Time  Nick           Message
23:51 jenkins_koha   Starting build #1000 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS)
23:45 rangi          sweet
23:45 jcamins        9052 pushed.
23:43 huginn         New commit(s) kohagit: Merge branch 'bug_9052' into 3.12-master <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=aa7ac570b2d551ce8c537f0bac31f803c379e6ce> / Bug 9052 - followup: fix the YUI CSS locations for SCO <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=e24bcabb05d0716711c894f07cf7b05b59bc0086>
22:51 eythian        hello
22:51 * wizzyrea     waves
22:51 bag            heya eythian wizzyrea and jcamins (oh yeah rangi too) :)
22:48 eythian        http://www.youtubemultiplier.com/505f11bc40c24-bloooooooooooooooooooooooo.php
22:39 jcamins        lol
22:39 wizzyrea       or the water was catnip tea
22:38 jcamins        Yeah, I was wondering if there was a cat toy out of sight of the camera.
22:37 wizzyrea       and the cat who can't help himself from jumping in the barrel.
22:37 wizzyrea       I like the slowly rising cat.
22:36 jcamins        I like the cat closing the door.
22:36 jcamins        Hehe.
22:35 jcamins        Aww.
22:32 wizzyrea       jcamins: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5LuMu1u_UCM&feature=endscreen&NR=1
22:30 wizzyrea       i like that one better
22:30 wizzyrea       http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zgjOSGTDoy8
22:29 rangi          imagine having those on your farm
22:29 rangi          http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=Aw43FUCkIb8
22:13 jcamins        lol
22:13 wizzyrea       that baby is concerned his mom will buy some bras.
22:13 wahanui        https://i.chzbgr.com/maxW500/6907136512/h0FB4BFFA/
22:13 rangi          concerned
22:11 jcamins        And, "hi."
22:11 jcamins        He also says that reading is unnecessary.
22:10 rangi          i'm concerned
22:10 wizzyrea       myshkin should start a blog.
22:10 jcamins        Myshkin suggests that one does not need to see the computer in order to type.
22:07 wizzyrea       she probably can't see well enough now to do it :(
22:06 wizzyrea       the reason I say that is that when she was in her 80's, she was using a computer to write her history
22:06 wizzyrea       (she's still alive)
22:06 wizzyrea       she would have been 90 about 13 years ago
22:05 wizzyrea       well, if the blogging software had been as good then as it is now
22:05 wizzyrea       if the internet had been around when my grandma was in her early 90's I bet she would have started a blog
22:05 eythian        phew, over-christmas-email-pile: cleared!
22:03 jcamins        Yeah, Makefile.PL mixes up the "Koha installation" and "Koha instance configuration" steps.
22:03 eythian        (of course, them being quite different I guess is why it'd require significant work)
22:02 eythian        heh OK
22:02 eythian        jcamins: hmm. Though running the Makefile.PL and koha-create are quite different things in terms of how they do things. But I do like the idea of sharing templates.
22:02 jcamins        I'm also thinking I'm not doing the work, so that was all just speculative, and now that I've finished speculating, I guess I'd better go wash some more dishes.
22:01 jcamins        eythian: I'm thinking if we eliminated the divide between the templates for packages and for tarballs that would be nice.
22:01 rangi          heh
22:01 eythian        http://youtu.be/eWEjvCRPrCo <-- no, rangi
22:00 rangi          this is what the internet is for
22:00 rangi          http://greycavalier.wordpress.com/2012/12/24/intotheunknown/
22:00 jcamins        eythian: so that instead of using Makefile.PL you run koha-create mykoha.
22:00 rangi          92 year old starts a blog
22:00 jcamins        But the only reason it can't be done is that none of us have the free time.
22:00 eythian        jcamins: general how?
21:59 rangi          yep
21:59 jcamins        I mean, obviously that would require changes to Makefile.PL and some file organization.
21:59 rangi          only that the files dont exist in the right places on a non package install
21:59 jcamins        Yeah.
21:58 rangi          the koha-create etc?
21:58 wizzyrea       afk just a min
21:58 rambutan       Agree, we're really got to get past it.
21:58 jcamins        rangi: I had a thought: is there any reason the Debian scripts couldn't be general?
21:58 wizzyrea       I just think it's a red herring, liability.
21:58 rambutan       I'd like to offer a few simple classes on the Pi and Arduino, and see how much interest there is around here.
21:57 rambutan       yea, we're already planning on doing waivers for things like our e- lab. (A very modest e- lab certainly).
21:57 wizzyrea       as long as the library isn't negligent.
21:56 wizzyrea       and that would be legally binding. libraries could easily do that.
