Time Nick Message 21:06 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #929: SUCCESS in 1 hr 9 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/929/ 20:44 Brooke cheers mate. Have a good saturday 20:43 rangi And now I'm off with the kids 20:42 rangi Brooke++ 20:42 huginn Brooke: The operation succeeded. 20:42 Brooke @later tell nengard good I'm glad. I was worried. 20:41 rangi Yep only reason I broke my rule 20:40 Brooke we shall use the awesome power of manaakitanga to out signal their noise, sir. 20:39 rangi If that was my first reply and I was them I'd go look at evergreen instead 20:39 rangi Well they won't if trolly troll trolls keep hassling them 20:38 Brooke I'm just happy to see Turkish folks taking an interest :) 20:37 Brooke tsc, that's a good thing :) 20:37 rangi Answered the archives paul 20:36 * Brooke gives waha a smeck 20:36 wahanui which one is 3.6.x? 20:36 Brooke which one? 20:36 rangi Dang broke my own rule 20:29 Brooke :) 20:29 jcamins o/ 20:28 JesseM \o 20:27 Brooke o/ 19:58 jenkins_koha Starting build #929 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS) 19:57 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8826 minor, P5 - low, ---, mtompset, Pushed to Stable , Initialization of hash triggers error log entries. 19:57 jenkins_koha * kyle: Bug 8826 - Initialization of hash triggers error log entries - Followup 19:57 jenkins_koha * mtompset: Bug 8826 - Initialization of hash triggers error log entries. 19:57 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #928: SUCCESS in 1 hr 56 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/928/ 19:18 rangi we really should fix the xml in the french manual so that stops failing 19:18 jenkins_koha Master_Packages: last build: 115 (1 hr 18 min ago): SUCCESS: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Master_Packages/115/ 19:18 jenkins_koha Koha_master(BUILDING: 1 hr 18 min and counting): last build: 927 (3 hr 5 min ago): SUCCESS: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/927/ 19:18 jenkins_koha Koha_Docs: last build: 223 (1 hr 6 min ago): FAILURE: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Docs/223/ 19:18 jenkins_koha Koha_3.8.x: last build: 222 (1 hr 51 min ago): SUCCESS: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.8.x/222/ 19:18 jenkins_koha Koha_3.6.x: last build: 63 (10 days ago): UNSTABLE: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.6.x/63/ 19:18 jenkins_koha Koha_3.4.x(disabled) : last build: 80 (8 mo 15 days ago): UNSTABLE: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.4.x/80/ 19:18 jenkins_koha Koha_3.2.x(disabled) : last build: 36 (11 mo ago): UNSTABLE: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.2.x/36/ 19:18 jenkins_koha Koha_3.10.x: last build: 6 (2 hr 21 min ago): SUCCESS: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.10.x/6/ 19:18 jenkins_koha 3_8_packages(BUILDING: 3 min 35 sec and counting): last build: 151 (1 day 8 hr ago): SUCCESS: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/3_8_packages/151/ 19:18 jenkins_koha 3_6_Packages: last build: 21 (1 mo 19 days ago): SUCCESS: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/3_6_Packages/21/ 19:18 jenkins_koha status of all projects: 19:18 rangi !jenkins status 19:15 jcamins Heh. I hadn't noticed that there was no mention of postgres and solr. 19:15 oleonard Have a good weekend #koha 19:14 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8826 minor, P5 - low, ---, mtompset, Pushed to Stable , Initialization of hash triggers error log entries. 19:14 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8804 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Stable , Quiet errors in the log from Auth.pm 19:14 jenkins_koha * mtompset: Bug 8826 - Initialization of hash triggers error log entries. 19:14 jenkins_koha * oleonard: Bug 8804 [Revised] Quiet errors in the log from Auth.pm 19:14 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.8.x build #222: SUCCESS in 1 hr 47 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.8.x/222/ 19:12 rangi https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2012/10/governments-attack-cloud-computing 19:12 rangi But in addition, the government's approach should terrify any user of cloud computer services—not to mention the providers. The government maintains that Mr. Goodwin lost his property rights in his data by storing it on a cloud computing service. 19:05 rangi that worked 19:00 * rangi tries an install 18:58 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9001 critical, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Needs Signoff , zebraqueue_daemon is deprecated and must go 18:58 rangi yay bug 9001 18:56 libsysguy lol 18:56 * libsysguy shrugs 18:56 tcohen wtf did i attach? 18:56 libsysguy I already resolved it 18:56 libsysguy but it was no big deal 18:56 tcohen oh my 18:56 libsysguy umm the conflict was the number of tests to perform 18:55 rangi cool 18:55 jcamins Yeah, it makes sense. 18:55 tcohen maybe because of recent bug that was pushed that touches is_holiday? 