Time  Nick           Message
01:10 mib_msrcng     Hello can any one help me i want restrict download in my koha install to only users that signup, pls how can i do that
01:11 mtj            you want to restrict…. download?
01:11 mib_msrcng     yes
01:11 mtj            you want to restrict…. the downloading of what?
01:12 mib_msrcng     the downloading of eresources
01:12 mtj            hmm, koha has no functionality to do that, currently
01:12 mib_msrcng     I have a koha install that has the marc records of the world public library
01:13 mtj            the quick fix is to use jquery to hide those links on the opac page, for users not logged in
01:14 mib_msrcng     Ok, so please how do i go about that
01:14 mib_msrcng     Please can u be of assistance to me
01:15 mib_msrcng     i will be most greatful
01:16 mtj            sorry, i am too busy now to help you with that :/
01:17 mib_msrcng     ok, can u give me a link to a guide on thata
01:19 mtj            just google 'jquery tutorials'
01:22 mtj            mib_msrcng, ooh, here is a good link -> http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/JQuery_Library
01:22 mtj            …. customising koha using jquery :)
01:23 mtj            mib_msrcng, -> http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/JQuery_Library#Hide_.27Save_Record.27_Box_in_OPAC
01:23 mtj            … that jquery example hides the 'Save Record' Box in OPAC
01:24 mtj            so, your jquery will be something like that
01:26 mtj            $("#export").remove();
01:27 mtj            … hides the 'save record' link
01:27 mtj            if ($("#logout").length) { $("#export").remove();   }
01:27 mtj            … hides the 'save record' link, if user is not logged in
01:28 mtj            ah, and they've gone :/
01:30 mtj            oops, thats if they *are* logged in
01:30 mtj            if ($("#logout").length eq 0) { $("#export").remove();   }
01:31 mtj            ^^ that might work
01:32 mtj            a conversation for the #koha log, i guess...
01:36 mib_3bigdi     Pls is it possible to know the e-resources viewed by each patron in koha
01:47 jcamins_away   Not at present.
01:49 mtj            haay, jcamins_away  - i think i discovered a way to dev on plack, without needing a restart
01:49 mtj            it was the -R ./your/koha  arg
01:50 mtj            so far, it seems to be working ok
04:47 * Oak          waves
05:13 wajasu         congrats on the 3.8.7 release
05:42 Oak            :)
06:40 * magnuse      waves
06:43 * cait1        waves back
06:43 magnuse        :-)
07:37 cait1          @wunder Konstanz
07:37 huginn         cait1: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 5.2°C (8:35 AM CET on November 23, 2012). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 94%. Dew Point: 4.0°C. Windchill: 5.0°C. Pressure: 30.18 in 1022 hPa (Steady).
07:37 cait1          @wunder Stuttgart
07:38 huginn         cait1: Error: No such location could be found.
07:38 cait1          @wunder Stuttgart, Germany
07:38 huginn         cait1: Error: No such location could be found.
07:38 cait1          hmpf.
07:38 magnuse        @wunder boo
07:38 huginn         magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 6.0°C (8:20 AM CET on November 23, 2012). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 70%. Dew Point: 1.0°C. Windchill: 2.0°C. Pressure: 29.68 in 1005 hPa (Steady).
07:38 magnuse        w00t!
07:39 reiveune       hello
07:39 wahanui        hola, reiveune
07:39 magnuse        hiya reiveune
07:39 reiveune       salut magnuse :)
07:39 sophie_m       hello #koha
07:53 Oak            [off] Excellent read as always: http://www.paulgraham.com/startupideas.html
07:53 cait1          hi all :)
08:00 gaetan_B       hello
08:11 paul_p         good morning #koha !
08:17 magnuse        kia ora paul_p
08:20 paul_p         seems there are problems with koha-devel, exactly as with koha-bugs & koha-commit :((((
08:27 rangi          the mail server is running? the queue not jammed?  messages aren't bouncing back
08:27 paul_p         rangi hdl & lducos are investigating...
08:32 cait-m         hi #koha
09:18 * cait         waves
09:19 cait           @wunder Konstanz
09:19 huginn         cait: The current temperature in Konstanz, Germany is 7.0°C (10:00 AM CET on November 23, 2012). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 85%. Dew Point: 5.0°C. Pressure: 30.21 in 1023 hPa (Rising).
09:29 * magnuse      waves to cait
09:30 cait           :)
10:20 * magnuse      has booked the trip to marseille in march! (well, flying to nice to be exact)
10:20 cait           !!
10:20 magnuse        :-)
10:21 * magnuse      takes along the whole family
10:21 cait           ooh
10:21 cait           where are you going to stay?
10:22 magnuse        not sure yet
10:22 magnuse        but we will rent an appartment in marseille for the hackfest
10:22 magnuse        looks a lot cheaper than a hotel
10:22 magnuse        and lots to choose from
10:23 magnuse        then we will probably stay in nice for the whole easter week, renting another apartment
10:23 cait           ah cool
10:24 cait           sounds nice!
10:24 cait           I would like to go too
10:27 * magnuse      would like cait to go too
10:30 cait           aaw
10:55 cait           paul_p: any news about the mailing lists?
10:55 cait           I get bug mails where I am cc'd to the bug, but not from the list?
10:56 paul_p         cait= hdl is investigating...
10:56 cait           hope he can solve it
10:56 cait           announcing a release with broken mailing lists could be ahard ;)
10:56 paul_p         yep...
10:58 * cait         will psend lots of time on trains today
11:03 gaetan_B       bye
11:26 * magnuse      got a couple messages from the lists now!
