Time  Nick           Message
23:48 rangi          cya tcohen
23:47 tcohen         bye every1, happy weekend
23:47 rangi          also http://jenkins.koha-community.org//plugin/jenkinswalldisplay/walldisplay.html?viewName=Tous&jenkinsUrl=http%3A%2F%2Fjenkins.koha-community.org%2F
23:45 rangi          to help people spot the failure cause faster
23:45 rangi          I've tried to get it identify problems
23:45 rangi          check it out
23:45 rangi          http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Docs/246/
23:44 jenkins_koha   Project Koha_Docs build #246: STILL FAILING in 8 min 19 sec: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Docs/246/
23:43 jenkins_koha   Starting build #246 for job Koha_Docs (previous build: STILL FAILING -- last SUCCESS #60 7 mo 14 days ago)
23:41 jenkins_koha   Starting build #970 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #966 3 days 9 hr ago)
23:37 drojf          jcamins_away: so far marc in T::T works well for me. i will play more with it tomorrow and sign off if nothing funny is happening
23:37 huginn         New commit(s) kohagit: Merge branch 'bug_7919' into 3.12-master <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=1b91dbdc29d66bd2a7a635bf6549b0c964f50d4d> / Bug 7919: Fix unit test (Members_AttributeTypes.t) <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=3eec0e96ecac50c560640b4525f12adaf36b7122>
23:35 jcamins_away   Ah.
23:35 drojf          [off] switzerland
23:35 drojf          [off] http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/KohaUsers/Europe
23:34 jcamins_away   [off] What?
23:34 drojf          [off] oh, "koha 2.2 supported by liblime"
23:33 drojf          [off] the World Intellectual Property Organization is using koha? some people should not be allowed to use free software
23:26 wahanui        broken is not what we want.
23:26 tcohen         whats broken?
23:08 libsysguy      I needed a little break
23:08 libsysguy      np
23:07 rangi          libsysguy++
23:07 rangi          ta
23:07 libsysguy      done
23:03 rangi          it will allow the packages to build again, so easy fix for an annoying problem
23:03 libsysguy      :p
23:03 libsysguy      oh fine you talked me into it
23:02 rangi          and it only touches the test file
23:02 libsysguy      :p
23:02 rangi          after they pass
23:02 libsysguy      I've got my eye set on a project of a different kind atm
23:02 rangi          before the patch the unit tests explode
23:02 libsysguy      heh
23:02 rangi          easy qa on that libsysguy :)
23:02 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7919 new feature, P1 - high, ---, jonathan.druart, Signed Off , Display of values depending on the connexion library (authorised values, patron categories, extended attributes)
23:02 rangi          bug 7919
23:01 rangi          yep
23:01 libsysguy      i know, but its fun to say
23:01 rangi          i dont care who broke something, i care who will fix it
23:01 rangi          blame isnt really useful for anything imho
23:00 libsysguy      git point --finger?
23:00 wahanui        git blame is handy, but it's just one tool in our debugging arsenal
23:00 libsysguy      git blame
23:00 wahanui        git blame is handy, but it's just one tool in our debugging arsenal
23:00 libsysguy      git blame
22:59 rangi          ah yep, there is a patch for it, just signed off
22:59 libsysguy      who's commit id is that
22:57 rangi          in case ppl are wondering
22:57 rangi          acbfe26c9ef6e40f4509babd6e1d39e1762e13e3
22:55 rangi          we know what broke the unit tests in master eh?
21:26 drojf          [off] right?!
21:26 libsysguy      [off] damn them
21:25 drojf          [off] lousy workshop participants, not doing the evaluation survey immediately after i sent it out on a friday afternoon :P
21:24 cait           bye #koha
21:24 cait           I think i tmight be time to go to sleep :)
21:24 cait           lol
21:23 libsysguy      :p
21:23 libsysguy      well if you are talking about the band it's U2
21:23 libsysguy      heh
21:23 cait           hmpf
21:23 cait           can never get too/to/2 right
21:23 libsysguy      can't take us anywhere
21:23 cait           you 2
21:22 libsysguy      maybeee
21:21 cait           are you too playing a game here?
21:20 libsysguy      darn, I was hoping it was OVER 9000!!!!
21:20 huginn         libsysguy: Karma for "rangi" has been increased 711 times and decreased 5 times for a total karma of 706.
21:20 libsysguy      @karma rangi
21:20 libsysguy      this one should be good:
21:20 libsysguy      argh drojf you win again
21:17 huginn         drojf: Karma for "drojf" has been increased 51 times and decreased 2 times for a total karma of 49.
21:17 drojf          @karma drojf
21:04 huginn         libsysguy: Karma for "jcamins" has been increased 462 times and decreased 2 times for a total karma of 460.
21:04 libsysguy      @karma jcamins
21:04 huginn         libsysguy: Karma for "libsysguy" has been increased 31 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 31.
21:04 libsysguy      @karma libsysguy
20:54 drojf          i kicked the squeeze (now 3.10) repo out of http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Koha_3.8_on_Debian_Squeeze and left only oldstable (3.8) in. i'm not doing anything more to that page (like set up Koha_3.10_on_Debian_Squeeze for now as 3.10 packages are broken
20:40 * drojf        wonders where to find the percentage of perl in the picture
20:39 drojf          lol if that is the answer he should work on the question
20:35 * jcamins_away leaves
20:34 jcamins_away   wtf?
