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23:48 mtompset poodle?
23:14 rangi i like poodle better :)
23:14 rangi hehe
22:58 rangi hehe poodle
22:58 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5786 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, srdjan, Signed Off , Move AllowOnShelfHolds system preference to the Circulation Matrix
22:58 bag bug 5786
22:52 mtompset Thank you, jcamins.
22:52 huginn jcamins: Quote #123: "rangi: #thingsihavelearnt if there is a mad scheme a library somewhere will be doing it ... except madder" (added by wizzyrea at 09:20 PM, March 30, 2011)
22:52 jcamins @quote get 123
22:51 mtompset Is that really quote 123?
22:51 huginn mtompset: I'll give you the answer as soon as RDA is ready
22:51 mtompset @quote 123
22:47 rangi glad got that one in
22:47 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8251 critical, P1 - high, ---, colin.campbell, Pushed to Stable , Patrons are systematically debarred at checkin
22:47 jenkins_koha colin.campbell: Bug 8251 Do not try to debar patrons if returns are not overdue
22:47 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.8.x build #167: SUCCESS in 1 hr 2 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.8.x/167/
22:12 mtj yoar welcome :)
22:11 mtj L2-cache pipeline saturation, causes zebra-indexing fault
22:09 rangi (i needed one for a tweet)
22:07 wahanui rangi: Our ISP is having {switching,routing,SMDS,frame relay} problems
22:07 rangi excuse
22:07 wahanui rangi: the xy axis in the trackball is coordinated with the summer solstice
22:07 rangi excuse
22:07 wahanui rangi: It must have been the lightning storm we had (yesterday) (last week) (last month)
22:07 rangi excuse
21:44 jenkins_koha Starting build #167 for job Koha_3.8.x (previous build: SUCCESS)
21:44 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8708 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Stable , RSS feed for new comments is broken
21:44 jenkins_koha oleonard: Bug 8708 [Revised] RSS feed for new comments is broken
21:44 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.8.x build #166: SUCCESS in 1 hr 2 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.8.x/166/
21:40 mtj morning #koha
21:39 jcamins mtj: that's pretty great.
21:38 cait I am relaly leaving :)
21:38 cait oh.
21:38 mtj 'shell variables become destabilized, with 64-bit endiness'
21:38 cait and you came back :)
21:38 jcamins I'm at home now, so I can do other work.
21:38 jcamins cait: I did leave.
21:38 cait jcamins: you wanted to stop working earlier
21:38 jcamins Night.
21:38 cait night all :)
21:37 bag oh hey mtj
21:37 wahanui cait: The CPU has shifted, and become decentralized.
21:37 cait excuse?
21:37 jcamins I wondered where that came from.
21:37 jcamins lol
21:37 rangi heh
21:37 wahanui rangi: ether leak
21:37 rangi excuse me for my shoes
21:36 rangi 04:59 < wahanui> Oliver_Spain: Sales staff sold a product we don't offer.
21:36 rangi 04:59 < Oliver_Spain> excuse me for my english xDD
21:36 rangi i really enjoyed wahanui chipping in earlier
21:36 rangi its such a good one
21:36 rangi hehe
21:35 mtj haay, thats my punchline!
21:34 rangi could be his level2 cache is full
21:33 rangi heh
21:33 bag dont' you mean cromwell cromwell
21:30 jcamins Yeah, does sound more appropriate for his needs.
21:30 rangi i think oliver martin should go with evergreen
21:24 bag last night Aloo thought throwing up on the rug deserved at least two sign-offs
21:23 jcamins Myshkin says chin scratching is a superior contribution, though.
21:22 bag agreed :)
21:21 jcamins dcook: definitely. :)
21:17 dcook I suppose contributing bugs/patches is better than nothing.
21:15 dcook It's just that I don't have a lot of time at the moment, as I'm only doing 1.5 days a week.
21:15 dcook Hehe. I certainly learned quite a bit by failing too
21:10 bag actually I think I learned everything by failing
21:09 bag dcook: it's also a good chance to learn about a new module.. that's how I first learned acq and serials - by trying test patches (and failing)
20:57 * dcook wishes that there were some simple bugs to sign off, so that he wasn't making the bug sign off list ever larger
20:45 bag I may have an older VM kicking around
20:44 bag agreed - I'm just trying to think of ways that I can repeat it
20:43 rangi havent tracked it down, but if it can fail for that, then it may well fail on others
20:41 bag for the transport_cost table
20:41 jenkins_koha Starting build #166 for job Koha_3.8.x (previous build: FIXED)
20:41 bag hey rangi - I may have missed it - but was the jenkins error based on having an older mysql? or do you still think this is a problem
20:33 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5786 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, srdjan, Signed Off , Move AllowOnShelfHolds system preference to the Circulation Matrix
20:33 bag bug 5786
20:26 * jcamins closes up shop for the day.
20:25 gib56 uummmm...eh?
20:25 rangi yep
20:25 jcamins Well, that on its own is a problem.
20:25 rangi yep
20:24 jcamins rangi: oh, because it's in ~. Of course.
20:24 rangi jcamins: most likely is not logrotated
20:23 jcamins It indicates there's something wrong.
20:23 jcamins Also, that's a problem.
20:23 jcamins You can just use tail.
20:23 gib56 it will take a while to open
20:22 gib56 it's very big
20:22 jcamins Look in koha-error_log
20:21 gib56 and koha-opac-error_log
20:21 gib56 i did see koha-error_log
20:21 gib56 under var > log
20:20 huginn cait: The current temperature in Konstanz, Germany is 10.0Â°C (10:00 PM CEST on September 12, 2012). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 81%. Dew Point: 8.0Â°C. Pressure: 30.04 in 1017 hPa (Rising).
20:20 cait @wunder Konstanz
20:19 dcook It's good logic. That's what I figured when I first saw that it was moved :p
20:19 gib56 q
20:19 dcook For some reason when I look at the git website now, it agrees with you guys. I'm starting to doubt my brainmeats
20:18 rangi or even theme dependent
20:18 rangi cos its not language dependent
20:18 dcook I believe you :)
20:18 rangi not in en
20:18 rangi dcook its supposed to be there
20:18 cait dcook: it's a very recent change
20:18 dcook Or..
20:17 dcook Actually...no I'm not..
20:17 dcook Thanks, jcamins and cait. I just realized that I was checking against the koha38 branch on the community website *facepalm*
20:17 gib56 yep, am in koha-dev right now
20:16 rangi or /var/log/apache2/
20:16 cait dcook: it's all ok - it's a feature not a bug :)
20:16 jcamins You could also check in ~/koha-dev/var/log
20:16 jcamins gib56: that's not your Koha log.
20:16 gib56 but that was from sept 2
20:16 jcamins dcook: yui has been moved.
20:16 gib56 i see a fail2ban.log.2.gz
20:16 dcook Can someone checkout the current master branch in their git? When I take a look at my opac-tmpl folder, I see "lib" next to "prog", when I look in this "lib" directory...it's the yui lib which should be in the "en" directory
20:15 jcamins You'll recognize one if you see it.
20:15 jcamins Errors.
20:14 gib56 and to be honest, I have no idea what to look for
20:14 gib56 i did go to logs
20:14 jcamins Also, you know that label batches are handled by a separate label tool, right?
20:14 jcamins gib56: did you find out what the logs said?
20:13 gib56 that's under Tools > Manage staged MARC records
20:13 dcook Allo #koha
20:12 gib56 is anybody having issues with creating label batches?
20:11 wahanui hi, gib56
20:11 gib56 hello
20:03 gib56 thank you
20:01 jcamins Probably /var/log/koha, but it depends how Koha was installed.
20:00 gib56 so, I am assuming I am going to Var > Log
20:00 gib56 I am very new to Koha
19:59 jcamins That might give us something to go on.
19:58 jcamins gib56: I don't use labels, but it sounds like you should check your log.
19:57 gib56 Error attempting to create label batch. Please ask your system administrator to check the log for more details.
19:57 gib56 and it gives this error
19:56 gib56 in Manage Staged MARC records
19:56 gib56 a librarian is trying to create a label batch
19:56 jcamins (i.e. not directed to a specific person)
19:55 gib56 well, actually i just need some help
19:55 jcamins gib56: if you have a question about Koha, you should probably ask generally.
19:55 jcamins libsysguy_calendar: I think you are being summoned.
