Time Nick Message 00:11 jcamins_away eythian: ohh, that makes the response intelligible. 00:40 eythian jcamins: if I want to link some biblios on 3.8, what LinkerModule should I use? 00:40 eythian err, biblios to authorities 00:41 jcamins I prefer LastMatch. 00:42 jcamins Fridolyn prefers FirstMatch. 00:42 jcamins And "Default" is the most like what you're used to. 00:42 jcamins It depends on what exactly you have in your authority file. 00:43 eythian I have authorities... 00:43 eythian (this isn't an area I know a lot about) 00:43 wizzyrea (me either, for that matter) 00:44 jcamins Well, are the newer authorities superior or inferior? 00:44 jcamins And, for that matter, are there any duplicates? 00:45 eythian I think this auth file is actually from a proper database, so probably not. 00:45 jcamins In that case it doesn't matter. :) 00:45 eythian I'm just seeing things that I think should be linked up that aren't 00:46 jcamins In that case, you there may be duplicates. 00:46 jcamins I prefer LastMatch. 00:46 eythian so, default skips any duplicates? 00:46 jcamins Right. 00:47 eythian ah 00:48 eythian so, I have an authority that is 150$a EUCALYPTUS REGNANS, 550$a EUCALYPTUS; and another one that is 150$a EUCALYPTUS, 550$a (lots but including) EUCALYPTUS REGNANS ... is there some magic "make it all one" thing? 00:48 eythian I'm guessing no, but... 00:48 jcamins No, those are two different authorities. 00:49 eythian oh right 00:49 eythian There needs to be a "Match biggest" then :) 00:50 jcamins That'd be an interesting criterion, but those two authorities are completely different. 00:50 eythian does the matcher prefer 150$a? 00:50 jcamins Okay, crash course in authorities: 00:51 jcamins 1xx = main entry 00:51 eythian actually, a better question: would those be considered duplicates? 00:51 eythian because it's one that isn't matching 00:51 jcamins Not at all duplicate. 00:51 jcamins They don't even refer to the same concepts. 00:51 jcamins 4xx = see *from* 00:51 jcamins Where a term has changed or whatever. 00:51 jcamins 5xx = see *also* 00:52 eythian oh right 00:52 jcamins So authority (A) should match only EUCALYPTUS REGNANS and authority (B) should match only EUCALYPTUS. 00:53 jcamins Unfortunately apparently it's doing something wrong? 00:53 eythian In that case there's something else going on, there's only one record with EU.G. in 150 00:53 eythian does the linker require an up-to-date zebra index? 00:53 jcamins Yes. 00:53 jcamins The linker is entirely Zebra-based. 00:53 eythian possibly that was the issue 00:53 eythian there may have been stale data 00:54 eythian I'll re-run it, see what happens. 00:55 jcamins Also, how are you seeing that the link didn't work? 00:56 eythian because there are "0 biblios" results for things where I think it should have linked 00:56 eythian (when using the auth search screen) 00:56 jcamins Ah, yeah, that doesn't tell you anything after running the linker. 00:57 eythian oh? 00:57 jcamins That's generated with Zebra. 00:57 eythian even looking at some of the records it didn't appear right. 00:57 jcamins Unless you have an absurdly small number of records, it's going to take a loooooong time for zebraqueue to catch up. 00:57 jcamins Okay, if you were looking at bibs, then you were checking in the right way. :) 00:57 eythian this system is, alas, not absurdly small. 00:58 jcamins I figured. 00:58 jcamins Otherwise there wouldn't be subjects for EUCALYPTUS *and* EUCALYPTUS REGNANS. 00:58 eythian ~50k subject authorities, ~130k bibs. 00:59 jenkins_koha Starting build #68 for job Koha_3.6.x (previous build: SUCCESS) 00:59 eythian well, the subject authorities are actually from a standard research thingy that a few groups around here seem to use. 00:59 eythian called DINO or something like that. 01:07 wizzyrea shouldn't "Patrons (anonymize, bulk-delete)" be something like 01:08 wizzyrea Batch patron deletion or anonymization 01:08 wizzyrea patron batch mod is just "batch patron modification" 01:08 melia yes, I would think so 01:09 wizzyrea just seems obtuse and hard to find the way it is now. 01:09 wizzyrea I will consider changing it. 01:09 wizzyrea (sorry translators) 01:09 wizzyrea i know koha and I can't find it >.< 01:16 eythian jcamins: why would the linker have this: oAuth error: Query term includes characters that do not translate into the target character set (1072) Bib-1 01:16 eythian what's oAuth doing in there? 01:17 jcamins eythian: that's a Zebra error. 01:17 eythian OK. I'll ignore it then, so far it's the only one 01:17 jcamins And I can't imagine what character can't be translated to UTF-8. 01:17 eythian probably some oddball MARC-8 in there somewhere or something 01:17 jcamins (note: I like not knowing!) 01:25 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.6.x build #68: SUCCESS in 26 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.6.x/68/ 01:25 jenkins_koha * adrien.saurat: Bug 8234: fixes date sort on 'Transfers to receive' page 01:25 jenkins_koha * oleonard: Bug 8973 [3.6.x] HTML and URL escape missing in OPAC templates 01:25 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8234 minor, P5 - low, ---, adrien.saurat, RESOLVED FIXED, Dates are not well sorted on Transfers to receive 01:25 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8973 normal, P5 - low, ---, fridolyn.somers, Needs Signoff , HTML and URL escape missing in OPAC templates 01:25 wizzyrea \o/ 01:26 wajasu hip hip 01:26 wizzyrea ow my hip 01:34 eythian so unhip! 01:51 eythian jcamins: have you ever seen something like using '#' to bracket italics? e.g. " and taper of #Eucalyptus regnans# grown in the central North Island of New Zealand"? 01:51 jcamins Never. 01:51 eythian hmm weird 01:52 eythian also, if 650$9 isn't in the framework, is that likely to cause a problem for the linking? 01:53 jcamins Uhhh, yeah. 01:53 jcamins If 650$9 isn't in the framework, you have a seriously screwed up framework. 01:53 jcamins And no hope of linking working. 01:53 eythian hmm 01:53 eythian I can't see it, but maybe they just hid it 01:54 eythian nope, they deleted it 01:54 jcamins Hidden would make sense. 01:54 eythian damn 01:54 jcamins Deleted would be bad. 01:55 eythian I'm pretty sure I told them not to delete things in the frameworks, just to hide them. 01:55 jcamins Of course. So why are you surprised they were deleted after an invitation like that? :P 01:55 eythian heh 01:57 eythian I'm tempted to put a "yes, I know what I'm doing and should be allowed to delete framework entries" syspref that defaults to off. 01:58 jcamins That actually makes a lot of sense. 01:58 eythian perhaps also a button that makes hiding things a bit easier to encourage that to be used instead. 01:59 jcamins I'd say at the very least we should kill the stupid "enter a random number into the box." 02:00 eythian > update biblio set frameworkcode=''; 02:00 eythian problem solved, temporarily 02:00 eythian oh yeah,that's terrible and could be three checkboxes 02:00 jcamins Heh. That works. 02:06 wizzyrea that number scheme 02:06 wizzyrea is the devil. 02:06 wizzyrea DEVIL. 02:08 eythian oh wow, they totally gutted the framework. 02:08 eythian $ wc -l *.csv 02:08 eythian 112 export_ANA.csv 02:08 eythian 118 export_BOOK.csv 02:08 eythian 3854 export_JNL.csv 02:08 eythian I think the default framework would be a bit bigger than JNL 02:10 jcamins I would think so, yes. 02:48 eythian wow, 3r biblios linked to the authority "NZMS260D45" 02:48 eythian *36 02:49 eythian jcamins: "see also" doesn't form a link like I would expect. Is that just a "no one has done it yet" thing? 