Time Nick Message 23:34 rangi no worries 23:33 cait rangi++ thx for the looking up website stats 23:25 jcamins lol 23:24 libsysguy k thx bye 23:24 libsysguy libsysguy: STOP TYPING BEFORE YOU DIVULGE SENSITIVE INFORMATION 23:23 libsysguy heh got it 23:23 jcamins libsysguy: wrong window. 23:23 libsysguy oops wrong window 23:23 libsysguy ill email you if you're not still around when I get back 23:23 libsysguy so im going to let it chug 23:23 libsysguy actually this has about 30 mins left 23:22 cait hm 23:19 cait what about finished translations? hm. *checks release notes* 23:19 cait :) 23:17 rangi firefox, chrome, then a long way back to ie, then safari then opera 23:17 rangi US, UK, Spain, India, France 23:16 rangi top 5 23:16 cait cool 23:16 rangi nz is 11th 23:16 cait oh 23:16 rangi (10th in the list) 23:16 rangi 236 visitors from germany 23:15 rangi 12169 visits 23:15 rangi 126 in october 23:15 rangi ppl from 77 countries visited koha-community.org in november so far 23:14 cait ok, I am open for suggestions then :) 23:14 cait hehe 23:13 wahanui month is more than enough time. 23:13 jcamins Or month? 23:13 libsysguy 95% of all statistics are made up on the spot 23:13 jcamins Number of different countries represented on the mailing list in the last week? 23:13 libsysguy true 23:12 libsysguy heh 23:12 jcamins lol 23:12 rangi no one can prove you wrong 23:12 rangi just make some up 23:12 rangi hmm? 23:10 cait I need some nice numbers connected to international koha use 23:10 cait hm not my part 23:07 rangi in 3 days 23:07 rangi saving 252 kittens 23:07 rangi http://scoreboard.koha-community.org/ about 15 differetn nationalities 23:06 rangi the scoreboard? 23:05 cait don't know why, but cats are always good 23:05 cait we need a cat too 23:05 cait oh that is a good one 23:05 rangi cait: how about this morning some nzers got cataloguing help from a new yorker 23:04 rangi glad i figured out what it was 23:04 rangi that almost did my head in 23:02 jcamins *"feature" 23:02 rangi yeah 23:02 rangi could be, but at least i have solved the mysery 23:02 jcamins Kind of like the "no cart e-mails" feature. 23:02 cait some nice facts about international use of koha? 23:02 jcamins Wasn't this one of the "security fixes" that I felt was a huge step back? 23:01 rangi and gained nothing 23:01 cait wanted 23:01 rangi so yeah 3.8.x really needs 7805 too, for it to be useful as it stands it just lost a feature 23:01 cait hmmm 23:01 rangi in march 23:01 * jcamins has a vague recollection of having objected to this, actually. 23:01 rangi yep 23:00 rangi pushed to master pre 3.8.0 23:00 rangi it sure seems to have 23:00 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7310 enhancement, P3, ---, m.de.rooy, RESOLVED FIXED, Improving permissions on lists (virtual shelves) 23:00 jcamins I didn't think bug 7310 went into 3.8? 23:00 rangi without it, 7310 effectively kills open lists 22:59 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7805 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, m.de.rooy, Pushed to Master , Exposing the new list permissions in opac and staff 22:59 jcamins bug 7805 22:59 rangi 3.8.x is missing 7805 22:59 rangi ah ha 22:56 rangi i think it might be busted in 3.8.x just checking more 22:55 jcamins Yup. 22:55 rangi thats in master eh? 22:51 rangi thanks jcamins 22:46 rangi least 22:46 jcamins Well, modulo CSS changes. 22:46 rangi well thats good at leats 22:46 wahanui interesting is, like, sometimes good and sometimes bad 22:46 rangi interesting 22:46 jcamins It looks exactly like that. 22:46 rangi hmm 22:46 jcamins Yes. 22:45 rangi because i dont get those sharing options 22:45 rangi http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/attachment.cgi?id=8519 22:45 rangi does it look like this 22:44 rangi when you edit a list 22:44 rangi anyone who has a sec 22:44 rangi that has pretty much busted a useful piece of functionality afaict 22:43 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 7310] Improving permissions on lists (virtual shelves) <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7310> 22:43 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7310 enhancement, P3, ---, m.de.rooy, ASSIGNED , Improving permissions on lists (virtual shelves) 22:43 rangi hmm bug 7310 22:16 rangi :) 22:16 wizzyrea no, not quite yet - that was just "getting things done" 22:15 wizzyrea tyty 22:15 rangi been to town already? 22:15 rangi wb wizzyrea 22:01 Manderson I am in perl dependency heaven...or hell 22:00 Manderson I had a libyaz.so.4.0.0 22:00 Manderson thanks jcamins 21:59 jcamins libyaz.so.4 => /usr/lib/libyaz.so.4 21:58 Manderson I found it 21:58 Manderson nvm 21:58 bag nice! 21:58 huginn bag: sekjal was last seen in #koha 2 weeks, 3 days, 6 hours, 2 minutes, and 14 seconds ago: <sekjal> this is one of the first times I've listened to music at work… that's definitey something I miss from my home office days 21:58 bag @seen sekjal 21:58 rangi bag: http://www.bodum.com/gb/en-us/shop/detail/K11102-01/?navid=61 i have one of these for the bus 21:57 Manderson can someone run a 'ldd /usr/local/lib/perl5/auto/Net/Z3950/ZOOM/ZOOM.so' and tell me where libyaz.so.4 resides? 21:56 bag I recommend the espresso by the beaker instead 21:56 gmcharlt which of course means, Murphy being Murphy, that I'm probably now due to drop one of my thumb drives in my coffee this week 21:56 bag heh 21:55 gmcharlt rather, I'm *not* relating 21:55 gmcharlt bag: fortunately, no, I'm relating emperical personal observation ;) 21:52 bag gmcharlt: you haven't tried it yet have you? 21:52 gmcharlt coffee, micro usb != goes well together 21:52 bag yeah get a real coffee 21:52 * rangi goes to get coffee 21:52 rangi :) 21:52 rangi wtf just put a micro usb on it you dicks! 21:52 bag right - well pre jobs 21:51 bag software I could agree with 21:51 rangi its heading that way 21:51 bag well the hardware for apple isn't -- 21:51 rangi :) 21:51 rangi while im in the mood ) 21:51 rangi anything_apple-- 21:51 rangi ie-- 21:50 rangi ie7-- 21:50 bag oh surprising - heh 21:50 rangi ie8-- 21:50 rangi windows-- 21:50 huginn bag: Karma for "windows" has been increased 1 time and decreased 20 times for a total karma of -19. 21:50 bag @karma windows 21:50 huginn bag: Karma for "liblime" has been increased 0 times and decreased 13 times for a total karma of -13. 21:50 bag @karma liblime 21:49 rangi gmcharlt++ 21:49 rangi naw, gmcharlt shifted it all 21:49 huginn bag: chrisc has neutral karma. 21:49 bag @karma chrisc 21:49 bag chris++ 21:49 rangi :) 21:49 rangi what! 21:48 huginn rangi: Karma for "chris" has been increased 0 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 0. 21:48 rangi @karma chris 21:48 huginn bag: Karma for "libsysguy" has been increased 29 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 29. 21:48 bag @karma libsysguy 21:48 huginn bag: Karma for "melia" has been increased 5 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 5. 21:48 bag @karma melia 21:48 huginn bag: Karma for "nengard" has been increased 230 times and decreased 1 time for a total karma of 229. 21:48 bag @karma nengard 21:48 huginn bag: Karma for "druthb" has been increased 149 times and decreased 1 time for a total karma of 148. 21:48 bag @karma druthb 21:48 huginn cait: Karma for "cait" has been increased 330 times and decreased 1 time for a total karma of 329. 21:48 cait @karma cait 21:48 huginn rangi: Karma for "bag" has been increased 3 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 3. 21:48 rangi @karma bag 21:47 wahanui bag has karma of 3 21:47 rangi karma for bag 21:47 bag noice 21:47 huginn bag: Karma for "brendan" has been increased 28 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 28. 