Time  Nick           Message
23:59 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6574 normal, P5 - low, ---, liz, Passed QA , js error in en-GB template breaks circulation toolbar
23:59 wizzyrea       as long as that problem with the string was fixed, then yes bug 6574 can go away
23:50 i00nsu         ok I solve that .. bad position in ports.conf Listen 8080
23:30 jcamins_away   I only found out recently.
23:28 wizzyrea       huh. didn't know that.
23:28 jcamins_away   wizzyrea: apparently that's equivalent to "this computer on all interfaces"
23:23 wizzyrea       0.0.0.0?
23:23 jcamins_away   Well, maybe you can switch the VirtualHost to be *:80
23:23 jcamins_away   (other than having another web server running)
23:23 jcamins_away   I'm not sure what could make it do that.
23:22 i00nsu         netstat -antp | grep 80 answer NONE
23:20 jcamins_away   Sounds like you have two web servers running.
23:19 i00nsu         well everything went good until i try to restart apache and gave me this error: Address already in use: make_sock: could not bind to address 0.0.0.0:80
23:00 cait           for a release maintainer maybe:)
23:00 cait           oh yes yes
23:00 wizzyrea       that's normal stuff. ;)
23:00 wizzyrea       no no
23:00 wizzyrea       what?!
22:59 druthb         wizzyrea++
22:58 wizzyrea       heh :)
22:58 cait           wizzyrea++
22:57 cait           so many typos... *sigh*
22:56 wizzyrea       \o/
22:56 jenkins_koha   liz: Fixing errors with updatedatabase.pl
22:56 jenkins_koha   Project Koha_3.6.x build #73: SUCCESS in 25 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.6.x/73/
22:54 cait           when they don't change something with the subscription pattenr
22:54 cait           and then receive your issues.... in theory
22:54 cait           in theory you have to set up the subscriptions once
22:54 cait           I tihnk that probably happens not often in regular use
22:51 wizzyrea       in short order
22:51 wizzyrea       or have to edit the sub several times
22:51 wizzyrea       and in normal usage it is fine
22:51 wizzyrea       obviously there needs to be a map done of what people most often do - maybe this is only a problem because I have to create the sub and receive several items straight away
22:49 cait           wold need to be a ... menuor something with links to each
22:49 cait           if you edit issues from different subscriptions... it#s bit harder
22:48 cait           but
22:48 cait           i think a general toolbar like it's going to be in acq now is better
22:48 cait           hm yeah
22:48 wizzyrea       that wasn't obvious to me
22:48 wizzyrea       but ...
22:48 wizzyrea       I guess you can click on the number
22:47 wizzyrea       but you can NEW from anywhere
22:47 wizzyrea       yes, that is what it was.
22:47 wizzyrea       but getting through it made me swear a lot because there wasn't a good way to get back to "edit sub" from "receive"
22:47 wizzyrea       well I was testing that patch, it didn't seem to work for me
22:46 cait           wonder how long it has been broken
22:46 cait           yeah, that's not good
22:46 cait           ah
22:45 cait           liek that the preview does not work when you use advanced patterns
22:45 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8896 normal, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Needs Signoff , Delete serials no more missing from missinglist
22:45 wizzyrea       bug 8896
22:45 wizzyrea       8896
22:45 cait           serials has some bad quirks...
22:45 wizzyrea       no, not that one
22:45 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8054 normal, P5 - low, ---, liz, ASSIGNED , can hit submit twice when paying fines
22:45 wizzyrea       i wonder what I was doing that made me so mad. it had to do with bug 8054
22:44 cait           hm when you save you get back and can generate next
22:44 cait           letme see
22:44 wizzyrea       or am I missing something
22:44 cait           hm
22:44 wizzyrea       you have to go all the way back out
22:44 wizzyrea       if you click into receive, and you haven't generated the next
22:43 wizzyrea       yea, except... ok that's fine, but let's just say you are not smart enough to do that, like me
22:42 cait           first generate them, then click edit serials
22:42 cait           /cgi-bin/koha/serials/serials-collection.pl?subscriptionid=1
22:42 cait           i think you can receive multiple from the serials-collection page
22:42 cait           but I have been demoing serials some andwegot 2 libraries using it
22:42 cait           not sure I can do it properly
22:41 wizzyrea       some day you're going to have to screenshare and show me how it's properly done
22:41 cait           like the subscription number brings you back to the page I tihnk
22:40 cait           when I show it to someone
22:40 cait           not searching again
22:40 cait           i mostly use links
22:40 cait           hmm
22:40 wizzyrea       which seems... nuts
22:39 wizzyrea       it just seems like I can't get to the things I want to get to without going back to the top and re-searching for the serial
22:39 cait           the navigation on the left varies a bit too, depending on where you are
22:39 cait           for one bibliographic record
22:38 cait           I think part of the problem is that some of the views/pages deal with multiple subscriptions
22:38 cait           ah that toolbar, I was thinking about the links:)
22:38 cait           hmIthink part ofthe reason it is notpersistant
22:36 wizzyrea       from anywhere in serials.
22:36 wizzyrea       you should be able to *at least* get back to any of those functions
22:35 wizzyrea       I think the serial toolbar should be persistent
22:35 wizzyrea       well, here's what I think
22:35 cait           butnot sure how often it happens
22:35 cait           wizzyrea: i think you are right, receiving more than one would be nice
22:31 jenkins_koha   Starting build #73 for job Koha_3.6.x (previous build: SUCCESS)
22:30 wizzyrea       one of the joggers looked like he was going to punch it out
22:30 rangi          and the one who drops straight into a fighting stance .. dont mess with her
22:29 wizzyrea       OMG you bumped that snowman!
22:29 rangi          yeah
22:29 wizzyrea       i like the girl that puts it back
22:26 rangi          http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=rgrr6b6Vt6M#!
22:23 cait           :)
22:23 wizzyrea       whilst teaching them how to use serials.
22:22 wizzyrea       maybe I will learn some things from the librarians
22:22 wizzyrea       fortunately I have some training on serials coming up
22:22 wizzyrea       I feel like I need to watch people using it
22:22 wizzyrea       oh I know right - but I'm not even sure how it's supposed to work so... it's hard to know how it should be fixed/
22:21 cait           wizzyrea: patches welcome ;)
22:11 cjh_           \o/
22:11 rangi          yay!
22:10 jenkins_koha   Project Koha_master build #996: FIXED in 1 hr 37 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/996/
22:10 jenkins_koha   Yippie, build fixed!
22:07 * wizzyrea     swears a lot at serials
22:06 rangi          right, thats better
22:03 wizzyrea       so much clicking.
22:03 wizzyrea       ugh why can you not receive another serial on the same subscription straight away
22:02 gmcharlt       rangi++ # dashboarding through the snow...
22:00 wizzyrea       :)
22:00 wizzyrea       holidays really *are* the best time of the year
21:59 wizzyrea       gmcharlt++
21:59 wizzyrea       MAGIC.
21:59 rangi          awesome :)
21:59 gmcharlt       rangi: that link I sent you is auto-magically updated
21:58 rangi          hehe ill need an updated list before that will show up :)
21:58 huginn         gmcharlt: The operation succeeded.  Quote #226 added.
21:58 gmcharlt       @quote add <wizzyrea> like someone would do quote add "someone: something funny"
21:57 rangi          ahh i see a bug
21:55 wizzyrea       hehe some of those are quite priceless.
21:55 rangi          fixed
21:55 * dracoling    chuckles
21:55 dracoling      "' yes
21:53 wizzyrea       and it kept the quotes.
21:53 cait           k
21:53 wizzyrea       like someone would do quote add "someone: something funny"
21:52 rangi          yeah
21:52 wizzyrea       I think
21:52 wizzyrea       some of them were added that awy
21:52 cait           sometimes there aresome, often not or only on one side
21:52 cait           the "' seem a little bit weird
21:52 cait           :)
21:52 wizzyrea       rangi++
21:51 wizzyrea       ah!
21:51 rangi          if you want to use them anywhere else :)
21:51 rangi          http://dashboard.koha-community.org/randomquote
21:51 wizzyrea       I got "don't pet a burning dog"
21:51 wizzyrea       hehe
21:51 rangi          http://dashboard.koha-community.org/
21:50 cait           been there today...
