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23:29 mveron Good night #koha
22:43 huginn mveron: The current temperature in Basel, Basel, Switzerland is 9.7°C (12:40 AM CEST on October 26, 2012). Conditions: Mist. Humidity: 80%. Dew Point: 6.0°C. Windchill: 10.0°C. Pressure: 29.86 in 1011 hPa (Falling).
22:43 mveron @wunder Allschwil
22:39 rangi http://www.stuff.co.nz/entertainment/film/7867560/Weta-Hobbit-sculpture-unveiled-at-airport
22:36 eythian http://ascii.textfiles.com/archives/3724 <-- First annual "Just Solve The Problem" month. This year, file-formats.
22:08 huginn cait1: The current temperature in Konstanz, Germany is 9.0°C (12:00 AM CEST on October 26, 2012). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 92%. Dew Point: 8.0°C. Pressure: 29.92 in 1013 hPa (Falling).
22:08 cait1 @wunder Konstanz
21:40 cait1 hi eythian :)
21:40 eythian hi
21:39 cait1 no kebabs tonight?
21:38 wahanui windows 8 is, like, due in a few days. cool. may it bring us lots of new linux users :)
21:38 slef wahanui: windows 8?
21:21 magnuse have fun, #koha!
21:21 magnuse ok, i'll try again tomorrow
21:19 magnuse jcamins_away: too away for a quick question?
21:11 rangi so=some
21:11 rangi so ppl are allergic to mice
21:11 cait1 not with the /
21:11 ibeardslee yeah unless they are tabbing and typing
21:11 rangi probably not
21:11 cait1 hm not sure it's really faster
21:11 wahanui hmmm... speed is important however.
21:11 rangi speed?
21:11 cait1 with the date picker there is no reason people should type
21:10 rangi the computer cant possibly know what xx12 you mean
21:09 rangi anything else is a guess
21:09 rangi seriously there is no right answer except, use 4 digit years
21:09 cait1 :)
21:09 rangi i vote we should make it set it 3000 years in the future instead
21:08 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8972 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Due Date set to 100 years ago.
21:08 * rangi giggles at bug 8972
20:16 cait1 bye oleonard - have a nice evening
20:16 rangi cya oleonard
20:15 oleonard Bye #koha
20:15 * oleonard will tinker more tomorrow
20:15 oleonard Sorry, bad example
20:14 jcamins_away oleonard: but fetchrow_hashref will only return a single image.
20:12 jcamins_away oleonard: Makes sense to me.
20:12 oleonard I see other examples which simply "return $sth->fetchrow_hashref();"
20:11 oleonard jcamins_away: What about changing ListImagesForBiblio so that it returns @imagenumbers in all cases, rather than returning undef?
20:02 oleonard Uh-yup.
19:56 jcamins_away Really, really weird.
19:56 jcamins_away That's...
19:56 * oleonard swears
19:56 jcamins_away Really?
19:55 oleonard localimages.size = 1
19:55 jcamins_away [% IF ( localimages.size ) %]?
19:55 jcamins_away Check localimages.size?
19:55 jcamins_away weird.
19:54 jcamins_away That's...
19:54 jcamins_away Hmm.
19:52 oleonard sub ListImagesForBiblio returns undef if no images are found, but "$template->{VARS}->{localimages} = \@images;" is passing *something* to the template which is evaluating as true
19:51 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8710 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, NEW , Do not show the images tab in the OPAC if the record has no local cover images
19:51 * oleonard is still perplexed by Bug 8710
19:51 jcamins_away There we go.
19:51 huginn jcamins_away: Quote #184: "slef: IF YOU STARE TOO DEEPLY INTO MARC21, MARC21 STARES BACK INTO YOU!" (added by wizzyrea at 06:58 PM, January 30, 2012)
19:51 jcamins_away @quote get 184
19:51 huginn jcamins_away: 1 found: #184: "slef: IF YOU STARE TOO DEEPLY INTO MARC21,..."
19:51 jcamins_away @quote search stare
19:50 huginn jcamins_away: Error: 'stare' is not a valid id.
19:50 jcamins_away @quote get stare
19:50 huginn jcamins_away: There were no matching configuration variables.
19:50 jcamins_away @search stares
19:50 jcamins_away drojf: same thing.
19:50 wahanui http://marc-must-die.info
19:50 drojf MARC?
19:50 drojf i thought that was MARC staring back at you when you look into it
19:49 wahanui jcamins_away: huh?
19:49 jcamins_away Wahanui has something about the abyss staring back at you, but I don't know where.
19:49 jcamins_away the abyss?
19:49 jcamins_away abyss?
19:49 drojf windows 8 is only 30€. woohoo. bargain.
19:49 jcamins_away the void?
19:49 oleonard That was deep wahanui
19:46 wahanui nothing is a requirement, we have guidelines though
19:46 jcamins_away oleonard: nothing!
19:46 oleonard Gosh is there *anything* a Google Group can't fix?
19:44 jcamins_away drojf: yeah! That'd fix it!
19:43 drojf and an optional google group for digest readers!!1!
19:43 oleonard How can you properly reply to anything if you're subscribed to the digest? It should be read-only.
19:43 * oleonard would make the digest option die if he were king
19:42 jcamins_away "Gee, I think I'd love to receive all of yesterday's messages tomorrow, too!"
19:42 oleonard Uh... You would think? But not in my experience.
19:41 * jcamins_away used e-mail before mail clients automatically hid quoted text. That pretty much taught a person not to include digests.
19:40 mtj ah, ok
19:39 oleonard Webdesign-L
19:38 mtj oleonard, curious …. what was the list?
19:34 oleonard Or maybe unlucky, since now all infractions bug me all the more
19:33 oleonard I'm lucky to have cut my mailing list teeth on a list which was run with an iron fist with regard to etiquette
19:33 jcamins_away Hehe.
