Time  Nick           Message
23:51 drojf          some mail is much better than no mail at all. i consider this a win. and wonder how i did not manage to configure postfix before, it just works
23:50 drojf          but maybe that is the reason the recall thingy does not work
23:48 drojf          postfix now just worked. that did not happen before. i'm a little confused how it uses the smarthost though without logging in :D
23:47 drojf          it did send a testmail, but it did not relay localhost mails (from koha)
23:47 jcamins        Postfix always works well for me.
23:47 jcamins        Ah.
23:46 drojf          jcamins: it's postfix, nullmailer did not work for me
23:46 jcamins        drojf: I've never figured out how to use nullmailer.
23:43 drojf          how did it use a smarthost without me giving username and password? that's interesting
23:37 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8688 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, fcapovilla, Needs Signoff , Add a recall button to the biblio record details page.
23:37 drojf          still does not send a recall mail for bug 8688 but errors
23:36 drojf          good koha, have a cookie
23:36 drojf          oh look my koha sent mail
23:34 santy          I mean, hire me again...
23:33 drojf          they have not hired you yet? how come you work for them already?
23:29 santy          well, I know a bit of perl, (did an ISIS syncronizer), they say they might hire me
23:28 santy          but they have their quirks
23:28 jcamins        But if they're not planning on keeping an Perl programmers on-staff, nor hiring a vendor for support, things could be very difficult.
23:27 * jcamins      thinks that's very good.
23:27 santy          which is cool
23:27 santy          they are into open source right now
23:27 santy          yes, they do, and accepted it because Koha is such a marvelous free system
23:26 jcamins        santy: do they understand that Koha is written in Perl?
23:26 drojf          i see
23:25 santy          not many people here know perl
23:24 santy          because it is difficult for them to find and hire programmers for any other language...
23:23 drojf          santy: why does it have to be java? i kind of understand the redhat thing (if they are a redhat partner blah blah), but why do they dictate a programming language for the import stuff? as long as it works, what does it matter?
23:10 santy          (which I have to syncronize)
23:10 santy          anyway, if they mess up the project with their guidelines, they will be under pressure from 52 public libraries
23:08 santy          It WAS hard to convince them that the ISIS synchronizer had to be implemented on perl
23:07 santy          oh God
23:07 drojf          if it goes really bad they make you reimplement koha in java :P
23:07 drojf          good luck with that
23:06 santy          I still don't know if in the end they make me implement everything on redhat
23:06 santy          yes... they are so inertial... picky... and burocratic
23:04 drojf          government agencies are crazy
23:03 santy          lol, I know access is not very reliable for a production system... but, there really are government agencies that have access based ILS... and its my duty to remotely show their records through Koha
23:03 jcamins        Also, Access crashes a lot.
23:01 jcamins        It was an excuse for people who didn't know anything about databases to break things.
23:01 * jcamins      hates Access.
23:01 jcamins        Ewww.
23:01 santy          I will, sure... I mean if things go well, at least I can say synchronizing already works between kohas, and WINSISI. i still have to implement SIABUC8 (which uses access)
22:59 jcamins        Someone just might pick up some of your code and make it better.
22:59 jcamins        Regardless how the project works, you should seriously consider making all the code open source and available.
22:58 santy          If this project goes well I might show you what I did and port my java webservice to perl and some how make it official.
22:56 santy          well it worked... I'm succesfully importing ISIS records, and zebra indexes fine.
22:54 jcamins        santy: santy so it sounds to me like this is the best way to go about things.
22:54 drojf          cats and bags, cats and boxes. they sure know how to have it cozy :)
22:53 cjh            nawww
22:53 drojf          awwww
22:52 santy          you're right, sometimes these questions are not easy to explain
22:52 jcamins        [off] drojf: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/A5dHoyXCAAEAEQm.jpg
22:52 jcamins        santy: that's very different from what it sounded like you were asking initially.
22:52 santy          ok
22:52 jcamins        There is not.
22:51 santy          but I don't know if there is one
22:51 jcamins        santy: okay, now I understand.
22:51 santy          I know... I would prefer to call a Koha api perl function like... concatenateMarcXML(author,corporate_author,title,unititle,....)
22:51 jcamins        It's almost large enough for him to fit.
22:51 jcamins        Yeah. A little paper bag with handles.
22:50 wahanui        I LIKE BASEBALL
22:50 drojf          a bag?
22:50 jcamins        Okay, that's what we just recommended that you do.
22:50 santy          not throug sql
22:50 jcamins        Myshkin just jumped into a bag.
22:50 santy          I do... I really traverse every marc code and add fields and subfields... concatenating them from a program
22:50 jcamins        Aww!
22:50 jcamins        If you are not directly importing the MARCXML, then you'll have to try rephrasing your question, because I understand that you are doing something like "INSERT INTO biblioitems (marcxml) VALUES (${marcxml});"
22:49 jcamins        That means you are failing to fill in several dozen columns that *need* to be filled in for everything to work right.
22:48 jcamins        However, if you are directly inserting MARCXML, that is bad.
22:48 santy          zebra processes them good
22:48 jcamins        santy: if you're happy with how you're doing it, that's fine.
22:48 santy          Well, I have to speak from my experience, I know how to concatenate the marcxml, I have done It and records show and can be searched neatly from Kohas catalog and staff interfaces..
22:48 jcamins        Any direct modifications to the Koha database have a 90%+ chance of making things worse.
22:47 * magnuse      calls it a day
22:47 magnuse        there are some tools there that might be useful, i think
22:47 wahanui        migration toolbox is https://www.gitorious.org/koha-toolbox/
22:47 magnuse        migration toolbox?
22:47 jcamins        If you are converting them into MARCXML, that's fine. Just import that MARCXML into Koha.
22:46 santy          they have a very ill designed system and there is no... export db as marc
22:46 jcamins        In that case, export them as whatever you can export them, and convert them into MARC.
22:46 santy          that is exactly the point... I cannot
22:46 magnuse        santy: can you export them as marc?
22:45 santy          I need to migrate some 40000 records from a custom db to Koha...
22:45 jcamins        Koha provides command line scripts.
22:45 magnuse        s/massage it/massage it with whatever tools you like/
22:45 jcamins        In order to get records from one system to another, you should export them as MARC, make any needed changes, and import them.
22:44 jcamins        There are a couple of web service APIs, but they're not going to do what you want either.
22:44 santy          I know, but I just want to migrate some records from another db.
22:44 magnuse        santy: export the data, massage it and import it into koha
22:44 jcamins        There is no Java API at all, and almost certainly never will be.
22:44 drojf          or with java
22:44 jcamins        santy: Koha was not designed to be used in tandem with other ILSes.
22:43 santy          have looked to find out the most standar and Koha compliant way to do this but must also do what my client enforces me to do.  In the end all data shall be migrated to Koha successfully, the hard way.
22:43 santy          Ok, I'll try and explain, there are many organizations who already have their own standard or custom ILS systems and who are very eager to switch to Koha.  unfortunately, some of them, like my client, are very restrictive of the kind of solutions a consultant may propose.  In a case where one has to use java to migrate or synchronize records from foreign ILS systems things can get really rough.  How am I supposed to use Koha's api from Java?  I have tried,
22:43 drojf          why do people say nullmailer is easy to set up if it does not work?
22:43 jcamins        Yup.
22:42 drojf          the '30x the normal rate' rates?
22:42 drojf          heh
22:42 jcamins        drojf: so that you'll try and have to pay me at my "broken production fixing" rates? Nah, that's not a good reason. I don't want to ever charge those rates, 'cause I hate dealing with broken production systems.
22:41 * magnuse      wonders why his memcached had a sudden spike in activity and then died a few hours ago
22:41 drojf          why is it XML if i am not supposed to edit it? *hides*
22:40 magnuse        :-)
22:40 jcamins        magnuse: yes, without editing the XML directly.
22:39 magnuse        there is a right way to edit marc? ;-)
22:35 jcamins        You _are_ going to mess up your system, and you're not going to be able to get any help you do that.
22:34 jcamins_away   santy: this is the wrong way to edit records.
21:53 wahanui        logs is http://irc.koha-community.org/irclog/koha/
21:53 drojf          logs?
21:45 wahanui        i heard fifth question was "Are we there yet?"
21:45 drojf          fifth question?
21:45 wahanui        fourth question is "Are we there yet?"
21:45 drojf          fourth question?
21:45 wahanui        third question is "What version of Koha are you using?" http://koha-community.org/faq/find-version-koha-running/
21:45 drojf          third question?
21:45 wahanui        second question is, like, "What is the exact error message?"
21:45 drojf          second question?
21:44 wahanui        "What are you trying to do?"  "What is the goal?" or "What problem are you experiencing?"
21:44 drojf          first question?
21:40 santy          I already looked but did not find one
21:38 santy          does the Koha api have a function to just do that... concatenate and update the marcxml field, so that I can call that function in a batch process?
21:22 santy          hello everyone.  I have a question... when saving a biblio in koha, does the Marcxml string get concatenated and updated again by the saving routine with the new values?
21:18 wizzyrea       and I will see you all again soon.
21:18 wizzyrea       so be safe, productive, and well.
21:17 wizzyrea       I probably won't be around much for a couple of weeks after this. :)
20:12 oleonard       Have a good weekend #koha
19:23 wahanui        i think cait is qam, not your secretary
19:23 jcamins        cait?
19:22 cait           lol
19:22 wahanui        cait is qam, not my secretary
19:22 drojf          cait?
19:20 cait           lol
19:19 drojf          lol
19:19 wahanui        She'll put a curse on me if I tell!
19:19 jcamins        which witch?
19:18 drojf          witch?
19:14 oleonard       Should have been "which is <reply> which what?"