20:01 * druthb       thinks they should be.
20:01 huginn         jcamins_away: Karma for "jcamins_away" has been increased 20 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 20.
20:01 jcamins_away   @karma jcamins_away
20:01 jcamins_away   I thought your karma had been combined.
20:01 huginn         jcamins_away: Karma for "cait" has been increased 343 times and decreased 1 time for a total karma of 342.
20:01 jcamins_away   @karma cait
20:01 huginn         jcamins_away: Karma for "kf" has been increased 219 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 219.
20:01 jcamins_away   @karma kf
20:00 cait           some people gave both karma... so we will never be able to figure it out :)
20:00 druthb         If it actually knew that kf and cait were the same person, you'd be third.
20:00 cait           oh i almost caught up with wizzyrea :)
19:59 huginn         druthb: "rangi": 711, "oleonard": 607, "jcamins": 462, "wizzyrea": 357, "cait": 343, "gmcharlt": 335, "chris_n": 310, "paul_p": 273, "sekjal": 245, "nengard": 232, "kf": 219, "magnuse": 193, "slef": 170, "druthb": 162, "eythian": 150, "fredericd": 95, "hdl": 69, "marcelr": 65, "biblibre": 65, "mveron": 64, "hdl_laptop": 60, "mtj": 56, "jwagner": 54, "tcohen": 52, and "drojf": 51
19:59 druthb         @most increased
19:59 huginn         druthb: Highest karma: "rangi" (706), "oleonard" (602), and "jcamins" (460).  Lowest karma: "<!" (-112), "failed" (-95), and "-" (-68).  You (druthb) are ranked 14 out of 2318.
19:59 druthb         @karma
19:59 cait           thx rangi++ and druthb++
19:51 * druthb       sets out pans of troll-chow on the perimeter, to draw them away.
19:50 huginn         druthb: The operation succeeded.  Quote #222 added.
19:50 druthb         @quote add jcamins: test patches, don't feed trolls.
19:46 rangi          added to bugzilla
19:45 cait           meh.
19:45 huginn         cait: Error: You must be registered to use this command. If you are already registered, you must either identify (using the identify command) or add a hostmask matching your current hostmask (using the "hostmask add" command).
19:45 cait           @quote add jcamins: test patches, don't feed trolls.
19:45 jcamins_away   "Respect the Koha community: test patches, don't feed trolls."
19:45 cait           rangi: can you add that to the quotes in bugzilla? :)
19:44 jcamins_away   That should be in the mailing list footer.
19:44 rangi          :)
19:44 * jcamins_away hopes no one else wastes their time on that one. Test patches, don't feed trolls.
19:43 jcamins_away   (from me)
19:43 jcamins_away   Last response to that thread.
19:43 * jcamins_away responded.
19:40 rangi          it does
19:40 cait           looks like someone wants us to do his homework
19:34 jcamins_away   *whatever
19:34 jcamins_away   *head off at the cut
19:34 jcamins_away   See if we can cut off the silliness at the head.
19:34 jcamins_away   Maybe I should, actually.
19:34 rangi          yeah thats about it
19:33 * jcamins_away considers responding: No. / What does that even mean? The manual at manual.koha-community.org discusses what the system does. / The "client" is a web browser. The server is a traditional LAMP server." / There is not.
19:32 rangi          heh
19:32 * cait         thinks rangi is insensitive to architecture threads too
19:31 * rangi        ignores the architecture thread
19:31 rangi          heh
19:27 rangi          heh too earthquakes yep
19:26 slef           rangi: yebbut you're insensitive, aren't you?
19:26 rangi          i didnt feel it
19:26 slef           "The largest quake to hit New Zealand this morning was a 5.8 quake which struck at 7.19am. It was 175 kilometres deep and centred 20km south east of Tokoroa. It was felt widely throughout the central North Island, as far north as Auckland and as far south as Marlborough. The quake was one of 24 quakes."
19:23 jcamins_away   Yikes!
19:22 rangi          http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/8054238/North-Island-woken-by-earthquake
19:21 wahanui        "What are you trying to do?" or "What is the goal?"
19:21 slef           first question?
19:20 wahanui        fifth question is "Are we there yet?"
19:20 slef           fifth question?
19:20 wahanui        slef: I forgot eight question
19:20 slef           wahanui: forget eight question
19:20 wahanui        OK, slef.
19:20 slef           wahanui: eighth question is "come on now - haven't you got homes to go to?"
19:19 slef           oops
19:19 wahanui        OK, slef.
19:19 slef           wahanui: eight question is "come on now - haven't you got homes to go to?"
19:19 jcamins_away   You can also do a regex substitute thing.
19:19 wahanui        OK, slef.
19:19 slef           wahanui: seventh question is <reply> "are you really this bored?"
19:18 wahanui        slef: i don't know
19:18 slef           wahanui: seventh question is <reply> are you really this bored?
19:18 wahanui        slef: i haven't a clue
19:18 slef           wahanui: seventh question? is <reply> are you really this bored?