02:49 eythian or is it not what it's supposed to do? 02:51 * eythian also note that the "is exactly" authority search gives the same results as "contains", whereas "starts with" works. 03:03 jcamins eythian: the links are only based on the $9. 03:04 eythian oh right 03:04 eythian so you'd need to link within the authority records to do something like that. 03:04 eythian (is that a thing people do?) 03:04 jcamins So if you don't have any -- and you won't, I haven't written a script to populate them yet -- the see also links won't be direct. 03:05 jcamins Oh, and the staff client authority view was so awful that I couldn't add all the attractive links that I did on the OPAC. 03:06 jcamins The code made my head wibble like a weeble's in a most distressing fashion. 03:06 eythian ah 03:07 eythian I didn't actually look in the OPAC 03:07 jcamins The OPAC is nicer. 03:08 jcamins The theory being that librarians have learned to cope. 03:08 wajasu GetAuthorizedheading Can't call method "field" on an undefined value at /home/koha/kohaclone/C4/AuthoritiesMarc.pm line 1191 03:09 jcamins Looks like you truncated auth_header without reindexing? 03:09 wajasu ok 03:09 jcamins I mean, there is a bug there. 03:09 wajasu reindexing bibs? or auth? 03:09 jcamins It doesn't test that there's actually an authority record retrieved. 03:09 jcamins Reindexing authorities. 03:09 wajasu ok 03:10 jcamins Also, while you're at it, report a bug with a description of how you produced it? 03:10 * jcamins 'll fix it, but not right this moment. 03:10 wajasu no problem. 03:18 jcamins kohacon 2013? 03:18 jcamins kohacon13? 03:18 wahanui kohacon13 is, like, http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Kohacon2013#Proposals_for_hosting 03:18 jcamins wahanui: forget kohacon13 03:18 wahanui jcamins: I forgot kohacon13 03:18 jcamins kohacon13 is http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/KohaCon13_Summary 03:18 jcamins Kohacon 2013 is http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/KohaCon13_Summary 03:19 jcamins There is going to be a Kohacon, right? 03:24 wizzyrea afaik yea 03:27 eythian Yeah, there was an email about it a while back. Late sept/oct sort of time 03:28 eythian so there's plenty of time yet 03:35 rangi mid october 03:35 rangi they said in the last meeting 03:35 rangi thats the best rates for conference venues 05:05 eythian I hate you milkman reprepro 05:05 eythian in related news, new master packages uploading 05:06 eythian s/ing/ed/ 06:13 WaqarAzeem Hi, in my installation, On main search at the top there is no combo box to select library. is there any any setting for this to enabale it. 06:28 WaqarAzeem i found it. thanks OpacAddMastheadLibraryPulldown 07:36 alex_a hello 08:02 gaetan_B hello 08:05 lds Hello 08:44 paul_p good morning #koha 09:21 * magnuse waves 09:51 * kf waves bag 09:51 * kf waves back 09:53 magnuse :-) 09:55 magnuse @arewethereyet 09:55 huginn magnuse: Not yet - wait 2 days 09:55 magnuse ooohhhh... 10:02 mveron Hi #koha 10:02 magnuse hiya mveron 10:02 kf hi mveron 10:02 mveron :-) 10:02 kf mveron: did you see my note on the language code patch? 10:02 kf sorry, only wantt o ask you before I forget again 10:02 mveron kf: Sorry, no 10:03 kf mveron: you only did en - we will need a follow up for de-DE to get it working :) 10:07 magnuse what are you talking about - would it concern nb-NO too? 10:07 mveron kf: Ah, I see. 10:08 mveron magnuse: Bug 9056 10:08 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9056 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, veron, Signed Off , Add more translations to table language_descriptions 10:08 mveron But the files would be the same in all languages? 10:09 kf mveron: but only the files from your language folder are used 10:10 kf afaik 10:10 kf but I am quite sure here, we would need a solution like for sysprefs.sql to change that I think 10:10 kf so either we copy the file to all other languages - or we make it use a general file 10:10 * mveron ...gets a phone call 10:11 kf only wnated to point it out - so it doesn't get missed 10:11 kf and thx a lot for doing this translation :) 10:12 kf magnuse: yep, affecting nb-NO too - bug 8954 10:12 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8954 normal, P5 - low, ---, fridolyn.somers, Signed Off , Languages list in advanced search always in english 10:13 magnuse ah yes, thanks 10:14 magnuse are those two bugs really duplicates? 10:17 kf the sip? 10:17 wahanui the sip is enough to make me drink stronger things than wizzyrea's usual beer. Like whiskey. 10:18 magnuse ouch 10:18 kf hm? 10:18 kf magnuse: you are confusing me :) 10:19 magnuse me too .-) 10:19 kf ah good then :) 10:19 kf ;) 10:20 magnuse yup 10:32 * mveron is back 10:39 mveron kf and magnuse: Bug 8954 adds the functionallity to display the languages correctly in opac-search.pl and search.pl and Bug 9056 provides the information in the table language_descriptions. (Not all language names are translated into all langages) 10:39 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8954 normal, P5 - low, ---, fridolyn.somers, Signed Off , Languages list in advanced search always in english 10:39 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9056 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, veron, Signed Off , Add more translations to table language_descriptions 10:42 mveron kf: Other question: Is http://translate.koha-community.org/de/ finished? - Can I take the files for de-CH? 10:42 kf I think we still might find some smaller erros 10:42 kf but I checked the files with poedit some time ago - they shoudl be ok 10:43 kf I think you and mirko did most of it? I only finished off a little bit in the end 10:43 mveron OK, i take them in the afternoon. If there are small changes I can apply them on de-CH if necessary. 10:43 magnuse ah, thanks for clearing that up mveron 10:50 mveron magnuse, kf: We have the problem that the file subtag_registry.sql should be distributed to all installer folders (installer/data/mysql/[LANGUAGE]/mandatory), or the installer should always take it from installer/data/mysql/en/mandatory 10:52 * mveron will add a comment to Bug 9056 10:52 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9056 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, veron, Signed Off , Add more translations to table language_descriptions 10:54 kf mveron: yes exactly 10:54 kf one is the easy fix... the other harder but right 10:54 * mveron has to head away... Mahlzeit :-) 10:58 kf enjoy :) 10:59 magnuse we should avoid having x number of copies of the same file, of course 10:59 kf yep 10:59 magnuse could we have one big file similar to the sysprefs file? 10:59 kf yep 11:40 kf paul_p++ 11:40 kf # passing qa on my installer fixes :) 11:41 paul_p ;-) 11:41 kf paul_p++ #awesome release notes 11:41 kf paul_p: I wrote a patch for corecting the english installer files too - maybe take a look. I think it got a sign off by a native speaker so is hopefully alright 11:42 paul_p kf = I'm QAing all signed-off bugfixes atm, so I should reach this one, isn't it? 11:42 kf paul_p: yep I think so :) thx! 11:42 paul_p kf (well, not atm, because I'm about to leave for lunch. /me hungry !) 11:42 kf enjoy your lunch, having lunch here soon too, once I figured out what's going wrong with overdues for this library. hm. 12:00 drojf good day #koha 12:00 drojf lol jcamins_away that is exactly what i thought when i read it 12:01 jcamins drojf: well of course. 12:01 drojf let's do it ;) 12:02 jcamins paul_p: do you want bug 8997 in 3.10? 