19:12 * wizzyrea     shakes her fist at jcamins
19:12 jcamins        which?
19:12 wizzyrea       lol
19:12 wahanui        i already had it that way, wizzyrea.
19:12 wizzyrea       which is <reply>
19:12 jcamins        which is <reply>
19:12 wahanui        jcamins: I forgot which
19:12 jcamins        wahanui: forget which
19:12 wahanui        which is literally ''
19:12 jcamins        which?
19:12 wizzyrea       to me
19:12 wizzyrea       it doesn't taste like cauliflower
19:12 dracoling      aww. no factoids for me :(
19:11 dracoling      which is literally ''
19:11 cait           but it's still cauliflower.... it will take some time until I am ready to try that
19:10 wizzyrea       yesss!
19:10 cait           of course I haveone
19:10 wizzyrea       :)
19:10 cait           right
19:10 cait           aaah
19:10 wizzyrea       it's a bowl with holes in it
19:10 * cait         looks up colander :P
19:10 wizzyrea       faux fried rice, I mean
19:09 wahanui        wizzyrea: I forgot which
19:09 wizzyrea       forget which
19:09 wahanui        okay, wizzyrea.
19:09 wizzyrea       which is also yummy
19:09 wizzyrea       you can also make fried rice this way.
19:09 jcamins        Much faster that way.
19:09 jcamins        Definitely a lid.
19:09 wizzyrea       too.
19:09 wizzyrea       you probably want a lid on that
19:08 wizzyrea       same thing.
19:08 wizzyrea       let it go for 10ish minutes
19:08 wizzyrea       put that over a pot of boiling water
19:08 dracoling      mmmmmm. steamed cauliflower
19:08 wizzyrea       line the colander with a paper or cloth towel, put the cauliflower in it
19:08 wizzyrea       do you have a pot and a colander?
19:08 wizzyrea       that's all you're doing really
19:08 wizzyrea       well you can steam it
19:08 cait           *sob*
19:08 cait           and again... I got no microwave
19:07 wizzyrea       :P
19:07 wizzyrea       precisely. :{
19:07 jcamins        :P
19:06 jcamins        wizzyrea: you mean, like rice?
19:06 wizzyrea       well, until it looks like grain anyway.
19:06 wizzyrea       where "riced" cauliflower = buzzed to death in a food processor.
19:05 wizzyrea       http://www.onegoodthingbyjillee.com/2012/08/the-astonishing-cauliflower-pizza-crust-you-have-to-taste-it-to-believe-it.html
19:04 oleonard       Raw cauliflower with hummus!
19:04 jcamins        I like cauliflower sometimes.
19:03 cait           you amde me curious although cauliflower is probably the only vegetable I don't like
19:03 cait           wizzyrea: how does this cauliflower thing work?
19:00 wizzyrea       they always look quite yummy.
19:00 wizzyrea       one guy I follow does nothing but take pictures of every meal.
19:00 wizzyrea       and mostly, food.
18:59 wizzyrea       it's the place for pictures of your kids, or of women making duck faces, or dudes looking tough, or pictures of historical monuments taken from strange angles
18:59 wizzyrea       lol true about instagram
18:57 oleonard       Sorry, I should have said Instagram
18:56 slef           oleonard: or is that why they launched google+?
18:56 wizzyrea       [off] because it's magical. I'm not sure. But the secret is more likely that I don't currently have an automatic food chopper.
18:56 rambutan       [off] it's settled then. I'll have pepper and pepperoni pizza preferably at pizza hut tonight
18:56 slef           oleonard: I thought it was twitter was for posting dinner choices?
18:56 jcamins        [off] Cauliflower-crust pizza? Why is that secret?
18:55 wizzyrea       [off] it's secret pizza day!
18:55 * drojf        considers kohaleaks
18:55 oleonard       I missed posting my dinner choice online once and got a nasty letter from Google.
18:55 wizzyrea       [off] I'd eat pizza if I had a food processor. Because then I could have cauliflower-crust pizza.
18:55 slef           [off] I guess because it affects other people who haven't consented to have their dinner choices posted online forever.
18:54 slef           [off] Not sure. I'm a bit secretive about domestic things.
18:54 cait           [off] it's kind of poetic - koha people having pizza all around the world...
18:54 jcamins        [off] Why?
18:54 slef           [off] yes.
18:54 slef           Things like Google Groups really annoy me. They're ear-chewingly bad, yet still get flocks of people going to them.
18:54 jcamins        [off] Is that a secret?
18:53 slef           [off] I will be having pizza tonight.
18:53 oleonard       Thanks wizzyrea. I even looked on the wiki for it before I re-figured it out for the message.
18:51 wizzyrea       I will specify the version
18:51 oleonard       Sure, although it will be different in 3.10+
18:51 wizzyrea       re: title notes vs holdings tab
18:51 wizzyrea       oleonard: with your permission I'm going to add your bit of jquery to the library on the wiki
18:51 jcamins        (I know you said "cookie," but that made me think about baking)
18:50 * cait         had pizza tonight... what a coincidence
18:50 drojf          that popup is supposed to say "Not ready for change to temporarely choose the old google groups from teh server menu". it's a warning
18:50 jcamins        Pizza.
18:50 jcamins        Oooh.
18:50 slef           :)
18:50 cait           no chocolate, but a cookie
18:50 slef           and it wouldn't be a hammer, it would be an iphone5, which is about the same size
18:50 slef           If they remade that Superbowl advert today, it wouldn't be Big Brother on the big screen, it would be Google
18:50 * cait         hands slef an oatmeal cookie
18:49 slef           icing on the cake is "Not ready for change? Temporarily choose the old Google Groups from the settings menu." and if you do that, it says there was an error communicating with the server with a link to "Reload" and that then displays... guess what?  "The new Google Groups" again, with the same "Not ready for change?" popup
18:49 drojf          once we import all mailing list data to google groups all problems will vanish
18:49 drojf          lol
18:48 jcamins        drojf: help me out here?
18:48 jcamins        uhhh...
18:48 jcamins        slef: but if we had a Google group...
18:48 * slef         adds "the new Google Groups" to his usability disaster zone blacklist
18:47 jcamins        cait: I was just looking pizza bianca.
18:46 cait           jcamins: is that some kind of new code noone told me about? :)
18:46 drojf          dragons?
18:46 * cait         hopes rangi doesn't get eaten by a bear or one of those big reptiles
18:46 jcamins        Foccaccia uses a rich dough?
18:44 cait           yay :)
18:44 huginn         gmcharlt: Not yet - wait 34 days
18:44 gmcharlt       @arewethereyet
18:44 cait           now he leaves us with that
18:44 cait           pizza bianca... hm.
18:44 drojf          ah. camping. out in the wilderness. only nature. and your notebook. and smartphone. have fun :)
18:44 * magnuse      wanders off to eat his pizza bianca...
18:43 wahanui        Of course, one of the disadvantages is that said liquor cabinet doesn't get automatically stocked.
18:43 slef           Of course, one of the disadvantages?
18:43 magnuse        ooh, have fun rangi!
18:43 wahanui        wine is, like, not usually the best for programming :)
18:43 slef           ok, wine?
18:43 rangi          ok gotta shut down and pack the computer up to take camping
18:43 wahanui        kf should be writing slides
18:43 drojf          slides?
18:43 wahanui        wine is, like, an acceptable ingredient ;)
18:43 slef           wine?
18:43 wahanui        the file submited is not even the correct one :(
18:43 slef           the file submited?
18:43 jcamins        magnuse++
18:43 jcamins        Awesome!
18:42 magnuse        btw: my "get to know koha" day is fully booked - 20 people from 11 libraries - w00t!
18:42 magnuse        see?
18:42 magnuse        we all do, some time or opther
18:42 magnuse        that's ok rangi :-)
18:41 rangi          magnuse: i fail
18:41 huginn         rangi: (help [<plugin>] [<command>]) -- This command gives a useful description of what <command> does. <plugin> is only necessary if the command is in more than one plugin.
18:41 rangi          @help
18:41 huginn         rangi: An error has occurred and has been logged. Please contact this bot's administrator for more information.
18:41 rangi          @help arewethereyet
18:41 wizzyrea       yw
18:41 cait           :)
18:41 cait           thx wizzyrea
18:41 cait           can someone else do me the favour? :)
18:41 huginn         wizzyrea: The operation succeeded.  Quote #220 added.
18:41 wizzyrea       @quote add jcamins: Facebook may not like unspecified relationships, but rare books catalogers do!
18:41 cait           meh
18:41 huginn         cait: Error: You must be registered to use this command. If you are already registered, you must either identify (using the identify command) or add a hostmask matching your current hostmask (using the "hostmask add" command).
18:41 cait           @quote add jcamins: Facebook may not like unspecified relationships, but rare books catalogers do!
18:40 gmcharlt       heh - I had meant juris doctor, but Jack Daniels also works
18:40 magnuse        who can give @arewethereyet a new date to keep track of?
18:40 cait           lol jcamins++
18:40 slef           gmcharlt: +Coke?
18:40 gmcharlt       now, to start work on my JD
18:40 slef           gmcharlt: tough, you missed your chance and only got a bar drink.
18:39 jcamins        slef: well he never did before, but now that you've suggested it...
18:39 gmcharlt       slef: my lawyers demand fine chocolate!
18:39 * oleonard     eyes gmcharlt suspiciously
18:39 slef           jcamins: does gmcharlt insist on your legal full name and that you pay for his lawyers?
18:38 jcamins        slef: but you have to send your key to gmcharlt for git.k-c.org, too.
18:38 slef           jcamins: and their terms suck.
18:37 slef           jcamins: you can't use it without registering with them.
18:37 jcamins        Later.
18:37 jcamins        This reminds me. Must add git hooks.
18:37 jcamins        slef: what's github done?
