure it's using your zebra user for running the script? 09:02 kf */10 * * * * __KOHA_USER__ $KOHA_CRON_PATH/../migration_tools/rebuild_zebra.pl -b -a -z >/dev/null 09:03 Zeki sudo nano /etc/cron.d/koha 09:03 Zeki I use this file 09:03 Zeki and added these lines 09:03 kf pastebin please :) 09:04 pastebot "Zeki" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "GNU nano 2.2.6 File: /etc/cron" (9 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/336 09:05 kf hm 09:05 kf looks ok 09:06 rangi just change >/dev/null 09:06 rangi to be | mailx your@email.address 09:06 rangi then you will get an email every 10 minutes if it is running, you could put a -v in there too 09:06 rangi and you will spot what is going wrong 09:06 kf maybe to -vv 09:07 kf I think they changed soemthing and the output he showed earlier was missing a lot of lines 09:07 rangi yeah bilibre again 09:07 rangi made -v not do much 09:08 rangi actually i lie 09:08 rangi it was dobrica 09:09 Zeki sorry kf 09:09 rangi ah no he added -v -v 09:09 Zeki I didnt get 09:09 rangi git blame is confusing me 09:09 Zeki what do you want me to try ? 09:11 magnuse Zeki: did you check zebra is running? "ps aux | grep zebra" 09:12 Zeki no 09:12 Zeki how to check it? 09:13 pastebot "Zeki" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "ps aux | grep zebra root 300 0" (4 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/337 09:14 Zeki is it this? 09:14 kf I think you said sarch was working 09:14 kf only the automatic indexing for new records is broken? 09:14 Zeki yeah 09:14 kf I think user in crontab still 09:14 kf might be wrong 09:15 kf are you running koha as user koha? 09:15 Zeki now user 09:15 Zeki but i can change to koha 09:15 kf */5 * * * * koha $KOHA_PATH/bin/migration_tools/rebuild_zebra.pl -b -a -z &> /dev/null < that's what you pasted, it says koha is the user 09:16 kf if you are using a different user to run koha, htis could be your problem 09:16 Zeki yes 09:17 pastebot "Zeki" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "koha@src-library:/root$ /usr/s" (34 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/338 09:17 Zeki it is working under the koha 09:18 Zeki it says some error 09:18 kf ah right 09:19 kf there you go, permissions 09:19 kf [warn] Failed to open /var/lib/koha/zebradb/biblios/register/sort154-0.mf [Permission denied] 09:21 Zeki koha "user and group" have permisoin for this folder /var/lib/koha/zebradb/biblios/register 09:22 Zeki inside folder there some files 09:23 Zeki some of them ovened by root 09:23 Zeki so you want me to change all the files 09:24 kf yes 09:24 kf no files owned by root - all by the koha user 09:24 Zeki or just sort154-0.mf ? 09:27 Zeki I changed allt he files root to koha 09:28 pastebot "Zeki" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "koha@src-library:/root$ /usr/s" (29 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/340 09:29 Zeki now looks no error 09:30 Zeki do I need to wait 5 min know which it is working or not ? 09:34 Zeki sorry kf 09:34 Zeki when I check the syslog i have these errors 09:35 pastebot "Zeki" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "Jan 4 17:31:01 src-library nul" (27 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/341 09:35 kf ah 09:35 Zeki it is related nullmailler 09:35 kf that looks like an email problem 09:36 kf i think change the crontab back 09:36 kf to not mail you 09:36 Zeki yeah ok 09:36 Zeki but is there way to solve this nullmailler problem? 09:37 kf sorry, I don't know nothing about nullmailer 09:37 Zeki yeah ok 09:37 Zeki thanks 09:46 magnuse kf++ 09:46 kf rangi++ 09:46 kf magnuse++ 09:47 rangi heh i didnt do anything 09:47 kf you know better 09:49 * magnuse didn't contribute much either 09:58 vfernandes hello :) 09:58 kf hi vfernandes 09:59 vfernandes kf thanks for the answer on my translation problem email... it helped me a lot 09:59 kf no problem, glad it helped 10:00 vfernandes 3.10 is 65% complete in portuguese... :) it's a good number 10:01 vfernandes OPAC and prefs are fully translated 10:06 kf woohoo! 10:06 kf you have been busy! 10:07 gerundio good morning 10:08 gerundio how are items indexing handled in Zebra? 10:09 gerundio our librarians updated some info by adding some missing barcodes 10:09 gerundio it's been a whole day now and the search by the barcode returns no results 10:09 kf how did they update them? 10:12 gerundio via the items editor in the intranet interface 10:12 kf hm ok 10:12 gerundio the cronjob comments for Zebra indexing states: # ZEBRA INDEX UPDATES with -z option, incremental index updates throughout the day for both authorities and bibs 10:13 kf yes 10:13 kf you could start by checking your zebraqueue table in the database 10:13 gerundio by bibs I think it means bibs and the respective items, right? 