19:33 mtj rangi, yeah , its a good one… AND CAN PEOPLE PLEASE STOP SHOUTING IN THIS #IRC CHANNEL!
19:32 jcamins_away oleonard: touche.
19:32 jcamins_away I'd never be able to follow the discussion.
19:32 oleonard Why on earth does someone assume that if you respond to their mailing list message you want to engage them personally in all future exchanges? People simply don't know how to use email.
19:32 * jcamins_away won't be responding to his messages because of the digest-quoting and changed subjects.
19:31 rangi its going in my book :)
19:31 rangi hehe yup :)
19:31 mtj it is a bit of a fail to not edit the herp-derp in your email that asks someone to remove the herp-derp from their email
19:31 rangi no idea
19:30 jcamins_away Why on earth does he change the subject to include the name of the person whose e-mail he is replying to?
19:28 jcamins_away lol
19:28 rangi and probably make as much sense :)
19:28 rangi then it might work
19:28 rangi if you cut and paste 20 pages of herp derp
19:28 mtj a failed reply, to a failed email
19:28 nengard oleonard, i understand it all, but can't explain right now ;)
19:28 jcamins_away Am I the only one who has absolutely no idea what that e-mail is about?
19:28 rangi *nod*
19:28 mtj … but the subtlety of my point is probably lost
19:28 rangi ahh, im not sure that will work
19:27 mtj yeah, i guess i was attempting to show by example, why its a bad thing to do
19:23 oleonard mtj: And revise the subject line?
19:23 rangi you just sent a 38k mail :)
19:23 rangi mtj: you could edit your reply to his reply too
19:23 oleonard I neither understand how your records are getting a vendor id into items.booksellerid or can imagine how you would accommodate manual entry in other cases
19:22 nengard so it's not possible
19:20 oleonard So it's not showing information based on items.booksellerid
19:20 nengard i figured
19:19 oleonard ...but that page pulls the vendor information directly from acquisitions tables based on the item number
19:19 nengard whew :)
19:19 oleonard I see what you mean nengard
19:18 nengard i think i need to go lay down ? and maybe tomorrow i can be clearer about what we're looking for
19:15 nengard i know that, i meant on your system - the items tab on the bib record ? i really shouldn't be talking today
19:15 nengard hehe
19:15 oleonard I can't follow that link nengard
19:14 nengard that's what was confusing the libraries who asked me to report that
19:14 nengard it shows the name not the id
19:14 nengard see //cgi-bin/koha/catalogue/moredetail.pl?biblionumber=4
19:14 oleonard I assume it doesn't
19:13 nengard how does it know on the items tab
19:13 nengard good question
19:13 oleonard Then how is Koha to know whether the value there is a vendor id or a text string which shouldn't be formatted?
19:13 nengard some people use it for things like 'gift' or 'donation'
19:13 nengard and there shouldn't be anything preventing that
19:13 nengard nothing
19:13 oleonard What is to prevent someone from typing a vendor name into "e - Source of acquisition" when adding the item?
19:13 nengard and the lost description instead of the lost authorized value
19:12 nengard just like it shows the collection code description instead of the collection code
19:11 nengard yes, it is and it should be
19:11 nengard i'm kind of jet lagged, but what I'm saying is that the vendor ID should be in the items table in the db - but the name should show in the staff client for those who don't memorize ids
19:10 oleonard And items.booksellerid is a numeric value which corresponds to the vendor id?
19:10 nengard the name is never entered in the holdings table
19:09 nengard the vendor id is entered when you receive ? sorry ? not the vendor name
19:09 oleonard Okay, but eventually you end up with a numeric value in items.booksellerid which corresponds to the vendor id?
19:08 nengard when you receive the price, replacement price and vendor are filled in
19:08 nengard nope, only after you receive
19:07 oleonard nengard: When you add items upon ordering the booksellerid column in items is automatically filled with the vendor id?
19:06 rangi i used to know how it worked, so many people have 'fixed' it since then, i have no idea anymore
19:02 oleonard Or do I misunderstand how it works?
19:02 oleonard When adding an item upon ordering, why is there no relation between the "Cost, normal purchase price" field and the "vendor price" in accounting details?
19:01 oleonard Hi rangi
19:01 rangi morning
18:58 nengard when ordering
18:58 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8676 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, NEW , show vendor name in source of acquisition
18:58 oleonard nengard: When testing Bug 8676 what setting do you have for AcqCreateItem?
18:55 oleonard Why doesn't the acquisitions process automatically fill in the vendor name in "source of acquisition"on the item record?
18:47 oleonard It's okay, it's working again
18:47 jcamins_away oleonard: switch your computer to use git via http?
18:47 oleonard Afternoon git dead zone. *yawn*
18:34 drojf mveron++
18:05 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8914 normal, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Pushed to Master , Blank search that returns invalid authorities fails under Plack
18:05 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8213 major, P5 - low, ---, kyle.m.hall, Pushed to Master , "Cancel All" button on holds over tab cancels both holds over and holds waiting
18:05 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8885 major, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , OPAC with ccsr theme in IE9
18:05 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8234 minor, P5 - low, ---, adrien.saurat, Pushed to Master , Dates are not well sorted on Transfers to receive
18:05 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8895 minor, P5 - low, ---, veron, Pushed to Master , Warning in systempreferences.pl: Use of uninitialized value in length...
18:05 jenkins_koha * jcamins: Bug 8914: Blank search that returns invalid authorities fails under Plack
18:05 jenkins_koha * kyle: Bug 8213 - "Cancel All" button on holds over tab cancels both holds over and holds waiting
18:05 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8905 major, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Pushed to Master , Error when accessing invalid authority
18:05 jenkins_koha * koha: Question marks in series title facet links
18:05 jenkins_koha * veron: Bug 8885 - OPAC with ccsr theme in IE9
18:05 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8910 minor, P5 - low, ---, mtompset, Pushed to Master , silent warnings triggered in about.pl
18:05 jenkins_koha * adrien.saurat: Bug 8234: fixes date sort on 'Transfers to receive' page
18:05 jenkins_koha * Paul Poulain: Bug 8895 follow-up fix for Jonathan's QA comment
18:05 jenkins_koha * veron: Bug 8895 - Warning in systempreferences.pl: Use of uninitialized value in length...