18:37 slef           thank you thank you to all the lovely hosts of koha-community.org machines
18:37 jcamins        rangi++
18:37 rangi          and no off in search results now
18:37 slef           arrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrgh I am sooooooooooooooooooo glad that koha doesn't require github
18:36 rangi          seems fine to me
18:30 drojf          sent a mail about »official« livecds to the lists. i hope it does not sound arrogant.
17:54 wajasu         oh
17:54 jcamins        wajasu: but they're not there.
17:53 wajasu         i think he meant that he put the packages in squeeze-dev
17:53 jcamins        o/
17:52 * cait         waves
17:52 tcohen         thanks
17:52 tcohen         i'll let it go he, maybe on monday i can test that
17:52 jcamins        tcohen: possibly, but I don't know where that would be.
17:51 tcohen         jcamins, is it posible that those packages had been uploaded to a catalyst's repo?
17:39 drojf          no he wasn't. (and i did remember the nick)
17:39 huginn         drojf: vimal was last seen in #koha 1 week, 2 days, 6 hours, 49 minutes, and 43 seconds ago: <vimal> Thanl u all
17:39 drojf          @seen vimal
17:39 jcamins        I don't think so, but I could be mistaken.
17:38 drojf          has the livecd manager been here somewhen since the irc meeting?
17:35 tcohen         yeah, me too
17:35 jcamins        tcohen: I'm not sure. I can't figure out quite what he wanted done, so I'm just guessing.
17:35 jcamins        You know, I need to configure Zebra to understand 'u' and 'v' as the same letter.
17:34 tcohen         jcamins, I thought that eythian had built libkoha-contrib-tamil-perl and its dependencies into the repo
17:33 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8525 minor, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Passed QA , Highlight matches on details page
17:33 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7986 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , Export issues
17:33 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=4177 normal, P5 - low, ---, mirko, Pushed to Master , opaccloud missing from the system preferences interface
17:33 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8861 minor, P5 - low, ---, mtompset, Pushed to Master , Undefined variables in batchMod.pl trigger error logs
17:33 jenkins_koha   * nengard: Follow up: Bug 8525: Update preference description
17:33 jenkins_koha   * nengard: Bug 7986 Follow Up: Fix ExportRemoveFields
17:33 jenkins_koha   * nengard: Bug 7986 Follow Up: Update ExportWithCsvProfile
17:33 jenkins_koha   * mirko: Bug 4177 opaccloud missing from the system preferences interface
17:33 jenkins_koha   * mtompset: Bug 8861 - Undefined variables in batchMod.pl trigger error logs
17:33 jenkins_koha   Project Koha_master build #910: SUCCESS in 1 hr 7 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/910/
17:30 drojf          ha. looks promising
17:29 gerundio       gone
17:29 gerundio       remind me of this monday :)
17:27 huginn         04Bug 8919: critical, P1 - high, ---, dpavlin, Needs Signoff , ExtendedPatronAttributes not populated from LDAP
17:27 drojf          http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8919
17:27 drojf          i dont know, you are the expert :)
17:27 gerundio       isn't it solved already with this new patch?
17:27 drojf          have a nice weekend :) come back if you get bored ;)
17:26 gerundio       lolol
17:26 drojf          gerundio:
17:26 drojf          heh gerundioi i just thought to send you to another LDAP bug ;)
17:26 gerundio       thanks for the support
17:26 gerundio       have a nice weekend everyone
17:25 gerundio       time to say goodbye for now
17:24 drojf          oh no the LDAP guy left
17:20 * jcamins      goes to eat lunch.
17:20 jcamins        Maybe?
17:20 jcamins        So what you should be testing is that building the packages using your script works?
17:20 jcamins        All the dependencies are now on debian.koha-community.org.
17:19 jcamins        Actually, I see.
17:19 tcohen         so I thought there must be another debian repo he is using for testing
17:19 jcamins        That's a problem.
17:19 jcamins        Hm.
17:19 jcamins        Oh.
17:18 tcohen         jcamins, yes, but the packages are not there
17:18 jcamins        tcohen: probably you should just do "sudo apt-get install [package name]"?
17:18 tcohen         i always forget :-D
17:17 tcohen         oh
17:17 tcohen         what are the instructions to test your packages?
17:17 jcamins        tcohen: it's Saturday in NZ.
17:17 tcohen         eythian
17:15 drojf          lol. i bet fb has put me in a 787 of several people that invited me. fb should really use MARC.
17:11 jcamins        drojf: there are days, yes.
17:11 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8948 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, NEW , MARC21 field 787 doesn't display
17:10 jcamins        Bug 8948
17:10 drojf          we are?
17:08 jcamins        As an aside, we're pretty snarky, aren't we? :)
17:08 drojf          and not really desirable
17:07 drojf          that is strange
17:06 oleonard       Indeed.
17:05 huginn         jcamins: The operation succeeded.
17:05 jcamins        @later tell rangi Never mind. [off] appears in search results, but possibly not in the actual logs.
17:05 jcamins        It appears in search but not in the logs.
17:04 jcamins        That's weird.
17:04 jcamins        Wait...
17:04 drojf          logs fine for me
17:03 oleonard       jcamins: Where?
17:02 huginn         jcamins: The operation succeeded.
17:02 jcamins        @later tell rangi Please fix logbot, he is logging [off].
17:01 wahanui        Logs is http://irc.koha-community.org/irclog/koha/
17:01 jcamins        Logs?
17:00 drojf          stable, schmable. shiny features!!1! :D
16:59 jcamins        Well- plus a few backports, but the reports service was too complicated.
16:59 jcamins        However, I want my clients' systems to be stable more than I want that, so I'm running 3.6.x.
16:58 drojf          yes, please!
16:58 jcamins        drojf: I'd like to use OSM + Koha's report service to actually map the entire collection.
16:57 drojf          oh fancy! i have to try that. and OSM it ;)
16:53 jcamins        Under OPAC enhanced content.
16:53 wahanui        jquery library is found at http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/JQuery_Library
16:53 jcamins        jquery library?
16:52 drojf          mapping jquery?
16:52 drojf          freistatt is also a word for "asylum, sanctuary" by the way
16:50 jcamins        This is the client for whom I did the mapping jQuery.
16:50 drojf          :)
16:50 jcamins        drojf: good. I hate leaving items unmapped.
16:49 oleonard       Wherein the hero stops at nothing to race across the country to solve the mystery, stopping only to periodically bake bread.
16:49 drojf          jcamins: interesting idea. you would not do it that way in more or less modern german. had a look in my etymological dictionary, nothing there. it would probably rather be "Freistatt" (Stätte=place, Stadt=town) and a convention i never heard of or can find.
16:47 jcamins        Move over Dan Brown and The Da Vinci Code, here comes jcamins and The Eleutheropol Conspiracy!
16:46 dracoling      Simple answer denied in favor of buckling of swashes.
16:45 jcamins        The story of how hundreds of books were printed in Mequon, WI under a false imprint and then smuggled to Europe and claimed by booksellers in various places on the continent.
16:44 jcamins        Actually, this could be a thrilling swashbuckling adventure.
16:43 jcamins        dracoling: seems unlikely, unless they had a printing press in 1704.
16:43 dracoling      jcamins: Freistadt is also a neighborhood in Mequon, WI, USA. But that's probably not really relevant.
16:43 jcamins        "Eleutheropol" was identified as "Freistadt," but since "Eleutheropol" is a false imprint, I was concerned that it could be a note in German along the lines of "free [un-fixed] place." :)
16:42 drojf          but, well, if it's austrian, they may have crazy words with weird meanings :D
16:41 jcamins        drojf: good.
16:41 drojf          jcamins: definitely the austrian town. not possible to use that as "unknown place" as far as i can imagine
16:40 jcamins        No kf for a long time!
16:40 jcamins        She's on vacation next week.
16:40 oleonard       And it's Friday--kf might not be back until Monday!
16:39 jcamins        Just missed kf. I could've asked for two opinions.
16:39 jcamins        Bah.
16:39 jcamins        drojf: "Freistadt" - that's more likely to be the town in Austria than a German note along the lines of "unknown place," right?
16:39 kf             bye all and have a nice weekend!
16:39 kf             lol
16:39 jcamins        Next time we see him, he's going to have gone entirely gray. :P
16:38 huginn         wizzyrea: The operation succeeded.
16:38 wizzyrea       @later tell libsysguy Congrats on the house!
16:38 wizzyrea       closing on a house! awesome!
16:36 jcamins        I warned him it was a trap, not unlike C4::Auth.
16:35 jcamins        Closing on a house, I think.
16:35 jcamins        lol
16:35 drojf          partying with swedes on his deck?
16:35 jcamins        libsysguy won't be around today, I think.
16:34 drojf          w00t
16:34 jcamins        Hooray!
16:34 jcamins        What we need is a `kohactl reload` (like `apache2ctl reload`).
16:33 gerundio       well, but lets make this official: LDAP bind authentication is now working
16:33 gerundio       memcached for storing the settings in a production environment makes all the sense to me
16:32 gerundio       I was just discussing that with a colleague
16:32 huginn         slef: YES!
16:32 slef           @arewethereyet
16:30 jcamins        The argument against putting memcached configuration in koha-conf.xml makes very little sense, in light of the fact that any changes you make require restarting memcached anyway.
16:30 huginn         New commit(s) kohagit: Merge remote-tracking branch 'origin/new/bug_8525' <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=ee3eee451d2c36ff58f9443c86a8522ef905eca1> / Follow up: Bug 8525: Update preference description <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=15711398399fadc519914de9394d65238c31f78c> / Merge remote-tracking branch 'origin/new/bug_7986' <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=comm
16:30 gerundio       do you want the good news or the good news? :D
16:30 jcamins        Yeah.