12:02 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8997 major, P5 - low, ---, paul.poulain, Passed QA , Dead code in C4/Language causing useless SQL queries 12:02 jcamins paul_p: could you please as Joubu if the follow-up on bug 9046 is supposed to say "Perl v5.10" in the commit message? 12:02 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9046 critical, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Passed QA , Items are not exported with the tools/export.pl 12:12 jcamins drojf: your mission, should you choose to accept it (warning: you don't have a choice): test bug 9024. 12:12 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9024 normal, P5 - low, ---, katrin.fischer, Passed QA , Add additional sample data to German installer 12:14 * jcamins does his best to look commanding. 12:17 drojf i have to check what real work i have to do before but i try to find some time to do it :) 12:17 jcamins It's very easy. 12:18 jcamins You just have to check that the German is... German. 12:18 jcamins I confirmed that the files work. 12:18 jcamins What I did not confirm was that the text made any sense at all. 12:19 drojf german rarely does :D 12:19 jcamins lol 12:19 jcamins You said it not me. :P 12:23 paul_p drojf lol :D 12:23 paul_p 'morning jcamins 12:23 paul_p jcamins OK for 8997 in 3.10 12:24 * paul_p is back from lunch and back to QAing... 12:25 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Merge branch 'bug_9058' into 3.12-master <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=90ddc20c074e05c416d2acb02c6a92d11e5cd3ce> / Bug 9058 - Norwegian default for CalendarFirstDayOfWeek <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=369163925f68efbc074e18fe5f114c86bf1c266e> / Merge branch 'bug_9107' into 3.12-master <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=f3eb27 12:26 kf drojf: hey :) 12:26 * kf is back from lunch too 12:27 drojf hi kf :) 12:27 * wajasu starts a new day 12:28 drojf i'd like to start a new day too 12:29 jenkins_koha Starting build #944 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS) 12:29 drojf jcamins: so do you want me to install it to check or just check the patch? i did the latter an it is alright. 12:30 drojf patches even 12:32 kf drojf: thx :) 12:32 jcamins drojf: that's fine. 12:33 jcamins If you have time to install it, that'd be better. 12:33 kf jcamins: you don't trust me? 12:33 kf :P 12:33 drojf ok i'll do it later. seems like there is not much to do here today 12:36 Joubu hi #koha 12:36 kf hi Joubu 12:38 jcamins Joubu: I have a question for you about bug 9046 12:38 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9046 critical, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Passed QA , Items are not exported with the tools/export.pl 12:38 jcamins The follow-up says "perl v.10" in the commit message. 12:38 jcamins Should I change it to "perl v5.10"? 12:38 Joubu jcamins: yes, of course! 12:38 Joubu :) 12:38 jcamins Thanks. 12:45 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Merge branch 'bug_9046' into 3.12-master <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=d44b552b3f22c7423038f831d622bfe67a543936> / Bug 9046: Followup FIX perl v5.10 raises an error if itemnumbers if undefined <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=ff61e9f16fc26e3299adf8d724f50e31c478c365> / Merge branch 'bug_7368' into 3.12-master <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git 12:55 jcamins paul_p: if you could ask Fridolyn to write commit messages explaining what his patches do, I would be grateful. 12:55 jcamins paul_p: what does bug 8844 do? 12:55 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8844 normal, P5 - low, ---, fridolyn.somers, Passed QA , UNIMARC_sync_date_created_with_marc_biblio.pl creates a modification log 13:15 jcamins How do I make something show up in the holdqueue report? 13:15 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Merge branch 'bug_9023' into 3.12-master <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=8ae00e638b3de13671e341afc6ec5ff0bb7de7d0> / Bug 9023: Update installer text files <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=9e5fe6df1e3e8ca20bf5473a650a5f5f4038ba69> / Bug 9023: Remove NY Z39.50 servers from installer txt files <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=990ad 13:16 jcamins Oh, right. It has a cronjob. 13:20 jcamins Okay, kc/master is now up-to-date. 13:21 jcamins Bug 8844 has not been pushed because I'm not quite sure what it does. 13:22 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8844 normal, P5 - low, ---, fridolyn.somers, Passed QA , UNIMARC_sync_date_created_with_marc_biblio.pl creates a modification log 13:22 kf jcamins++ 13:26 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 8971 - Sort holds queue report using DataTables <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=29d1aa1be0d3c073fbedd8143b4354dd8da96dcc> 13:34 jcamins Five minutes to go on the Jenkins build. 13:36 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #944: SUCCESS in 1 hr 7 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/944/ 13:36 jenkins_koha * jcamins: Bug 9066: VirtualShelves db access not Plack+MariaDB compatible 13:36 jenkins_koha * cnighswonger: Bug 9085 - Installer will not run with DEBUG set 13:36 jenkins_koha * jcamins: Bug 9107: Remove the obsolete DidYouMeanFromAuthorities syspref 13:37 jenkins_koha * Paul Poulain: Bug 9107: remove the syspref from the database, as well 13:37 jenkins_koha * jcamins: Bug 9107: Increment version number 13:37 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9066 critical, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Pushed to Master , VirtualShelves database access not Plack + MariaDB compatible 13:37 jenkins_koha * magnus: Bug 9058 - Norwegian default for CalendarFirstDayOfWeek 13:37 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9085 major, P5 - low, ---, cnighswonger, Pushed to Master , Installer will not run with DEBUG set 13:37 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9107 normal, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Pushed to Master , DidYouMeanFromAuthorities syspref obsolete 13:37 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9058 normal, P5 - low, ---, magnus, Pushed to Master , Norwegian default for CalendarFirstDayOfWeek 13:37 jcamins \o/ 13:37 jenkins_koha Starting build #945 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS) 13:57 drojf @arewethereyet 13:57 huginn drojf: Not yet - wait 2 days 14:09 gaetan_B some weeks ago someone washaving a problem exporting and importing marc frameworks, it seems that when you export, the encoding is iso-9959-1 for some reason, but when you import, koha expects UTF-8. Anyone else has had this problem , 14:09 gaetan_B ? 