Time Nick Message 00:37 * Oak waves 00:38 Oak so the first two developers/coders of Koha were Chris Cormack (rangi) and Olwen Williams? 00:38 Oak rangi? 00:38 wahanui I LIKE ALMONDS! HAVE SOME NUTS! 00:41 rangi yep 00:42 Oak :) cool 00:42 Oak http://lists.nongnu.org/archive/html/koha-devel/2002-04/msg00112.html 00:44 rangi http://git.koha-community.org/stats/koha-master/authors.html# 00:44 rangi click on the first commit column to sort 00:44 Oak on my MLIS viva, the viva guy asked me who Koha, I said you mean who started work on it? he said yes, I said Chris Cormack. he said no it was a lady, I said no I believe Chris was the very first... 00:45 Oak ah cool 00:46 Oak so i just remembered his question after 2-3 weeks at 5:30AM and just checked... :) 00:49 Oak now i go back to sleep 00:51 Oak but yes, the next time someone asks me, i'll take two names :) yours and hers. 00:51 Oak now I sleep. 00:51 * Oak waves 00:53 ibeardslee I understand that Katipo (original company commissioned to do the work) was run by a woman, and the Horowhenua Library who paid for the original was run by a woman at the time. 00:53 ibeardslee rangi: is that correct? 00:55 rangi that's right 00:55 wahanui I know. 00:56 rangi http://journal.code4lib.org/articles/1638 00:56 ibeardslee Oak: ^^ maybe that's what they meant. 00:57 eythian wahanui: I know is also <reply>no it's not. 00:57 wahanui OK, eythian. 00:57 eythian err 00:57 eythian wahanui: forget I know 00:57 wahanui eythian: I forgot i know 00:57 eythian wahanui: that's right is also <reply>no it's not. 00:57 wahanui okay, eythian. 00:57 ibeardslee heh .. trouble maker 00:58 eythian wahanui: ibeardslee is a trouble maker. 00:58 wahanui ...but ibeardslee is closer to the merengues at BOC... 00:58 eythian wahanui: ibeardslee is also a trouble maker. 00:58 wahanui okay, eythian. 07:14 cait-m @quote random 07:14 huginn cait-m: Quote #35: "<sekjal> it seemed like a good idea at the time...." (added by jwagner at 06:58 PM, September 17, 2009) 07:16 drojfx hi cait-m 07:23 mveron Good daytime #koha 07:25 drojfx @wunder berlin, germany 07:25 huginn drojfx: The current temperature in Prenzlauer Berg, Berlin, Germany is 6.2°C (9:13 AM CEST on October 16, 2012). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 82%. Dew Point: 3.0°C. Windchill: 4.0°C. Pressure: 29.86 in 1011 hPa (Steady). 07:25 drojfx hi mveron 07:25 magnuse @wunder boo 07:25 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is -1.0°C (8:50 AM CEST on October 16, 2012). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 80%. Dew Point: -4.0°C. Windchill: -7.0°C. Pressure: 29.71 in 1006 hPa (Steady). 07:25 mveron @wunder Allschwil 07:25 huginn mveron: The current temperature in Basel, Switzerland is 3.8°C (9:02 AM CEST on October 16, 2012). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 93%. Dew Point: 3.0°C. Windchill: 4.0°C. Pressure: 29.95 in 1014 hPa (Steady). 07:26 mveron hi drojfx :-) 07:27 * mveron waves to cait-m :-) 07:28 cait-m :-) 07:28 cait-m afk now 07:30 * mveron is cts now, close to screen, should put the glasses 07:41 * drojfx has a cold, puts on a mask and sits in the quarantine corner 08:03 jcamins_away rangi: eythian: either of you around? 08:28 paul_p good morning #koha 08:32 jcamins_away Good morning, paul_p. 08:33 paul_p hello jcamins_away good (very early) morning ! 08:35 jcamins_away Too early, I'd say. 08:39 Viktor Is magnuse by the keyboard? Server/s seems down :/ 08:39 magnuse ouch! 08:39 Viktor Just went offline at a demo 08:39 drojf frozen :P 08:43 magnuse Viktor: i'm on it! 08:44 Viktor (great magnuse - we hade just logged into viktor.priv.bibkat.no and typed "viktor" into checkhout-box. Got a software error which is very unusual) 08:45 * jcamins_away offers up a counter patch for bug 8990. 08:45 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8990 was not found. 