21:50 cait           true
21:50 wizzyrea       ...sometimes
21:50 wizzyrea       but, ok, if a required one is missing, this page won't load anyway
21:49 wizzyrea       perhaps we ought to have a legend
21:48 wizzyrea       ah
21:48 cait           I think the required ones are bold
21:48 cait           it's not bold
21:48 cait           hmIthink yellow is foranother version
21:47 wizzyrea       it's a little misleading though, as it's red - if I don't need it without solr, then why isn't it yellow or something
21:47 wizzyrea       and that one isn't installed.
21:47 wizzyrea       i went to look at the modules page
21:47 wizzyrea       hehe I'm just being funny
21:46 cait           wizzyrea: you don't need it without solr
21:45 wizzyrea       WHAT DATA::PAGINATION isn't installed?!!?!
21:45 wizzyrea       and why aren't they all listed >.>
21:45 jcamins_away   wizzyrea: only if the module is listed.
21:45 wizzyrea       the tab for modules
21:44 wizzyrea       cait, can't you use the about page in koha
21:37 jcamins_away   Maybe.
21:37 cait           ignore me
21:37 jcamins_away   There's a way to do it with Perl... `perl -e "use Module; print Module->VERSION;"
21:37 cait           ah, I can't spell
21:37 cait           what if it#s not listed there? :(
21:36 cait           hm
21:36 jcamins_away   (and then look for the module you're interested in)
21:35 jcamins_away   Or `perl koha_perl_deps.pl -a`
21:35 jcamins_away   `apt-cache policy libmodule-perl
21:35 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7368 trivial, P5 - low, ---, m.de.rooy, Pushed to Stable , General staff client typo omnibus
21:35 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7143 trivial, P5 - low, ---, m.de.rooy, Needs Signoff , Bug for tracking changes to the about page
21:35 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9183 normal, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Pushed to Stable , C4::Search should only have one ZOOM event loop
21:35 jenkins_koha   * m.de.rooy: Bug 7368: Update GetXmlBiblio documentation
21:35 jenkins_koha   * Paul Poulain: Bug 7143 adding Kiriaki Roditi as translator
21:35 jenkins_koha   * jcamins: Bug 9183: Refactor ZOOM event loop
21:35 jenkins_koha   Project Koha_3.10.x build #39: SUCCESS in 1 hr 19 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.10.x/39/
21:34 cait           ok, afterno success googling...what#s the easiest way to find out which version of amodule you are using?
21:34 cait           totally.
21:33 huginn         cait: The answer is def-- oooh! shiny thing!
21:33 cait           @eightball will I pass QA on this?
21:33 huginn         cait: Quote #7: "Snow_Fox: a rift opens in space the information is shuffled to dev_hyperspace rift then closes" (added by wizzyrea at 03:28 PM, June 18, 2009)
21:33 cait           @quote random
21:32 wizzyrea       *giggle*
21:32 huginn         wizzyrea: Quote #29: "< CGI634> kill self now avoid slow cataloging death" (added by chris at 09:32 PM, September 02, 2009)
21:32 wizzyrea       @quote random
21:31 wizzyrea       khall++ for preventDoubleFormSubmit()
21:31 i00nsu         gmcharlt, 2 servers to do that is kind of weird  I want use only one server.. but lets see
21:29 i00nsu         ok.. Iwill try and see what I can do
21:29 * gmcharlt     still prefers installing Koha on Debian, natch :)
21:29 gmcharlt       i00nsu: on the bright side, the last time I played around with it a few months ago -- it actually wasn't too far off
21:28 i00nsu         ok :)
21:28 jcamins_away   Any updates are greatly appreciated. :)
21:28 jcamins_away   There's the page gmcharlt referenced. I'm not sure if there's anything more recent.
21:28 wizzyrea       you could update that :)
21:27 i00nsu         is any post / docs to install that way (the horrible painful process) ?
21:27 gmcharlt       i00nsu: http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Koha_3.6_on_Centos_6.2_i386 will get you started, although it's a bit out of date
21:27 cait           :)
21:27 jcamins_away   i00nsu: I don't know anything about installing on RedHat, other than that it's a horrible painful process.
21:26 rangi          that list will be enough to get the dashboard going
21:26 i00nsu         jcamins_away, ok.. This test will be completly... but The real problem will be in the REAL server (RH Entreprise) using Fedora docs is possible?
21:26 huginn         wizzyrea: Quote #98: "drulm: TGIF=Thank Galen It's Friday" (added by wizzyrea at 07:15 PM, October 08, 2010)
21:26 wizzyrea       @quote get 98
21:24 huginn         cait: Quote #123: "rangi: #thingsihavelearnt if there is a mad scheme a library somewhere will be doing it ... except madder" (added by wizzyrea at 09:20 PM, March 30, 2011)
21:24 cait           @quote get 123
21:24 cait           not only funny, but also great wisdom in there
21:24 cait           hehe
21:24 huginn         gmcharlt: Quote #225: "eythian: The koha community is a major force in preventing the extinction of zebras with the amount we're rebuilding." (added by wizzyrea at 09:44 PM, December 19, 2012)
21:24 gmcharlt       @quote get 225
21:23 jcamins_away   It's *cold*.
21:23 jcamins_away   Boy do I wish I had remembered my hat today.
21:23 i00nsu         ah ah Nice jcamins_away
21:23 wizzyrea       aside: we are very funny.
21:23 * wizzyrea     gets lost reading quotes
21:22 rangi          sweet thanks :)
21:22 gmcharlt       rangi: for your up-to-date parsing fun - http://librarypolice.com/~gmc/koha_irc_quotes.txt
21:22 jcamins_away   Here's what I have in my sources.list: http://paste.koha-community.org/326
21:21 jcamins_away   Oh, you could add deb-source, too.
21:21 huginn         druthb: Quote #195: "jcamins: libsysguy's test plans all involve sandwich-eating. I think he only programs when hungry." (added by wizzyrea at 06:12 PM, March 30, 2012)
21:21 druthb         @quote random
21:21 huginn         cait: Quote #110: "chris: im rm, not god" (added by kf at 10:20 AM, December 08, 2010)
21:21 cait           @quote random
21:21 wizzyrea       looool
21:21 cait           gmcharlt++
21:21 huginn         gmcharlt: Quote #184: "slef: IF YOU STARE TOO DEEPLY INTO MARC21, MARC21 STARES BACK INTO YOU!" (added by wizzyrea at 06:58 PM, January 30, 2012)
21:21 gmcharlt       @quote random
21:21 i00nsu         no deb-src?
21:21 jcamins_away   Lines.
21:21 jcamins_away   You only want the line for debian.koha-community.org.
21:20 jcamins_away   You need to *remove* the lines for indexdata.
21:20 jcamins_away   Okay.
21:20 i00nsu         both's: deb and deb-src in /etc/apt/sources.list
21:20 wizzyrea       or are you saying "if you did it, take it out"
21:20 jcamins_away   Right.
21:20 wizzyrea       adding the apt line
21:20 wizzyrea       hm that isn't in the instructions though
21:19 jcamins_away   Did you add an extra apt line for indexdata?
21:19 i00nsu         Good, jcamins_away. Lets see my problem Again.. koha-common : Depends : libnet-z3950-zoom-perl but is not going to be installed. Depends : idzebra-2.09 But no install | Depends: yaz but No install
21:18 jcamins_away   If you submit your first patch in the next three days, we can hit 200 submitters in 2012!
21:18 jcamins_away   YES!!!
21:18 wizzyrea       :)
21:18 wizzyrea       and be the 200th submitter.
21:17 jcamins_away   Then you can return to configuring your git installation so that you can submit patches.
21:17 jcamins_away   I'd use that page up to the `sudo apt-get install koha-common`
21:17 huginn         gmcharlt: An error has occurred and has been logged. Please contact this bot's administrator for more information.
21:17 gmcharlt       @quote random
21:17 wizzyrea       to test that properly
21:17 wahanui        packages is at http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Debian
21:17 jcamins_away   packages?
21:16 i00nsu         ok.. so what manual I should stick ?
21:16 wizzyrea       I feel like you need a serious corpus of reserves, and a very active circulation of reserves
21:16 jcamins_away   Easiest thing to do is install koha-common to get the dependencies.
21:16 jcamins_away   i00nsu: okay, there is absolutely no reason for you to be using CPAN.
21:15 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8562 minor, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Needs Signoff , RandomizeHoldsQueueWeight ignored if StaticHoldsQueueWeight is empty.
21:15 wizzyrea       bug 8562 - I feel like we should be looking at this one but I'm not sure how to test it exactly
21:15 jcamins_away   Good.
21:15 jcamins_away   Okay.
21:15 i00nsu         yes
21:15 jcamins_away   i00nsu: so you did `git clone git://git.koha-community.org/koha.git kohaclone`?