14:09 mveron kf: Just uploaded de-CH Pootle files for 3.10 and fixed 2 minor typos in de-DE 14:10 kf mveron: thx :) 14:10 drojf gaetan_B: i am fixing problems with broken umlauts in our frameworks right now 14:10 drojf gaetan_B: i suppose they came when importing, but not sure 14:10 gaetan_B drojf: was it you last time ? i don't remember who i discussed this with... 14:10 drojf no 14:10 kf gaetan_B: I think it should export as utf-8 too 14:10 gaetan_B importing definitely creates a number of problems i think 14:11 drojf i just stumbled across this a minute ago when lookiung for plugins not working 14:11 kf sounds like a bug? 14:11 gaetan_B kf: i think i'll report one yes 14:11 gaetan_B also when you export in SQL single quotes get escaped, and you find yourself with backslashes in your imported framework 14:12 gaetan_B the safe path i have for doing this is exporting in a csv iconv to utf-8 and then import 14:12 gaetan_B just wanted to share this with whoever it was that was having problems last time 14:12 gaetan_B s/that/who 14:13 kf hm I foudn the ms office option not wokring well 14:13 kf I am always using libreoffice now 14:13 kf but what I found not working is default values for control fields 14:15 gaetan_B oh i didn't pay attention to this 14:16 kf chris_n++ for the idea of automatically created release notes 14:23 gaetan_B oleonard: hello, i am looking at bug 9059 because of another problem i noticed, i want to ask you what you think : 14:23 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9059 trivial, P5 - low, ---, m.de.rooy, Signed Off , Increase size of opac-sendbasket window 14:24 oleonard Yes gaetan_B? 14:24 wahanui gaetan_B is probably working at Biblibre and did the nice new start page together with asaurat or a fan of icons 14:24 gaetan_B when you click on the basket link, you get a new window, if you proceed to placing holds on a number of books in your basket for instance, you then proceed to validating the holds 14:24 gaetan_B and find yourself in another koha window, with your account 14:24 gaetan_B i don't know if i managed to explain this clearly 14:25 oleonard I understand, I know the problem 14:25 gaetan_B ok, i was thinking on either commenting on the bug or opening a new one 14:25 gaetan_B i guess we should close the window once the reservation is complete 14:25 gaetan_B or get rid of the pop-up 14:26 gaetan_B what do you think ? 14:26 oleonard I was thinking perhaps clicking the "place hold" link in the cart passes the operation to the main window and closes the cart? I'm not sure how easy that would be to do. 14:27 gaetan_B i discussed this with paul_p yesterday, he mentioned there should be an easy solution, but i don't know exactly which 14:27 gaetan_B we'll probably be able to have someone working on this next monday 14:27 gaetan_B (it's critical for a project i am working on) 14:28 gaetan_B just wanted to gather your opinion 14:28 oleonard Critical because the library objects to the way it works now? 14:28 gaetan_B because it could confude users quite a lot 14:28 gaetan_B also, it's a pretty different project 14:28 gaetan_B for an ngo 14:29 gaetan_B we are making some modifications so that people will actually place orders on books on the site 14:29 gaetan_B it's a little bit twisted ;) 14:29 gaetan_B anyway, i need to figure a way that users won't find themselves ordering the same books over and over again 14:29 gaetan_B and this gets in the way 14:30 gaetan_B and i think it would be a general improvement to the interfac 14:30 gaetan_B e 14:35 oleonard gaetan_B: http://screencast.com/t/w705fI9P2550 14:35 gaetan_B oleonard: oh... that was quick :) 14:36 oleonard The holdSel() function in opac-basket.tt uses document.location to redirect to the place hold screen 14:36 oleonard I just changed that to parent.opener.document.location and added window.close() 14:37 oleonard Did you already file a bug for this? 14:37 gaetan_B should i report a bug for your patch ? 14:37 gaetan_B not yet 14:37 oleonard I think there may be one already 14:37 gaetan_B i was wondering if it would interfere with the one i mentioned earlier 14:37 gaetan_B i don't think so now 14:40 oleonard Maybe I just remember someone else (nengard?) talking about this problem, I can't find a bug report 14:40 gaetan_B ok i'll file one then 14:40 oleonard Okay, thanks 14:40 gaetan_B are there other scenarios which should be checked while we are at it ? 14:41 nengard reading back ? 14:41 nengard doesn't sound familiar to me ? 14:42 gaetan_B other options seem to be fine 14:44 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #945: UNSTABLE in 1 hr 6 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/945/ 14:44 jenkins_koha * jonathan.druart: Bug 9046: FIX wrong test on an arrayref instead of an array 14:44 tsiliha hello, does anyone remember the link of how to update koha from 3.04.01 to the latest using coha common in debian? 14:44 jenkins_koha * tomascohen: Bug 8750 - Chronological terms authorities not correctly indexed (trivial fix) 14:44 jenkins_koha * mtompset: Bug 8880 - Uninitialized variables trigger error log entries 14:44 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9046 critical, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , Items are not exported with the tools/export.pl 14:44 jenkins_koha * Paul Poulain: Bug 8997: Unnecessary call to getAllLanguages 14:44 jenkins_koha * m.de.rooy: Bug 7368: Removing occurrences of dependant= feature in javascript open calls 14:44 jenkins_koha * jonathan.druart: Bug 9046: Followup FIX perl v5.10 raises an error if itemnumbers if undefined 14:44 jenkins_koha * oleonard: Bug 7932 [Revised] Twitter share doesn't work with socialnetworks 14:44 jenkins_koha * oleonard: Bug 8975 - search results should say on order in staff client 14:44 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8750 normal, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Pushed to Master , Chronological terms authorities not correctly indexed 14:44 jenkins_koha * Katrin.Fischer.83: Bug 9020: [SIGNED-OFF] Translate new permissions for 3.10 de-DE 14:44 jenkins_koha * magnus: Bug 9020 - Translate new permissions for 3.10 nb-NO 14:44 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8880 trivial, P5 - low, ---, mtompset, Pushed to Master , Uninitialized variable triggers error log entry in circulation.pl 14:44 jenkins_koha * Katrin.Fischer.83: Bug 9023: Remove NY Z39.50 servers from installer txt files 14:44 jenkins_koha * Katrin.Fischer.83: Bug 9023: Update installer text files 14:44 jenkins_koha * oleonard: Bug 8971 - Sort holds queue report using DataTables 14:44 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8997 major, P5 - low, ---, paul.poulain, Pushed to Master , Dead code in C4/Language causing useless SQL queries 14:44 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7368 trivial, P5 - low, ---, m.de.rooy, Pushed to Master , General staff client typo omnibus 14:44 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7932 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , twitter share doesn't work with socialnetworks 14:44 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8975 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , search results should say on order in staff client 14:44 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9020 trivial, P5 - low, ---, katrin.fischer, Pushed to Master , Translate new permissions for 3.10 14:44 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9023 minor, P5 - low, ---, katrin.fischer, Pushed to Master , Update installer txt files to have more accurate information 14:44 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8971 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Sort holds queue report using DataTables 14:45 jcamins Hm. 14:45 gaetan_B oleonard: bug 9115 14:45 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9115 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, NEW , basket window should close automatically when placing a hold 14:45 jcamins Need to figure out a way to prevent the Quote of the Day test from not failing if it's run twice in rapid succession. 14:46 oleonard Thanks gaetan_B. I'll attach my patch and you can test to see if it works well for you. 14:46 gaetan_B yep, thank you oleonard :) 14:56 tsiliha mtompset has given to me a link but now i can't finde it 14:59 oleonard gaetan_B: Patch sent 14:59 jcamins packages? 