19:18 wahanui        somebody said sixth question was "Why are you still asking wahanui?" or "How bored are you?"
19:18 jcamins_away   sixth question?
19:18 jcamins_away   eighth question?
19:18 wahanui        no idea, slef
19:18 slef           wahanui: seventh question?
19:18 jcamins_away   lol
19:18 slef           arrrrrgh recursion infinite loop firey death arrrrgh
19:17 slef           jcamins_away: same here but most of the time, I've no idea what the problem is. That's the problem. ;-)
19:15 jcamins_away   Yay!
19:07 drojf          i confirm that it works :) try to break it later
19:06 drojf          will try when i'm back
19:06 drojf          cool
19:06 * drojf        tries the walking off/shopping thing again
19:06 jcamins_away   Now I know what the problem is, I fixed it.
19:06 jcamins_away   \o/
19:06 drojf          first person to click through my post-workshop evaluation survey voted 'chance we will be using koha increased by workshop' and 'will definitely use/recommend to my people' \o/
19:00 drojf          perl 5.14? that's witchcraft
18:56 wahanui        interesting is sometimes good and sometimes bad
18:56 jcamins_away   Interesting.
18:54 jcamins_away   That is indeed the case.
18:54 jcamins_away   Yup.
18:52 jcamins_away   I wonder if it's because I have Perl 5.14.
18:51 * drojf        walks off for shopping
18:50 jcamins_away   Oh, different ones.
18:49 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9202 new feature, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Failed QA , TT plugin to allow direct display of MARC::Records
18:49 pastebot       "drojf" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "error bug 9202" (9 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/303
18:47 jcamins_away   Same error message?
18:46 jcamins_away   drojf: you can set it back to "Failed QA," and I'll try to troubleshoot it when I'm at home.
18:46 drojf          jcamins_away: doesn't work for me
18:39 jcamins_away   If that doesn't work, I'll troubleshoot further when I have a few spare minutes at home.
18:38 jcamins_away   Both patches work for me, oddly.
18:38 jcamins_away   Okay, try that one.
18:37 rangi          catalyst academy
18:37 drojf          jcamins_away: something magical you left out of the patch? :)
18:37 drojf          rangi: it's a student project? that's cool.
18:36 jcamins_away   Or, rather, why it wasn't an issue when I used the script yesterday.
18:36 jcamins_away   Hm... I think I see what the problem is, though I don't see why it would be an issue.
18:35 drojf          ah ok
18:34 drojf          Template process failed: plugin error - Type of arg 1 to push must be array (not hash element) at /home/mirko/koha/Koha/Template/Plugin/MARC.pm line 225, near "$fieldobj;"
18:34 jcamins_away   khall reports that it doesn't work.
18:34 jcamins_away   drojf: that is how you would do it.
18:34 drojf          jcamins_away: how would i get the marc record loaded in your T::T plugin? i thought i would do something like $template->param(mymarc => $record); in my perl file for the [% USE record = MARC(mymarc) %] but that does not work
18:30 jcamins_away   (hint: they're very cool!)
18:30 rangi          nope
18:30 jcamins_away   Oh, I thought it was a demo of how cool webservice APIs are.
18:30 rangi          it's a learning tool for teaching android programming, some more students will be working on it in january adding some more features
18:29 rangi          kiritakikoha does searches, and holds, including searching via barcode
18:16 gaetan_B       bye !
18:02 gerundio       have a nice weekend everyone
17:59 * oleonard     cuts out early
17:57 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=3462 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Pushed to Master , Link see also in authorities
17:57 jcamins_away   Bug 3462, maybe?
17:55 gaetan_B       what was the original bz ?
17:54 jcamins_away   So, bug.
17:54 gaetan_B       hmm
17:54 jcamins_away   gaetan_B: I was told it was a feature. My original patch included the summary only, and I was asked for a follow-up that included the standardized concatenation.
17:54 gaetan_B       (my default authority has no summary)
17:53 gaetan_B       is it because of the way my default authority is set up or is it a bug ?
17:53 gaetan_B       in authorities framework one can define a summary, when searching for a specific authority type at opac, the results display both the summary and a standardized concatenation of the authority
17:53 jcamins_away   maximep: is there any reason that the CSS in colors.css shouldn't be moved to opac.css?
17:52 jcamins_away   We should check with maximep to be sure.
17:50 * oleonard     would like to see that happen
17:49 jcamins_away   I don't think so- all that CSS could be moved into opac.css.
17:49 oleonard       Is there a good reason for requiring that the user configure colors.css for the CCSR theme?
17:47 oleonard       I think it's a good idea for theme developers who are comfortable with working with CSS overrides.
17:43 jcamins_away   Anyway, my point was, I think that's a good idea, and I wanted to know what you thought.
17:41 jcamins_away   I hadn't thought of that.
17:41 jcamins_away   Good call.
17:41 jcamins_away   Oh, because we do that in a .inc file.
17:41 oleonard       ...or just <link> it.
17:41 jcamins_away   When we have a theme that is basically the same as prog but with just enough incompatible change that it would break things for everyone else, we should use @import.
17:40 oleonard       I would make sense to @import prog/opac.css for CCSR in that case
17:40 oleonard       Okay, I misunderstood
17:40 jcamins_away   I'm not saying it should be a requirement for *all* themes.