16:30 gerundio       a memcached restart is in order then :D
16:29 gerundio       yeap :)
16:29 jcamins        gerundio: are you using memcached?
16:28 gerundio       and I'm getting the value 0 there
16:28 nengard        I'll be back
16:28 gerundio       I have that set to 1 in my config file
16:28 nengard        i need some food before i start thinking about all of this :)
16:28 nengard        jcamins nope - you approved the authorities linking text
16:28 gerundio       hmm, weird then
16:27 jcamins        gerundio: that's correct. The ||0 is to make sure we don't get warnings about the variable being undefined.
16:27 drojf          but perl expertise is nothing i would claim for myself :)
16:27 drojf          gerundio: that's what i think
16:26 jcamins        I would suspect that ExplodedTerms is not particularly useful for US public libraries, but would be useful for UNIMARC libraries, and for special libraries.
16:25 jenkins_koha   Starting build #910 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS)
16:25 jcamins        The ExplodedTerms plugin suggests broader/narrower/related searches using the authority hierarchy links in authority records' 5xx fields.
16:25 gerundio       this should assign $ldap with the 'useldapserver' config file value if the entry exists and otherwise set it to 0, right?
16:24 jcamins        That's the AuthorityFile plugin. It searches for your terms in the authority file, and suggests you search for records linked to those authorities.
16:24 gerundio       $ldap = C4::Context->config('useldapserver') || 0;
16:24 gerundio       need some perl expertise from you now :)
16:24 gerundio       think I found the origin of the problem
16:23 jcamins        See the yellow bar near the top, that suggests the Smithsonian and a couple of other Smiths?
16:23 jcamins        [off] http://kohadev.cpbibliography.com/cgi-bin/koha/opac-search.pl?idx=&q=smith
16:22 jcamins        Didn't you? I thought I approved your manual text.
16:21 nengard        right, but what am i dragging and dropping, how does the set up effect the opac ? basically whatever would be in the manual i'll put on that help page, but i haven't put it in the manual yet
16:21 jcamins        Check the box for each plugin you want to enable, drag them into your preferred order, and click "Save."
16:20 jcamins        It's all drag-and-drop.
16:20 jcamins        I didn't write any help on it.
16:20 jcamins        The page in admin is just to enable/disable and prioritize Did you mean? plugins (OPAC-only for right now, in a follow-up for 3.12).
16:20 nengard        for the page - how to use the feature from the admin area in the staff client
16:19 jcamins        The feature is OPAC-only at the moment, which is probably why it doesn't show up in the intranet help files.
16:19 jcamins        nengard: for the feature or for the page?
16:18 nengard        hehe
16:18 nengard        and that is your feature right? :)
16:18 nengard        jcamins do you have any help info for the did you mean feature? a help file wasn't created - I can do one, but if you have something I can copy from I'll use that
16:15 drojf          well, sleep is overrated anyway :P
16:15 nengard        and I leave for a conference tomorrow
16:15 drojf          oh it's on monday already
16:12 nengard        I don't think I'll finish before the freeze
16:12 nengard        but i do want to get them to the translators if I can
16:12 nengard        they're not as thorough as i want them
16:11 nengard        got a deadline looming
16:11 drojf          goodness, nengard is on a help file spree
16:09 gerundio       lets see how it goes this time :)
16:09 gerundio       but I never get to have enough time on each one of them to contribute that much
16:09 gerundio       I deal with them all the time here at work
16:09 gerundio       it would be nice to get a little more involved on some open source projects
16:08 jcamins        gerundio: hehe.
16:08 drojf          heh. just kidding. whatever little (or more) you choose to do is very cool! what you did now is already cool. thanks!
16:07 gaetan_B       bye !
16:06 gerundio       if you're religious, let me just say, the saviour walked the earth 2000+ years ago :p
16:06 drojf          too late. YOU CAN'T LET US DOIWN NOW!!
16:06 jcamins        gerundio: but after a week-long vacation, surely you'll be raring to go? :)
16:05 gerundio       but don't get the hopes up to high
16:05 gerundio       I got that impression in the last few days by talking to you guys
16:05 drojf          paid with lots of karma and glory
16:05 jcamins        gerundio: in case it's not clear, most of us find C4::Auth horrifying and terrifying.
16:04 drojf          a looonglasting change
16:04 gerundio       it feels good to get in touch with programing for a change now
16:03 jcamins        gerundio: you should take a week-long vacation and come back and fix C4::Auth.
16:03 jcamins        gerundio: so you feel inspired to work on Auth_by_ldap?
16:03 gerundio       I was managing a helpdesk team here at my faculty
16:03 gerundio       well, lets just say I've been away from keyboards and code for a while
16:02 gerundio       lolol
16:02 drojf          gerundio: you are working hard for your "that LDAP guy" title :)
16:00 gerundio       to figure out where this could be added :)
16:00 gerundio       I'll try to trace the login action on the OPAC form
16:00 jcamins        C4::Search is enough horror.
16:00 drojf          or ask libsysguy later
15:59 drojf          or you could add a question to the bug
15:59 * jcamins      avoids Auth.
15:59 drojf          maybe somebody else here does
15:59 gerundio       ok
15:59 drojf          gerundio: i'm afraid i don't know anything about memberadd
15:58 drojf          that's cool :)
15:58 jcamins        drojf: right.
15:58 jcamins        It was so absurd I had to stop after two episodes because it kept on distracting me from wrapping spanakopita.
15:58 drojf          jcamins: like others go for a walk?
15:58 jcamins        oleonard: actually, I just started the original Star Trek.
15:58 jcamins        drojf: mostly in between working, when I'm wrestling with a problem.
15:57 gerundio       I just need some directions where to perform that memberadd call
15:57 drojf          gerundio: that's fantastic!
15:57 * oleonard     knows jcamins is talking about Cleopatra 2525
15:57 gerundio       kind of :)
15:56 drojf          jcamins: you cook while working?
15:56 gerundio       I think I've accomplished all those goals except for the last one
15:56 drojf          gerundio: and you are volunteering? :)
15:56 jcamins        I turn on cheesy sci fi TV shows for background noise while cooking, though.
15:56 gerundio       from lines 43 to 48
15:56 jcamins        I actually don't listen to music while working.
15:55 sekjal         this is one of the first times I've listened to music at work… that's definitey something I miss from my home office days
15:55 gerundio       drojf, while changing the Auth_with_ldap.pm source code I found the comments regarding what still need to be done
15:54 drojf          [off] lately, whenever somebody stops replying i imagine him/her directly messaging oleonard. apparently it's true
15:53 jcamins        [off] Respond on list "I cannot answer messages sent directly to me. Please address the list."
15:53 oleonard       [off] Ugh, how did I know that Mr. 3.06 would reply directly to me :(
15:44 jcamins        Of course, one of the disadvantages is that said liquor cabinet doesn't get automatically stocked.
15:43 jcamins        Indeed.
15:42 oleonard       The benefits of working from home?
15:42 jcamins        oleonard: actually, I have a liquor cabinet in the room adjoining my office.
15:41 drojf          seems like the best thing german pirate party has done for their poll results lately is… having the house of their vice chairman raided by police to find some marihuana and cannabis plants.
15:41 WaylonR        going to bed.
15:41 WaylonR        okay , night all
15:40 jcamins        oleonard: I was going to say, sounds like you the 2010s in Ohio are a lot more exciting than in New York. :P
15:40 oleonard       /no/ liquor cabinet that is
15:40 jcamins        "I did a kickass job this past year, but given a carefully calculated amount of artisan beer every day, I could do an even better job next year!"
15:40 sekjal         jcamins: I knew there was something else I should have put on that grant application!
15:40 oleonard       Confound this decade, there's liquor cabinet in my office!
15:39 oleonard       any project worth doing is worth doing at peak efficiency
15:39 jcamins        sekjal: are you arguing that they should be providing you with an artisan beer stipend? :)
15:38 rambutan       https://xkcd.com/323/ <- Win ME was the only operating system I could never get to shutdown properly on my Packard Bell. I always had to turn off the power supply. Strangly never trashed the filesystem, however.
15:38 sekjal         writing up my annual performance review at the moment
15:37 sekjal         jcamins: not right now
15:37 jcamins        *Ballmer
15:37 jcamins        sekjal: are you working on a project that requires Balmer Peak levels of efficiency?
15:33 jcamins        sekjal: hehe.
15:33 jcamins        "Priority" is not currently used.
15:33 sekjal         https://xkcd.com/323/
15:32 drojf          gerundio: it's an enhancement, AFAIK they have always that level because bugfixes are more important
15:31 gerundio       drojf, done... one even latest last thing :p should we raise the importance level for that a little bit?
15:30 oleonard       whine?
15:30 wahanui        i think wine is an acceptable ingredient ;)
15:30 jcamins        wine?
15:28 wahanui        it has been said that wine is not usually the best for programming :)
15:28 oleonard       wine?
15:28 oleonard       What does this module need. wine?
15:28 wizzyrea       LOL!
15:28 wahanui        wine is not usually the best for programming :)
15:28 wizzyrea       wine?
15:28 wizzyrea       wine
15:28 drojf          gerundio: sorry, another lastest last thing :D set the bug status to "needs signoff" so people find it :)
15:28 wizzyrea       What do I do if koha won't install?
15:28 wizzyrea       ^^
15:28 oleonard       No matter what the question.
15:28 wizzyrea       perfect.
15:28 wizzyrea       LOL!
15:28 wahanui        wine is an acceptable ingredient ;)
15:28 wizzyrea       wine?
15:27 wahanui        okay, wizzyrea.
15:27 wizzyrea       ok wine is also an acceptable ingredient ;)
15:27 jcamins        wizzyrea: what about Murcia al Vino?