18:55 rangi the patch does what it says, just checking its not a bad idea 18:54 libsysguy yeah it didn't apply due to merge conflicts 18:54 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8981 minor, P5 - low, ---, dcook, Needs Signoff , Remove Nonpublic General Note from OPAC authorities display 18:54 rangi bug 8981 18:54 tcohen error aplying? 18:54 jcamins rangi: sure. 18:54 libsysguy tcohen probably should, when I applied I got an error 18:53 rangi jcamins: got a sec? 18:53 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8826 minor, P5 - low, ---, mtompset, Pushed to Stable , Initialization of hash triggers error log entries. 18:53 jenkins_koha * kyle: Bug 8826 - Initialization of hash triggers error log entries - Followup 18:53 jenkins_koha * mtompset: Bug 8826 - Initialization of hash triggers error log entries. 18:53 jenkins_koha * nengard: Bug 8945: Update Tags help files for 3.10 18:53 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8945 major, P5 - low, ---, nengard, Pushed to Stable , Koha 3.10 Help Files Update 18:53 jenkins_koha * nengard: Bug 8945: Tools Help Files 18:53 jenkins_koha * nengard: Bug 8945: Update lists help for 3.10 18:53 jenkins_koha * nengard: Bug 8945: Update suggestion help file for 3.10 18:53 jenkins_koha * nengard: Bug 8945: Serials Help Files for 3.10 18:53 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.10.x build #6: SUCCESS in 1 hr 56 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.10.x/6/ 18:50 rangi hmm thats a bit odd 18:48 oleonard I wonder why the OPAC has a publication date range search and the staff client doesn't 18:47 tcohen libsysguy, what do u think of a new bug for revisiting Calendar.t? 18:45 rangi heh 18:45 jcamins rangi: why draw the line at "limited trolling"? 18:44 rangi oh man, now he's trolling prospective support suppliers too 18:42 rangi northerly 35kmph gusting to 50kmph .. just the usual then 18:42 rangi ah ha 18:41 rangi i wish it had wind direction/speed 18:41 rangi hmm 18:41 huginn rangi: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 13.0°C (7:00 AM NZDT on November 03, 2012). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 94%. Dew Point: 12.0°C. Pressure: 29.50 in 999 hPa (Steady). 18:41 rangi @wunder nzwn 18:40 rangi thats still a good one 18:40 rangi heh 18:40 huginn gmcharlt: Quote #68: "gmcharlt: which probably means that library schools ought to rename Cataloging 101 to Identification and Avoidance of Rabbit Holes 101" (added by wizzyrea_laptop at 08:17 PM, March 10, 2010) 18:40 gmcharlt @quote random 18:38 huginn rangi: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 13.0°C (7:00 AM NZDT on November 03, 2012). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 94%. Dew Point: 12.0°C. Pressure: 29.50 in 999 hPa (Steady). 18:38 rangi @wunder nzwn 18:38 rangi im quite a fan of redmine 18:35 rangi heh 18:34 tcohen hmm, our redmine setup thinks koha has too much commits :-D 18:33 chris_n lol 18:32 wahanui it has been said that signing off is a great idea! or at http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Sign_off_on_patches 18:32 nengard signing off 18:32 nengard okey dokey 18:32 rangi heh 18:32 oleonard nengard: That makes sense, but it's outside the scope of the bug I think 18:32 oleonard ...and it's very endearing rangi. 18:32 rangi (dont mind me im just talking to myself hehe) 18:31 rangi (that was with eythian, mtj, and me) 18:31 nengard a damaged item can't be put on hold - but it can be checked out - at least there is no rule against it - but because of the preference to not allow holds it says that damaged items are unavailable 18:31 rangi "The last meal I had with colleagues was with developers. I had forgotten how endearing they can be." 18:31 rangi awww 18:30 nengard oleonard, one problem 18:29 nengard i did just reindex 18:29 nengard oh! jcamins i like your explanation better 18:29 rangi you can see the new te takere library :) 18:28 jcamins nengard: it could also have been indexing delay. 18:28 nengard will try patch again 18:28 nengard I see it right now on master 18:28 nengard oleonard it's the latter 18:28 rangi http://freerangelibrarian.com/2012/11/02/the-fall-funnel-of-fun/ 18:27 oleonard I am 18:27 nengard or maybe it's cause i'm just too tired to see straight 18:27 nengard oleonard are you a superlibrarian ? maybe it's cause i'm a superlibrarian 18:26 rangi sposta be meeting wizzyrea, trea and spud at the railway station to go to the pet expo today 18:25 rangi weather has returned to normal rainy and windy here 18:23 rangi need more coffee obviously 18:22 rangi heh 18:22 rangi @wunder nzwn 18:21 * gmcharlt kicks huggin 18:21 jcamins gmcharlt: just a moment too late! 18:21 gmcharlt @quote random 18:17 oleonard ...and the same in master 18:16 oleonard I don't find it to be the case. I'm looking at a record with one item, that item is damaged, AllowHoldsOnDamagedItems is off... I see "No holds allowed" instead of the holds link 18:15 nengard or one we just now found 18:15 nengard and i don't know if it's a reported bug 18:15 nengard but it's in your test plan 18:15 nengard it's a bug that's not related to the thing you fixed 18:15 nengard mind you that's the case in master too 18:14 nengard yes 18:14 oleonard nengard: AllowHoldsOnDamagedItems is turned off and you still see the holds link on the search results page? 18:12 nengard hehe 18:12 oleonard Heh, I guess I shouldn't be so thorough in my test plans ;) 18:11 nengard it did what i wanted, but didn't pass the tests you laid out 18:10 nengard i was pretty excited about it 18:10 nengard sorry oleonard 18:10 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8975 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Failed QA , search results should say on order in staff client 18:10 oleonard *Sigh,* that was fast. Bug 8975. 