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23:40 tweetbot` [off] twitter: @IrmaLibraries: "#kohails Search becomes less prominent & browse becomes useful thanks to image feeds when Koha's OPACShelfBrowser sys preference is enabled"
23:14 eythian yeah, that'll do it I suppose
23:14 cait it's better now since it's colder - closed windows maybe
23:14 cait lol
23:13 eythian you're going to miss your sourkraut when you're away!
23:13 cait heh
23:13 eythian no promises
23:13 cait send it back in time, will you?
23:12 cait ah? well, that explains
23:12 eythian night time will do that, the sun is currently over here.
23:12 cait but apart from that ok :)
23:12 cait eythian: hm bit dark outside
23:03 eythian how is it so far?
23:02 cait I am on vacation.
23:02 eythian hi cait
23:02 cait it is
23:02 jcamins cait: isn't it a bit late?
23:01 cait eythian++ :)
23:01 jcamins eythian++
23:01 jcamins Yay!
23:01 eythian going to do 3.6.10 today
23:01 eythian jcamins: I did it last night even :)
22:58 jcamins eythian++
22:56 jcamins Thanks.
22:56 jcamins Ah, you did.
22:55 jcamins eythian: have you I bugged you about packaging 3.8.6 yet?
21:33 huginn eythian: The operation succeeded.
21:33 eythian @later tell wizzyrea here is something you should get when you're here: http://www.stuff.co.nz/dominion-post/news/local-papers/the-wellingtonian/641459/
21:27 eythian hi
20:29 cait :)
20:29 kathryn (and very excited about Liz's arrival)
20:29 kathryn talking to quite a few libraries about Koha at the moment, find myself troubled deciding who needs talking to first sometimes!
20:28 cait thx :) hows things in the future?
20:27 kathryn awesome, go you, enjoy!
20:27 cait starting a long vacation tonight :)
20:27 cait good :)
20:26 kathryn hows things?
20:26 cait hi kathryn! :)
20:26 kathryn hi #koha :) especially you cait!
20:22 mveron cait: Can you have a look at circulation.pref#AgeRestrictionMarker# ...? I did my best :-)
20:13 cait pf
20:11 drojf i expect the translation to be done when i come back :P
20:10 mveron drojf: Gute Nacht!
20:10 cait ok, I am being mean - have a good night :)
20:10 cait drojf: vacation! :P
20:10 mveron cait: Will do :-)
20:09 drojf i'm done for tonight, will go to sleep soon. need a more day-ish rhythm
20:09 * mveron is on staff, around quotes (Zitate, nicht Notizen)
20:09 * cait thinks this should be translated by mveron: circulation.pref#AgeRestrictionMarker# E.g. enter target audience keyword(s) split by | (bar) FSK|PEGI|Age| (No white space near |). Be sure to map agerestriction in Koha to MARC mapping (e.g. 521$a). A MARC field value of FSK 12 or PEGI 12 would mean: Borrower must be 12 years old. Leave empty to not apply an age restriction.
20:09 cait are you 2 on staff?
20:09 mveron :-)
20:09 cait i am working on pref
20:09 drojf mveron is following me closely
20:07 cait I am already translating right now - and it IS boring
20:07 cait lol
20:06 drojf vacation! don't forget to pack a nice piece of translation so you don't get bored ;)
20:05 cait vacation!!! free cookies for everyone!
20:04 cait and have a good evening!
20:04 cait thx oleonard :)
20:04 oleonard Ah well, more tomorrow I guess. Bye #koha. Have a good vacation cait
20:03 reiveune bye
20:02 cait lol
20:02 rangi https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dddAi8FF3F4
20:02 cjh oleonard: oh wow
20:01 * oleonard is trying to figure out how much of this javascript is simply junk, and it seems like a lot of it is
20:01 cait it's a trap? ;)
20:01 rangi phew
20:00 oleonard Only I don't think it actually does anything
20:00 jcamins Wow.
20:00 rangi oh dear god
20:00 cait eew
20:00 oleonard This also makes me nervous: <input type="hidden" name="valid_session" value="1" />
19:59 cait it's faster sometimes when scanning if you don't have to put the scanner down to type or click something
19:59 cait actually you can do some cool things if oyu have one at your station anyway
19:59 oleonard So perhaps "magic barcode" isn't the most descriptive comment possible
19:59 * cjh already has 2 on his desk
19:59 cait cjh: lol
19:58 cjh heh, in 5 years from now, mice will be a thing of the past, everyone will use barcode scanners.
19:58 cait lol
19:58 rangi about it being js though
19:58 rangi i stand by my eeewww
19:58 rangi ah right
19:58 cait I was not sure if that explanation worked heh
19:58 oleonard Yes I think cait is right, because submitting that value logs you out
19:58 cait oh happy you got what I wanted to say
19:58 cjh cait: that is a very cool idea
19:58 * jcamins thinks cait is probably right.