21:14 i00nsu         probably the last
21:14 i00nsu         jcamins_away, this specific version I am testing (right now) is the downloaded git version.. what package version is? don't know..
21:14 wizzyrea       :)
21:13 wizzyrea       nooo not the quotes!
21:13 jcamins_away   What an interesting quote.
21:13 jcamins_away   lol
21:13 huginn         cait: An error has occurred and has been logged. Please contact this bot's administrator for more information.
21:13 cait           @quote random
21:12 jcamins_away   i00nsu: so you're using Koha 3.10?
21:12 huginn         gmcharlt: An error has occurred and has been logged. Please contact this bot's administrator for more information.
21:12 gmcharlt       @quote random
21:11 jcamins_away   So Ubuntu 12.10?
21:10 i00nsu         arr.. easy.. I use both docs and versions (git version), (koha-commom version). | ubuntuServer: 3.2.0-35-generic-pae, last version updated
21:09 rangi          gmcharlt: good idea thanks
21:09 rangi          are you trying to use the pacakges from zebra or something .. what guide are you following to install .. really recommend just using http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Debian (it will work just fine on any modern ubuntu)
21:09 jcamins_away   Also, what version of Ubuntu server?
21:08 * wizzyrea     is consummately lazy
21:08 jcamins_away   wizzyrea++ # for programming wahanui
21:07 wahanui        rumour has it third question is "What version of Koha are you using?" http://koha-community.org/faq/find-version-koha-running/
21:07 jcamins_away   third question?
21:07 wahanui        i guess second question is "What is the exact error message?"
21:07 jcamins_away   second question?
21:07 i00nsu         I am using ubuntu-server jcamins_away, and I am getting few problems with idzebra and yaz.. broken packages
21:07 jcamins_away   ^^ i00nsu
21:07 wahanui        "What are you trying to do?" or "What is the goal?"
21:07 jcamins_away   first question?
21:07 jcamins_away   Okay, we're starting in the middle.
21:06 * jcamins_away is not using the koha-common package.
21:06 cait           and using the koha-common packages of corse
21:06 jcamins_away   Nor have I.
21:06 cait           right this moment, never had any problems
21:06 cait           i have koha working on ubuntu
21:06 jcamins_away   (Ubuntu or Debian)
21:05 jcamins_away   But if you're on Ubuntu, you should just use the package manager.
21:05 jcamins_away   Oh, if you're not using Ubuntu, of course.
21:05 jcamins_away   Which instructions are you following?
21:05 i00nsu         not always in all distros I am testing have the libs or Perl modules they need.
21:05 jcamins_away   i00nsu: it's definitely not the correct way. I do not install anything with CPAN.
21:04 i00nsu         jcamins_away, bcause is the correct way? I am guessing.. the yaz libs in ubuntu have broken dependencies..
21:04 gmcharlt       rangi: not conveniently, although something that scrapes the quotes database could always PM huginn
21:04 rangi          its fine to say no :)
21:03 rangi          gmcharlt: is there a way to interact with huginn other than via irc, what i would like to do is show a random quote up next to the random bug here http://dashboard.koha-community.org/
21:03 jcamins_away   i00nsu: why are you installing from CPAN?
21:03 i00nsu         hi all. I am trying to install koha, and I am getting some problems when installing few Perl modules from <cpan> shell.. one of them is DBD::SQLite2 another is GD. Does DBD::SQLite (SQLite3) is supported?
21:03 gmcharlt       rangi: hmm?
21:02 rangi          gmcharlt: do you have a second?
20:56 wizzyrea       good evening cait :)
20:56 cait           andmorning wizzyrea :)
20:56 cait           if you find something letme know... I am going to tackle the next thing on my todo list :)
20:56 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7143 trivial, P5 - low, ---, m.de.rooy, Needs Signoff , Bug for tracking changes to the about page
20:56 rangi          bug 7143 is ready for an easy signoff
20:56 wizzyrea       :D
20:56 wizzyrea       maybe?
20:56 cait           maybe
20:56 rangi          maybe
20:55 wizzyrea       ?
20:55 wizzyrea       no other patches that we can resurrect from the dark corners of bugzilla
20:55 jcamins_away   That'll be 199. :)
20:55 rangi          when that is pushed 199
20:54 cait           and how many devs now?
20:54 cait           :)
20:54 rangi          ok thats passed qa now
20:37 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8712 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Patch doesn't apply , We should use WAI-ARIA guidelines to help with accessibility -OMNIBUS bug
20:37 rangi          the first patch on bug 8712
20:37 cait           so what was that easy patch?
20:37 cait           rangi++ :)
20:35 rangi          will do
20:35 jcamins_away   And while you're at it, could you please add the latest maintenance releases?
20:35 * rangi        will do
20:35 jcamins_away   Yes please.
20:35 rangi          i can do a patch renumbering if you like?
20:34 rangi          looks like he just got missed being added to the history?
20:34 jcamins_away   So he does.
20:34 jcamins_away   Oh, wow.
20:34 rangi          he has patches from back in 2010
20:34 jcamins_away   Why not?
20:34 rangi          http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=search;s=Bernardo+Gonzalez+Kriegel;st=author
20:34 rangi          but bernado shouldnt be 198
20:33 rangi          hm maybe not
20:33 rangi          actually we are at 197
20:32 jenkins_koha   Starting build #996 for job Koha_master (previous build: NOW UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #987 7 days 7 hr ago)
20:32 jenkins_koha   rangi: job Koha_master build scheduled with a quiet period of 5 seconds
20:32 rangi          !jenkins build Koha_master
20:32 jcamins_away   Yay!
20:32 rangi          and so does it
20:32 rangi          right sysprefs pass now
20:32 jcamins_away   maintenance.pl
20:32 jcamins_away   I see.
20:32 jcamins_away   Oh.
20:31 jcamins_away   What is the BackgroundJob error? It works on my system.
20:31 rangi          back to the issue with the sysprefs, ill try a db update
20:30 jenkins_koha   * jcamins: Revert "Bug 7167: New version for updatedatabase"
20:30 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7167 new feature, P1 - high, ---, jonathan.druart, REOPENED , updatedatabase improvements
20:30 jenkins_koha   * jcamins: Revert "Bug 7167 follow-up setting DBrevision, before pushing"
20:30 jenkins_koha   * jcamins: Revert "Bug 7167: Followup: Removes useless global variables"
20:30 jenkins_koha   * jcamins: Revert "Bug 7167: Adds Unit tests for C4::Update::Database"
20:30 jenkins_koha   * jcamins: Revert "Bug 7167: Set final updatedatabase.pl version"
20:30 jenkins_koha   Project Koha_master build #995: NOW UNSTABLE in 1 hr 14 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/995/
20:29 wahanui        hmmm... git is http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Version_Control_Using_Git
20:29 jcamins_away   git?
20:23 wizzyrea       charge forth!
20:23 wizzyrea       by all means
20:23 wizzyrea       naw, if you can find one
20:23 wizzyrea       lol.
20:23 jcamins_away   Aww.
20:23 jcamins_away   Okay everyone, that's three days to find a 200th!
20:23 wizzyrea       save 200 for 2013 ;)
20:22 rangi          and yeah that would be 199 afaict
20:17 rangi          yep, makes a site a lot more accessible really easily
20:17 jcamins_away   That's brilliant!
20:17 jcamins_away   Oh, wow!
20:17 wizzyrea       but...
20:17 wizzyrea       will miss the first of the year
20:17 rangi          yep
20:17 wizzyrea       we'll probably get a couple more at the academy
20:16 rangi          http://www.w3.org/TR/wai-aria-practices/#kbd_layout_landmark_XHTML
20:16 jcamins_away   What are landmark tags?
20:16 rangi          doesnt seem to have been done
20:16 rangi          which was landmark tags
20:16 jenkins_koha   Starting build #39 for job Koha_3.10.x (previous build: SUCCESS)
20:15 jcamins_away   cait: I have a fun patch for you! You can QA the first patch on bug 8712.
20:15 rangi          heh interestingly the main change i wanted
20:14 rangi          (that one just allows the screen reader to behave nicer)
20:14 rangi          but then there are a bunch more that may or may not be safe
20:14 rangi          it just adds a title to the search box
20:13 rangi          http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/attachment.cgi?id=12891
20:13 rangi          the first one is safe
20:13 rangi          i think there are bunch on there
20:13 wizzyrea       there was another one too
20:13 jcamins_away   It did not pass QA. :(
20:12 jcamins_away   Yes.
