Time Nick Message
23:45 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7642 minor, P5 - low, ---, stacey, Pushed to Stable , The number that appears when hovering over a tag in the tag cloud isn't the number of items with that tag
23:45 jenkins_koha * Chris Cormack: Bug 7642: Fixing typo
23:45 jenkins_koha * Paul Poulain: Bug 7642 follow-up fix POD
23:45 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.8.x build #190: SUCCESS in 38 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.8.x/190/
23:44 wajasu ok. 25 non-enhancements
23:24 mtj thats the best place to start, i think
23:23 mtj bugs that are 'needs signoff', and are not 'enhancements'
23:22 mtj wajasu, http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/buglist.cgi?list_id=42882&bug_severity=blocker&bug_severity=critical&bug_severity=major&bug_severity=normal&bug_severity=minor&bug_severity=trivial&query_based_on=Needs%20Signoff&query_format=advanced&bug_status=Needs%20Signoff&known_name=Needs%20Signoff
23:20 wajasu ok. i'm availbe to test tonight. any suggested bugs?
23:07 jenkins_koha Starting build #190 for job Koha_3.8.x (previous build: SUCCESS)
23:06 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7642 minor, P5 - low, ---, stacey, Pushed to Stable , The number that appears when hovering over a tag in the tag cloud isn't the number of items with that tag
23:06 jenkins_koha robin: Bug 7642 - [3.8.x] fix the lost display of tag sizes
23:06 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.8.x build #189: SUCCESS in 38 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.8.x/189/
22:28 jenkins_koha Starting build #189 for job Koha_3.8.x (previous build: SUCCESS)
22:14 rangi back
21:59 eythian bye
21:59 cait good night all :)
21:45 mib_u2nixk Okay, thanks!
21:44 jcamins ^^ you might find a report that already does what you need there.
21:44 wahanui reports library is found at http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/SQL_Reports_Library
21:44 jcamins reports library?
21:44 mib_u2nixk In the reports section?
21:43 cait look for the tables deleted_items, deleted_biblios etc.
21:42 mib_u2nixk How do I generate a report of items that have been removed from our catalog including title, author, ISBN number?
21:38 rangi bbiab
21:37 rangi nope
21:36 jcamins rangi: do you have any screenshots of the work the students did?
21:36 jcamins :(
21:35 cait how totally unhelpful
21:35 cait it won't lad and it doesn't give any errors
21:32 cait looking for flash then , thx!
21:32 cait ok
21:32 jcamins cait: there's a Flash version.
21:31 cait If it shows what I think it shows...
21:31 cait jcamins: could you check which format your browsers says the video is? right click or something?
21:31 cait I use the bsz presentation thingy
21:31 jcamins SJeffery: sure thing.
21:31 * jcamins uses the javascript presentation thingy that rangi introduced him to.
21:30 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5706 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Search, create lists and Export authorities from staff interface
21:30 SJeffery jcamins: Bug 5706 - Can you update it given your authority work in 3.10? At a minimum I think #4 is covered by your work.
21:29 eythian actually, I think it's written by a german guy, so the german docs are probably quite good.
21:29 jcamins :P
21:29 eythian heh, beamer has a theme called "Berlin", I didn't know that.
21:29 jcamins As far as I know it's just HTML5 under real (and other fake-) OSes.
21:28 jcamins cait: probably it does on Windows.
21:28 cait I never use windows.... so I might be missing one
21:28 jcamins YoungPublicLibrarian: glad I could help.
21:28 cait you know if it requires some plugin?
21:28 cait jcamins: the video won't load :(
21:28 cait eythian: I am not going to learn that tonight :)
21:27 YoungPublicLibrarian looks like that solved it. Thanks so much Jcamins!!! I greatly appreciate it!
21:27 eythian http://nl.wikibooks.org/wiki/LaTeX/Presentaties <-- that's what I use (I'm sure this is close enough to your moon language to decipher)
21:26 cait thx again
21:26 jcamins cait: http://pastebin.com/tx5GzEmX
21:26 cait I know.
21:26 eythian oh. That's your first mistake :)
21:26 cait no, working with powerpoint
21:26 eythian cait: why are you running windows? Are you still at work?
21:26 jcamins cait: switch browsers?
21:25 cait grr
21:24 cait when i try to open that link, I see the list for a second and then it forwards me to a yahoo(???) search
21:24 jcamins YoungPublicLibrarian: you have an extra ", items i" in your report.
21:24 cait windows is so annyoing
21:24 cait wow
21:23 cait community++ jcamins++ :) thx all for helping me :)
21:23 pastebot "jcamins" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "cait: list of enhancements (warning: long)" (155 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/206
21:23 mtj many brave travellers have travelled to google-land before koyami, and failed...
21:22 YoungPublicLibrarian So...any other ideas to make that report ^^ work? Thanks!
21:22 mtj but hey… there are currently *many* Koha google-groups - all dead, and filled with spam
21:21 cait hm waiting for it to load :)
21:21 jcamins cait: unfortunately, it's a video not a screenshot.
21:21 cait jcamins: could you paste me the output of the feature list somewhere? :)
21:21 jcamins rambutan: nope.
21:21 jcamins cait: http://www.screencast.com/users/jcamins/folders/Jing/media/06f9c702-968d-49bd-ac53-60998e715f22
21:20 rambutan is there a script running on #koha to disconnect idle users?
21:20 jcamins Looking.
21:20 cait good queston - where is it? :)
21:20 jcamins Where's my super awesome screenshot of report JSON?
21:20 pastebot "YoungPublicLibrarian" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "Circ Charges" (7 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/205
21:20 jcamins cait: oh yeah?
21:19 cait hm the json thingy is really really cool but a bit hard to ban on a screenshot
21:19 eythian mtj: though, you end up splitting the people. I'd never follow a forum, I've tried and I always forget.
21:19 mtj … i just just hope he doesn't expect everyone to switch to it, after hes set it up
21:19 jcamins mtj: as long as it's interfaced to the mailing list, because the chance of me following something additional is... nil.
21:19 YoungPublicLibrarian I'll post what the report is now...
21:19 mtj slighty off-topic, but... i dont have a problem with koyauni's idea to set up a google-group for koha
21:18 jcamins :D
21:18 wahanui reports are done by each library, and you can configure it
21:18 jcamins Reports!
21:18 jcamins Yes!
21:18 rangi the reports json thingy?
21:18 wahanui reports are done by each library, and you can configure it
21:18 rangi reports?
21:18 jcamins Database export!
21:18 jcamins Ooh!
21:18 jcamins Quote-of-the-day?
21:17 jcamins It says "oh my, that's a lot of bugs."
21:17 YoungPublicLibrarian Whew...that was a bit of a rush. Jcamins: Your idea did not work...