19:57 cjh heh barcode logic in js
19:57 cait you could control it with that?
19:57 cait so if you had no mouse but only a barcode reader at the station with a piece of paper with special barcodes...
19:56 rangi eeewwww
19:56 oleonard It's in JS rangi
19:56 cait what happens if you scan it? does it start another function?
19:56 rangi something set in sysprefs or config
19:56 rangi && $debug or something
19:56 cait I have an idea, but I am not sure if I am totally off
19:56 rangi that needs a
19:56 cait hm
19:56 cait it's magic!!
19:55 oleonard if (barcode == "__KOHA_NEW_CIRC__") { // magic barcode
19:55 rangi sure sounds like it to me
19:55 oleonard Why does self-checkout check for the barcode "__KOHA_NEW_CIRC__" upon submission? Something left over from testing?
19:23 wahanui mtj is DeM KraZy NutZ!!
19:23 oleonard mtj?
19:21 rangi i think so, post the elections
19:20 oleonard Was someone going to try to get the license issue on the agenda at an IRC meeting?
19:18 rangi yep
19:18 oleonard Just the license which is an issue with Koha?
19:17 rangi so its just the license eh
19:17 rangi yay!
19:17 cait :) yay!
19:17 * oleonard tests Bootstrap pages in Firefox 3.6 and finds nothing which doesn't work
19:01 rangi https://secure.flickr.com/photos/denee/3597100692/
19:01 rangi now wizzyrea can get this poster
18:56 cait wb
18:55 rangi back
18:50 tweetbot` [off] twitter: @kohails: "#kohails Koha 3.6.10 released http://t.co/QzDNjyrW"
18:44 huginn jcamins: The operation succeeded.
18:44 jcamins @later tell wizzyrea Great picture of Spud with the luggage.
18:44 jcamins That's a cute picture of Spud with the luggage- it's almost as tall as he is!
18:44 rangi Bbiab
18:26 rangi Hmm busy bus today
18:22 huginn rangi: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 8.0Â°C (7:00 AM NZDT on October 24, 2012). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 81%. Dew Point: 5.0Â°C. Windchill: 4.0Â°C. Pressure: 30.06 in 1018 hPa (Falling).
18:22 rangi @wunder nzwn
18:19 drojf morning rangi
18:19 cait morning rangi :)
18:19 wahanui well, Morning is a state of mind. or whenever the cat wants breakfast.
18:19 rangi Morning
18:19 jcamins drojf: very nice.
18:19 cait drojf: lol too :)
18:19 cait jcamins: lol
18:19 drojf i'm looking forward to the cookie-based version naming. "koha chocolate chip catnip cookie"
18:15 gmcharlt species self interest and all that
18:15 oleonard Daily string and feature freezes during nap time
18:15 drojf and then follows "more focus on the online public access CATalog"
18:15 gmcharlt who better than a cat to make sure no patch falls on the floor
18:15 jcamins Ah, and from on high comes his second commandment: "you will curry my majestic fur EVERY SINGLE HOUR!"
18:14 huginn gmcharlt: The operation succeeded.
18:14 gmcharlt @later tell eythian send me the SSH key(s) you want to use for access to the pony^Wrepo as well as what you want the repo called, please
18:14 jcamins Myshkin too.
18:14 dracoling I LOVE the duck food.
18:13 jcamins Myshkin: "my first act as RM will be to demand that I be given the duck food EVERY SINGLE DAY."
18:13 * jcamins scurries to groom someone else to be RM.
18:12 cait oleonard: all makes sense now...
18:12 gmcharlt heh
18:11 jcamins oleonard: damn fine plan. Wish I'd thought of it.
18:11 * oleonard understands rangi's nefarious plan now... Hire wizzyrea, groom her to be RM, never have to be RM again
18:11 chris_n then we could limit what pages could be accessed as well
18:11 chris_n a set of perms applicable to the self checkout user would probably not be a bad idea
18:10 jcamins Yes, that's what I was thinking of.
18:10 * chris_n hates it when his patrons decide to mess around and search opac under the self-checkout user
18:10 oleonard I guess the problem is that the self checkout user isn't strictly "logged in"
18:09 oleonard I should change that bug to be "self checkout should limit EVERYTHING to logged-in patron"
18:09 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7550 normal, P5 - low, ---, koha.sekjal, NEW , Self checkout should limit display of patron image to logged-in patron
18:09 oleonard Maybe you're thinking of Bug 7550 jcamins?
18:08 jcamins I could be mistaken.
18:08 jcamins Hehe.
18:08 drojf heh
18:08 * chris_n checks his card to be sure his name is not "random dude"
18:08 oleonard Oh no my memory was re-set again. How much time did I lose? Is it still 2009?
18:07 jcamins I think you filed the bug, actually.
18:07 jcamins I think.
18:07 jcamins oleonard: there's a bug filed about that.