17:39 jcamins_away   oleonard: right, in that case that person should not use @import to import the prog CSS.
17:39 gerundio       oleonard, not really, they just would have to remove the @include instruction on the beginning of the CSS file
17:39 oleonard       jcamins_away: But someone could also want to create a theme which differs drastically from prog, and they would have to override many many things rather than start from scratch
17:37 jcamins_away   Because right now if there's a problematic CSS definition in prog, we change it, but might leave it the same in ccsr.
17:37 gerundio       btw, the existence of the same CSS file in 2 places should be considered if you want to run the 2 instances separately
17:37 oleonard       Why?
17:36 jcamins_away   It is in terms of reducing bugs.
17:36 oleonard       I'm not sure that is really more efficient jcamins_away.
17:36 jcamins_away   Available as of IE 5.5.
17:36 huginn         jcamins_away: downloading the Perl source
17:36 jcamins_away   @import not @include
17:36 jcamins_away   Yes.
17:36 gerundio       you're talking about https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/CSS/@import, right?
17:35 jcamins_away   I suspect when I copied opac.css I didn't know that was possible.
17:35 jcamins_away   Yes.
17:35 oleonard       Oh, you're saying non-prog themes should include prog/opac.css by default and only override what is necessary
17:34 jcamins_away   koha-tmpl/opac-tmpl/ccsr/en/opac.css is nearly identical to koha-tmpl/opac-tmpl/prog/en/opac.css.
17:34 jcamins_away   By making CSS in non-prog themes contain overridden elements only and include the prog stylesheets, we get to cut down on the amount of cruft.
17:34 oleonard       ?
17:33 jcamins_away   But it means we have duplicate stale definitions in non-prog themes.
17:32 jcamins_away   Which is good.
17:32 jcamins_away   No.
17:32 oleonard       No... Do we do that?
17:31 jcamins_away   oleonard: but we don't want to forcibly include all prog stylesheets when rendering non-prog pages.
17:31 oleonard       I still don't understand what you were trying to get at jcamins_away, but I think @include doesn't really offer any advantage that the regular cascade of <link>ed stylesheets doesn't have
17:29 * jcamins_away will be quiet now.
17:29 oleonard       That line isn't actually relevant, meaning the only problem references are in sanop.css
17:29 jcamins_away   Right, so, the idea still applies to opac.css.
17:28 oleonard       it didn't, it turned up a reference in staff-global.css to a file which is named the same as one in the OPAC
17:28 * jcamins_away doesn't understand why Kyle's grep turned up staff-global.css in a ccsr directory.
17:28 jcamins_away   That's a good point.
17:28 oleonard       I don't understand, CCSR doesn't have a staff component
17:27 jcamins_away   However, because of the way we have Apache configured, I had to copy all the CSS over anyway.
17:27 jcamins_away   I think it has ~3 differences.
17:27 jcamins_away   The staff-global.css for the CCSR theme is almost identical to that in prog.
17:26 jcamins_away   You already removed an identical reference from the file in prog.
17:26 jcamins_away   There's a stale reference to an image in staff-global.css in the CCSR theme.
17:26 oleonard       I don't see what you're getting at
17:25 jcamins_away   The ones in CCSR.
17:25 jcamins_away   I don't know why I didn't think of it before. We could simply replace the staff-global.css and opac.css files with @include() things.
17:25 oleonard       Yes, all modern browsers support that
17:24 huginn         jcamins_away: I'll give you the answer as soon as RDA is ready
17:24 jcamins_away   @include ([whatever the syntax is]
17:24 oleonard       What do you mean by CSS includes?
17:24 jcamins_away   oleonard: I just had a thought... do all modern browsers support CSS includes?
17:21 khall          that was my suspicion
17:21 jcamins_away   I think the sanop.css, at least, is cruft.
17:20 khall          will do
17:20 oleonard       Fail it and I'll check it
17:20 khall          I imagine we need to either fix the css files, or delete them if they are cruft.
17:19 khall          oleonard, it looks like those images are still referenced in some css files
17:12 dracoling      jcamins_away: thanks
17:12 mib_1rug2b     jcamins_away : thanks. got it working
17:11 jcamins_away   dracoling: ^^
17:11 wahanui        Plack is a FastCGI thingy that works with Koha. See http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Plack for more information.
17:11 jcamins_away   plack?
17:11 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8108 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Needs Signoff , Remove unused images from the OPAC
17:11 oleonard       Patch for Bug 8108 rebased, thanks for testing khall
17:10 mib_1rug2b     thanks i'm gonna look
17:10 mib_1rug2b     ok. i did the virtualhost directive i /etc/apache2/sites-enabled but nothing i etc/apache2/ports.conf
17:09 jcamins_away   In that case, you'll need to add Listen directives to /etc/apache2/ports.conf.
17:09 mib_1rug2b     i have my website on the server. wants to have koha on special port. like mywebsite.com:8080 for opac and mywebsite:81 for admin
17:08 jcamins_away   If the database was created, then probably you just need to adjust the VirtualHost directive, add a Listen to /etc/apache2/ports.conf, or correct a DNS entry.