18:05 jenkins_koha * jcamins: Bug 8905: Error when accessing invalid authority
18:05 jenkins_koha * mtompset: Bug 8910 - silent warnings triggered in about.pl
18:05 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #916: SUCCESS in 1 hr 8 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/916/
18:04 * jcamins_away readds the missing line.
18:03 cait1 heh
17:58 drojf what a peaceful channel
17:03 cait1 oleonard: I am all for hot pink with sprinkles
17:03 cait1 because the cat weight matters?
17:03 cait1 Oak_: but if it's kittens it can be more right?
16:56 jenkins_koha Starting build #916 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS)
16:52 Oak_ and no more than 5 pictures of cats.
16:51 Oak_ anything more would be too much.
16:50 Oak_ as long as the animated sparkles are of rainbow colors i'm okay with it.
16:49 Oak_ :)
16:49 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 8914: Blank search that returns invalid authorities fails under Plack <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=ae977a9cfde90f888abd512fac22a7eea6ecf77c> / Bug 8213 - "Cancel All" button on holds over tab cancels both holds over and holds... <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=b81bb697a42471528ba2e139c20afd383cca27de> / Question marks in series title facet links <http:
16:46 oleonard Don't say I didn't warn you!
16:45 oleonard Anyone have an opinion?
16:45 oleonard I'm also planning to change the default staff client template background to hot pink with animated sparkles.
16:41 oleonard Anyone have an opinion?
16:41 oleonard I'm sorely tempted to change the default sort on the hold queue report from patron to call number, considering the librarian would probably search for items by call number
16:12 * drojf packs his stuff and wanders off
16:08 drojf wx? weather+x?
16:08 drojf "Automatic Position Reporting System as a WX NETwork"
16:08 oleonard I assume it's this: http://www.findu.com/citizenweather/
16:06 oleonard Just like it's spelled!
16:06 Oak_ how do you pronounce it?
16:06 jcamins drojf: doesn't it? :)
16:05 drojf "APRSWXNET" sounds like a lovely place
16:05 huginn jcamins: The current temperature in APRSWXNET Jackson Heights NY US, Corona, New York is 15.0°C (11:42 AM EDT on October 25, 2012). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 78%. Dew Point: 11.0°C. Pressure: 30.26 in 1025 hPa (Falling).
16:05 jcamins @wunder 11375
16:05 Oak_ seasons!
16:05 Oak_ :)
16:04 drojf we will be getting frost this weekend.
16:04 huginn Oak_: The current temperature in Islamabad, Pakistan is 18.0°C (9:00 PM PKT on October 25, 2012). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 64%. Dew Point: 11.0°C. Pressure: 29.92 in 1013 hPa (Steady).
16:04 Oak_ @wunder islamabad
16:04 huginn Oak_: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 9.3°C (6:00 PM CEST on October 25, 2012). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 88%. Dew Point: 7.0°C. Windchill: 9.0°C. Pressure: 29.92 in 1013 hPa (Steady).
16:04 Oak_ @wunder konstanz
16:04 huginn drojf: The current temperature in Prenzlauer Berg, Berlin, Germany is 11.2°C (5:42 PM CEST on October 25, 2012). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 71%. Dew Point: 6.0°C. Pressure: 29.77 in 1008 hPa (Steady).
16:04 drojf @wunder berlin, germany
16:03 huginn Oak_: The current temperature in Eckington Pl, NE, Washington, District of Columbia is 17.7°C (12:02 PM EDT on October 25, 2012). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 86%. Dew Point: 15.0°C. Pressure: 30.23 in 1024 hPa (Rising).
16:03 Oak_ @wunder dc
16:02 koyauni Oppes it worked at OPAC side but not in Admin side!
15:59 koyauni I am still struggling with listing and indexing no Latin character in the search result, no one on the network seams to know how to fix it :(
15:57 koyauni there we go it works now :)
15:56 gmcharlt koyauni: yep
15:56 koyauni for OPACXSLTResultsDisplay
15:55 koyauni is default OK as setting
15:51 gmcharlt you can change it in the staff interface by going to Administration | Global system preferences
15:51 gmcharlt koyauni: it's one of the OPAC system preferences
15:51 koyauni where do I find this OPACXSLTResultsDisplay please
15:50 koyauni reindexing did not help, so I check other suggestion here,
15:49 drojf might
15:49 drojf i migh guess "icu"
15:49 jcamins Something you changed caused problems.
15:49 jcamins drojf: not today I won't.
15:49 koyauni I am re-indexing, but it use to work perfectly for Latin character I amnot sure what has happened
15:48 drojf i'm sure you will figure it out
15:47 jcamins Sadly if a reindex doesn't fix it, I have no idea what the next step is.
15:43 jcamins It's always just title.
15:43 jcamins gmcharlt: the title thing happens if you've screwed up your indexes by manually editing them.
15:43 cait1 yeah, so zebra?
15:42 gmcharlt and opac-showmarc.pl in koyauni's catalog is showing MARC21 tagging
15:42 cait1 gmcharlt: you are right, and detail pages too
15:42 gmcharlt cait1: yeah, but the author is being displayed correctly
15:42 jcamins This is probably the result of a Zebra configuration that was mangled.
15:42 cait1 ah, but detail pages are correct
15:42 jcamins gmcharlt: I suspect the problem will still exist there.