18:07 * oleonard uses firebug to change the card number and check out to some other random dude
18:06 oleonard So, the self checkout system checks the book out to whatever card number is in a hidden field? That seems not secure at all :|
17:45 libsysguy :p
17:45 libsysguy for someone else's work
17:45 libsysguy well oleonard++
17:44 oleonard I did, based on someone else's work
17:44 libsysguy if you did, its cool
17:44 libsysguy oleonard did you do the addbiblio thing that makes the change framework follow you down the page
17:41 maximep heh
17:41 maximep maybe there's just something different in master than what we use
17:40 drojf lol
17:40 maximep that's why those gradients have like 12 fallbacks :p
17:39 kf bye all :)
17:39 maximep sure
17:39 drojf it's IE, so you have to try all installations on earth, not all versions
17:38 maximep *in all IE
17:37 maximep and removing those lines will remove the grading in all is < 10 :S
17:36 maximep works fine in ie9 here :S
17:36 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8885 major, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Signed Off , OPAC with ccsr theme in IE9
17:36 maximep I don't understand bug 8885
17:32 mveron kf: You are right: Overall queue priority:
17:31 drojf mveron: ok
17:30 kf with the syspref to show priority on detail
17:30 drojf did not pay attention to the actual string
17:30 kf I htink maybe the holds list or the detail page
17:30 mveron I am on master
17:30 drojf true
17:30 kf shouldn't that be queue?
17:30 kf hm
17:30 drojf mveron: you might need 3.10 installed for that?
17:29 kf that is werid
17:29 kf jcamins: changing to 120% doesn't make much of a change for me
17:28 * mveron does not find "Overall que priority:" in his Opac, just to get the context...
17:27 kf it's getting really late here and I had to solve this
17:27 kf oleonard: thanks for your help!
17:27 * kf gives cookies to the busy translators
17:26 oleonard Looks good to me kf
17:26 drojf i think you translated more than i did for the last version :)
17:26 mveron :-)
17:26 drojf just kidding ;)
17:26 mveron No no...
17:25 drojf mveron: or are you just waiting for us to do german so you can mooch the swiss search+replace translation off of us? :P
17:25 kf oleonard: you think it looks ok now?
17:25 mveron Ok, I give it a try :-)
17:24 drojf mveron: i already translated the incredible number of 89 strings, your turn ;)
17:21 kf oh you are right
17:21 jcamins In Chrome it looks quite reasonable at 100%.
17:21 jcamins Try 110%?
17:21 kf hopefully
17:21 kf oleonard: I think everything in proportion should work
17:20 kf and I agree that it's ab it small in firefox
17:20 kf but the library requested the font-size to be a bit bigger
17:20 kf jcamins: it looks fine in ie
17:19 jcamins kf: using font: 100%... doesn't work in IE?
17:18 huginn rhcl: nengard was last seen in #koha 4 days, 0 hours, 50 minutes, and 30 seconds ago: <nengard> I'll be back
17:18 rhcl @seen nengard
17:18 oleonard Do you want to increase font size everywhere?
17:18 oleonard I think it's easiest to use % to adjust font sizes
17:17 kf I am a bit confused by em/% and px
17:17 kf and the easiest way to increase font size in both?
17:16 kf hm ok
17:16 kf it moves up across the text and login box
17:16 oleonard You'd have to either use a conditional stylesheet for IE or use some kind of CSS hack
17:16 kf and the language switcher does wonky things in ie :(
17:16 kf oleonard: do you have a hint/trick to make the font-sizes a bit bigger in firefox but not making them go super large in ie the same time?
17:16 jcamins Internet Explorer: rising from the grave to make your life miserable.
17:15 kf thanks!
17:15 kf jcamins++ oleonard++ :)
17:15 kf jcamins: yep, that was the problem
17:15 kf that's better
17:15 kf oooooh
17:14 jcamins Firebug won't ever show you those lines, since they're not valid CSS.
17:14 pastebot "jcamins" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "kf: try this" (10 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/247
17:12 kf in the patch I don't see the element and firebug is trying to be difficult
17:12 kf I still don't get it :(
17:10 jcamins kf: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/1768161/how-do-i-reset-or-override-ie-css-filters
17:10 kf can I do something like filter:none
17:09 kf I am not patching :(
17:08 jcamins That's easiest, I guess. Just removing the filter lines, if you're patching anyway.
17:08 jcamins kf: http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/attachment.cgi?id=12826&action=diff
17:07 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8885 major, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Signed Off , OPAC with ccsr theme in IE9
17:07 jcamins Bug 8885
17:07 jcamins Ooh.
17:07 jcamins I just can't find that bug.
17:07 kf what jcamins asked
17:07 oleonard Sure
17:07 kf hi oleonard - help?
17:06 oleonard jcamins: Someone did for the new theme
17:04 jcamins And unpatched.
17:04 jcamins That's old.
17:04 jcamins No.