20:12 jcamins_away   Ah.
20:12 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8712 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Patch doesn't apply , We should use WAI-ARIA guidelines to help with accessibility -OMNIBUS bug
20:12 rangi          is it bug 8712 ?
20:12 * wizzyrea     would help that one along
20:12 jcamins_away   I think so.
20:12 jcamins_away   I'm not sure.
20:12 rangi          oh yes, has it passed qa?
20:12 jcamins_away   (apologies if I misspelled the name)
20:12 jcamins_away   Srikanth!
20:12 rangi          hmm?
20:12 jcamins_away   We have a patch by a new developer!
20:12 jcamins_away   Wait!
20:11 rangi          heh
20:10 jcamins_away   If we each try to recruit one person, maybe we can get two developers in the next three days. :)
20:09 wizzyrea       that's gonna be rough
20:08 jcamins_away   3 days?
20:08 * wizzyrea     wonders who will be 200
20:08 jcamins_away   Can you get me two more in the next...
20:08 jcamins_away   Yeah.
20:08 jcamins_away   Oh.
20:08 rangi          heh 198 devs :)
20:08 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=198 normal, P2, ---, gmcharlt, CLOSED FIXED, Cannot set password for a member
20:08 jcamins_away   bug 198
20:07 rangi          hmm 198
20:07 rangi          ohh 168
19:45 jcamins_away   It sure was.
19:45 rangi          ohh that was a good email from stacy
19:31 gmcharlt       or quassel
19:30 jcamins_away   Yeah, I've heard that from other people too.
19:30 rangi          is because i can connect to it from my phone, easier than i can to a screen
19:30 rangi          the reason i like bip
19:30 rangi          yep all good
19:27 jcamins_away   Or tmux.
19:27 jcamins_away   Or screen.
19:27 * libsysguy    needs to set up bip
19:26 libsysguy      powernap
19:26 rangi          joubu++ #lots of QA work
19:26 libsysguy      well I found out why I was bouncing
19:26 libsysguy      heh
19:26 jcamins_away   Speaking of libsysguy, did he ever get his internet connection working?
19:25 * druthb       pokes libsysguy.
19:25 druthb         Or unruly developers.
19:25 druthb         Good for poking unruly bots, slef.  Extends the reach.
19:25 rangi          druthb++
19:24 slef           pointy stick?
19:24 slef           rangi: figured he might be an ex, dissing C4::Charset
19:24 druthb         That's my plan, yes.
19:24 rangi          now the new server is rocking along, its probably doable too
19:23 jcamins_away   Excellent!
19:23 rangi          there are some mails on the translate list about it
19:23 rangi          that's what they want
19:23 jcamins_away   I wonder if it should be on translate.k-c.org.
19:23 rangi          yeah their manual translation process is pretty sweet, and could be used for other languages
19:22 * druthb       wields her pointy stick, and watches wahanui suspiciously.
19:22 gmcharlt       ha!
19:21 wahanui        Good, I'm glad you figured it out. I didn't understand, and probably never will, being a bot.
19:21 jcamins_away   Never mind.
19:21 jcamins_away   Oh, it's for the manual.
19:21 jcamins_away   Why does the Spanish Koha project have a separate Pootle?
19:21 jcamins_away   :)
19:21 rangi          jcamins_away: good news its gotten much further than the last build :)
19:16 jenkins_koha   Starting build #995 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL FAILING -- last SUCCESS #987 7 days 6 hr ago)
19:13 rangi          yay marshall fixed the press release :)
19:11 rangi          slef: sounds interesting (he's an ex Koha dev and ex biblibran btw)
19:06 huginn         New commit(s) kohagit: Revert "Bug 7167: New version for updatedatabase" <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=7535f2bfa32c7398bfe0baa619bdfa6abf1320b2> / Revert "Bug 7167 follow-up setting DBrevision, before pushing" <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=72f9f2239f9d71eec5e2cd987f445a25618d8027> / Revert "Bug 7167: Followup: Removes useless global variables" <http://git.koha-community.org/git
19:04 slef           -- Marc Chantreux on code4lib
19:03 slef           "I just released an "almost working" iso5426 ucm and Encode::ISO5426 on github. This is an XS module way faster than the Koha C4::Charset and the encode (to iso5426) feature works." https://github.com/eiro/p5-encode-iso5426
18:52 rangi          heh
18:51 gmcharlt       wahanui is a popular entity
18:50 vinash         fine
18:50 wahanui        niihau, vinash
18:50 vinash         hi
18:38 rangi          Matter
18:38 rangi          Or staff client for that m
18:38 rangi          Someone could use the opac before db upgrade happens
18:37 rangi          Since now we don't go into maintenance mode
18:37 rangi          Upgrade docs need to change too
18:34 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9328 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , File::Find::Rule should not be a mandatory dependency for installation
18:34 gmcharlt       bug 9328
18:27 rangi          I'd prefer that
18:27 gmcharlt       rangi: that, or adjust things so that perl Makefile.PL only requires core Perl modules to work
18:26 rangi          To make sure ppl have installed the new module so that the makefile can check they have installed the modules :)
18:25 rangi          Oh and the install files all need to be updated
18:08 cait           :)
18:08 huginn         gmcharlt: The operation succeeded.
18:08 gmcharlt       @later tell jcamins http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=wip/koha-equinox.git;a=shortlog;h=refs/heads/bug7167_fix_installation
18:08 cait           gmcharlt: you are missing an s
18:06 huginn         gmcharlt: The operation succeeded.
18:06 gmcharlt       @later tell jcamin http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=wip/koha-equinox.git;a=shortlog;h=refs/heads/bug7167_fix_installation
18:06 gmcharlt       rangi: http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=wip/koha-equinox.git;a=shortlog;h=refs/heads/bug7167_fix_installation
17:58 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7167 new feature, P1 - high, ---, jonathan.druart, REOPENED , updatedatabase improvements
17:58 wahanui        bug 7167 is commented out of control
17:58 gmcharlt       bug 7167
17:54 gmcharlt       not quite sure that's loud enough to express his love of the game
17:54 slef           heh
17:54 wahanui        I LIKE BASEBALL
17:54 slef           wahanui: bag?
17:49 rangi          ok time to get ready for work, be back from the bus
17:48 huginn         rangi: The operation succeeded.
17:48 rangi          @later tell jcamins there is an issue with bug 7167 that is currently rendering Koha impossible to install
17:46 rangi          yep
17:46 gmcharlt       upshot is that it seems to be depending on finding a Koha config
17:46 rangi          yep, thats exactly what jenkins gets gmcharlt
17:46 rangi          then its all workign again
17:46 pastebot       "gmcharlt" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "rangi: I get a slightly different variant" (8 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/325
17:46 rangi          git checkout 1d7ad3fb83e22188cc6775f73dcaba31653438a8
17:46 rangi          if i checkout the commit just before that
17:46 rangi          BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at Makefile.PL line 31.
17:46 rangi          Compilation failed in require at Makefile.PL line 31.
17:46 rangi          BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at /home/christopher/git/koha/C4/Installer.pm line 26.
17:46 rangi          Compilation failed in require at /home/christopher/git/koha/C4/Installer.pm line 26.
17:46 rangi          Access denied for user 'kohaadmin'@'localhost' (using password: YES) at /home/christopher/git/koha/C4/Context.pm line 802.
17:45 rangi          localhost' (using password: YES) at /home/christopher/git/koha/C4/Context.pm line 802
17:45 rangi          perl Makefile.PL
17:45 rangi          yep
17:45 rangi          renders koha not possible to install
17:45 gmcharlt       but that's only part of it
17:45 gmcharlt       rangi: one part is installing libfile-find-rule-perl
17:45 rangi          c9cb55ef4710bfee111e6e2721f3ca2bf58d98f7
17:43 rangi          yep git bisect tracks it down
17:39 * cait         sends bag and gmcharlt cookies
17:38 rangi          thanks gmcharlt
17:38 rangi          then simply run perl Makefile.pl
17:38 druthb         bag is a very responsible person at ByWater.  Anything goes wrong, he's responsible.
17:37 gmcharlt       rangi: I'm doing so now
17:37 rangi          checkout master
17:37 rangi          can someone else test please
17:37 * druthb       blames gmcharlt
17:37 bag            :(
17:37 gmcharlt       uh, wait a minute
17:37 gmcharlt       blame me! blame me!
17:37 druthb         Let's blame...  oh, how about blaming bag, instead.