17:08 mib_1rug2b     ok good to know :)
17:07 jcamins_away   The koha-create command does not populate the database.
17:07 jcamins_away   mib_1rug2b: probably the Apache configuration.
17:07 mib_1rug2b     hi! anyone som can help me with installation? uknow if koha create failed (got an empty database) or if there's something wrong with apache conf
17:06 drojf          ah :)
17:05 jcamins_away   drojf: I think it's a demo of how cool the Koha web services API is.
17:04 drojf          maybe i'm missing some detail
17:04 drojf          basic unauthenticated search in the opac (aka passing an url and showing a webpage i suppose) is v1.2? interesting
17:02 jcamins_away   I think it's another project pending sponsorship.
17:01 gerundio       but the objectives look promissing
17:01 gerundio       http://code.google.com/p/kiritakikoha/
17:00 gerundio       jcamins_away, it looks like it for the moment
16:55 jcamins_away   I think.
16:55 jcamins_away   gerundio: it's just a basic search thing.
16:55 jcamins_away   libsysguy_afk: yeah, sounds like I just don't understand the logs.
16:36 libsysguy      which was not there with the patch
16:36 gerundio       from the description I couldn't really understand what it does
16:36 libsysguy      jcamins_away: without the patch I occasionally see the line Moving to flat shadow: recdB
16:36 gerundio       what's your opinion about the Kiritaki Koha android app?
16:34 jcamins_away   The merge/no-merge thing may have to do with the fact that both wajasu and I are using lxc and strangely configured filesystems, I suppose.
16:33 jcamins_away   Agreed.
16:32 libsysguy      however if they look the same I'd say the patch doesn't work
16:32 libsysguy      if I see shadow in the logs i would be inclined to say you were wrong about merge in the logs
16:32 libsysguy      :p
16:31 * libsysguy    has faith in a patch from jcamins
16:30 jcamins_away   The patch may simply not work, of course.
16:28 libsysguy      I'll re-index without the patch and see what I get
16:27 * jcamins_away has always had a perfect correlation between merge and shadow, but doesn't claim to understand the Zebra log.
16:26 libsysguy      let me unset and check
16:26 libsysguy      well it probably would have been helpful to check that before I applied the patch
16:26 jcamins_away   Did you get the message before the patch?
16:26 libsysguy      merges
16:26 libsysguy      it looks like it sorts the sections
16:26 libsysguy      no
16:25 jcamins_away   Right.
16:25 libsysguy      in the log?
16:25 jcamins_away   Do you get a message about enabling shadow after, too?
16:24 * libsysguy    hates failing patche
16:24 libsysguy      lol
16:24 libsysguy      well I get it after
16:24 libsysguy      i see
16:24 jcamins_away   He got the Merge before the patch, but not after.
16:24 libsysguy      well it is such a simple patch
16:23 jcamins_away   Or that I was misunderstanding the cryptic log messages from Zebra, which is quite possible.
16:23 libsysguy      wajasu appears to have gotten it and signed off on the patch
16:23 libsysguy      thats why I was confused
16:23 jcamins_away   If you see it after the patch, that means the patch failed, yes.
16:23 libsysguy      hm
16:23 libsysguy      or if I do see it does that mean it failed
16:23 jcamins_away   Not after the patch.
16:22 libsysguy      so am I supposed to see it
16:22 * jcamins_away doesn't know what makes the difference, then.
16:22 oleonard       Who you callin' old libsysguy? :P
16:22 libsysguy      and I'd like to think my computer is pretty quick
16:22 libsysguy      oh…I got a merge phase
16:22 jcamins_away   libsysguy: I've been told that other people who have faster computers don't have a merge phase.
16:21 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9049 normal, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Signed Off , rebuild_zebra should not use shadow when called with -r
16:21 libsysguy      I have to admit, you're 2 step test plan is confusing on bug 9049
16:20 jcamins_away   Yay!
16:20 libsysguy      :p
16:20 libsysguy      I'm QA-ing one of your patches now
16:20 libsysguy      yeah
16:20 jcamins_away   qa_day++
16:19 jcamins_away   Yay!
16:19 libsysguy      today is my QA day
16:19 libsysguy      okay just double checking
16:18 jcamins_away   libsysguy: not necessary,  no.
16:08 libsysguy      whoa that one is OLD
16:08 huginn         gmcharlt: Quote #28: "<owen> I'm glad munin doesn't follow me around all day remembering *everything* I say." (added by jdavidb at 01:14 PM, September 01, 2009)
16:08 gmcharlt       @quote random
16:07 reiveune       bye
15:51 vfernandes     maybe it was a template problem and not a profile problem
15:51 libsysguy      hey kf or jcamins were we supposed to be adding [Passed-QA] to sign-offs
15:31 gerundio       it seems like it worked now
15:31 gerundio       removed all templates and created them back
15:31 gerundio       well, went for the classic "restart" tactic
15:22 vfernandes     I can't help you infortunally :/
15:20 vfernandes     do you have different profiles?
15:20 vfernandes     *I never had
15:20 vfernandes     I never any problem with patron card template
15:19 gerundio       any idea regarding that patron card template error I pasted 10 minutes ago?