17:04 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7687 minor, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED , Remove problematic CSS gradient declarations targeting Internet Explorer
17:04 jcamins Bug 7687
17:02 jcamins oleonard: oh, oleonard. Question for you: didn't you just fix some background in IE?
16:56 wahanui Translating is ok of course :)
16:56 mveron Translating?
16:55 kf hi mveron
16:51 mveron Hi kf :-)
16:51 kf i do
16:50 jcamins You need a client with working scrolling!
16:50 kf it just stops autoscrolling sometimes
16:50 kf all the time
16:50 jcamins kf: again?
16:50 kf scrolling broken, ignore me.
16:50 kf argh.
16:50 kf jcamins: what jcamins said, using a cronjob
16:45 skk thanks
16:43 jcamins As you have noticed.
16:43 jcamins Yeah, that's a lot more error-prone.
16:42 skk i am compiling koha 3.8.6 from manual install
16:41 jcamins It then takes care of all the Zebra configuration for you.
16:41 jcamins For Debian and Ubuntu, you can install Koha with apt-get install koha-common
16:41 jcamins (they're not available for 3.8.6 yet, I don't think, but they will be soon)
16:41 wahanui packages is, like, at http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Debian
16:41 skk what is packages
16:41 jcamins Much easier.
16:40 jcamins You should use packages.
16:40 skk i am trying to compile livecd with latest 3.8.6 only
16:40 jcamins They're fixed in 3.6.10 and 3.8.6.
16:40 skk no we circulate the cd
16:40 jcamins XSS vulnerabilities in the OPAC.
16:40 jcamins If you're making your own, for your own use, I won't tell you not to use it.
16:40 skk like
16:39 jcamins The latest livecd that is available for download has serious security vulnerabilities.
16:39 skk why
16:39 jcamins That makes a *huge* difference in my advice.
16:39 skk yes
16:39 mveron Good evening #koha
16:39 jcamins You are _making_ a CD.
16:39 jcamins You didn't _download_ a CD.
16:39 jcamins Ohhh.
16:39 skk i am compiling the CD on lubuntu with latest koha
16:39 jcamins And where did you get it?
16:38 jcamins What version of Koha does it have?
16:38 jcamins Are you sure you're using the latest livecd?
16:38 skk oh ok thanx
16:38 jcamins You need to start zebra, not zebraqueue.
16:38 skk i had put them in update-rc.d
16:38 skk so no need to start zebra and zebraqueue while machine reboots
16:37 jcamins They are alternatives.
16:37 jcamins You should be using rebuild_zebra.pl.
16:37 jcamins Using -r (which is what I thought the question was about when you asked) will definitely cause your system to crash.
16:37 skk ok i wanted to knw about "should not be using zebraqueue_daemon" part
16:36 jcamins If you change it to */5 from */1 and -z from -r, that line you listed above will work.
16:36 jcamins (your question earlier used -r instead of -z, which causes rebuild_zebra to rebuild the entire index from scratch every time it's run; with -z, it will only update changed records)
16:35 jcamins I just told you.
16:35 skk what is alternative for zebraque_daemon then
16:35 jcamins And it should be every 5 minutes, not every one minute.
16:35 jcamins rebuild_zebra.pl -b -a -z
16:34 skk then what could be used instead of zebraqueue_daemon
16:34 jcamins It has been deprecated for two years.
16:34 jcamins You should not be using zebraqueue_daemon.
16:34 jcamins Don't use the livecd.
16:34 jcamins Yes.
16:34 * oleonard starts mumbling in tune with drojf
16:34 skk do u knw what could be solution for this error
16:33 skk and when i try to check for records in opac koha zebra gives error as DBD::mysql::st fetchrow_hashref failed: fetch() without execute() at /home/koha/bin/zebraqueue_daemon.pl line 125. DBD::mysql::st execute failed: Table 'koha.zebraqueue' doesn't exist at /home/koha/bin/zebraqueue_daemon.pl line 124.
16:33 jcamins Well, with an older version of Koha that has serious security vulnerabilities.
16:33 skk with latest koha
16:33 jcamins What are you trying to do?
16:33 skk i have not been able to configure zebra on livecd
16:32 skk oh
16:32 jcamins It will crash your server if you have more than ~100 records.
16:32 jcamins skk: it will, yes.
16:30 skk can someone tell me if i add */1 * * * * $KOHA_CRON_PATH/../migration_tools/rebuild_zebra.pl -b -a -r >/dev/null in crontab will it have any effect in koha functioning
16:29 Oak time to go home kf
16:27 kf and working in shifts... scary :)
16:27 kf poedit is the same for %s
16:06 drojf or we have to work in shifts
16:05 jcamins Probably not.
16:04 drojf will that work with multiple translators? i think you have to download and reupload the po files which may lead to problems since there are several german translators
16:01 jcamins drojf: maybe poedit is better?