15:26 drojf          now we have to find somebody with an ldap setup to test that :/
15:26 drojf          gerundio++
15:25 gerundio       done
15:25 gerundio       on my way to do it now :)
15:25 kf             :)
15:25 gerundio       ok ok
15:24 wizzyrea       yea, it is
15:24 drojf          gerundio: you did not use the -e option so you have to manually obsolete the old patch
15:24 wizzyrea       :)
15:24 kf             wizzyrea: I heard peanut butter was a good gift
15:24 gerundio       tell me about it
15:24 drojf          gerundio: one last thing
15:24 rambutan       highly nutritious. American Medical Association seal of approval.
15:24 wizzyrea       cheese should have milk, salt, acid, maybe color.
15:24 drojf          ah its UTC. i was confused about the time
15:24 * wizzyrea     doesn't consider it cheese. It has more than 5 ingredients. :P
15:24 drojf          gerundio: have you attached it to the correct bug number?
15:24 kf             gerundio: looks good
15:23 jcamins        oleonard: well, yeah. Sometimes I make brownies, though.
15:23 wizzyrea       i'm not sure you could get that through customs
15:23 rambutan       sure it is. if it isn't, blame the Swiss. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Velveeta
15:23 jcamins        wizzyrea: Kansas has bizarre liquor laws?
15:23 oleonard       jcamins: especially since you make it yourself
15:23 jcamins        oleonard: I generally go with fudge.
15:22 wizzyrea       oleonard: only beer, and they are a bit titchy about that kind of stuff (especially in kansas with our completely bizarre liquor laws(
15:22 gerundio       ok, so now the patch looks fine and I hope it gets approved
15:22 wizzyrea       oleonard: yes!
15:22 drojf          looks fine to me
15:21 huginn         04Bug 7379: normal, P3, ---, adrien.saurat, Pushed to Master , copynumber is displayed 'as is' when linked to autorised values
15:21 gerundio       http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7379 ... is that ok kf?
15:21 oleonard       wizzyrea: conversely, it's remarkably difficult to think of an American food one would want to bring as a gift to another country
15:21 jcamins        It's... just like cheese, except without any of its advantages and with all its disadvantages.
15:21 wizzyrea       it's not cheese?
15:21 wizzyrea       um...
15:21 kf             cool
15:21 rambutan       something wrong with velveta?
15:21 gerundio       and added a comment
15:21 jcamins        wizzyrea: but horrifying dairy substitute is excellent!
15:21 gerundio       just did that on the other bug
15:20 kf             gerundio: you can mark it obsolete - so noone will stumble upon it :)
15:20 gerundio       kf, I bet you did... :)
15:20 wizzyrea       so, no.
15:20 wizzyrea       i'm realizing there are lots of things "american" that I don't eat.
15:20 gerundio       fixed
15:20 jcamins        wizzyrea: have you packed your supply of the horrifying dairy substitute that is our national "cheese"?
15:19 wizzyrea       oh yes, so many times.
15:19 kf             (variious times...)
15:19 kf             we have all been there already
15:19 * kf           hands gerundio a chocolate chip cookie
15:19 drojf          heh. happens
15:19 kf             I just wrote a comment
15:18 kf             oh
15:18 gerundio       arghhhhhhh
15:18 drojf          at some other bug
15:18 drojf          it did
15:18 gerundio       but still, the attachment didn't show up in the bugtracker :D
15:18 drojf          err, wrong bug number :)
15:18 gerundio       it's the output of the git bz attach command
15:17 gerundio       check that paste
15:17 gerundio       not really, everything seems to go smooth this time
15:17 drojf          gerundio: cool, did something explode?
15:17 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7379 normal, P3, ---, adrien.saurat, Pushed to Master , copynumber is displayed 'as is' when linked to autorised values
15:17 pastebot       "gerundio" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "Bug 7379 attachment" (7 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/243
15:16 gerundio       drojf, just followed all the instructions you gave me before
15:15 drojf          lol
15:15 wahanui        rumour has it wizzyrea is a Cylon, and they all have plans
15:15 drojf          hey wizzyrea
15:15 oleonard       Hi wizzyrea
15:14 rambutan       oleonard: post to koha-dev
15:13 * wizzyrea     waves
15:04 reiveune       bye
15:01 oleonard       rambutan: ?
14:58 rambutan       cuba. Interesting
14:48 kf             i will sent the mail to you in cc
14:45 kf             or different
14:45 kf             not very helpful :)
14:40 drojf          http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Koha_3.6_on_Centos_6.2_i386#Set_up_cron_jobs
14:39 kf             http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Koha_on_ubuntu_-_git#Setup_Zebra
14:39 kf             hm
14:36 kf             http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Installation_Documentation
14:36 kf             this seems not up to date:
14:36 drojf          s/ß/?/
14:36 kf             yeah
14:36 kf             lol
14:36 drojf          centosß you know strange people :D
14:36 kf             I am looking for this centos installation...
14:35 kf             ah
14:35 drojf          to install the packages so they do it for them? :P
14:35 * kf           checks the wiki
14:35 kf             I should phrase a proper question I guess :) where are currently sending people installing koha that have to set up the cronjob for reindexing?
14:34 kf             :)
14:33 wahanui        zebra is, like, a fielded free text indexing and retrieval engine with a Z39.50 front-end. You can use any compatible, commercial, or freeware Z39.50 client to access data stored in Zebra. or the search engine koha uses
14:33 kf             zebra?
14:33 kf             best installation manual for settng up the cronjobs?
14:33 kf             hm
14:27 drojf          thanks :)
14:27 nengard        I'll need to look in to it later though cause today is help file day :)
14:27 nengard        it's because of the services we're using to post to twitter automatically
14:27 nengard        I thought I turned off the feedburner redirecting
14:27 nengard        Hmmm ? they shouldn't do that anymore
14:27 drojf          i would click your links with a lot more passion if i would not have to say "hello google" several times per click ;)
14:26 drojf          [off] http://paste.koha-community.org/242
14:26 drojf          nengard: i know i'm annoying, but is there a reason why the bywater twitter links all hop through a multitude of urls before they reach bywatersolutions.com?
14:20 oleonard       Oh no, hide your children!
14:20 tweetbot`      [off] twitter: @kohails: "#kohails  The mobile theme is coming! http://t.co/uV7JYnPm"
14:19 drojf          good luck :)
14:17 gerundio       2nd try then :)
14:17 gerundio       ok
14:15 drojf          gerundio: http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Version_Control_Using_Git#Do_some_work might help. it also describes how your commit message is supposed to look
14:15 gerundio       drojf, I'm still a SVN guy
14:13 drojf          then you get a branch to play with. do your changes there. when you are done, commit your changed files wit "git commit -a" for all or "git commit <filename>" for each file
14:12 drojf          you should open a new branch for your bug. i use the bug number for that. something like "git checkout -b bug_7379 origin/master"
14:12 drojf          so you just cloned?
14:11 drojf          no worries, git is a little confusing in the beginning. you will get used to it :)
14:10 gerundio       done :D
14:10 drojf          s/a/an/
14:10 drojf          there is a "obsolete" checkbox
14:10 drojf          and on "edit details"
14:09 drojf          click on "details" for your attachment
14:09 drojf          yes, you can obsolete the patch manually
14:08 gerundio       it has nothing to do with the changes I've made
14:08 gerundio       is it possible to remove that patch?
14:08 nengard        still not done with the 3.10 manual, but getting as much of it in to the help files as I can
14:08 nengard        :) thanks oleonard
14:08 gerundio       I just used "git clone git://git.koha-community.org/koha.git"
14:08 oleonard       nengard++ # for documentation patches
14:07 drojf          did you commit your changes in git?
14:07 oleonard       Are you in the wrong branch gerundio?
14:07 gerundio       the file submited is not even the correct one :(
14:06 gerundio       it didn't work out quite as expected
14:06 gerundio       hmmm
14:06 drojf          without the 2
14:06 drojf          you should also switch the status to "needs signoff2 when you do that
14:06 gerundio       I'll just add a more complete comment in bug tracker directly
14:05 gerundio       it worked
14:05 gerundio       I just re-submitted
14:05 oleonard       It's very high-pressure hacking, like a scene from Swordfish
14:05 drojf          you can just try the git attach part again
14:04 drojf          gerundio: it's a very common error, you only have like 5 seconds
14:04 gerundio       lolol, ok I'll try
14:01 drojf          you have to save the file faster, that's all
14:01 drojf          http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Git_bz_configuration#git_bz_attach_-e_timeout
14:01 drojf          yes
14:01 drojf          that may be just the error when you need too long to save your file. wait
14:00 pastebot       "gerundio" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "this is what I got when I ran git gz" (21 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/241
14:00 drojf          i think you should do git format-patch as oleonard suggested
13:59 gerundio       I'll just submit the patch file which I got with git diff and add the necessary comments
13:59 drojf          (or not happening?)
13:58 drojf          what's happening?
13:58 gerundio       drojf, tried using git bz but I guess I don't have it correctly set
13:54 drojf          says drojf, having his first patch pushed somewhen around july 2012 :D
13:52 drojf          back in the days we even cave painted patches
13:51 drojf          we carved it in stone? :)
13:49 oleonard       ...because how did we do it before git-bz? :)
13:49 oleonard       No one says "Please use git-bz to attach your patch rather than manually uploading a patch which you generated via git format-patch"
13:49 drojf          i would not know about hundreds of manually attached patches that worked well of course :)
13:48 drojf          nope, i'm talking about comments on the bugtracker asking developers to resubmit patches in the correct format
13:47 oleonard       I'm assuming your problems were with the patches themselves rather than the way they were attached in Bugzilla
13:47 drojf          ok, my only encounters with manually attached patches were those with problems :)
13:46 oleonard       Meaning you don't have to use git-bz if you don't want to, it just makes it easier
13:46 oleonard       Well, attaching the patch manually to the bug is fine as long as it is in the right format
13:45 drojf          also what oleonard says, if you attach a patch manually we will have problems testing it
13:45 drojf          gerundio: if you have set up git and git bz correctly it does all the magic for you when you 'git bz attach -e <bugnumber> HEAD'. i just attaches a diff for your changes
13:44 oleonard       Patches attached to bugs should be generated by git
13:43 gerundio       btw, the submited file should be a regular diff?