15:41 cait1 because marc21 has title in 245$a and unimarc in 200$a
15:41 cait1 it could also be that the wrong marc format is selected
15:41 gmcharlt turning on the OPACXSLTResultsDisplay syspref would be another way of working around the problem
15:41 jcamins koha-rebuild-zebra --full library
15:41 jcamins koyauni: try reindexing.
15:40 gmcharlt that seems a little odd, though
15:40 reiveune bye
15:40 gmcharlt koyauni: at first glance it might be a defect in your MARC frameworks which somehow aren't mapping the 245$a to biblio.title
15:39 oleonard No suggestions for koyauni? I have no idea.
15:30 koyauni hi koha, does any one know why my search result give NO TITLE when list the search please? http://library.koyauniversity.org/cgi-bin/koha/opac-search.pl?q=English
15:27 oleonard It's marked version rel_3_12
15:26 cait1 but we are in string freeze...
15:25 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7067 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle.m.hall, Passed QA , allow patron self registration via the opac
15:25 oleonard Yay, Bug 7067 passes QA!
15:22 * jcamins chuckles at his "bibliographic box of cereal" commit message.
15:20 jcamins Nah, that's fine. I'll file a bug.
15:20 drojf cait1: cookies! :)
15:20 drojf i could try to do it when i'm home if that helps. i think i had problems and used apache to do that
15:19 jcamins drojf: ah.
15:19 drojf so just ignore me ;)
15:19 drojf jcamins: i think i wasn't. but i am really not sure right now
15:19 cait1 drojf: take a cookie
15:18 jcamins Huh.
15:18 jcamins drojf: you were?
15:17 drojf ignore me, i am a confused person
15:16 drojf sorry incoherent thinking :D
15:16 drojf or
15:16 drojf jcamins: i was
15:14 jcamins paul_p: are you able to import records using the staged MARC tools under Plack?
14:53 cait1 that was fast?
14:52 cait1 wow
14:50 rjune thanks all
14:48 rjune found it. system prefs->enhanced content
14:46 drojf i think so
14:44 rjune administration->ehanced content?
14:43 drojf enhanced content
14:43 rjune where in the setup do I enable it?
14:43 drojf local, amazon, google, openlibrary. i may have forgotten something
14:42 drojf it can pull covers from several places
14:41 rjune Can Koha automatically pull covers from someplace, say amazon? or does that have to be done manually?
14:38 rjune fantastic, thanks
14:38 rjune jcamins, ah, where is that controlled?
14:38 jcamins rjune: you can adjust it in the item types administration screen.
14:38 jcamins rjune: I think there might be some sample data that adds that.
14:37 libsysguy i don't think so
14:37 rjune ok, does koha by default charge $5 to check out a book?
14:36 libsysguy sup hdl
14:36 hdl hi libsysguy
14:19 huginn hdl: The operation succeeded.
14:19 hdl @later tell fredericd bug 7421 set to failed QA, things are not working at all the way it used to with grs1 indexing, maybe some pairing could speed things up
14:17 hdl fredericd: around ?
14:08 rjune yeah. that's what I saw. missed that the first time
14:07 rjune nmind, found it.
14:07 cait1 well some of it, but not those parts
14:07 cait1 or reinstall and don't install the sample data
14:07 cait1 and the branches table after that I think
14:07 cait1 you can truncate the borrowers table
14:06 rjune how do I tell koha to dump the default patron and library data?
13:50 cait1 :)
13:49 mveron Hi cait1 :-)
13:49 cait1 hi mveron
13:46 jcamins Leaving it running will just make data corruption more likely.
13:45 jcamins If that's the case, you should shut it down _immediately_.
13:45 jcamins I've had that happen before.
13:45 jcamins vfernandes: that's my guess based on the fact that MySQL can't write to disk.
13:42 vfernandes so I don't know the disk space left
13:42 vfernandes ok... thanks. I don't have access to the mysql server... :/
13:39 jcamins vfernandes: your MySQL server is out of disk space.
13:39 vfernandes can't create/write to file '/var/tmp/mysql....'
13:38 vfernandes DBD::mysql:st execute failed
13:37 tcohen fredericd, has something changed in latest koha-index-daemon that breaks it?
13:36 huginn mveron: The current temperature in Basel, Switzerland is 14.1°C (3:32 PM CEST on October 25, 2012). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 74%. Dew Point: 9.0°C. Pressure: 29.92 in 1013 hPa (Falling).
13:36 mveron @wunder Basel
13:36 mveron Hi #koha
13:36 jwagner vfernandes, I see two items on that title
13:33 jcamins vfernandes: the whole record is getting pulled from the database.
13:32 cait1 that look ok
13:32 cait1 hm but there are other things pulled from the database
13:32 cait1 and the marc views do
13:32 vfernandes the database is in another server
13:31 cait1 the result lists show the items too
13:31 vfernandes it looks like it's a mysql connection problem
13:31 cait1 jcamins: any other ideas? :(
13:30 cait1 ohhm.
13:30 vfernandes the last change on system preferences was at 2012-07-16
13:29 cait1 there seems to be nothing in opacuserjs causing this, so it's koha somehow doing it
13:29 cait1 hm I owuld still think something like opachiddenitems
13:29 cait1 yes, title in 200
13:29 vfernandes yes
13:28 cait1 vfernandes: hm this is unimarc, right?
13:27 jcamins ^^ good idea
13:27 cait1 you could check action_logs if someone hcanged preferences since yesterday :)
13:27 jcamins vfernandes: something must have changed. Any idea what it was?
13:27 vfernandes and no configuration was changed
13:27 vfernandes yesterday was working fine
13:27 vfernandes i don't think so
13:26 cait1 or the parameter to hide damaged/lost items?
13:26 cait1 did you set something in opachiddenitems maybe?
13:26 cait1 they are in the marc view
13:26 cait1 http://catalogo.biblioteca.iscte-iul.pt/cgi-bin/koha/opac-MARCdetail.pl?biblionumber=3185
13:26 vfernandes the items are in the database... i've already checked
13:26 jcamins Indexing only affects search results.