10:13 kf check if all entries are marked as done 10:13 kf 1 10:13 kf yes 10:13 kf item information is indexed together with bibliographic information 10:15 gerundio I have just one record with done = 0 10:15 kf hm 10:16 kf did you check the item record? 10:16 gerundio the last one with done = 1 is from 4 minutes ago 10:16 kf yeah, that looks like the job is working 10:16 gerundio it should be processed in 5 minutes or so 10:17 kf i woudl start testing with one test case 10:17 kf update the record again, see if it gets into zebraqueue, indexed.. search, etc. 10:19 gerundio the record looks like id = 108192 | biblio_auth_number = 49161 | operation = specialUpdate | server = biblioserver | done = 0 | time = 2013-01-04 10:11:40 10:19 gerundio can you tell me what do biblio_auth_number and operation collumns stand for? 10:20 kf it's the bibnumber or authority number 10:20 kf operatiion menas it was an update 10:20 kf not a delete or add 10:21 gerundio ok 10:21 gerundio so, that record with done = 0 has been updated several times in the last 2 days 10:21 gerundio it has only one item assigned to it and the search by its barcode works as expected 10:22 gerundio I've done a search on that table with the biblionumber for the item wich the barcode search doesn't work 10:23 gerundio the result was 4 rows on the last 3 days all done 10:25 gerundio weird behavior, don't really know what to look for 10:25 gerundio any idea? 10:26 kf it sounds perfectly normal 10:26 kf the question is why serach does not work 10:26 kf how are you doing the search? 10:29 gerundio basic catalag search on the intranet or opac 10:29 kf in keyword search? 10:29 gerundio see for yourself in our opac: https://opac.fct.unl.pt/ 10:30 kf is the title itself searchable? 10:30 gerundio search for 0015092 and you'll get one hit 10:30 gerundio search for 0015093 and you'll get none 10:31 kf gerundio: yes, I can see - what is the biblionumber of that record? 10:31 gerundio even though there is a item for this biblio with that barcode: https://opac.fct.unl.pt/cgi-bin/koha/opac-detail.pl?biblionumber=19216 10:32 gerundio a little off-topic: the item is checked out 10:32 kf that shouldn't matter 10:32 gerundio but when I search for Deitel (the author name), it shows 1 item 1 available 10:32 gerundio does it count as available if we can a place a hold for it? 10:33 gerundio if you search on opac for Deitel it's the 3rd result 10:33 gerundio it states Availability: Copies available: Biblioteca FCTUNL (1) 10:34 kf yeah, that's becasue the index has not been updated 10:34 gerundio but if you click on it, the item is checked out until the 18th 10:34 kf the information in the resul tlist is from zebra 10:34 gerundio ok 10:34 kf the detail page from the database 10:35 kf could you try something for testing? 10:35 kf move the item to another record 10:35 kf ah no 10:35 kf it's checked out 10:35 kf don't do that. 10:35 kf hm 10:36 kf sorry, running out of ideas 10:48 kf hm ok, that was weird 10:48 kf Finished one cherry-pick. 10:48 kf error: insufficient permission for adding an object to repository database .git/objects 12:01 kf @wunder Konstanz 12:01 huginn kf: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 6.3°C (12:55 PM CET on January 04, 2013). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 89%. Dew Point: 5.0°C. Windchill: 6.0°C. Pressure: 30.66 in 1038 hPa (Steady). 12:22 gerundio kf, still on the earlier zebra indexing problem 12:22 gerundio I still haven't been able to understand what might be originating that issue 12:22 kf :( 12:22 kf oh 12:22 gerundio but I just noticed that the last 4 records on the zebraqueue table have a future timestamp 12:23 kf oh! 12:23 gerundio do you know how that time value is added 12:23 gerundio server or client time? 12:23 kf not usre really 12:23 vfernandes I think it's server time 12:23 kf but you should clean old entries in that table regularly - there is a cronjob that can do that somewhere 12:24 gerundio vfernandes, that's what makes the most sense 12:24 gerundio but I can't figure out how those future timestamps showed up in there 12:24 gerundio kf, count at 48635 records 12:24 gerundio doesn't seem like that much to me 12:25 gerundio don't know if I have that job running in cron though 12:25 kf gerundio: seems quite a lot to me :) 12:26 kf gerundio: maybe try cleaning them up and see if that fixes the problem? 