12:03 * cait         waves
12:03 tcohen         hi cait
12:03 cait           hi tomas :)
12:04 tcohen         just got my cup of coffee
12:04 tcohen         so i'll be 100% awake in a few minutes
12:04 cait           just arrived in stuttgart, but my exam only starts in 2 hours
12:05 tcohen         will be testing a Porsche?
12:06 cait           hehe no
12:07 cait           written exam for a course in my distance study
12:11 tcohen         good luck then
12:11 tcohen         i should finish writting my bachellor thesis
12:11 tcohen         maybe this weekend i'll start
12:11 tcohen         :-D
12:20 cait           hehe yes you sould :)
12:33 paul_p         mailing lists are back... the anti-virus/anti-spam had been shut down by linux kernel, due to too much RAM consumption...
12:35 magnuse        stupid kernel... ;-)
12:38 cait           oh wow
12:38 cait           sounds hard to catch that
12:38 cait           magnuse: did you get a change to try a writeoff?
12:39 magnuse        cait: gah, no
12:43 cait           paul_p: I can still reproduce it in my installation, trying to gather some more information
12:43 cait           paul_p: the writeoff bug that is
12:44 paul_p         cait = on my way to release 3.10.0 today. I'll add the 3 BLO as a warning.
12:44 cait           ah
12:44 cait           yourmail just got through
12:44 cait           guess it was from yesterday then?
12:44 paul_p         cait yep :(
12:45 cait           hm
12:45 cait           stupid kernel
12:46 cait           i can still investigate a bit more, I have time to kill and some books to avoid looking at :)
12:46 tcohen         kernel problem? what distro?
12:47 cait           tcohen: i was referring to what paul said earlier about the problem with the mailing lists
12:47 cait           paul_p: could you post how your database entry for the working writeoff in accountlines looks like?
12:54 cait           ew - pay.pl has subs and sql outside of C4?
12:55 paul_p         cait = done
12:55 cait           thx
12:56 cait           I think i am starting to get an idea
12:57 cait           paul_p: does your test system have more accounts with fines? or is this the only one?
12:57 paul_p         cait what do you mean with "more accounts with fines" ?
12:57 cait           different borrowers with fines
12:57 paul_p         OK, got it, another patron with fines. I don't think so
12:57 paul_p         checking... nope, this is the only one
12:58 cait           could you try on another?
12:58 * paul_p       tries to add a fine to someone else & try again
13:00 cait           i suspect a confusion of numbers, accountno and accountlines_id...but so far mostly a guess
13:01 jcamins        Good morning, #koha
13:01 cait           hi jcamins
13:03 paul_p         cait++ !!!
13:03 cait           hah!
13:03 paul_p         I can reproduce the problem = just have more than 1 patron with fines !
13:03 cait           awesome
13:03 paul_p         Date 	Description of charges 	Note 	Amount 	Outstanding 	Print
13:03 paul_p         23/11/2012 	Writeoff  		55.00 	0.00 	Print
13:03 paul_p         23/11/2012 	Copier Fees  		55.00 	55.00 	Print
13:03 cait           well, a first step
13:03 wahanui        a first step is the whole workout. Done.
13:03 paul_p         Total due 	55.00
13:04 cait           scary thought,... but if it confuses numbers... would it be possible you accidently mess with fines on another patron's account?
13:04 cait           I hope not
13:06 cait           hm nah, it's probably something else going wrong
13:06 cait           at least it's reproducable now
13:11 cait           ew
13:11 cait           $template->param(
13:11 cait           error => sprintf( 'You must pay a value less than or equal to %f.2',
13:11 cait           $total_due )
13:12 cait           untranslatable error message in .pl file
13:12 jcamins        Yikes.
13:15 jcamins        I don't have any problems with the pagination in the OPAC authority browser.
13:15 jcamins        Oh, wait, there we go.
13:15 jcamins        It's if you click arrows.
13:15 cait           paul_p: I am stuck in the paycollect template - and have to go write an exam now
13:16 cait           maybe someone can track it down now
13:16 paul_p         cait = don't worry, i'm on it
13:16 paul_p         cait = I think it's just WriteOffFee in C4/Accounts.pm that uses accountno instead of accountline_id
13:16 cait           the information passed to paycollect looks correct to me for writing off an invidual fee - but nto sure what's going on in ther ethen
13:16 paul_p         cait good luck/work for your exam
13:17 cait           thx
13:17 cait           would be more fun to find out what's going wrong in koha :)
13:18 cait           bye all, bbl
13:21 jcamins        paul_p: when you release 3.10, you should update the version on 3.10.x, and I'll cherry-pick it to master.
13:22 paul_p         jcamins yep, that's what I planned to do. You'll also have to deal with translations: 3 patches, one creating ccsr.po, one adding italian ccsr.po, one adding all other translations merge from tamil.fr repo)
13:23 jcamins        I will not cherry-pick the new po files from tamil to master, actually, because druthb_away is going to be splitting the repos.
13:34 paul_p         jcamins = if you cherry pick them from 3.10.x branch, that won't cost "anything" in terms of size.
13:34 paul_p         jcamins = did you had a nice thanksgiving ?
13:34 jcamins        paul_p: yes, it was very nice.
13:35 paul_p         jcamins was the turkey happy ? ( ;-) )
13:35 jcamins        We had duck. :)
13:35 paul_p         OK, so one turkey happy and one duck not ;-)
13:35 jcamins        Two ducks, actually.
13:35 jcamins        Right now I'm making broth out of the scraps.
13:35 paul_p         a couple ? I hope you haven't separated 2 pairs of lovers...