18:08 tcohen at least we can now read which syspref case is handled by which branch 18:08 libsysguy okay, well I'll give it a shot 18:07 tcohen having multiple if hours... inside every branch) 18:07 tcohen (that's what the code does 18:07 tcohen and mixing branches is much worse 18:06 tcohen (days vs. hours) 18:06 tcohen as i see it if the code has big branches inside, it is better to call a specific function for that 18:05 libsysguy heh I am having to refactor my code. If yours doesn't work I'll take a poke at fixing the current code before I delete it :p 18:05 tcohen is it ok if you write another patch for this 18:04 libsysguy uh oh lol 18:04 tcohen (unnecesarilly) 18:04 tcohen i just didn't understand the code, that was too complex 18:04 tcohen look elliot, i really tried to fix this the way paul said 18:04 libsysguy :p 18:04 libsysguy I just didn't want to clutter up my nice clean qa space 18:03 libsysguy okay 18:03 tcohen obsolete it too 18:03 tcohen a patch that applies to 3.8 18:03 libsysguy oh okay, what is the middle one? 18:02 wahanui i guess the last one is the first one if you look backwards. 18:02 tcohen yes, the last one 18:02 tcohen the last one is a rewrite, as the first failed qa 18:02 libsysguy just the last one? 18:02 tcohen no 18:02 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8800 major, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Needs Signoff , SpecifyDueDate && useDaysMode=Datedue wrong behaviour 18:02 libsysguy do I need all 3 patches to on bug 8800 18:02 libraryman tnx man 18:01 jcamins libraryman: I don't know how to use marcedit, sorry. 18:01 tcohen yup 18:01 libsysguy tcohen you around? 18:01 libraryman the stuff is trowin error 18:00 jenkins_koha Starting build #928 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS) 18:00 libraryman having issue convert my records in execl into marc 17:59 jenkins_koha * nengard: Bug 8945: Update Tags help files for 3.10 17:59 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8945 major, P5 - low, ---, nengard, Pushed to Stable , Koha 3.10 Help Files Update 17:59 jenkins_koha * nengard: Bug 8945: Tools Help Files 17:59 jenkins_koha * nengard: Bug 8945: Update lists help for 3.10 17:59 jenkins_koha * nengard: Bug 8945: Update suggestion help file for 3.10 17:59 jenkins_koha * nengard: Bug 8945: Serials Help Files for 3.10 17:59 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #927: SUCCESS in 1 hr 46 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/927/ 17:34 libraryman tnx man!tis realy insightful 17:33 jcamins So, yes, if you convert the records to MARC you can just upload the records using the "Stage MARC Records" tool. 17:32 libraryman it is installd 17:32 libraryman k 17:32 jcamins Assuming you have Koha installed and set up, yes. 17:31 libraryman tnx pals 17:31 libraryman so all i need is the conversion 17:31 libraryman k 17:31 jcamins Yes, CSV is generally better to start with than Excel. 17:31 jcamins marcedit is a tool for editing MARC records. It can also convert spreadsheets to MARC. See http://people.oregonstate.edu/~reeset/marcedit/html/index.php 17:30 libraryman will csv help 17:30 libraryman how 17:30 jcamins libraryman: yes, if you convert them to MARC. 17:30 wahanui jcamins: I forgot marcedit 17:30 jcamins wahanui: forget marcedit 17:30 libraryman can i upload them all at once? 17:30 * Oak waves goodbye 17:29 wahanui marcedit is a great tool to help you with that. Or there are other Marc Editing tools you can use as well. well there ya have it from kf_a! 17:29 jcamins marcedit? 17:29 jcamins A lot of people use Marcedit for that. 17:29 jcamins You will need to convert them into MARC. 17:28 libraryman excel 17:28 jcamins *records 17:28 jcamins libraryman: what format are the books in? 17:27 libraryman need help want to upload my data(books)to koha 17:27 jenkins_koha Starting build #222 for job Koha_3.8.x (previous build: SUCCESS) 17:27 wahanui hey, libraryman 17:27 libraryman hi 17:22 libsysguy1 poo wahanui 17:21 libsysguy1 qa tools? 17:19 tcohen http://tug.org/texlive/acquire-netinstall.html 17:19 jcamins Hm. I shall experiment. 17:18 tcohen with a script that is provided in the texlive site (texlive > the new latex distribution, superseding tetex) 17:17 tcohen which is just straightforwrd 17:17 tcohen for my thesis i had to (conveniently) install by hand the 2012 version 17:17 jcamins I figured it was so stable that they'd just stopped working on it. :P 17:17 tcohen but quantal has 2012 already so... 17:17 jcamins Yeah, 2009 is what I have. 17:17 tcohen (precise comes with 2009 version) 17:16 tcohen debian has had problems packaging texlive (and hence ubuntu) 17:15 jcamins New version of LaTeX 17:15 jcamins Ooh! 17:15 jcamins There's a new version? 