19:55 gib56 elliott?
19:54 gib56 hello
19:53 rangi back
19:47 bag no no I totally agree - I'm a wuss now
19:46 wizzyrea :)
19:46 cait pff
19:46 wizzyrea I guess kansans are made of tougher stuff. :P
19:46 cait me too
19:46 bag I'd melt
19:46 wizzyrea ok fine.
19:46 bag HOT
19:45 wizzyrea warmish
19:45 huginn wizzyrea: The current temperature in Jeff's Weather Lab, Lawrence, Kansas is 34.0Â°C (2:43 PM CDT on September 12, 2012). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 39%. Dew Point: 18.0Â°C. Pressure: 29.98 in 1015 hPa (Falling).
19:45 wizzyrea @wunder 66049
19:45 jcamins Not quite as nice as yesterday, but still not bad.
19:45 jcamins Yup.
19:45 bag oh nice day in queens
19:45 jcamins It seemed so much nicer out.
19:45 jcamins Huh.
19:45 huginn jcamins: The current temperature in Middle Village, Queens, New York is 25.4Â°C (3:40 PM EDT on September 12, 2012). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 42%. Dew Point: 12.0Â°C. Pressure: 30.32 in 1026 hPa (Steady).
19:45 jcamins @wunder 11375
19:44 bag heh sorry cait
19:44 melia yup. cloudy here, too.
19:44 cait :)
19:44 cait it's a lot warmer than here - don't complain!
19:44 bag I think melia sent her weather down here - cloudy :(
19:44 huginn bag: The current temperature in Near Mission - TC, Santa Barbara, California is 24.0Â°C (12:41 PM PDT on September 12, 2012). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 54%. Dew Point: 14.0Â°C. Pressure: 30.01 in 1016 hPa (Falling).
19:44 bag @wunder Santa Barbara, CA
19:41 rangi My stop bbiab
19:28 huginn drojf: The current temperature in Prenzlauer Berg, Berlin, Germany is 15.2Â°C (9:12 PM CEST on September 12, 2012). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 51%. Dew Point: 5.0Â°C. Pressure: 29.86 in 1011 hPa (Steady).
19:28 drojf @wunder berlin, germany
19:28 huginn cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 9.4Â°C (9:25 PM CEST on September 12, 2012). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 90%. Dew Point: 8.0Â°C. Windchill: 9.0Â°C. Pressure: 30.01 in 1016 hPa (Steady).
19:28 cait @wunder Konstanz
19:28 cait good morning rangi
19:18 huginn rangi: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 4.0Â°C (7:00 AM NZST on September 13, 2012). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 81%. Dew Point: 1.0Â°C. Windchill: 1.0Â°C. Pressure: 30.21 in 1023 hPa (Steady).
19:18 rangi @wunder nzwn
19:01 oleonard Bye #koha
18:51 cait or you will end up like me and have to drive home on the dark
18:50 cait hm yeah, sounds not reasonable :)
18:50 oleonard Anyway, I guess I shouldn't start testing it again when I have to leave in 15 min.
18:50 oleonard :)
18:50 cait that's also an option :)
18:50 cait maybe you wanted to introduce accordeon there too? :)
18:50 oleonard I don't think we discussed it. I probably worked on it until my brain hurt and then quit.
18:50 cait hm although... it doesn't look so bad
18:49 cait probably we couldn't agree on it
18:49 cait hm
18:49 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8535 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED , Granular permission for viewing patron information
18:49 oleonard Bug 8535
18:48 cait which branch is it? :)
18:47 oleonard I really need to leave myself better notes. Why did I stop working on this branch? Ran out of time? Got bored? Insurmountable problem I can't recall?
18:12 rangi bbiab
18:11 rangi i wonder if thats the difference
18:11 rangi jenkins is running 5.1
18:11 oleonard I've got 5.5.24-0ubuntu0.12.04.1
18:08 rangi what mysql version are you running?
18:08 jcamins rangi: oh, I thought the problem was a missing syspref.
18:05 rangi if i take them out, it can create the table
18:05 oleonard What does that mean?
18:05 rangi its the foreign key constraints
18:05 rangi its not that
18:05 * oleonard wonders about this line added in updatedatabase.pl: "CHECK ( `frombranch` <> `tobranch` ), -- a dud check, mysql does not support that"
18:03 bag heh
18:03 bag :) at least you didn't NO me
18:02 rangi if it can happen once, it can happen again
18:02 rangi no
17:58 bag I think that was a jenkins error?
17:58 bag mine too
17:55 oleonard Hm, the transport_cost table was created fine on my test machine
17:32 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8028 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle.m.hall, Pushed to Master , Make table collapsing on parcel.pl sticky
17:32 jenkins_koha * kyle: Bug 8028 - Followup
17:32 jenkins_koha * kyle: Bug 8028 - Make table collapsing on parcel.pl sticky - Hide link for 5 or fewer items.
17:32 jenkins_koha * kyle: Bug 8028 - Make table collapsing on parcel.pl sticky
17:32 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #823: STILL UNSTABLE in 1 hr 6 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/823/
17:23 Oak kia ora #koha
17:23 * Oak waves to the crickets
17:21 Oliver_Spain ok thanks a lot of jcamins ;)
17:20 jcamins Oliver_Spain: no. There's no separate permission for adding (as opposed to editing) bib records.
17:18 Oliver_Spain another question it's posible give permission to capturate from z39.50 but not edit bibliographic records?
17:16 Oliver_Spain thanks
17:16 jcamins (wizzyrea works for a consortium too)
17:16 Oliver_Spain i need independent branchs
17:16 jcamins wizzyrea: do you use IndependentBranches?
17:16 Oliver_Spain i can't let it edit (or add) items from other libraries
17:15 Oliver_Spain i have a lot of libraries
17:15 Oliver_Spain yes
17:15 jcamins That's if they insist on using IndependentBranches.
17:14 Oliver_Spain i don't like xD
17:14 Oliver_Spain humm
17:14 jcamins I think usually what people do is give one librarian multiple users, one for each library they manage.
17:13 jcamins I was still thinking about bibliographic records.
17:13 Oliver_Spain only for his own group
17:13 Oliver_Spain yes items for a group
17:13 jcamins Oliver_Spain: sorry, I got confused.
17:13 jcamins Oliver_Spain: wait, you said items that last time.
17:12 Oliver_Spain ok thanks a lot
17:12 jcamins Oliver_Spain: it can be, yes.
17:11 Oliver_Spain :(
17:11 Oliver_Spain with diferent levels
17:11 Oliver_Spain it's complicate configure koha to consortium
17:11 jcamins You can't have it both ways.
17:10 jcamins No.
17:10 Oliver_Spain and its posible define that one librarian can edit items of group of libraries (and only for this group)?
17:08 Oliver_Spain humm...
17:08 wahanui Packages is probably at http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Debian
17:08 jcamins Packages?
17:08 jcamins Packages make that easy.
17:08 jcamins Oliver_Spain: yes, that's the way it's supposed to work. If you want catalogs completely separate, you should set up a separate catalog for each library.
17:07 Oliver_Spain :S
17:07 Oliver_Spain the problem is that staff patron (with permiss to do it) can edit bibliogrpahic records catalog in other library
17:06 Oliver_Spain ok
17:05 kf what oleonard phrased much better :)
17:05 * jcamins was thinking "items."
17:05 jcamins oleonard: oh, you're right. I missed that detail.
17:05 kf do it...
17:05 kf Oliver_Spain: you can't to id for bibliographic records, only for items
17:05 oleonard ...as far as I know
17:05 oleonard Oliver_Spain: It should be the case that each staff member can only edit *items* from their branch, but bibliographic records are not tied to a specific branch
17:05 Oliver_Spain thanks
17:04 jcamins I don't know anything about IndependentBranches, sorry. Someone else might, though.
17:04 Oliver_Spain and i don't know how do it
17:04 Oliver_Spain but i have problems because i want that each staff patron only can edit the bibliographic records of his own libraries
17:03 Oliver_Spain configure my koha like independet branches
17:03 Oliver_Spain and i read it
17:03 Oliver_Spain yes i have the manual
17:02 jcamins ^^ that's the manual, which is a good first step
17:02 Oliver_Spain ok thanks
17:02 wahanui manual is at http://www.koha-community.org/documentation
17:02 jcamins manual?