13:36 paul_p         (kidding...)
13:36 jcamins        lol
13:37 paul_p         jcamins & anyone else = URGENT signoff required on bug 9122 ! (it's blocking the release)
13:37 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9122 blocker, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Needs Signoff , Writing off fees broken
13:38 jcamins        I will take a look.
13:40 jcamins        I don't see any change with or without the patch.
13:40 jcamins        And writing things off works.
13:42 paul_p         jcamins = look at comment 12,
13:43 paul_p         jcamins = everything is OK if you have only 1 patron with fines...
13:43 jcamins        Ah.
13:43 paul_p         because in this case accountno=accountlines_id :\
13:44 paul_p         but obviously, WriteOffFee is called with accoundlines_id, and before the patch it does UPDATE WHERE accountno=?, so it's wrong
13:44 jcamins        Umm...
13:44 jcamins        Still can't reproduce.
13:44 jcamins        I'll add more fines.
13:45 paul_p         jcamins = add a fine to another patron, to have 2 different patrons with fines
13:45 jcamins        I did that.
13:48 paul_p         look at members/pay.pl, line 208 and line 92, and C4/WriteOffFee, to check that we're not using the variable that is sent.
13:49 paul_p         jcamins = look at members/pay.pl, line 208 and line 92, and C4/WriteOffFee, to check that we're not using the variable that is sent. So it can't be OK, if it work for you it's just because accountno=accountlines_id because you' lucky
13:49 jcamins        Yeah, I can't sign off on this because I can't reproduce it no matter how many fines I create.
14:05 jcamins        Ooh, I think I got it.
14:06 jcamins        Yeah, got it.
14:06 jcamins        And...
14:06 jcamins        the patch fixes it.
14:07 magnuse        woohoo!
14:07 jcamins        I tried adding fines to a third patron, and that did it.
14:07 magnuse        cait++ paul_p++ jcamins++
14:08 jcamins        Signed off.
14:08 wahanui        signed off is the queue the QA team should watch
14:08 paul_p         jcamins OK, will pass QA myself on this one, because it's a tiny patch, and I want to release today ;-)
14:09 jcamins        paul_p: joubu isn't around to QA?
14:09 paul_p         well... i'll ask him, you're right
14:09 jcamins        Thanks. :)
14:10 paul_p         jcamins = can you explain what release-tools/release-tool.pl does exacty ?
14:10 paul_p         more doc would be welcomed ;-)
14:10 paul_p         This script takes care of most of the Koha release process, as it is
14:10 paul_p         done by Jared Camins-Esakov and C & P Bibliography Services. This may
14:10 paul_p         not perfectly meet the needs of other Release Maintainers and/or
14:10 paul_p         organizations.
14:10 paul_p         is a little bit short ;-)
14:10 jcamins        paul_p: there are hundreds of lines of documentation!
14:11 jcamins        I'll add a bit more documentation, though.
14:11 paul_p         oops... sorry...
14:11 paul_p         just saw the beginning of the script...
14:11 jcamins        However, to summarize, it runs the test, and builds and signs things.
14:11 * paul_p       should have made perldoc release-tool.pl ...
14:14 paul_p         jcamins I also don't remember how to upload to download.k-c.org, if you can remind me...
14:14 jcamins        I always forget too.
14:14 paul_p         :\
14:14 jcamins        http://git.cpbibliography.com/?p=home-bin.git;a=blob;f=uploadkoha;h=e5870a08ab550b6d0f56bbf55983f401e5469122;hb=refs/heads/master
14:15 paul_p         thx !
14:16 paul_p         jcamins and how do you edit /home/uploads/files/include/header.html ? you have the SSH permission ?
14:16 jcamins        paul_p: yeah.
14:16 jcamins        Just SSH in and use vim.
14:16 paul_p         jcamins = and do you have permission to give me permission ?
14:17 jcamins        I do not, but I think you should already have permission.
14:17 jcamins        Your user is paulp
14:17 paul_p         jcamins OK, i'm on it, thx
14:18 jcamins        Okay, so I need to push 9122.
14:19 paul_p         jcamins I can edit the file, everything OK, thx
14:20 jcamins        Pushed.
14:20 paul_p         thx
14:21 huginn         New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 9122: fix the problem when writing-off a fine <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=ab159bd8a2eecc3e602343fbeb37b97f79998be1>
14:29 jenkins_koha   Starting build #949 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS)
14:46 tcohen         jcamins, did u get my email about db dependent test and sample data?
14:58 gerundio       hi, how can I update the language files on a give koha installation?
14:58 jenkins_koha   Starting build #15 for job Koha_3.10.x (previous build: SUCCESS)
14:59 tcohen         just do the perl translate install thing
14:59 paul_p         jcamins = how long does a ../release-tools/release-tool.pl require ?
14:59 paul_p         "Running unit tests" for now...
15:00 jcamins        paul_p: 1:09 on my laptop. Probably about 40 minutes on your computer.
15:01 tcohen         paul_p, do u know what dataset is used in the automated tests?
15:01 paul_p         tcohen nope. I think, but not sure it's the default MARC21 dataset. jcamins must know
15:01 jcamins        tcohen: a set consisting of all the sample data plus a patron, a couple of item records, and a few issues.
15:02 tcohen         maybe after release we can spend a few minutes talking about bug 9133, maybe next week?
15:02 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9133 normal, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , We need a data set for db dependent tests
15:02 jcamins        Sure.
15:03 jcamins        I favor mocking data as much as we can, though.
15:03 tcohen         me too, we got some nasty bugs on the mock funcionts, thou
15:03 jcamins        What do you mean?