13:42 user220        It happens with different clients, both xchat and konversation
13:42 user220        I suspect it's a power setting (vs screensaver), but I can't find any setting for it.
13:41 user220        the ping timeout irks me. I've prettly clearly nailed it down to my computer being unable to ping the oftc server after a certain period of time
13:40 gerundio       the PC goes to sleep when I'm afk
13:40 drojf          ah :)
13:40 gerundio       just my energy saving settings I guess :D
13:40 drojf          oh. then that's weird
13:40 gerundio       not really, Xchat, a regular IRC client for Windows
13:39 drojf          i think the webchat kicks you after some time
13:39 gerundio       so I didn't receive it the 1st time
13:39 drojf          are you in mibbit?
13:39 gerundio       my IRC connection drops when I'm away from the PC for 30+ minutes
13:39 drojf          and uncomment it
13:38 drojf          obsolete even
13:38 drojf          then check for the "Obsolte patch xxx" line when attaching the patch
13:38 gerundio       thanks
13:38 gerundio       I did
13:38 gerundio       its a complete rewrite :)
13:38 drojf          (you should have gotten the same message as a pm from huginn by now)
13:38 drojf          gerundio: yes, i would attach the patch to that bug. make sure to obsolete the other patch (remove the # when attaching your patch) if yours is completely rewritten and not just a followup based on the other
13:37 gerundio       so how about it, could I just submit a new attachment for that bug?
13:36 drojf          gerundio: yes, you should have received a message now :)
13:36 gerundio       drojf, did you read my question before? almost 2 hours ago...
13:25 drojf          lousy global internet connection
13:25 WaylonR        wasn't just you
13:25 WaylonR        same
13:24 drojf          lousy unstable internet connection
13:18 drojf          magnuse: that's where i got that information ;) searching there for koha
13:18 nengard        and yes he is (in my opinion)
13:18 magnuse        [off] http://tametheweb.com/about-michael-stephens/
13:17 nengard        yes I do
13:17 drojf          seems like nengard knows him
13:09 oleonard       Never heard of him.
13:07 drojf          is michael stephens some kind of library vip? "librarian, blogger" does not sound too amazing by itself. i'm starting to get annoyed by a lot of anouncements for a "tour" he seems to be doing in germany
12:58 magnuse        jcamins_away: signed off - thanks for a quick response!
12:49 * jcamins_away heads into the city.
12:40 huginn         drojf: The operation succeeded.
12:40 drojf          @later tell gerundio yes, i would attach the patch to that bug. make sure to obsolete the other patch (remove the # when attaching your patch) if yours is completely rewritten and not just a followup based on the other
12:39 * magnuse      will test
12:37 jcamins_away   Patch attached.
12:31 magnuse        ah
12:31 jcamins_away   Bread with pear in it.
12:31 magnuse        bread with pear in it, or shaped like a pear?
12:31 jcamins_away   (which is delicious)
12:31 jcamins_away   And eating pear bread.
12:31 jcamins_away   I'm preparing the patch now.
12:31 magnuse        jcamins_away: if you do a patch i'll sign off real quick :-)
12:30 tcohen         morning #koha
12:29 magnuse        jcamins++
12:29 jcamins_away   Some of the fallback logic was backwards.
12:28 jcamins_away   Fixed it.
12:28 magnuse        yay, sort of...
12:27 jcamins_away   I confirm the bug.
12:25 magnuse        kia ora oleonard
12:24 oleonard       Hi #koha
12:24 magnuse        woohoo! ;-)
12:24 jcamins_away   I'm installing nb-NO now.
12:22 magnuse        it shows up in git log...
12:21 jcamins_away   That's the one.
12:20 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8622 major, P3, ---, jcamins, Pushed to Master , Koha themes broken
12:20 magnuse        this? commit 33113e69c0eb2faccceb917ce19e26225259df8d Bug 8622: Fix theme fallback
12:19 magnuse        yay
12:19 jcamins_away   I'll give it a quick poke.
12:19 jcamins_away   (by design)
12:19 jcamins_away   ccsr doesn't have XSLTs.
12:19 jcamins_away   Something about XSLT fallbacks.
12:18 jcamins_away   No.
12:18 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8633 normal, P5 - low, ---, frederic, Pushed to Master , Translate script hardcoded to prog template
12:18 magnuse        jcamins_away: this one? commit 6a4cbbba6095791926d925cb14bd286dea16c835 Bug 8633 Manage OPAC alternate templates
12:16 jcamins_away   The last theming patch, the one that Paul pushed a week after the others, was to deal with that problem.
12:16 jcamins_away   Hm.
12:16 magnuse        jcamins_away: yup
12:16 jcamins_away   magnuse: are you sure you're on latest master?
12:15 magnuse        kf: probably, but i don't really have the time to investigate further now
12:14 kf             magnuse: ah, I think you figured it out - missing part in the translation script probably?
11:59 magnuse        i get that error when i try to search
11:59 magnuse        it works for english, but not when i switch to norwegian
11:59 magnuse        yeah, but i'm getting this nastiness: Could not create file parser context for file "/home/magnus/kohahead/koha-tmpl/opac-tmpl/ccsr/nb-NO/xslt/NORMARCslim2OPACResults.xsl": No such file or directory at /home/magnus/kohahead/C4/XSLT.pm line 218
11:58 kf             magnuse: some things will probably not work, some things are in the css I think :(
11:58 kf             becasue they won't take them into account right now I think - not sur eif it has been pushed
11:58 kf             to fix the translation scripts
11:58 kf             magnuse: there was a patch
11:57 magnuse        anyone else tried the ccsr theme with translations?
11:47 gerundio       can I simply just submit a new attachment there for revision?
11:46 gerundio       the reported bug which I've worked to come up with a new patch
11:46 huginn         04Bug 7973: enhancement, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, In Discussion , Allow for new type of LDAP authentication
11:46 gerundio       drojf, I was looking at http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7973
11:12 WaylonR        sorry, completely unrelated.. but omg.. coding to moby...
11:12 WaylonR        moby++
10:51 magnuse        phew
10:49 mtj            so 2012-11-22…. not 2012-10-22
10:49 mtj            aah, delayed 1 month -> http://koha-community.org/koha-newsletter-volume-3-issue-8-august-2012/#310
10:48 magnuse        mtj: you're kidding, right?
10:47 magnuse        gah, better start translating or something then :-)
10:47 mtj            ie: 3 days time
10:47 mtj            oops, i think it is 2012-10-22
10:46 magnuse        ta
10:46 mtj            yep :)
10:46 magnuse        the dashboard says "2012-10-22 - Release date for 3.10.0" - that should be 2012-11-22, right?
10:45 magnuse        guess it depends on your definition of "there", huginn
10:45 huginn         magnuse: YES!
10:45 magnuse        @arewethereyet
10:39 modabber       but cron job is not working as kohasau which is the kohauser
10:38 modabber       only then it works
10:38 modabber       i am manually giving indext command from the root user
10:38 slef           modabber: don't be sorry. I was talking to wahanui
10:38 modabber       i am uing koha, installed in debian
10:37 modabber       sorry
10:37 wahanui        my pleasure slef
10:37 slef           wahanui: thanks
10:36 wahanui        livecd is here http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Koha_LiveCD
10:36 slef           livecd?
10:35 huginn         drojf: The current temperature in Prenzlauer Berg, Berlin, Germany is 16.0°C (12:13 PM CEST on October 19, 2012). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 63%. Dew Point: 9.0°C. Pressure: 29.98 in 1015 hPa (Falling).
10:35 drojf          @wunder berlin, germany
10:32 vkm            saved in default folders
10:31 vkm            i think if simply saved the file without creating folder it may work
10:30 vkm            but when given link to a created new folder it does not works
10:29 mtj            hmm, i dont know then… sorry :/
10:28 vkm            image which i have saved in image folder is working fine
10:28 modabber       it is on lan
10:27 mtj            have you looked in the apache log to see why its failing?
10:27 vkm            where
10:27 mtj            hav you checked the permissions of the dir/file, etc?
10:26 mtj            in a browser?
10:26 mtj            does this link work for you ?
10:24 vkm            it is on LAN
10:24 vkm            the file is saved in the koha server itself
10:21 vkm            i have created one link from opac to my save file which can be open by the users
10:20 mtj            and, that url does not work for me
10:20 mtj            vkm, what are you trying to do?
10:16 vkm            www folder created in prog folder where images, en folders are there
10:15 vkm            172.23.14.200/opac-tmpl/prog/www/docs/book_indent.doc
10:14 vkm            please help i have created folder and given link from opacheader but it does not work the link is http://172.23.14.200/opac-tmpl/prog/www/docs/book_indent.doc
10:04 modabber       i am facing problem in setting permission for kohauser in debian
10:03 wahanui        salut, modabber
10:03 modabber       hi
10:01 huginn         04Bug 8633: normal, P5 - low, ---, frederic, Pushed to Master , Translate script hardcoded to prog template
10:01 magnuse        ah, not quite that simple - had to run "perl translate create nb-NO; perl translate install nb-NO" as decribed here: http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8633#c6 but now the new theme works for nb-NO too. and there is more translation work to do, it seems...