21:47 bag @karma brendan 21:47 cait rangi: darn. 21:47 bag cait soon? 21:46 rangi :) 21:46 huginn jcamins: Highest karma: "rangi" (681), "oleonard" (581), and "jcamins" (432). Lowest karma: "<!" (-111), "failed" (-94), and "-" (-66). You (jcamins) are ranked 3 out of 2278. 21:46 rangi its not 0-5 21:46 jcamins @karma 21:46 rangi now doesnt count 21:45 * cait tries to hurry things up a bit 21:45 cait did I say soon yet? 21:45 cait soso soon 21:45 cait so soon 21:45 cait quite soon 21:45 cait lol 21:45 rangi soon cait will knock kados out of the 0-5 spot 21:44 rangi stats updated 21:34 bag yeah I thd takes the prize for saying the most per line… That wins - cause we could break that up and destory rangi 21:33 cait and we all know I talk too much :) 21:33 jcamins bag: "close to passing kados" is relative... I have to say 20% more than I already have. 21:33 * cait looks in rangi's direction 21:33 eythian ah right 21:33 cait i think someone taught the irc logs about my double identities 21:32 eythian despite being split as kf and cait :) 21:32 bag and cait has already passed :) 21:32 eythian > Is huginn stupid or just asking too many questions? 52.2% lines contained a question! 21:32 bag oh but no worries wizzyrea is right behind 21:31 bag hmm jcamins is close to passing kados - I wonder what that means ;) 21:31 eythian so probably not in 3.8 yet? 21:31 rangi about a month old 21:31 jcamins eythian: there's a syspref. It was just patched. 21:31 rangi http://stats.workbuffer.org/ircstats/ 21:30 jcamins Replace irclog with ircstats, I think. 21:30 eythian is is possible to change the default sort ordering as a syspref, or is it a template change? 21:30 bag nope not logs stats 21:30 bag irc stats? 21:30 wahanui irc logs are http://irc.koha-community.org/irclog/koha/ 21:30 cait irc logs? 21:30 bag ircstats? 21:30 jcamins bag: IRC stats or signoff stats? 21:29 bag stats website? 21:29 wahanui stats are good 21:29 bag stats? 21:29 jcamins That's less a cataloging thing and more an "I bet I know what catalogers who use AACR1 are going to do if presented with relevance ranking." 21:28 jcamins Right. 21:28 eythian Oh, so the default search ordering? 21:27 jcamins That's how you get away with hiding under your desk. :P 21:27 jcamins Oh, that's so they don't complain the books are out of order. 21:27 eythian what does the default search have to do with anything? 21:26 cait lol 21:26 jcamins Then you'll want to change the default search on the OPAC and staff client to be by title, and hide under a desk until the project is over. :P 21:25 jcamins On records where you move that, you'll also have to change 245ind1 to '1' 21:25 jcamins Unless there's already a 1xx, obviously. 21:25 jcamins for fields with ind2=2 and 700[ind1=3] 21:24 eythian and how they use titles rather than authors for it. 21:24 jcamins What you have to do is move the *first* 700/710/711 field to the corresponding 1xx field, except... 21:24 eythian that'll explain why they're talking about main entry a lot then 21:24 wahanui confused is "Has anyone really been far even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?" 21:24 cait confused 21:23 jcamins cait: for main entry coding. 21:23 cait ? 21:23 jcamins Right, see what they did is stuck with the AACR1 rules. 21:22 cait it's not repeatable 21:22 cait yeah 21:22 eythian well, first of all they wanted all authors in 7xx, which I said was a bad idea. Now they want them all in 1xx, which I'm about to say is also a bad idea. 21:21 cait don#t we all have those? 21:20 eythian got a library that's been using some unusal standards 21:19 eythian actually, it's my fault 21:17 cait wonder what he is up to 21:17 cait exactly m ythought 21:17 jcamins Never a good sign when rangi starts looking up authority-controlled MARC fields. 21:16 huginn rangi: An added entry in which the entry element is a corporate name. (Repeatable) [a,b,c,d,e,f,g,h,k,l,m,n,o,p,r,s,t,u,x,3,4,5,6,8] 21:16 rangi @marc 710 21:16 cait jcamins: uh-oh 21:16 jcamins Uh-oh. 21:16 huginn rangi: A meeting name used as a main entry in a bibliographic record. [a,c,d,e,f,g,j,k,l,n,p,q,t,u,4,6,8] 21:16 rangi @marc 111 21:15 huginn rangi: A corporate name used as a main entry in a bibliographic record. [a,b,c,d,e,f,g,k,l,n,p,t,u,4,6,8] 21:15 rangi @marc 110 21:12 Manderson eythian: hahaha! Thanks 21:12 eythian that'd also work 21:11 jcamins I used apt-file show idzebra-2.0 21:11 jcamins eythian: oh, I didn't know about that one. 21:11 eythian good luck, bon voyage! 21:11 eythian ah right 21:11 Manderson eythian: I am taking a crack at getting koha working on a redhat server. 21:10 * eythian points to the magic of dpkg -L for figuring out where things go 21:10 Manderson I'm thinking I'll try /data0/zebra-2x and linking everything into the standard directories. 21:10 eythian hello 21:10 cait hi eythian :) 21:10 jcamins Yeah. In /usr, mostly /usr/share/idzebra-2.0 (with libraries in /usr/lib and /usr/bin, of course. 21:09 eythian hi 21:08 jcamins Let me check. 21:08 jcamins I think. 21:08 jcamins /usr/* 21:08 jcamins Ummm... 21:07 Manderson What is the default installation directory for zebra on Debian? 21:00 cait ah :) 20:55 oleonard No, Daylight Savings Time 20:55 cait late shift at the library? 20:54 * cait sends oleonard cookies 20:53 * oleonard growls at the self checkout code again 20:40 Manderson I am going to monkey with it for a few... 20:40 jcamins I don't know if anyone has compiled Zebra from source, though. 20:40 Manderson oh 20:39 jcamins It's the fact that Zebra crashes even when the configuration file works that gets in the way of a functioning system. 20:39 jcamins I can walk you through that step. 20:39 jcamins But in terms of paths, that's easy to fix. 20:39 Manderson Hmmm 20:38 jcamins I think the issue is that Red Hat doesn't use /usr... or something like that. 20:37 jcamins That's the same version I used up until last month. 20:37 jcamins Then you're fine. 20:37 Manderson I've got 5.10.1 20:37 jcamins Oh, one additional point: you need Perl 5.10+ 20:37 Manderson But if I install zebra from source, I should be able to configure it for where koha is expecting it to be? 20:36 jcamins But Zebra still won't work after doing that, and I have no idea why. 20:36 jcamins You can just adjust the paths to match the strange places Red Hat sticks things. 20:36 jcamins I can tell you how to solve the first Zebra issue you'll encounter: the Zebra binary files' paths are hardcoded into a bunch of files in /etc/koha/zebradb. 20:35 jcamins The actual Koha code works fine, once you get all the dependencies installed (mostly via CPAN). 20:34 Manderson Oooh 20:34 jcamins Zebra, mostly. 20:34 jcamins Red Hat + Zebra = [head exploding smiley] 20:34 Manderson ? 20:34 Manderson Wonder what the deal is 20:34 jcamins Yeah. 20:34 Manderson :P 20:33 Manderson that's not a positive thing 20:33 Manderson :( 20:33 jcamins I know of lots of people who have failed to get Koha working on Redhat, though. 20:33 jcamins Manderson: I don't know of any documentation on successful Redhat installs. 20:32 Manderson Hi everyone - I am trying out Koha on a Redhat installation. Is there any documentation on the differences I might find by using redhat vs debian? 20:09 ibeardslee damn .. can't find a copy of that Mockers song for jcamins .. Murder on Manners St 20:08 oleonard You can't all it one season if you have to wait until a new actual season to see the rest of it :P 20:07 wizzyrea then 5 or 6 more in the spring 20:07 wizzyrea 5 episodes, then xmas special 20:07 wizzyrea well they split them 20:07 jcamins There are only four episodes per season of Dr. Who? 20:07 wizzyrea gh yea 20:06 oleonard On the other hand, the Dr. Who method of showing four episodes then season's over isn't so great either. 