17:37 rangi          nope 7167
17:36 druthb         Awr!
17:36 cait           druthb: :(
17:36 * druthb       blames cait.
17:36 cait           hope it wasnot the package patch I tested
17:36 cait           do we know what broke it?
17:36 cait           eek
17:36 rangi          hence why jenkins is unhappy
17:35 rangi          it dont work
17:35 rangi          hmm has anyone tried a perl Makefile.PL on master now
17:34 cait           great and busy
17:34 gmcharlt       cait: I did.  how was yours?
17:32 cait           hope you had nice holidays :)
17:31 cait           hi gmcharlt
17:31 gmcharlt       and would the -min flag to updatedb.pl imply that the names of the "versions" shouldn't be free-form?
17:31 gmcharlt       jcamins_away: so in the new regime, 'version' as used by C4::Update::Database essentially means "DB upgrade patch"?
17:30 Joubu          bye all
17:30 Joubu          jcamins_away: thank you for your work
17:28 jcamins_away   Actually, turns out that CREATE TABLE IF NOT EXISTS works in both MySQL and Postgres.
17:27 jcamins_away   slef: I favor .pl for the ability to not add tables if they already exist, etc.
17:25 slef           thought it might just keep trying
17:25 jcamins_away   It does look like that.
17:25 slef           just wondered... looked like it was starting and failing builds quickly
17:24 jcamins_away   slef: I hope not. I see no reason why it should.
17:23 slef           so does this means jenkins_koha will flood us?
17:23 jenkins_koha   Project Koha_master build #994: STILL FAILING in 16 sec: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/994/
17:23 slef           that's a fast failure
17:23 jenkins_koha   Starting build #994 for job Koha_master (previous build: FAILURE -- last SUCCESS #987 7 days 4 hr ago)
17:23 jenkins_koha   * jcamins: Bug 7167: Set final updatedatabase.pl version
17:23 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7167 new feature, P1 - high, ---, jonathan.druart, RESOLVED FIXED, updatedatabase improvements
17:23 jenkins_koha   * jonathan.druart: Bug 7167: Adds Unit tests for C4::Update::Database
17:23 jenkins_koha   * jonathan.druart: Bug 7167: Followup: Removes useless global variables
17:23 jenkins_koha   * Paul Poulain: Bug 7167 follow-up setting DBrevision, before pushing
17:23 jenkins_koha   * jonathan.druart: Bug 7167: New version for updatedatabase
17:23 jenkins_koha   Project Koha_master build #993: FAILURE in 1 min 26 sec: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/993/
17:22 slef           I'll probably edit that wiki page to have less sucky names than bug_9999 but I don't really mind... I don't think the pl interface should be used much and the sql one is much better than what we had before.
17:22 jenkins_koha   Starting build #993 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #987 7 days 4 hr ago)
17:21 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9315 trivial, P5 - low, ---, bgkriegel, Pushed to Master , Bad version of String::Random reported by koha_perl_deps.pl
17:21 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7368 trivial, P5 - low, ---, m.de.rooy, Passed QA , General staff client typo omnibus
17:21 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7143 trivial, P5 - low, ---, m.de.rooy, Pushed to Master , Bug for tracking changes to the about page
17:21 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9183 normal, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Pushed to Master , C4::Search should only have one ZOOM event loop
17:21 jenkins_koha   * jcamins: Add Bernardo Gonzalez Kriegel to history
17:21 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9009 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Pushed to Master , Add separate user js and css for SCO module
17:21 jenkins_koha   * bgkriegel: Bug 9315: Bad version of String::Random reported by koha_perl_deps.pl
17:21 jenkins_koha   * m.de.rooy: Bug 7368: Update GetXmlBiblio documentation
17:21 jenkins_koha   * Paul Poulain: Bug 7143 adding Kiriaki Roditi as translator
17:21 jenkins_koha   * jcamins: Bug 9183: Refactor ZOOM event loop
17:21 jenkins_koha   * jcamins: Bug 9009: Increment version number
17:21 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9162 enhancement, P1 - high, ---, vfernandes, Pushed to Master , Add a system preference to set which notes fields appears on title notes/description separator
17:21 jenkins_koha   * kyle: Bug 9009 - Add separate user js and css for SCO module
17:21 jenkins_koha   * jcamins: Bug 9162: Increment version number
17:21 jenkins_koha   * vfernandes: BUG 9162 - Add a system preference to set which notes fields appears on title notes/description separator
17:21 jenkins_koha   Project Koha_master build #992: STILL UNSTABLE in 1 hr 8 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/992/
17:21 slef           well I think the sql way is nice, but I'm not massively convinced by the pl interface style
17:19 slef           {{{ something descriptive like "bug_9999.sql" }}} no, bug_9999 is *not* descriptive
17:18 cait           i will apply my rebased patches... I guess we will need a rewriten database update now too
17:18 slef           aside - why have we got DEBUG environment variable, instead of KOHA_DEBUG to go with KOHA_CONF and KOHA_BACKTRACES ?
17:18 Joubu          ok cait, I will check that tomorrow
17:17 slef           errr errr err
17:17 slef           rangi: back from the archives... reading...
17:16 cait           I will attach my test plan so far
17:16 cait           Joubu: debug needs to work.
17:16 cait           Joubu: I am going to fail it for now
17:15 Joubu          jcamins_away: I will have a look to the bugs you openned about update database
17:14 rangi          in order to avoid trivially easy to resolve merge conflicts we have made making a db change a zillion times harder, i hope the people who pushed this change are going to spend time teaching new committers how to do this
17:13 huginn         New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 7167: Set final updatedatabase.pl version <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=c34017336c3cd03f471b1c5100b9f6b4dbe589db> / Bug 7167: Adds Unit tests for C4::Update::Database <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=69c19e28b49d1732601c79c9aacf8de4b754b9d8> / Bug 7167: Followup: Removes useless global variables <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitd
17:13 rangi          slef: http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Database_updates  <-- top is the old way, below is the new way
17:11 Joubu          cait: haaa ok !
17:11 cait           Joubu: it appears as a comment in the html source code - not directly on the page
17:11 rangi          im not sure id call it an improvement
17:10 rangi          updatedatabase something
17:10 * slef         is buried in accountancy, not read mail
17:10 slef           rangi: updatedatabase improvements or what?
17:10 cait           I liked the existing system, it was easy to see what's going on there,
17:09 cait           rangi: i was never a fan of the idea :(
17:09 * rangi        is quite unhappy about that
17:09 cait           Joubu: hmpf
17:09 rangi          wow, we just raised the bar for writing a patch for koha 1000m
17:09 cait           no, but it seemed like you were asking what I talked about ;)
17:09 * rangi        reads the instructions for creating a db update now
17:08 slef           cait: hmmm? Did I sign that one off?
17:08 jcamins_away   Joubu: that's just HTML comments. It should still appear in the page.
17:08 Joubu          -->
17:08 Joubu          [% FOREACH message IN Logger.get_messages() %][% message %][% END %]
17:08 Joubu          <!-- LOG MESSAGES
17:08 Joubu          [%- IF LogToHtmlComments %]
17:08 jcamins        And I am heading into the city.
17:08 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7167 new feature, P1 - high, ---, jonathan.druart, RESOLVED FIXED, updatedatabase improvements
17:08 cait           in the comments
17:08 jcamins        Bug 7167 is pushed.
17:08 cait           and it shows up
17:08 cait           and I changed the prefs
17:08 cait           that are on the bug now
17:07 cait           I applied all patches
17:07 cait           um
17:07 Joubu          cait: So I don't understand how it works for you :)
17:07 Joubu          cait: because lines are commented
17:07 cait           Joubu: no, i didn't
17:07 Joubu          cait: did you modify your includes/doc-head-open.inc ?
17:07 cait           for the new logger at least
17:07 cait           oyu use the variable to define the file... so you need it
17:06 cait           only debug is ... on strike, vacation, I don't know
17:06 * jcamins      didn't know that.
17:06 jcamins        Oh.
17:06 cait           jcamins: info, warn, ... critical, they all work
17:06 cait           jcamins: I wouldn't see anything without it
17:06 * jcamins      has no idea.
17:06 jcamins        cait: do you need to set the DEBUG environment variable?
17:05 cait           it's puzzling
17:05 cait           and I get all logging messages to show up in the file and in the comments but debug
17:05 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8190 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Signed Off , Add a logging module to Koha, that can report log message to staff interface (for developer use)
17:05 cait           slef: testing bug 8190
17:04 huginn         jcamins: The operation succeeded.