21:56 wizzyrea       that said "if he dies, it's not our fault"
21:56 rambutan       We're not going to do woodworking with power saws and all that, but certainly the 3D printing and scanning part.
21:56 wizzyrea       playspace
21:56 wizzyrea       ffs, I had to sign a waiver when I took spud to a indoor plaspace
21:55 rambutan       My director, quite luckily (I think!) is very supportive of the idea.
21:55 wizzyrea       make them sign a waiver.
21:55 rangi          much easier here
21:55 rangi          oh yeah i keep forgetting about that
21:55 wizzyrea       and the liability thing
21:55 rangi          if you give them a safe place to store it
21:55 rambutan       Afraid of liability and not having thousands of coins to buy equipment
21:55 wizzyrea       someone would have to be capable to oversee the equipment
21:55 rangi          mostly makers will bring their own stuff
21:55 rangi          yeah, the $$ is much more soluble
21:54 wizzyrea       it might be too popular.
21:54 wizzyrea       fear. SO MUCH FEAR.
21:54 rambutan       fear and $$
21:54 wizzyrea       was/is
21:54 wizzyrea       at least it was in kansas
21:54 wizzyrea       but getting them to sign on to this idea is harder than it sounds.
21:54 wizzyrea       oh yea, I agree
21:53 rangi          libaries should totally have makerspaces in them
21:53 rambutan       Yep, one of the big issues. I suppose some Blender and Inkscape learning are in store for us.
21:50 wizzyrea       you'll have to be into it - someone has to teach people how to use the printers
21:49 rangi          cool
21:47 rambutan       We're buying some 3D printers, so I'm getting into the Maker thing.
21:46 rangi          that'd be pretty sweet
21:46 rambutan       I liOK, so you integrate this with koha: http://rasterweb.net/raster/tag/make/ and every koha library world-wide uses it to do a scrolling display of the koha holdings of each nation.
21:44 wizzyrea       ty
21:44 wizzyrea       ooo
21:43 eythian        http://www.youtube.com/html5 <-- wizzyrea
21:43 jcamins        "Chop its head off and crush it with a kniiiiiiiife."
21:43 jcamins        The Pad Thai video is made of win.
21:42 wizzyrea       ...which was so awesome it crashed flash.
21:42 wizzyrea       buffalo seitan bites.
21:41 eythian        oh right
21:41 wizzyrea       right, crumbled boca burgers.
21:40 rangi          it's "meat"
21:40 eythian        that's not very vegan.
21:40 wizzyrea       "add an axe or two of meat"
21:40 wizzyrea       hehehe
21:40 wizzyrea       perhaps so
21:39 eythian        I guess it would be more useful if I were writing something Lovecraftian.
21:39 wizzyrea       it's for cooking ^.^
21:39 eythian        I didn't. But I have a bottle of ink in my drawer here anyway, I don't write enough to go through it fast.
21:39 wizzyrea       eythian: did you know they have squid ink there?
21:38 wizzyrea       lool.
21:38 wizzyrea       "weird wednesday"
21:38 rangi          https://i.chzbgr.com/maxW500/6905712128/hB4EE1988/
21:38 eythian        this reminds me, I need to go spend time at the mediterranian food place down the road one day soon.
21:37 wizzyrea       really you ought to be going for chiles.
21:37 wizzyrea       it is not very mexican with loads of sriracha.
21:37 wizzyrea       now I do have one quibble with this recipe
21:37 wizzyrea       \o/
21:37 eythian        it's what happens after a break I guess :)
21:36 wizzyrea       highly giggleworthy.
21:36 wizzyrea       eythian is on a roll today.
21:34 eythian        *consecrating the dishes
21:34 * jcamins      takes his laptop into the other room so he can watch them all while washing dishes.
21:33 rangi          heh
21:33 jcamins        "Sesame tofu from the abyss"
21:33 jcamins        "Blackest of the black beans."
21:31 jcamins        That was awesome!
21:30 eythian        you need to run it through a crypto hashbrown first.
21:30 rangi          hehe i suspect that's fine :)
21:30 liw            rangi, how strict are the randomness criteria? is a brain-generated mock-random movement pattern sufficient? :-)
21:27 * wizzyrea     decides not to make a lewd joke.
21:26 rangi          best cooking instruction yet
21:26 rangi          "poke at them randomly"
21:26 rangi          hehe
21:26 * wizzyrea     still occasionally chants "cut the tofu, turn the plate!"
21:25 wizzyrea       vbmc is quite funny.
21:25 jcamins        lol
21:23 rangi          http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=mbV0VhlIzzo#!