16:00 drojf translators should not have to spend their time shifting '%s' around
15:59 drojf not that i know anything about that but there must be some translation platform more sophisticated than pootle?!
15:58 * drojf mumbles "not scary enough" â€¦
15:56 jcamins Good.
15:55 vfernandes wasn't reindex... stop and start zebra then reindex solved
15:54 vfernandes reindex worked...
15:54 jcamins Also, so you know, I'm pretty sure 3.2 has several XSS vulnerabilities.
15:54 jcamins Beyond general advice like "figure out what changed."
15:54 jcamins I'm saying I can't help you troubleshoot.
15:53 jcamins Right, I'm not saying the problem is 3.2.
15:53 vfernandes the same
15:53 jcamins What version is the test server running?
15:52 vfernandes 3.2 is not the problem because the problem will appear also in the test server
15:51 jcamins 3.2 is too old for me to offer any help beyond that suggestion.
15:51 jcamins You can try reindexing.
15:51 vfernandes 3.2... but I think it's a zebra problem
15:51 vfernandes in the test server everything is fine... in the production server not
15:50 jcamins What version of Koha?
15:50 vfernandes a have a test server and a production server
15:49 vfernandes Can't call method "data" on an undefined value at /opt/koha/lib/C4/AuthoritiesMarc.pm line 310
15:49 vfernandes Hi guys... I having a problem searching for authorities
15:46 * McCloud[A] is now away - Reason : Auto-Away after 30 minutes
15:39 Joubu bye ++
15:39 drojf lol
15:39 kf maybe more grimassenbuch?
15:39 drojf "relevance asc". who would sort something by "give me the least relevant first, please"?
15:38 kf drojf: hmmm I am nt sure
15:30 drojf or make it gesichtsbuch
15:30 drojf Facebook -> Buch. i should keep that translation
15:29 kf magnuse: around?
15:29 kf :)
15:22 jcamins Hehe.
15:21 drojf i plan to spread more annoyance in the livecd thread when he is back ;)
15:21 drojf untilâ€¦ tomorrow?
15:21 drojf i think he is travelling
15:20 jcamins I hate livecds.
15:20 jcamins Grr.
15:20 * jcamins sighs
15:20 jcamins Guess an e-mail to Vimal Kumar is needed.
15:19 jcamins Good point.
15:19 drojf "never touch a running livecd"
15:18 drojf not scary enough
15:17 * jcamins is thinking of sending a separate e-mail with the subject "Security vulnerability disclosure" with the same message.
15:17 kf clear
15:16 kf scary
15:08 jcamins ^^ is that clear?
15:08 jcamins "One further note about 3.6.10: this upgrade included fixes for several cross-site scripting (XSS) vulnerabilities in Koha that have been present at least since 3.4. ALL USERS OF KOHA SHOULD UPGRADE TO THE LATEST RELEASE ON THE BRANCH THEY ARE FOLLOWING TO RECEIVE PROTECTION FROM THESE THREATS.
14:55 tcohen thanks
14:55 tcohen i've just fixed my mis-translations
14:55 tcohen thanks, bgkriegel explained to me that prefs are translated in a different way
14:54 fredericd tcohen: This is a valid translation: http://translate.koha-community.org/fr/310/fr-FR-pref.po/translate/?unit=3819440
14:42 kf pm
14:41 drojf why?
14:41 drojf kf: somewhat. not really
14:40 kf drojf: around?
14:35 libsysguy beat you to it
14:34 libsysguy if not I'll go look at that patch heh
14:34 libsysguy jcamins do you know the path to those off the top of your head
14:33 libsysguy gotcha
14:31 jcamins libsysguy: yes, koha-shell hasn't gotten in yet.
14:31 libsysguy question: for a package install should I still have to export perl5lib and koha_conf?
14:25 tweetbot` [off] twitter: @ByWaterSolution: "IL2012: Open Source Issues & Trends http://t.co/EwX58RnF #kohails"
14:22 tcohen anyone from the translation team? or with some expertise on the subject?
14:16 tcohen should I just prepend the acquisitions.pref#BasketConfirmations# part?
14:16 tcohen http://translate.koha-community.org/es/310/es-ES-pref.po/translate/?unit=3774172
14:16 tcohen fredericd, could u take a look at this and tell me the correct workflow?
14:07 jcamins Yes.
14:07 gerundio from what I could tell during the setup process zebra is now a mandatory requirement, right?
14:06 jcamins Right.
14:06 gerundio basically koha had its own search engine built around MySQL
14:06 gerundio now I understand
14:05 jcamins It was supposed to set what indexes Koha used in NoZebra mode.
14:04 gerundio because he changed that too and I wasn't sure what that was supposed to do :)
14:04 gerundio hmm, one less problem then
14:03 jcamins Right.
14:03 gerundio and basically the NoZebraIndexes were just used if the option NoZebra was set to "Don't use"?
14:03 jcamins But that was a while ago.