14:59 wahanui packages is at http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Debian 14:59 jcamins tsiliha: ^^ 15:00 gaetan_B oleonard: ok i'm testing 15:01 tsiliha the link was a guide of a detailed guide of how to install koha-common to an existing koha version 15:03 jcamins tsiliha: I have never seen a page like that, sorry. 15:03 jcamins You might try searching the wiki. 15:04 tsiliha that's what I am doing now without success 15:06 tcohen http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Koha_on_ubuntu_-_packages 15:15 jcamins wahanui: be magnuse 15:15 wahanui let's get rid of marc while we're at it! 15:16 kf marc-- 15:16 bag YAY burn that 15:17 gaetan_B @later tell oleonard: patch tested but i didn't manage to have it work properly 15:18 huginn gaetan_B: The operation succeeded. 15:18 * mveron has to go to cook 15:18 mveron Au revoir, tot ziens, ciao, tschüss #koha :-) 15:18 mveron quit 15:28 drojf so how do i test bug 9024? clone koha from git and do whatever INSTALL.debian tells me? 15:28 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9024 normal, P5 - low, ---, katrin.fischer, Passed QA , Add additional sample data to German installer 15:29 jcamins drojf: point your koha-conf.xml to an empty database. 15:30 drojf oh that's all? 15:30 jcamins drojf: then connect to the staff client. 15:30 jcamins It'll take you to the installer. 15:36 chris_n g'morning 15:45 oleonard gaetan_B: Did you try clearing your browser cache? 15:47 gaetan_B oleonard: ah yes, it does work very nicely with a cleared cache! 15:48 oleonard Thank goodness :) 15:48 gaetan_B oleonard: not in chromium though 15:48 oleonard :( 15:48 francharb hello 15:50 oleonard Hm, it works for me in Chrome on Windows gaetan_B 15:51 gaetan_B oleonard: ok, strange 15:52 * gaetan_B is clearing the cache again 15:53 gaetan_B oleonard: which version are you using ? 15:54 oleonard "Version 23.0.1271.64 m" 15:55 gaetan_B maybe mine is outdated 15:57 oleonard I wouldn't think it would matter, the JS is very basic 15:57 oleonard It even works in IE ;) 16:05 * oleonard makes another plea for tests of Bug 9106 16:05 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9106 critical, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Needs Signoff , Filtering list of uncertain price list by owner empties order information 16:13 jenkins_koha Starting build #13 for job Koha_3.10.x (previous build: SUCCESS) 16:37 gaetan_B oleonard: i'm trying to test your patch on another computer but it looks like i wont be able to before tomorrow :( 16:38 oleonard That's fine, thanks for re-testing. 16:38 drojf yeah, being tired and screwing with the bug tracker :( 16:55 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.10.x build #13: SUCCESS in 42 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.10.x/13/ 16:55 jenkins_koha * jcamins: Bug 9066: VirtualShelves db access not Plack+MariaDB compatible 16:55 jenkins_koha * cnighswonger: Bug 9085 - Installer will not run with DEBUG set 16:55 jenkins_koha * jonathan.druart: Bug 9046: FIX wrong test on an arrayref instead of an array 16:55 jenkins_koha * jcamins: Bug 9107: Remove the obsolete DidYouMeanFromAuthorities syspref 16:55 jenkins_koha * Paul Poulain: Bug 9107: remove the syspref from the database, as well 16:55 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9066 critical, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Pushed to Master , VirtualShelves database access not Plack + MariaDB compatible 16:55 jenkins_koha * jcamins: Bug 9107: Increment version number 16:55 jenkins_koha * magnus: Bug 9058 - Norwegian default for CalendarFirstDayOfWeek 16:55 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9085 major, P5 - low, ---, cnighswonger, Pushed to Master , Installer will not run with DEBUG set 16:55 jenkins_koha * tomascohen: Bug 8750 - Chronological terms authorities not correctly indexed (trivial fix) 16:55 jenkins_koha * mtompset: Bug 8880 - Uninitialized variables trigger error log entries 16:56 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9046 critical, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , Items are not exported with the tools/export.pl 16:56 jenkins_koha * Paul Poulain: Bug 8997: Unnecessary call to getAllLanguages 16:56 jenkins_koha * m.de.rooy: Bug 7368: Removing occurrences of dependant= feature in javascript open calls 16:56 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9107 normal, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Pushed to Master , DidYouMeanFromAuthorities syspref obsolete 16:56 jenkins_koha * jonathan.druart: Bug 9046: Followup FIX perl v5.10 raises an error if itemnumbers if undefined 16:56 jenkins_koha * oleonard: Bug 7932 [Revised] Twitter share doesn't work with socialnetworks 16:56 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9058 normal, P5 - low, ---, magnus, Pushed to Master , Norwegian default for CalendarFirstDayOfWeek 16:56 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8750 normal, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Pushed to Master , Chronological terms authorities not correctly indexed 16:56 jenkins_koha * oleonard: Bug 8975 - search results should say on order in staff client 16:56 jenkins_koha * Katrin.Fischer.83: Bug 9020: [SIGNED-OFF] Translate new permissions for 3.10 de-DE 16:56 jenkins_koha * magnus: Bug 9020 - Translate new permissions for 3.10 nb-NO 16:56 jenkins_koha * Katrin.Fischer.83: Bug 9023: Remove NY Z39.50 servers from installer txt files 16:56 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8880 trivial, P5 - low, ---, mtompset, Pushed to Master , Uninitialized variable triggers error log entry in circulation.pl 16:56 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8997 major, P5 - low, ---, paul.poulain, Pushed to Master , Dead code in C4/Language causing useless SQL queries 16:56 jenkins_koha * Katrin.Fischer.83: Bug 9023: Update installer text files 16:56 jenkins_koha * oleonard: Bug 8971 - Sort holds queue report using DataTables 16:56 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7368 trivial, P5 - low, ---, m.de.rooy, Pushed to Master , General staff client typo omnibus 16:56 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7932 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , twitter share doesn't work with socialnetworks 16:56 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8975 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , search results should say on order in staff client 16:56 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9020 trivial, P5 - low, ---, katrin.fischer, Signed Off , Translate new permissions for 3.10 16:56 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9023 minor, P5 - low, ---, katrin.fischer, Pushed to Master , Update installer txt files to have more accurate information 16:56 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8971 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Sort holds queue report using DataTables 16:56 magnuse success! \o/ 16:56 oleonard If you're going to ping me like that jenkins_koha the least you can do is buy me lunch. 17:02 * magnuse waves at melia and cait 17:02 melia hi magnuse :) 17:02 cait hi magnuse and melia 17:03 cait melia++ for testing patches :) 17:03 melia thanks cait :) 17:03 magnuse yeah melia++ 17:15 Joubu bye #koha 17:18 gaetan_B bye 17:19 tcohen @later tell paul_p, is there any chance we have bug 8519 in? 17:19 huginn tcohen: The operation succeeded. 