17:15 jcamins tcohen: lambda kills kittens, and pdflatex isn't fond of unicode either. 17:14 tcohen r u using texlive 2012? 17:13 tcohen what's the problem with LaTeX? 16:59 jcamins They're all more evil. I meant I'm trying to figure out which is _least_ evil. 16:58 jcamins I am trying to decide, which of these is more evil: images and UTF-8 in LaTeX, indexes in XSL-FO, or documentation in InDesign. 16:57 jenkins_koha Starting build #6 for job Koha_3.10.x (previous build: SUCCESS) 16:55 jcamins jeff: hehe. Yup. That's exactly where I am. 16:55 jeff jcamins: Now it is time to play a game I like to call "STABLE? OR DEAD?" 16:54 jeff jcamins: the wikipedia Talk page for XSL Formatting Objects has two requests for information on the standard's future dating back to 2008, but the Apache FOP project did have a 1.1 release within the last two weeks. 16:45 gaetan_B bye 16:37 jcamins Oh, XSL-FO. Are you a standard still trying to find your place, or are you just DOA? 16:33 * jcamins revisits XSL-FO. 16:31 oleonard :) 16:31 jcamins oleonard: we're talking about _me_. 16:30 oleonard It is if you're willing to relinquish control over how it looks 16:30 jcamins And when I say "printer-friendly" what I really mean is "I can't use HTML instead of LaTeX, no matter how much I want to be lazy, can I?" 16:27 jcamins HTML isn't printer-friendly no matter what, is it? 16:17 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 8826 - Initialization of hash triggers error log entries - Followup <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=5011479de33e56aa27c74fd60befe4e4963ce013> / Bug 8826 - Initialization of hash triggers error log entries. <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=bf4a7bd65c8529b5eaf3cbea6d7111bef634cc22> 16:12 jenkins_koha Starting build #927 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS) 16:08 mtj hmm not sure, i qa-ed some acq bugs 2 days ago on master, and the budgets/funds setup worked ok for me, on a fresh db 16:08 jcamins Oh, there's another bug that passed QA. 16:07 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Merge branch 'bug_8945' into 3.12-master <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=369c5382a48ab2faab1f49e710681681e718ab40> / Bug 8945: Update Tags help files for 3.10 <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=be0f16aaac1a5dd2c18c0ba18d388de67fe1c467> / Bug 8945: Tools Help Files <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=c075970daa27d770ec807bad1467d25761 16:04 mtj i googled, and spotted khall had the same problem as me... 16:04 jcamins Maybe the problem is that the budget was created by the database user. 16:03 jcamins Humbug. 16:03 mtj yep 16:03 mtj switching to a proper user, fixed that problem, for me 16:03 jcamins But when you logged in as a regular user it worked? 16:03 mtj i was doing some acq testing as kohaadmin, and got that similar error… :/ 16:02 mtj no 16:02 jcamins No, should I be? 16:02 mtj are you testing using the kohaadmin/db user? 16:02 jcamins mtj: do you have a solution? :) 16:02 mtj jcamins, i spotted yr acq/budgets problems before… 16:00 reiveune bye 15:58 oleonard Here's me inside Search.pm trying to get a working patch: http://no-way-out.tumblr.com/post/34633927605/decisions-decisions 15:57 * oleonard emerges safely from Search.pm with what he hopes is a working patch 15:43 mtompset Have a good day (24 hour period), #koha. Bye. 15:30 oleonard Thanks nengard 15:29 nengard oleonard, manual updated regarding clicking tags: http://manual.koha-community.org/3.10/en/tools.html#tagsmoderation 15:28 mveron oleonard: I will test it. 15:25 oleonard The include datatables-strings.inc should pass the translatable strings to the script. I wonder if the problem is that stray </script> at line 9 of quotes.tt? 15:20 mveron Can anybody confirm for other languages? 15:19 mveron It seems that parts of 'Edit quotes for QOTD feature' is not translatable. In German I get things like "Showing 1 to 4 of 4 entries". Seems to be related to koha-tmpl/opac-tmpl/prog/en/js/datatables.js 15:02 paul_p jcamins done 14:59 jcamins That would be appreciated. 14:59 paul_p jcamins but if you want my "passed QA" official statement, I can add it on the bug ;-) 14:59 jcamins Okay, I will review them in a bit. 14:59 paul_p jcamins (they're all html only, online help only, so don't wait for "passed QA" 14:59 jcamins paul_p: they need to be QAed. 14:58 huginn 04Bug 8945: major, P5 - low, ---, nengard, Signed Off , Koha 3.10 Help Files Update 14:58 paul_p jcamins I agreed with nicole that I could push for 3.10 patches related to online documentation, despite String Freeze. So, could you push patches she submitted on bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8945 ? 14:57 jcamins paul_p: I am. 14:57 paul_p jcamins about ? 