14:03 jcamins It used to be an alternative to Zebra that used only MySQL.
14:03 jcamins It doesn't do anything now.
14:02 gerundio I read what you said about the NoZebra... can you explain a lit bit more what that field is supposed to do?
14:02 gerundio ok, I guess that answers the question :D
14:02 jcamins It's not.
14:01 gerundio how does it stand now as a Zebra alternative?
14:01 jcamins gerundio: yeah, it's not ready for production.
14:01 gerundio jcamins, I saw some mentions on Apache Solr before and as I was seeing you talking about it
14:00 gerundio caught me on that one
14:00 gerundio lolol
14:00 wahanui interesting is sometimes good and sometimes bad
14:00 gerundio hmm, interesting
13:53 * oleonard cheers jcamins
13:52 jcamins That's me.
13:52 tcohen so, you're the guy that will remove nozebra
13:51 jcamins I am rewriting C4::Search, gradually, and making it more like the Solr code.
13:51 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8773 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Signed Off , Add per-instance koha-index-daemon in .deb setup
13:51 tcohen eythian: i've attached a followup for bug 8773
13:51 jcamins Yeah, the NoZebra code is in C4::Search, and the Solr stuff is separate.
13:50 tcohen unrelated at fs level
13:50 tcohen ok
13:50 tcohen are they unrelated ?
13:50 jcamins *won't
13:50 jcamins tcohen: it wont'.
13:49 tcohen jcamins, how will the removal of nozebra stuff affect the work to integrate solr?
13:47 jcamins However, that's a bad idea, because NoZebra doesn't work.
13:47 jcamins Yes, he was probably trying to make it work exactly the way NoZebra did.
13:46 jcamins Ah-ha.
13:46 gerundio btw, do these changes might have anything to do with changes on the NoZebraIndexes value?
13:43 gerundio I'll try some social engineering with him now, to see if I can get to know those reasons you disagree with xD
13:42 gerundio thanks for your input on this
13:42 gerundio I knew it wasn't going to be easy :)
13:41 gerundio now I've picked up the process to make sure that the koha setup is done by the book with no unecessary changes
13:41 jcamins (note: I disagree strenuously with those reasons, whatever they might be, but it'd be useful for you to know)
13:41 gerundio my colleague already did this a data migration on its own koha installation
13:40 gerundio ok ok
13:38 jcamins I'm sure the person who made the changes must have had a reason.
13:29 jcamins From my point of view, this is crippling the good part of UNIMARC: the coded data.
13:28 jcamins The other lines remove indexes on 071, 072, 100 (I know this is very bad!), 102, 105, 110, 115, 116, 208, 207, 230, 461, 464, and 995$k.
13:28 gerundio jcamins, yes, we're migrating from DocBase
13:27 jcamins It's necessary if you already have the data in Koha with the biblionumber in 090$a, but it sounds like you don't.
13:27 jcamins This usually causes problems.
13:26 jcamins The 090 changes where the biblionumber is indexed.
13:26 * jcamins thinks it does. :P
13:26 gerundio does this explanation sound reasonable?? "I don't know what this does, but we're not going to use because jcamins said not to!!"
13:26 jcamins Another ILS?
13:25 jcamins I mean, in terms of software.
13:25 jcamins Hehe.
13:25 gerundio that might be a problem, not a technical one, but a working relationship one :)
13:25 jcamins Where is the data coming from?
13:25 gerundio I think that will be the last thing to do
13:24 jcamins In that case, throw out all the changes.
13:24 gerundio I haven't imported any records yet
13:24 gerundio no
13:24 jcamins Just to confirm... all your data is already in Koha, right?
13:23 jcamins *the
13:23 gerundio I don't think the person who did it can explain it either
13:23 jcamins I'm not a UNIMARC expert, but it looks to me like he eliminated all thd indexes on coded fields.
13:22 gerundio lololol
13:22 jcamins And that's really the important question.
13:22 jcamins I can't explain why anyone would make such a change, though.
13:22 jcamins gerundio: I can explain what each change does.
13:22 gerundio it seems like I'll have to dig deeper into it and try to make sense of it
13:21 gerundio my knowledge on this is very limited
13:21 gerundio jcamins, that's not nice
13:17 jcamins Other than that, you'll need to ask him what on earth he was thinking.
13:16 jcamins You'll need the 090 change.
13:16 jcamins I think you may have shown me the most absurd Zebra configuration changes I have ever seen.
13:16 jcamins In terms of functionality...
13:16 jcamins It makes sense insofar as the syntax is correct.
13:15 gerundio does it make any sense?
13:15 jcamins He removed a lot of indexes.
13:15 gerundio who's been providing IT support to our faculty library for a long time now
13:15 gerundio these were done by a colleague of mine
13:14 jcamins That's... different.
13:14 gerundio before you say anything, let me tell you I don't know what those changes are about
13:14 gerundio 1st one is the change one and 2nd is original
13:14 jcamins Wow.