12:26 gerundio hmm, the job for zebraqueue cleanup is set to run daily at 1h16m 12:27 gerundio I'll be back to it after luch 12:27 gerundio my stomach is complaining too much 12:27 kf enjoy your lunch! 12:27 gerundio thanks for the help anyways :) 12:27 gerundio later then 12:50 vfernandes how to turn a patch obsolete? 12:51 vfernandes i've already find out :) 13:47 jenkins_koha Starting build #1002 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS) 13:49 kf hi druthb 13:50 druthb hi, kf. :) 13:51 oleonard Hi all 13:52 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Merge branch 'bug_8984' into 3.12-master <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=588a55a581cdedfb4962a0ef6418c81f6428a6ee> / Bug 8984: make Zebra more UNIMARC compliant <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=e86e3c24b841e7e79416d0ac55199f29bd9e8d1e> / Merge branch 'bug_8924' into 3.12-master <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=70487e8740efa5375e 13:52 magnuse hiya people of the west 13:53 libsysguy heya magnuse 13:54 magnuse hiya libsysguy 13:55 druthb Hi, magnuse. :) 13:55 magnuse hiya druthb 14:26 kf hi libsysguy 14:26 kf oh and hi oleonard .) 14:26 * oleonard offers kf an eye patch 14:27 druthb lol 14:27 kf better offer me a new shift key :) 14:27 druthb Smilies from Nick Fury: .) .( ,) 14:27 libsysguy hey kf 14:30 kf @wunder Konstanz 14:30 huginn kf: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 7.0°C (3:25 PM CET on January 04, 2013). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 88%. Dew Point: 5.0°C. Windchill: 7.0°C. Pressure: 30.60 in 1036 hPa (Steady). 14:30 kf getting warmer, weird 14:32 druthb @wunder 66046 14:32 huginn druthb: The current temperature in Lawrence Live-Courtesy of the Khoury's, Lawrence, Kansas is -5.9°C (8:30 AM CST on January 04, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 90%. Dew Point: -7.0°C. Windchill: -6.0°C. Pressure: 30.40 in 1029 hPa (Falling). 14:32 druthb We have not been much above freezing for three weeks now. 14:52 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #1002: SUCCESS in 1 hr 5 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/1002/ 14:52 jenkins_koha * Chris Cormack: Bug 9102 : Set HttpOnly on the CGISESSID cookie 14:52 jenkins_koha * jcamins: Bug 8924: Some modules erroneously skipped by 00-load 14:52 jenkins_koha * mathieu.saby: Bug 8984: make Zebra more UNIMARC compliant 14:52 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9102 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Needs Signoff , [SECURITY] We should set httponly on our session cookie 14:52 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8924 minor, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Pushed to Master , Some modules erroneously skipped by 00-load 14:52 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8984 normal, P5 - low, ---, mathieu.saby, Pushed to Master , Zebra does not index some fields in UNIMARC biblio records 14:55 gerundio kf, I've looked into the help of the cleanup_database.pl cronjob script 14:55 gerundio I see this argument is used with the value 10 in my cronjob --zebraqueue DAYS purge completed zebraqueue entries older than DAYS days. 14:56 gerundio the 48k records I have in zebraqueue table are probably the result of an inventory task performed to update the last seen value on a lot of our items 14:57 kf aah makes sense 14:57 gerundio now that I understand it I do agree with you... 48k is a lot :D 14:57 gerundio but yes, it makes sense 14:57 gerundio the only thing that still doesn't is that damn barcode search returning no results 14:58 kf maybe someone else around now has an idea 14:59 libsysguy druthb are you allowed to QA patches that are translation based? 15:00 gerundio I've just performed an advanced query on the intranet interface 15:00 druthb No one has told me that I'm not. Depending on what it is, I suppose, but the QAM might have a say-so in that. 15:00 gerundio with barcode = to the existing item barcode value and no result either 15:00 gerundio jcamins, aren't you the search expert? 