17:02 jcamins Oliver_Spain: wahanui is a bot. I have no idea where that response came from.
17:02 wahanui Oliver_Spain: Sales staff sold a product we don't offer.
17:02 Oliver_Spain excuse me for my english xDD
17:01 Oliver_Spain someone know any documentation about?
17:01 Oliver_Spain i need help with koha configurate for library consortium
17:00 Oliver_Spain hi
16:26 jenkins_koha Starting build #823 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #773 2 mo 10 days ago)
16:25 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 8028 - Followup <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=04e95e11d763f82c56e114a3cf48ae6f91488065> / Bug 8028 - Make table collapsing on parcel.pl sticky - Hide link for 5 or fewer items. <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=5a104d6e6a9b539fc6aee8356371526b0b740c69> / Bug 8028 - Make table collapsing on parcel.pl sticky <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git
16:21 jcamins But rebasing that one has been a great challenge, and it's usable as it is now, if you disable the quotes.
16:21 * jcamins has custom CSS for the QotD to make it more unobtrusive, and it worked fine.
16:20 jcamins paul_p: or to change the display.
16:20 paul_p jcamins yes, it probably require a tiny follow-up to hide QOTD
16:20 jcamins It's very cool.
16:20 jcamins Yup.
16:20 maximep I didn't know there was a qotd feature :S
16:20 jcamins paul_p: perhaps add a note that QotD doesn't look so good with the new theme, and make maximep provide a follow-up? ;)
16:20 maximep cya
16:19 oleonard Bye paul_p
16:19 paul_p see you tomorrow
16:19 paul_p OK, time to go back home for me, I promized my wife to come back early, and it's already 6:20 PM here
16:19 paul_p jcamins & maximep = it's related to Quote Of The day
16:17 jcamins paul_p: you can change the title.
16:17 maximep *add
16:17 maximep or even ccsr.css and ass it directly at the same place as we added mobile
16:16 paul_p (there's a patch for that, but not accepted by bugzilla community :(((( =
16:16 maximep well now that it's a different theme, it should be alright to move everything in opac.css
16:16 jcamins paul_p: perhaps it was just on IRC.
16:16 * paul_p dreams that it's possible to edit description in bugzilla ...
16:16 paul_p jcamins = I read all the comments, should have missed that
16:15 jcamins paul_p: agreed. I said that in my slightly-less-grouchy response, I think.
16:15 paul_p (and there is some glitches for me)
16:15 paul_p maximep = works much better. although I feel it should be documented & maybe improved.
16:15 jcamins Somewhere at the beginning of the bug is a grouchy comment from me that it looked hideous and could you please send the patch with your changes. ;)
16:15 maximep a bit weird that I did it this way, but I didn't know better at that time hehe
16:15 jcamins I did.
16:15 jcamins Yes.
16:15 jcamins Oh.
16:14 jcamins Did I know about colors.css?
16:14 maximep you have to
16:14 paul_p hi maximep nope.
16:13 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8597 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, fcapovilla, Failed QA , New theme for the OPAC with a mobile view
16:13 maximep paul_p: do you have colors.css in opaccolorstylesheet ? (in reply to bug 8597)
16:07 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5911 enhancement, P3, ---, srdjan, Pushed to Master , Transport Cost Matrix of transporting an item between branches
16:07 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8251 critical, P1 - high, ---, colin.campbell, Pushed to Master , Patrons are systematically debarred at checkin
16:07 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8496 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , show local cover images on lists view in opac
16:07 jenkins_koha * Paul Poulain: Bug 5911 follow-up DBREv number
16:07 jenkins_koha * colin.campbell: Bug 8251 Do not try to debar patrons if returns are not overdue
16:07 jenkins_koha * oleonard: Bug 8496 - show local cover images on lists view in opac
16:07 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #822: STILL UNSTABLE in 1 hr 5 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/822/
15:55 Oak hello oleonard :)
15:55 Oak can anyone answer these? http://lists.katipo.co.nz/public/koha/2010-March/022881.html
15:54 oleonard Hi Oak
15:54 Oak Ahoy me hearties
15:51 * McCloud[A] is now away - Reason : Auto-Away after 30 minutes
15:50 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=2720 enhancement, P3, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Overdues which debar automatically should undebar automatically when returned
15:50 oleonard Ugh, my brain is tired of thinking about Bug 2720
15:28 jcamins oleonard: the new breakages are due to updatedatabase not having been run.
15:28 kf I think best would be not pushing patches that break it, woud force people to fix before it happens
15:26 oleonard Is there some ambiguity in what should be done and by whom when a Jenkins test fails?
15:12 mtompset Good night, #koha.
15:07 reiveune bye
15:03 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 5911 follow-up DBREv number <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=699e2955ff5a9e585df1870191977be358e576a3> / Merge remote-tracking branch 'origin/new/bug_8251' <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=374b6f4b9f33a776d04cdaa696b40e8e033dda32> / Bug 8251 Do not try to debar patrons if returns are not overdue <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff
15:02 jenkins_koha Starting build #822 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #773 2 mo 9 days ago)
15:01 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8708 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , RSS feed for new comments is broken
15:01 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5911 enhancement, P3, ---, srdjan, Pushed to Master , Transport Cost Matrix of transporting an item between branches
15:01 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8412 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, nengard, Pushed to Master , add color icon set
15:01 jenkins_koha * oleonard: Bug 8708 [Revised] RSS feed for new comments is broken
15:01 jenkins_koha * Paul Poulain: Bug 5911 follow-up DBRev number
15:01 jenkins_koha * srdjan: bug_5911: Transport Cost Matrix
15:01 jenkins_koha * nengard: Bug 8412: add color icon set
15:01 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #821: STILL UNSTABLE in 1 hr 5 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/821/
14:57 wizzyrea yuck
14:57 wizzyrea ohhhhh
14:56 paul_p wizzyrea = it's not related to Koha. It's related to our contract with them (a contract where we're sub-contractors. The library don't understand that some things are unknown by us and must be managed by the other contractor). In this project, we've Koha + another tool, and the problem is in the other tool...
14:55 paul_p kf = the problem is that this customer is also speaking french. I should try english... that could be fun...
14:54 paul_p SJeffery = I know, and we couldn't live without customers. But there are a few customers, that, frankly, we would not complain to loose... (fortunately, that's only 1 or 2 on 50+ ...)
14:53 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5911 enhancement, P3, ---, srdjan, Pushed to Master , Transport Cost Matrix of transporting an item between branches
14:53 paul_p bug 5911
14:49 * wizzyrea wonders what paul was trying to explain
14:41 kf maybe the problem was that paul was speaking french *hides*
14:40 kf like everywhere else
14:40 kf so you get all the variety of life :)
14:39 bag good morning
14:39 kf customers are human
14:39 SJeffery Hey, some of us ARE customers :)
14:38 alex_a not fun
14:38 alex_a mmh yes
14:37 paul_p alex_a = not sure for the invoice...
14:37 alex_a It would be fun :D
14:37 alex_a paul_p: be careful, he may be there :p
14:35 mtompset Reminds me of at least one person on the mailing list. ;)
14:34 * paul_p just spend 40 mn on phone with one of them, trying to explain things for the 2000th time, and I feel he still misunderstand (if he understand something)
14:34 kf heh
14:34 paul_p kf = some are demanding, that's true. But some are really hopeless, and that's totally different
14:33 kf paul_p: demanding? :)
14:32 alex_a :D
14:32 alex_a paul_p: useless ?
14:31 paul_p (fortunately, that's only a very few of them...)
14:31 paul_p there are customers that are really ... which word should I use ...hopeless ?
14:12 kf hmpf no drojf
13:56 jenkins_koha Starting build #821 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #773 2 mo 9 days ago)
13:51 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 8708 [Revised] RSS feed for new comments is broken <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=784c6c0a8be47fc7dc9c91ca3cbce1b630edec55> / Bug 5911 follow-up DBRev number <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=78d8f9895c9fda109715019325bb909d8bcf8587> / bug_5911: Transport Cost Matrix <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=86c2c4626d4f60b70531bd0ab
13:47 mtompset Do we have any documentation on general networking setup for Koha?