17:22 jcamins bug 8519 17:22 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8519 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Signed Off , Make koha-index-daemon run on startup 17:28 jenkins_koha Starting build #946 for job Koha_master (previous build: UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #944 4 hr 59 min ago) 17:35 martian523 hi! I have a question about permanently deleting a bib record from the database. I have already deleted the record. However, when I search for the title, it's still showing up in the catalog. When I click on it, it says it doesn't exist. So how do I completely take that record out from the catalog? 17:38 cait martian523: there is something wrong with your indexing I think 17:38 cait have you set up the cronjob to update your indexes every x minutes? 17:39 tcohen hehe 17:39 martian523 well, actually, i'm not an IT person, just a librarian, i will ask my IT team to see if that's set upt 17:39 martian523 so after that it should be ok? 17:40 tcohen martian523: if it is properly set, every update on your biblios should be applied to search results 17:41 cait yep 17:41 tcohen after that X minutes 17:41 cait so after x minutes latest you shouldn't be able to find the deleted record 17:41 cait and be able to search a newly cataloged one etc. 17:41 jcamins faq? 17:41 wahanui i think faq is found at http://koha-community.org/documentation/faq/ 17:41 cait the cronjob is crucial 17:41 jcamins ^^ the last question on that page addresses this very issue. 17:41 martian523 thanks 17:41 cait jcamins: I made a typo :( 17:41 * tcohen is still laughing, nevermind 17:42 cait jcamins: I feel like you somehow knew that I did :) 17:42 jcamins cait: I'm RM. It's my job to know these things. :P 17:42 cait hehe scary! 17:42 cait do qam get superpowers too? 17:42 jcamins We'll find out! 17:42 * cait hopes she gets something cool 17:43 tcohen I've heard RM have Super Cow Powers 17:47 cait tcohen: they can only program using moo? 18:25 nengard once you upload an image to a book (bib) in Koha is there a way to remove it? I'm not seeing one 18:25 jcamins Not to my knowledge. 18:27 nengard Well that's an oversight ? but report coming :) 18:27 nengard bug report 18:27 jcamins I think there might already be one. 18:29 nengard oops 18:29 nengard well i might have created a dup 18:29 jcamins I'm not sure of that. 18:30 jcamins If someone finds another, yours will be marked a duplicate. 18:32 rangi Morning 18:32 wahanui i guess Morning is a state of mind. or whenever the cat wants breakfast. 18:33 cait morning rangi 18:33 jcamins nengard: if you do either of those two things, you'd just replace the existing image. 18:34 nengard i don't want to replace the image - i want to remove all images 18:34 nengard i want none attached 18:34 jcamins Right, that you can't do. 18:34 nengard hence the bug report 18:34 jcamins However, in your examples of why it was needed, you were asking about replacing. 18:34 nengard well okay - i'm sick and on cold meds 18:34 nengard it was the best i could come up with 18:35 jcamins So you are not right this moment trying to replace an image? 18:35 jcamins I wasn't sure if it was a request from a librarian to replace an image. If it was, I was going to point out the "Replace existing images" checkbox. 18:36 nengard no - don't want to replace it - i put the image on the wrong bib - i want no image on this bib 18:36 nengard (and by 'I' i mean the library i'm trying to help) 18:36 jenkins_koha Yippie, build fixed! 18:36 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #946: FIXED in 1 hr 8 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/946/ 18:42 Oak nengard, have you tried seeing that en/manual.xml in vim in Linux at the line 41551? 18:42 Oak can i have a look at that file? 18:42 nengard of course you can - it's in git 18:42 cait Oak:) 18:42 Oak cait :) 18:42 nengard http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=kohadocs.git;a=shortlog;h=refs/heads/manual3.8.x 18:43 nengard and no i did not - i don't use vim 18:44 Oak nor do I as an editor... but I do sometimes use it to spot odd characters for the html newsletters we make... characters that are invisible in other editors 18:45 Oak i mean sometimes in other editors i'll be seeing "and they went to" and in vim, it may be "and{#they went to"... something like that 18:47 rangi The French ones are fixed by using unicode chars not html entities, the English one is most likely a & or something 18:53 Oak who was it trea ? 18:54 trea dominoes. mmmm 18:54 Oak :) 18:55 Oak only I can ask silly questions like that. that's cool. 18:55 nengard rangi - that line " information. ?You could put this anywhere that is visible to the account that will be" ?. has no special characters 18:55 Oak or rather, only I ask silly questions like that. and in that case it's silly. 18:55 nengard around it ? 18:55 nengard " <para>First, you'll need to create a file somewhere on your system with configuration 18:55 nengard information. ?You could put this anywhere that is visible to the account that will be 18:55 nengard running the service. </para>" 18:55 nengard also nothing special - hence my confusion!! 18:56 Oak what are the ? marks for? 18:56 nengard I don't see ? marks ?. 18:56 nengard so i guess that's the problem 18:56 nengard where do you see them? 18:56 nengard I'll remove them 18:56 jcamins nengard: right before "You could" 18:57 nengard they don't even show here in the commit : http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=kohadocs.git;a=commitdiff;h=658fded30430890830b7a91557c9935f9d1b8997 18:57 nengard okay thanks! I'll retype that line 18:57 Oak <para>First, you'll need to create a file somewhere on your system with configuration information. ?You could put this anywhere that is visible to the account that will be running the service. </para> 18:58 Oak and using ’ instead of single quotes is probably more goodish... but may be hard to do / not important. 18:58 Oak did you see the question mark? I added it manually just to show you the place. 18:58 nengard yes i see it - thanks 18:58 nengard patch submitted 18:59 nengard http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=kohadocs.git;a=commitdiff;h=247ad577b345a3ad4a48b5d5338f0686dcfa5820 19:01 rangi back 19:02 Oak hm 12:01 AM. should sleep. 19:03 Oak later 19:18 rangi hehe i just noticed 19:18 rangi http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Docs/ 19:18 rangi jenkins is angry 19:19 rangi http://jenkins.koha-community.org/ <-- normal 19:19 rangi (the watermark image) 19:19 rangi that's kinda cool, i hadnt noticed that before 19:19 jcamins I like it! 19:19 jcamins So does Myshkin. 19:20 cait the one in the back? 19:20 cait it's still smiling jenkins for me 19:20 cait could it be because it's showing german for me? 19:20 rangi on the kohadocs page? 19:20 cait whish it wouldn't do that by the way *sigh* 19:21 cait http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Docs/ 19:21 cait yep smiley 19:21 cait and german 19:24 rangi ill see if i can turn localisation off 19:25 cait ra 19:25 cait g 19:25 cait rangi: maybe others like it 19:25 cait I think maybe it would work if I reconfigured my browser language settings 19:26 rangi yep, if you set english first 19:26 cait it did work - but jenkins is still smiley *pout* 19:26 cait ok, giving up, back to learning management :) 19:28 martian523 hi, it seems like fines are being charged during grace period. is there something that needs to be fixed? 