15:09 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9167 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , The sort field copyrightdate is not standardized
15:09 jenkins_koha   jcamins: Bug 9167: Increment version number
15:09 jenkins_koha   Project Koha_master build #969: STILL UNSTABLE in 1 hr 9 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/969/
15:00 pastebot       "gerundio" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "Edit patron card template error" (4 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/302
15:00 gerundio       and I got this beautifull message after pressing save
14:59 gerundio       when I tried to assign it, the dropdown was showing it already selected
14:59 jcamins_away   vfernandes: yes, exactly. :)
14:59 gerundio       created a 3rd one, just like the 1st
14:59 gerundio       and now I've deleted the 1st profile
14:58 vfernandes     what's the next step of a patch being signed off? QA, push?
14:58 gerundio       jcamins_away, ok thanks
14:58 jcamins_away   gerundio: no, there are none by default.
14:58 * jcamins      heads into the city.
14:57 vfernandes     it's nice to see some of my patches being signed off
14:56 gerundio       olá vfernandes :)
14:56 gerundio       but I can't seem to be able to assign any template to the 1st profile
14:56 vfernandes     hi :)
14:55 gerundio       I've now created 2 printer profiles
14:55 libsysguy      tcohen it failed test 23, 29, and 35
14:55 gerundio       is it supposed to exist any predefined printer profile after we finish the koha install?
14:55 kf             jcamins: sounds like it
14:54 libsysguy      tcohen I get a failure
14:53 jcamins        The solution, of course, is to not rely on the order of operations.
14:53 kf             oh
14:52 jcamins        kf: no, the problem that was fixed is that it was in the other order, which left stale records in the database.
14:51 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9243 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, christophe.croullebois, Needs Signoff , Bad delete order in sub index_records in rebuild_zebra.pl
14:51 kf             I thought bug 9243 had been fixed ages ago:(
14:49 gerundio       it still shows "Profile unassigned"
14:49 gerundio       even so, being the only printer available in the drop down, it doesn't get assign to the template
14:47 gerundio       shall I open a bug for this?
14:46 gerundio       yeap, the printer profile shows up on edit
14:45 gerundio       I think I'll pass the fun while I can
14:45 gerundio       drojf, I detect a little amount of sarcasm on that sentence eheheheh
14:44 gerundio       let me save the template and then edit it to see what happens :D
14:44 drojf          gerundio: you would remember the fun of installing plack for koha ;)
14:44 gerundio       that query is only ran if the op='edit'
14:44 khall          kf libsysguy, it wouldn't hurt be this is an amalgamation of previously patches all of which were signed of multiple times.
14:44 gerundio       hmmm, I think I see the issue
14:43 gerundio       http://plackperl.org/, is this what you mean?
14:42 gerundio       so I guess I'm not using it :D
14:42 gerundio       jcamins, 1st time I hear about it
14:42 kf             or take a look at the code before that
14:42 kf             libsysguy: if you wanted to add an additonal sign-off... that would not hurt of course :)
14:42 jcamins        gerundio: you're not using Plack, are you?
14:42 gerundio       running the query on the DB client it retrieves results
14:42 libsysguy      kk kf
14:42 gerundio       the query looks good, retrieve the profiles assigned to the current template or the ones not assigned at all
14:41 kf             libsysguy: it's freshyl signed off, I will try to take a look this weekend/early next week
14:41 gerundio       I'm looking at the source code, line 53 from intranet/cgi-bin/patroncards/edit-template.pl
14:41 drojf          "server shutdown at 17:00pm". germans. i wonder when 17:00am is
14:40 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9209 normal, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Needs Signoff , Mocked Koha::Calendar tests
14:40 * tcohen       needs someone to look at bug 9209 so he feels more confident to start mocking more things
14:37 * kf           checks
14:36 libsysguy      can I QA that?
14:36 jcamins        Under Plack it should be possible to catch SIGWARN.
14:36 libsysguy      whats the rule on that jcamins
14:35 jcamins        khall++
14:34 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8190 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Signed Off , Add a logging module to Koha, that can report log message to staff interface (for developer use)
14:34 khall          Bug 8190 needs some qa love. I volunteer to switch all warns to logging when this gets in!
14:33 libsysguy      with height < 4 ft
14:33 libsysguy      just look for hairy feet
14:33 jcamins        Oh, no, that's hobbits.
14:33 jcamins        Likes crepes with raspberry jam for breakfast?
14:31 oleonard       "Has difficulty spotting hobbits trespassing on his property?"
14:31 khall          lol
14:31 jcamins        ... or was that not your point?
14:31 jcamins        All I look upon withers and dies!
14:30 libsysguy      jcamins is the eye of Sauron
14:29 jcamins        However, I didn't know until a few minutes ago. ;)
14:29 jcamins        Fifteen minutes ago.
14:29 khall          ah, I guess i need to pull
14:29 jcamins        :)
14:29 jcamins        I just merged in the missing branch.
14:29 jcamins        Not anymore.
14:29 khall          Hey, did you know that there is an XXX dbrev in master right now?
14:28 khall          np!
14:28 jcamins        khall: thanks for testing 9202! :)
14:24 gerundio       and the weirdest is that the printer profile I've created in the patron card area is showing up in the labels profiles
14:21 gerundio       :s
14:20 jcamins        However, I don't use the patron card creator.