20:06 * magnuse can't find his little Horowhenua pin 20:06 oleonard Yeah, that's one of the disadvantages to doing it all in one go. 20:05 wizzyrea so the seasons all blend together 20:05 wizzyrea but I watched them as one two week long movie, more or less 20:05 wizzyrea the last one was ok, now that I'm thinking about it 20:05 wizzyrea there was a season, but it wasn't the last, of bsg that was just not good 20:04 jcamins Of course, the first time I saw an episode of Stargate Atlantis I thought it looked awful but it turned out to be pretty good. 20:04 wizzyrea well actually, now thinking about it 20:04 oleonard I loved BSG though. 20:04 oleonard I tried a few episodes of Lost and couldn't get into it. 20:04 wizzyrea and I thought bsg was ok until the last season 20:04 wizzyrea I liked lost until about season 3. 20:03 jcamins I never saw any. 20:03 oleonard I didn't like Lost. 20:02 jcamins I didn't like Battlestar Galactica. 20:02 wizzyrea thanks guys. 20:02 wizzyrea now i want to watch battlestar galactica. 20:01 oleonard Anti-solidarity? wahanui really wants to warn us. 20:01 jcamins wizzyrea: 'bot solidarity. :P 20:01 chris_n lol 20:01 wizzyrea it really really likes to tell people t hat I'm a cylon. 20:00 chris_n hi rangi 20:00 wizzyrea hi there! 20:00 wizzyrea it's a chris_n sighting! 20:00 wahanui wizzyrea is a Cylon, and they all have plans. 20:00 chris_n heya wizzyrea 20:00 chris_n almost time to go home :-P 20:00 * chris_n stuffs the last gremlin back into the box 20:00 jcamins So polite! 20:00 jcamins You have a Manners Street in Wellington? 19:59 rangi ah just a nice monitor 19:58 wizzyrea or netflix, for that matter. 19:58 wizzyrea so we don't need cable tv or sattellite 19:58 wizzyrea and a zillion movies 19:58 rangi its on manners street 19:58 wizzyrea well, we have a western digital media center 19:58 rangi check dick smiths too 19:58 rangi ? 19:58 rangi heh, gave in 19:58 wizzyrea and a trip to jb hifi for a tv, I think. 19:57 wizzyrea today - a visit to the central library to get certified copies of passports 19:57 rangi wizzyrea: whats on the cards for today, its pretty meh weather 19:45 jcamins You can delegate. 19:45 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8215 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle, In Discussion , Add Course Reserves 19:45 jcamins I am assigning bug 8215 to you for QA once the follow-ups have been signed off on. 19:45 wizzyrea well rangi keeps going on about how wet and cold it was - but I didn't think it was much worse than a yucky kansas october 19:45 cait why are you asking? 19:45 rangi hehe 19:45 cait the katrin... one 19:45 bag yeah rangi is famous for dragging people through rain after long flights 19:44 jcamins cait: which e-mail address do you use in Bugzilla? 19:44 oleonard :) 19:44 oleonard Sweet. 19:43 wizzyrea so he conks out at the drop of a hat 19:43 oleonard rangi: I'm pretty sure that's a perk 19:43 wizzyrea i mean, more or less - he's not used to all the walking 19:43 wizzyrea hehe no spud is actually doing well 19:42 cait hehe 19:42 rangi and some crazy guy dragging him through rain, then museums 19:41 oleonard wizzyrea: I was feeling like complaining about Daylight Savings Time messing with my kids' sleep schedules and then I remembered yours is dealing with the mother of all time changes. 19:40 rangi hmm i think most of Elaine's list issues are underway being fixed? 19:33 wizzyrea hi cait :) 19:30 cait hi rangi, bag and wahanui too :) 19:30 cait hi wizzyrea 19:29 wizzyrea hello :) 19:29 wahanui wizzyrea is a Cylon, and they all have plans. 19:29 bag heya wizzyrea 19:28 wizzyrea what we saw of them, yes - quite impressive 19:24 rangi enjoy the fireworks? 19:24 wahanui wizzyrea is, like, a Cylon, and they all have plans 19:24 rangi hey wizzyrea 19:23 mac123 :) 19:23 * jcamins suspects that "issues" may be a code word for "we don't remember anymore." That's what it usually is. 19:23 rangi good luck 19:23 rangi no worries 19:23 mac123 thank you so much 19:22 mac123 and probably that's what i'll have to do 19:22 jcamins What you should do is set up a test server tracking 3.10.x and find out if the "issues" with hourly loans have been resolved. 19:22 mac123 i totally understand 19:22 rangi or you could upgrade to the 3.10.x branch (on a test server first of course) 19:22 rangi trying to apply patches 19:22 rangi so you could spend a bunch of time making your life hard 19:21 rangi so all the patches you are trying to apply, have already been applied and will be in the 3.10.0 release 19:21 rangi right 19:20 mac123 to a stable version 19:20 rangi changing to what? yeah 19:20 jcamins You'd have to explain what the issue is. 19:19 mac123 LDAP and hourly loans 19:19 rangi hmm 19:19 mac123 from what i understand, this is one of the issues why we are not changing yet 19:19 jcamins What about them? 19:19 mac123 what about the hourly loans? 19:19 jcamins Finding that number. 19:19 rangi hmm? 19:19 rangi adn now 19:19 jcamins rangi: wow, that was really fast. 19:19 rangi between 013 19:18 rangi there are over 200 patches 19:18 rangi yeah, seriously 19:18 jcamins Tell your library to upgrade. 19:18 mac123 it has something to do with the hourly loans 19:18 jcamins There are a *ton* of patches for that bug. 19:18 mac123 apparently this is the version that's being using by my library 19:17 jcamins (or they're out of order) 19:17 rangi you could just checkout the 3.10.x and be at least a semi stable point .. why are you looked at a really old version? 19:17 jcamins That error message means that you applied the first patch incorrectly as well. 19:17 rangi but if you are running your koha from git 19:17 rangi yes, if it applies cleanly that will work if not you have to git am -iu3 it 19:16 mac123 is that correct? 19:16 mac123 git bz apply.... 19:16 rangi you installed from git right? from the master branch? 19:15 rangi hmm thats pretty old 19:15 mac123 3.09.00.013 19:15 rangi look at your about page it will tell you 19:14 rangi 3.09.x ? whats the x bit? 19:14 mac123 and we have to use it for a while 19:14 mac123 3.09 19:14 mac123 we are using an unstable version 19:14 jcamins If you are not using a current version of Koha, you need to upgrade, not apply patches. 19:14 mac123 i know 19:14 mac123 that's where our big problem is 19:14 rangi also, how are you trying to apply it? 19:13 jcamins If you are using a current version of Koha, the patches for bug 5339 are already applied. 19:13 jcamins Why are you trying to apply the patch for bug 5339? 19:12 mac123 error: koha-tmpl/intranet-tmpl/prog/en/modules/acqui/parcel.tt: patch does not apply Patch failed at 0001 Bug 5339: ergonomic changes When you have resolved this problem run "git am --resolved". If you would prefer to skip this patch, instead run "git am --skip". To restore the original branch and stop patching run "git am --abort". Patch left in /tmp/Bug-533 19:11 mac123 Bug 5339: ergonomic changes Apply? [yn] y Applying: Bug 5339: ergonomic changes error: acqui/invoice.pl: does not exist in index error: koha-tmpl/intranet-tmpl/prog/en/modules/acqui/invoice.tt: does not exist in index error: patch failed: koha-tmpl/intranet-tmpl/prog/en/modules/acqui/parcel.tt:192 error: koha-tmpl/intranet-tmpl/prog/en/modules/acqui/parcel. 