15:04 tcohen         for testing holidays stuff we had a add_holiday function that had a bug on it
15:04 jcamins        Right, but that's not the fault of mocking data. It's the fault of not having the right data mocked.
15:05 tcohen         true
15:05 jcamins        And if we could eliminate the need for a MySQL server in the tests, that would be good.
15:06 tcohen         do we have guidelines for mocking?
15:07 jcamins        No.
15:07 tcohen         neither we use mocking libs i guess
15:07 jcamins        I will accept any patch that adds useful tests.
15:08 jcamins        At some point I'd like to have a complete set of modules for mocking data, but until we actually know what we want to mock it would be premature to write them.
15:08 tcohen         there's test::mockmodule and test::mockobject
15:08 jcamins        Yes, we use those.
15:08 jcamins        Particularly the former.
15:09 jcamins        I'm not sure that we actually have any patch using Test::MockObject in Koha yet.
15:09 jcamins        Take a look at...
15:09 wajasu         is there anything that does "faking" instead of mocking in th eperl world?
15:09 jcamins        t/SuggestionEngine_AuthorityFile.t.
15:09 jcamins        wajasu: what?
15:10 wajasu         google  fake vs mock
15:10 jcamins        wajasu: tell me what you want and I'll answer the question.
15:10 tcohen         jcamins, i'll take a look at that
15:11 jcamins        There are lots of other tests mocking what you want.
15:11 jcamins        wajasu: I don't see any meaningful distinction between the two in Perl.
15:12 jcamins        If you don't put any tests in a "mocked" subroutine that seems exactly the same as a "fake" subroutine.
15:13 wajasu         what i really want to know is, what route are we going to take for doing objects.     bless/Class::Accessor,   Moose or ...
15:13 jcamins        Not Moose.
15:14 jcamins        Moo is acceptable or bless/Class::Accessor is acceptable.
15:15 jcamins        However, massive framework changes are not a viable option in a project organized the way Koha is.
15:15 tcohen         jcamins, thanks for the pointer to that mocking example
15:16 jcamins        tcohen: there are a bunch of other tests that do it, too.
15:16 tcohen         i'll shift my test ideas for holidays from db-dependent into the mock concept
15:16 jcamins        tcohen++
15:19 * wajasu       conspires with my librarian to write a script to generate auth records from biblios.
15:19 gerundio       still regarding translation, I've used the POedit validation feature on the following pt-PT po file http://translate.koha-community.org/export/38/pt/pt-PT-i-opac-t-prog-v-3006000.po
15:20 gerundio       I got 8 errors
15:20 gerundio       this means trouble when using this translation file, right?
15:20 magnuse        gerundio: yup, better fix the errors
15:26 gerundio       magnuse, done
15:26 gerundio       I still get an error regarding the Project-Id-Version on the po file header
15:27 gerundio       is this acceptable?
15:27 gerundio       the current value is "Project-Id-Version: PACKAGE VERSION\n"
15:28 magnuse        hm, no idea
15:30 gerundio       I can't seem to find any info regarding the correct value to insert there
15:30 wajasu         i did test/signoff bug 9049
15:30 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9049 normal, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Signed Off , rebuild_zebra should not use shadow when called with -r
15:30 tweetbot`      [off] twitter: @ByWaterSolution: "Koha Manual Updates http://t.co/uXnu8onW #kohails"
15:31 gerundio       magnuse, I've checked other languages which are 100% translated
15:32 gerundio       and the values don't seem to follow any rule
15:32 gerundio       so I just inserted "Koha 3.8 OPAC PT translation" which seems meaningful
15:43 * paul_p       testing the 3.10 tarball ...
15:45 jcamins        paul_p: that took much longer than I expected. Usually your computer is much faster than mine.
15:45 paul_p         jcamins = in fact, it failed. So i'm doing things manually
15:45 paul_p         jcamins = like I did for 3.8, that's a process I already made, so it's OK ;-)
15:45 jcamins        paul_p: ah. Understandable.
15:46 tweetbot`      [off] twitter: @libriotech: "http://t.co/YQanDZhv has been updated with the latest work-in-progress code for digital signs in #kohails"
15:56 paul_p         OK, test working. Uploading the .tar.gz. jcamins, in less than one hour, you'll be the Release Manager !
15:58 paul_p         mmm... jcamins how do you create the .sig ?
15:59 paul_p         I've the .MD5, but, as 6 months ago, I've forgotten for the .sig...
15:59 gerundio       hi, I've just performed the language update on OPAC
15:59 gerundio       and now I'm getting the following error
15:59 gerundio       "Template process failed: file error - parse error - doc-head-close.inc line 3: unexpected token (ão)
15:59 gerundio       [% Versão %] at /usr/share/koha/lib/C4/Templates.pm line 127."
16:00 gerundio       this point to some kind of encoding problem
16:00 jcamins        gerundio: looks like you changed a variable name to Versao instead of the string?
16:00 gerundio       hmm
16:01 gerundio       have no idea how I could do that
16:01 gerundio       I used POedit to correct a few errors
16:01 jcamins        paul_p: gpg -sb $TARBALL && gpg --clearsign $MD5
16:01 gerundio       it doesn't allow to change variable names right?
16:01 paul_p         jcamins thx
16:02 jcamins        gerundio: that's correct.
16:02 jcamins        At least, as far as I understand.
16:02 gerundio       I think I see the source of the problem
16:03 gerundio       I guess someone decided to translate the following to PT too
16:03 gerundio       &lt;?xml version=\"1.0\" encoding=\"ISO-8859-1\"
16:03 gerundio       becomes &lt;?xml versão=\"1.0\" codificação=\"ISO-8859-1\"
16:03 jcamins        What version?