08:45 jcamins_away Bug 8890 08:45 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8890 blocker, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Needs Signoff , Packages can't be built on master, db dependent test 08:45 jcamins_away That one. 08:45 Viktor Sorry people for the public discussion of this - it was just the quickest way. 08:47 jcamins_away paul_p: is joubu around? 08:48 rangi jcamins_away: am now 08:50 Viktor magnuse - up and running now. Thanks :) Lets switch to email with reports on what happened :) 08:50 magnuse Viktor: sure :-) 09:04 Viktor slowed down and then died again :( magnuse 09:04 magnuse Viktor: yup, i see it 09:04 Viktor Exciting to see the first fallthrough we've had with the server :) 09:09 rangi OOMing? 09:22 Viktor rangi Seems to be some kind of overload of the server. Just wonder if it's a targetet attack or just some botnet playing around. 09:24 magnuse apache was doing a lot of work 09:24 magnuse but rebuild_zebra seemed to be using a lot of cpu too 11:20 Herwig Hey Koha people 11:22 slef hey Herwig 11:26 Herwig Is there a user who can help me ... i just imported a group of marc files in my koha now it is imported but how do i get all these files an item location ... for the Batch item modification i need a item number file ... i did try putting the numbers in a txt file but that did not work ... anny tips :oP 11:36 slef Herwig: you view each record in the admin and add items to them on their item tabs. 11:36 slef Herwig: I think I might have put the item records (952 tags) into the marc files before importing them. 11:37 Herwig i wanna do them in group cause i have 50000 items 11:38 Herwig i look at the 952 just a sec 11:38 slef @marc 952 11:38 wahanui The 952 field is used by Koha to store item data in MARC21 and is described at http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Holdings_data_fields_%289xx%29 11:38 huginn slef: unknown tag 952 11:40 Herwig gonna try that thx for the tip 12:02 Herwig Hmz i did put my items.homebranch and items.holdingbranch in 952$a en p52$b but afther importing the marc file no items there hmz 12:15 oleonard Hey #koha 12:22 Herwig ;) 13:08 oleonard Sometimes people emailing the mailing list just need a good reference interview. 13:12 cait-m hi koha 13:14 trea hi cait-m 13:28 * magnuse waves 13:42 cait-m :-) 13:44 oleonard Did something change in git resulting in "git am --abort" leaving unstaged changes? 13:44 oleonard I don't remember it working this way before 13:44 jcamins_away oleonard: that's the way it's always been, if there's a conflict. 13:45 oleonard Really? I thought abort really meant abort. "To restore the original branch and stop patching run "git am --abort"" 13:46 jcamins_away Yeah, it trips me up every time. 13:50 cait-m me too 13:50 cait-m matts around? 13:51 matts hello cait-m 13:51 matts i'm around 13:51 cait-m my train connection is via strasbourg today - made me think if you 13:51 cait-m :-) 13:52 matts héhé... Where are you headed to ? 13:52 cait-m going home from saarbrücken 13:53 matts And it's through Strasbourg ? Not an direct Germany trip ? 13:53 cait-m people next table are talking french :-) 13:53 cait-m yep not direct 13:53 cait-m faster this way 13:54 matts Not direct is faster... seems strange, but ok :) 13:54 cait-m ok time to head to my platform 13:54 cait-m bbl 14:04 cait-m matts - sarreguemines 14:05 cait-m the french name for saarbrücken i think 14:06 matts cait-m, nope, saarbrücken is Sarrebruck :) 14:06 cait-m hmm ok 14:06 matts Sarreguemines is a different (isolated) town 14:07 cait-m it said tjat on the sifn above 14:08 cait-m sign 14:08 cait-m i was guessing :-) 14:19 tweetbot` [off] twitter: @shumailakhan08: "@kohails I want some help in koha , Can anyone please help me ?" 14:20 cait-m on twitter? 