09:53 magnuse        hehe
09:53 drojf          :)
09:53 cjh            o/*\o
09:53 cjh            nawww
09:53 drojf          but still
09:53 drojf          too late
09:53 drojf          \o/
09:53 Maxie2012      Wow!  Thanks all for the info....really helped a lot :)
09:52 drojf          i would prefer to invest my thinking into other stuff
09:51 drojf          also, *cough*evil corporation*cough*
09:51 magnuse        drojf: well, you can do it, but you have to think about a lot of bits and pieces, ebs for persitent disk space, s3 for backup etc etc - i have not follewed that closely fr a couple years now
09:50 drojf          lol
09:50 cjh            for a small website aws just feels like it would be one web crawler away from backruptcy
09:49 drojf          magnuse: to be honest did not even understand half the stuff i read about aws. "what if i just want a server" was exactly what i was thinking when i had a look at what they offer
09:49 cjh            I dont like how they do their pricing either.
09:48 magnuse        drojf: aws is probably awesome when you need more servers, failovers etc. but the way i parsed it, it's not ideal when all you want is a single server
09:47 cjh            heh
09:47 drojf          every step away from amazon is a step in the right direction :P
09:47 drojf          cool!
09:47 drojf          cool"
09:47 magnuse        drojf: yup
09:46 drojf          magnuse: i remember reading your first post a while ago about the young nerdy librarian wanting to offer koha on amazon. so you ditched that for linode eventually?
09:44 drojf          ah. i tried the theme once, but not with translation
09:44 cjh            magnuse: awesome!
09:44 magnuse        ah problem probably solved, i was trying to view the opac as nb-NO, guess i have to install translations
09:43 * cjh          is, but not for Koha
09:43 * magnuse      is
09:42 drojf          are you all using linode?
09:42 magnuse        for just testing koha the cheapest one should be fine
09:42 cjh            s/there/they/*
09:41 magnuse        Maxie2012: the prices are on their front page: https://www.linode.com/ :-)
09:41 cjh            Maxie2012: http://www.linode.com/ scroll down to "Plans and availability" there start at 20USD/month.
09:40 Maxie2012      One LAST question....does Linode.com charge a lot for their hosting services?
09:39 Maxie2012      ok, great!  Will definitely take your advice on the package!
09:36 cjh            Maxie2012: once you have a host (running debian) you can follow http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Koha_3.8_on_Debian_Squeeze
09:36 cjh            Maxie2012: the .tar file and the debian package both contain the same version of koha, the package is just better suited to installing on debian. If you want to look through it then the .tar is fine.
09:35 drojf          magnuse: weird, it says it was pushed. but the error sounds exactly like the one for the missing patch
09:35 Maxie2012      No...as I said, I'm trying to engage someone to host a Linux server for me to install Koha on
09:34 magnuse        Maxie2012: see the wiki pages that were pointed out earliuer for info about the debian packages
09:34 magnuse        Maxie2012: no, tar files and packages are different things
09:33 mtj            Maxie2012, are you attempting to install Koha on your windows pc? coz that wont work
09:33 magnuse        drojf: i'm on uptodate master
09:33 mtj            hmm, Maxie2012 what are you trying to do here?
09:32 drojf          magnuse: from the comments one patch was missing at some point
09:32 Maxie2012      sorry...I downloaded the koha-3.08.05.tar from the http://koha-community.org/support/...is that the same as the debian package you are referring to?
09:31 mtj            a perl module to manip a git repo
09:31 cjh            oh wow.
09:30 mtj            hey, this looks snazzy  -> http://search.cpan.org/~book/Git-Repository-1.27/lib/Git/Repository/Tutorial.pod
09:30 huginn         04Bug 8597: enhancement, P5 - low, ---, fcapovilla, Pushed to Master , New theme for the OPAC with a mobile view
09:30 magnuse        hm, i'm trying to activate the ccsr theme on master, based on instructions here: http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8597#c60 but i get a lot of 404s for css and js files - anyone got any tips? head.bibkat.no
09:28 cjh            http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Koha_3.8_on_Debian_Squeeze
09:28 wahanui        i guess packages is at http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Debian
09:28 drojf          packages?
09:28 mtj            :)
09:27 mtj            finished....
09:27 mtj            # apt-get install koha-common
09:27 mtj            if you use the debian package for Koha, it does all that for you
09:27 cjh            Maxie2012: yes, once you have a server you may have to install those. The debian package manager (apt-get) makes this easy though.
09:26 Maxie2012      Ok...on top of Debian, I read that I need to download all the other software as well i.e. Apache, MySql, Perl etc?
09:25 mtj            i have one in tokyo, works perfect
09:23 cjh            they will give you a linux server you can ssh to (connect remotely), from this you can install Koha yourself.
09:22 cjh            Maxie2012: they have various sites http://www.linode.com/speedtest/
09:21 Maxie2012      Where is linode.com based?  Would they have an issue supporting me way out here in Singapore?
09:20 drojf          Maxie2012: that is good. then you would either have to wait until you have it, or try koha in a virtual machine running debian on top of your windows system before you have the server ready
09:20 cjh            linode are fantastic.
09:19 Maxie2012      I am currently trying to engage someone to host a Linux server for me and I have even specified that I want Debian.
09:19 mtj            Maxie2012, i use linode.com for Koha hosting , they are great
09:19 drojf          gerundio: http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Version_Control_Using_Git
09:19 gerundio       this is it, right?
09:19 gerundio       http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Koha_Dev_Env_Setup
09:18 gerundio       not really, I was trying out with a test installation :)
09:18 drojf          gerundio: oh i thought you would have been working with git already. one sec
09:18 Maxie2012      No, I do not have the server yet.  I have been trying to go through whatever documentation available on the web, including koha-community.org, so as to understand the hardware/software requirements.
09:17 gerundio       but 1st off I need to checkout a git clone, right?
09:15 drojf          gerundio: yes
09:15 gerundio       I'm under linux :)
09:14 magnuse        :-)
09:14 kf             only under linux!!
09:14 kf             sorry
09:14 kf             yep typo
09:14 kf             oups
09:14 gerundio       all I have to do is follow those instructions in the page you sent me yesterday, right? http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Git_bz_configuration
09:14 magnuse        kf did probably not mean to say "you can only install koha under windows"...
09:13 drojf          gerundio: cool! thanks for your work
09:13 drojf          Maxie2012: you would want your server to run debian gnu/linux. debian squeeze to be precise. you would log into your server via ssh and do the installation there. you cannot use koha on windows at all
09:13 gerundio       drojf, hi, back today and working to submit the patch
09:13 kf             so if you only wanted to take a look at the files and install text files that is ok in windows, but for installing you need a linux environment of some kind
09:13 kf             Maxie2012: you can only install koha under windows. You could unapck it with the right tool, but it would not work
09:12 drojf          Maxie2012: so you do not have a server yet?
09:12 Maxie2012      I am in the process of engaging someone to host a server for me to install Koha on
09:11 Maxie2012      Yes....well, technically speaking I downloaded it to my desktop PC...
09:10 drojf          Maxie2012: is windows running on your server?
09:09 Maxie2012      I have downloaded the Ver 3.8.05 package, but have not been able to unpack it as I'm not on Linux, but on a Windows 7 environment.  I am assuming I need to be in Linux to unpack?
09:06 Maxie2012      Hi!  Was wondering if anybody can help me?  I'm new to Koha and Linux but would like to install Koha onto a cloud based server and really need help on how to start...I posted this earlier but my connection dropped, so I'm not sure if anyone sent me a response....sorry:(
09:01 WaylonR        [off] not that diluted liblime koha
09:01 WaylonR        drojf, nom community-koha
09:01 drojf          oh, that's right lol
09:01 WaylonR        well. there you go then.
09:00 kf             WaylonR: well, drojf is a library :P
08:57 magnuse        at least it's consistent
08:57 wahanui        koha has karma of -44
08:57 magnuse        karma for koha?
08:57 wahanui        koha has karma of -44
08:57 magnuse        karma for koha?
08:56 magnuse        drojf: yup! and we can find lots and lots of places where koha is bringing state of the art library tech to places that could not afford it with proprietary systems
08:56 WaylonR        drojf, id suggest finding a library that would nom us.
08:56 mtj            oops, wahanui is running a karma plugin too?!
08:56 drojf          magnuse: that was my thought. koha enables people and institutions to use professional library automation that would not have had that opportunity without (this piece of) free software
08:55 magnuse        woohoo!
08:55 Viktor         magnuse - Yep :) But I'm currently on my work computer that is lock-down galore.
08:54 magnuse        drojf: libraries are important, and we help libraries :-)
08:53 magnuse        and Viktor, getting a good irc client like xchat or something will save you some frustrations in the long run :-)
08:53 drojf          that are some big names that got that award before :) maybe we are not as important to mankind as tor or cc
08:52 magnuse        that was for Viktor :-)
08:52 wahanui        i heard logs was http://irc.koha-community.org/irclog/koha/
08:52 magnuse        logs?
08:52 mtj            WaylonR, only huginn runs the karma plugin, wahanui is just chatting to you...
08:50 drojf          https://www.fsf.org/news/the-free-software-foundation-opens-nominations-for-the-15th-annual-free-software-awards
08:50 WaylonR        drojf, think it would be fine, honestly. as long as theres no rule about it.
08:49 WaylonR        ah.. two karma dbs.
08:49 huginn         rangi: Karma for "koha" has been increased 33 times and decreased 3 times for a total karma of 30.
08:49 rangi          @karma koha
08:49 wahanui        community-koha has neutral karma
08:49 WaylonR        karma for community-koha?
08:48 kf             hm it depends on who does it maybe? I am not sure how that works
08:48 wahanui        koha-community has neutral karma
08:48 WaylonR        karma for koha-community?