16:04 paul_p         OK, Koha 3.10 uploaded and available on http://download.koha-community.org/ If someone want to test...
16:05 gerundio       jcamins, was that question for me? :o
16:05 jcamins        gerundio: yes.
16:06 gerundio       that string I copy + pasted is just a part of the value from line 5003 on the OPAC pt-PT translation file
16:07 gerundio       I think that the words version and enconding should be left as is
16:07 jcamins        gerundio: yes, what version of Koha are you looking at?
16:07 gerundio       3.8
16:07 jcamins        How did you install the translation?
16:08 jcamins        I've never seen it changed like that.
16:08 gerundio       I installed it with the tmpl_process3.pl script
16:08 magnuse        paul_p++
16:08 jcamins        gerundio: you should use the translate script.
16:08 gerundio       I think the problem is in the translation file itself
16:08 jcamins        The instructions outline how to handle translations.
16:09 gerundio       btw, the value at line 9310
16:09 gerundio       Koha [% Version %]
16:09 gerundio       should remain unchanged right?
16:09 jcamins        That's correct.
16:09 gerundio       the word Version was translated as well :)
16:09 gerundio       I'll install again with these 2 corrections
16:10 jcamins        You should install it using the translate script.
16:10 gerundio       fixed :D
16:10 jcamins        Take a look at the INSTALL file for an example.
16:11 tweetbot`      [off] twitter: @kohails: "#kohails  Koha Manual Updates http://t.co/3GGhHFFi"
16:11 gerundio       http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Installation_of_additional_languages_for_OPAC_and_INTRANET_staff_client
16:11 gerundio       are these instructions up to date?
16:12 jcamins        Yes they are.
16:12 jcamins        And they say very clearly to use the translate script.
16:12 gerundio       so I should just run "perl translate install <language-code>" from the ../../misc/translator dir?
16:12 jcamins        Right.
16:14 gerundio       it "automagically" updates with latest translation files available for a the given koha version and language from the Pootle server?
16:15 jcamins        No.
16:15 jcamins        Each version is released with the appropriate po files.
16:17 gerundio       so, to get the latest changes in I have to use the other method, right?
16:17 jcamins        No.
16:17 jcamins        You have to use the translate script no matter what.
16:17 jcamins        If you want to download new po files you can.
16:18 jcamins        You just download them over the existing ones.
16:20 jenkins_koha   Project Koha_master build #949: SUCCESS in 1 hr 51 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/949/
16:20 jenkins_koha   Paul Poulain: Bug 9122: fix the problem when writing-off a fine
16:20 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9122 blocker, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Pushed to Master , Writing off fees broken
16:22 jenkins_koha   Project Koha_3.10.x build #15: SUCCESS in 1 hr 23 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.10.x/15/
16:22 jenkins_koha   * f.demians: 3.10.0 Translation Update
16:22 jenkins_koha   * Paul Poulain: Bug 9122: fix the problem when writing-off a fine
16:22 jenkins_koha   * Paul Poulain: Bug 9018 generated ccsr translation file
16:22 jenkins_koha   * Paul Poulain: Bug 9018 Italian translation of ccsr.po
16:22 jenkins_koha   * Paul Poulain: Bumping version to 3.10.0 and adding sponsors that are were not already written
16:22 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9018 normal, P5 - low, ---, ruth, NEW , Po file for ccsr theme missing on translate.koha-community.org
16:25 gerundio       jcamins, when you say "just download them over the existing ones", you're refering to the ones at /usr/share/koha/misc/translator/po?
16:27 jcamins        Right.
16:27 gerundio       while we're on it, how does the translation workflow work?
16:28 gerundio       I just submitted the po file with some error corrections
16:28 gerundio       there's a language manager who will review it?
16:28 jenkins_koha   Starting build #16 for job Koha_3.10.x (previous build: SUCCESS)
16:28 jcamins        Yes, the translation manager will review it for 3.12.
16:31 gerundio       hmm, so it doesn't really matter that I've submitted a file intended for version 3.8?
16:31 jcamins_away   Oh, yeah, it could go into 3.8.8.
16:31 jcamins_away   If it's versioned for 3.8 and not master.
16:31 gerundio       cool
16:31 * jcamins_away has to go.
16:31 jcamins_away   Router reboot.
16:32 gerundio       cya and thanks for the help :)
16:35 reiveune       bye
16:36 paul_p         jcamins_away = I've a bad news for you = you're now the Release Manager :D :D
16:37 magnuse        hehe
16:37 Oak            paul_p++
16:39 magnuse        yeah paul_p++
16:39 clrh           \o/
16:39 magnuse        paul_p: are your awesome "enhanced" release notes available anywhere?
16:39 paul_p         magnuse = it's the 1st line of http://koha-community.org/koha-3-10-0-released/ ;-)
16:40 paul_p         (PDF version. For an unknown reason, I can't upload the .odt on koha-community.org ("disabled by security")
16:40 * magnuse      doesn't see the forest for the trees!
16:40 magnuse        thanks paul_p
16:42 Oak            mister anderson!
16:43 tweetbot`      [off] twitter: @paul_poulain: "#kohails 3.10.0 Released = http://t.co/SGtsLhvi"
16:43 Oak            my name, is Neo.
16:45 * cait         waves
16:47 Oak            cait?
16:47 wahanui        cait is qam, not your secretary
16:47 Oak            hehe. this one is funny.
16:47 cait           yes Oak?