14:25 drojfx support via twitter sounds like a great idea 14:27 tweetbot` [off] twitter: @oleonard: "@shumailakhan08, @kohails is not a person, it's a community. Try the mailing list or IRC to get assistance. http://t.co/l6rWuVXA #kohails" 14:27 oleonard yes, we're always looking for ways to draw out the "is zebra running" conversation over the course of hours via Twitter 14:28 drojfx lol 14:28 cait-m x? 14:29 cait-m are you one of the xmen now? 14:29 oleonard drojf version X? 14:29 drojfx cait-m: on the tablet while notebook running too 14:30 cait-m scary 14:30 cait-m ah 14:30 drojfx heh 14:30 cait-m thats not very exciting 14:31 drojfx i know :( i may have some fever, is that cool? 14:32 drojfx i hope drojf39°C is not taken ;) 15:15 tweetbot` [off] twitter: @jsicot: "je sens que je vais avoir mal à la tête… #gestionDesRelances #kohails" 15:21 Morthland Is there a way to import my own fonts into the patron card creator? 15:21 jcamins No. 15:22 Morthland Would it be worth taking a look at the code? 15:22 jcamins (long answer: yes, but I think it would require a fair amount of coding, and the only person who knows that section of the code isn't going to be around until the end of December at the earliest) 15:23 Morthland Could I replace one of the TTFS or OTFS for one of the fonts available by default on the koha server? 15:24 jcamins I don't know. 15:24 Morthland I will try that then. 15:24 jcamins I suspect you'll find that won't work, though. 15:25 Morthland I don't know where else the font could be pulled from. I can't find any in the Koha package. 15:25 Morthland I think I will look at the code first, though. 15:25 jcamins Of course not. 15:25 jcamins They're PS fonts. 15:25 Morthland PS? 15:25 Morthland Right. 15:25 jcamins Postscript. 15:25 jcamins Koha uses PDF for patron cards. 15:27 jcamins Morthland: out of curiosity, why is changing the font so important? 15:27 libsysguy jcamins he wants to use ComicSans 15:28 libsysguy :p jk Morthland 15:28 Morthland ha. 15:28 Morthland Our institution has an official font. 15:28 Morthland Admin wants it on the IDs 15:28 * jcamins would create the cards with something other than Koha. 15:28 libsysguy ^^ 15:28 jcamins LibreOffice, perhaps. 15:28 jcamins Nice mail merge. 15:29 Morthland I don't know how to import from excel. 15:29 jcamins Huh? 15:30 Morthland I don't want to do them individually. 15:30 jcamins That's why you do a mail merge. 15:30 jcamins Out of curiosity, how many patrons? 15:30 Morthland I don't know what a Mail Merge is. 15:30 Morthland Should be about 50 15:31 * jcamins would learn about mail merge or do it individually. 15:32 Morthland Googling mail merge 15:32 jcamins I'd say you're looking at several orders of magnitude more work to hack the server, and a good chance of breaking your production system. 15:32 jcamins Note: I haven't tried, but that's my gut instinct. 15:32 libsysguy Morthland: what is your timeframe? 15:33 jcamins That I could do fifty cards by hand faster than I could change the code. 15:33 libsysguy also what jcamins just said 15:33 jcamins Actually, I _did_ do fifty cards by hand, now that I think about it. 15:34 jcamins It was faster than using the patron card creator. 15:34 jcamins 45 cards to be precise... it was 3 pages of 15. 15:38 drojf uh, why do i get to translate norwegian terms in pootle for 3.6? 15:38 jcamins drojf: NORMARC. 15:38 wahanui i guess normarc is at http://www.nb.no/fag/kompetansesenter/kunnskapsorganisering/dnk/normarc or mostly a subset of marc21 15:39 jcamins magnuse fixed some bugs and now the strings are fuzzy again. 15:43 drojf okay then :) 15:55 magnuse just ignore (copy) them :-) 16:01 magnuse drojf: if i had the time i would fix Bug 7939... 16:01 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7939 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, frederic, NEW , Separate po files for different MARC dialects 16:10 drojf magnuse: i have actually translated them so far. i bet there are a lot of people cataloguing normarc in german ;) 16:10 drojf just saw that they were just copied before 16:13 drojf hm funny. some were translated, others just copied. i guess it won't be much fun to use that now 16:19 jcamins drojf: let's consider this. 16:20 jcamins Ready? 