14:19 jcamins        That is my understanding.
14:19 gerundio       I should be able to assign an existing profile to a new template upon creation, right?
14:19 jcamins        No.
14:18 gerundio       is this standard behavior?
14:18 gerundio       but it doesn't show up for me to select it on the template creation form
14:17 gerundio       I previously created a printing profile
14:17 gerundio       hey, I'm adding Patron card templates at the moment
14:00 jenkins_koha   Starting build #969 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #966 3 days 0 hr ago)
13:55 jcamins        Yesterday morning I merged the bug_9167 branch prior to incrementing the version number.
13:54 kf             hm?
13:54 jcamins        I re-merged 9167.
13:53 wahanui        i think morning is a state of mind. or whenever the cat wants breakfast.
13:53 jcamins        Morning.
13:53 kf             morning RM
13:49 huginn         New commit(s) kohagit: Merge branch 'bug_9167' into 3.12-master <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=56c52b2dbc00f36eeb0e1bf062e0bcd0b074f222> / Bug 9167: Increment version number <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=4153e1412110443a2f00dc29f4314308025fad3b>
13:44 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9167 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , The sort field copyrightdate is not standardized
13:44 jcamins        I never merged in bug 9167!
13:42 jcamins        It would, of course, be completely impossible with GRS-1.
13:42 jcamins        Just change which field is being used for sorting.
13:42 gaetan_B       jcamins: ok i'll file a bz then
13:42 jcamins        gaetan_B: it would be easy with DOM.
13:41 jcamins        gaetan_B: that has never worked.
13:41 oleonard       But in all seriousness, I think we should have a mailing list policy that members who send out of office replies should be automatically unsubscribed.
13:40 oleonard       [off] I would feel slightly more sympathy for sjohnson if sjohnson had ever submitted a patch, or posted to the mailing list, or commented on a bug...
13:37 gaetan_B       has this ever worked before, or would that be a new functionnal requirement ?
13:37 gaetan_B       when doing a search in authorities, they are sorted alphabetically on the heading, but when you have subdivisions to your heading, they are not take into account
13:35 drojf          [off] sjohnson will be back on monday. i'm looking forward to the party ;)
13:20 tcohen         hi oleonard
13:19 oleonard       Hi #koha
12:48 magnuse        sorry, i gotta run - bbl
12:44 mib_1rug2b     but debian-sys-maint has all privileges
12:44 mib_1rug2b     but now i see that user koha_bibblan doesn't any privilege
12:43 mib_1rug2b     weird is that it says acces denied for debian-sys-main
12:43 mib_1rug2b     no got it when i run koha create
12:43 magnuse        that bug i found seems to report the error in the browser - is that where you see it, or do you get it when you run koha-create?
12:42 mib_1rug2b     :)
12:42 magnuse        yay! i'm in norway
12:41 mib_1rug2b     yes it is
12:41 mib_1rug2b     :)
12:40 magnuse        bibblan - sounds swedish? :-)
12:39 mib_1rug2b     the dabasase and user were created (empty database)(
12:39 wahanui        somebody said koha-common was the one you want, the main koha one needs a bit more work (its for setting up a single instance)
12:39 mib_1rug2b     yes koha-common
12:39 magnuse        guess so, since you said "create instance"
12:38 magnuse        hm, you are installing with koha-common, right?
12:38 magnuse        i have a feeling there is another relevant bug too, but i can't seem to find it
12:37 magnuse        mib_1rug2b: not sure that was a lot of help :-)
12:33 mib_1rug2b     thanks.
12:32 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6276 normal, P5 - low, ---, robin, NEW , Access denied for user ...@localhost
12:32 magnuse
12:32 magnuse        sounds like Bug 6276
12:30 kf             what are you trying to do?
12:30 kf             mib_1rug2b: that looks like a problem with mysql
12:25 mib_1rug2b     help
12:24 mib_1rug2b     anyone?
12:23 mib_1rug2b     that's weird
12:23 mib_1rug2b     trying to install koha on debian. got ERROR 1044 (42000) at line 4: Access denied for user 'debian-sys-maint'@'localhost' to database 'koha_bibblan' when trying to create instance.
12:22 mib_1rug2b     hi
11:55 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9235 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Needs Signoff , Hardcoded values in cronjobs/backup.sh
11:55 tcohen         bug 9235
11:42 hb             BACK SORRY DC
11:30 HB             was just checking how they did match as we also use endnote to import files from the koha
11:29 HB             frameword = framework
11:29 HB             sorry was eating well i filled in all the fields (i did put in the number off the field as tekst) in the default frameword ... searched the  record in the client ... and exported it as a ris file
11:16 gerundio       gaetan_B, magnuse thank you very much
11:13 magnuse        gerundio: http://manual.koha-community.org/3.8/en/impopac.html
11:13 kf             HB: what do you mean by you exported all existing fields?
11:11 gaetan_B       gerundio: i remember nengard did somehting like this in the manual, can't find it right now though...
10:59 kf             HB: you could file a bug
10:55 HB             problem :OP
10:54 HB             i exported all existing fields (filled them in first) none of them go to the page indicator in the ris format
10:48 wahanui        a workaround is jcamins_lib1, jcamins_lib2, jcamins_lib3, jcamins_lib4, if you're insistent on using single branch mode.