16:47 wahanui        i heard Oak was Arslan. I am a student doing masters in Library Science (2nd semester). I am a web developer and work in Joomla. or good
16:47 Oak            no i just wanted to see if the 'make slides' one was still on...
16:47 magnuse        slides?
16:47 wahanui        kf should be writing slides
16:48 Oak            ah yes
16:48 magnuse        ...and cait is now qam! congrats!
16:48 * magnuse      wanders off to make pizza
16:48 Oak            cait++
16:48 cait           :)
16:48 cait           thx magnuse
16:50 Oak            wow these release notes are literally awesome: http://koha-community.org/files/2012/11/Koha-3.10-enhancements.pdf
16:51 cait           I still have to read them!
16:51 cait           no spoilers :)
16:51 cait           hehe
16:51 cait           catching up on emails now
16:53 huginn         New commit(s) kohagit: Update history to reflect 3.10.0 and 3.8.7 releases <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=844593461226710f2d72ccaaa1d99a5776b84a34> / Adding 3.10 release notes <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=7703dd6ce3f3454e0a4a2c31093e0a48bf0fc8a5> / Bumping version to 3.10.0 and adding sponsors that are were not already written <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a
16:53 jcamins_1way   Okay...
16:53 jcamins        Bug 8661.
16:53 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8661 minor, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Passed QA , break out additional authors in opac like in staff
16:57 jcamins        Oh, never mind. It doesn't look right anyway.
16:58 jenkins_koha   Starting build #950 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS)
16:58 * Oak          hides from paul_p
16:59 paul_p         Oak = why do you hide ?
17:00 Oak            oh never mind :)
17:08 gerundio       is it possible to upload images on koha to use on the "OpacMainUserBlock"?
17:08 jcamins        gerundio: not really, no.
17:08 gerundio       thanks jcamins
17:08 Oak            me go now.
17:09 cait           bye Oak :)
17:17 drojf          good evening #koha
17:18 paul_p         OK, bye bye #koha, see you on monday !
17:19 drojf          oh, habemus 3.10!
17:19 cait           bye paul_p and paul_p++
17:19 cait           hi drojf :)
17:19 cait           my ic stopped in th emiddle of nowhere... is this a good sign?
17:20 drojf          cait: you're still on the train?
17:20 drojf          but on the way back?
17:20 cait           yep
17:20 drojf          (i hope)
17:20 cait           exam written, on my way back now
17:20 drojf          ok :)
17:20 drojf          how did it go?
17:20 cait           not sure, I never know
17:20 cait           the grade will show it
17:20 drojf          ok, so it's very good :P
17:21 drojf          wow, that's some fancy and extensive release notes.
17:22 jenkins_koha   Project Koha_3.10.x build #16: SUCCESS in 53 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.10.x/16/
17:22 jenkins_koha   Paul Poulain: Adding 3.10 release notes
17:23 drojf          and they have my name inside \o/
17:23 huginn         New commit(s) kohagit: Merge branch 'bug_8664' into 3.12-master <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=48ce46e8fbcc2a249930bb8ee84b1aabc9667050> / Bug 8664 - Add floating toolbar with save button to system preferences editor <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=4fbadbaed42f6a5045246a13d228cbb678a9ab84> / Merge branch 'bug_8758' into 3.12-master <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git
17:25 cait           drojf: congrats :)
17:25 cait           48 pages
17:26 jcamins        Okay, I have a problem.
17:26 cait           that's quite a bit to read on the train :)
17:26 cait           uhoh
17:26 jcamins        updatedatabase doesn't work now that I have pushed a patch for 3.11.
17:26 cait           hm
17:26 cait           why would it do that
17:26 cait           or not do that....
17:27 jcamins        I don't know.
17:27 jcamins        It worked fine to 3.10.0, but now it will not upgrade past that.
17:28 * cait         thinks
17:28 jcamins        Oh, figured it out.
17:28 cait           oh good
17:28 cait           becasue I have no idea
17:32 tcohen         how is the release notes created? our university name is always broken
17:33 drojf          tcohen: it's not broken, it's french spelling :P
17:33 tcohen         heh
17:34 jcamins        tcohen: it's probably a copy-and-paste problem.
17:34 jcamins        For some reason the UTF-8 often gets double-encoded.
17:34 tcohen         exactly
17:34 cait           tcohen: yeah, git-bz choked on your patches too :( had to do it manually
17:35 tcohen         oh, so my git-bz setup might be broken, i'll check
17:35 cait           some ascii something warning, I think it was the sponsored by line
17:35 Manderson1     Hello all
17:36 cait           tcohen: not sure it was you, some people touched the patches between you and me :) and might well be my git bz settings, i don't know
17:38 tcohen         thanks cait
17:38 drojf          i hope i did not touch them. i had a problem with encoding for s short period of time
17:39 tweetbot`      [off] twitter: @jsicot: "Bonjour, nous sommes toujours à la recherche de beta testeurs http://t.co/jUprSseW Merci pour vos retours #kohails #mobile"
17:40 jcamins        Seriously? Another new mobile interface which isn't shared?
17:41 cait           we have one now that w have to maintain
17:41 cait           we still have to figure out how to do that I think...
17:41 cait           time will show
17:41 jcamins        cait: apparently there's no point, since people who actually use mobile interfaces are 100% closed.
17:41 cait           hm?
17:42 jcamins        If everyone is just going to write their own mobile interface, I don't see much point in Koha having a good mobile interface built in.
17:43 jcamins        So really all we need to do to maintain it -- as far as I can see -- is keep it functioning.