15:01 libsysguy I was just running though my list of patches that needed QA and noticed a few string translation patches 15:01 kf hm I think that wasn't the case in the past 15:01 kf qaing I mean 15:01 kf I think I can try and look at them? 15:01 libsysguy I didn't think it was 15:01 libsysguy they are bug 9331 and 15:02 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9331 normal, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Signed Off , Untranslatable strings in ajax.js 15:02 kf but i would like druthb to be on the cc list for i18n and translate.kc.org bugs 15:02 druthb Since kf is not only QAM, but She-Who-Keeps-The-TM-Sane, she's probaby the best to QA them. 15:02 libsysguy bug 8942 15:02 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8942 normal, P5 - low, ---, frederic, Signed Off , Translation process breaks javascript in calendar.inc 15:02 jcamins gerundio: I am, yes. 15:02 jcamins What's up? 15:02 wahanui rumour has it up is the sky 15:03 libsysguy wahanui: forget up 15:03 wahanui libsysguy: I forgot up 15:03 jcamins Ah, barcode search isn't working. 15:03 jcamins Does bc= work? 15:03 gerundio try these yourself please 15:03 gerundio search for 0015092 in https://opac.fct.unl.pt/ 15:04 gerundio you'll get a hit for that search 15:04 gerundio but if your search 0015093, you should get another hit but you don't 15:04 gerundio even though there's an item with that barcode 15:04 gerundio I can't understand why :| 15:04 jcamins Have you rebuilt Zebra? 15:06 gerundio I have the cronjob running updating the zebra index every 10 minutes 15:06 gerundio default behavior, right? 15:06 jcamins Yes. 15:07 jcamins But once a record is missed, the cron jobs won't pick the record up when it reruns. 15:07 jcamins When your indexes get out of sync you have to do a full reindex. 15:07 gerundio ouch 15:08 gerundio guess that'll have to do 15:08 gerundio thanks for the heads up :D 15:08 gerundio jcamins++ 15:08 gerundio kf++ 15:54 gmcharlt @quote random 15:54 huginn gmcharlt: Quote #221: "I used to be sane like you, until I took a MARC data to the knee" (added by chrisc at 09:28 PM, October 23, 2012) 15:54 gmcharlt heh 15:54 libsysguy lol 15:54 libsysguy I like that one 16:01 reiveune bye 16:26 vfernandes anyone here? 16:26 vfernandes I'm having a strange problem 16:27 vfernandes the field 100 is happening in the authors facets 16:27 mmm45 i need some assistance too 16:28 mmm45 how do you delete or change an invoice number using mysql? 16:28 oleonard Why do you want to mmm45? 16:28 mmm45 one of the librarians made a mistake 16:29 mmm45 and i need to change the invoice number for her 16:30 mmm45 i am working on upgrading from the version of koha we are using right now 16:31 mmm45 but until then, with this version I believe the invoice number can be corrected only in the database 16:34 oleonard mmm45: I have no idea whether there are negative ramifications for doing it via mysql, but you would do it like this: 16:34 oleonard UPDATE `koha`.`aqinvoices` SET `invoicenumber` = '<num>' WHERE `aqinvoices`.`invoiceid` = <id>; 16:36 mmm45 would this work for the wrong version of Koha that I am using (3.9)? 16:37 kf everything pre 3.10 should work with that and it should be save (have done it in the past) 16:37 mmm45 awesome 16:37 kf maybe try with one first and check :) 16:37 kf oleonard++ 16:37 oleonard kf: Is there a reason why invoice number is not editable? Or just an oversight? 16:38 kf hm 16:38 kf bit hard to tell actually 16:38 kf I think the database structure is the problem 16:38 kf because you have the invoicenumber on order line level and not as a separate entity before 3.10 16:39 kf now we have shipments as a thing and I think it might be even editable now, i have not checked 16:40 kf in 3.9 the shipment information is on every order line, so you would have to update them altogether 16:40 kf does that make sense? 16:40 oleonard Yes 16:40 kf I think fixing it woudl not be trivial for older versions 16:40 mmm45 thank you so much for the help 16:41 gerundio I need a list of all the inventory number field which are stored in field 995 j 16:41 gerundio what's the best way to accomplish that? 16:43 kf gerundio: is it mapped to a field in items? 16:43 kf check your koha-to-marc-mapping sfirst 16:44 kf there is a field in items for inventory numbers, but it was not there from the beginning, so I think depending on how/when you installed it might be linked or not 16:44 kf if they are in items... it will be easier, if not, check the sql reports library for the xml syntax :) 16:44 kf sql reports library? 16:44 wahanui hmmm... sql reports library is at http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/SQL_Reports_Library 16:45 gerundio kf, I'll check the koha to marc mapping 1st then 16:48 kf bye all :) 16:48 gerundio the inventory number in the items table doesn't show up in the koha to marc mapping tool :| 16:48 gerundio guess xml syntax it is 16:48 gerundio bye kf 16:48 gerundio kf++ 16:49 gerundio thanks once more :) 17:00 Joubu bye ++ 17:27 libsysguy hey paul_p you're running plack in prod right? 17:33 jcamins_away vfernandes: you probably have marcflavour set wrong. 