19:11 mac123 and got this 19:11 mac123 tried to apply patch 5339 19:11 mac123 i need some help 19:11 wahanui salut, mac123 19:11 mac123 hello 19:07 * rangi reads the rm newsletter 19:02 rangi back 18:52 rangi My stop brb 18:52 rangi No even 18:52 rangi Not worries 18:46 martian523 thanks for the help! 18:46 rangi Hehe 18:46 bag err.. should I say rangi who drags peeps around in the rain rangi 18:46 bag morning rangi 18:45 bag then you should be all fine (no pun intended) 18:45 martian523 but in the mean time we'll just manually change the due dates 18:45 rangi Quite likely 18:45 martian523 don't really use hourly loans 18:44 bag I've heard there is still a problem with hourly-loans and 3.8.6 18:44 bag unless you use hourly-loans as far as I know 18:41 martian523 thanks 18:41 rangi I'd try 3.8.6 on there I know a bunch of calendar bugs were fixed 18:40 martian523 yes, we have a test server 18:39 rangi So is worth the upgrade anyway 18:39 rangi It has security fixes too 18:39 rangi There was some bugs around holidays do you have a test server you can try 3.8.6 on? 18:38 martian523 3.8.3 18:38 rangi What version Martian523? 18:36 magnuse kia ora rangi 18:33 martian523 is there someone who can answer my question? 18:28 wahanui rumour has it morning is a state of mind. or whenever the cat wants breakfast 18:28 jcamins Morning. 18:28 martian523 Morning 18:28 wahanui rumour has it Morning is a state of mind. or whenever the cat wants breakfast 18:28 rangi Morning 18:06 martian523 is there something else i'm missing? 18:06 martian523 i've chosen "the calendar to skip all days the library is closed" in system preferences 18:05 martian523 however, when users are borrowing books, the due dates are not skipping these two days 18:05 martian523 i've set up let's say thanksgiving holidays in november 18:04 martian523 hi, i have a question about calendar and holidays 18:00 * oleonard should have stayed in bed today 17:59 oleonard And I signed off on it :P 17:59 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7189 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle.m.hall, Signed Off , preference to control if returning lost items gives refund 17:59 oleonard Ah yes, Bug 7189 17:59 jcamins Signed off, maybe? 17:59 jcamins oleonard: there's a bug for that, I think. 17:58 oleonard You can't tell Koha *not* to issue a refund when a lost item is checked in can you? 17:54 gaetan_B bye 17:48 chris_n too bad wahanui can't search the sql reports titles for keywords 17:47 jcamins _Now_ there's a report. 17:46 jcamins Yay! 17:46 chris_n jcamins: posted: http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/SQL_Reports_Library#Basic_Item_Information_By_Call_Number_Range 17:43 jcamins But if you want separate receipt printers, it's not so helpful. 17:43 jcamins The idea makes sense: hook up one printer to one computer, and new circulation workstations don't require printer configuration. 17:39 gerundio no one seemed to be able to explain to me the major advantage of server-side printing 17:39 gerundio yeah, I was introduced to it, on a library context, just today 17:29 jcamins Or probably even a useful one. 17:29 jcamins Though I will note that in none of the libraries I worked in would that have been a necessary feature. 17:28 jcamins It would depend on the individual library. 17:27 gerundio is server-side printing a big thing among Koha's competitors? 17:26 gerundio I was asking for printers indeed 17:26 gerundio you got me right the 1st time 17:23 jcamins Tools -> Label creator 17:22 jcamins Sorry. 17:22 jcamins You're asking about labels. 17:22 jcamins You're not asking about printing. 17:22 jcamins I understand. 17:22 jcamins Oh, wait! 17:22 jcamins Exactly. 17:22 gerundio so I don't think it has much use 17:22 gerundio nothing regarding printer's IPs on these records 17:22 jcamins The table exists. It's just that Koha doesn't print things using it. 17:21 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8034 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, srdjan, Signed Off , Enable server print queue selection 17:21 jcamins Bug 8034 17:21 gerundio he left me with a `printers_profile` MySQL dump though 17:20 gerundio I can't confirm it, he's out in vacation until late this month 17:20 jcamins I thought it wasn't finished yet. 17:20 jcamins Okay, let me check. 17:20 jcamins And it worked? 17:20 gerundio I got the wrong idea then, my colleague said he had configured that in his Koha setup 17:20 jcamins The actual printing code hasn't made it in yet. 17:19 jcamins oleonard: someone is. 17:19 oleonard I thought someone was working to bring that back? 17:19 gerundio ok 17:19 jcamins You just have to configure the local printer. :( 17:19 jcamins At the moment server-side printing is not supported. 17:18 gerundio where in Koha's intranet UI can I set up printers? 17:03 chris_n :) 17:03 chris_n and you know the rest of the story 17:03 * chris_n accidentally spilled his glass of water on his desk-gremlin this morning 17:03 * chris_n really should pay more attention 17:02 chris_n doh 17:02 jcamins chris_n: I think so. 17:01 chris_n jcamins: is BETWEEN inclusive? 16:57 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7243 enhancement, P3, ---, srdjan, Passed QA , Do not take rentals as fines 16:57 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7067 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle.m.hall, Passed QA , allow patron self registration via the opac 16:57 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8215 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Passed QA , Add Course Reserves 16:57 jcamins Bug 8215. Bug 7067. Bug 7243. 16:54 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8842 blocker, P5 - low, ---, paul.poulain, Pushed to Master , Plack and tools/holidays.pl 16:54 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8949 normal, P5 - low, ---, paul.poulain, Pushed to Master , Trying to view help on a page without any help results in a Perl error 16:54 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8490 blocker, P5 - low, ---, paul.poulain, Pushed to Master , Error when adding label layout under plack 16:54 jenkins_koha * Paul Poulain: Bug 8842 fix Plack scoping for holidays 16:54 jenkins_koha * Paul Poulain: Bug 8949: Trying to view help on a page without any help results in a nasty error 16:54 jenkins_koha * Paul Poulain: Bug 8490: fix Plack error when creating label layout 16:54 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.10.x build #8: SUCCESS in 42 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.10.x/8/ 16:53 chris_n I couldn't find it either, but that works; I'll post it shortly 16:50 jcamins chris_n: I can't find it. Something like: SELECT biblio.title FROM item LEFT JOIN biblio ON item.biblionumber=biblio.biblionumber WHERE item.itemcallnumber BETWEEN <<starting call number>> AND <<ending call number>>? 16:49 Shane-S just rain wednesday-thursday, I won't if anti-depressant drug stocks and doctor related visits are up 16:47 * jcamins presumes in the north east. 16:46 jcamins Shane-S: no idea. 16:46 Shane-S wait...accuweather.com...has a MAP! With green dots...and they aren't large or many...where is this nor'easter forming? 16:46 jcamins Of course, the toc is entirely useless at this point. 16:45 wahanui sql reports library is probably at http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/SQL_Reports_Library 16:45 jcamins sql reports library? 16:45 jcamins chris_n: we have one on the wiki. 16:44 chris_n can anyone point me toward a report that returns a subset of items based on a given domain of itemcallnumber? 16:44 Shane-S yeah, 4 hours max 16:44 jcamins Which will be soon. 16:44 Shane-S I can lend it to you, I can use my waverunner until it runs out of fuel 16:44 jcamins We do not have a kayak. 16:44 Shane-S HAHA where I work is 1/4 mile off the Delaware River, if we flood, my servers can became aquatic, I am moving :) 16:42 jcamins That must be a big kayak! 