13:25 jcamins No, nothing to do with indexing.
13:25 jcamins cait1: oh, true.
13:25 vfernandes maybe a index problem?
13:25 cait1 jcamins: I think the detail screens go back to the item tables - so maybe worth checking the database tables?
13:25 vfernandes the records are in the MARC, i've checked the database are the items are also in the items table
13:24 jcamins You're using 3.2, which means that items are stored in the MARC record.
13:24 jcamins vfernandes: if I had to guess, I'd say you somehow managed to delete your items.
13:24 vfernandes should have 2 items
13:24 vfernandes http://catalogo.biblioteca.iscte-iul.pt/cgi-bin/koha/opac-detail.pl?biblionumber=3185
13:24 vfernandes neither in OPAC
13:23 cait1 all items or only some? what has happened between them showing and them not showing?
13:23 cait1 and in opac they do?
13:22 cait1 vfernandes: hm they don't appear on the detal page in staff?
13:22 vfernandes anyone had this problem before?
13:21 rjune ok, so it should be http://koha-intra.DOMAIN/ as per the docs
13:21 jcamins With /etc/koha/sites.conf or whatever it is.
13:20 jcamins rjune: it's whatever you set it to several steps before.
13:20 rjune so where is the admin website? is it port 8080 someplace? is it something.domain
13:20 cait1 speaking about it... we should probably revise the INSTALL files before release?
13:19 jcamins oleonard: generally it has made it worse.
13:19 rjune oleonard, both
13:19 vfernandes hi guys... today happened one problem with one of my Koha instance... the items appears doesn't appear in the staff client record detail
13:19 oleonard Lots of work has been done on the instructions over the last few months. Is it incomplete or ineffective?
13:19 rjune Which is stupid.
13:19 rjune Like the debian instructions. "Creating the koha instance" here's the command to create it. Now go to the admin website
13:18 jcamins And C) comprehensible.
13:18 rjune but they have to be A) maintained. and B) complete
13:18 rjune Installation instructions are great.
13:17 rjune spiked with mint liquer
13:15 * cait1 hands jcamins a hot chocolate
13:15 jcamins Unfortunately, people with more time than I have disagree, and keep on adding new pages that confuse the matter.
13:14 * jcamins thinks they serve no useful purpose.
13:13 * jcamins has been arguing for removing most of the installation instructions for years.
13:13 jcamins rjune: oh, certainly.
13:13 cait1 gerundio: also try openlibrary
13:13 jcamins gerundio: you don't need an API key for covers. And if you enable more than one source, all will show up.
13:13 rjune jcamins, can you see how I might have made that mistake?
13:13 cait1 gerundio: you can get covers without I think, not sure, I would try it out
13:12 tcohen morning #koha
13:12 jcamins Precise and Debian are equivalent.
13:12 jcamins rjune: Lucid requires special instructions.
13:12 gerundio AWS requires an API key, right?
13:12 rjune jcamins, installing on precise. instructions are both very similar. One claims Debian, one Claims Ubuntu I went with the ubuntu ones
13:11 gerundio ok cait1, thanks
13:11 cait1 gerundio: they don't fall back, I think works probably best with only one activated
13:10 gerundio ok, and is there any predefined order, alphabetical as shown in the admin interface maybe?
13:08 jcamins gerundio: no.
13:08 jcamins However, I agree.
13:08 jcamins rjune: it's correct for Lucid.
13:08 jcamins rjune: what are you trying to do? There shouldn't be any need to edit that.
13:08 rjune jcamins, then the incorrect page should probably be removed.
13:08 gerundio jcamins, are the various 3rd party services set to work in fail over?
13:07 jcamins gerundio: it depends on your data.
13:07 gerundio I activated the Google Books cover fetch and it's already showing up some results
13:07 wahanui packages is at http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Debian
13:07 jcamins packages?
13:07 jcamins rjune: you should be following the instructions that cait pointed you to.
13:06 gerundio from your experience what would you say is the best combo to get the most amount of covers in Koha?
13:06 rjune jcamins, followed http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Koha_on_Lucid_using_Koha_packages. Nothing with koha in /etc/apache2 anywhere
13:04 jcamins rjune: the usual place. /etc/apache2/sites-available
13:03 rjune ok, I installed the packages. Where does it put it's apache config?
13:03 cait1 now mine dropped
13:03 cait1 hm
13:01 cait libsysguy: it's ok :)
13:00 libsysguy you said Hi and my internet dropped out
13:00 libsysguy sorry I missed you yesterday
13:00 libsysguy hey cait
13:00 cait and hi libsysguy
12:58 cait hi gmcharlt :)
12:58 cait gut, danke :)
12:57 rjune cait, Wie gehts?
12:55 gmcharlt good morning
12:49 cait Southern Germany
12:48 talljoy hi magnuse
12:48 cait ah
12:47 magnuse hiya talljoy
12:47 rjune cait, Northern Indiana
12:37 cait rjune: where are you from?
12:35 rjune I'll have to setup a fedora vm to work on
12:35 rjune LOL
12:35 jcamins :)
12:34 jcamins (hint hint)
12:34 jcamins We'd love to, though.
12:34 jcamins We don't have any RPMs for Koha.
12:34 rjune I packaged quite a few rpms
12:34 rjune yeah, played with it a bit, but I haven't really needed it yet.
12:33 jcamins rjune: it's very easy.
12:30 rjune I really need to learn how to package debs
12:29 rjune me likey packages
12:29 cait and packages will ake your life easier :)
12:29 wahanui packages is at http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Debian
12:29 cait packages?
12:29 cait download?
12:29 cait the current stable release of Koha is 3.8 - soon there will be 3.10
12:28 rjune No worries. I wanted the community one.