13:40 mtompset It missed the = NOW() case. ;)
13:40 oleonard I don't understand what you mean mtompset
13:39 mtompset You'll have to be pretty accurate to get that split-second timing. ;)
13:39 oleonard I guess (users of Fine in Days) does not intersect with (users of SIP)
13:38 oleonard Hah, and SIP thinks you're debarred even if your debarred date < NOW().
13:35 oleonard I guess it stays? CheckBorrowerDebarred queries for debarred > NOW()
13:32 oleonard So when is the suspension lifted? Or does the expired date stay in borrowers.debarred but is ignored?
13:32 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8089 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, ASSIGNED , Use Koha::Cache everywhere
13:32 jenkins_koha * Paul Poulain: Revert "Bug 8089: Use Koha::Cache for all caching"
13:32 jenkins_koha * Paul Poulain: Revert "Bug 8089: Cache sysprefs using Koha::Cache"
13:32 jenkins_koha * Paul Poulain: Revert "Bug 8089: Correct cache timeout to 1000"
13:32 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #820: STILL UNSTABLE in 1 hr 5 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/820/
13:30 oleonard Ah, no. The suspension is added when the item is returned.
13:19 oleonard If I have overdues which should trigger a fine in days, the nightly overdues process finds them and sets my borrowers.debarred to a date?
13:18 oleonard Is there anyone around who can help explain how "fine in days" works in practice?
13:12 oleonard khall around?
13:10 * jcamins is pleased to report that the test on bug 8300 now works with UNIMARC *and* MARC21. :)
13:10 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=2060 enhancement, P3, ---, jcamins, Passed QA , Ability to import Authorities from Staff Client
13:10 jcamins *bug 2060
13:10 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=2600 critical, P3, ---, oleonard, RESOLVED FIXED, HTML tags in titles not escaped in many places
13:10 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8300 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Needs Signoff , Koha should have mechanized testing suite
13:10 jcamins paul_p: just FYI, the patch on bug 8300 provides a mechanized test of the functionality provided by bug 2600.
12:53 paul_p thanks, will test & push asap
12:53 paul_p oleonard++
12:49 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7500 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Passed QA , Use CSS Sprites for faster page loading
12:49 oleonard paul_p: Revision to Bug 7500 (social networks) submitted, rebased and redundant images removed
12:45 tcohen hi mtompset
12:44 mtompset Greetings, tcohen
12:43 tcohen ih oKha
12:30 mtompset Greetings, oleonard.
12:26 jenkins_koha Starting build #820 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #773 2 mo 9 days ago)
12:24 oleonard Hi #koha
12:22 mtompset and a git pull is not sufficient to update it with changes in those files.
12:22 mtompset because the koha-dev directory is outside the git repo.
12:21 mtompset That makes sense.
12:20 jcamins To update your Zebra configuration.
12:20 jcamins (there are actually exceptions to that rule, but we're not going into them)
12:20 mtompset Why?
12:20 jcamins You always have to run Makefile.PL, make, and make install for git.
12:20 jcamins For git.
12:20 jcamins Not for packages.
12:19 mtompset How?
12:19 mtompset Even for packages?
12:19 jcamins mtompset: no, always.
12:18 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Merge remote-tracking branch 'origin/new/bug_8089' <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=da262047be427fc0c15f16ca602c3c9d7f8bee47> / Revert "Bug 8089: Use Koha::Cache for all caching" <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=8449b14dcb66c7f4e76794daee21342a28ad9598> / Revert "Bug 8089: Cache sysprefs using Koha::Cache" <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=com
12:18 mtompset for a tarball, yes.
12:16 mtompset Only if you answered standard off a git.
12:15 mtompset for the git?
12:15 jcamins You have to rerun the Makefile and make install.
12:15 jcamins mtompset: no, that is not correct.
12:14 mtompset And a git/dev install is just a git pull away from upgrading.
12:14 mtompset Oops... I mean packages.
12:13 mtompset It's just a sudo apt-get update;sudo apt-get upgrade
12:12 mtompset Upgrade instructions don't make sense in terms of a git/dev install, right?
12:11 mtompset You're right... I was being overly cautious.
12:11 jcamins Right.
12:10 mtompset But rebuild_zebra should be run as koha, right?
12:09 jcamins mtompset: the other scripts don't have to be run by the same user.
12:08 mtompset Is this better? su -c "misc/migration_tools/rebuild_zebra.pl -b -a -r -v" koha
12:08 mtompset Which means the person is not the user doing the normal zebra indexing.
12:07 mtompset It suggests running the misc/maintenance... and misc/migration_tools from the build directory.
12:07 mtompset This Upgrade Instruction section bugs me...
12:06 mtompset Okay, I've been hacking on these install instructions all day... almost there.
11:59 kf on phone :)
11:59 * kf waves
11:56 jcamins mtompset: yeah, SQLHelper does things like that.
11:56 mtompset greetings, kf jcamins paul_p
11:55 mtompset Wow... that's a killer query!
11:54 * mtompset smirks, "Wrong repo."
11:54 jcamins Hm. Missing '--' in the OPAC authority viewer.
11:53 wahanui morning is a state of mind. or whenever the cat wants breakfast.
11:53 jcamins Morning!
11:52 paul_p not sure rangi would agree :D :D
11:52 jcamins It's morning!!!!
11:52 jcamins paul_p: I refuse to acknowledge the approaching of afternoon.
11:52 paul_p (and, it's no more morning here ;-) )
11:52 jcamins :)
11:52 paul_p ok, revert in a few minuts (jus writing a urgent mail, then back to pushing for the rest of the day)
11:51 jcamins Yeah, revert.
11:51 jcamins Okay.
11:51 paul_p jcamins = I stopped it !
11:51 jcamins I did before testing the follow-up.
11:51 jcamins paul_p: wait, did you restart memcached?
11:50 jcamins I had meant to change that bug back to ASSIGNED instead of "Needs Signoff" anyway, because dpavlin said he'd redo caching to be even better. :)
11:49 jcamins paul_p: in that case I'd just go ahead and do that.
11:49 paul_p jcamins = I try to edit the surname
11:49 paul_p jcamins = when reverting the 3 patches, everything is OK again
11:48 jcamins I changed name and phone number.
11:48 jcamins Maybe that makes a difference.
11:47 jcamins What specifically are you trying to edit in the borrower?
11:46 pastebot "jcamins" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "paul_p: show create table borrowers" (81 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/170
11:45 paul_p (sounds correct)
11:45 paul_p ) ENGINE=InnoDB AUTO_INCREMENT=7856 DEFAULT CHARSET=utf8 |
11:45 paul_p CONSTRAINT `borrowers_ibfk_2` FOREIGN KEY (`branchcode`) REFERENCES `branches` (`branchcode`)
11:45 paul_p CONSTRAINT `borrowers_ibfk_1` FOREIGN KEY (`categorycode`) REFERENCES `categories` (`categorycode`),
11:45 paul_p KEY `guarantorid` (`guarantorid`),
11:45 paul_p KEY `userid` (`userid`),
11:45 paul_p KEY `branchcode` (`branchcode`),
11:45 paul_p KEY `categorycode` (`categorycode`),
11:45 paul_p UNIQUE KEY `cardnumber` (`cardnumber`),
11:45 paul_p PRIMARY KEY (`borrowernumber`),
11:45 paul_p mine says: ..., `privacy` int(11) NOT NULL DEFAULT '1',
11:45 paul_p jcamins = show create table borrowers says what ?
11:44 jcamins It does for me...
11:44 paul_p GetPrimaryKeys did not return anything
11:44 jcamins paul_p: that query is not built on my system.
11:44 paul_p WHERE =? is the culprit
11:44 paul_p WHERE =?
11:44 kf oups
11:44 paul_p , borrowers.phonepro = ? , borrowers.emailpro = ?
11:44 paul_p orrowers.city = ? , borrowers.B_phone = ? , borrowers.fax = ? , borrowers.altcontactphone = ? , borrowers.debarredcomment = ? , borrowers.country = ? , borrowers.sort1 = ? , borrowers.dateenrolled = ? , borrowers.altcontactstate = ? , borrowers.altcontactaddress1 = ? , borrowers.sex = ? , borrowers.zipcode = ? , borrowers.phone = ? , borrowers.address2 = ? , borrowers.B_city = ? , borrowers.borrowernotes = ? , borrowers.dateexpiry = ? , borrowers.sort2 = ?