14:56 oleonard I'm just working through the logic of if not lost, not withdrawn, not damaged, etc. 14:55 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8975 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, NEW , search results should say on order in staff client 14:55 oleonard Bug 8975 requires that something with notforloan < 0 be both categorized as unavailable *and* set the $can_place_holds variable to 1 14:53 jcamins What are you working on? 14:53 oleonard *Sigh* It's for the good of the cause. 14:53 jcamins oleonard: I could've told you that was a bad idea. 14:52 oleonard Ugh, I'm in Search.pm and my brain hurts now! 14:38 jcamins You mean the put the names in the correct order? 14:37 mtompset It's gets uglier on the other example, they change the order of first name and last name. 14:37 jcamins But the only way to be sure is to have them correct it. 14:37 jcamins Yeah, that'd be my guess as well. 14:36 mtompset The problem is there's no nice way to clean that programmatically. 14:36 mtompset My guess is two... look at the second $a on the 700 and the 100$a... two individual names, and the first one merges them. 14:32 jcamins Especially not programmatically. 14:31 jcamins However, based on that information, you have no way of knowing whether that's one person or two. 14:31 jcamins First author goes in 100, second author goes in 700. 14:31 jcamins Then they have to decide that. 14:30 mtompset What if it was co-authored? 14:30 jcamins Yes. They have to figure out who wrote the book. 14:30 mtompset Okay... so pass them the MRK file to clean up. 14:29 jcamins I'd get them to recatalog that record, since it's clearly wrong but what they meant is unclear. 14:28 pastebot "mtompset" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "How would you resolve these kinds of problems?" (2 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/260 14:27 mtompset Okay... next question... I put some don't generate blank field logic in my code, and now there are only "three" problem records. 14:19 mtompset But it can be used for a very elementary library catalogue. 14:18 mtompset And was more intended for dictionary development. 14:18 mtompset But it is available for download for free. 14:18 mtompset I can't remember which is newer. 14:18 mtompset or is it shoebox now... 14:18 mtompset It's used in an application called toolbox. 14:17 mtompset The tags at the front of the line map to various fields/subfields. 14:17 jcamins Oh, yeah, I've seen those. 14:17 mtompset Each MARC record is delimited like a MRK file, a blank line. 14:16 pastebot "mtompset" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "Sample dummy record of SFM file" (3 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/259 14:16 wahanui i heard paste was found at http://paste.koha-community.org 14:16 mtompset paste? 14:15 jcamins Never heard of them. 14:15 mtompset Well, not really bizzare, just I would not have expected SFM files. 14:14 jcamins Ah. 14:14 mtompset And they have their library files in yet another bizarre format. 14:14 mtompset We're working in Asia, so we are now adding branches in another country now. 14:13 mtompset No, this is the same project... It just keeps growing. 14:13 jcamins mtompset: I guess you found another library-related posting? 14:10 jcamins That means no repeating $a. You have to repeat the entire field. 14:10 jcamins In MARC, 1xx, 6xx, 7xx, and some 8xx fields are controlled. 14:10 jeff 700 is repeatable, 700$a is not. 14:10 mtompset Well, neither is 100$a. 14:10 jcamins 7xx fields are controlled. 14:10 jcamins No, of course not. 14:09 mtompset Oh shoot! That sucks... I thought 700$a was repeatable. 14:09 mtompset Now to run the MarcEdit validation... 14:08 mtompset YES! 14:07 gmcharlt so *that's* what it feels like when gdb attches to one's brain ;) 14:06 mtompset Finally... I knew asking would help me debug. :) 14:05 mtompset s vs. no s. 14:05 mtompset Oh shoot... typo on my part... that explains it. 14:04 jcamins mtompset: yes it does. my $field = $record->field('245'). 14:03 mtompset fields() does, but field('245') doesn't. 14:03 gmcharlt mtompset: it does in fact return a MARC::Field object (or list of them, in list context) 14:03 mtompset Is there a better way? 14:02 mtompset I think fields() does, but then I have to find the right one. 14:02 mtompset That doesn't return a MARC::Field. 14:02 jcamins mtompset: http://search.cpan.org/~gmcharlt/MARC-Record-2.0.3/lib/MARC/Record.pm#field(_tagspec(s)_) 14:01 mtompset I don't see a function which returns a MARC::Field object in MARC::Record. 14:01 mtompset Okay... I've done that... but how do I update the existing one? 14:00 jcamins Check if a 245 exists before creating a new one? 13:59 mtompset I have a coding question... I have a file with markers that map relatively easily to MARC fields and subfields... how do I actually build a MARC::Record in a disjointed manner? That is, one marker is 245$a, but the next line is 245$b. How do I get them on the same 245 field? 13:58 mtompset Greetings, jcamins and oleonard. 13:57 jcamins Maybe. 13:57 jcamins Well, if people had their own templates they might not have been affected. 13:56 oleonard I don't think we need to warn anyone about removing them since they can't have been working for that log 13:55 oleonard Oh, even further back. So these custom RSS feeds have been broken since 3.4 13:55 jcamins 3.4. 