12:28 cait the version numbering is confusing
12:28 cait rjune: Liblime created a fork from koha that is only maintained by them - there is no community around it
12:28 jcamins The software you download from koha.org is a proprietary fork that no one here supports.
12:28 rjune LOL
12:28 jcamins rjune: yes. You can get Koha from koha-community.org.
12:28 cait rjune: you can download Koha from koha-community.org
12:28 rjune jcamins, Koha the ILS right
12:27 cait good moring jcamins
12:27 jcamins What you have is LibLime Koha.
12:27 jcamins rjune: this is a channel for Koha.
12:26 rjune I'm trying to setup koha 4.10.05 on Ubuntu 12.04 LTS I ran perl Makefile.PL. and did the export for the environment variables. But when I run plackup /opt/koha/etc/app.psgi I get the error "Error while loading /opt/koha/etc/app.psgi: Can't locate Koha.pm in @INC (@INC contains: /opt/koha/lib /etc/perl /usr/local/ ..." Can anybody point me in the right direction
12:19 cait karam++
11:17 cait ok - so that at least makes sense now :)
11:16 gerundio explain later :)
11:16 gerundio cait, my bad, the subscriptions table has records
10:59 cait you should be able to see the subscription id in one of the views
10:59 gerundio let me check a few other things and see if I come up with a reason for this behavior
10:58 cait on the page below should be links to other "views" of the serial data
10:58 gerundio weird indeed
10:58 gerundio I'm following you on that
10:58 cait it looks perfectly normal for a filled subscriptions table
10:57 gerundio cait, I can't share a link since the installations are still hidden behind firewall rules
10:57 cait because you see it says: 1 subscription associated
10:57 cait gerundio: that's very werid
10:57 gerundio screenshot from the previous koha setup at http://i.imgur.com/atXvs.png
10:56 drojf [off] i wish "all the users in the arab world" would wish less and hire a support company for enhancements they would like to see once in a while. can't be too hard if they are that many people.
10:53 cait or as creenshot?
10:53 cait can you share a link?
10:52 gerundio yet the series show up in the origin OPAC view
10:52 cait i could imagine someone testing and not cleaning up properly too
10:52 cait and it does show up right on the previous opac?
10:52 gerundio not in my DB nor in the origin one
10:52 cait ew
10:52 gerundio but there's no record in the subscription table
10:52 gerundio subscriptionid is set to 2
10:51 gerundio ok
10:50 cait you can only add them in the interface when you have a subscription - so if that table is empty on your other installation, something is wrong or someone changed how koha works
10:50 cait serialid - pk of the table, bilbionumber for the record and subscriptionid for the subscription
10:50 cait see the subscriptionid is column 3
10:49 cait I wonder how someone managed to add them to your old installation without
10:49 cait gerundio: they are linked to subscriptions normally
10:48 gerundio since they are related by the biblionumber value for each record
10:48 gerundio I thought that the serials would 'auto-magically' show up in the respective biblio entries in OPAC
10:48 gerundio imported ^
10:45 gerundio I import records for the 'serials' table
10:42 cait what exactly did you do? :)
10:42 cait or about entries in serials?
10:41 cait are we talking about items in the items table
10:41 cait hm
10:39 gerundio so I'm guessing that's not the case
10:39 gerundio the origin subscriptions table is empty
10:39 gerundio btw, can it be related to zebra indexes not being up to date yet?
10:39 cait did you get the subsciptions?
10:38 cait the issues are linked to the subscription
10:38 cait there are serials, subscriptions, something for the history and serialitems I think
10:38 gerundio but somehow the serial issues are not showing up in my new koha installation
10:38 cait I think maybe youmissed a table if it's not working?
10:37 cait ah ok
10:37 gerundio made sure the biblionumber matched
10:37 cait there is the history table you can use for noting holdings before using the serials module
10:37 gerundio so in my case I made a dump from an existing koha installation
10:37 gerundio ok
10:37 cait every system deals with them differently
10:37 cait there is no iport script for serial issues
10:36 cait I am afraid that's not an easy answer
10:36 cait ok
10:36 cait aah
10:36 gerundio right?
10:36 gerundio which means I have add around 1000 entries to the 'serial' table for that magazine
10:35 gerundio for this example lets say its has a weekly release since 1992
10:34 gerundio I imported some magazine records into my catalogue
10:34 gerundio ok, I'll try to explain it in more words :D
10:34 cait sorry, gerundio - not sure I understand what you want to do
10:33 gerundio cait, is there anyway in the koha admin interface to import serials for magazine publication for instance?
10:27 cait cool, thx rangi
10:21 rangi http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Bug_Reporting_Guidelines#Severity
10:13 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8969 normal, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Error while adding a repeatable holiday on the tools Calendar
10:13 gerundio bug 8969
10:07 cait gerundio: true, but we can't stop trying
10:07 cait gerundio: if there is none for calendar or holidays - then tools :)
10:06 gerundio no matter the effort we put in documentation it never seems to be enough :|
10:06 gerundio cait, that's probably a good idea
10:06 gerundio btw, the Component should be Tools, right?
10:06 * cait makes a note
10:05 cait wiki.
10:05 cait we should put some explanations somewhere easily accessible
10:05 cait probably :)
10:05 gerundio cait, got it :) each software as its own bug severity rules
10:05 cait ... and wish even more that I had been to Te Papa!
10:04 cait I wish I knew what those things are :)
10:03 slef Random aside: A bit disappointed yesterday to learn that there's a Big Ted, Hamble, Jemima and Humpty in Te Papa, which I didn't see when in NZ.
09:58 cait like losing data
09:58 rangi blocker is only for something that would stop a release
09:58 rangi yeah
09:58 cait hm normal I would think
09:58 rangi way lower than blocker
09:57 gerundio or despite it, since is not a major feature, the severity should be lower than that?