11:44 paul_p .borrowernumber = ? , borrowers.streetnumber = ? , borrowers.branchcode = ? , borrowers.lost = ? , borrowers.surname = ? , borrowers.cardnumber = ? , borrowers.streettype = ? , borrowers.altcontactaddress3 = ? , borrowers.title = ? , borrowers.altcontactsurname = ? , borrowers.altcontactzipcode = ? , borrowers.opacnote = ? , borrowers.altcontactfirstname = ? , borrowers.userid = ? , borrowers.B_zipcode = ? , borrowers.B_email = ? , borrowers.mobile = ? , b
11:44 paul_p SET borrowers.altcontactcountry = ? , borrowers.firstname = ? , borrowers.gonenoaddress = ? , borrowers.categorycode = ? , borrowers.othernames = ? , borrowers.B_address = ? , borrowers.contactnote = ? , borrowers.state = ? , borrowers.dateofbirth = ? , borrowers.altcontactaddress2 = ? , borrowers.email = ? , borrowers.debarred = ? , borrowers.B_state = ? , borrowers.B_country = ? , borrowers.B_address2 = ? , borrowers.address = ? , borrowers
11:44 paul_p jcamins = the query that is built is = UPDATE borrowers
11:42 jcamins You could simply revert 8089. It's not a terribly important patch, and dpavlin is planning to do a much more comprehensive job of it.
11:42 jcamins paul_p: hm. With the follow-up it works for me.
11:42 paul_p jcamins = well, i've applied the patch/follow-up, and it still does not work for me
11:41 jcamins kf: yes.
11:41 kf jcamins: so all ok now?
11:41 kf hi #koha
11:41 jcamins The follow-up on bug 8089.
11:40 paul_p jcamins = which patch ?
11:40 jcamins There is a signed off patch which fixes this problem.
11:40 jcamins No, of course it doesn't work. That's what the patch is for.
11:40 paul_p probably a new BLO :-\
11:40 paul_p I have it
11:40 paul_p joubu just tested, and he has the problem
11:40 paul_p jcamins = could you try to modify a patron (withou bug 8089 applied). Does it work for you ?
11:40 jcamins Yeah, the error you got doesn't relate to that patch.
11:40 paul_p (morning ended here ;-) )
11:39 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8089 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Signed Off , Use Koha::Cache everywhere
11:39 * paul_p investigating bug 8089 ...
11:39 jcamins Also, good morning. :)
11:39 paul_p hi #koha
11:39 jcamins paul_p: I just noticed a typo in the update for 3.09.00.031. It has extra quote marks. Do you want a patch?
11:29 huginn jcamins_away: The operation succeeded.
11:29 jcamins_away @later tell kf Never mind. Spoke too soon. I was in the wrong repo.
11:18 huginn jcamins_away: The operation succeeded.
11:18 jcamins_away @later tell kf Could you please rebase 8523 against master? Your squashed patch won't apply for me.
10:13 mtompset_away Anyone familiar with the use of rebuild_zebra_sliced?
09:26 rajes hi there anyone can assist
09:20 rajes the system shows ( Software error: Tag "0" is not a valid tag. at/backup/vhost/homelibrary/lib/C4/Biblio.pm line 2265 ) pls guide how to solve this. tq
09:18 UBPL1 thanks.
09:18 UBPL1 no problem
09:17 rajes hi! I'm still in the learning curve. Kindly please assist me.
09:17 mtompset No, sorry.
09:17 UBPL1 okay, can you send guide via email to me.
09:16 mtompset It's the end of my day, and I'm exhausted.
09:14 mtompset Sorry... I can't... There's too much room for messing up.
09:14 UBPL1 okay
09:14 mtompset Did you install from packages?
09:13 mtompset mysql -u <user> -p
09:13 mtompset Do you know how to start MySQL?
09:10 UBPL1 if you write help, i will try it
09:10 UBPL1 you can see web from http://koha.pl.ub.gov.mn
09:10 UBPL1 please...
09:08 mtompset Otherwise, I would tell you the MySQL UPDATE statement expressly.
09:08 mtompset UBPL1, I don't have Mongolian installed, so I don't know the lang and subtag values it is.
09:06 mtompset It will still be 1TB?
09:05 mtompset So if I grow the DB to 1TB, and then delete all records.
09:05 mtompset Oh.
09:05 eythian mtompset: if you don't have that, your database will never get smaller on disk
09:04 eythian mtompset: no they don't
09:04 UBPL1 yes 'Mon' to the Mongolian.
09:02 mtompset what is the advantage of innodb_file_per_table?
08:55 mtompset Package installs do the inno db stuff, right?
08:55 mtompset Oops.. commentary above.
08:54 mtompset My commentary about, UBPL, UBPL1, was intended as an indirect answer and explanation. Sorry for being unclear.
08:52 mtompset That's why I link to manuals in that section.
08:51 eythian (though, I hate it when people just dump a config in with no explanation)
08:51 mtompset UBPL, UBPL1: if you can browse language_descriptions you can change the description from 'Mon' to the Mongolian.
08:51 eythian http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Koha_Tuning_Guide
08:50 mtompset okay... What innodb thing?
08:50 UBPL1 any help for my question.
08:50 wahanui yeah that is fine as it is
08:50 eythian yeah that
08:50 eythian innodb_file_per_table
08:49 rangi file per table
08:49 eythian innodb thing
08:49 eythian err
08:49 eythian mtompset: it is missing the innodb
08:48 mtompset oh? could you tell me then if http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Koha_on_Ubuntu#MySQL is way off then?
08:44 rangi not me, i dont have any of those
08:43 mtompset rangi: I was wondering about the my.cnf modifications that you and someone else were discussing the other day. They had "default-character-set=utf8" in the client and mysql sections. Does that force the clients to behave as utf-8?
08:38 mtompset Which explains lang='fr' and subtab='en' has a description of Anglais. It's French for English.
08:37 mtompset So lang='en' means I have English selected and subtag='en' means I'm displaying English as the language, right?
08:35 rangi yep
08:35 mtompset I'm looking at 3.6.3, so the tables might be different. Do you mean language_descriptions?
08:32 UBPL1 i think it will be change
08:31 rangi its actually the languages table in the db
08:31 mtompset Sounds like a po file question, which I can't answer. :(
08:27 UBPL1 How can i change mon to mongolian word ?
08:26 UBPL1 i have two language for OPAC and STAFF interface. ( Looks like: Language : English : mon )
08:25 mtompset eythian: Yes, interesting read.
08:23 UBPL1 hey guys. one more question. please...
08:21 UBPL1 thanks again. it works. i used help from wiki-koha
08:21 mtompset night, night, bag. ;)
08:19 UBPL1 what is command multi opac interface for koha ?
08:18 eythian http://lesswrong.com/lw/c1/wellkept_gardens_die_by_pacifism/ <-- interesting read
08:18 bag alright night night :)
08:15 mtompset You're most welcome.
08:15 mtompset That's why I asked about limiting who can edit items to just the new person.
08:15 UBPL1 thanks MTOMPSET.
08:14 mtompset That's why rangi said there were two ways of doing it.
08:14 UBPL1 i see. I will try it later
08:14 rangi yes
08:13 UBPL1 independentbranches on, only superlibrarian can be to edit_items permission ?
08:13 mtompset They get locked into their branch.
08:13 mtompset No.
08:12 UBPL1 independentbranches on, can anyone with edit_items permissions ?
08:12 UBPL1 i see
08:10 rangi yes, if you have turned independentbranches off, anyone with edit_items permissions can do that
08:10 UBPL1 can i make one person to make multiple loations for items
08:08 * mtompset nods, "I can accept that. :)"
08:07 rangi mtompset: only if it worked, and it sounds like it didnt
08:06 mtompset If there are multiple people with edit-item permissions, wouldn't it make more sense to do the super librarian method, so as to prevent multiple people from potentially affecting multiple locations?
08:06 UBPL1 May I missing for superlibrarian - permission
08:06 UBPL1 i tried to give superlibrarian for cataloger. but it was not worked. that is why I used Administation section.
08:01 rangi yep, you could also try turning that back to prevent, and make the user a superlibrarian and see if that works too
07:59 UBPL1 it works by administration section
07:59 UBPL1 sorry my browser was down.
07:59 UBPL1 hi again
07:58 rangi yep
07:58 mtompset which the default is ~/koha-dev.