17:04 jcamins        @later tell rangi Could you please install File::Find::Rule on Jenkins?
17:02 wahanui        very strange, debug is managed like others levels
17:02 slef           very strange, debug?
17:02 slef           the others are a long long way from home
16:59 jcamins        Oh, I figured out the third.
16:59 jcamins        That's two...
16:57 * jcamins      remembers the others.
16:57 jcamins        I had three bugs to report...
16:57 wahanui        i already had it that way, cait.
16:57 cait           $log->debug("This is a debug message");
16:57 cait           my line is:
16:57 cait           yeah, not sure what's wrong :(
16:56 Joubu          cait: very strange, debug is managed like others levels
16:56 cait           Joubu: little update - they all work except for debug.
16:56 jcamins        There isn't.
16:56 Joubu          I don't understand what is the question, If there is one... :)
16:54 jcamins        I think I push it, and file several bugs against the update database mechanism.
16:54 jcamins        I figured out how to use the interface.
16:54 jcamins        Sorry, that was a more general question.
16:54 Joubu          you "mark OK" 015 ?
16:53 jcamins        What do I do now?
16:53 jcamins        Okay...
16:53 jcamins        If I click "Mark OK" it works.
16:52 jcamins        That's a problem, because I can't get out of the update screen now.
16:52 jcamins        It only gives you the error when you click update.
16:51 jcamins        I was reading the code and figured out the problem.
16:51 jcamins        Oh, wait.
16:50 jcamins        Oh, I didn't manage to copy the output from the md5sum.
16:50 jcamins        The script wants to apply 3.11.000.015, even though it has the same md5sum as 3.11.000.013.
16:49 Joubu          jcamins: the script wants reapplied which one ?
16:48 jcamins        Joubu: that's from updatedb_report and md5sum.
16:48 Joubu          jcamins: for "whatever" ?
16:47 cait           I will add oneof each type now, but debug is giving problems
16:47 pastebot       "jcamins" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "MariaDB [koha]> select * from" (12 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/324
16:46 cait           still only info and error showing up
16:46 cait           same
16:46 Joubu          cait: yes
16:46 cait           but info is 6 and debug is 7?
16:46 Joubu          cait: and if you set the level to info ?
16:46 jcamins        Yeah, the md5 shows up correctly, but it wants to run the update again anyway.
16:45 Joubu          jcamins: could you confirm that ?
16:45 Joubu          jcamins: the first md5 should be in the updatedb_report.md5 field in your db
16:45 cait           Joubu: debug doesn#t work for me
16:44 cait           and it doesn't show up in the file either
16:44 jcamins        Yeah, confirmed, it doesn't work right with numbered versions.
16:44 cait           it doesn't show debug.
16:44 cait           <!-- LOG MESSAGES [Thu Dec 27 17:34:13 2012] INFO  : This is an information [Thu Dec 27 17:34:13 2012] ERROR : This is an error !  -->
16:43 cait           but I only see 2 lines in the source code
16:43 cait           so highest
16:43 cait           my log level is set to debug
16:43 cait           $log->error("This is an error !");
16:43 cait           $log->info("This is an information");
16:43 cait           $log->debug("This is a debug message");
16:43 cait           $log = Koha::Utils::Logger->new;
16:43 cait           use Koha::Utils::Logger qw/$log/;
16:43 cait           I have added following code at the top of mainpage.pl
16:43 cait           hmm
16:41 cait           getting late for you
16:41 cait           and Joubu++ too :)
16:41 cait           oleonard++ :)
16:41 jcamins        I'll check, but all I did was `mv file1 file2`
16:40 Joubu          jcamins: md5sum on the file before and after the rename gives you the same value ?
16:40 Joubu          jcamins: it should work
16:38 jcamins        When I rename an update file, the updatedb.pl script does not recognize I already applied it.
16:38 jcamins        Joubu: I just encountered a problem.
16:37 huginn         rambutan: The current temperature in Wyatt Park, St Joseph, Missouri is -4.2°C (10:36 AM CST on December 27, 2012). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 82%. Dew Point: -7.0°C. Windchill: -4.0°C. Pressure: 30.15 in 1021 hPa (Falling).
16:37 rambutan       @wunder 64507
16:37 jcamins        oleonard++
16:36 cait           and I got the messages to show up in my intranet :)
16:36 cait           you might have sensitive inofrmation in your variables
16:36 cait           I think it's probably better to have it not show up in opac
16:35 cait           Joubu: it's ok, I will make a note
16:35 Joubu          maybe we could ask khall
16:32 cait           or make it work for both
16:32 cait           maybe we shoudl rephrase the syspref a little bit to make it clear
16:30 cait           is this on purpose?
16:29 Joubu          logs are added in the koha-tmpl/intranet-tmpl/prog/en/includes/doc-head-open.inc
16:29 cait           ok, let me see if I can get it working
16:29 cait           that is an important point :)
16:29 cait           oh!
16:29 Joubu          cait: it is just at the intranet
16:29 cait           so far it looks good - if we get tis working I will try adding som different warns and errors to a file and see tht it all shows up, then hopefully can sign off
16:28 cait           thank you
16:28 Joubu          Yes, I will check the code, it is not my part
16:28 cait           and I was lookin gfor DEBUG in the html source code of the opac result list after performing my search
16:27 cait           sample from the file: [27/12/2012 17:25:11] INFO  : OPAC: Search for kw,wrdl,rtrn=singen
16:27 cait           only struggling with the embed to html bit right now
16:27 cait           and the file content has all my searches now
16:27 cait           because I saw that there is an example in the patch for that file
16:27 Joubu          ok :)
16:27 cait           Joubu: i know :) I am looking and opac-search
16:27 Joubu          not all logs in your file
16:27 Joubu          cait: I forgot 1 point, sorry... In fact the log displayed on your screen are only log written by the Logger module.
16:25 cait           my koha user is katrin
16:25 cait           how should the perms look like?
16:24 cait           maybe I still have something wrong with my permissions?
16:23 cait           sorry, had to open the door
16:23 cait           Joubu: yes, switched on
16:14 jenkins_koha   Starting build #992 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #987 7 days 2 hr ago)
16:14 Joubu          LogToHtmlComments
16:13 jcamins        Joubu: I'm the only one who will touch that, though.
16:13 Joubu          cait: Have you switch on the syspref ?
16:12 Joubu          jcamins: maybe a line about the C4::Context::final_linear_version routine? In order to be exhaustive
16:12 huginn         oleonard: The operation succeeded.
16:12 oleonard       @later tell rangi The "Needs Signoff" link from the new dashboard doesn't work. Bugzilla says the search doesn't exist.
16:10 cait           Joubu: I have something in the file now, but not in the HTML source
16:10 jcamins        Joubu: I revised the page. Anything else I am missing?
16:10 jcamins        Okay...
16:09 cait           I think I might have figured it out now
16:09 Joubu          cait: yes
16:09 cait           Joubu: hm then it will end up in the existing logs?
16:08 jcamins        I thought it was some sort of magic in list_versions, and I wasn't finding it.
16:08 Joubu          cait: for a easy test you can set your KOHA_LOG == LOG
16:07 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9206 enhancement, P1 - high, ---, vfernandes, Pushed to Master , Only allow place holds in records that the patron don't have in his possession
16:07 jenkins_koha   * jcamins: Bug 9206: Increment version number
16:07 jenkins_koha   * jonathan.druart: Bug 9206: Followup QA FIX
16:07 jenkins_koha   * kyle: Bug 9206 - Only allow place holds in records that the patron don't have in his possession - QA Followup
16:07 jenkins_koha   * vfernandes: Bug 9206 - Only allow place holds in records that the patron don't have in his possession
16:07 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8377 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, mirko, Pushed to Master , Show HTML5 video/ audio for media files in OPAC and staff client
16:07 jenkins_koha   * jcamins: Bug 8377 follow-up: fix update message
16:07 jenkins_koha   * jcamins: Bug 8377: Increment version number
16:07 jenkins_koha   * jonathan.druart: Bug 8377: Followup move style in a css file and do not pass template to a pm
16:07 jenkins_koha   * mirko: Bug 8377 [ENH] Show HTML5 video/ audio for media files in OPAC and staff client
16:07 jenkins_koha   Project Koha_master build #991: STILL UNSTABLE in 1 hr 6 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/991/
16:07 jcamins        Okay, now I understand.
16:07 cait           I have the dumb today.
16:06 cait           ok, can someone help me with file permissions?
16:06 jcamins        Ohhh.