09:57 gerundio as it throws this kind of error
09:57 gerundio in this case do you find it to be blocker?
09:56 gerundio I don't really know the severity you guys consider of each kind of bug
09:54 gerundio sure
09:53 cait but you will be able to add holidays - which is good. but could you maybe file a bug too for the wrong behaviour?
09:53 gerundio but yes, it shouldn't throw that error
09:53 gerundio I missed the "Holiday repeated yearly on the same date."
09:52 cait it shouldn't explode
09:52 gerundio my bad on choosing the wrong option
09:52 gerundio yes
09:52 cait you want single repeated holiday, there should be 2 options to choose from
09:52 gerundio in January 1st 2013
09:52 cait did you click on "range" maybe?
09:52 gerundio I just tried addind the New Year's Day as a holiday
09:51 pastebot "gerundio" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "Error while addind a repeatable holiday" (6 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/250
09:50 cait so what did you try and what happened?
09:50 gerundio let me paste the error, just a second
09:50 gerundio 3.8
09:50 cait which version are you looking at?
09:50 cait oh
09:50 cait thre has been a lot of work done on hourly loans and related features -not so familiar with that yet
09:50 gerundio I'm trying to add repeatable holidays and I got a nasty error :|
09:50 cait hm a bit, but it depends what you want to know :)
09:49 Maxie2012 I have a .iso file....but when I try to add the downloaded disk image boot on my virtual machine (Settings and Storage on VirtualBox), TWO messages appear saying "Failed to open the CD/DVD image" and "Could not get the storage format of the medium (VERR _NOT_SUPPORTED)
09:49 gerundio cait, are you familiar with the Calendar tool in koha?
09:49 gerundio Maxie2012, :)
09:44 Maxie2012 oh so sorry!! I just realised I inactivated the wrong thing re the hidden extensions!
09:43 cait Maxie2012: winzip is not really a file format - it might be .iso is associated with the winzip software on your computer
09:40 Maxie2012 it comes out at ONE zipped file with no extension, but under the File Type description it says WinZip file.....debian-6.0.6-i386-DVD-1...it also has the WinZip icon beside the filename
09:36 gerundio so if the extensions aren't hidden, tell us, what is the complete filename you see?
09:35 Maxie2012 gerundio: I'll try the links you mention and try again
09:33 Maxie2012 no...I have already deactivated the Hide extensions and no .iso...
09:32 cait gerundio: good idea :)
09:31 gerundio hopefully you'll see that the file you've downloaded is indeed a .iso :D
09:31 gerundio follow these instructions to deactivate the "Hide extensions for known file types" setting http://windows.microsoft.com/en-US/windows-vista/Show-or-hide-file-name-extensions
09:30 gerundio do you see any endings (extensions) at all in any of your regular files?
09:30 gerundio the problem is that probably you have hidden extensions in your windows explorer
09:29 gerundio Maxie2012, they might have .iso ending
09:29 cait I am sure there is a lot on google
09:29 cait just a tutorial that will guide you for installing something with virtualbox
09:28 Maxie2012 what's a "basic virtualbox install linux thing"?
09:28 cait you can then start to learn a bit about linux itself
09:28 Maxie2012 the problem is I've tried a few downloads today and none of them have a .iso ending
09:28 cait I would start for a basic virtualbox install linux thing and go from there once you get it running
09:27 cait there are tutorials on the web
09:27 Maxie2012 so what should I do? I only know Windows....help!!
09:27 cait and then you use that with your virtualbox
09:27 cait hm you should end up with a file that has a .iso ending
09:26 Maxie2012 ok...that explains it
09:25 cait ah
09:25 cait Maxie2012: you don't unzip isos
09:24 Maxie2012 I don't think I got the right link somehow....:(
09:24 Maxie2012 the thing is I'm now stuck on trying to download the Debian Squeeze ISO...I just managed to download a file from http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/current/i386/iso-dvd/, but its in a WinZip file and I can Unzip it in Windows!
09:22 Maxie2012 the URLs helped a lot...I managed to install VirtualBox!
09:20 Maxie2012 I decided to take your suggestion and try to install Koha within Windows
09:19 Maxie2012 Hi gerundio
09:19 gerundio Maxie2012, did those URLs help?
09:06 gerundio them follow these instructions in case you have any doubt: http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/installmanual
09:05 gerundio just choose one of them, 32 or 64 bit setup
09:04 gerundio Maxie2012, I think the correct link for the Debian download you're looking for is http://www.debian.org/CD/http-ftp/
09:03 slef (where are they?)
09:03 slef Maxie2012: but I've not checked the VirtualBox installation instructions.
09:02 slef Maxie2012: I doubt it. I'd expect you could just download one of the mini-install ISOs.
08:49 Maxie2012 I found a link and it seems to have the ISO files for download, but there are 8 files of about 4GB each. Do I need to download ALL 8 files?
08:47 Maxie2012 I was actually looking for the site where I can download the Debian ISO so that I can install it via the VirtualBox
08:46 slef Maxie2012: I've not used Windows much in years. I don't know if someone else awake here might have relevant experience. If not, try looking for a guide on the wiki or askingon the mailing lists or equivalent web forums.
08:45 wahanui mailing lists are at http://koha-community.org/support/koha-mailing-lists/
08:45 slef Maxie2012: mailing lists?
08:45 wahanui rumour has it wiki is http://wiki.koha-community.org
08:45 slef Maxie2012: wiki?
08:43 Maxie2012 Can someone advise me on where is the best place to go to for this...on the premise that I am on Windows 7....?
08:42 Maxie2012 I am trying to install the Debian Squeeze in VirtualBox, on my Windows 7 desktop PC. I have managed to install the VirtualBox and am now trying to download the Debian ISO file in order for me to install Koha
08:37 slef I misread that as "Bible AS Daily"
08:35 tweetbot` [off] twitter: @mikromarc: "The Bibits AS Daily is out! http://t.co/Ys8A4TGL â–¸ Top stories today via @kohails @oclcdevnet"
08:31 gerundio good morning
08:17 Maxie2012 Hi!