17:43 huginn         New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 8163: Click to populate XSLT preferences with "default" or empty values <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=c5e91b8060b21e497a1bf4455fe4559278d534d8>
17:43 jcamins        I had visions of the mobile interface being improved, but the CCSR interface works well enough for me now, which I guess is the important thing.
17:44 cait           you had visions? :)
17:44 jcamins        (because I may be the only one interested in using an open source mobile interface)
17:44 jcamins        Well, dreams.
17:44 cait           no you are not
17:44 cait           a lot of libraries are excited about that
17:44 cait           and you are being ironic, right? sarcastic?
17:44 jcamins        Not entirely.
17:45 jcamins        We're approaching ten distinct mobile interfaces for Koha, and only one of them was shared.
17:45 jcamins        Well, two were shared, I suppose, but both _way_ after it was too late for them to be easily integrated.
17:46 jcamins        One of them I spent a considerable amount of time to integrate anyway.
17:46 cait           I know
17:46 cait           but I think libraries love you for that :)
17:46 jcamins        Well good.
17:47 jcamins        I'll believe it when I see the interface used instead of another dozen libraries paying a small fortune for closed-source mobile interfaces.
17:50 drojf          interesting to see they have money for that. i heard of a search rewrite that is said to be very important for koha that could use funding
17:50 cait           ah yes
17:51 cait           I heard that too....
17:51 jcamins        [off] Let's rearrange deck chairs at great cost, then demand that the search results be made relevant for free.
17:51 * cait         sends cookies to jcamins
17:51 cait           lots of them
17:51 jcamins        :)
18:13 huginn         New commit(s) kohagit: Merge branch 'bug_8546' into 3.12-master <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=560e2d7f6739f6f5112d32725ae1c82f1beedf73> / Bug 8546 - Error in description of OPAC Advanced Search Publication date range search <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=8c1aa96d02e9c0cc8b9389213ad0b1a496172d29> / Bug 8983: Typo in UNIMARCslim2OPACResults.xsl <http://git.koha-community.org/gitwe
18:18 jenkins_koha   Project Koha_master build #950: SUCCESS in 1 hr 20 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/950/
18:18 jenkins_koha   * Paul Poulain: Bumping version to 3.10.0 and adding sponsors that are were not already written
18:18 jenkins_koha   * Paul Poulain: Adding 3.10 release notes
18:18 jenkins_koha   * jcamins: Update history to reflect 3.10.0 and 3.8.7 releases
18:20 jenkins_koha   Starting build #951 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS)
18:23 jcamins        This one is going to fail. :(
18:24 samuel         hi everybody
18:28 rangi          morning
18:28 rangi          paul_p++
18:29 bag            morning
18:30 rangi          for the record, will we definitely be using the mobile interface that comes with koha
18:30 jcamins        Woohoo!
18:30 * rangi        has no desire to maintain forks
18:30 jcamins        That makes two groups using it!
18:30 cait           hm what did I miss? :)
18:30 rangi          i said we will be using the koha mobile interface
18:30 jcamins        cait: rangi says that Catalyst will not be doing a proprietary mobile interface.
18:32 cait           that's very thoughtful of catalyst
18:32 cait           I think?
18:32 rangi          not thoughtful
18:32 rangi          lazy
18:32 rangi          who has time to reinvent wheels
18:32 rangi          i have space elevators to build
18:32 cait           and beamers
18:33 jcamins        rangi: everyone else who wants a mobile interface for Koha, it seems like?
18:33 cait           that would make kohacons so easy
18:33 cait           or koha pizza wednesdays
18:33 jcamins        And karma could be sent in the form of real cookies. :)
18:33 wahanui        could be sent in the form of real cookies. :) has neutral karma
18:33 * rangi        will run the stats for 3.10.0 now
18:34 * jcamins      anticipates a fairly good showing from C & P.
18:35 rangi          yep
18:35 * cait         anticipates quite a disappointment
18:36 rangi          i should do 3.8.7 too at some point also
18:45 rangi          ok, stats are done
18:45 jcamins        Oh, great.
18:45 jcamins        Could someone please try logging into an OPAC running 3.10?
18:46 jcamins        Using the login link at the top right.
18:46 cait           works for me
18:46 cait           but it#s a copy from this morning - so I miss the last patches I think
18:47 rangi          lemme try
18:48 jcamins        Oh, I think this might be a MariaDB thing.
18:48 jcamins        Fingers crossed.
18:48 samuel         works for me too
18:48 jcamins        samuel: you're on latest master?
18:48 jcamins        Or new-ish master, anyway.
18:49 rangi          ill checkout the tag
18:49 samuel         jcamins:yes, the latest
18:49 jcamins        samuel: thanks.
18:49 jcamins        Yeah, looks like I've encountered some weird MariaDB thing.
18:50 jcamins        Or maybe it's a Plack thing.
18:50 jcamins        Though I've logged in under Plack and I'm not sure what could have changed.
18:50 rangi          yep, 3.10.0 works for me
18:51 * jcamins      breathes a sigh of relief.
18:51 tweetbot`      [off] twitter: @ranginui: "Git statistics for Koha 3.10.0 http://t.co/Lu08HjWz  #kohails"
18:52 jcamins        Ohhh.
18:52 jcamins        I see the problem.
18:52 jcamins        Phew.
18:52 jcamins        Nothing to do with Koha.
18:52 rangi          :)
18:54 jcamins        Sadly tagging fails spectacularly under MariaDB + Plack.
18:55 rangi          http://www.stuff.co.nz/technology/7984019/Egressive-seeks-to-be-part-of-Catalyst-IT
18:58 * cait-m_      waves
18:58 rangi          re cait-m_
18:58 cait-m_        last train, now home soon
18:59 rangi          @later tell druthb lemme know when you want to switch dns
18:59 huginn         rangi: The operation succeeded.