16:06 Joubu          jcamins: it is just a hidden/shown link in the template
16:05 jcamins        Oh, I see it in the message, just not in C4::Update::Database.
16:05 Joubu          jcamins: http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/attachment.cgi?id=13851
16:04 Joubu          jcamins: in the commit message, search "DEBUG"
16:04 jcamins        I don't see any reference to that either.
16:03 jcamins        Joubu: hm, okay.
16:02 Joubu          jcamins: it is the DEBUG env var
15:58 jcamins        Joubu: I can't see anywhere what setting needs to be changed in koha-conf.xml to allow people to apply non-numeric updates.
15:55 cait           -rw-rw-r-- 1 katrin katrin
15:55 cait           hm looks liek this
15:54 cait           that could be the problem, let me check
15:54 Joubu          cait: the file must have writing right for www-data
15:54 cait           SetEnv KOHA_LOG "/home/katrin/koha-dev/var/log/opac.log"
15:54 cait           that's my line from the apache configuration
15:53 cait           I created a new file
15:53 cait           yes
15:53 jcamins        Ooh, right... I don't say how to install updates at all.
15:53 Joubu          cait: Have you your KOHA_LOG environment variable defined to an existing file ?
15:53 Joubu          jcamins: you forgot to notify the misc/updatedb.pl script (with the -all option)
15:50 jcamins        Oh, the .pl has to be executable.
15:49 jcamins        Anything I'm missing?
15:49 jcamins        Joubu: http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Database_updates
15:43 cait           Joubu: any cluewhat i am doing wrong?
15:39 cait           Log system is not correctly configured (Can't call method "opened" on an undefined value at /usr/share/perl5/Log/LogLite.pm line 42. ) at /home/katrin/kohaclone/Koha/Utils/Logger.pm line 50.
15:39 cait           hm bah.
15:32 cait           Joubu++
15:31 huginn         New commit(s) kohagit: Add Bernardo Gonzalez Kriegel to history <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=1d7ad3fb83e22188cc6775f73dcaba31653438a8> / Bug 9315: Bad version of String::Random reported by koha_perl_deps.pl <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=1f50a30b03abe8c6055d75012b0e425e1ef75ad3> / Merge branch 'bug_7368' into 3.12-master <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commi
15:20 cait           :)
15:20 cait           oh
15:20 oleonard       The new dashboard
15:20 cait           hm?
15:20 oleonard       Bootstrappy
15:19 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8190 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Signed Off , Add a logging module to Koha, that can report log message to staff interface (for developer use)
15:19 cait           bug 8190
15:19 * cait         is trying to make the log messages show up in the source code
15:16 jcamins        Very nice!
15:16 jcamins        I did, yes.
15:15 cait           have you all seen the revamped dashboard? http://dashboard.koha-community.org/ :)
15:10 huginn         cait: Karma for "jcamins" has been increased 474 times and decreased 2 times for a total karma of 472.
15:10 cait           @karma jcamins
15:10 cait           jcamins++
15:08 cait           yes :)
15:08 cait           hehe
15:05 chris_n        s/push/pushy/
15:05 * chris_n      thinks its great when the rm gets push :)
15:01 huginn         New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 9206: Increment version number <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=e9d40f74bbde0772aabcf2dc6ba82fac7db4b88e> / Bug 9206: Followup QA FIX <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=7fc4be502d27d77a653f66fb9ea7de50560cfca6> / Bug 9206 - Only allow place holds in records that the patron don't have in his posses... <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitd
15:01 jenkins_koha   Starting build #991 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #987 7 days 1 hr ago)
14:50 cait           yepI think so
14:50 oleonard       _("Do this");
14:50 oleonard       i.e. _('Don\'t do this')
14:50 oleonard       Didn't we decide that strings inside the _( ) function should be quoted always with double quotes instead of single quotes?
14:48 oleonard       en-NZ. I've seen the same error with fr-FR I think
14:46 cait           which language did you try?
14:45 cait           fredericd said it's to do with some comments I think
14:45 cait           maybe druthb could take a look
14:45 cait           I think there is a bug forthat
14:43 oleonard       $key, not #key, of course.
14:42 oleonard       "Use of uninitialized value #key in hash element at /usr/share/perl5/Locale/PO.pm..."
14:42 oleonard       I get lots of errors when I run 'translate install' or 'translate update.' Is that normal?
13:37 * cait         sends oleonard lemon juice with honey too
13:35 oleonard       magnuse: Exactly!
13:30 magnuse        much better to get some rest at work then ;-)
13:29 oleonard       I would take time off work to rest, but my kids are at home all day for holiday break, so I wouldn't get any rest ;)
13:28 oleonard       The same :|
13:27 cait           how is the cold?
13:27 cait           hi oleonard :)
13:26 oleonard       Hi #koha
12:35 WaqarAzeem     Hi, I have droped the database and re-run the web-installer with ICU option ... but somehow .. zebra indexer is not indexing the data again ... neighter it is deleting the old data ... cron job starts after 10 min and exists without donig any thing. Is this some sort of side effect of deleting the database?
11:24 cait           still reading all the comments...
11:21 cait           I will try to fix them- update database and dependencies
11:21 cait           there are someconflicts
11:19 cait           no need to be sorry :)
11:19 Joubu          cait: yep, sorry. i'm back
11:16 cait           Joubu: I am starting to look at 8190
11:10 cait           Joubu: are you still around?
10:47 magnuse        yay
10:47 * cait         sends hot lemon juice with honey
10:47 cait           oleonard got the same gift he said
10:47 cait           oh
10:47 magnuse        cait: yup, except getting a cold...
10:44 cait           magnuse: did you have nice holidays?
10:30 magnuse        kia ora cait
10:29 cait           hi magnuse :)
10:23 * magnuse      waves
10:23 WaqarAzeem     Hi, I think rebuild_zebra.pl -b -r -v is not deleting the old index data ... I need to clear all old indexed data
09:16 cait           brb
09:15 cait           :)
09:15 Joubu          cait: yes and many librarians I think, it is a great feature!
09:10 cait           Joubu: I think you just made drojf very happy :)
08:42 cait           rangi did it last night
08:41 cait           yep
08:41 Joubu          a new dashboard!
08:40 cait           http://dashboard.koha-community.org/
08:39 cait           lots of qa work :)
08:39 Joubu          cait: ? :)
08:38 huginn         cait: The current temperature in Reutlingen, Germany is 9.0°C (9:36 AM CET on December 27, 2012). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 40%. Dew Point: -4.0°C. Windchill: 8.0°C. Pressure: 29.83 in 1010 hPa (Steady).
08:38 cait           @wunder Reutlingen
08:38 huginn         cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 5.0°C (9:35 AM CET on December 27, 2012). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 91%. Dew Point: 4.0°C. Windchill: 5.0°C. Pressure: 29.95 in 1014 hPa (Steady).
08:38 cait           @wunder Konstanz
08:37 cait           Joubu++
08:33 cait           good morning #koha
08:08 wahanui        niihau, francharb
08:08 francharb      hello
08:01 wahanui        hi, Joubu
08:01 Joubu          hello
04:00 wizzyrea       ttyl :) hope les mis was fun and good!
04:00 wizzyrea       whee!
04:00 wizzyrea       gracious, time to go
03:59 wizzyrea       naw, popcorn is really easy if you just pay attention :)
03:59 jcamins_away   (I always thought it was a lot harder)
03:58 jcamins_away   Real popcorn that I successfully popped on the stove-top without burning the building down.
03:57 jcamins_away   We're eating popcorn post-Les Mis.
03:56 jcamins_away     11
03:56 wizzyrea       well what, 10pm?
03:56 wizzyrea       it is late
03:56 wizzyrea       go to bed.
03:56 * wizzyrea     doubts it
03:56 * wizzyrea     hopes it's not broken
03:56 wizzyrea       oh yes that :)
03:56 jcamins_away   3.6.11.
03:56 wizzyrea       what?
03:52 jcamins_away   wizzyrea++
02:43 tweetbot`      [off] twitter: @maryakem: "via @jordanheit RT @libriotech "To standalone or not to standalone" http://t.co/K1JwLW9q  #kohails #lod #semantikoha #marcmustdie"
02:09 rangi          and to you too
02:09 rangi          yeah, it certainly throws up some curly ones
02:09 JDatTeTakere   Will keep you posted re: report results.  Happy New Year to you both.
02:09 JDatTeTakere   That returns chute is a bit of a problem isn't it.