08:16 cait I am not making much sense this morning :)
08:13 cait I mean it seems they are not just starting, but there is already work done
08:12 cait he writes he wants to contribute translated files - so it might be worth including them in 3.10 I think
08:12 cait it's here: http://lists.koha-community.org/pipermail/koha-translate/2012-October/001968.html
08:10 fredericd no
08:10 cait fredericd: have you seen the request for slovak as a new language on pootle?
08:09 cait :)
08:05 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8968 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , JavaScript String not translatable
08:05 fredericd bug 8968
08:03 cait I think we could have an omnibus bug
08:02 fredericd opac-results.tt line 126
08:02 cait did you try reloading the javascript? I sometimes had problems with scale files
08:02 fredericd Shouldn't we have such a bug number?
08:02 cait oh, I thought it used to be
08:02 fredericd 'Add to cart' on OPAC result page is not translated
08:02 cait I think most were on separate bugs
08:01 cait hm, I think we didn't have an omnibus patch in the past - but I might be wrong
08:01 fredericd cait: Is there a bug number for javascript strings non translatable?
08:01 cait hi fredericd :)
08:01 fredericd cait: hello
07:06 magnuse winter came last night...
07:05 lds hello
07:05 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 0.0°C (8:50 AM CEST on October 25, 2012). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 44%. Dew Point: -11.0°C. Windchill: -7.0°C. Pressure: 29.36 in 994 hPa (Steady).
07:05 magnuse @wunder boo
07:02 matts hi !
06:52 wahanui hi, asaurat
06:52 asaurat hi
06:51 wahanui bonjour, julian_m
06:51 julian_m hello
06:40 magnuse kia ora #koha
06:36 wahanui bonjour, alex_a
06:36 alex_a bonjour
06:36 reiveune hello
06:24 Maxie2012 sorry to have to ask such BASIC questions
06:24 Maxie2012 can I ask you before you go home.....for the hard drive file type, is VDI or VMDK the better option?
06:23 Maxie2012 oh you're still there eythian!
06:22 fredericd eythian: great. And thanks for your work. The new package for just the Koha dependencies is a big plus for me.
06:22 Maxie2012 Bye eythian
06:15 Maxie2012 thanks, but I just clicked on a Hide Description button and it allows me to specify the size of the hard drive!
06:09 * eythian is off home now. Bye all
06:08 eythian fredericd: my plan is to add the indexing daemon as an optional dep, and when we get a feeling for what people think, we can consider pulling your daemon into Koha.
06:07 Maxie2012 ...and there's a statement above the options saying that the Recommended Size of the Hard Drive is 8GB
06:07 eythian Maxie2012: yes, and if you create a new one it asks you for the size.
06:06 Maxie2012 It just prompts me to select between 1. Do Not Add a virtual hard drive 2. Create a virtual hard drive now 3. Use an existing hard drive file
06:06 eythian fredericd: oh, I just saw your post. A patch that adds moose as an optional dep is actually in master now
06:01 eythian It should ask you during the process of setting up the vm
06:00 Maxie2012 ya, I kinda felt it was a bit small...but I'm setting up VirtualBox for the first time and creating a new virtual machine, so it doesn't allow me to specify the size...guess there's another section to do that
05:58 eythian Maxie2012: I find 8GB can get a bit tight, I'd suggest 15. It depends on the size of your data though.
05:57 Maxie2012 I plan to install Debian Squeeze, which is Debian (64-bit) I'm assuming...and I guess 8GB virtual harddisk capacity is fine?
05:56 eythian fredericd: I did that too, it's just we were discussing it earlier today, so I figured I'd provide a headsup so he knew I wouldn't be able to look at it for a while.
05:55 Maxie2012 great, thanks!
05:55 fredericd and see your bug report
05:55 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8773 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Failed QA , Add per-instance koha-index-daemon in .deb setup
05:55 fredericd eythian: just leave a comment on bug 8773
05:52 huginn eythian: The operation succeeded.
05:52 eythian @later tell tcohen I've found an issue on bug 8773, but I'm out of time to diagnose it today. Can you have a look, hopefully it's an easy fix.
05:45 eythian Maxie2012: if you're setting it up for testing, that should be fine
05:43 Maxie2012 Hi! Apologies to anyone reading my query earlier on re setting up of VirtualBox....my internet connection dropped off!
05:29 Maxie2012 sorry...I meant 384MB RAM...
05:29 Maxie2012 How much RAM do I need....is the recommended 384RAM sufficient?
05:28 Maxie2012 Hi! Anyone can help me with installing VirtualBox? I want to set it up so I can install Linux Debian, Apache etc. so that I then install Koha....
03:26 Oak :)
03:26 cjh heh
03:25 * Oak waves
03:25 huginn Oak: Error: No such location could be found.
03:25 Oak @wunder ny
03:23 eythian (although they still don't build out of the box, just yet. One more patch.)
03:23 eythian master packages built and uploading, second day in a row :)
01:31 cait night all
01:24 cait :)
01:23 cjh cait: have to transfer that karma over :)
01:23 cjh cait++
01:15 cait heh
01:15 huginn cait: Karma for "cait1" has been increased 2 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 2.
01:15 cait @karma cait1
01:14 cait1 eythian: :)
01:14 eythian cait1: you are not good at this holiday thing
01:13 rangi now go to sleep
01:13 rangi cait1++
01:11 cait1 from resolved fixed to closed fixed
01:10 cait1 closed around 1000 bugs
01:10 cait1 ok
00:10 drojf now it's gone. maybe the blocking addon was just confused
00:10 cait1 oh?
00:09 drojf meh
00:09 drojf i can't make it stop using the yahoo server
00:09 cait1 3127