07:58 rangi as long as you chose a path you have rights to
07:58 rangi make install will suffice
07:57 mtompset Hmmm... quick question... does a git installation require "sudo make install"? or will a "make install" suffice?
07:47 rangi i still want to visit your library one day
07:47 rangi good to have you back
07:47 rangi ah now i remember :)
07:46 cait wb :)
07:46 UBPL do you remember, my former name is Cybermon for here.
07:46 UBPL Ulaanbaatar Public Library, Ulaanbaatar, Mongolia.
07:46 rangi Something Something Public Library ?
07:45 rangi where are you from?
07:45 UBPL thanks. i trying to find it
07:45 rangi so 2 ways of doing it, depending on what you want
07:45 rangi you can make that user a superlibrarian instead
07:44 rangi if you still want branches to work independently but allow the user to edit
07:44 rangi to don't prevent
07:44 rangi then switch IndependantBranches
07:44 rangi admin
07:44 UBPL what is next ?
07:43 UBPL next
07:43 rangi in systempreferences
07:43 UBPL how ?
07:43 rangi you will need to switch that off
07:42 UBPL yes OTHER branch library
07:42 rangi do you have independent branches on?
07:42 UBPL could not see other libraries from list for each section of current and permanent location ?
07:42 rangi you pick the home location in the items screen
07:42 mtompset oh, for OTHER branch library.
07:42 rangi shouldnt need one
07:41 mtompset As long as they have a library set, correct?
07:41 rangi edit_items should do it
07:41 mtompset (not directly related to your question)
07:41 UBPL koha 3.8.2
07:40 mtompset Out of curiousity, which version of koha are you using?
07:39 UBPL how can I give permission to cataloger for item's current location ? Cataloger would like to add items for other branch library ?
07:35 UBPL hi Rangi.
07:35 rangi hi UBPL
07:34 mtompset This is when I wish I had my dream computer, so I could test more things in parallel.
07:16 wahanui eythian is a good influence or located somewhere.
07:16 mtompset eythian?
07:14 bag knows that!
07:13 wahanui DeM KraZy NutZ!!
07:13 bag mtj?
07:13 mtompset no, wahanui.
07:12 wahanui hmmm... eythian is in NZ. ;) or a good influence
07:12 mtompset eythian?
07:10 mtompset Silly bot.
07:10 wahanui wish i knew, mtompset
07:10 mtompset wahanui: eythian knows where eythian is. Listen to eythian.
07:06 wahanui ...but eythian is in NZ. ;) or a good influence...
07:06 eythian wahanui: eythian is not in NZ right now
07:06 eythian hi there
07:05 wahanui eythian is in NZ. ;) or a good influence
07:05 bag heya eythian
07:03 eythian morning
07:03 mtompset Greetings, eythian.
06:55 mtompset (and hiding the tarball instructions in some distant corner)
06:55 mtompset Anyways... back to edit'ing... I'm almost happy with my wall of text which will soon come tumbling down into well organized pieces.
06:54 mtompset How sarcastic wit is perceived is different to everyone. I know you didn't mean to be mean, but a third party may not have.
06:53 mbalmer we have been polite
06:53 mtompset But we should aim to be polite to everyone, even trolls (malicious or otherwise).
06:52 mtompset true enough, he admitted to knowing the difference between koha.org and koha-community.org.
06:51 mbalmer teaching trolls != picking on newbies
06:51 mtompset Wasn't trying to pick on newbies.
06:50 mtompset The link doesn't directly go to that text.
06:44 mbalmer salut marseille!
06:44 rangi Picking on newbies may be fun, but it's not cool
06:44 reiveune hello
06:43 rangi Someone commented it's liblime site, ...
06:42 rangi He/she did share the link
06:40 mtompset Rather than flood the channel with cut and paste from a link, wouldn't it make more sense to just share the link? A lot less spammy.
06:37 mtompset mbalmer++ # love the sarcastic wit.
06:36 mib_0ralv0 hehe
06:36 mbalmer good idea. I shall do the same with the local news from the local newspaperâ€¦..
06:35 mib_0ralv0 ;)
06:35 mib_0ralv0 it will be in the irc logs
06:35 mib_0ralv0 postted just incase i have to search again for it
06:35 mib_0ralv0 no i just got those from a link
06:35 mtompset No thank you.
06:35 mib_0ralv0 5. Open Koha and import this file. It will go to biblio basket. 6. From the cataloguing interface, you can bring each record into ur MARC editor of Koha. 7. In case of bulk import, use the file under misc folder under koha
06:35 mbalmer dou want to read us the winisys manual here?
06:34 mib_0ralv0 in work folder under c:\winisis. 3. Download MarcEdit, another free MARC editor availavle freely. 4. Open MARC tool, select CDS/ISIS conversion, Give file name. The iso file will be converted into MARC 21 format and will be saved as .mrc.
06:34 mtompset If you can export MARC 21 format files, you can stage imports into Koha.
06:33 mib_0ralv0 1. Develop your bibliographic data in winisis by following a standrad data format (CCF or MARC 21). If u r following MARC 21, possibly ISISMARC (available freely) is a better option. 2. After data entry work, export the databse as iso file. You can do it through winisis also, even if u r using isismarc. Go to file menu, select export. the file will be saved
06:33 mib_0ralv0 but here i'll make amends
06:33 mtompset It's not evil. Just trying to make sure you understand there is a difference.
06:32 mib_0ralv0 lol
06:32 mib_0ralv0 sorry knew it was a evil paste
06:31 mtompset www.koha-community.org is ours.
06:31 mtompset That's LibLime's website.
06:31 mtompset That's not our website.
06:30 mtompset Still never heard of it, sorry.
06:30 mib_0ralv0 http://contribs.koha.org/revision_view.php?rid=10
06:30 alex_a bonjour
06:29 mib_0ralv0 winisis
06:27 mtompset I've never heard of winisys, so I can't help.
06:25 mib_0ralv0 is there anyway of migrating winisys to koha?
06:21 mib_0ralv0 now downlding will check it out
06:06 mtompset Hmmm.... does someone have a sample color stylesheet?
06:01 cait http://swop.bsz-bw.de/frontdoor.php?source_opus=1029&la=en
06:01 cait mib_0ralv0: the presentation from eythian was nice too on the topic, showing off some pretty nice opacs
05:58 mib_0ralv0 owen has a nice setup but im just not able to find the time to delve into the code stuffs
05:57 bag no worries - do well on the exam
05:57 cait bag: it will take around 90 mins, maybe can squeeze it in
05:57 cait thx mib_0ralv0
05:56 mib_0ralv0 study well cait hope you get some nice topic that you can ace
05:56 bag well good luck - it's simple so maybe someone else will grab it before she shows to work :)
05:55 bag heh :)
05:55 cait even going into work later
05:55 cait bag: can't do it now -have to finish the online exam for my distance study course this morning
05:55 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7143 trivial, P5 - low, ---, katrin.fischer, Needs Signoff , Bug for tracking changes to the about page
05:55 bag heya cait I got an easy one for you to sign off - I think -bug 7143 (I helped melia write it today) would be great to get it signed-off so I can tell her in the morning :)
05:53 mib_0ralv0 yes i used to view owen stuffs
05:53 mib_0ralv0 keeping it running yes but the shiny part not so much so...they were to have some team with web experience do wrk on it but its not working out it seem...once i heard someone saying the yahoo thingy too restrictive
05:52 bag yup I'm in the past present
05:52 cait bag: oh, you live in the past?
05:52 wahanui owen's blog is http://www.myacpl.org/koha/
05:52 cait owen's blog?
05:52 bag evening from yesterday to you :)
05:52 cait morning bag
05:51 bag heya cait
05:51 cait there is a new mobile theme that will probably be in the next version
05:51 mib_0ralv0 ;) hehe
05:50 mtompset (Making the OPAC shiny, keeping koha running, etc.)
05:49 mtompset Yes, but isn't that your job? ;)
05:49 mib_0ralv0 im thinking something that we could drag an drop some basic stuffs and then lock that display for the users
05:48 mib_0ralv0 true mtompset but the default install for novice has lost some appeal...at least the shine not so much there
05:47 mib_0ralv0 maybe an upgrade that works a bit like igoogle
05:47 mtompset given the ways the OPAC can be tweaked using the syspreferences, it doesn't need much of an upgrade.