16:20 jcamins MARC = not fun 16:20 jcamins MARC21 = somewhat less fun 16:20 jcamins NORMARC = like MARC21, only worse 16:20 oleonard Do UNIMARC now! 16:20 jcamins Ergo, NORMARC = -fun 16:20 drojf lol 16:21 jcamins oleonard: I think UNIMARC is probably around the MARC21 levels of fun. 16:27 oleonard This is what happens at international library conferences: "My MARC is worse!" "No, my MARC is worse!" 16:28 nengard LOL 16:40 jenkins_koha Starting build #908 for job Koha_master (previous build: FIXED) 16:46 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 7143 follow-up replace tabs by 4 spaces <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=a327747c1052e940b24c8cf4ce4deb6dc738d3ae> / Bug 7143 : New committer to history <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=9fd6082ca9adef2da93d758c15c9bd0e36e5b709> / Bug 7143: Adding new developers to the history file <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=971c872419f9 17:50 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #908: SUCCESS in 1 hr 9 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/908/ 17:50 jenkins_koha * nengard: :x 17:50 jenkins_koha * Chris Cormack: Bug 7143: Adding new developers to the history file 17:50 jenkins_koha * Chris Cormack: Bug 7143 : New committer to history 17:50 jenkins_koha * Paul Poulain: Bug 7143 follow-up replace tabs by 4 spaces 17:50 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7143 trivial, P5 - low, ---, katrin.fischer, ASSIGNED , Bug for tracking changes to the about page 17:52 jcamins :x? 18:19 trea hey #koha 18:26 rangi Gah 18:26 rangi Morning 18:26 jcamins Gah mornin' to you too. 18:27 oleonard My suggestion to @shumailakhan08 on Twitter resulted only in @shumailakhan08 asking *me* for help :| 18:27 jcamins oleonard: I'm shocked. 18:28 oleonard Like I suggested asking a robot. 18:29 jcamins I suggest "if you send an e-mail to the mailing list or ask on IRC you might get help" is a good response. 18:29 oleonard As I did. We'll see. 18:30 drojf lol oleonard who would have expected that. you said wanted to do the "is zebra running" via twitter :P 18:32 drojf if we had a google group on the other hand… 18:32 jcamins lol 18:33 rangi Starter for 5 points 18:34 rangi What is wrong with this commit message 18:34 rangi http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commit;h=7d2dc13db02175aa6e009645fa01fac403c045a7 18:34 jcamins :x? 18:34 jcamins Yeah, I wondered about that. 18:35 rangi Yep no bug number 18:36 rangi Release notes will miss it, ill amend if I pick it 18:43 nengard hmmmm how did i do that? 18:43 nengard or was it the sign off person who did that? 18:43 rangi I think so 18:44 rangi Unless you have started using vim 18:44 nengard I use vi for writing commit messages 18:44 nengard :q 18:44 nengard not :x 18:46 oleonard :x wasn't a smiley of you sealing it with a kiss? 18:48 nengard not on purpose :) 18:49 rangi http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/attachment.cgi?id=12802 18:49 rangi No x 18:49 rangi But still no bug number 18:50 jcamins There's a bug number in the subject. 18:50 rangi Ah Yep 18:51 rangi So yeah was when being pushed 18:51 rangi My stop brb 18:56 oleonard [off] I'm still getting over the "use RFID with Koha" message on the list... Maybe next time lead with "Don't know how to configure Apache?" 18:59 jcamins [off] I hadn't noticed that. I didn't bother reading the message, since I have nothing to say on the subject of RFID. 19:03 rangi back 19:05 rambutan If we may, a small tribute to "Ada Lovelace Day" today, October 16th. Ada was, of course, the progenatory of one of the greatest programming languages in the world. 19:07 oleonard You missed the 45 minutes of silence in her honor rambutan. It was between 10:30 and 11:15 this morning! 