19:32 rangi what version of koha? 19:33 martian523 3.8.6 19:34 rangi hmm, is it charging the fine when you return the item or is the fines cronjob doing it? (i havent had either reported but that doesnt mean it's not happening) 19:36 martian523 hmm...i'm not sure, it seems like it was charged after the items were renewed 19:37 cait what date has he fine, what's the due date, last renewal and checkout dates? :) 19:37 cait do you have added holidays to your calendar? are you sure you are looking at the correct circulation rule for this library/category/itemtype combination? 19:39 martian523 o wait, the fine was charged with cronjob doing the fines 19:39 martian523 but i have set up the rules to give 2 grace period 19:40 martian523 the items were due 11/19 19:40 martian523 and the fines were charged today when patron wants to renew 19:41 cait hm 19:42 cait what type is the fine when you lok at the account of the borrower? 19:42 cait is it maybe R? 19:43 martian523 what do you mean the type of fine? 19:44 cait there is a column with a capital letter on the fine summary or pay fines tab in the patron#s account 19:44 melia http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8939 19:44 huginn 04Bug 8939: major, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Pushed to Stable , Fines Charged During Grace Period 19:44 cait oh 19:44 melia that will be in 3.8.7, so need to upgrade after it comes out on Nov 22 19:44 cait thx melia 19:44 melia no probs 19:45 martian523 so after the upgrade should be ok? 19:45 melia yes, once you're on 3.8.7 (assuming your circ rules and everything are right), then it should be ok 19:45 cait martian523: it should be - but maybe read through the bug first to confirm 19:45 martian523 thanks a bunch! =) 19:50 jcamins Okay, master is now up-to-date. 19:50 rangi swwt 19:50 rangi sweet too 19:51 jcamins cait: could you confirm the version for bug 9020? 19:51 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9020 trivial, P5 - low, ---, katrin.fischer, Signed Off , Translate new permissions for 3.10 19:51 jcamins I think it's wrong. 19:53 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Merge branch 'bug_8954' into 3.12-master <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=be19f11e9787554e65dfbbc6252a85b55158b44e> / Bug 8954: Make languages list in advanced search translatable (revision 1) <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=8718629c5cd7387c39788a6a550c400769a9f8dc> / Merge branch 'bug_8844' into 3.12-master <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a= 19:55 jenkins_koha Starting build #1 for job Koha_Docs_3.8.x 19:56 jenkins_koha Project Koha_Docs_3.8.x build #1: FAILURE in 9 min 7 sec: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Docs_3.8.x/1/ 19:56 rangi http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Docs_3.8.x/1/console 19:57 rangi still broked 19:58 rangi <programlisting> that aint valid xml 19:58 jenkins_koha Starting build #228 for job Koha_3.8.x (previous build: SUCCESS) 19:58 jenkins_koha Starting build #947 for job Koha_master (previous build: FIXED) 20:05 jcamins libsysguy: okay, I installed the Selenium plugin in FF. 20:05 cait jcamins: curious how you like it :) 20:06 jcamins I was expecting something that allowed me to browse usually and generated a test out of that behavior. 20:06 rangi it's fragile 20:06 rangi in my experience 20:06 cait rangi: I agree 20:06 jcamins *browse normally 20:06 rangi the QA team here try (tried) to use it, to little useful 20:06 rangi effect 20:07 rangi and ended up spending more time fixing tests than finding bugs 20:07 jcamins I'm happy to give it a shot. 20:07 cait jcamins: you kind can, but I raninto all kinds of problems just using th enormal recording function 20:07 cait like when something took too long to load it acted weird or some buttons were not recognized 20:07 jcamins Or I would be, if I didn't have to choose what I wanted to do from a dropdown menu. 20:07 cait hm you don't exactly have to do that I think? 20:07 cait just push the big red button? 20:07 jcamins Okay, figured out how to get it to start recording. 20:07 cait :) 20:08 jcamins It turns out when you load it right after installing it you're presented with a tutorial thing, not the actual IDE, or something like that. 20:08 jcamins When I reopened the IDE, the window looked different and there was a record button. 20:10 jcamins Interesting. 20:10 wahanui interesting is sometimes good and sometimes bad 20:13 jcamins Okay, I don't like it. 20:13 jcamins I use a NoScript and RequestPolicy. 20:14 wizzyrea yea I tried it out too - my experience was that you couldn't get really very good tests out of it 20:22 * libsysguy actually had good luck 20:23 libsysguy what the heck are you guys doing lol 20:27 libsysguy If anybody wants a screencast I'd be happy to do one 20:27 rangi if you can get valid tests 20:27 rangi that dont bustinate 20:27 libsysguy or if you want me to shut up about it I can do that too 20:27 rangi jenkins can run them 20:27 rangi so id like that 20:27 rangi there is a selenium plugin for jenkins 20:27 rangi of course it needs a running koha to replay them against 20:27 libsysguy well, its like I said in the email to the devel list 20:27 rangi so would take me work to set up 20:28 libsysguy you need a common koha to run them agains 20:28 rangi we actually need hmm 4 20:28 libsysguy hmm 4? 20:28 wahanui 4 is, like, the attribute in bib1.att for title 20:28 rangi 3.6, 3.8, 3.10, and master 20:28 libsysguy true 20:28 rangi ideally 20:28 rangi but i could add another slave to jenkins 20:28 rangi that ran those 20:28 rangi i just need another server 20:28 rangi having those would be good anyway 20:29 * rangi will bbiab 20:29 rangi gotta go be all agile or something 20:29 libsysguy get to that SCRUM meeting man 20:29 rambutan I have a couple of extra servers I wish I could give out to people. 20:29 libsysguy physical boxes? 20:29 rambutan yea 20:29 * libsysguy ponders this 20:30 libsysguy I think my ISP would freak 20:30 libsysguy plus my upload here is poo 20:30 rambutan decent machines too...I think I have a Sun Fire x4100 still... 20:30 libsysguy I wonder if AWS has deals for FOSS projects 20:31 libsysguy I don't think Koha would run well on the micro platform 20:32 rambutan You know, I got a couple of Sun Fire "somethingsIforget" for like $90. Refurbished, 8GB ram, two dual core Opteron processors, twin 2.5" hard drives... 20:33 libsysguy where from? 20:34 rambutan Don't remember...wait, let me see if they are databased.... 20:34 rambutan in the meantime.... http://home.techsoup.org/Stock/Pages/Category.aspx?category=RCIServers 20:37 rambutan Sun Fire V20z - Andover Consulting Group - 2 Seagate Cheeta 2.5" SCSI hard drives, 8GB memory, 2 NICs, rackmount - $79.99 20:38 libsysguy still, I have a lack of bandwidth to run them here 20:38 libsysguy 10x1 doesn't cut the mustard 20:38 * cait moves from management to maths... *sigh* 20:40 libsysguy I guess we could spin up 4 AWS instances free for a year :p 20:47 rambutan libsysguy: do your previous comments about bw refer to a library? 20:48 libsysguy oh no, I work from home, and so my home connection is 10 Mbps down and 1 Mbps up 20:51 rangi basically if they were on the net, with ssh access, i could turn them into jenkins slaves 20:51 smeagol Hi. I'm having a little problem installing koha on vmware as a virtual machine. All of the files are owned by root, but i am following install.Debian vers 2010/2011 using sudo. Does anyone have an idea as to why this is happening? 20:51 smeagol thanks 20:52 jcamins smeagol: version 2010/2011? 20:53 cait eythian: my printer hates me. I think it's planning something. 20:53 smeagol install.Debian notes copyright 2010/2011 20:54 jcamins What version of Koha are you trying to install? 20:54 jcamins And you haven't told us what the problem you are having is, which should probably have been my first question. 