05:46 mib_0ralv0 btw love the new staff interface wish the opac could get a similar upgrade
05:46 mtompset Then once that test environment is up and running, do it for production.
05:46 mtompset Though, really... if you have the chance. I'd recommend converting from a tarball install to a packages install. It isn't too hard. Just you don't really want to do it on the same machine.
05:45 mib_0ralv0 need to put a huge dont do somewhere in instructions
05:44 mib_0ralv0 yes it was
05:44 mtompset an installation mess for sure. :)
05:44 cait oh
05:43 mib_0ralv0 and requested it from opac with results
05:43 mtompset he then removed the packages, and was trying to make sure all the other configuration pieces are working still.
05:43 mib_0ralv0 actionlog was of help...got an idea of last addition
05:43 mtompset cait, he installed packages "aptitude install koha-common" on top of a tarball install.
05:43 mib_0ralv0 lol
05:42 mib_0ralv0 just saying thanks
05:42 cait hi Amit_Gupta
05:42 cait mib_0ralv0: I probably shouldn't ask this while eating breakfast, but what is the problem?
05:42 Amit_Gupta heya cait
05:39 cait hi fredericd
05:38 mib_0ralv0 ok thx cait
05:38 mtompset Bonjour, fredericd. :)
05:37 fredericd morning
05:36 mib_0ralv0 ok
05:35 * mtompset points at cait, "Expert," and grins.
05:34 cait but I am not sure that will help you with your problem
05:32 cait action_logs or statistics log
05:32 mib_0ralv0 it even had the transaction date, can anyone point me to which table now has that log?
05:31 mib_0ralv0 it listed what record was added/deleted and by which user, but the current session table doesnt have it listed that way neither can i find that table
05:28 mib_0ralv0 not sure if it was the session table
05:28 mib_0ralv0 i recall sometime last year browsing the koha db and seeing a tble that list the changes sort of like an audit log
05:27 mib_0ralv0 it sure was cait
05:27 mib_0ralv0 they sorting out the power so hopefully wont be anymore such issues
05:27 cait it's most likely an indexing problem
05:26 mib_0ralv0 only to findout that things broke when i was told no items were being shown
05:25 mib_0ralv0 actually its another power failure that caused me to have to do upgrade...had startup issues so i fixed them and got started upgrading what i could during the down time
05:24 mib_0ralv0 cant take no blame this time around ;)
05:24 mtompset installing and uninstalling packages over a source install will not affect your data.
05:23 mib_0ralv0 so i'm just making sure that all is intact
05:23 mib_0ralv0 yes i think it was db corruption
05:23 mib_0ralv0 we would search and it is listed but when selected we get 404 error
05:23 mtompset Okay... perhaps a DB corruption problem. :)
05:22 mib_0ralv0 the power kept going without notice
05:22 mtompset That's most likely a zebra indexing problem.
05:22 mib_0ralv0 last time we lost over 600 records
05:22 mtompset verify data through the user interface.
05:22 mib_0ralv0 not making changes just verifying data
05:19 mtompset mib_0ralv0: You really shouldn't be tinkering with the internals of MySQL for Koha if you aren't sure what you are doing.
05:18 cait biblionumber is ok in items - one record can have more than one item
05:17 mib_0ralv0 itemnuber seem not to have duplicates though
05:16 mtompset mtj, mib_0ralv0 uninstalled the packages.
05:16 mib_0ralv0 in items im seeing duplications in `biblionumber' should this be?
05:16 mtompset I'm running through the document right now trying to get a consistent order for all three methods of installation.
05:15 mtj *dont* use rebuild_zebra.pl script
05:15 mtj so, when running koha from the packagesâ€¦ use koha-rebuild-zebra
05:14 mtompset Thanks for the suggestion. I'll look at that.
05:13 wajasu mtompset: is there anything int he Install about those permissions for (/var/... etc) ?
05:12 mib_0ralv0 i think i had done a crontab for that
05:12 mtompset (since you probably have a 'koha' user)
05:12 mib_0ralv0 thanks yall, is there anyway to see the full catalogue from the staff interface
05:12 mtompset and the rebuild_zebra needs to be run as 'koha', otherwise you run into permissions hell.
05:11 wajasu great!
05:11 mib_0ralv0 seem the restart fixed it
05:07 bag also ps -ef | grep zebra - so you definitely know zebra is running
05:07 mib_0ralv0 those servers take mighty long time to go through post and scsi crop
05:07 mib_0ralv0 im gonna try the rebuild again as soon as things get back up
05:06 bag yup also what wajasu is saying :)
05:06 mib_0ralv0 yes i had made sure to start it
05:05 bag sorry I meant is zebraserver running?
05:05 wajasu when you do rebuild-aebra use -v and you might get feedback to see total exported for the index. also be shure to have the KOHA_CONF and PERL5LIB correct when you run zebrasrv
05:05 mib_0ralv0 no the physical server
05:05 bag zebraserver?
05:04 mib_0ralv0 i've just restarted the server hopng it change something since it hadnt restart before
05:04 mib_0ralv0 but im not sure why they refuse to show up
05:04 bag there you go :)
05:04 mib_0ralv0 my item reporting over 3700 which i dig is round about correct
05:03 wajasu yup
05:03 mtompset max(biblionumber) is a better method.
05:03 bag the record number is incremental - so max(biblionumber) will show it to you
05:03 wajasu in mysql you can do: "show tables;" then "describe <tablename>" you could do "select count(*) from items;" look at the count and use that to select * from items where id=<count>"
05:01 mib_0ralv0 just want to see the last record added/deleted and verify it in items
05:00 mib_0ralv0 which table has the logs *audit log kinda thingy
04:58 * rangi leaves to catch his bus
04:58 rangi items
04:58 mib_0ralv0 could yall say which tables now stores the items?
04:57 mtompset Sorry... I've got to get back to editing.
04:56 mtompset wajasu: mib_0ralv0 already has his tables.
04:56 wajasu if you create a new db and load your database, it will create the tables etc.
04:56 mtompset <browser> http://127.0.1.1:8080/ (that's the default URL)
04:55 mib_0ralv0 how can i force the web installer to run again?
04:55 wajasu mtompset: one thing i did 3 years ago with the instructions, was try to run the tests. i also installed it on archlinux. it took hours. (not many perl modules available in those days)
04:53 wajasu is your db a test copy. you might restore the db from a backup and rerun the webinstaller, etc. just to be sure.
04:52 mib_0ralv0 ok
04:52 mtompset And thank you.. that reminds me of another tweak that I need to make to the instructions.
04:51 mtompset Sorry, as I am not familiar with the results of that script on newer systems, I can't help you.
04:51 mib_0ralv0 i now have a table in my db called import records that seem a little large compare to the others
04:50 mtompset You said you are running the latest from source.
04:50 mtompset I just quoted from the upgrade instructions.
04:49 mib_0ralv0 i started following the upgrade instructions
04:49 mtompset "Koha 3.4.x or later no longer stores items in biblio records. If you are upgrading from a version older than Koha 3.4.x, run the following two commands which can take a long time (several hours) to complete for large databases:"
04:48 mtompset particularly the first one.
04:47 mtompset why did you run those commands?!
04:47 mib_0ralv0 latest
04:47 mtompset what version of koha are you running?
04:47 mib_0ralv0 tried these but second command return some erors misc/maintenance/remove_items_from_biblioitems.pl --run misc/migration_tools/rebuild_zebra.pl -b -r
04:47 wajasu mtompset: when those utf setting are correct for the mysql client, then when i select from the mysql command line, i see the utf8 chars correctly, otherwsie black diamonds. i needed it to debug NFC utf for overdue_notice.
04:47 mtompset You probably need to re-setup your zebra indexing all over again.
04:46 mib_0ralv0 i've since reverted but now i just need to figure how to get back my biblios
04:46 mtompset no, what I'm saying is the [client] and [mysql] tweaks were not in the default instructions that I was following.
04:45 mib_0ralv0 i just did a aptitude install koha-common
04:45 wajasu mtompset: i scoured those from multiple wiki and INSTALLS. that works well for me. i was debugging UTF8 label printing so i wanted to be sure. rangi might suggest the default for mysql is utf8 these days.
04:45 mib_0ralv0 i had my sources.list populated with the repos before
04:44 mib_0ralv0 on ubuntu 12.04
04:44 mtompset wajasu: I was noticing your my.cnf tweaks. I saw someone else using something similar. Is that the recommended way?\
04:43 mtompset which OS, which source, what instructions did you follow?