13:55 oleonard 3.6 was the first Template::Toolkit version wasn't it? 13:54 jcamins Probably. 13:53 oleonard Must be my don't-track-me-bro settings in my browser 13:52 jcamins oleonard: it shows up and works for me. 13:51 oleonard Custom Google search of the manual broken? I don't see the form on http://koha-community.org/documentation/ 13:34 oleonard Ah, I missed the add the file step 13:33 jcamins oleonard: make the change, add the file, and then use git commit --amend -s 13:32 oleonard I forget... If I want to sign off on something and sneakily include a tiny typo fix how should I do it? 13:25 oleonard These are the bugs from paul_p's list for 3.10 13:24 oleonard http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/buglist.cgi?quicksearch=8919%208832%208378%208945%208800%208746%204381%208918%208896%208369%207358&list_id=45371 13:24 oleonard Neat, I didn't know you could pass an arbitrary set of bug numbers to Bugzilla and get a nice list 13:18 oleonard khall around? 13:05 jcamins I need some commit hooks. 12:58 * libsysguy now remembers what he was going to ask chris_n 12:50 jcamins *sense 12:50 jcamins Hm. That makes sesne. 12:50 oleonard "database administrator login?" 12:49 oleonard "MySQL user" more accurate but not less confusing? 12:49 jcamins Possibly, but I'm not sure what it is. 12:48 oleonard "admin login" seems ambiguous. I wonder if there's a better way of saying that. 12:46 jcamins oleonard: the text change is in the patch I signed off on. 12:45 oleonard I'd be happy to submit a revised patch for 9008 if that would help. jcamins, you suggest a text change? 12:45 oleonard congrats paul_p 12:45 jcamins Yay! 12:45 jcamins paul_p: not unless oleonard is revising the patch for bug 9008. 12:44 * paul_p has a confirmation that he is invited for a conference in New Delhi in february, to talk about Koha. /me happy !!! 12:44 * paul_p confused... jcamins weren't you talking to oleonard in fact when you said " paul_p: if you revise that patch, you may want to use my changed text." 12:43 jcamins oleonard found some problems with the markup. 12:43 oleonard paul_p: I noticed a typo 12:43 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9008 normal, P5 - low, ---, paul.poulain, Failed QA , Warn if librarian logged-in with mysql/admin account 12:43 jcamins paul_p: bug 9008 12:42 wahanui somebody said jcamins was too young to be the President of the United States. Which is a pity, because he had the votes at the 3.12 election. 12:42 paul_p jcamins ??? 12:41 jcamins paul_p: if you revise that patch, you may want to use my changed text. 12:36 libsysguy poor chris_n, he was a good fellow 12:36 * chris_n heads back to the world of elusive voip problems 12:35 libsysguy ^^ same 12:35 * chris_n tends to grab the hammer too quickly sometimes 12:34 chris_n probably frustration with very broken code or some such 12:34 chris_n there was a reason I did not do that, but I cannot recall atm :) 12:34 chris_n right 12:33 jcamins chris_n: as a debug tool in the future, it is possible to pass HTTP arguments on the command line: ./script.pl arg=whatever 12:33 * chris_n hopes to get back to Koha in Jan 2013 12:33 chris_n getopts would be better for the scripts that are cli useful 12:33 chris_n its safe to remove it and/or replace it where necessary 12:33 paul_p chris_n yep, seen your comment. And jcamins has signed off -;) 12:32 chris_n jcamins paul_p: ARGV was a quick and dirty debug tool I used early in dev of the label stuff 12:31 * jcamins delegates this question to cait, for when she gets home from her vacation. 12:31 * jcamins does. 12:30 oleonard I don't know how one checks to see if a translation is incomplete or whether you're seeing something which cannot be translated 12:29 jcamins Same issue in Bokmal. 12:29 jcamins I guess that could be. 12:29 oleonard Incomplete translation? 12:29 jcamins http://screencast.com/t/DO5R6z2a5lai 12:28 oleonard So where are you seeing untranslated headings jcamins ? 12:27 oleonard And in the OPAC the template lacks the [% facets_loo.type_label %] line 12:27 libsysguy sounds like a bandaid gone bad 12:26 oleonard ...is followed by [% IF ( facets_loo.type_label_Authors ) %]Authors[% END %] etc. 12:26 oleonard This line: [% facets_loo.type_label %] 12:26 oleonard Actually now I'm confused about it 12:25 oleonard Wait, that's not entirely true 12:24 jcamins Yuck. 12:24 jcamins oleonard: ah. 12:24 oleonard jcamins: The headings don't come from the template, they come from the script: [% facets_loo.type_label %] 12:20 jcamins Is there a reason that the headings on the facets aren't translated? 12:19 oleonard Hi #koha 12:13 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8490 blocker, P5 - low, ---, paul.poulain, Needs Signoff , Error when adding label layout under plack 12:13 jcamins Okay, chris_n confirms your fix on bug 8490 is safe. 12:09 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9005 major, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Needs Signoff , Changing sysprefs requires restart under Plack 12:09 jcamins paul_p: a signoff on bug 9005 would be much appreciated. The way I can't just activate a language drives me nuts. 12:08 jcamins I did. I deleted it with the plan to go back and create a new active budget, in the hopes that maybe it would help. 12:07 paul_p jcamins = about the acquisition, do you have a budget that is ACTIVE ? 