16:42 jcamins You can fit all your servers in a kayak? 16:41 Shane-S Nah, I have a Kayak and I live 60 feet above sea level, if I get flooded, Philly is gone, which is where my insurance company is :) 16:39 jcamins Well, if you didn't have insurance already, you might want to get some. :P 16:38 Shane-S the map for my zip code is clear...but I missed it, because the All State Ad is larger then the map :) 16:37 Shane-S and the graphic on the main page showing be the low pressure with its triangled line doesn't help me like a cloud cover and temp./winds does :P 16:37 jcamins Shane-S: oh, yeah, I couldn't find a map on the weather sites either. 16:36 Shane-S jcamins: lol, no no I mean I just want a darn map so I can see this Nor'Easter (northeaster sound like a holiday IMO) since I live in NJ 16:36 * jcamins appreciated the respite from election news. 16:35 jcamins Shane-S: you mean there's any news that isn't weather-related? 16:35 Shane-S I love how weather.com has more "news" in my face then weather...isn't your site called "The Weather Channel"? If I want news I can tune into it! 16:33 jcamins I figured it was because New Englanders were sailors, and when setting a course in a sailing ship, one goes "nor-east" and not "north east." 16:31 jcamins You know, I've wondered about that. 16:30 oleonard https://twitter.com/pourmecoffee/status/265468464603467776 16:28 jcamins It's not expected to be nearly as destructive as Sandy, but still. 16:28 jcamins But, yes. 16:28 jcamins That's kind of an interesting thing to have for "another." 16:27 wahanui cait: I forgot another 16:27 cait forget another 16:27 cait oh 16:27 wahanui another is probably http://macromedia.bsz-bw.de 16:27 cait another? 16:27 jcamins Really bad storm. 16:27 cait Nor'easter? 16:25 jcamins No one! 16:23 jcamins And no one wants a displeased RM! 16:22 jcamins For the record, if the Nor'easter this week is bad, I will be _very_ displeased. 16:22 gerundio weird thing though it didn't show up in any log 16:21 gerundio assumed it was the 1st thing I did ... but I missed it :| 16:21 jcamins Ah-ha! 16:21 gerundio mod_ssl wasn't enabled as I thought 16:21 gerundio jcamins, just solved it 16:20 jcamins Right. Paste your koha-httpd.conf using that. :) 16:19 wahanui paste is found at http://paste.koha-community.org 16:19 oleonard paste? 16:19 jcamins Could you please paste your koha-httpd.conf? 16:19 jcamins However, apparently that wasn't the problem. 16:19 tweetbot` [off] twitter: @kohails: "#kohails Koha Release Manager newsletter #11 and #12 2012-10 http://t.co/V2MplofZ" 16:18 jcamins Something to do with setuid and certificates. 16:18 jcamins It's a bug in Apache's SSL support. 16:18 jcamins No, I'm thinking of restart. 16:17 gerundio now I tried the stop + start combo and the result is the same 16:17 gerundio I used restart at 1st 16:17 gerundio or are you thinking of reload? 16:17 gerundio hmm, jcamins restart != stop + start? 16:14 jcamins The second will not. 16:14 jcamins The first will work. 16:14 jcamins But when you say "restarted," did you do `sudo apache2ctl stop && sudo apache2ctl start` or `sudo apache2ctl restart` 16:14 gerundio surely this must be a case of PEBKAC 16:13 gerundio the 80 and 8080 vhosts have basically just DocumentRoot, ServerName and redirect settings 16:12 gerundio and the intranet related setting to the 8443 vhost 16:12 gerundio basically I moved all the opac related settings to the 443 vhost 16:12 jenkins_koha Starting build #8 for job Koha_3.10.x (previous build: SUCCESS) 16:11 gerundio yeap, restarted apache at every change I've made 16:11 gerundio the strangest thing is I'm not getting anything in the apache error logs 16:11 jcamins Did you *stop* Apache and then start it again? 16:11 gerundio yeap 16:09 jcamins Did you enable SSL and change the VirtualHost to listen on 443? 16:09 gerundio but now I just get 404 on any request 16:09 gerundio the redirect works fine 16:07 jcamins So you just need configuration files. 16:07 jcamins PazPar2 supports SRU. 16:07 alaquerre jcamins: thanks for the inputs. 16:07 gerundio and redirected all the requests from port 80 to 443 and 8080 to 8443 16:07 alaquerre I'll keep that in mind. For my part, I still think this is a very interesting new features. ( SirsiDynix have it :-) ) and it is currently "mandatory feature" required by state university. 16:06 cait Lentzs: only a hint :) because it seems possible to reconfigure item information in the configuration screens, ubt it will kill the indexing and search 16:06 gerundio jcamins, I've created a self signed certificate for the time being 16:06 cait match 16:06 cait Lentzs: try not to reconfigure Koha - make your data math 16:06 reiveune bye 16:06 jcamins gerundio: what problem are you running into? 16:05 gerundio hi, can someone help with Koha over SSL/HTTPS? 16:05 jcamins That may still be non-trivial, but I don't know for sure. 16:05 jcamins Yes. 16:05 jcamins I think doing that would require A) the search rewrite to be completed (http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/C_&_P_Search_Rewrite_RFC ), B) an OAI harvester to be implemented in a way that worked well with Koha [there may be a harvester that could already be used], and C) a search plugin for the harvested data would have to be written. 16:04 alaquerre ok - so my best approach is to try to make it work using SRU. 16:03 Shane-S Lentzs: sorry I was away, I forget the exact record numbers needed, it isn't a 100% move, I went through and wrote down which fields I wanted/needed and matched them to Koha using the MARC screen under cataloging 16:03 jcamins Very big. 16:03 jcamins Because there's no existing support for that sort of harvested data in Koha. 16:03 alaquerre you see that a BIG dev ? 16:03 alaquerre jcamins: why ? 16:02 jcamins It would not, however, be trivial. 16:02 jcamins alaquerre: I'm sure it would be. 16:02 alaquerre Would it be interresting to do one ? 16:01 cait yep 16:01 jcamins Koha does not have an OAI harvester built in. 16:01 jcamins Right. If you want to do that, there is no support at all. 16:01 cait I think you might have to harvest them then 16:01 alaquerre Most of our need are only in OAI. Not sure if they support SRU 16:00 alaquerre you maybe right :-).. So that would mean - harverst all data and index them into Koha. 16:00 jcamins It's a related standard, yes. 16:00 jcamins As an aside, my understanding is that OAI is a harvesting protocol not a metasearch protocol. 15:59 alaquerre Is SRU a "standard" just like OAI. ( sorry for my ignorance) 15:58 jcamins If PazPar2 is Z39.50-only, support for federated search using SRU. 15:58 jcamins Well- a configuration file. 15:58 jcamins If PazPar2 supports SRU, nothing. 15:58 alaquerre if that's the case, what is missing to do a federated search ? 15:58 alaquerre ok - I would like to retreive information from other server and display the information into Koha. Example : search "history" and get result from Britanica inside all the results. 15:57 jcamins You might be able to us PazPar2, but I don't know how. 15:56 cait alaquerre: afaik koha is an oai server - so it can be used to get records, but can't harvest itself 15:56 cait alaquerre: I am not sure what you want to do is possible with koha 15:54 alaquerre i'll ask again sorry :-) Anyone know how to retreive OAI informations into OPAC so this is transparent for the user ? 15:53 Lentzs So all I have to do I move the 800 series to 900 series. It looks like the 800s have the copy info in them Ex. barcode info. If I move it over to the 900s will it keep the copy info? 15:48 jcamins Unfortunately, my solution killed my terminal. 15:48 jcamins Got it. 15:46 jcamins How do you pipe a multi-line string in bash? 15:35 Lentzs That did it. Must have been data that I loaded over the weekend. 