13:14 jcamins First one is the changed one?
13:13 jcamins Which is the one that was modified?
13:13 gerundio jcamins, back and here's the diff -b you asked for earlier
13:12 pastebot "gerundio" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "record.abs diff -b changes" (72 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/246
13:10 oleonard ...the poor little princess...
13:06 jcamins Guess I need to e-mail the list and announce that 3.6 has been orphaned.
13:01 * jcamins has the other kind of focus problem.
13:00 * tcohen forgot his lenses, has focus problems :-P
13:00 magnuse :-)
13:00 tcohen oops
13:00 tcohen git rebase -i origin/master
12:54 magnuse jcamins++
12:54 jenkins_koha * jcamins: Bump version number for 3.6.10 release
12:54 jenkins_koha * jcamins: Add release notes for Koha 3.6.10
12:54 jenkins_koha * f.demians: 3.6.10 Translation Update
12:54 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.6.x build #63: STILL UNSTABLE in 42 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.6.x/63/
12:48 tcohen hi oleonard
12:46 oleonard Hi #koha
12:11 jenkins_koha Starting build #63 for job Koha_3.6.x (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #58 1 mo 9 days ago)
11:45 jcamins That is a very appropriate phrase.
11:44 jcamins Yup.
11:44 drojf the internet says the equivalent to the german phrase that comes to mind is "out of the frying pan into the fire"
11:42 jcamins drojf: no, my last release as RMaint.
11:41 drojf search rewrite done?
11:41 wahanui day is over, and the passed QA list is empty. Bye bye #koha !
11:41 drojf what day?
11:40 jcamins Today's the day!
11:14 jcamins fredericd++
11:11 jcamins Could you redo that diff with -b?
11:10 jcamins All whitespace changes.
11:08 gerundio jcamins, lots of changes... take a look and tell what you make of them :D
11:08 pastebot "gerundio" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "record.abs changes" (124 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/245
11:06 * jcamins doesn't know UNIMARC, but knows a fair amount about Zebra.
11:06 gerundio hmm, let me see and get back to you on that one
11:05 jcamins gerundio: what changes were made to record.abs?
11:02 * kf wishes
11:02 wahanui i heard oleonard was still here, if you just wish hard enough. or Koha's master UI designer
11:02 kf oleonard?
10:51 * kf waves
10:42 magnuse gerundio: yay! :-)
10:41 gerundio but thanks for the heads up
10:41 gerundio magnuse, I still haven't added any records so no reindex needed :D
08:02 kf brb
08:02 kf magnuse: I think a great idea
07:57 magnuse or week for that matter
07:57 magnuse kf: what do you think of a global "let's test the c**p out of master day" or something?
07:56 magnuse well deserved, of course
07:56 magnuse ooh, lucky you!
07:55 kf yep 3 weeks :)
07:54 magnuse holiday?
07:52 kf only for a day tho
07:51 kf thx :)
07:51 magnuse welcome back kf
07:51 kf good morning #koha
07:50 magnuse :-)
07:50 magnuse Oak
07:49 Oak magnuse
07:49 * Oak waves
07:38 magnuse maybe we should have a "global let's test the c**p out of master day" or something?
07:37 magnuse well, that one is fixed at least :-)
07:37 paul_p hey, huginn thought I wanted to see the bug three :D
07:37 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=3 normal, P2, ---, chris, RESOLVED FIXED, mod_env module checking in installer.pl
07:37 paul_p magnuse well, that's quite easy to declare a string freeze. I've no merit. What i'd like is to have a 0-bug 3.10 release !
07:36 magnuse hiya paul_p and congrats on the string freeze :-)
07:35 paul_p good morning #koha
07:35 * drojf wanders off
07:32 magnuse hmm...
07:32 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 5.0Â°C (9:20 AM CEST on October 23, 2012). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 87%. Dew Point: 3.0Â°C. Windchill: 0.0Â°C. Pressure: 30.18 in 1022 hPa (Steady).
07:32 magnuse @wunder boo
07:32 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Marseille, France is 17.0Â°C (9:00 AM CEST on October 23, 2012). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 88%. Dew Point: 15.0Â°C. Pressure: 30.06 in 1018 hPa (Steady).
07:32 magnuse @wunder marseille
07:31 sophie_m hello magnuse
07:31 magnuse kia ora Joubu drojf paul_p julian_m sophie_m et al
07:24 drojf lol magnuse
07:15 Joubu hello #koha
07:07 magnuse heh, o'reilly is doing a "bad data handbook" - i wonder if there is a chapter on MARC...
07:03 wahanui hi, lds
07:03 lds hello
07:00 wahanui hi, alex_a
07:00 alex_a bonjour
06:55 julian_m hello
06:51 magnuse :-)
06:50 francharb :)
06:50 francharb haha
06:49 magnuse hellÃ¦Ã¸Ã¥!