17:35 oleonard Grrr... why do I always have these random connections problems with git?! 17:46 * cait sends oleonard cookies 17:48 oleonard Thanks cait. Cookies are good, even if they don't improve connectivity :) 17:48 cait true :) 17:49 jcamins oleonard: I often find that the connectivity problem either A) goes away, or B) I have such a sugar high that I don't notice the connection time out after having cookies. 17:49 cait lol 17:50 gmcharlt @quote add <jcamins> I often find that the connectivity problem either A) goes away, or B) I have such a sugar high that I don't notice the connection time out after having cookies. 17:50 huginn gmcharlt: Error: You must be registered to use this command. If you are already registered, you must either identify (using the identify command) or add a hostmask matching your current hostmask (using the "hostmask add" command). 17:50 gmcharlt @quote add <jcamins> I often find that the connectivity problem either A) goes away, or B) I have such a sugar high that I don't notice the connection time out after having cookies. 17:50 huginn gmcharlt: The operation succeeded. Quote #230 added. 18:51 rangi http://www.eventfinder.co.nz/2013/kids-toy-exchange-market/wellington 18:55 jcamins rangi: trying to sell a few kids today? 18:56 rangi thinking about it :) 18:56 rangi seriously tho, it is a great idea a couple of weeks after christmas 18:57 rangi with 2 more weeks of school holidays 19:26 oleonard rangi: How long is the holiday, all in all? 19:27 rangi depends on the age of the kids 19:27 cait oh 19:27 rangi primary schools (5-12 ish) 19:28 rangi the school has a range 19:28 rangi holidays have to start no later than december 20 19:28 rangi and 28th jan is earliest school can start, feb 7th is the latest 19:28 rangi they have to be open 384 half days 19:29 oleonard Are there day-camps and things like that for kids whose parents work? 19:29 rangi so summer holidays for kahu are about 6 weeks 19:29 rangi yep 19:30 rangi lots of holiday programmes 19:30 rangi the zoo has a really good one 19:31 rangi theres stuff like the ymca etc too 19:35 oleonard khall around? 19:35 khall yo 19:35 oleonard Looking at Bug 9336, how does one test placing a hold on an unholdable item if the javascript on the results page prevents you from doing so? 19:35 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9336 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Needs Signoff , Don't let un-holdable records prevent holdable records from being held in Intranet for multi-holds 19:36 jcamins oleonard: disable Javascript? 19:36 oleonard You can't do it at all without Javascript 19:37 jcamins Oh, then I don't know. 19:37 jcamins It seemed like a good guess based on my limited understanding. 19:38 oleonard I had the same assumption jcamins. Turns out the place hold process is entirely JS-driven (which I'm sure I knew and forgot) 19:39 khall oleanoard, thaere's another patch somewhere to get rid of that 19:39 oleonard khall: Is that how you tested your patch? 19:41 khall iirc, I moved that patch from one bug to a new one. I wrote it back in May so my memory is a bit fuzzy 19:42 khall http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7703 19:42 huginn 04Bug 7703: normal, P5 - low, ---, kyle.m.hall, Needs Signoff , Don't block bulk hold action on search results if some items can't be placed on hold 19:43 rambutan rangi should go to this toy store http://diamondage.co.nz/?page_id=2 I'm sure his kids would love some hobbit printouts 19:43 rangi :) 19:47 rangi rambutan: vik who started the reprap project used to work with me, we had a reprap in the office for a while 19:51 rambutan really? PDC 19:52 cait what is a reprap? :) 19:52 rambutan I'm surprised at how active the Make channels are. #reprap #mendelmax #makerstoolworks 19:53 rambutan cait: 3D printing project 19:53 cait ahthx :) 20:35 oleonard Sometimes I get a hold screen that highlights the title I can't place on hold, sometimes I get a screen which says simply "Cannot place hold: this record has no items attached." 20:44 oleonard I see. It blocks you from placing bulk holds if any one of the titles has no items at all. 20:44 oleonard What a mess. 20:45 cait sounds like one 21:08 oleonard Bug 9350 21:08 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9350 normal, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Don't block bulk holds if one or more titles have no items 21:15 oleonard Bye #koha 21:16 cait have a nice weekend 21:16 cait :) 21:16 oleonard You too cait 23:25 vfernandes hello 23:25 vfernandes anyone here?