21:16 cait jcamins: thx!!
21:16 jcamins cait: lemme see what the old release notes generator says.
21:15 SJeffery cait: Do the authorities a second time because it is so awesome:)
21:15 cait rangi++ for fixing jenkins and jcamins++ for the screenshot :)
21:14 jcamins SJeffery: that is a very good question.
21:14 cait I need a third big highlight of 3.10 for my sneak peak :)
21:14 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #863: FIXED in 1 hr 10 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/863/
21:14 jenkins_koha Yippie, build fixed!
21:14 cait and the authorities work
21:14 cait I got the mobile theme
21:14 cait ok
21:14 SJeffery When autobarcode is enabled and the staff member clicks add and duplicate it duplicates the old barcode along with the other fields. When autobarcode is NOT used it does NOT duplicate the barcode along with the other fields. Is this a bug or a feature (I have learned to ask this!)?
21:09 jcamins And it is beautiful, if I say so myself.
21:09 jcamins cait: it did.
21:09 jcamins cait: http://screencast.com/t/YLsLi1XU
21:08 cait the authorities work
21:08 cait I notice
21:08 cait I am featuring a lot of your developments in my presentaton as highlights for 3.10
21:07 cait did this make it in?
21:07 cait yes it is
21:07 cait yes
21:07 cait hehe
21:05 jcamins Drag-and-drop configuration reordering.
21:05 jcamins You know what's awesome?
21:04 jcamins I need to think of key words that will only pull up *two* authorities.
21:04 cait thx
21:03 jcamins (that will pull up suggestions from both on my data)
21:03 jcamins I will see if I can think of an example.
21:03 jcamins cait: no, you'd need a very particular set of data to get suggestions from both.
21:03 cait jcamins: do you happen to have a screenshot of both plugins working? :)
20:59 YoungPublicLibrarian brb...sorry got busy
20:58 cait thx :) rangi++
20:56 rangi http://opac.koha.workbuffer.org/
20:56 rangi 2 secs
20:56 rangi i can have
20:56 cait or does someone have a screenshot for me I could use?
20:56 cait rangi: do you still happen to have the mobile interface somewhere?
20:53 wahanui jcamins: i'm not following you...
20:53 jcamins Sorry, wahanui.
20:53 wahanui jcamins: that doesn't look right
20:53 jcamins Change the GROUP BY line to "GROUP BY authorised_values.lib, s.type"
20:53 jcamins The only two types of activities you're tracking are renewals and issues.
20:52 YoungPublicLibrarian I want the report to give me the collection code (such as 000-099, YA Fiction, etc...), the charge type (such as renewal or Charge), and the number of charges
20:49 jcamins Yes. Tell me in words what you want.
20:48 YoungPublicLibrarian I'm trying to mash features from two different reports together...and I think I did something wrong...
20:48 jcamins s.type is not part of the group clause.
20:48 jcamins Wait, no.
20:48 jcamins That looks -- from a quick glance -- like it should work.
20:47 pastebot "YoungPublicLibrarian" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "Circ Charges" (7 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/204
20:46 YoungPublicLibrarian different one. posting it now
20:46 jcamins YoungPublicLibrarian: if it's the same report, I don't have any new ideas, so can't help. If it's a different one, I'll try.
20:46 rangi cait: id rather the frustration, than pushing features after the freeze, and it's catalyst work so i feel that frustration
20:45 YoungPublicLibrarian Anyone have time to help me with a report? (Yet again...)
20:45 cait especially because it went through qa on time
20:44 cait but it's frustrating
20:44 cait I know
20:44 rangi cait: thats not a good reason
20:44 rangi a slight chill in the air
20:44 cait it already missed so mny releases
20:44 rangi we could just call it
20:44 cait :(
20:44 rangi well, my feeling is that its probably too late now, i mean 10 days past freeze .. theres not much point having one, if it isnt a freeze
20:42 cait *sigh*
20:42 cait it's currently blocked with a problem paul found that srdjan says does not exist
20:42 cait and I would still like to see allowonshelfholds on circulation matrix go in...
20:42 cait not my features
20:42 rangi there is no way that isnt a feature
20:42 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7913 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha, Pushed to Master , Automatically receive serial issues
20:42 rangi but bug 7913
20:42 rangi maybe you could get away with 3387 not being a feature
20:41 jcamins cait: very strict.
20:41 cait martinet?
20:41 cait or maybe because it was being debated for a while
20:41 jcamins cait: and I hear the RM presumptive for 3.12 is a martinet.
20:41 rangi both of them?
20:41 cait I think paul didn#t think of it as a new feature
20:41 cait rangi: thx (3.4)
20:40 rangi http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_activity.cgi?id=3387 <-- that passed 10 days after the freeze
20:40 rangi did i miss something? did we cancel the feature freeze?
20:39 cait we still have to reload
20:39 cait jcamins: all of our libraries still have a mix of old and new authorities
20:39 rangi 3.4
20:39 cait which was our first time based release?
20:39 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=3387 normal, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Pushed to Master , WITHDRAWN items shouldn't check in
20:39 rangi oh bug 3387 too
20:39 cait hm
20:38 rangi wtf
20:38 jcamins Yes.
20:38 rangi isnt that 9 days PAST the freeze?
20:38 rangi http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_activity.cgi?id=7913
20:38 jcamins Awww. All of cait's libraries have the crazy subfields removed from their authorities.
20:38 rangi hmm some more enhancements pushed to master ??!??
20:35 jcamins And the 5xx fields are rather wacky. They add a lot of interesting coding.
20:35 SJeffery I view this as a challenge...that I must find some way to once again make ours the worst there are
20:34 jcamins I'm having some trouble finding a single example.
20:34 cait SJeffery: using lots of 9 something fields
20:34 jcamins Hm.
20:33 * jcamins will find an example.
20:33 jcamins SJeffery: how are they not?
20:32 rangi thanks
20:32 jcamins I will rebase against 3.8.x.
20:31 SJeffery How are those insane?
20:31 cait only all germany
20:31 cait SJeffery: this time not :)
20:30 jcamins rangi: oh, yeah, good point.
20:29 SJeffery Someone mentioned insane authority records? You must be talking about us!
20:28 rangi or its sneaking in the see also stuffs too
20:28 rangi i think needs to be rebased for 3.8.x
20:27 pastebot "rangi" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "<<<<<<< HEAD [% CASE %]([% typ" (6 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/203
20:27 huginn jcamins: Quote #123: "rangi: #thingsihavelearnt if there is a mad scheme a library somewhere will be doing it ... except madder" (added by wizzyrea at 09:20 PM, March 30, 2011)
20:27 jcamins @quote get 123
20:27 cait :P
20:27 rangi hmm
20:27 jcamins And the rest of us will never notice, not having totally insane authority records.