08:48 wahanui        koha has karma of -44
08:48 WaylonR        karma for koha?
08:48 drojf          is it too much self-praise to nominate koha for the free software award for projects of social benefit?
08:48 Viktor         I like that MS have dared to move away from the traditional interface, but I really hope people won't try to use touchscreens on desktop.
08:46 wahanui        i think windows8 is due in a few days, may it bring us lots of new linux users. :)
08:46 WaylonR        windows8?
08:46 WaylonR        didn't miss much. only us askign the bot about windows8.
08:44 Viktor         (Lost the connection while I was away so I can't see if there was other stuff said)
08:43 Viktor         Thanks magnuse
08:42 magnuse        Viktor: have a look at http://manual.koha-community.org/3.8/en/administration.html#AutoLocation for current ip restriction functionality
08:41 WaylonR        huh.
08:41 wahanui        sirsidynix has neutral karma
08:41 magnuse        karma for sirsidynix
08:41 WaylonR        ahh
08:41 magnuse        karme for sirsidynix
08:41 WaylonR        ... im spelling it wrong/
08:40 wahanui        siridynix has neutral karma
08:40 WaylonR        karma for siridynix
08:40 WaylonR        hmmm...
08:40 wahanui        liblime has karma of -5
08:40 WaylonR        karma for liblime
08:40 wahanui        ptfs has karma of -7
08:40 WaylonR        karma for PTFS
08:40 WaylonR        ah.
08:40 wahanui        waylon has karma of 1
08:40 WaylonR        karma for Waylon
08:40 wahanui        waylonr has neutral karma
08:40 WaylonR        karma for WaylonR
08:40 * WaylonR      idly wonders.
08:39 drojf          i bet that is going to decrease a lot more
08:39 WaylonR        guys.... this needs some karma swing here.
08:39 wahanui        windows8 has karma of -1
08:39 WaylonR        karma for windows8?
08:39 WaylonR        wahanui, help
08:39 wahanui        windows8 is due in a few days, may it bring us lots of new linux users. :)
08:39 WaylonR        windows8?
08:39 WaylonR        windows8 is due in a few days, may it bring us lots of new linux users. :)
08:38 WaylonR        good...
08:38 wahanui        solr is fast, really fast, faster than me! And koha wiki has a page about it, found at http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Solr/Lucene_Documentation
08:38 WaylonR        solr?
08:38 WaylonR        karma?
08:38 WaylonR        windows8?
08:38 WaylonR        windows8--
08:36 magnuse        lol
08:35 drojf          windows 8 is due in a few days. cool. may it bring us lots of new linux users :)
08:32 WaylonR        crazy == cool ? yes : no
08:31 magnuse        crazy = cool :-)
08:31 drojf          s/crazy/cool/
08:30 drojf          i'm all for making stuff work for crazy scripts and languages
08:29 drojf          ah yes the alphabet. it's a cool patch!
08:29 drojf          did i sleepwalk-signoff again? :)
08:28 magnuse        drojf++ for another signoff
08:27 drojf          hei magnuse :)
08:26 magnuse        kia ora drojf!
08:25 drojf          good day #koha
08:08 magnuse        Viktor: have a look at http://manual.koha-community.org/3.8/en/administration.html#AutoLocation for current ip restriction functionality
08:07 magnuse        he didn't log off, though
08:07 kf             now I missed Viktor
08:07 kf             oh
08:06 Viktor         Thanks guys! I´ll have to up the blood sugar level now - time for coffebreak :)
08:04 magnuse        yay
08:04 Viktor         If we do get additional funding that might be something we want to have created in 2013. I´ll take notes in Pivotal and add it to the list.
08:03 magnuse        i think of it as temporarily adding a new ip to the allowed IPs, but yeah something like that
08:03 Viktor         So we just add the possibility of lifting the restriction by doing something like email verification, security question and so on(?) I like that.
08:02 Viktor         Nice - magnuse
08:02 magnuse        if the current ip restriction in koha works for the staff client, it shouldn't be too hard to add new ones and require email verification before they are usable, i think
08:00 magnuse        some kind of temporary ip restriction, then
08:00 magnuse        cool
08:00 Viktor         While still keeping it accessible from the public net.
07:59 Viktor         So: added security for staff users who arrive frow weird new IPs is my top priority.
07:58 Viktor         I know people love the idea of being able to log in from home, but many have dynamic IPs.
07:58 Viktor         I think it would be good for patrons too actually. It shows that the library takes their privacy seriously. But for opac it should be optional for the users - they move around much more than staff.
07:57 magnuse        or patrons in the opac too?
07:56 Viktor         Thanks rangi & magnuse
07:56 magnuse        Viktor: you are thinking of staff users, right?
07:56 rangi          you can restrict at the firewall too, or in apache
07:56 magnuse        other than that it's just plain username/password
07:55 magnuse        Viktor: it's possible to restrict access to the staff client to a set of IP adresses (but i have not checked it actually works)
07:53 Viktor         Especially if they try to log in from a new geographical area. Users often select not so good passwords :)
07:52 Viktor         I think it would be a good idea to make users login in from new IPs answer a security question, reply to an e-mail or something like that.
07:51 Viktor         Thansk WaylonR Thinking about setting up a RFC for that but would be akward if I just missed whats there :)
07:51 WaylonR        or LDAP.
07:51 WaylonR        as far as i know Viktor .. just the user/pass/ip restriction system.
07:50 Viktor         Just popping in with a question: do we have two-step verification during login to staff that I don't know of?
07:50 WaylonR        its possible that some libraries who don't want to use the multibranchuser feature, want the multibranchselect feature?
07:49 WaylonR        hmm .maybe not seperate concept, but requiring of a different Syspref?
07:49 Viktor         Hi!
07:48 WaylonR        Hey all. just thought....  MultiBranch "assigning multiple branches to a patron" is a seperate concept to MultiBranchSelect "Allow searching of multiple branches from advanced search (without categories)" yes?
07:21 francharb      hello #koha
07:10 gaetan_B       hello
07:00 Maxie2012      I wasn't even able to Unpack the Koha package that I downloaded...
06:59 Maxie2012      Hi!  I am very interested to install Koha (have already downloaded Ver 3.8.05), but am new to Koha and the Linux environment. I am also looking to host it on a Cloud platform - currently sourcing for a suitable vendor/site, and already have a trial site to install Koha.  However, I have no idea how to start!  Can anybody help me please??
06:44 reiveune       hello
06:35 magnuse        bonjour alex_a
06:32 alex_a         bonjour tout le monde
06:27 rangi          but signoffs should be against master
06:27 rangi          the rmmaints will ask for version specific patches if they are needed
06:27 rangi          then it gets cherry picked back
06:27 rangi          everyone should always test and develop against master
06:26 rangi          wajasu: yes he did
05:14 wajasu         i'm not going to comment. it will only confuse folks.  so i am bailing out on this for now.
04:47 mtj            hopefully we'll get the the XSS stuff sorted into 3.8/3.6 in the next few days
04:47 wajasu         ok, i will just attach my reconciled patch for 3.6.x for the 1st patch, and apply/test against master, and comment at the bottom.
04:45 mtj            yep
04:44 wajasu         between 3.8.x and master, right?
04:44 mtj            a quick eyeball (and some testing) says the difference is zero between versions
04:42 mtj            he prolly tested against 3.8
04:41 wajasu         i had to reconcile his 1st patch for 3.6.x
04:40 wajasu         for his 1st two patches
04:39 wajasu         but did cjh test against master is the question
04:36 mtj            so, i might flick the version to reflect that
04:36 mtj            wajasu, hmm i actually tested those against master
04:32 cait           mtj: glad you feel better
04:32 wajasu         rangi: 3652 is now signed off for 3.8.x (shall i continue against 3.6.x and master)?
04:32 mtj            ive been sick for 2 weeks, looking forward to a beer this weekend
04:31 mtj            thanx cait
04:26 cait           have a nice weekend nz :)
04:24 wajasu         cjh: funny, i was just testing 3652 on 3.6.x branch.
04:16 mtj            cool, have a good one
04:16 cjh            heading home, have a good weekend/weekday everyone :)
04:16 cjh            heh, maybe we should start a Koha choccy-fish-fund.
04:14 mtj            choccy fish in the mail
04:13 cjh            heh, sadly quotes were always escaped so I couldnt say anything interesting.
04:13 mtj            d00d, thats a well crazy hack :p
04:12 cjh            awesome :)
04:12 mtj            yep, thats right for me, yr patch fixes it on ff.16
04:11 cjh            chrome it never worked for me, chrome is too smart..
04:10 cjh            ff 16 it should work before the patch, not after.
04:10 mtj            oops, it just did on ff.16 :/
04:09 mtj            well, goods news is that the jscript popup hack doesnt seem to work for me, on chrome or ff.16
04:09 mtj            heya chris
04:04 huginn         04Bug 3652: critical, P1 - high, ---, chrish, Signed Off , XSS vulnerabilities
04:04 cjh            jcamins_away: if you have some time I would like to hear your opinions re: my notes on http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=3652#c36
04:03 cjh            mtj: thanks for the signoff
03:32 wajasu         hiya
03:31 Oak            kia ora #koha
00:34 * drojf        goes to bed
00:11 * rangi        goes for lunch
00:11 rangi          in discussion is probably good
00:10 rangi          yep
00:10 drojf          or that. don't want to discourage her, but needs sign off is slightly confusing :)
00:09 rangi          id like to encourage her, first patch and all
00:09 rangi          in discussion maybe
00:08 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8701 normal, P5 - low, ---, sandbergja, Needs Signoff , Help for OpacHiddenItems pref should not point to text in install directory
00:08 drojf          shouldn't bug 8701 be set to failed QA or something? seems like a change is expected, not a sign off