15:32 jcamins The command is koha-rebuild-zebra --full lib 15:32 Shane-S jcamins: normally tells me :P 15:32 jcamins Shane-S: it runs every ten minutes by default. 15:32 Shane-S so I think Zebra still has it loaded, there is a command to clear it, I don't know it sadly 15:31 Shane-S Lentzs: if I am not mistaken, zebra indexing takes 10 minutes be default 15:31 Lentzs Of do I need to just reload the system. Ex reinstall OS. 15:31 Lentzs I have one qustion. Why am I able to search OPAC and it is finding data even though I reset the system. Is there a master reset command to dump and restart everything? 15:27 Shane-S so I had my desktop with the MARC21 file, MarcEdit, and a Koha VM, and I just kept messing with and restoring Koha back to my initial setup 15:27 Lentzs That it want I am working on now. 15:27 Shane-S Lentzs: it helped me to setup a VM with it, and keep practicing until I got it right 15:26 Shane-S Lentzs: I would try on a demo system to import so you can see what didn't transfer 15:26 Shane-S Lentzs: yes it batch edits 15:25 Lentzs I have about 2000 Records to be edited. Will this do in batch? 15:24 alaquerre Hi all, Question for you. I know how to setup OAI server and I know it work. But I would like to understand how to « retreive » information from other server. The goal is to search a word « History » in OPAC and see the result from different OAI server . 15:24 Shane-S I also had to modify some fields, and I manually added library code, item type, and a couple more 15:24 Shane-S Lentzs: I was able to export but had to change many of the 800 series to be 900 series 15:24 cait ah, if it's valid marc21 you can try importing it into koha using the staged marc tools next 15:23 Lentzs I have been able to pull the MARC21. 15:23 cait like Shane-S said :) 15:23 cait you will have to create marc records if follet can't export them 15:23 Lentzs thanks. 15:23 Shane-S Lentzs: you will need to use http://people.oregonstate.edu/~reeset/marcedit/html/index.php 15:22 Lentzs Trying to help them save money. 15:21 Lentzs The school I am working with that old system. 15:21 Shane-S you are going to need a marc editor...*goes to find that link* 15:21 Shane-S Oh I just did that this summer from CIRC/CAT 15:20 Lentzs Now I am trying to find an easy way to migrate from a Follett System. 15:20 * Shane-S knows PERL not building is "my" fault, but made it so Evergreen won me over because I got it installed :P 15:19 * Shane-S tried evergreen about 3 years ago before Koha had packages...adn the building perl kept failing...now I am in love with Koha 15:19 Lentzs I was in hear chatting and was told it was more active during the week. 15:16 Lentzs Over the weekend I was working on setting up an Koha server. It was easier then Evergreen. 15:15 cait hi Lentzs 15:15 Lentzs hello 15:11 jcamins Figured it out, never mind. 15:07 jcamins Anyone here who is good with awk? 15:06 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8842 blocker, P5 - low, ---, paul.poulain, Pushed to Master , Plack and tools/holidays.pl 15:06 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8949 normal, P5 - low, ---, paul.poulain, Pushed to Master , Trying to view help on a page without any help results in a Perl error 15:06 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8490 blocker, P5 - low, ---, paul.poulain, Pushed to Master , Error when adding label layout under plack 15:06 jenkins_koha * Paul Poulain: Bug 8842 fix Plack scoping for holidays 15:06 jenkins_koha * Paul Poulain: Bug 8949: Trying to view help on a page without any help results in a nasty error 15:06 jenkins_koha * Paul Poulain: Bug 8490: fix Plack error when creating label layout 15:06 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #931: SUCCESS in 1 hr 8 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/931/ 14:46 cait thx 14:44 cait eew 14:43 jcamins cait: http://www.queenslibrary.org/ - take a look at the top of the page. 14:42 cait what is the marquee tag? 14:38 oleonard Wow I looked all over for the link to the catalog before I saw the form inside that big banner. 14:37 jcamins And I hate it. 14:37 oleonard Their site looks a lot less polished than it used to be 14:37 jcamins Looks like the marquee tag, though. 14:37 jcamins Okay, I guess it's javascript. 14:36 jcamins Either that or they used javascript to emulate it. 14:35 oleonard Wow really, marquee tag? 14:35 jcamins Also, why has no one told the Queens Library that the marquee tag is deprecated and annoying? 14:35 jcamins I don't think I like Aquabrowser. 14:26 tweetbot` [off] twitter: @paul_poulain: "#kohails Release Manager newsletter published: http://t.co/2ihHfKie" 14:09 jcamins Ugh... speaking of merge conflicts... 14:01 jcamins The idea of 3.12-integration is so that I know what problems I'm facing in terms of merge conflicts, etc. 14:01 jcamins Well, I call the master branch "3.12-master." 14:00 paul_p jcamins that's why I see "3.12-master" merges on git sometimes ? 14:00 jcamins I have a local integration branch for pushing 3.12 patches to so I can see what's going on. 13:59 cait new features mean people get distracted and we will end upneeding 2 different patches - so more confusion 13:59 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Merge branch 'bug_8842' into 3.12-master <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=62ce0ba1b004b6ea56dc19fa343a5943e7593eb4> / Bug 8842 fix Plack scoping for holidays <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=4e5922b38798c565e80e421175247aea0d92da1c> / Merge branch 'bug_8949' into 3.12-master <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=f47ad199a2c65849d0ed3b 13:59 cait jcamins: I think I like people staying focused on bug fixes for now 13:58 jenkins_koha Starting build #931 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS) 13:57 paul_p jcamins right. That's not a big problem for me. OTOH, having patches being piled could result in conflicts when you try to push all of them. We're 2 weeks from release, I think you can start pushing 3.12 13:56 jcamins paul_p: if I push anything that is 3.12-only, you'll have to switch to cherry-picking instead of merging. 13:55 paul_p jcamins = but you can push it though. I'll just ignore it for 3.10 . Don't hesitate to push some patches not for 3.10. [Or at least starting to] 13:54 jcamins Okay. 13:54 paul_p jcamins I think it can wait for 3.10.1 (not a critical fix, the problem existed for years, it's an important warning that should avoid some RFTM on mailing lists ;-) ) 13:54 jcamins On the other hand, it is *only* new strings, and if a librarian can't understand the first message they see, they might be inclined to ask on the mailing list. 13:53 jcamins It does include string changes. 13:53 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9008 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Passed QA , Warn if librarian logged-in with mysql/admin account 13:53 jcamins paul_p: bug 9008 - do you plan on pushing it to 3.10? 13:49 Shane-S after I remember my login ROFL 13:49 Shane-S okay thanks, I will work on getting that data :) 13:48 jcamins Yes. 13:47 Shane-S if I use run-backups that will do the -dump command though right? 13:47 jcamins I'd rerun it so that you get any changes that were made this morning. 13:46 Shane-S as its part of backups 13:46 Shane-S oh, so then I can skip koha-dump? 13:45 jcamins (it's run by koha-run-backups every night) 13:45 jcamins koha-dump produces a complete backup of the system. 13:45 jcamins koha-run-backups is to be run nightly. 