20:26 rangi cool
20:26 jcamins It's nice and safe, and protects cait's displays against unseemly extra parentheses.
20:25 jcamins Yes please!
20:25 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8581 normal, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Pushed to Master , Authority display doesn't like GND records
20:25 rangi jcamins: bug 8581 is a candidate for 3.8.x eh?
20:13 jcamins rangi++
20:13 cait rangi++
20:12 rangi should be back to all tests passing now
20:12 rangi the db didnt have the sample holidays loaded
20:12 rangi fixed
20:10 rangi ill look into this now
20:10 rangi http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/860/
20:04 jenkins_koha Starting build #863 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #859 10 hr ago)
20:04 jenkins_koha rangi: job koha_master build scheduled now
20:04 rangi !jenkins build koha_master now
20:00 rangi ill fix the syspref one
20:00 rangi jcamins: yep you are right those holiday ones are legitimate
19:57 mtj but my data is now out of date too - i will refresh that, after go-live
19:57 cait aaah nice :)
19:56 mtj i started it many months ago… now planning to finish it, in 1-2 weeks :)
19:52 mtj cait, yes re: koha openmaps
19:52 SJeffery (since they in general do not have the technical resources that other libraries have)
19:52 SJeffery IMO, it is kindof impressive how many special libraries are using it now
19:52 mtj ie: that one -> http://web.archiveorange.com/archive/project/lists.koha-community.org/
19:51 mtj … looks like it just needs to be 'added' to the lists.kc.org homepage
19:51 jcamins mtj: yeah, but the link wasn't there.
19:51 mtj i didnt know the koha-general list was working on weborange
19:47 rangi cool mtj
19:47 cait I heard you did a nice map of koha libraries? :)
19:47 cait hi mtj :)
19:46 mtj i emailed jamie at weborange to correct that, just last week :)
19:45 cait morning kathryn :)
19:44 kathryn morning all :)
19:44 mtj heya
19:44 * cait tries the beetlejuice trick
19:44 cait mtj mtj mtj
19:44 jcamins cait: I do not. Ask mtj.
19:44 cait 1640 for today
19:43 rangi how many when you did an advanced search?
19:43 cait jcamins: do you have a link?
19:43 cait but I can't draw one myself :)
19:43 jcamins cait: mtj was doing a OpenStreetmaps-based map of Koha libraries.
19:43 cait yeah
19:43 rangi that map is only the ones with coordinates in it too
19:43 cait but still nice to see that number growing :)
19:43 rangi yep
19:42 cait just a fun fact - we know it's not all libaries
19:42 cait hm 700 more koha libraries listed in lib-web-cats now than 2.5 years ago
19:41 cait hmm now it came up... of course... thx for testing :)
19:41 rangi very very slowly
19:41 rangi cait: yes
19:40 rangi jcamins: done
19:40 libsysguy oh
19:40 libsysguy it does for me
19:40 cait [off] http://www.librarytechnology.org/map.pl?ILS=Koha
19:40 cait does that load for others?
19:39 cait hmm
19:39 * jcamins had never seen that interface before.
19:38 jcamins Thanks.
19:38 jcamins http://web.archiveorange.com/archive/project/lists.katipo.co.nz
19:38 rangi i can add it
19:38 rangi whats the link you want added?
19:37 jcamins The main list is on lists.katipo.co.nz.
19:37 jcamins It doesn't link to all the lists.
19:37 cait ?
19:36 jcamins Hm. Need to find someone with write access to that page to add an additional link to WebOrange.
19:35 jcamins rangi: I object! The data isn't owned by Google!
19:35 cait1 ok
19:35 rangi we have 6 .. we dont need 7
19:35 rangi just keep pasting that again and again and again
19:35 rangi for next time koyauni comes in
19:35 wahanui forums are http://koha-community.org/support/forums/
19:35 rangi forums?
19:35 rangi forums are http://koha-community.org/support/forums/
19:34 rangi http://koha-community.org/support/forums/
19:18 tweetbot` [off] twitter: @27point7: "@jsicot comprends pas pourquoi personne n'a fait un dev pour pouvoir personnaliser les facettes avec un fichier xml... #kohails"
19:04 gmcharlt jcamins: thanks
18:59 SJeffery (at least on the first one IIRC)
18:59 SJeffery the demo version info is also out of date
18:59 jcamins gmcharlt: MySQL is not running on ESI's Koha demo.
18:57 wahanui demo is at http://koha-community.org/demo/ or http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Koha_Demo_Databases
18:57 cait1 demo?
18:57 cait1 demos?
18:57 cait1 on the website
18:54 jcamins What demo links?
18:54 cait1 lots of the demo links are broken
18:54 cait1 hm
18:52 cait1 gr.
18:52 cait1 and windows doesn't like my sim card
18:52 cait1 it keeps kicking me out
18:50 jcamins rangi: from 3.8. These are the calendar tests that don't work.
18:50 cait1 wifi_in_this_household--
18:49 rangi I'll look when I'm at work
18:48 rangi Ahh regressions?
18:46 jcamins rangi: I think these are legitimate failures.
18:46 rangi Hmm unhappy Jenkins again
18:43 rangi Not nice weather today
18:43 huginn rangi: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 11.0°C (7:00 AM NZDT on October 02, 2012). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 76%. Dew Point: 7.0°C. Pressure: 29.68 in 1005 hPa (Rising).
18:43 rangi @wunder nzwn
18:41 trea kia ora
18:41 cait morning rangi
18:41 wahanui i heard Morning was a state of mind. or whenever the cat wants breakfast.
18:41 rangi Morning
18:36 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8818 blocker, P1 - high, ---, gmcharlt, Pushed to Master , Authority linker error on Z cataloging
18:35 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5335 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , More granular VAT
18:35 jenkins_koha * jcamins: Bug 8818: make sure we load modules before using them
18:35 jenkins_koha * Paul Poulain: Bug 5335 follow-up: fixing Perl error
18:35 jenkins_koha * preprod: Bug_7913-Follow-up, hide button for subs with items
18:35 jenkins_koha * koha: Receiving serials in a loop
18:35 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #862: STILL UNSTABLE in 1 hr 8 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/862/
18:13 tweetbot` [off] twitter: @jsicot: "Enfin ! facettes "Types de doc" gérer sur #kohails en mode Zebra et Unimarc. merci @27point7 pour la piste. http://t.co/bAc2vuAW"
17:33 tweetbot` [off] twitter: @kohails: "#kohails Creating Routing Lists in Koha 3.4 http://t.co/tAdMji5p"
17:28 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 8818: make sure we load modules before using them <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=813c74400803a5ec26497d9a809cf874d2c200fd> / Bug 5335 follow-up: fixing Perl error <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=882f4146441f8d0a447a63e4faecf755e33e6c90> / Bug_7913-Follow-up, hide button for subs with items <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=
17:27 jenkins_koha Starting build #862 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #859 8 hr 9 min ago)
17:19 cait1 t
17:15 jcamins khall++ # for tests that demonstrate a problem
17:14 cait1 lol
17:14 jcamins So I guess now we have to fix the functionality that's broken so that test starts passing.