19:09 rangi ie all of them 19:10 rangi writer of the first algorithm and all that :) 19:14 rambutan Ah, well, I was working between 10:30 and 11:15. 19:20 cait-m_ @wunder konstanz 19:20 huginn cait-m_: The current temperature in Konstanz, Germany is 9.0°C (9:00 PM CEST on October 16, 2012). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 87%. Dew Point: 7.0°C. Pressure: 29.98 in 1015 hPa (Rising). 19:56 oleonard Violating coding guidelines and making strings untranslatable should fail a patch! 19:56 oleonard We should have this down by now. 19:57 jcamins oleonard: doesn't it? 19:58 oleonard Not for the transport cost matrix feature 19:59 jcamins Yuck. 19:59 rangi hmm the tests should catch that 19:59 rangi has it been pushed oleonard ? 19:59 oleonard do the tests catch it if it's in JavaScript? 20:00 rangi ah perhaps not 20:00 rangi is it in a .js 20:00 rangi ? 20:00 oleonard No, in the template. 20:00 oleonard And yes it has been pushed. 20:00 rangi ahh then yes, yes it should 20:01 rangi lemme look 20:01 oleonard admin/transport-cost-matrix.tt line 12 20:02 reiveune1 bye 20:03 rangi hmm test is missing it, 20:03 rangi but yeah, that is untranslatable 20:04 oleonard I'm glad that the test is at least *supposed* to catch it :) 20:04 rangi yup 20:05 magnuse testing++ 20:11 oleonard Bye #koha 20:36 tweetbot` [off] twitter: @ranginui: "Unsung heroes of Koha 26 - The Ada Lovelace Day Edition http://t.co/vJm1A6m8 #kohails" 20:58 eythian hi 20:58 cait hi 21:00 rangi hi 21:02 drojf hi 21:02 * drojf jumps on the bandwagon 21:08 * cait takes apart her keyboard 21:09 * wizzyrea waves 21:09 eythian hi wizzyrea. 21:09 eythian so, you want to be here so much you're willing to move in right next to me huh? That's dedication ;) 21:09 wizzyrea LOL 21:10 wizzyrea well, we do like beer 21:10 wizzyrea it could be nice 21:10 eythian heh 21:10 wizzyrea lol. 21:11 jcamins_away cait: what did it ever do to you? 21:12 cait the s had stopped working 21:12 cait now it's ok :) 21:14 eythian the has topped working eh? 21:14 eythian damn, ruined my own lame joke 21:19 cait heh 21:20 magnuse cait: home at last? 21:20 cait yep :) 21:20 magnuse woohoo :-) 21:22 * magnuse wishes #koha a good night or other time of the day 21:22 rangi cya magnuse 21:22 trea bye magnuse! 21:23 eythian bye 21:24 cait th 21:41 tweetbot` [off] twitter: @kohails: "#kohails Unsung heroes of Koha 26 – The Ada Lovelace Day Edition http://t.co/4z59eEVo" 21:50 drojf "Please solve the issue. " is a sentence i'd like to see stitched onto a pillow case more often. 22:03 eythian drojf: what do you use your pillows for? 22:05 drojf eythian: in that case, to remind me of the humbleness within the koha community ;) 22:05 eythian haha 22:07 drojf when modifying a marc framework field there is "(if you select a value here, the indicators will be limited to the authorized value list)". does that actually work? i was slightly thrilled when i saw it and anticipated pull down menus for indicators, but they did not really turn up 22:07 cait hm 22:07 cait was that pushed? 22:08 cait ah, I was looking at a 3.6 today, probably not there 22:08 cait ignore me 22:08 drojf i just found it in 3.8.5 22:08 cait should sleep :) 22:08 cait good night all :) 22:08 drojf good night cait 22:08 eythian bye cait 22:08 jcamins_away drojf: that'd be a cool feature. 22:09 * jcamins_away dashes off to pick up lots of veggies. 22:09 drojf jcamins_away: yes, i would love it 22:09 drojf i wonder what the text is supposed to mean then 22:11 cait jcamins_away: don't forget the photo!! 22:12 drojf veggie pr0n? 22:14 cait on fb even :P 22:14 cait now I am really gone :) 23:27 ibeardslee rangi: WR #200160 23:28 ibeardslee awesome 23:28 eythian ibeardslee: wormy doesn't live here. 23:29 ibeardslee yeah .. mutter windows channels brain fade .. hey lunch time 23:30 * eythian is waiting for the curry announcment