10:48 HB             or a workaround
10:47 HB             question if i export a file to ris the pagination normaly 300a isnt exported if i take the marc export it is exported ... anny reason for that ?
10:41 wahanui        i guess template is a copy from output
10:41 gerundio       template?
10:41 gerundio       theme?
10:40 gerundio       hi, is there any wiki entry that shows the areas available in the Koha theme?
10:16 vkm            ok
10:14 drojf          good day #koha
10:14 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9052 blocker, P5 - low, ---, robin, In Discussion , YUI assets installed in the wrong place by packages
10:14 drojf          when someone fixes bug 9052 and it is packaged i guess
10:13 vkm            when stable version of 3.10 release?
10:12 huginn         kf: The current temperature in Konstanz, Germany is -2.0°C (11:00 AM CET on December 07, 2012). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 82%. Dew Point: -4.0°C. Pressure: 29.77 in 1008 hPa (Falling).
10:12 kf             @wunder Konstanz
10:08 huginn         druthb: The current temperature in Lawrence Live-Courtesy of the Khoury's, Lawrence, Kansas is 7.1°C (4:07 AM CST on December 07, 2012). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 85%. Dew Point: 5.0°C. Windchill: 7.0°C. Pressure: 29.92 in 1013 hPa (Falling).
10:08 druthb         @wunder 66046
10:02 huginn         magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is -4.0°C (10:50 AM CET on December 07, 2012). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 54%. Dew Point: -12.0°C. Windchill: -14.0°C. Pressure: 30.06 in 1018 hPa (Falling).
10:02 magnuse        @wunder boo
09:53 huginn         drojf: The current temperature in Prenzlauer Berg, Berlin, Germany is -2.7°C (10:43 AM CET on December 07, 2012). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 74%. Dew Point: -7.0°C. Windchill: -7.0°C. Pressure: 29.86 in 1011 hPa (Falling).
09:53 drojf          @wunder berlin, germany
09:50 vkm            any idea about release of stable new version
09:42 HB             :s just testing te smiles
09:35 * druthb       looks innocent
09:35 kf             druthb: shouldn't you be sleeping?
09:21 HB             ok i keep searching :)
09:19 HB             .... now the it department gave me data.inbo.be/koha as an adress do i put DOMAIN="data.inbo.be/koha" ?
09:19 HB             Just starting a 3.10 install in the ubuntu package setup it says To configure your server for use with DNS names: After install, edit /etc/koha/koha-sites.conf with details about your site. You may need to create this file. Some example content would be:DOMAIN=".framisdooby.org"  # Change this to be your domain. Any instance will be a subdomain of this string
09:15 HB             Morning
08:33 mib_ioe40l     Hi, I would like to change the notifications email that the patrons receive, but I do not know where to go to change it. Could you help me?
08:30 kf             happy friday #koha
08:18 gaetan_B       hello
07:49 cait           and bbl
07:49 cait           hi reiveune
07:45 reiveune       hello
07:34 magnuse        yay!
07:32 * cait         waves back
07:32 * magnuse      waves
06:33 cait           hi #koha
04:42 BobB           Take care.
04:41 druthb         It's Thursday evening latish.  :)  Be well.
04:41 BobB           Many thanks for your help.
04:40 BobB           almost Friday evening here, I'd better press on.
04:40 BobB           What time is it where you are?
04:39 BobB           Cool.  I can verify that.
04:39 druthb         FSC is probably the item type.
04:39 BobB           Thanks Ruth!
04:39 BobB           I can check that further.
04:38 BobB           so in my example there, is FSC the item type or is Non-Fiction?  That looks more like a collection code?
04:36 druthb         yeah.  a split() and two substr() statements can be used to make a hash out of the second $x.  Anything where the value isn't present, like all those @j entries, can be tossed.
04:35 BobB           ughhh !!!
04:35 BobB           $xCOPYID:23034$xFSC@aNon-fiction@c20120828@j@j@j@i@i@i$h221.61 ARC
04:34 druthb         When I was messing with one of those, I used split() to chop the subfield x apart; that made things a little more orderly.
04:34 BobB           yeah I've got those @ characters all over the place.... ugly
04:33 druthb         It looks like the 852$x has sub-subfields, with an @ delimiter...so 852$x@a is item type, @c acq date @e volume number...  that sub-sub thing gave her fits.
04:32 druthb         Hm.  I've not worked with a lot of Destiny boxen... I know talljoy has done a couple; let me check our notes, see what I can find.
04:31 BobB           Do you know where follet Destiny stores the item type?  Is it in the 852 tag?
04:31 druthb         :)  Good.
04:31 BobB           Very well, thx.
04:30 druthb         How's sweet Irma?
04:30 BobB           yeah, they speed up towards the end :)
04:30 druthb         Kind of stunned that it's almost over.
04:30 druthb         It's going pretty well.  This has certainly been an interesting year for me.
04:29 BobB           how's life?
04:29 BobB           Hi Ruth :)
04:29 druthb         I am.  Hi, BobB! :)
04:29 BobB           druthb are you about?