17:14 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7642 minor, P5 - low, ---, stacey, Pushed to Master , The number that appears when hovering over a tag in the tag cloud isn't the number of items with that tag
17:14 jenkins_koha * Paul Poulain: Bug 7642 follow-up fix POD
17:14 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=3387 normal, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Pushed to Master , WITHDRAWN items shouldn't check in
17:14 jenkins_koha * robin: Bug 7642 - fix the lost display of tag sizes
17:14 jenkins_koha * Paul Poulain: Bug 3387 follow-up: fix perlcritic error
17:14 jenkins_koha * Paul Poulain: Bug 3387 follow-up DBRev number
17:14 jenkins_koha * kyle: Bug 3387 - WITHDRAWN items shouldn't check in
17:14 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #861: STILL UNSTABLE in 1 hr 7 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/861/
17:13 drojf ding ding ding ding ding! MULTICAIT! *makes pinball machine sounds*
17:11 cait only the typing is still bad :)
17:11 cait tons
17:11 cait tos
17:10 drojf hi cait :) feeling better?
17:10 cait wb drojf :)
16:58 cait hm now I scared drojf away
16:52 cait hello #koha
16:26 gaetan_B bye
16:24 reiveune bye
16:06 jenkins_koha Starting build #861 for job Koha_master (previous build: UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #859 6 hr 48 min ago)
16:06 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8110 normal, P1 - high, ---, kyle.m.hall, Pushed to Master , Add tests for Calendar modules
16:06 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8209 normal, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Pushed to Master , "Did you mean?" suggestions based on authorities
16:06 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8581 normal, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Pushed to Master , Authority display doesn't like GND records
16:06 jenkins_koha * kyle: Holidays Test Plan - DB Dependent
16:06 jenkins_koha * wizzyrea: bug 8110 - add branchcode MPL to sample holidays to facilitate automated testing.
16:06 jenkins_koha * jcamins: Bug 8209 follow-up: another correction for BuildSummary API
16:06 jenkins_koha * jcamins: Bug 8581: don't display parentheses when we don't have a type
16:06 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #860: UNSTABLE in 1 hr 8 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/860/
15:55 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 7642 follow-up fix POD <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=0fb3dda69fab38ebc7c7b6ac8f88300a4c4ccf00> / Bug 7642 - fix the lost display of tag sizes <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=79e0fb6fd600b6693c458d92cdb661e2b15d5ab0> / Bug 3387 follow-up: fix perlcritic error <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=f58a6f4e107900618fd313405bf0999
15:49 tweetbot` [off] twitter: @jsicot: "sru+ilsdi, je pense que ça va le faire ! #kohamobile #kohails http://t.co/116sGj5H"
15:34 mtompset Have a good day (24 hour period) everyone!
15:33 mtompset Well, going offline for a few hours. Sleep is vital.
15:11 nengard it won't be as clear as a screenshot though
15:11 nengard wizzyrea - if I have to I will
15:11 jcamins Declare it in one line then set it in another.
15:11 jcamins I think so, but don't use a construct like that.
15:11 mtompset Sorry, I was unclear.
15:10 jcamins Oh.
15:10 mtompset not defined.
15:10 mtompset I mean DECLARED.
15:10 jcamins No.
15:10 mtompset (if $_ is undef)
15:09 mtompset my (@blah) = m/magic/x if $_; -- @blah is still defined, right?
15:09 wizzyrea take a picture
15:09 tweetbot` [off] twitter: @nengard: "looking for a way to take a screenshot on my Droid Razr Maxx w/out rooting or paying (cause I only need one screenshot for #kohails manual)"
15:06 jcamins SJeffery: if the item with the abnormally high barcode has been deleted, your system administrator may be able to reset it in the database by running "ANALYZE TABLE items;"
15:00 mtompset Okay. our it is.
14:59 jcamins It's Plack-friendly.
14:59 jcamins mtompset: our
14:59 mtompset jcamins: My initial gut feeling of a missing 1; was wrong... it's a scoping issue. multiple packages all with a $DEBUG variables using 'my' in the same file are going to overlap, because perl scopes $DEBUG to the file level. I'm wondering if 'local' or 'our' is better.
14:58 jenkins_koha Starting build #860 for job Koha_master (previous build: FIXED)
14:57 mtompset I don't think anyone except a select few do, jcamins. It's not documented.
14:55 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Holidays Test Plan - DB Dependent <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=eba713b5839c4ee377923deecca97837edd7f404> / bug 8110 - add branchcode MPL to sample holidays to facilitate automated testing. <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=f7af37233a12df9f48bec9864fd3ababa00c8094> / Merge remote-tracking branch 'origin/new/bug_8209' <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=k
14:45 * jcamins did not know that.
14:45 mtompset At least in the marc tag structure code I was reading/fixing.
14:45 mtompset There seems to be a user 'demo' with password 'demo' coded into the system, and if you set a value demo=1 in the koha-conf.xml file, supposedly it does things like not write data.
14:44 tcohen mtompset, i was away, didn't get the joke
14:36 libsysguy foreign keys
14:36 jcamins Foreign keys.
14:36 mtompset fk's? What do you mean fk's, libsysguy?
14:36 mtompset Oops... that's why a test system is so important!
14:36 SJeffery grr, meeting. back in a bit
14:36 jcamins What do the barcodes look like?
14:36 SJeffery jcamins: We use a specific set of barcode ranges for different purposes. Someone must have entered one at some point (probably me as a test) that far exceeeds any of those ranges.
14:31 wahanui "What are you trying to do?" "What is the goal?" or "What problem are you experiencing?"
14:31 libsysguy first question?
14:30 jcamins SJeffery: what is your goal, exactly?
14:30 * mtompset jokes, "tcohen, check if demo is defined in the koha-conf.xml file."
14:28 SJeffery *facepalm* just does not seem sufficient when working with Koha.
14:26 libsysguy :)
14:26 libsysguy and would completely hose all the fk's
14:25 libsysguy but that'd delete all the data
14:25 libsysguy you'd have to truncate the table
14:24 jcamins SJeffery: there is not.
14:24 SJeffery I almost hate to ask, but is there a way to reset the auto-increment value for auto barcodes?
14:16 * nengard is reporting more bugs than she is writing manual updates ?