12:04 jcamins paul_p: https://github.com/jcamins/git-bz 11:59 jcamins I can't test bug 8892, since no matter what I do I can't get the acquisitions module to stop telling me to create a budget, but I can test the other two. 11:57 paul_p jcamins = of course no !!! 11:57 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8949 normal, P5 - low, ---, paul.poulain, Needs Signoff , Trying to view help on a page without any help results in a Perl error 11:57 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8997 major, P5 - low, ---, paul.poulain, Needs Signoff , Dead code in C4/Language causing useless SQL queries 11:57 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8892 major, P1 - high, ---, paul.poulain, Needs Signoff , Plack variable scoping in basket.pl 11:57 jcamins paul_p: would you object if I corrected the grammar of your warning? 11:57 paul_p bug 8892, bug 8997, bug 8949, need signoff ! 11:55 * paul_p just finished the tour of all bugs that have 'Plack' somewhere ! 11:55 jcamins paul_p: I'm inclined to agree with you, but if that's actually used from the command line, we can suggest erasing ARGV. 11:55 paul_p jcamins = about the auto-signoff to git-bz, please share this with us !!! 11:54 paul_p jcamins = yep, but OTOH, I don't see why we should keep $ARGV, so, it's a better fix 11:54 jcamins Erase $ARGV in your psgi. 11:54 jcamins paul_p: there's actually another workaround, I think. 11:53 huginn jcamins: The operation succeeded. 11:53 jcamins @later tell chris_n Could you please take a look at bug 8490? I can test and sign off, if you can confirm that the change is reasonable. 11:44 * jcamins adds an auto-signoff switch to git-bz for the release process. 11:37 magnuse ? definitely middle of the day :-) 11:36 paul_p magnuse = for you is it middle of the day or middle of the night ? :D :D 11:35 magnuse good middle-of-the-day to you too paul_p :-) 11:35 paul_p good morning jcamins & magnuse & others (well, for magnus & me it's no more the morning ;-) ) 11:03 magnuse ah hah 11:02 jcamins magnuse: American Numismatic Society. Library -> American Numismatic Society 10:57 * cait waves back 10:57 * magnuse waves to cait 10:55 * magnuse wonders what an "Immediate parent body" is... 10:48 magnuse yay 10:47 jcamins Oh, yeah. We went for a walk a few days ago. 10:46 magnuse have you ventured outside yet? 10:45 magnuse kia ora jcamins 10:45 jcamins Good morning, #koha. 10:25 magnuse oops, sorry about that Maxie... 10:16 Maxie2012 I just can't get to my intranet site to access the Web Installer 10:15 Maxie2012 seriously....can anyone out there help? 09:55 Maxie2012 that's what I meant by I can't get in... 09:55 Maxie2012 I've been trying for about an hour....is there a command I can key in from the command line? 09:54 Maxie2012 okay...I know this is really a dumb question, but how do I visit the intranet? 09:53 Maxie2012 when I go to http://localhost:8080/ it says unable to load page 09:52 magnuse Maxie2012: what you see on http://localhost is the opac, but you need to visit the intranet and run through the webinstaller before you can actually see the opac 09:50 magnuse how about http://localhost:8080/ 09:50 magnuse woohoo, that means it's mostly working! 09:48 Maxie2012 went to http://localhost and it says SYSTEM MAINENANCE The Koha online catalogue is offline for system maintenance 09:44 Maxie2012 in the documentation.....Koha 3.8 on Debian Squeeze 09:42 Oak and http://localhost:8080 09:42 Oak what does http://localhost in your browser say? 09:41 Oak Maxie2012, where does it say that? 09:41 Maxie2012 can anyone help explain what it means when it says you should be able to see something... 09:30 Maxie2012 As such, I don't even know if the installation was successful... 09:30 Maxie2012 well...I was hoping someone here could give me some clue as to what I should be looking for and where....unfortunately, I'm also not familiar with Linux 09:27 wahanui help is at http://koha-community.org/support/ if no-one here can help. 09:27 Maxie2012 help....! 09:27 Maxie2012 I'm STUCK!! I don't know how to get in! 09:27 Maxie2012 I entered the command to create the Koha instance and reached the part that says "Once done you should be able to see something at http://kohaadmin/ and http://koha/ from your desktop machine." 09:25 magnuse well done Maxie2012! 09:25 Maxie2012 I used the koha-common package 09:23 Maxie2012 I have just managed to install the Koha 3.8 package on Debian Squeeze following the instructions from a link that was recommended i.e. http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Koha_3.8_on_Debian_Squeeze 09:20 Maxie2012 Hello! 08:59 magnuse a day or two 08:59 magnuse should be shortly before the release, i think? 08:58 cait hi magnuse :) 08:58 cait shortly before release I would guess 08:58 Oak hmm 08:58 cait I am not sure 08:58 * magnuse waves to cait 08:58 mveron cait: OK, I will do. When ist deadline for translations? 08:57 Oak so how is marcus? 