06:49 francharb hellÃ¸ magnuse ! ;)
06:44 magnuse bonjour francharb
06:44 francharb Hello #koha
06:39 magnuse hm, why am i not seeing po files for nb-NO 3.10? fredericd?
06:36 magnuse eythian++
06:35 magnuse kia ora #koha!
06:08 reiveune bonjour cait :)
06:08 cait hi reiveune :)
06:08 reiveune hello
06:00 eythian new packages deployed. share and enjoy.
05:19 eythian ah right
05:19 rangi We just need Paul to push it
05:18 rangi There's a patch for that already
05:18 huginn eythian: The operation succeeded.
05:18 eythian @later tell rangi C4::HoldsQueue causes a failed test on master due to database.
05:00 huginn eythian: The operation succeeded.
05:00 eythian @later tell gmcharlt also a pony, if you don't mind :)
05:00 huginn eythian: The operation succeeded.
05:00 eythian @later tell gmcharlt I'd like a git repo on git.k-c.org to put the perl package dependencies in.
04:59 * Oak_ waves
03:23 eythian No, the tarball won't go anywhere.
03:23 vera By the way, the tarball will still be alright to use in the future - there is no need to change is there?
03:20 vera I suspected so.. I will do that in the future at some point. Thanks.
03:20 eythian The closer you get to a fresh install, things will be easier though
03:19 eythian Well, if you undo the stuff you did for the tarball, you can install the packages, and migrate your data over.
03:19 wahanui OK, eythian.
03:19 eythian wahanui: listen is http://animalstalkinginallcaps.tumblr.com/post/34075064081/no-listen-youre-not-following-me-for-fission
03:19 vera Hi all, I've got a quick question. I've used the tarball option in the past to successfully install koha - its up and running, and its great. Now I see that there is a Ubuntu packages method - can I switch to the packages method of updating, or would I need to freshly install koha using the packages method in order to update koha with packages.
03:15 eythian gmcharlt: you happen to be around?
02:44 eythian oh
02:44 wahanui ...but newfoundland is the Untitled Document of place names....
02:44 eythian wahanui: Newfoundland is the "Untitled Document" of place names.
02:44 eythian later jcamins_away
02:44 jcamins Good night.
02:44 jcamins However, I'm done, so it's time for bed.
02:43 eythian heh
02:43 jcamins Don't ask. It's tragic.
02:43 jcamins Yeah, one authority for every single heading.
02:43 eythian that's a lot
02:43 jcamins ... 600k auths?
02:43 jcamins 400k bibs.
02:43 jcamins Actually, that's not right.
02:43 eythian It would, yeah
02:42 eythian I've gotten a little behind on package stuff, so I'm going to catch up today (and did some of that on Friday)
02:42 jcamins Reindexing 400k records took a long time.
02:42 eythian oh yeah, that's going to be my problem today too.
02:42 eythian ah, nice
02:42 jcamins Counting the package build.
02:42 jcamins Other than reindexing 400k records, it took 1 hour.
02:42 eythian sounds ... fun?
02:41 jcamins It was glorious.
02:41 jcamins My problem today was upgrading my clients' servers.
02:41 * jcamins can't imagine.
02:41 eythian true
02:41 jcamins Well, not my problem.
02:41 eythian So, why would they be doing that?
02:41 jcamins That's what I understood you to mean.
02:41 jcamins Right.
02:41 eythian By finished, I mean completed.
02:40 rangi wow
02:39 jcamins Yeah.
02:39 wahanui hmmm... mailing list is at http://koha-community.org/support/koha-mailing-lists/
02:39 rangi mailing list?
02:39 jcamins On the list.
02:39 jcamins Right.
02:39 rangi hmm?
02:39 eythian because he finished?
02:39 jcamins Back home to Canada.
02:39 eythian Where'd mtompset go?
02:39 jcamins SIL Phillipines.
02:39 eythian is it the same people?
02:38 jcamins mtompset has been gone a week, and they're redoing the migration?
02:38 jcamins Oh my.
00:48 YoungPublicLibrarian I was actually rather surprised. I really thought I had it dead to rights when I found the messages.message field and got the report working properly
00:46 YoungPublicLibrarian I found the messages.message field. But it only returns "for Patron" notes entered. Can't find any fields that specify "for Librarians" notes...
00:44 eythian ah, then I'm not sure, but you may be able to poke around the schema page to find it
00:44 YoungPublicLibrarian That only gives the notes in the Circ or OPAC fields. But not the messages entered through the "Add New Message" link
00:43 eythian "a note on the patron/borroewr's account that is only visible in the staff client"
00:43 eythian specifically, borrowernotes
00:43 eythian http://schema.koha-community.org/tables/borrowers.html <-- YoungPublicLibrarian
00:42 YoungPublicLibrarian Hello everyone. Anyone on that might be able to tell me what field I would need to use to get a query to output the "for Librarians" notes on patrons' accounts?