14:15 tcohen currently on 3.8.5
14:15 tcohen at least that's what my users told me
14:15 jcamins Hm. Never seen that.
14:15 tcohen but when editing again its all back to default
14:15 tcohen after changing the values and clicking accept, everything seems ok
14:14 jcamins tcohen: what kind of problem?
14:14 tcohen just asking prior to searching in bz
14:14 tcohen does anyone remember there was some problem with 008 in marc21?
14:14 koyauni thanks you guys, see u
14:09 koyauni so I should dare to do the ICU now, GOD help me! :)
14:08 jcamins You now have a backup in /var/spool/koha/library
14:08 jcamins Yes.
14:08 koyauni root@koyauniversity ~ # sudo koha-dump library Dumping Koha site library: * DB to /var/spool/koha/library/library-2012-10-01.sql.gz * configs, logs to /var/spool/koha/library/library-2012-10-01.tar.gz Done.
14:08 koyauni does this mean that it has dumped the configs as well
14:05 jcamins koyauni: `sudo koha-dump library` (or whatever you named your Koha instance)
14:04 koyauni sorry, sut off, well we use Debian 6+ on dedicated server using Plesk 11+, but Koha Db was created out side Plesk and I can not see it on my CP,
14:02 slef koyauni: back up the mysql database used by koha and the koha*conf* files for your system. How you do that depends on your system: backup policies are beyond the scope of Koha.
14:01 koyauni I think in next Koha this need to become default function of common package as in library of this world you will have non Latin records anyway.
13:59 koyauni this is the guide http://www.scribd.com/doc/45190333/ICU-Support-in-Zebra
13:58 koyauni We have many Arabic title and they are not indexed, someone told me that we need to enable ICU for Zebra for non Latin scripts, he said before I do that I need to backup my system, what does he mean by that? What to back up, and how?
13:56 koyauni now I get that!
13:55 * drojf walks off to the library
13:54 drojf (or, your own backups once you have saved some)
13:54 drojf koyauni: the MARC frameworks in koha represent what the LOC describes, so that you can use these specifics in your koha system and tweak them to your needs. but you have to tweak them in koha. you could only import a framework from another koha library
13:53 koyauni ok, thanks!
13:51 jcamins koyauni: no, MARC frameworks are specific to Koha.
13:51 koyauni and the same framwork
13:50 koyauni but they use MARC
13:48 jcamins So, no.
13:48 jcamins The Library of Congress doesn't use Koha.
13:48 jcamins Ah.
13:48 koyauni I mean import a framwork
13:47 koyauni in here on 4.1.5.2 http://manual.koha-community.org/3.8/en/catadmin.html#marcbibframeworks
13:47 jcamins If you don't want to edit records that you download via Z39.50, you don't have to.
13:46 jcamins koyauni: I don't understand your question.
13:46 koyauni can we just import BKS from LoC and use that
13:40 jcamins koyauni: you need to set "hidden" to 0 in the MARC bibliographic frameworks you use. I sent you a link to the manual page on that.
13:40 drojf hi wizzyrea
13:40 drojf koyauni: if it says "show all" then you are working on the wrong kind of framework
13:39 * wizzyrea waves
13:39 koyauni how to you make 880 to appear :(
13:32 koyauni ok
13:29 jcamins koyauni: you need to set "hidden" to 0.
13:28 koyauni my subfiled 6 say "Show all" bust still we can not see it
13:28 drojf ah well it's still auhorities. are there less options? but that would be fancy for biblios too
13:28 jcamins koyauni: http://manual.koha-community.org/3.8/en/catadmin.html#marcbibframeworks
13:27 drojf wow that has a fancy "show all" instead of those numbers i forget the meaning of every time
13:25 koyauni do you mean in here http://library.software.coop:8080/cgi-bin/koha/admin/auth_subfields_structure.pl?op=add_form&tagfield=880&authtypecode=GENRE%2FFORM
13:24 tweetbot` [off] twitter: @nengard: "Join the #kohails community on @gklst! https://t.co/LqyQ8Fq2"
13:24 koyauni Guys, this is a a min test, setup the group, if it does not work, delete the group, but is it serve everyone then we have doen something google, so simpele
13:23 jcamins koyauni: no, you just need to make the subfield 6 visible.
13:23 koyauni so I need to add new farmwork
13:23 mtompset Okay, that's dreaming too big, but still. :)
13:22 mtompset There's potentially 7 billion people to set up their own libraries. ;)
13:22 mtompset You aren't thinking about all the newbies that come on.
13:21 jcamins mtompset: *Once*.
13:21 mtompset Seeeeeeee! People use it. :P
13:21 jcamins That link is to the authority type configuration.
13:21 mtompset Seee... people use it, jcamins. :P
13:21 jcamins koyauni: you need to set that in the MARC frameworks.
13:20 koyauni http://library.software.coop:8080/cgi-bin/koha/admin/auth_subfields_structure.pl?op=add_form&tagfield=880&authtypecode=GENRE%2FFORM
13:20 koyauni is this something we do here
13:20 koyauni how do we get that?
13:20 koyauni one technical question, we want to follow LoC system for recording Arabic books, and they have field 880 with subfield 6, our Koha miss this sub 6,
13:11 koyauni you mean Koha google group,
13:10 drojf i'm not sure if importing all that to google does not imply some legal stuff. i have subscribed to a mailing list that had nothing to do with google, i may not want my mails to appear as a contribution to a google group
13:08 mtompset koyauni: I don't think you'll find an admin that will go for the idea, but I could be wrong.
13:07 koyauni this one has no pain but we need the admin to do it who has access to mailing list to allow the import then it will go smoothly, I can help run it after that
13:05 koyauni so I will delete that phpBB, as it will not serve us
13:05 koyauni I did a PHPBB forum but there we can not import the old data, in google forum we can
13:05 mtompset no, koyauni is thinking like phpbb.
13:04 jcamins koyauni: oh, you're thinking about setting it up to be just like nabble? I'm not entirely sure why we need that, but that's better than a separate forum.
13:04 mtompset koyauni: But the nabble interface is sufficient.
13:04 koyauni yes we can do that
13:04 mtompset koyauni: We already suffer from people setting up their own unofficial guides. Do we really need to extend it to websites and forums too?
13:04 koyauni and we can share, even your reply via mailing list will be added directly to the forum
13:03 koyauni this is easy https://groups.google.com/forum/#!overview
13:02 jcamins I have no objection to someone setting up a Google group, as long as it's made clear that the best way to get support is the mailing lists.
13:02 koyauni does it harm to import the 12 year mailing list to google forum
13:02 jcamins If you follow the link to the general mailing list, you'll see that it gives the administrators at the bottom: http://lists.katipo.co.nz/mailman/listinfo/koha
13:02 mtompset koyauni: Your enthusiam is great, but the idea has been hashed and rehashed before.