21:23 rangi          jcamins: i have a new recipe for you
21:20 rangi          http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pMAtL7n_-rc   <-- scott joplin
21:19 eythian        rangi: right on both counts.
21:18 wizzyrea       kekeke
21:18 rangi          (its a low bar)
21:18 eythian        it's accurate within a tiny percentage.
21:18 rangi          altho that is by far the best silverchair song
21:18 wizzyrea       silly robin, two thousand THIRTEEN, not two thousand.
21:17 rangi          hells no
21:17 eythian        http://youtu.be/ShiShrR_nh8 <-- not this?
21:11 rangi          i think to end 2012, we should throw on a bit of janis joplin https://soundcloud.com/bobby-busnach/janis-joplin-try-the-bobby
21:07 wizzyrea       take that!
21:04 jcamins        lol
21:04 trea           well played
21:03 rangi          heh
21:03 wahanui        OK, eythian.
21:03 eythian        wahanui: merry christmas is <reply>https://i.chzbgr.com/maxW500/6920411136/h6CA48D60/
20:50 wahanui        hi, eythian
20:50 eythian        hi
20:49 jcamins        lol
20:48 rangi          http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/I_want_to_help#OMGWTFBBQ.21  and made a new category
20:48 rangi          i added another to the list of easy stuff
20:48 rangi          http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/I_want_to_help#Low_hanging_fruit
20:48 rangi          speaking of that
20:48 jcamins        I can't seem to get the 130th to download.
20:47 jcamins        Well, 129 so far.
20:44 jcamins        project_gutenberg++
20:44 jcamins        130.
20:44 jcamins        I just downloaded...
20:44 rangi          heh
20:43 jcamins        I think I should have enough cookbooks to keep me occupied for a while.
20:43 wahanui        good news is it looks like it's running properly.
20:43 jcamins        Good news...
20:42 rambutan       hey
20:42 wizzyrea       oh hai :)
20:41 user00         Pretty good stuff, as long as you don't read the nutritional information on the package. Actually, the calorie count isn't terribly high.
20:41 wizzyrea       that's not precisely the thing I was thinking of
20:40 user00         yep,
20:40 wizzyrea       :)
20:40 wizzyrea       oh well with rice it's the blanc
20:40 wizzyrea       boudin is just the sausage apparently
20:39 user00         I just got back from the Lake Charles, LA area last week, and was introduced to it.
20:39 wizzyrea       (and mostly in the southern US)
20:39 wizzyrea       I have heard that referred to as "Dirty Rice"
20:39 user00         https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boudin
20:38 jcamins        I have not.
20:37 user00         rice mixed with sausage
20:37 user00         jcamins: have you heard of boudin? (Wikipedia suggests I should refer to it, perhaps, as Boudin blanc.)
20:34 jcamins        user00: they do when there's meat in it.
20:33 user00         *wonders* do cats like fried rice?
20:29 jcamins        Thanks.
20:27 rangi          good newsletter jcamins_away
20:20 wahanui        morning is a state of mind. or whenever the cat wants breakfast.
20:20 jcamins_away   Morning.
20:19 rangi          morning
19:43 wizzyrea       oh yes. fried rice is a good plan
19:40 jcamins_away   An inspired way to use up the leftover rice and the leftover roast beef.
19:39 * jcamins_away is just finishing up a delicious lunch of fried rice.
19:38 jcamins_away   Hello.
19:38 wizzyrea       :)
19:38 wizzyrea       also, good <time of day>
19:38 wizzyrea       )
19:38 wizzyrea       (unknown to me - I think I did not set that bit up, I think it's an external service like yahoo pipes or similar.
19:38 wizzyrea       i.e. it requires some interval
19:38 wizzyrea       I suspect that the twitter pickup doesn't happen straight away
19:38 jcamins_away   I thought you fixed it, actually.
19:37 wizzyrea       yay cool
19:37 jcamins_away   wizzyrea: it would seem so.
19:37 wizzyrea       jcamins_away: did you get your issues sorted out?
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14:01 huginn         jcamins_away: The operation succeeded.
14:01 jcamins_away   @later tell wizzyrea I think I did something wrong, because cait says it isn't on Twitter.
13:56 cait1          jcamins_away: oups
13:42 huginn         jcamins_away: The operation succeeded.
13:42 jcamins_away   @later tell wizzyrea If any changes need to be made to my newsletter so that it means the website's conventions (tags, SEO, whatever), please feel free to make them without checking with me first.
13:40 jcamins_away   Hooray!
13:40 jcamins_away   *Three* caits!
13:40 jcamins_away   Two caits?
02:03 jcamins_away   http://koha-community.org/monthly-missive-3-12-rm-1/ <-- I wrote a newsletter