20:55 jcamins first question? 20:55 wahanui "What are you trying to do?" or "What is the goal?" 20:55 jcamins See, even the bot knows to ask that first. :) 20:56 rangi smeagol: i would use the debian packages too 20:56 cait ok, totally offtopic question 20:56 cait I am trying to print a pdf 20:56 jcamins Yes, definitely use packages. 20:57 cait and it doesn'tmatter which setting I choose from the pdf viewer (tried the ubuntu one and adobe) - it always prints wrong, only half of it fits on the page 20:57 cait and I tried various setting, it always looks the same 20:57 cait i don't want to kill more trees. 20:57 cait but i want my homework! 20:58 cait oh and of course... the preview looks right 20:59 smeagol jcamins: I get error message "Forbidden..You don't have permission to access / on this server. Additionally, a 403 Forbidden error was encountered while trying to use an ErrorDocument to handle the request." when trying to run intranet installer 20:59 smeagol I am doing a git install... 21:01 jcamins Sounds like your installation is not readable by the Apache suer. 21:01 jcamins *user 21:01 jcamins If you are doing a git install, you should not be using sudo at all. 21:02 smeagol Yes. and all files are "root" 21:04 jcamins smeagol: right, if you are doing a git install and running everything as your user, *no* files should be owned by root. 21:06 smeagol So i have to log in as koha user and do the install, and not as root, i guess 21:06 jcamins Why are you doing a git install? 21:07 smeagol To contribute some code 21:08 jcamins Okay, just checking you weren't doing a git install because some instructions told you to for production. :) 21:08 jcamins Then, yes, you should be doing the installation as either your user or a koha user. 21:09 smeagol What's the cleanest way to uninstall koha, then?. I don't want to miss any files...thx 21:10 jcamins If you did a git install then there's no uninstallation necessary. Just delete the koha-dev directory. 21:10 jcamins You could even simply change the ownership on kohaclone and koha-dev. 21:11 smeagol I thought about that. 21:11 smeagol The primary dirs are kohaclone and koha-dev, then? 21:12 jcamins Yeah, you cloned the code into kohaclone, and then if you chose dev install, it stuck everything in koha-dev. 21:12 jcamins (by default) 21:12 jcamins If you changed the defaults, of course, you'll have to figure out what you changed them to. 21:13 smeagol No, i kept the defaults. thanks, i will do that. 21:18 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.8.x build #228: SUCCESS in 1 hr 20 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.8.x/228/ 21:18 jenkins_koha cnighswonger: Bug 9085 - Installer will not run with DEBUG set 21:18 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9085 major, P5 - low, ---, cnighswonger, Pushed to Stable , Installer will not run with DEBUG set 21:24 eythian hi 21:27 cait printer problem solved :) 21:28 eythian excellent, happy to help :) 21:29 cait lol 21:29 cait I am sure that the facts of you appearing and the sudden printing success are not related 21:30 eythian the sample would suggest otherwise 21:32 francharb good night all 21:32 cait brother-cups-wrapper-laser << 21:47 tweetbot` [off] twitter: @27point7: "ah, ça y est, on va avoir des codes de langues traduits en français. La la lère bz8954 #kohails #I18N" 21:48 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #947: SUCCESS in 1 hr 49 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/947/ 21:48 jenkins_koha * fridolyn.somers: Bug 8844: UNIMARC_sync_date_created_with_marc_biblio.pl creates a modification log 21:48 jenkins_koha * jcamins: Bug 9070: [SIGNED-OFF] authority searches in auth_finder error out 21:48 jenkins_koha * veron: Bug 9017 - Quote of the day: Table footer not translated 21:48 jenkins_koha * Katrin.Fischer.83: Bug 9024: Adding sample patron attributes to German web installer 21:48 jenkins_koha * Katrin.Fischer.83: Bug 9024: Add missing sample data to existing files 21:48 jenkins_koha * mirko: Bug 9024: Fix typo 21:48 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8844 normal, P5 - low, ---, fridolyn.somers, Pushed to Master , UNIMARC_sync_date_created_with_marc_biblio.pl creates a modification log 21:48 jenkins_koha * mathieu.saby: Bug 8954: Make languages list in advanced search translatable (revision 1) 21:48 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9070 normal, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Pushed to Master , Searching for authority from tag editor for field 650 gives error 21:48 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9017 normal, P5 - low, ---, veron, Pushed to Master , Quote of the day: Table footer not translated 21:48 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9024 normal, P5 - low, ---, katrin.fischer, Pushed to Master , Add additional sample data to German installer 21:48 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8954 normal, P5 - low, ---, fridolyn.somers, Pushed to Master , Languages list in advanced search always in english 23:07 eythian > See verbse embedded documentation. 23:07 eythian there is no verbose embedded documentation :( 23:07 jcamins eythian: I've encountered notes like that. 23:08 eythian jcamins: do you know what the "scan" argument to getRecords does? 23:08 jcamins eythian: yeah, it's to activate scan instead of find. 23:08 eythian what does that mean? 23:11 jcamins eythian: what do you mean? 23:11 eythian what does "activate scan instead of find" mean? 23:12 eythian from looking at the results, it seems that it produced all words that would match what you searched for, and so lets you refine your search a bit, but I don't know if that's what's actually happening. 23:12 jcamins Ohh. 23:13 jcamins I thought you wanted to know what to pass to that argument. 23:13 eythian oh right 23:13 jcamins Scanning allows you to view a particular index starting at a particular point. 23:13 eythian well, my real question was "what does 'scan indexes'" in advanced staff search do, I'd just traced it there. 23:13 jcamins Think "real browse." 23:13 eythian "real browse"? 23:14 jenkins_koha Starting build #229 for job Koha_3.8.x (previous build: SUCCESS) 23:14 jcamins You know, browsing an alphabetical list. 23:14 jcamins Rather than fake browse, which is what Koha does, which does a search and then shows the results under the label "Browse." 23:14 jcamins The scan is just a list of entries in the index. 23:15 eythian the zebra index? 23:15 jcamins With an indication of how many records match. 23:15 jcamins Right. 23:15 eythian right, OK. 23:15 jcamins It doesn't work with ICU. 23:15 eythian I think I get this well enough to explain it to someone else now :) 23:16 jcamins Well- don't use it with ICU. 23:16 eythian I'm not using ICU 23:16 jcamins I know. 23:16 jcamins I was just clarifying that when I say "it doesn't work with ICU" I don't necessarily mean that it doesn't work with ICU. 23:16 eythian ah right 23:16 jcamins BTW, have I mentioned recently how much I hate C4::Search? 23:17 jcamins C4::Search-- 23:17 eythian probably, but there's nothing wrong with saying it again :) 23:52 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.8.x build #229: SUCCESS in 38 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.8.x/229/ 23:52 jenkins_koha magnus: Bug 9058 - Norwegian default for CalendarFirstDayOfWeek 23:52 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9058 normal, P5 - low, ---, magnus, Pushed to Stable , Norwegian default for CalendarFirstDayOfWeek