13:02 koyauni you still will be able to use the mailing list
13:01 wahanui mailing lists are at http://koha-community.org/support/koha-mailing-lists/
13:01 jcamins mailing lists?
13:01 koyauni many new comers can share their experience,
13:01 koyauni no, need, not all Forum has experts,
13:01 mtompset Nabble has search capability.
13:01 koyauni I do not know why should be so hard to get this done, so the list will remain for programmers and Forum will be better for normal users to share things they learn about Koha
13:01 jcamins If you use the nabble interface, it looks like a forum, and your question goes to everyone.
13:01 jcamins koyauni: my point was there wouldn't be anyone to answer questions.
13:01 koyauni so google serve Koha somehow, :)
13:00 koyauni this will bring Koha to be shard to average users as well
12:59 mtompset koyauni: Frankly, google indexes the current forums well enough... site:<which ever one you want>
12:59 koyauni not all the members of the list are programmer and developer
12:59 jcamins koyauni: http://koha.1045719.n5.nabble.com/Koha-general-f3047918.html
12:58 koyauni a forum can serve better and we sitll can us the list,
12:58 koyauni it is hard to find things,
12:58 jcamins I don't think any of the developers would use a Google group.
12:58 mtompset No, I'd say that too. :P
12:58 jcamins koyauni: why? You're much better off using the existing interfaces.
12:58 koyauni :(
12:57 drojf to misquote mtompset: "google is evil and invasive!"
12:57 koyauni with new forum interface
12:57 koyauni so we can set up a new google group service we can can have all 12 years mailing list imported to it,
12:57 jcamins nengard: you know you can resize the browser to very small and it will switch to the mobile view automatically?
12:56 jcamins koyauni: why do you need the administrator for that list?
12:56 nengard Now I need to get an app for my phone to take a screenshot :)
12:56 koyauni the admin for koha@lists.katipo.co.nz
12:56 koyauni sorry I was cut off,
12:55 jcamins nengard: very easy. By default, opaccolorsheet is already set to colors.css.
12:55 mtompset Google analytics is evil and invasive! :P
12:55 nengard jcamins sounds nice and easy!
12:55 jcamins No call numbers for you!
12:54 jcamins Hehe. That's what you get for disallowing google analytics!
12:54 drojf jcamins: ah yes, i suppose so. judging from the completely empty holdings information it may also be a that they use even more information from different servers and something is blocked in my browser… or their system is completely broken
12:53 jcamins nengard: you need to set opaccolorstylesheet to colors.css and switch the theme to ccsr.
12:53 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8597 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, fcapovilla, Pushed to Master , New theme for the OPAC with a mobile view
12:53 nengard Working on the manual some more today and have a question about Bug 8597 ? is it as simple as setting the preferences? or do you have to make any other changes on the server that I need to document?
12:52 nengard hello all
12:51 jcamins drojf: right, but the machine presumably checks in books, then routes them for shelving, right?
12:50 drojf no the machine only does returns AFAIK. but you could drop off the books at a human being at the counter too up until a while ago. sorry if i worded that badly
12:49 jcamins I've used Aleph, and when you check in a book that isn't checked out, it just gets routed to shelving.
12:49 jcamins drojf: there's a machine that does something different than checking in books?
12:48 drojf jcamins: i'm trying to find out at the moment it they are listed as checked out. and i am not sure what the returns machine will do. it would work at the counter of course, but they do not allow that anymore
12:48 wahanui mailing lists are at http://koha-community.org/support/koha-mailing-lists/
12:48 mtompset mailing lists?
12:48 mtompset for who?
12:48 jcamins drojf: you can always return books. They'll just not have been checked out.
12:48 mtompset Why are you looking for you?
12:47 tcohen what do u need koyauni?
12:47 koyauni koha mailing list where we share stuff and get replies
12:47 drojf mtompset: i would go so far as to say i cannot, atm :D
12:46 drojf the mailing of what? do you mean mailing lists?
12:46 mtompset drojf: So you don't have to return them? ;)
12:46 koyauni who is responsible for the mailing please?
12:45 drojf is there a 10/2012 bug in ex libris aleph? my university account lost all information about the books i have borrowed
12:44 tweetbot` [off] twitter: @kohails: "#kohails Coming to Koha 3.10: Catalog by Color http://t.co/futTvjTD"
12:40 tcohen yeah, it needs sign-off ;)
12:37 tcohen i think is ready right now
12:37 tcohen yes, found a bug I fixed too
12:37 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8840 normal, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Needs Signoff , ubuntu-pkg-check.sh fix and extend functionality
12:37 mtompset I see you got the patch up and ready for signoff on bug 8840. :)
12:36 mtompset greetings, tcohen.
12:36 tcohen morning #koha
12:36 tcohen hi mtompset
12:34 mtompset I will... I'm slowly going through the make test warnings.
12:34 jcamins You should patch it, then.
12:34 jcamins Okay.
12:34 mtompset Yes.
12:33 jcamins So the impact of that mistake is that there is a warning during make test?
12:33 mtompset I'm not sure... I'm guessing wildly.
12:33 mtompset It may try to defined the 3rd package as a sub-package?
12:33 mtompset Other than generating an error in the tests?
12:32 mtompset Well, I don't usually put 3 packages into a file, so I am not sure.
12:32 jcamins Does that have any practical ramifications?
12:31 mtompset The second one is missing 1;
12:31 mtompset ValueBuilder.pm has 3 packages in it.
12:31 jcamins Oh?
12:30 mtompset Oooo... as a result of jcamins' prodding... I found a bug in a package.
12:28 tweetbot` [off] twitter: @ByWaterSolution: "Coming to Koha 3.10: Catalog by Color http://t.co/SdhPoCF5 #kohails"
11:37 magnuse no more excuses - off to write contracts!
11:28 magnuse i think the geographical centre of oslo is somewhere in the woods, actually
11:28 magnuse yeah, guess it is
11:27 jcamins Even Oslo is deep in the woods now.
11:27 magnuse hehe, i wish
11:27 jcamins magnuse: apparently Norway is suffering from the opposite problem from much of Europe. Instead of urbanizing, it is ruralizing. :)
11:26 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Oslo Airport, Norway is 13.0°C (12:47 PM CEST on October 01, 2012). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 72%. Dew Point: 8.0°C. Pressure: 29.65 in 1004 hPa (Steady).
11:26 magnuse @wunder osl
11:26 magnuse harestua? that's far into the woods. weird!
11:20 huginn cait1: The current temperature in Harestua, Harestua, Norway is 12.7°C (1:16 PM CEST on October 01, 2012). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 79%. Dew Point: 9.0°C. Pressure: 29.65 in 1004 hPa (Steady).