13:45 jcamins Yes. 13:45 Shane-S what is the easiest way to backup koha, I used the package installs, and I see there is koha-run-backups and koha-dump, would that be enough and transferring to a remote system/drive? 13:40 cait we got cheap tickets the first time and I liked it ok, the second time I accompanied a friend who was a great fan 13:40 cait which is very close 13:39 cait it was in stuttgart for a long time 13:39 cait yes 13:39 cait ah 13:39 jcamins So I was wondering if you'd seen it. :) 13:39 jcamins But it was supposed to be very good and exceedingly popular in Germany and Hungary. 13:38 jcamins cait: Dance of the Vampires in English was _spectacularly bad. 13:35 cait jcamins: what was the question about? :) 13:35 cait oh good 13:32 jcamins oleonard: Subway service isn't fully restored, but it's close. 13:31 oleonard How's the infrastructure today jcamins? 13:31 jcamins Good morning, #koha. 13:30 oleonard Hi #koha 13:00 wahanui hey, lms 13:00 lms hello 12:45 tcohen morning #koha 10:42 lds magnuse: please give me your dns server (/etc/resolv.conf) 10:40 sophie_m magnuse: it's ok for me. We have a look 10:39 magnuse my browser just says "connecting..." 10:39 magnuse sophie_m: i can't get in touch with it 10:36 sophie_m magnuse: why do you ask ? 10:36 sophie_m not yet, but it is on its way. Why ? 10:36 lds paul_p: c'est quoi qui lui fait dire ça 10:35 paul_p sophie_m <magnuse> paul_p or someone else from biblibre: did http://catalogue.iepgrenoble.biblibre.com/ move to a new address? 10:35 magnuse paul_p or someone else from biblibre: did http://catalogue.iepgrenoble.biblibre.com/ move to a new address? 09:41 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8904 blocker, P5 - low, ---, paul.poulain, Pushed to Master , Plack variable scoping in tools/overduerules 09:41 jenkins_koha Paul Poulain: Bug 8904: fix Plack scoping for overduerules.pl 09:41 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.10.x build #7: SUCCESS in 44 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.10.x/7/ 09:17 rangi yep can do that 09:17 paul_p rangi I think lds is saying 10PM for us and 10AM for you 09:16 rangi 10am nz time? 09:15 lds rangi : dns switch at 10 h is ok for you ? 09:02 marcelr :) 09:01 cait hi marcelr :) 09:00 marcelr hi koha 08:59 cait only today I have to prepare my presentation 08:59 cait nope, but my family kept me away from the internets 08:59 paul_p cait = yes, I understood that. are you a bot chatting here then ? 08:58 cait paul_p: I will be back properly next week 08:57 jenkins_koha Starting build #7 for job Koha_3.10.x (previous build: SUCCESS) 08:55 paul_p hi cait :D 08:55 cait paul_p: you interpreted the German mail correctly ;) 08:49 rangi before they bounce mail 08:49 rangi how many retries they do 08:49 rangi but it depends entirely on how peoples mail servers are configured 08:48 rangi most of it will 08:48 rangi depends 08:48 paul_p rangi = lds will switch off the previous mail server before starting so any pending mail will be delivered with some delay, isn't it ? 08:48 rangi ttl is 1 hour, so if its changed at 9am, it wont be propogated fully until at least 10am 08:47 cjh :( 08:47 cjh 11/2 08:46 wahanui 1 08:46 rangi 3600/60/60 08:46 paul_p I think 9AM is OK, because it will take some time, so I doubt that should cause a problem. 08:45 rangi i can do it now, or at 9am 08:44 paul_p rangi = When do you think you should be able to update DNS ? 08:44 paul_p OK, so exactly 12hours difference with us 08:43 rangi +13 08:43 paul_p (which TZ are you atm ? GMT-10 ?) 08:42 paul_p rangi = I don't think it's a problem. When do you think you should be able to update DNS ? 08:42 rangi but i doubt ill be able to at 8am as i most likely will be on a bus 08:41 rangi yep 08:41 paul_p rangi (do you have the permissions to update DNS) 08:41 paul_p rangi = laurent ducos just tell me he has no feedback from his previous mail about DNS changes for lists.koha-community.org . Have you seen his mail ? 08:40 rangi yep 08:40 paul_p rangi are you here ? 08:40 paul_p good morning #koha 08:27 cait magnuse: :) 08:27 cait matts: oh :) 08:26 magnuse cait: it'll be fun 08:26 matts Fine, I guess, I'm in Marseille right now ! 08:25 cait how are the cats? 08:25 cait hi matts :) 08:25 matts hi ! 08:23 cait I think I am starting to freak about flying to oslo tomorrow 08:23 cait yay! 08:21 magnuse and so should magnuse - for "get to know koha" on wednesday 08:21 wahanui kf should be writing slides 08:21 magnuse slides? 08:11 huginn cait: The operation succeeded. 08:11 cait @later tell jcamins - yes, twice 08:03 wahanui hey, lds 08:03 lds hello 08:03 gaetan_B hello 08:00 cait hi all :) 07:56 julian_m hi rangi 07:54 rangi hi julian_m 07:48 julian_m hello 07:46 cait hi magnuse 07:46 cait hi mg 07:46 magnuse hiya cait and reiveune 07:43 reiveune hello 07:34 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 3.0°C (8:20 AM CET on November 05, 2012). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 87%. Dew Point: 1.0°C. Windchill: 0.0°C. Pressure: 29.50 in 999 hPa (Steady). 07:34 magnuse @wunder boo 07:32 rangi hi alex_a 07:26 wahanui hi, alex_a 07:26 alex_a bonjour 07:23 * magnuse would vote for that! 07:19 rangi i figure nz should get every 5 :) 07:19 rangi probably 2015 07:18 magnuse hm, rememebered that wrong - yesterday was 2 years since i left, but guy fawkes was just around the corner at least 07:16 magnuse when are you hosting kohacon again? ;-) 07:16 magnuse as soon as possible is all i can say... 07:16 magnuse hehe 07:14 wizzyrea hehe 07:13 eythian_ when are you visiting agin then, everyone else is doing it. And by everyone else I mean wizzyrea. 07:11 magnuse ah, i think it's exactly 2 years since i left nz then :-) 07:11 wizzyrea i saw some from the front window :) 07:11 eythian_ jup 07:11 wizzyrea yep 07:10 magnuse would that be the guy fawkes thing? 07:10 rangi you'll hear the big ones, even if you dont see them 07:10 rangi theres just randoms letting off ones in their backyard at the moment 07:10 rangi big ones are at 9pm 07:10 rangi yeah 07:09 eythian_ not the big ones on the water, that's later I presume, but I can see this side of mt vic 07:09 * wizzyrea wonders about HER window 07:09 wizzyrea sweet :) 07:09 wizzyrea srs?! 07:09 eythian_ yep 07:09 wizzyrea can you! 07:09 eythian_ I can see fireworks from my window 07:09 eythian_ I don't know how the bot picks which to use when replying though 07:08 eythian_ if you say 'something is something' and 'something are something', that's two different things. 07:08 magnuse um libwebcats also says this is the website of the national library: http://www.nlsmw.org/ um, that seems kind of strange... 07:08 magnuse eythian_: ok? 07:08 eythian_ magnuse: fyi, 'are' and 'is' are two different databases 07:06 rangi i knew parliament was 07:06 rangi must be then 07:06 magnuse dunno - libwebcats says so 07:06 magnuse national libraries using koha are Malawi, Philippines and Venezuela and Cook Islands 07:06 rangi is the nat lib of malawi really using koha? 07:06 rangi also cook islands 07:06 wahanui magnuse: I forgot national libraries using koha 07:06 magnuse wahanui: forget national libraries using koha? 07:05 wahanui yeah, that is cool - a way to enhance the OPAC without bloating Koha... 07:05 eythian_ yeah, that 07:05 wahanui well, national libraries using koha is Malawi, Philippines and Venezuela 07:05 magnuse national libraries using koha? 07:05 magnuse ah 07:05 rangi are 07:05 eythian_ magnuse: not how the grammar works :) 07:05 magnuse national libraries? 07:05 magnuse national libraries using koha is Malawi, Philippines and Venezuela 07:05 magnuse national libraries? 07:05 magnuse national libraries using koha are Malawi, Philippines and Venezuela 07:04 magnuse national libraries? 