18:59 rangi          @later tell druthb also, did you see the thread about moving the .po files to their own repo, if you want me to i can make koha-translations on git.koha-community.org for you
19:00 huginn         rangi: The operation succeeded.
19:00 * rangi        will give it a day or so, then start pushing to 3.10.x and 3.8.x again
19:00 cait-m_        :-)
19:01 * jcamins      did not give it any time.
19:02 rangi          school fair and kahu's birthday party this weekend, won't have time to test properly :)
19:02 cait-m_        koha-community++
19:04 cait-m_        rangi: busy!
19:19 cait-m_        train cancelled
19:20 cait-m_        \me loves travelling
19:20 samuel         me too, In Paris
19:28 jenkins_koha   Project Koha_master build #951: UNSTABLE in 1 hr 8 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/951/
19:28 jenkins_koha   * Paul Poulain: Bug 9008: warn if user is logged-in with admin account
19:28 jenkins_koha   * oleonard: Bug 9008 [Follow-up] Warn if librarian logged-in with mysql/admin account
19:28 jenkins_koha   * magnus: Bug 2832 - Make alphabet localizable
19:28 jenkins_koha   * jcamins: Bug 2832: Increment version number
19:28 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9008 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Warn if librarian logged-in with mysql/admin account
19:28 jenkins_koha   * jonathan.druart: Bug 8758: Remove useless code in circ/returns.pl
19:28 jenkins_koha   * jcamins: Update kohaversion for 3.11.000.001
19:28 jenkins_koha   * oleonard: Bug 8664 - Add floating toolbar with save button to system preferences editor
19:28 jenkins_koha   * oleonard: Bug 8163: Click to populate XSLT preferences with "default" or empty values
19:29 jenkins_koha   * fridolyn.somers: Bug 8983: Typo in UNIMARCslim2OPACResults.xsl
19:29 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=2832 normal, P3, ---, magnus, Pushed to Master , Make alphabet localizable
19:29 jenkins_koha   * oleonard: Bug 8546 - Error in description of OPAC Advanced Search Publication date range search
19:29 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8758 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , Code seems useless in circ/returns.pl
19:29 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8664 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Add floating toolbar with save button to system preferences editor
19:29 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8163 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Click to populate XSLT preferences with "default" or empty values
19:29 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8983 minor, P5 - low, ---, fridolyn.somers, Pushed to Master , Typo error in UNIMARCslim2OPACResults.xsl
19:29 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8546 trivial, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Error in description of OPAC Advanced Search Publication date range search
19:29 jcamins        rangi: when you get a chance could you update the database on jenkins?
19:29 rangi          will do
19:30 rangi          done
21:05 magnuse        jcamins: the adaptive design of the ccsr got a very positive response at my "get to know koha" thing :-)
21:07 maximep        :D
21:09 maximep        always make us happyto get good feedback on it =)
21:11 magnuse        :-)
21:11 * magnuse      goes to slepp
21:58 huginn         New commit(s) kohagit: Merge branch 'bug_8660' into 3.12-master <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=f13b13dc16729a0d5839a47cadd1aeaff3a5fdfb> / Bug 8660: follow-up: Porting changes to ccsr theme <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=dd5ce614aae53032c08cd161eb1d1392a87fdf85> / Bug 8660: Tag status does not show on multiple tag add <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff
21:58 jenkins_koha   Starting build #952 for job Koha_master (previous build: UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #950 5 hr 0 min ago)
22:36 tweetbot`      [off] twitter: @kohails: "#kohails  Git statistics for Koha 3.10.0 http://t.co/5lGAZOBj"
23:07 jenkins_koha   Yippie, build fixed!
23:07 jenkins_koha   Project Koha_master build #952: FIXED in 1 hr 8 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/952/
23:07 jenkins_koha   * oleonard: Bug 5521 - item edit form appears if no items found
23:07 jenkins_koha   * oleonard: Bug 8899 [Revised] Remove unused CSS declarations from staff client CSS
23:07 jenkins_koha   * oleonard: Bug 8986: Batch patron modification template corrections
23:07 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5521 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , item edit form appears if no items found
23:07 jenkins_koha   * jonathan.druart: Bug 8986: Followup FIX a JS error if there is no valid card number
23:07 jenkins_koha   * fridolyn.somers: Bug 8660: Tag status does not show on multiple tag add
23:07 jenkins_koha   * fridolyn.somers: Bug 8660: follow-up: Porting changes to ccsr theme
23:07 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8899 minor, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Remove unused CSS declarations from staff client CSS
23:07 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8986 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Batch patron modification template corrections
23:07 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8660 normal, P5 - low, ---, fridolyn.somers, Pushed to Master , Tag status does not show on multiple tag add
23:19 wajasu         jcamins_away: ++   great release!!!
23:20 wajasu         after reading all those release notes, one can really see how much work folks have done!
23:23 jcamins_away   wajasu: Paul is the one who released 3.10.
23:23 * jcamins_away just pushed patches to master for the last three weeks.
23:23 jcamins_away   I'll be using his design for the release notes for 3.12.
23:24 wajasu         paul_p: ++   then
23:25 wajasu         do you think its worth regenerating http://schema.koha-community.org/   or does he do that later.
23:28 jcamins_away   I think rangi can do it.
23:28 jcamins_away   I don't know, though.
23:40 tweetbot`      [off] twitter: @bibunad: ""@kohails: #kohails Git statistics for Koha 3.10.0 http://t.co/iZ3XOkVV""