11:20 cait1 @wunder oslo, norway
11:20 huginn cait1: Error: No such location could be found.
11:20 cait1 @wunder oslo
11:18 drojf fixed git in so far that i have a virtual machine that i can use to work with it. not fixed the old git, but i think it's not worth the trouble
11:17 cait1 yeah agreed
11:17 drojf it was kind of below our standards to be fair
11:10 mtompset I guess someone cleaned up wahanui's vocabulary. ;)
11:10 mtompset -- Strange... it was a vulgarity before.
11:09 mtompset ptfs?
11:09 mtompset Did you fix your git woes, drojf?
11:08 wahanui drojf is from Germany and developing Koha on a raspberry pi!
11:08 mtompset drojf?
10:58 jcamins drojf: hehe.
10:58 magnuse i'll miss hdl, though...
10:57 magnuse lol
10:56 drojf ah, not bought by ptfs *relieved*
10:46 * cait1 reads
10:46 magnuse wow, big news from biblibre: http://drupal.biblibre.com/en/blog/entry/biblibre-takes-another-next-step
10:44 tweetbot` [off] twitter: @kohails: "#kohails BibLibre passe -encore- à une autre étape http://t.co/4YddrO2I"
10:33 magnuse w00t!
10:28 drojf master++
10:26 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #859: FIXED in 1 hr 7 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/859/
10:26 jenkins_koha Yippie, build fixed!
10:19 mtompset I have a backlog of fixes that need to get back into Koha.
10:16 mtompset That's why I fixed it. :P
10:16 mtompset It's being used now by my librarian colleagues.
10:00 jcamins In that case, it would probably be more productive to focus on those warnings than warnings in a page that is rarely used (the framework editor).
09:58 mtompset It was hard to notice the legit error in the midst of the noise.
09:56 jcamins Yes. In those cases where they are not just warnings, they should be dealt with.
09:56 mtompset sometimes they are valid though (missing Test::MockModule and DBD::Mock)
09:54 jcamins mtompset: I've noticed.
09:54 mtompset All those warnings freak me out a little.
09:54 mtompset fewer warnings on the 'make test'?
09:48 cait1 good night rangi
09:47 * rangi goes to bed
09:41 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8777 normal, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Quiet errors in circulation.pl
09:41 mtompset Finally, get back to bug 8777 today.
09:34 rangi sweet thanks
09:30 jcamins Okay, new patch, now with updated commit message and fewer warnings.
09:27 jcamins We get a bunch of warnings without mocking config, though...
09:25 jcamins There was so much database access going on that I gave up and mocked the entire routine. Apparently that was a good idea. ;)
09:25 jcamins Fixing the test is just a side-effect.
09:24 rangi gonna have to fix that commit message then :)
09:24 jcamins (etc.)
09:24 jcamins +$tmplModule->mock('_get_template_file', sub {
09:24 jcamins Hm, no, I guess config gets called, but the results are summarily disregarded.
09:23 jcamins rangi: config doesn't get called.
09:23 rangi or both
09:23 rangi not preference
09:23 rangi jcamins: i think the patch for 8846 isn't quite enough, need to mock config
09:18 jenkins_koha Starting build #859 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #856 2 days 23 hr ago)
09:18 jenkins_koha rangi: job Koha_master build scheduled with a quiet period of 5 seconds
09:18 rangi !jenkins build Koha_master
09:17 jcamins drojf: if you used irssi you could write a script to do that.
09:17 drojf we could do that on first of april ;)
09:17 WaqarAzeem and virtualshelves hide the List option
09:17 mtompset That idea is mean and crazy.
09:16 drojf mtompset: i think its more fun to only have the user's time. and then sort the logs by timestamp to drive people readings them nuts
09:15 mtompset That wouldn't be too confusing then.
09:15 mtompset You could put the local time on the left and the users time on the right (or vice versa using a configuration option)
09:14 WaqarAzeem Cart is disable by 'opacbookbag'
09:14 wahanui mtompset: I forgot actually
09:14 mtompset wahanui: forget actually
09:14 wahanui actually are you going to be the system administrator for this system?
09:14 mtompset Actually...
09:14 jcamins drojf: hehe. Yes, very confusing.
09:14 drojf i would like an irc client that shows the timestamps according to local time of each person. that would look amazing(ly confusing)
09:14 mtompset Not much of a vacation phoning dentists.
09:13 cait1 and needs distraction
09:13 jcamins Lucky cait!
09:13 cait1 cait is on vacation today
09:12 magnuse not yet
09:12 jcamins So, yes. Unusually late for cait. Norway trip? :)
09:11 mtompset You both owe me a coke. :P
09:11 jcamins Elevenish?
09:11 drojf it's 11am
09:11 mtompset It's only 5PM in the Philippines... So it is earlier in Germany, right?
09:09 jcamins Isn't it a bit late for cait?
09:09 drojf heh
09:09 magnuse lol
09:08 mtompset To taunt you mercilessly. ;)
09:08 mtompset To let you know that you can't do something that the program can do. ;)
09:05 drojf and good morning
09:05 jcamins Shari had a 6am call.
09:05 drojf jcamins: bad coding ;)
09:05 wahanui morning is, like, a state of mind. or whenever the cat wants breakfast
09:05 jcamins Morning.
09:05 cait1 awake early again?
09:05 jcamins What would be the point of displaying disabled functionality?
09:05 cait1 hi jcamins
09:05 drojf mtompset: i'm pretty sure they are not
09:05 cait1 no they are hidden
09:04 mtompset Are they still visible when you disable them, drojf? do you know?
09:04 WaqarAzeem good idea.
09:04 drojf in the staff client, use search system preferences and search for "cart" and "list", the options should pop up there
09:04 mtompset I didn't know about the syspref. :)
09:03 drojf you can disable the features too
09:03 drojf WaqarAzeem: yes
09:03 mtompset You can use javascript to hide them, so effectively yes.
09:01 WaqarAzeem hi! can i disable the 'Cart' and 'Lists' from the header of opac.
08:52 cait1 yes?
08:40 drojf ping cait
08:32 drojf "looking at" even
08:31 drojf mtompset: looking a the company she is using that is quite possible ;)
08:26 mtompset drojf: maybe she has one of those dsl lines that cuts out when a phone call is received or made? :)
08:20 mtompset Bonjour, paul_p. :)
08:17 drojf cait: 56k modem connection? go offline to call the dentist? :P
08:12 magnuse kia ora paul_p!
08:11 drojf bonjour paul_p
08:08 paul_p good morning #koha
07:55 drojf it seems like the new one is scary, made her run away
07:52 mtompset old as in age, or old as in previous? And if the latter, why not the new one?