08:57 cait but you might wan to test de-ch too... so maybe good to start that 08:56 cait mveron: don't know about changes, I think we might find some things to correct while testing 08:53 mveron I see that de-DE is completely translated, will there be any changes? Otherwise I teake it now for de-CH... 08:51 mveron Hi cait-m :-) 08:51 cait-m hi mveron 08:50 mveron Good morning #koha 08:48 * cait-m waves 08:26 mtompset A little late for a halloween related joke, oh well. :) 08:26 mtompset Ooo... mode +o, she has the power. Does that make wizzyrea She-ra? ;) 08:12 gaetan_B hello 08:01 * magnuse waves to wizzyrea 07:50 magnuse kia ora! 07:50 reiveune hi :) 07:49 mtompset Oops... greetings, magnuse. bonjour, reiveune. :) 07:42 wahanui bonjour, reiveune 07:42 reiveune hello 07:38 magnuse yay! 07:38 magnuse Oak 07:37 Oak magnuse 07:27 wahanui kf should be writing slides 07:27 magnuse slides? 07:17 * magnuse waves 06:46 mtompset cait must be commuting and/or having lousy connectivity today. 06:46 francharb hi Oak, mtompset 06:46 mtompset Greetings, francharb. 06:45 Oak morning francharb 06:45 Oak hello mtompset :) 06:13 francharb good morning #koha 06:08 mtompset Welcome to a timezone closer to the Philippines, wizzyrea. ;) 06:08 mtompset greetings, Oak and wizzyrea. 06:07 mtompset I think I saw nengard on yesterday. 06:03 Oak i did not even know about the whole thing... as I don't watch tv, and well, don't read newspaper either. bad habit i know. 06:02 Oak Brooke said we should worry about Nicole not her. 06:00 Oak oh good 06:00 wizzyrea oh yes, she's fine and well - I think they were supposed to get power back tonight 06:00 Oak ah okay. just wondering if nengard is okay. 05:59 wizzyrea oak - not at the moment... why for? 05:59 Oak wizzyrea, you live in US right? 05:56 * Oak waves 01:11 mtompset true enough. 01:10 eythian well, there's documented values, but aside from the size part, there's probably an excuse for having anything 01:09 mtompset Against valid value ranges for each position? 01:09 mtompset Against validate value ranges for each position? 01:08 eythian mtompset: validate against what? 01:08 eythian https://twitter.com/adzebill/status/264171157656305664/photo/1 00:59 wahanui The MARC specs live at http://www.loc.gov/marc/bibliographic/ - abandon hope all ye who enter here. 00:59 mtompset MARC? 00:59 mtompset MARC?\ 00:58 mtompset Koha doesn't validate the LDR field? 00:57 eythian oh, just grab the LDR from a stereotypical record and slap it in. 00:55 mtompset I mean field... ARG, I keep messing up records and fields with respect to MARC files. 00:54 mtompset I have data in SFM format, which is pretty easy to map to MARC, but there's no LDR record to map. So, can I import it without an LDR record? 00:54 wizzyrea oh my! 00:48 wahanui Since Wed Sep 26 23:44:47 2012, there have been 1396 modifications and 396 questions. I have been awake for 36 days, 1 hour, 3 minutes, 24 seconds this session, and currently reference 22881 factoids. Addressing is in optional mode. 00:48 eythian wahanui: status 00:47 wizzyrea "thingy" must be a technical term 00:47 rangi if you want an accurate one 00:47 rangi you use the dropdown thingy 00:47 wizzyrea whether that's right or not 00:47 eythian that's what I'd expect 00:47 rangi its not even slightly accurate 00:47 wizzyrea i think it gives every item the same LDR 00:47 wizzyrea i'm not sure, however, that its entirely accurate - how could it be you haven't specified anything about the item yet? 00:46 wizzyrea it does 00:44 eythian unless you mean in the Koha cataloguing interface, where I think it just happens when you click, doesn't it? 00:44 eythian the record size is about the only bit that can be. 00:44 eythian not in a meaningful way, it requires semantic information 00:43 eythian surely you jest :) 00:43 mtompset I was wondering if anyone might know if there is a way to auto-magically generate the LDR records in a MARC file. 00:42 mtompset Greetings, #koha. 00:40 wizzyrea ohhhh 00:40 cait and it's still vacation + a holiday today in germany 00:39 wizzyrea sems logical 00:39 cait see :) 00:39 wahanui cait: divide-by-zero error 00:39 wahanui wizzyrea: kernel panic: write-only-memory (/dev/wom0) capacity exceeded. 00:39 cait excuse? 00:39 wizzyrea excuse? 00:39 huginn wizzyrea: I'll give you the answer as soon as RDA is ready 00:39 wizzyrea @excuse 00:39 * wizzyrea wonders why cait isn't in bed. 00:39 kathryn I means sways 00:38 cait ok :) 00:38 cait lol 00:38 * kathryn waves back and bobs along 00:38 wizzyrea i don't know how it goes but it's pretty and melodic. 00:38 cait oh? 00:38 * wizzyrea sings the magic cait greeting song 00:38 * cait waves to kathryn and wizzyrea :) 00:35 wizzyrea I am sure it will be 00:35 kathryn oh wizzyrea....next time it will be you 00:34 wizzyrea lol kathryn 00:22 kathryn well not today. 00:22 kathryn no he's not 00:22 wahanui ...but eythian is a good influence or located somewhere.... 00:22 kathryn wahanui eythian is a pest 00:21 wahanui OK, eythian. 00:21 eythian wahanui: kathryn is on the left of https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-ofqX3S0SPDo/UGIT5sSfE6I/AAAAAAAATng/bQYU5Chf6Qc/s720/ROSS9901.JPG