06:57 magnuse that would be kind of cool? 06:55 wizzyrea huh. guess george lucas is going to donate the disney proceeds (4 billion US) to education. 06:48 eythian_ 'multicast_id' => '5.8395359547812e+18' <-- thanks JSON library 06:42 magnuse yup 06:41 wizzyrea I like science was funny, but being a cylon makes me sound much tougher. 06:41 wizzyrea heya 06:41 wahanui i heard wizzyrea was a Cylon, and they all have plans. 06:41 rangi hey wizzyrea 06:41 rangi magnuse: yep you should :) 06:41 wizzyrea kia ora :) 06:41 magnuse kia ora wizzyrea! 06:40 * wizzyrea waves 06:39 magnuse i should get all the norwegian ones in there to 06:39 magnuse yay 06:39 rangi found 262 items where the country is Philippines and the library automation system used is koha 06:38 rangi ahh all the philipines in there now 06:37 rangi nice, thats a jump of about 100 since i last looked 06:37 magnuse wow 1948 hits for koha in lib-web-cats 06:31 magnuse yeah, i have seen the first 1,5 seasons :-) 06:30 eythian_ magnuse: you can tell by the knight-rider style red sweeping light. 06:30 magnuse eek! 06:29 wahanui i think wizzyrea is a Cylon, and they all have plans. 06:29 magnuse wizzyrea? 06:29 * magnuse waves 05:31 vkm yes i customisez a lot thing but not able to configure this feature, if you can help better please 05:30 eythian I'd recommend reading documentation on that though. 05:30 eythian I usually postfix, and you configure it through /etc/aliases. 05:28 vkm means gmail account as a system admin account and how to configure it 05:27 vkm one think can you sugest what are the software required on server machine to send auto email from koha from my gmail account 05:26 vkm ok thx 05:22 eythian They should have made a bug and attached it to that, otherwise it won't get into Koha. 05:22 eythian that code is pretty old, I don't think it'll work without some conversion in 3.6. 05:20 vkm ok it may be, the code for this is given at http://lists.koha-community.org/pipermail/koha-devel/2009-October/032940.html , please sugest after reading 05:18 eythian I assume this is a custom feature, I don't think regular Koha can do this. 05:17 vkm yes, if we wright anything in english it automaticaly convert it in concern selected language by google 05:17 eythian it seems to be working, at least, based on what you've told us so far. 05:16 eythian OK, I see the dropdown besite the cart button, is that the language selector? 05:13 vkm OPAC should display indic language option to translate the local language from google translation the option is visible near Cart to select the language, please see example at http://libcat.mysore-univ.org/cgi-bin/koha/opac-main.pl 05:12 wahanui "What are you trying to do?" or "What is the goal?" 05:12 eythian first question? 05:11 eythian vkm: you're going to have to provide more information before anyone can help you. 05:10 vkm OPAC google transliteration is not working for local languages, is there any option in system preference for that? 3.6.4 is not having any such option? 04:59 Oak magnuse 04:59 Oak kia ora #koha 04:23 jcamins_away mtj: if you want to QA something that doesn't require Plack, bugs 8915 and 8949 are good. 03:02 huginn jcamins_away: The operation succeeded. 03:02 jcamins_away @later tell cait Have you ever seen Tanz der Vampire? 02:47 mtj i really like the idea of curious/bored users clicking on it, and getting an inspirational history lesson 02:47 mtj make it nice and subtle/discreet, so it wont annoy anyone 02:45 mtj you know what would be a great idea… an 'about Koha/what is Koha' page somewhere on the opac 02:43 mtj thanks for the help 02:42 jcamins_away Fixing. 02:42 mtj yeah… i get a pro setup would have an apache/nginx in front, to fix that 02:42 jcamins_away Actually, I got it down to one redirect. Never mind. 02:41 jcamins_away In fact, it's missing a passel of redirects. 02:41 jcamins_away Not in the configuration file. 02:41 jcamins_away oh. 02:41 jcamins_away That's... 02:41 mtj i didnt click i needed to be explicit :/ 02:41 mtj http://localhost:5001 , etc... 02:41 mtj http://localhost:5001/cgi-bin/koha/mainpage.pl , and not just ... 02:40 mtj the thing that was catching me, was needed to run 02:40 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9005 major, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Needs Signoff , Changing sysprefs requires restart under Plack 02:40 jcamins_away And 3) bug 9005 is exacerbated by using starman. 02:40 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8970 blocker, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , MARC import gives error under Starman/Plack 02:40 jcamins_away 2) bug 8970 02:40 huginn jcamins_away: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9005 major, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Needs Signoff , Changing sysprefs requires restart under Plack 02:40 huginn jcamins_away: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7844 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, dpavlin, Needs Signoff , plack scripts for developers 02:40 huginn jcamins_away: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8970 blocker, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , MARC import gives error under Starman/Plack 02:40 huginn jcamins_away: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8908 normal, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Starman/Plack hangs when faced with zombie Zebra 02:40 huginn jcamins_away: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7172 major, P1 - high, ---, paul.poulain, NEW , Omnibus for Plack variable scoping problems 02:40 jcamins_away @query starman 02:40 jcamins_away 1) no error pages 02:39 jcamins_away There are two problems with that configuration: 02:39 mtj all good, ive poked a little more and got it running :) 02:32 jcamins_away You could probably replace nginx with Apache. 02:24 mtj cool, looks good 02:22 jcamins_away http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Plack#Another_option_using_Starman_and_nginx 02:22 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8904 blocker, P5 - low, ---, paul.poulain, Pushed to Master , Plack variable scoping in tools/overduerules 02:22 jenkins_koha Paul Poulain: Bug 8904: fix Plack scoping for overduerules.pl 02:22 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #930: SUCCESS in 1 hr 9 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/930/ 02:22 mtj np, just paste it :) 02:22 jcamins_away They offend me. 02:22 jcamins_away Okay, not really. I don't do intranet/opac divides. 02:22 jcamins_away mtj: well, sort of. 02:22 jcamins_away mtj: yes. 02:18 mtj and i suspect ive got some of my $PATH stuff incorrect... 02:18 mtj but they are for tarball/package installs only 02:18 mtj im using the examples from this page -> http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Plack 02:17 mtj does anyone have a intra.psgi file about, for a koha-git setup? 02:17 mtj hi #koha , i've a random plack Q... 01:21 cait hm not too bad 01:20 huginn cait: The current temperature in Holter, Holter, Norway is 2.2°C (2:17 AM CET on November 05, 2012). Conditions: Fog. Humidity: 99%. Dew Point: 2.0°C. Windchill: 2.0°C. Pressure: 29.53 in 1000 hPa (Steady). 01:20 cait @wunder Oslo, Norway 01:20 cait maybe 01:20 cait yeah, Ithink so 01:20 eythian probably needs more ø 01:19 huginn cait: Error: No such location could be found. 01:19 cait @wunder oslo 01:13 jenkins_koha Starting build #930 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS) 01:09 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 8904: fix Plack scoping for overduerules.pl <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=b6b63294351847a1326b7772c105d84aaa60f493>