04:43 mib_0ralv0 how can i get these back?
04:42 mib_0ralv0 but im still not seeing any items in the opac
04:42 wajasu hey cait.
04:42 mib_0ralv0 morning cait
04:42 mib_0ralv0 panic, uninstall then installed from source
04:42 cait morning :)
04:41 mib_0ralv0 then for some reasons my items show showing in search
04:41 mib_0ralv0 i mistakenly updated koha from the repos after i had initially installed from source
04:40 wajasu ask
04:40 mib_0ralv0 here
04:40 mib_0ralv0 i need some real help
04:40 mib_0ralv0 hey guys
04:35 wajasu not that anyone would be interested in it.
04:34 pastebot "wajasu" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "koha VM scripts/fragments showing how to build debian squeeze VM with libvirt and shell script." (716 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/169
04:16 Amit_Gupta heya chris
04:07 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8339 minor, P5 - low, ---, mtompset, Signed Off , div id="login" should be id="login_controls" in header.inc
04:07 mtompset oleonard++ # thanks for the time and patience with bug 8339.
04:07 mtompset Sure, it will help me make sure my instructions are generalized enough. :)
03:58 wajasu i'm going to paste my debian preseed script that i use to build VM from nothing. it has alot of install stuff in it, and might be helpfull.
03:49 mtompset Okay... I'll move that step earlier then. ;)
03:49 wajasu its possible if the perl interpreter falls back to some OS locale for encoding or such. but it may not be an issue if the installer has sufficient unicode/utf8 usage. not really sure.
03:45 mtompset Does anyone know if the locale of one's OS affects the pre-web install building/installing of Koha?
03:37 mtompset Oooo... you said the word "test". Careful, people might love you. ;)
03:35 wajasu i see folks already are working Plack on the site. I was just wondering we could get some url mapping and security framework in place, as all the permissions checking could be tested, etc.
03:32 mtompset Or asking, just in case someone has already evaluated that possibility. -- I haven't. :)
03:31 wajasu os i guess we would be checking out performance of mod_perl, and such. maybe add interceptors for security, etc.
03:29 mtompset Always a good first program. :)
03:28 wajasu just di a hello world!
03:25 mtompset Nice. :)
03:04 * wajasu just messed with cpanfile and carton to install Plack and starman. sweeeet!
02:48 jcamins_away :)
02:47 rangi they have LTFL
02:47 rangi once HLT have finished their move into their new building i might test it with them
02:47 jcamins_away I have not, though I saw the announcement.
02:47 rangi have you played with book psychic jcamins_away ?
02:47 jcamins_away :D
02:47 jcamins_away Yes please!
02:45 rangi lets pour some bloat on our bloat, and add a side of java
02:45 rangi heh
02:43 jcamins_away rangi: I think you'll appreciate this article that just came across my RSS reader: Eclipse editor plugin for MARC. It just feels *right*, somehow, doesn't it?
02:26 jcamins_away eythian++ # for thinking "hey, I bet people will want to add more source functions for converting CSVs to MARC"
01:54 jcamins_away Surprisingly few devs out on that coast.
01:49 rangi good idea
01:45 bag I want to have a regional hackfest day
01:45 bag I can use more dev's close to me
01:45 bag especially if they are on at this time of night (must be close to me :) )
01:44 * bag googles plattcollege
01:44 rangi well he wasnt actually at his system
01:43 bag weird I would like to hear if they figured it out
01:43 rangi usually are
01:43 rangi mibbit
01:43 bag hmmm fly by
01:43 plattcollege thanks for the help
01:43 plattcollege yeah, I checked stage; it is clear
01:42 rangi in case it did stage in the background
01:42 rangi i havent seen it happen but i'd check the apache logs, also check the staged marc page
01:42 plattcollege thx
01:41 plattcollege I did a patron upload and it staged ok but... this shows no errors just a reload
01:39 plattcollege ic
01:39 plattcollege it behaves as if it will begin the upload saying uploading zero percent then reloads the page
01:39 rangi id look at the apache logs
01:38 plattcollege the system is not in front of me
01:38 plattcollege I think
01:38 plattcollege 3.8.4
01:38 rangi if you look at the about page it will tell you the version number
01:38 rangi 3.8. what? 3.8.0 ?
01:38 plattcollege 3.8
01:35 rangi what version of koha?
01:33 plattcollege hello, any idea how I can start troubleshooting this issue: I am trying to upload a .mrc file that I exported from koha. After selecting the file for upload, I click upload it reloads the page without staging anything
00:37 wajasu the comman in a number might be something to strip for an index.
00:37 wajasu it didn't find things unless i put "1,000 ways"
00:37 wajasu you know when i was testing search and fuzzy, i wondered why when i search for 1000 ways
00:33 rangi 14 for august
00:33 rangi joubu wins that
00:33 rangi 3 for september
00:32 rangi 4 for august
00:31 rangi 2 secs ill tell ya
00:30 wajasu math is fun. how about how many times one tested and failedQA. i'm up there.
00:29 rangi http://blog.bigballofwax.co.nz/2012/09/01/signoffs-for-august-2012/
00:28 rangi so you can break your record still have 18 days to go :)
00:28 rangi and 5 in august
00:28 rangi 5 sign off for september from you
00:28 rangi 5 times is enough
00:28 rangi but im not thankfully
00:27 rangi thats what I would look at if was RM
00:27 rangi then any out of the 103 that are bug fixes
00:27 rangi im more focused on the 19 passed QA
00:27 rangi theres only 71 needing signoff
00:27 rangi hmm?
00:26 wajasu 103 signedoff
00:26 wajasu i thought i would put a dent in the 80+ bugs needing signoff in August, but new ones keep appearing. i wonder howmany of the current 103 will make it to 3.10?
00:22 wajasu same here. plenty to do that i enjoy.
00:21 rangi its a good rule and has worked well for the last 16 years
00:21 rangi my rule for my free time, is work on stuff i enjoy, ill work on boring stuff if people pay me
00:20 rangi sms, id leave until someone has money/desire to do them
00:19 rangi the rss isn't done that old way, the current rss feeds work fine, so it can probably be gotten rid of, we don't need cron jobs to generate static rss etc anyway
00:18 wajasu i was thinking about the rss and smsoverdues modules. should they be fixed? or fall to the wayside unitl someone else has a need?
00:15 rangi what exactly is your point? Im failing to see
00:15 wajasu its the need/market then.
00:14 rangi thats not unique
00:14 rangi thats what makes any free software project
00:14 wajasu the community supporting it is what makes it survive/valuable.
00:14 rangi not sure i understand what you mean
00:13 rangi hmm?
00:13 wajasu yes. its rare. but its the community.
00:13 rangi but yes more tests are always good
00:13 rangi 12 years isnt short for software
00:12 rangi you mean continue to make it :)
00:11 wajasu i totally agree that if koha is going to make it in the long run, its got to get more tests. and folks need to run them.
00:11 rangi *nod*
00:09 wajasu he probably should have tested more thoroughly before, and not used a signer to do that work. he did get burned by the switch from YUI js and converted, so its been a long road for him.
00:08 * rangi spent 3 months breaking huge patches into smaller ones to actually get them testable
00:08 rangi big monolithic patches suck
00:08 rangi and often that is a lot easier to QA
00:08 rangi yep
00:07 wajasu i'm leaving it alone. someone else needs to get familiar with it. i think he is trying to help QA to have less to apply. i know if he didn't squash, there would be 8-10 patches.
00:07 rangi but others seem to like squashing
00:06 rangi i much prefer a follow up
00:06 rangi after they have been attached to a bug
00:06 rangi i personally hate squashing patches
00:05 wajasu i agree.
00:05 rangi there is no way that it should be pushed without working for more than english
00:05 rangi well talk to him then :)
00:05 rangi i think that kyle already has fixed the translation stuff
00:05 wajasu he keeps squashing them together.
00:04 rangi but not a new bug
00:04 rangi thats fine
00:04 rangi a second patch maybe
00:01 wajasu i'm getting worn out checking the breadth of the bug. i just want to be able to test just the new stuff as a second bug.
00:00 rangi but the rest, yep that could go separate
00:00 rangi non english speakers aren't second class citizens