07:48 cait *growl*
07:48 cait but rigt now she is trying to get an appointment at her old dentist
07:48 cait it certainly feels like it
07:44 * mtompset grumbles about having to choose a component on the bug report.
07:40 drojf she should be writing norwegian slides ;)
07:39 drojf lol. kf is writing slides for the rest of her life
07:39 wahanui kf should be writing slides
07:39 magnuse slides?
07:38 drojf meh
07:38 huginn drojf: The current temperature in Prenzlauer Berg, Berlin, Germany is 10.1°C (9:13 AM CEST on October 01, 2012). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 69%. Dew Point: 5.0°C. Pressure: 30.06 in 1018 hPa (Steady).
07:38 drojf @wunder berlin, germany
07:34 * druthb giggles
07:33 wahanui francharb falls asleep easily at sea. Don't believe me? Just ask Brooke.
07:33 drojf hey francharb
07:33 wahanui niihau, francharb
07:33 francharb hello
07:32 drojf good morning #koha
07:26 huginn druthb: The current temperature in Lawrence Live-Courtesy of the Khoury's, Lawrence, Kansas is 14.1°C (2:23 AM CDT on October 01, 2012). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 83%. Dew Point: 11.0°C. Pressure: 29.86 in 1011 hPa (Falling).
07:26 druthb @wunder 66046
07:26 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 8.0°C (8:50 AM CEST on October 01, 2012). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 66%. Dew Point: 2.0°C. Windchill: 4.0°C. Pressure: 29.53 in 1000 hPa (Steady).
07:26 magnuse @wunder boo
07:22 druthb Hi.
07:22 magnuse dr druthb :-)
07:22 magnuse hiya druthb
07:22 cait :)
07:22 cait hi druthb
07:22 cait hi dr
07:21 magnuse ...not that that should discourage anyone else from trying to figure it out, of course :-)
07:15 magnuse i think i tried figuring out how to change the name a long time ago, but i gave up
07:14 magnuse have fun eythian
07:09 mtompset good night, eythian.
07:08 cait good night
07:08 eythian I'm just about to leave, so good night :)
07:08 cait what magnuse said, perhaps somewhere in the config files, but changing them I would not recommend I think
07:08 eythian cait: hiya
07:08 eythian (disclaimer: I've not tried, and don't know that area very well)
07:08 cait mtompset: nope
07:08 eythian mtompset: I suspect it would be difficult, as I think it maps to the directory that zebra puts its stuff into
07:08 cait evening eythian
07:07 mtompset Well, I don't expect you to know everything. Perhaps you know how to change the DB you tell people to access for your own z39.50 server?
07:07 eythian magnuse: firewalling would be an issue there
07:07 matts hi !
07:06 cait no she certainly doesn't
07:06 magnuse it would be cool if, on a multi koha install, you could just have different names for the z39.50 endpoints, instead of different ports
07:06 cait uhoh
07:06 mtompset Maybe cait would know. She knows everything. ;)
07:05 magnuse mtompset: i'm not sure you can change it, but if you can it would have to happen in koha-con.xml, i guess
07:03 mtompset Greetings, gaetan_B
07:03 mtompset That is, various z39.50 clients give a different DB name. How do I change that?
07:03 mtompset Question: if I don't want my zebra information to have a database of biblios, how do I change it?
07:02 gaetan_B hello
06:59 * mtompset smiles, "Greetings to everyone!"
06:58 alex_a salut mtompset :)
06:52 reiveune salut mtompset :)
06:52 mtompset Bonjour, alex_a
06:51 mtompset salut, reiveune. :)
06:44 reiveune hello
06:40 julian_m hello Amit_Gupta
06:40 wahanui Good luck getting ten words out of this one...
06:40 Amit_Gupta heya julian_m
06:25 mtompset This mentioned the "demo" mode.
06:25 mtompset http://lists.koha-community.org/pipermail/koha-cvs/2003-August/018267.html
06:21 mtompset BAH! This is why jcamins said that anything older than 2 years is likely not findable.
06:08 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8777 normal, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Quiet errors in circulation.pl
06:08 mtompset Okay... now to finally get around to patching something up for bug 8777
06:04 mtompset But I understand your valid point.
06:03 mtompset # now check for this case so we can blah.
06:02 mtompset It isn't a problem if someone comments the code better. ;)
06:02 magnuse yup
06:02 eythian a stray ! is harder to spot than 'unless'
06:01 magnuse unless is probably meant to give code that reads more like natural language? but i'm not a fan either
06:01 mtompset avoid short-circuiting logic. it's easier to read.
06:01 mtompset actually ... why not "if (!condition) { ... }"
06:00 * magnuse too
06:00 eythian s/ase/ase dump/
06:00 eythian as for demo value, we don't. Our demo just reloads from a database early each morning
05:59 eythian agreed, it should be (condition) || { ... }
05:59 mtompset oh well... someone else's coding style. :(
05:59 mtompset I really don't like "unless (condition) { ... }"
05:58 mtompset Basically... a demo value == 1 seems to prevent the updating or insertion of a record.
05:58 mtompset I can't even find documentation related to this.
05:57 mtompset line 152 of marctagstructure.pl in 3.8.5
05:56 mtompset Yes, a demo value.
05:54 magnuse a demo value?
05:51 mtompset Do people actually define a "demo" value in the koha-conf.xml file?!
05:51 magnuse ...and Amit_Gupta
05:50 magnuse hiya mtompset
05:50 Amit_Gupta heya matompset
05:47 mtompset Greetings, Amit_Gupta magnuse
05:41 magnuse kia ora #koha!
05:35 Amit_Gupta hi koha
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01:44 eythian He clearly disagrees.
01:41 eythian mtompset: unmashed unicorn is not so good.
01:40 huginn eythian: The operation succeeded.
01:40 eythian @later tell druthb belay that, google had cached a copy of the paste that I was able to get out of it :)
01:39 mtompset unicorn masher?!
01:35 huginn eythian: The operation succeeded.
01:35 eythian @later tell druthb can you please resend that unicorn masher command you sent me a while ago? the paste has expired, and my IRC logs have a shortened version :(
01:16 * mtompset smirks, "Just read that Cataloging authorities thread."
00:47 mtj yeah, amen to that
00:46 rangi working code wins
00:46 mtj yeah, thats pretty much how i feel too :)
00:43 jcamins_1way mtj: I don't know that DBIx is a better ORM than Rose::DB. But I don't really care about which is objectively superior. I have heard good things about DBIx. I have heard good things about Rose::DB. Of the two, I know more about DBIx, and that seems to be true of a lot of people. That's good enough for me. Any time we talk about a major decision, we never make it.
00:01 eythian "well I'm not doing anything more interesting in 2013" :)