02:09 rangi          be good to do that report and see how many arent set and then we can track down why
02:09 rangi          no worries
02:09 JDatTeTakere   Thanks heaps for that. Much appreciated.
02:09 rangi          but thats just a guess
02:08 rangi          my bet its something to do with the return chutes not setting location or something
02:08 rangi          that will stop it happening again
02:08 JDatTeTakere   Thanks...and I just did the other one.
02:08 rangi          but yes finding any items that dont have the current location set would be a good report
02:08 rangi          yep, i just fixed them all in the issues table
02:08 JDatTeTakere   Thanks rangi.  Apparently this is happening a fair bit. I should be able to run a report shouldn't I, identifying any items with no current location?
02:08 rangi          i just renewed psychic ok
02:07 rangi          yep that was it
02:07 rangi          thats how it got in this pickle
02:06 rangi          when it got issued, it must have had the currentbranch not set
02:06 rangi          ill fix those 2 rows
02:06 rangi          to work out the renewal rules
02:06 rangi          and cant find it
02:06 rangi          it will be trying to find the branch of where they were issued
02:05 rangi          in the issues table the issuingbranch is set to null
02:05 rangi          ahh i think i know the problem
02:04 rangi          hmm still hunting round
02:04 wizzyrea       hey that works
02:04 JDatTeTakere   Any other ideas rangi?
02:04 JDatTeTakere   Lounging yes. Swimming = soaking in small paddling pool.
02:03 wizzyrea       jransom said she did a lot of swimming an lounging, I suspect your day was similar?
02:02 wizzyrea       holy smokes.
02:02 JDatTeTakere   Was 34 at my place.
02:01 wizzyrea       !
02:01 wizzyrea       ouch
02:01 wizzyrea       29.8 at the airport, I guess.
02:01 wizzyrea       s/c/C/
02:01 * wizzyrea     was not expecting 30c
02:01 JDatTeTakere   I'm still suffering though - got sunburnt on Xmas Day. Ouch.
02:00 wizzyrea       almost chilly!
02:00 wizzyrea       today is much cooler :)
02:00 wizzyrea       I did!
02:00 JDatTeTakere   Hope wizzyrea enjoyed her hot summer.
02:00 JDatTeTakere   Merry Christmas to you too.
01:59 rangi          and that usually fixes it
01:59 rangi          thats normally what it is
01:59 rangi          *nod*
01:59 JDatTeTakere   The current location WAS missing, when I clicked Edit they were there but I clicked save anyway.
01:59 rangi          i hope it was nice and relaxing
01:59 rangi          merry christmas by the way :)
01:58 rangi          hmm yeah thats an odd one they look fine
01:57 rangi          righto
01:57 JDatTeTakere   Items = the 2 on that borrower
01:57 JDatTeTakere   Thanks Chris - borrower = K00015678
01:56 rangi          if you give me the barcodes i can take a look :)
01:55 JDatTeTakere   Tried that - the prob first occured on desk and I'm now on my PC so not the client. Have edited items, still can't renew.
01:54 rangi          those are the 3 places it cares about branches, the borrowers, the items, and the one you have set
01:53 rangi          and you choose a branch when you logged into the staff client eh?
01:52 rangi          then try renewing it again
01:52 rangi          id try editing one item and set the branch for both home and current branch
01:51 JDatTeTakere   Yes as long as I'm looking in the right place.
01:50 rangi          does the borrower?
01:49 JDatTeTakere   Hi guys :-) When renewing 2 items I'm getting a software error "No branchcode argument to new.  Should be C4::Calendar->new(branchcode => $branchcode) at /usr/share/koha/lib/C4/Circulation.pm line 2709". Google Search suggested the items had no current location.  I searched them both and they have one.
01:48 wizzyrea       hi, go ahead :)
01:48 rangi          fire away JDatTeTakere
01:48 JDatTeTakere   Hi everyone. We have an error here at Te Takere I hope someone can help me with.
01:47 rangi          probably do the random quote at around 10 mins
01:46 rangi          yeah
01:46 ibeardslee     random bug would want to roll over more often than the random quote
01:45 rangi          should be twice as long now (after a reload anyway)
01:44 rangi          yeah i can wind that down some
01:43 ibeardslee     probably wouldn't want to roll the random quote over so often?
01:39 cait           night all :)
01:39 cait           :)
01:36 wizzyrea       hehehehe
01:36 rangi          it's still true
01:36 huginn         rangi: Quote #153: "<rangi> merging code in git doesn't make me angry, I just think back to svn and cvs, and git could punch me in the face and it would still be better" (added by gmcharlt at 07:49 PM, September 13, 2011)
01:36 rangi          @quote random
01:35 * rangi        wants to add a random quote by the random bug
01:35 rangi          hmm i wonder if there is a way to query huginn from the dashboard
01:35 * wizzyrea     tries
01:35 * wizzyrea     wonders if it holds through that
01:35 wizzyrea       that is... unexpected behavior.
01:34 wizzyrea       SNEAKY
01:34 wizzyrea       because it assumes that the tobranch is the next frombranch
01:34 rangi          heh nope
01:34 wizzyrea       oh, it's not
01:34 * wizzyrea     didn't know this was possible.
01:33 wizzyrea       can you think of a reason why the same item would be going from branch a to branch b, branch a to branch c, and branch a to branch d all at the same time?
01:26 cait           so pretty
01:26 cait           rangi++
01:22 tweetbot`      [off] twitter: @ranginui: "revamped the #kohails dashboard for the new year http://t.co/NPeDHjf7"
01:12 cait           so cool
01:11 rangi          refresh ;)
01:09 wizzyrea       pretty :)
01:09 wizzyrea       and that's quite good, rangi
01:09 wizzyrea       lulz
01:09 wizzyrea       ...but it still says both are arrived
01:07 rangi          http://dashboard.koha-community.org/ check it
01:05 wizzyrea       well that's reasonably smart - if an item has a reserve transit on it, and someone adds a manual transfer, it transfers from the reserve transfer's destination instead of the current logged in branch.
01:04 * cait         hopes you will find your way back
01:02 wizzyrea       oh god I've gone down the reserves rabbit hole.
01:02 * wizzyrea     boggles, why would one set a date arrived before the item was actually sent
01:00 wizzyrea       ^^
01:00 ibeardslee     typing it
00:58 wizzyrea       and i'm not just saying that.
00:58 wizzyrea       transfers and holds are tricky business.
00:58 wizzyrea       hehe
00:58 cait           ok pretty sure this is going over my head righ tnow :)
00:57 wizzyrea       also interesting, if you have two more or less identical transfers, excepting the bit about how they got there, they are both completed when the non-reserve transfer is completed.
00:52 wizzyrea       but we have to be careful when smooshing it
00:52 wizzyrea       this is probably one of the last of its kind, so that's good. :)
00:51 wizzyrea       double prompts in certain situations is a very, very old bug
00:51 cait           but i was wondering about htis one and very glad you are takinga look at it
00:51 cait           not sure I can follow
00:51 wizzyrea       s/plan/plain/
00:50 cait           wizzyrea++
00:50 wizzyrea       I think not seeing the double prompt is probably more of a problem than seeing it, in all truth - until/unless transfers reference the reserve that they go with, it's going to continue to be a problem to differentiate between plan transfers and reserve transfers.
00:49 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8451 minor, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Signed Off , Confusing and problematic double prompt for processing transfers
00:49 wizzyrea       i'm looking at bug 8451
00:49 cait           :)
00:49 huginn         wizzyrea: Quote #123: "rangi: #thingsihavelearnt if there is a mad scheme a library somewhere will be doing it ... except madder" (added by wizzyrea at 09:20 PM, March 30, 2011)
00:49 wizzyrea       @quote get 123
00:49 wizzyrea       idk why you would do this but
00:48 wizzyrea       like moved from "waiting" to priority 1, for example
00:48 cait           demoted?
00:46 rangi          yeah
00:46 wizzyrea       why is that one item sacred
00:46 wizzyrea       I think a demoted hold should lose it's itemnumber too - since you are basically putting it back in the pot with the rest of the reserves again
00:45 wizzyrea       I just noticed this when I was playing around - it explains a lot of things about how reserves end up the way they do
00:44 rangi          hmm the latter i think
00:42 wizzyrea       and go back to being an "any item"
00:42 wizzyrea       do you think it is better to have an item, once assigned to a reserve, be assigned forever (for example, place a reserve, mark it waiting, then demote it to a priority - it turns from an "any available" to an "only item") or should a demoted hold lose it's itemnumber?
00:40 wizzyrea       hm